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:mfr_omg:
One of the best films I have seen in ages.
Highly recommend seeing it in 3D if you can afford it.
The special effects are mind blowing, never seen anything quite like it.
Didn't mind the story either.
:thumb_yello:
Cant seem to reply to threads atm?
So im going to reply here just once.
The story is fairly predictable. It was better than I expected though.
I have to admit I'm more interested in the FX when I see a film like this.
If you enjoy great special effects it worth checking out on the big screen.
It's better than 2012, though that's not saying much I guess
Soulcrafter
12-17-2009, 11:20 AM
:mfr_omg:
One of the best films I have seen in ages.
Highly recommend seeing it in 3D if you can afford it.
The special effects are mind blowing, never seen anything quite like it.
Didn't mind the story either.
:thumb_yello:
Same as the 2012 flick ? Nice Fx but BLX story? Not worth watching it seems.
Pennelp
12-17-2009, 02:17 PM
Hi new member here.
Yes I saw AVATAR in 3D...it was an absolutele sublime masterpiece. yes the special effects are they best I have ever seen.Nothing compares .I especially luved the msg the film conveyed.(alot could apply to the atrocities taking place here on Earth)..recommend everyone see it....my new fav #1
2012 sucked A**..
Bilko
12-17-2009, 02:25 PM
Thanks guys,
i was in 2 minds whether to shell out and go and see it so i think i'll give it a go now.:original:
Thunderbird
12-17-2009, 02:35 PM
hey folks,
im native and i dont go to see too many movies....
but i am considering taking my daughter to see this movie because of the dynamic between oppressors and indigenous culture.
i would ****** off to no end if i took her and it turned out to be another dances with wolves type ******** where the oppressors win out and "oh the poor natives have to go off hiding" or whatever.
please tell that the blue people win.
i dont mind spoilers so if you could PM me thatd be swell.
Jacqui D
12-17-2009, 02:37 PM
This is out today or tomorrow here i have been waiting to see this one for ages. Sounds very good the story line is very feasible i feel, didn't see the 2012 film i guess i didn't want to get sucked in to the whole scenario not saying it won't happen but and that's a big BUT!
Just want to ask do you have to see this in 3D do all cinemas cater for 3D if not i have a feeling my one will not be viewing it this way.
Swanny
12-17-2009, 07:42 PM
Did you notice the subliminal messaging??? :wink2:
kriya
12-17-2009, 07:48 PM
This is out today or tomorrow here i have been waiting to see this one for ages. Sounds very good the story line is very feasible i feel, didn't see the 2012 film i guess i didn't want to get sucked in to the whole scenario not saying it won't happen but and that's a big BUT!
Just want to ask do you have to see this in 3D do all cinemas cater for 3D if not i have a feeling my one will not be viewing it this way.
Most cinemas' have 3D screenings. Have you got a VUE or Odeon nearby? They'll have it. I think it's best to see it on a huge screen, maybe the IMAX, but they give me motion sickness.
And no it's showing in 2D too.
Will see it at the weekend in 3D.
futureyes
12-17-2009, 09:03 PM
avatar opens here this weekend ... i am eager to go see it ... from all i read and what others have written here the special effects are worth going ...
thanks for the 3d heads up ... that's the route i'll take ...
oh ... and welcome pennelp ... :welcomeani:
:wub2:
Soulcrafter
12-17-2009, 09:09 PM
Looks very plastic fantastic.
The basic message I got was that humans are pretty greedy , selfish and mean. Although some of us can be pleasant to our neighbours when given a chance to get to know them.
I was expecting a very overt green message from the film, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be in that respect.
The message is certainly there, it also has a very Manga flavour to it in regards to the aboriginals connection to their earth through their spirit. This is explained in a convoluted way that I didn't really understand, I have a feeling the James Cameron didn't either.
All said and done the film was entertaining.
The story was not boring and I found the long play time of around 2 hours 40 minutes went by very quickly.
The FX are certainly taken to the next level in this film, the monition capture technology they used has really made a huge leap that adds a great deal of realism to the digital characters, their integration with real world footage is totally seamless, I was completely taken in by the digital characters, they convey an emotion and realism I have never before seen achieved with motion capture data and digital assets. The facial gestures are so closely matched to the actors portrayals it's as if your watching real flesh and blood beings. I certainly connected emotionally with the characters in this film and I did so straight away, that is a huge achievement in regards to this type of film making. Its only ever been done once before and that was with Gollum from LOTR. No surprise its Peter Jacksons WETA digital that achieved this breakthrough for Avatar.
I think the Alien world is incredibly done also, from the florescence that seems to purvey almost everything on the planet, the forest, plants and animals are all amazingly realised.
They truly capture a unique take on what an alien world could be like.
:thumb_yello::mfr_omg:
hey folks,
im native and i dont go to see too many movies....
but i am considering taking my daughter to see this movie because of the dynamic between oppressors and indigenous culture.
i would ****** off to no end if i took her and it turned out to be another dances with wolves type ******** where the oppressors win out and "oh the poor natives have to go off hiding" or whatever.
please tell that the blue people win.
i dont mind spoilers so if you could PM me thatd be swell.
Spoiler alert here folks
Hey Thunderbird I can't figure out how to pm you so I shall just give you a hint.
If your daughter is old enough to deal with a bit of violence, it's not gory or anything but death is not glossed over.
I would take her to see it.
The portrayal of an aboriginal culture in harmony with their planet is treated with what I believe to be a fair amount of respect.
They are not push over's by any means though, so don't expect to be disappointed in that regard. They are warriors indeed!!!
whiterose
12-18-2009, 12:05 AM
We saw Avatar tonight in 2D, and it was visually stunning, so I would think 3D would be even more so.
I found it very moving, and in some ways it made me ashamed to be human. If that's how humans are seen in the rest of the galaxy, I wouldn't be surprised if the aliens shot down anything that left Earth's atmosphere!
Lorien
12-19-2009, 09:09 AM
I just got back from seeing it, and I can honestly say it is one of the best movies I have seen in a long time. The special effects are absolutely stunning.
It filled me with both love, and sadness. Love for the native peoples who live in perfect harmony with their world. And sadness because I envision a greed filled corporation doing the same things to a native species.
viking
12-19-2009, 04:26 PM
Just thought I would bump this along as my thoughts were exactly the same as described in this article...
The film was awesome by the way.
"I can't help but suspect that Anastasia or her consciousness had a hand in the making of Avatar the movie. which is the most expensive film ever made at $230 million dollars.
In a world called Pandora, populated by gigantic blue people who live in close harmony with their environment the humans show up & attempt to desecrate the environment, kill the indigenous peoples, & steal the minerals while all along calling the people they are killing & displacing savages. Where have we heard this story before? How many times has this same story played out here on Earth with various gov't military involved?
I noticed a week before Avatar opened there was a message that came over the AP news wire suggesting that although the special effects were great that the story line was poor. This message appeared day after day until opening. It's obvious to me that it was the dark forces that were attempting to steer people away from one of the greatest movies ever made. The story line is obviously a parallel to how the worlds military has been used by the dark forces & not something they want people to understand, thus they are scared people will learn about this through this movie.
Also, it's apparent that these blue forest people are highly intelligent, spiritually connected, & their environment is gorgeous, which is a whole other aspect to this movie that the dark forces wouldn't want people to understand. It might cause people to attempt to go back to nature to find happiness. These are radical ideas that could lead to the technocratic world losing some of their slaves.
lol :-)
"Anastasia" is the first book in the Ringing Cedar Series. It's based on a real life forest dweller in Siberia that has all kinds of special human abilities by our standards of understanding of what a human is capable of."
M Hazelwood.
viking
Spregovori
12-19-2009, 04:54 PM
Have not seen it yet (waiting for it to become khm accessible)
but I saw the trailer and have only one thing to say:
another movie from the twisted human minds...and yet it is more real than most people think...look in the mirror human animal....see yourself
TheChosen
12-19-2009, 09:28 PM
OMG .. that movie was totally mind blowing.. I am still in shock hours after having seen it from the floods of energies released through that visually perfected piece of art.
This is not even a movie , it has the history , present and future of humanity all packed into a 2 and half hours.
What Matrix did to change consciousness 10 years ago .. Avatar is doing it right now... on a bigger and deeper scale. Only years later, just as with the Matrix.. people will start to compare the details and draw all the parallels with our situation.
This movie should be mandatory viewing .. no exceptions allowed... so so relevant to the current state of humanity.
That you should see it in 3D goes without saying.. save money , drive for 200 km if you have to .. doesn't matter.. its a huge energy upgrade to your consciousness.
Only 2 movies have touched me so deeply before this one... just amazing stuff like this is getting mainstream.. the results will be earthshattering after so many people's subconsious levels are exposed to this (again same as with the Matrix)
I *knew* I just had to see it as soon as possible when I saw the trailer and saw few details that were a dead giveaway this movie was working on a very high level. That it was dubbed in Czech language made me annoyed and I was not going to see it.. but then .. I felt I should bite the bullet language concerned and still go ... and it was well well worth it. I might just as well see it for a second time.
Gevaudan
12-19-2009, 10:21 PM
I just watched it this morning at a local IMAX. Overall, I thought it sent a very positive message to an audience that needs to receive it. The story was quite predicable, but there were hints of esoteric knowledge embedded in the film. One line in particular that stood out was a comment by the antagonist leader that mentioned ingraining a horrible event in the racial memory of his adversaries such that they would be forever afraid of a place that was sacred to them. I'm sure the general audience isn't too familiar with 'racial memories,' so I was happy to see such tidbits thrown into the storyline.
I cannot say that I was completely blown away by the movie, but with all that I (and probably all of us) have studied over the past few years, it will take a lot to open my mind to something that causes complete awe.
G
HENNA
12-20-2009, 06:53 AM
hey folks,
im native and i dont go to see too many movies....
but i am considering taking my daughter to see this movie because of the dynamic between oppressors and indigenous culture.
i would ****** off to no end if i took her and it turned out to be another dances with wolves type ******** where the oppressors win out and "oh the poor natives have to go off hiding" or whatever.
please tell that the blue people win.
i dont mind spoilers so if you could PM me thatd be swell.
This is an awesome movie!! I found this "Cowboy and Indians" story line cliche, BUT OMG, this is a wonderful example of how some of us humans can be so materialistic, cold hearted and naive about the energies of the universe, yet others of us also so willing to change and see the bigger picture.
My theater didn't offer it in 3D, but it still had AMAZING effects. You have to watch this on the big screen, do not wait.
Yes, not all the story line is perfect or all the acting lines....but so what!
This is more than just a movie, this opens so many feelings inside.
Tall, dark and blue....way cool. Take that Edward Cullen!
I felt very small (in so many ways) walking out of this movie.
Anchor
12-20-2009, 10:12 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1236769/Avatar-Its-Dances-With-Smurfs.html
Smurfs?
Are there smurfs in this movie - can someone who has seen it please tell me.
A..
beren
12-20-2009, 11:23 AM
No smurfs.Sorry.
:original:
They are blue but 7 meters high ...
Very interesting film by the way.
Soulcrafter
12-20-2009, 01:59 PM
I've seen the movie also, the bue ones (paladins) and monsters look a lot like some of the world of warcraft charachters.
Spregovori
12-20-2009, 03:52 PM
Just saw an atricle about Lisa Kaltenegger stating that Pandora like moons (rock that can support life) might soon become a reality...something about a new telescope (James Webb Space Telescope) planed to be set in space in 2014, which is to be able to find such objects...
They are practically stating that life is out there....how much disclosure does one need? :)
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~lkaltenegger/ (http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/%7Elkaltenegger/)
Soulcrafter
12-21-2009, 01:21 PM
The message of the movie was quite clear to me.
We have to unite as ONE.
beren
12-21-2009, 01:28 PM
One thing that really stuck the chord is how the corporation is being presented in the movie.
Greedy and lustful.
Yeah they are teaching natives english and rest but they only do that in order so the natives can peacefully go away and let the leeches dig the rock worthy of 20 mil.
Then they go to war against natives with typical BULLSH*T attitude of nowadays -you know who- in this world.
And also that mention of erasing the collective memory ...
I wonder will Cameron be silent afterwards just as brothers Watchowsky after Matrix...
Jacqui D
12-21-2009, 01:48 PM
I'm seeing this tomorrow i can't wait, saw the trailer back in the summer and thought it looked good then.
Apparently there has been a lot of hype on GLP forum there is a discussion relating to how this flick has a subliminal program installed.
It has been said all who have watched it are now picking up sub conscious thoughts from others and the same theme is running through all!
We all know there is a lot of programming going on in these films TV/games etc but i am wondering what they have installed in to this one other than planting the thought that government/military are being played out as the bad guys and a race of peaceful beings are being over run and their home planet taken over Hm! sounds about right then.
This will not stop me from seeing it the effects look stunning i will be watching it in 2D because i think perhaps the 3D will be a little to disorientating for me.
I would be interested if any one has picked up on this subliminal messaging and how it affected you.
Pennelp
12-21-2009, 03:43 PM
hey folks,
im native and i dont go to see too many movies....
but i am considering taking my daughter to see this movie because of the dynamic between oppressors and indigenous culture.
i would ****** off to no end if i took her and it turned out to be another dances with wolves type ******** where the oppressors win out and "oh the poor natives have to go off hiding" or whatever.
please tell that the blue people win.
i dont mind spoilers so if you could PM me thatd be swell.
This film had many msg's to convey.
Love transcends between people and culture
Consciousness. we are all one .Everything is energy .
Respect and love for all things living,our heritage
Depicts the humans going in and thinking they can take over and destroy what they like in the name of $$ . Having no respect for life ,culture, fauna,flora
And many subliminal msg's to.
A Bush quote .The commanding officer states against the poor innocent indigenous tribe 'We will fight terror with terror" (taking the **** out of Bush's quote )
(and yes the indigenous win)
Magnificent film..People were clapping at the end..and people were seriously moved ..
I've been twice and will go a third and fourth time... this film will be forever in my heart..
wolfman
12-21-2009, 03:55 PM
:mfr_omg:
One of the best films I have seen in ages.
Highly recommend seeing it in 3D if you can afford it.
The special effects are mind blowing, never seen anything quite like it.
Didn't mind the story either.
:thumb_yello:
Cant seem to reply to threads atm?
So im going to reply here just once.
The story is fairly predictable. It was better than I expected though.
I have to admit I'm more interested in the FX when I see a film like this.
If you enjoy great special effects it worth checking out on the big screen.
It's better than 2012, though that's not saying much I guess
I just saw it tonight and it was wonderful in 3D. What impress me was the ability to connect to monther nature thru their hair, how tall they were compared to the humans.
The other thing i noticed was the Humans that was doing the destruction of another species because the humans wanted some 'rock'.
This show is worth a 2nd time viewing. :thumb_yello:
ewhite
12-21-2009, 07:48 PM
This show is worth a 2nd time viewing. :thumb_yello:
I second that! I know I will be going back for seconds, and this time I will take my 10 year old. The message contained in the film should be heard and seen by all.
Jacqui D
12-22-2009, 08:30 PM
I actually went to see this today been waiting a long time, what can i say but wow! beautiful film, worth the wait in my eyes.
Left me feeling a distaste for humans i have to say, the scenario of plundering an evolved planet which was one with everything for the humans own benefits left me in awe of this planets species.
Many messages here and the terror word came up they love to slip it in these movie makers.
Explained how the human consciousness can be transferred and how cloning can be achieved a topic which has be discussed here many time on avalon.
I actually saw it in 2D not sure about watching it in 3D i felt the film was a little jumpy at times so the 3D effect could be to much for some.
14 Chakras
12-22-2009, 10:55 PM
See it in IMAX 3D if you can ~ Sweet
I'd say James Cameron's best to date.
Enjoyable ~
Spoiler alert~~~: (don't read if u don't wanna know just a little somethin g about what happens):
Would have been nice if they had come up with a higher solution that war to solve their problems though.
Nice love story etc...
Fun movie.
Hiram
12-22-2009, 11:15 PM
This film was very moving for me. There is really is something special about it, and if you allow yourself to complete let go and be immersed in the world it creates, it changes you!! You come out of the Theatre changed.
I found the same emotions many of you have expressed here after watching it--and even more. I certainly took away a sensation of being fundamentally dissatisfied with our realization of ourselves as a species. We have such a profound potential, and that potential is hanging there right in front of us waiting for us to grab it. Our connections to each other and to the world around us are the most important things to develop. All of the other mess is static...just static to distract and obfuscate your true purpose as a human being!!
The film will be with me for a long time. I feel blessed to be alive in an era where we can create experiences like these and share them with each other. This was an experience...not a film for me. Thanks James Cameron.
Frank Samuel
12-23-2009, 12:46 AM
James Cameron was working as an adviser for the Mars mission. The last I've heard the mission to Mars was postponed for 10yrs. I often wonder, why did Mr. Cameron decide to work with NASA on this project? The movie Avatar is a very spiritual movie and it mixes fiction with reality. I'm sure James got to see and hear a lot of classified info which many astronauts and scientist are eager to reveal yet due to the clearances needed to work at NASA cannot disclosed in a direct manner.The DNA cloning of a Human with an extraterrestrial is very real, the message about the planet connection to all life is also very real.As a 16 yr. ARMY veteran I can tell that some of the Military equipment such as the exoskeleton is science fact. I'm sure that James got quite an education at NASA.
GenerationIke
12-23-2009, 01:10 AM
Wes Studi, one of the great Native American actors, was the voice of the Na'vi father. I couldn't help but see many aspects of Last of the Mohicans in the movie myself. Why do you think George Washington was called Town Destroyer during the American Revolution? How many of you know of the Clinton-Sullivan Campaign in central New York against the Iroquois? Or even studied it in American History?
I was haunted for the remainder of the night by the message that the movie presented. But Cameron presented another message in his movie, I'm not sure anyone picked up on it or if Cameron did himself even. The fact that the natives communed with nature and their mother god Eywa directly. That is so pre THE FALL and not St. Augustinian Roman Catholicism. Man as good and innocent before the fall, man as pure evil after the fall. And man, this time, fights to maintain his pre-fall status rather than choose corporate, material greed and do evil.
In this movie Cameron presents the old Native American saying "walk a mile in another's moccasins" before you can truly know and understand the other person. That is what Tully did when he stepped into the body of his Avatar. He had to learn the other life's way of living in order to survive. And with it he learned to appreciate and love what was given to him by the spirit Eywa much more than the material wealth the corporate machine could ever bribe or entice him with.
I think Cameron is also sending us the message, we had better learn to let go of our greed, our selfishness, our egotism that makes us believe we are the superior race in this universe. Greed is neither good nor the essence of man or creation. And we are far from being superior as a babe is to an adult. Take only what is needed and then when you are finished, give back. Man has not done this since the fall. And we have not been taught well how to take only what is needed and leave the rest for others by our ancestors. (the manna from heaven story in the Bible.)
And one last thought to add, perhaps Cameron is telling the Corporate man in his latest offering to stick it. I am telling the world about the people of other worlds, how kind and as gentle they are as we are not.
:trumpet:
Gevaudan
12-23-2009, 02:26 AM
While walking through a store I noticed a child wearing an Avatar t-shirt. There were all sorts of Avatar products around. Later, while passing by a television set, I noticed that McDonalds has Avatar merchandise.
Now, I am in no way wanting to take away from the beautiful message of the story, but here is what I thought about while seeing all of the Avatar products:
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:mfr_lol:
Frank Samuel
12-23-2009, 03:25 AM
The movie cost 400 miliion to make it I'm sure the investors are in it to make a profit. For the garbage that Hollywood puts out this movie is a gem.
Thumps up for James Cameron !!!
Gevaudan
12-23-2009, 03:54 AM
For the garbage that Hollywood puts out this movie is a gem.
Absolutely. The massive marketing campaign will work on two fronts. The marketing will create a profit for the investors, while the story may cause a shift in the consciousness of its audience.
Opposite philosophies (materialism vs. idealism) attached such a popular focal point will introduce many others to the greater battle taking place. Perhaps some will remember why they're here and ready themselves for the unknown.
It would be a strange twist of fate if the very people who funded this massive movie were ultimately removed from power by the people who purchased tickets to see their investment.
clarkkent
12-23-2009, 04:11 AM
theres all sorts of irony, cameron using the most cutting edge technology and pushing tech further than it has gone in order to deliver a movie that is essentially anti technology.
someone i was talking to said this was hypocritical and i argued otherwise, i said if your on a speeding train do you go from car to car to tell a few people to pull the breaks or do you get on the PA system and tell them ALL to pump the breaks. its essenitally the same thing and im sure he knows it.
great movie, the 3D is mind blowing, good sci fi is rare so i highly recommend going and making an effort to see it in its intended form...you will be seeing a lot more movies in 3D after this.
joe2288
12-23-2009, 04:27 AM
Absolutely. The marketing will create a profit for the investors, while the story may cause a shift in the consciousness of its audience.
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This is true, the problem is most movies portray negative aspects of contact
and we always play the victim. The amazing story part of this movie is not only
could contact be an amazing thing, but it's not necessarily them as the bad
guys were just as guilty.
HENNA
12-23-2009, 07:15 AM
James Cameron was working as an adviser for the Mars mission. The last I've heard the mission to Mars was postponed for 10yrs. I often wonder, why did Mr. Cameron decide to work with NASA on this project? The movie Avatar is a very spiritual movie and it mixes fiction with reality. I'm sure James got to see and hear a lot of classified info which many astronauts and scientist are eager to reveal yet due to the clearances needed to work at NASA cannot disclosed in a direct manner.The DNA cloning of a Human with an extraterrestrial is very real, the message about the planet connection to all life is also very real.As a 16 yr. ARMY veteran I can tell that some of the Military equipment such as the exoskeleton is science fact. I'm sure that James got quite an education at NASA.
Cameron wrote this 15 years ago and had to just put it away in the drawer, due to the lack of technology at the time to make the movie the way he envisioned. He said he had to shave off a vast amount of the original because there was just way to much background and depth into so many of the characters.
I do think that a lot of the TV shows and Hollywood movies are more correct than not. I don't know if they are being given the ideas in some way, conscious or not. I don't really believe that we have "imaginations" per say, I think when you use your imagination what you are really doing is tapping into the collective consciousness. The Akashic records so to speak and are actually "remembering" more that creating. Maybe it is a combination of both. Remembering and also creating, by putting your own twist of linear drama into it.
So him working with NASA (never a straight answer) to me seems like he wouldn't get much out of them. Why would they reveal "classified" info to a Hollywood director who is making a sci-fi movie? I totally agree that there is cloning etc that is real and in progress now, but why would they tell him?
Is this a huge testing of the human population to desensitize us for disclosure purposes??
What ever the case, it is a GREAT movie ( I have now been twice ). I don't know if it is NLP or mind contol like someone stated, but what ever it is, it's really moving and I am ready for a trip to Pandora! Na'vi!!!!!!!
Operator
12-23-2009, 09:46 PM
The message of the movie was quite clear to me.
We have to unite as ONE.
Since I saw Pirates of the Caribbean the sentence "Up is down" keeps bumping up in my head.
When I see a movie now I look at it from all kind of different angles and see that some topics have reversed or double meaning.
Sometimes you have to mirror roles ... and indeed if you replace the indigenous people of Pandora with humans the message
is that we have to find our roots on this planet again and stand our case when it comes to defend it.
Same thought I had when the aliens from District 9 where confined to earth, limited by their (broken) technology and
not allowed to leave earth.
Jacqui D
12-23-2009, 10:22 PM
You are so right operator, this is exactly what i thought having watched this one and district 9.
An earlier post i asked everyone if this film affected them, a post on GLP forum has discussed the self same thing.
They were stating the film was a form of mind control, well i see it for the truth the state of this world now being over run and what we have to do to get mother earth back on track we just need to connect again love and care for everything living thing.
I would love to see it in 3D or imax but our nearest one is so far away. but i loved it anyway.
This guy is a genius he has undoubtedly seen much while working for NASA and incorporated it into all his films. Once seen it makes you want to see more and i am waiting for the sequel already lol!
Since I saw Pirates of the Caribbean the sentence "Up is down" keeps bumping up in my head.
When I see a movie now I look at it from all kind of different angles and see that some topics have reversed or double meaning.
Sometimes you have to mirror roles ... and indeed if you replace the indigenous people of Pandora with humans the message
is that we have to find our roots on this planet again and stand our case when it comes to defend it.
Same thought I had when the aliens from District 9 where confined to earth, limited by their (broken) technology and
not allowed to leave earth.
EYES WIDE OPEN
12-23-2009, 10:24 PM
James Cameron made a film about Ayahausca, Ecology, needless wars, and oil. I just saw it on the UKs biggest IMAX 3D screen. Its made my jaw drop.
The joining of human and plant consiousness is what happens when you have ayahausca. Just like the Na'Vi do when they join with the plants. The common short term for Ayahausca is Aya. The Na'Vi god is called Iywa. Another name of the Ayahausca vine is Vine of the soul. The tree in Avatar is the tree of souls. The inside of the tree is a double helix just like the Ayahuasca vine. James cameron has done his research.
You MUST see this on the biggest screen you can and you MUST SEE IT IN 3D!!!
Frank Samuel
12-23-2009, 10:28 PM
Henna I was a ex military man with a top secret clearance , many of us would like to talked about what we do or did. The connection that NASA has to Hollywood is historical. Do you think for one second they would go to Mars and show the general public was really up there . James Cameron was the perfect solution to hide and create an illusion. In order to do this you have to let him in on a secret but you cannot work on these projects without a clearance so I am sure the same clause apply to James like anybody else who has a top secret clearance . The reason they postponed the trip to Mars is to wait after the disclosure shock is over then the services of Mr. Cameron will no longer be needed .How long before disclosure takes place, it will take a couple of years at least. I love this movie because many veterans have done things we are ashamed of and in many ways it does justice to the way many veterans feel after they come back from war wish we could put our weapons down and disobey the orders to engage the enemy. No I will not sir.
Leunamros
12-24-2009, 12:17 AM
We dont have to unite as one, for godīs sake!. Because we canīt.
****ty unoriginal script, good fx, thatīs all.
Hiram
12-24-2009, 05:37 PM
I now realize why the film affected me as i did. I have had some time to think on it for a number of days now.
When the main character jumps from his human body to the Alien Body, and the image of the tunnel of light comes on the screen, it looked WAY TOO FAMILIAR. In fact, I believe that this image has unlocked some previous memories I have had. Memories concerning my true nature as a being.
In another scene, Jake remarks to himself in reference to his Avatar..."Its as if that world were the real one...and this one is only a dream."
This is what is happening to many of us. Its a beautiful process realizing who you really are and why you're here.
There are many triggers in this world, and I am enchanted by this last one.
Hiram
12-24-2009, 05:41 PM
We dont have to unite as one, for godīs sake!. Because we canīt.
****ty unoriginal script, good fx, thatīs all.
Patterns of simple light, in interesting forms can be quite arresting, and can invoke powerful emotions. No different than patterns of sound waves creating music evoke powerful emotions.
A compelling script...or any script at all...is not necessary for something to be breathtaking.
Malletzky
12-28-2009, 09:52 AM
I saw Avatar in 3D yesterday evening with my son...and I must say, WOW !
There're definitely some messages in there...so many triggers indeed.
Two things especially...
first...the sky above Pandora...it looks so familiar...I don't know why, but I seem to have seen this (or something pretty similar) somewhere. But where :mad3::original: exactly?
second...and I had to think more about this...there's a scene where Jake, recording for his blog, says that he can't remember any more about the last few months...about what happened in his "normal", as a human being life!
This made me think...about the seeming realities...what's real, what's not.
This made me think of the possibility that what he experienced as being Na'vi, actually IS the real state of being for us, the humans. This is what we trully are (or should be)...or at least, there are some components there of our REAL existence.
And that yes, being a human, it's only a dream, a really bad dream...
malletzky
p.s. by the way, it's realy worth the money...and I consider to take another view...as you just can't perceive everything by seeing it once...
Spregovori
12-28-2009, 12:11 PM
Saw the move...xpand...etc...
nothing special to be truly honest
the story is boring and predictable, the CGI is nice...
but the movie does have a point - about brave white monkey...trying do do whatever it takes in the name of corporate interest..and it also has a spiritual part (all nature inter connected together with beings on that moon...all is energy, energy is one..one is all...etc)
we can now only hope that the more human animals see the movie...and go...ohh uhh how pretty etc....the more might get what the movie is showing...
which is basically...the whole Africa for example...
and also the movie "accidentally" happens to be here together with the "save the planet" campaign by the globalists
but I am afraid that it will stay at the...ooo how pretty ....and nothing else
side note: the movie (stereoscopic projection + goggles) was not gentle to my eyes, my eyes are still "tired" after 2 days... i wonder how that influenced my brain...that usually determines x,y,z naturally in an instant...and now the "fake" 3d...
giovonni
01-01-2010, 10:34 PM
I had the opportunity and delightful surprise of seeing AVATAR last evening with some friends.
In 3D WoW!!!
a truly wonderful magical~ mystically dimensional experience.
:mf_lustslow: It!
This film could of easily been intitled Avalon :lol3:
http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/avatartank.jpg
UncleJohn
01-01-2010, 10:45 PM
I saw Avatar yesterday in 3D. One of the best movies I've ever seen.
mntruthseeker
01-02-2010, 01:15 AM
One thing that really stuck the chord is how the corporation is being presented in the movie.
Greedy and lustful.
Yeah they are teaching natives english and rest but they only do that in order so the natives can peacefully go away and let the leeches dig the rock worthy of 20 mil.
Then they go to war against natives with typical BULLSH*T attitude of nowadays -you know who- in this world.
And also that mention of erasing the collective memory ...
I wonder will Cameron be silent afterwards just as brothers Watchowsky after Matrix...
I hope people realize the full impact of the movie and finally do something. I posted an old video of the protesting of what is happening in Peru on my face book this morning with a question.............Anyone watch Avatar ?
I actually started crying in the movie and I really didnt want to do that. Its sent a clear message of the "greed" of TPTB's. So far not one person has sent me a message on this..............so its the same old ****..............ignore it cause its not here yet.
Indigocat
01-04-2010, 08:39 PM
Loved the film , not just for the great graphics but for a real and important story, one we have mostly forgotten .
Love how they understand that all is connected to mother earth, being the tree of life in this film and many cultures . Its a deep message of remembering the values that mean much more than money, greed , and sacrificing the many to satisfy the few . It portrays what is happening here and now right infront of our faces on our own planet ,and how we are willing to go beyond and rape:bash: other planets with no regard:furious: for what major affect it may have . I will be buying this when it comes our on DVD , and will probably become one of my all time favs like 'The Abyss' another great story we can all learn from .
twoRone
01-04-2010, 08:47 PM
Indigocat... your avatar being from the movie avatar is profound unto itself!!:nono:
fractal much??... LOL
the movie was awesome and the message was even more..
528hz to you
Gnosis5
01-04-2010, 09:30 PM
AVATAR HD TRAILER
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jonemere
01-06-2010, 06:58 AM
I saw this movie at last night. I thought it was pretty movie. It is the best movie of the year. It was entertaining and enjoyable movie. Awesome movie. I really enjoyed.
Swanny
01-09-2010, 12:54 PM
I think I'll wait a year just in case there is some subliminal stuff in there :hypo:
:eyes:
clarkkent
01-09-2010, 01:49 PM
theres nothing subliminal that you wont find in most hollywood movies. actually the themes and "message" if you will are all positive ones- be in balance with nature, dont kill indigenous people for corporate profit, were all part of the web of life.
and besides subliminal messages dont evaporate if you wait a year.
lindabaker
01-09-2010, 02:46 PM
Hey, Swanny, just go see it. You can PM me with all kinds of grief if you don't like it. LB
swordsmith
01-09-2010, 02:53 PM
just go see it because it is beautiful .
lightnoise
01-09-2010, 06:02 PM
James Cameron made a film about Ayahausca, Ecology, needless wars, and oil. I just saw it on the UKs biggest IMAX 3D screen. Its made my jaw drop.
The joining of human and plant consiousness is what happens when you have ayahausca. Just like the Na'Vi do when they join with the plants. The common short term for Ayahausca is Aya. The Na'Vi god is called Iywa. Another name of the Ayahausca vine is Vine of the soul. The tree in Avatar is the tree of souls. The inside of the tree is a double helix just like the Ayahuasca vine. James cameron has done his research.
You MUST see this on the biggest screen you can and you MUST SEE IT IN 3D!!!
Yeah he seems to know alot - very interesting choice of "tall blue's" as they are one of the much less known & talked about species.
swordsmith
01-09-2010, 07:04 PM
also their god/goddess is aywah/ yahway, anyway it all works for me. What's not to like? and I don't say that very often. fughedabout the mind control subliminal stuff that may be there, it shouldn't be a problem for people who chose to be here. The only stuff that slightly rang false was a tiny bit one world hoodoo/lionking-ish . Not a problem. Only two bits of that IMO.
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It may be interesting to note, that a channel named Adronis (Brad Johnson channeling Adronis) mentions in one of his presentations that 'Avatar planet and people' really exist about 50 light years from our solar system.
Seems that James Cameron got his inspiration for Avatar from actual reality in the universe...
You can watch Adronis's presentation here;
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3706379
At about 1 hr 5 minutes Avatar movie is mentioned.
burgundia
01-09-2010, 08:53 PM
Vatican has just criticized the movie, mainly the plot.....
reggaeman
01-09-2010, 09:10 PM
did anyone notice the serpent on the side of the helicopter?? Strange how it was a giant serpent that saved the day also.:eyes:
mikey
01-09-2010, 09:22 PM
i saw avatar albeit ''illegally'' (making it even more better, for a lack of another word!)...the film holds many important messages to all viewers that can see behind the amazing graphics.
the story writers of the film surely must know what they are doing....one hopes
love and peace always
mikey
NicholaQuinn
01-09-2010, 10:51 PM
I love this movie so much, I have also been to see it twice. Best film I have ever seen, and I love the Leona Lewis track from the film also.xxx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4jYr4502M0
DiVineEnvy
01-10-2010, 12:15 AM
A sublime experience...I can't wait to watch it again in 3D!
G9211
01-10-2010, 01:37 AM
I just saw this movie earlier tonight. I knew it would be good but it was OUTSTANDING!
If you know enough about the planet we live on and it's history, this is a very deep story. If you are lacking this information, the movie will probably fall short for you.
I love the part when the main character holds up a Na 'Vi book talking about making someone look like an enemy to justify taking something they own. Hmmm, that sounds painfully familiar throughout our history.
This is a MUST see IN the theater.
PS: I wasn't thrilled with this in 3D. I dislike 3D movies in general. Just my opinion, but my friend loved the 3D so, go figure.
pilot
01-10-2010, 02:02 AM
I just saw this movie earlier tonight. I knew it would be good but it was OUTSTANDING!
If you know enough about the planet we live on and it's history, this is a very deep story. If you are lacking this information, the movie will probably fall short for you.
I love the part when the main character holds up a Na 'Vi book talking about making someone look like an enemy to justify taking something they own. Hmmm, that sounds painfully familiar throughout our history.
This is a MUST see IN the theater.
PS: I wasn't thrilled with this in 3D. I dislike 3D movies in general. Just my opinion, but my friend loved the 3D so, go figure.
Yeah. That was my favorite part too-he summed up the conquest mentality perfectly, everybody I've talked to loved it.
futureyes
01-10-2010, 03:32 AM
wonderful movie ... i have seen it twice now ... 3d imax ...
had to ... so many triggers for me the first go round ... kept going off somewhere ... many rememberings ... so much familiarity ... not of this life experience though ... felt like something of a similar nature ... had already been ... hmm ...
anyway ... swanny ... bite the bullet and go see it ... i think you will like it ...
great movie to start off 2010 ...
:wub2:
Kundaflower
01-10-2010, 08:26 AM
Hi all,
I dont know if i am qualified to take part in this threat since i saw Avatar
about half an hour before i quit...enough is enough....
Same old...same old......
With suppa dubba million billion triljon budget and special effects....
Dosent impress me...
Peace
KF:wub2:
Swanny
01-10-2010, 11:41 AM
did anyone notice the serpent on the side of the helicopter?? Strange how it was a giant serpent that saved the day also.:eyes:
Thx for the spoiler :naughty:
reggaeman
01-10-2010, 12:15 PM
Thx for the spoiler :naughty:hehe it wasnt really but kinda :wink2:
Echo6
01-10-2010, 12:24 PM
It may be interesting to note, that a channel named Adronis (Brad Johnson channeling Adronis) mentions in one of his presentations that 'Avatar planet and people' really exist about 50 light years from our solar system.
Seems that James Cameron got his inspiration for Avatar from actual reality in the universe...
You can watch Adronis's presentation here;
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3706379
At about 1 hr 5 minutes Avatar movie is mentioned.
I have heard a few rumours around the place of something similar, although the original source is not channelled material. That being said, I have no idea as to the veracity of the rumour. Quite possibly false.
rockdiamond
01-10-2010, 02:14 PM
Hello, watched the movie.. lots of hidden / underlying messages (need to watch again) -few things:
-What's with this theme of rebuilding from a great sacrifice? (all the dead blues)
-Genetic engineering can be fun?
-Can't remember if the mining executive dude got what was coming to him
-Unobtainium? WTF?
Malletzky
01-10-2010, 03:40 PM
...had to ... so many triggers for me the first go round ... kept going off somewhere ... many rememberings ... so much familiarity ... not of this life experience though ... felt like something of a similar nature ... had already been ... hmm ...
:wub2:
Futureyes, I have the same feelings. I just can't let figure out about some deatils there, which I already posted earlier on this thread...that:
..the sky above Pandora...it looks so familiar...I don't know why, but I seem to have seen this (or something pretty similar) somewhere. But where exactly?
malletzky
clarkkent
01-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Hello, watched the movie.. lots of hidden / underlying messages (need to watch again) -few things:
-What's with this theme of rebuilding from a great sacrifice? (all the dead blues)
-Genetic engineering can be fun?
-Can't remember if the mining executive dude got what was coming to him
-Unobtainium? WTF?
i dont think anything was very "hidden"
well, the heroes of the story are the na'vi and they certainly werent doing any genetic engeneering.
-they didnt rebuild they moved to a different part of the forest. (and even if they did i dont see what your getting at, this is all historical allegory)
-giovanni ribisi's character (the corporate douchbag) got booted back to the future wasteland earth witht the rest of the corporate/military folk.
-unobtanium is just a goofy name for a mineral and a play on "unobtainable" to me i took it as the corporate/military/imperialists/humans/us are looking for another resource that can fuel their biological stupidity and that it is "unobtainable"
i find myself defending this movie a lot when people call it hypocritical for having anti technology themes yet uses and advances the latest technology to say it (my analogy is if a train is headed toward a brick wall, do you tell the passengers to pull the brakes going cart to cart person to person, or do you get on the PA system and announce to everyone all at once to pump the brakes)
and people looking for some covert PTB/ illuminatti messages, programming etc.
folks this story is age old, its pocahontas, dances with wolves etc etc.
stories and myths are as old as humanity and this one is connecting to people because the theme of indigeneous people in balance being overcome by "civilization" strikes a chord with people.
the reason its important is because we are out of balance as a species , tribes have lived in balance and continue to do so despite civilzations attempts to eradicate them.
if we wipe ourselves out guess who will still be here?...tribes unconnected to society and knowing how to live simply off the land and in harmony with animals/plants etc.
if atlantis was true then our first go round with civilization failed and its not unthinkable to think this time might not work either. in the long run materialism and civilization just might be biological blips on the radar where we got it wrong.
of course if their are ET's and they somehow figured out how to have tech aaaaaand be in balance with nature, then maybe we can figure it out, but so far civilization has been a bad experiment.
like jake sully says in the movie, "They're not gonna give up their home. They're not gonna make a deal. For what? A light beer, and some blue jeans? Their's nothing we have that they want."
http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/
-clark
Swanny
01-10-2010, 05:02 PM
Trouble is I have no one to go and see it with :sad:
Anyone want to see it with me??? :original:
lindabaker
01-10-2010, 08:09 PM
Aw, crud, Swan, we'd come and get ya, but we're on the wrong continent! Hmmm, what are we to do? Are there taxis available? Going solo to the movies is more fun than you might think...we do it all of the time...LB
Gnosis5
01-11-2010, 12:00 AM
I think I'll wait a year just in case there is some subliminal stuff in there :hypo:
:eyes:
Good point, I'll probably do some EFT tapping before and after :original:
Gnosis5
01-11-2010, 12:01 AM
Aw, crud, Swan, we'd come and get ya, but we're on the wrong continent! Hmmm, what are we to do? Are there taxis available? Going solo to the movies is more fun than you might think...we do it all of the time...LB
Hello lady,
Glad you enjoyed the flick. Nice avatar photo, thanks for the smile.
Gnosis
Machforce1
01-11-2010, 12:05 AM
The movie was incredibly moving. It was one of only a handful of films that I've ever seen where the audience stood up and clapped at the end of the movie. Clearly this film is affecting people on a very deep level - and that's a good thing.
viking
01-14-2010, 05:21 PM
Not sure if this had been posted....A small clip...enjoy for those who haven't yet seen the film...
Pandora Discovered
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viking
Swanny
01-14-2010, 09:13 PM
Thx it looks good :original:
FIIISH
01-17-2010, 01:15 AM
Just saw Avatar in 3D, and it was quite good.
As some have said, the storyline is predictable, but practically
the entire movie qualifies as a "special effect" and there are definitely
some messages in there for the populace.
I liked the final major battle where it looked like all was lost,
and they realized their prayers had been heard when the animals
converged en-masse to join in the fight against the invading humans.
Got quite rush of emotion from that, which is rare for me.
I would recommend this movie...
:thumb_yello:
Swanny
01-31-2010, 06:57 PM
Tonight for the second time I've been to the pictures to see avatar but for the second time didn't get in as it was fully booked.
Now I'm thinking that maybe I'm not supposed to see it :thumb_yello:
lindabaker
01-31-2010, 07:51 PM
Swanny, it just means that a lot of people want to see it. Don't give up.
monique
01-31-2010, 11:19 PM
[QUOTE=rockdiamond;219722]Hello, watched the movie.. lots of hidden / underlying messages (need to watch again) -few things:
-Genetic engineering can be fun?
Rockdiamond, sorry my english is bad. I dont see the fun of it. I think this is the point of the film that make me feel ill, because for me - the genetic engeneering and the life of the americans in these bodies is like a walk in. Other way, the genetic engeneeering and the demand for "uranium" "to bear resemblance" to the story that zecharias sichten write in his books. Monique.
Swanny
02-01-2010, 12:05 AM
Swanny, it just means that a lot of people want to see it. Don't give up.
I'm not going to push it, my intuition is telling me to stay away :original:
futureyes
02-01-2010, 01:41 AM
I'm not going to push it, my intuition is telling me to stay away :original:
everything for a reason swanny ... glad ur listening to your inners ... :thumb_yello:
:wub2:
lindabaker
02-01-2010, 02:33 AM
Well, Swanny, if your intuition tells you to stay away, by all means, do.
Gnosis5
02-09-2010, 03:15 AM
Swanny, it just means that a lot of people want to see it. Don't give up.
At the end of the movie both sides degrade to force which, for me, spoils the movie.
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