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PilotSimone
12-21-2009, 03:19 AM
I read this today @ http://www.therainbowscribe.com/thefinalquadrant.htm (The Rainbow Scribe).
We are telling you that the overlaying of time is going to start to have a new meaning for you. We hope that you start to play with this and push the boundaries of things that have always had very clear boundaries—time is time. You have atomic clocks that keep exact and perfect time, yet two years ago you had to sneak in an extra second just to make it work. The whole idea of time is changing, because the rotation of the inner Earth is changing. This is not a mystical thing. It is simply that the core of the Earth is changing its rotation. It rotates at a different rate than the surface of the Earth. This has also increased and created the illusion of time on planet Earth. As that spin rate starts to change, you will start to see behind the veil a little bit more on this illusion of time and you will find new ways to use it. Play with it.
Does anyone have experience pushing these boundaries? If so, I would love to hear your stories.
My family is doing it's own little Time experiment as no one in our household is bound by a schedule. So, for a couple of months now we have been going to bed and waking without a clock. We eat whenever we feel hungry and we don't make scheduled plans unless absolutely necessary. Almost everything is on the fly.
The kids seem much, much happier. For me, there's an obvious change. The amount of time I spend thinking of the past or future has plummeted. Such a difference from just 6 months ago when probably 95% of my life was spent doing this.
Anyway, I think we all feel that time is speeding up. Even the most 'asleep' people I know are feeling this. I'm just curious if anyone else has been experimenting. :original:
joe2288
12-21-2009, 03:35 AM
Here's a recent coast to coast am show discussing time shift's so on good info if you'd like to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS8jVuto-BA
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 06:19 AM
"Time seems to stand right still, in a child's world it always will." Moody Blues
It's always right now. Time is an illusion.
Finding oneself at a point in time or in space is illusory.
Boundless consciousness is Reality.
Scarab
12-21-2009, 06:20 AM
"Time seems to stand right still, in a child's world it always will." Moody Blues
It's always right now. Time is an illusion.
Finding oneself at a point in time or in space is illusory.
Boundless consciousness is Reality.
If time is an illusion, how do we schedule lunch?
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 06:29 AM
If time is an illusion, how do we schedule lunch?
Your being is perpetually a cycle of enormous activity that your mind encapsulates into one thing.
Similarly, the mind encapsulates time into segments.
Most fundamentally, the beginning of my life to the end, equals "my" time.
But it's always right now, in Reality.
Time is similar to a calendar, people agree on the measures, similar to boundaries between nations, the boundaries don't really exist, neither is there a boundary in time.
Reality is boundless and immeasurable, though, infinite in all directions.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 06:54 AM
This is why I don't wear a watch... I don't wear a watch yet I'm always early for everything... I usually don't know what day it is because I just count how many days I've worked, then I know I have 3 off and it starts all over. I hate time and I especially hate daylight savings time... Yuck! Such restrictions on my freedom... All of ours really :thumbdown: What do you think it would be like if the whole world realized time is irrevelant... but love, understanding, creativity, free energy and true knowledge was VERY relevant? What if you had all the time in the world to do all that you never learned to do? Build a garden, share with your neighbors, travel, learn a trade or skill and again... share with your neighbors... Freedom from our 'timed' schedules to be able to do what we want, when we want because it's abundant and because we can!... We only need to choose a simpler life without time or money. Remember that means no holidays however... No holidays because EVERY day is a holiday!!! :naughty:
Sorry didn't mean to sound like Obama there with the 'We can!' :wink2:
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 06:57 AM
We think alike on that Angel. It frustrated me my entire life that people had all these set ways of acting on certain days, puppet show stuff...
Scarab
12-21-2009, 06:58 AM
We think alike on that Angel. It frustrated me my entire life that people had all these set ways of acting on certain days, puppet show stuff...
When do trees drop their leaves?
Or is that an illusion too?
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 07:05 AM
When do trees drop their leaves?
Or is that an illusion too?
It's always right now.
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:06 AM
It's always right now.
Yes. No illusion there.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:10 AM
Scarab... That's just a natural cycle and has nothing to do with time. Leaves don't fall on specific days at a specific time during that day... It just happens cyclically (Is that a word? If not it's still fun to say :wink2:)
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:12 AM
Scarab... That's just a natural cycle and has nothing to do with time. Leaves don't fall on specific days at a specific time during that day... It just happens cyclically (Is that a word? If not it's still fun to say :wink2:)
OH. You want to break it down to specific days.
When do the swallows go to San Juan Capistrano?
Groundhog Day?
Those two came to mind off the top of my head. I could find more if necessary.
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 07:15 AM
Yes. No illusion there.
Children sense/know the eternity of now, that's why it's SO hard to drag them into measured time.
They are spiritually wise, and the adults beat them into submission, cram them into the "real" world that is phony bologna. :original:
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:17 AM
Children sense/know the eternity of now, that's why it's SO hard to drag them into measured time.
They know when it's lunch time.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:20 AM
Children sense/know the eternity of now, that's why it's SO hard to drag them into measured time.
They are spiritually wise, and the adults beat them into submission, cram them into the "real" world that is phony bologna. :original:
We think alike here as well New Age Messiah :thumb_yello:
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 07:20 AM
They know when it's lunch time.
No they don't. They know when they're hungry.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:22 AM
They know when it's lunch time.
How bout just eating when you feel like it? I hated having to wait until lunchtime or recess when I was a kid... I'd either be starving or not hungry at all but I'd always had to wait for that damn bell :nono:
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 07:23 AM
I'd either be starving or not hungry at all but I'd always had to wait for that damn bell :nono:
Misery makes you stronger.
You'll just have to wait, hurry up we're going to be late.
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:24 AM
No they don't. They know when they're hungry.
They know when it's time to eat.
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 07:27 AM
They know when it's time to eat.
You're the same guy that got banned. :original:
they know when they're hungry. Time to eat is a fixed time that has nothing to do with being hungry, unless you happen to be hungry.
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:30 AM
Normally I wouldn't condone feeding the beast here...
However, if a child grows up in the jungle having never known a thing about time.... would he never grow hungry.... No... he would eat when his brain tells him "hey lets get something to eat".... depending on what he ate... it would take a certain amount of energy to digest his food until he became hungry again....
what does any of this have to do with time???
You're the same guy that got banned. :original:
they know when they're hungry. Time to eat is a fixed time that has nothing to do with being hungry, unless you happen to be hungry.
Who I am in real life is of no consequence to you.
Kids get hungry after enough time has elapsed since their last meal.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:30 AM
There doesn't necessarily have to be a 'time' to eat... Just eat when you're hungry. I don't care what time of day it is, sure I'll have breakfast before dark and dinner when I get hungry... which will be later but I never know what time and I don't really care what time... it's when I'm hungry! :thumb_yello:
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:30 AM
How come nobody can answer about the swallows or the groundhogs?
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:35 AM
Personally... didn't think to research it because I highly doubt that groundhogs specifically come out of their hole on feb 2 of each year, but wait I will look it up :wink2:
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:45 AM
Here you go... I don't see anywhere where it specifically says Feb 2nd is the day groundhogs come out... I do read that they hibernate for 3 months yes, they also say they wake up early Feb... That could mean the 1st, 3rd or 4th... who knows perhaps depending on the weather it could be way earlier or later... Who knows and who cares, it just happens.
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/article.cfm?issueid=73&articleid=1043
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:47 AM
Who knows and who cares, it just happens.
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/article.cfm?issueid=73&articleid=1043
Yes, it does. Always around the same TIME.
How about the swallows. Did you research that too?
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:49 AM
Yes, it does. Always around the same TIME.
How about the swallows. Did you research that too?
No, not going to bother cause you aren't understanding me so even if I researched it I know it would be a waste of my 'time'... Although I have no problem agreeing to disagree :thumb_yello:
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 07:52 AM
Scarab is an antagonist, he got banned under another name a few days ago.
Scarab
12-21-2009, 07:53 AM
Scarab is an antagonist, he got banned under another name a few days ago.
Not an antagonist. More of a critical thinker.
I have noticed you and the angel there making reference to 'wasting time' and 'a few days ago'.
Or is that illusion?
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:56 AM
I didn't see that, don't like to see it but didn't feel that in this thread until you mentioned he was the guy that got banned... I was little sad to see that but again I missed the whole banned thing so I will not be making judgement... :original:
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:58 AM
Not an antagonist. More of a critical thinker.
I have noticed you and the angel there making reference to 'wasting time' and 'a few days ago'.
Or is that illusion?
Oh Scarab... we all have different illusions and yours may not be the same as ours and that's ok... Which is why we can agree to disagree :wink2:
New Age Messiah
12-21-2009, 08:00 AM
Not an antagonist. More of a critical thinker.
I have noticed you and the angel there making reference to 'wasting time' and 'a few days ago'.
Or is that illusion?
You're a critic, all you want to do is criticize, and jab and poke and needle and basically you're up to no good.
Whatever.
Scarab
12-21-2009, 08:02 AM
Oh Scarab... we all have different illusions and yours may not be the same as ours and that's ok... Which is why we can agree to disagree :wink2:
Believe it or not, I have an open mind.
Show me (in simple terms and your own words) how time is an illusion. Please explain how the examples from nature I gave fit into the illusion and also please explain how the illusion applies to the limited days in a man's life.
I do want to learn. It's just that, at the surface, it sounds like bunk.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 08:04 AM
Believe it or not, I have an open mind.
Show me how time is an illusion. Please explain how the examples from nature I gave fit into the illusion and also please explain how the illusion applies to the limited days in a man's life.
I do want to learn. It's just that, at the surface, it sounds like bunk.
It sounds bunk because you're not open to seeing the opposite of what you know or think you know or perhaps were taught... Once you master that the possiblities are endless... or should I say 'timeless'
Scarab
12-21-2009, 08:06 AM
It sounds bunk because you're not open to seeing the opposite of what you know or think you know or perhaps were taught... Once you master that the possiblities are endless... or should I say 'timeless'
If you don't want to explain it, that's OK too. Maybe somebody else can?
I don't know if scarab is necessarily saying you are wrong.
I think he just wants you to explain why you think that, if you understand why or are just parroting another new age bullet point.
I'm just guessing though on that. Maybe I'm not understanding either.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 08:09 AM
If you don't want to explain it, that's OK too. Maybe somebody else can?
Best way to explain it is it's like when you go on vacation... You often lost track of the time, you see it's day or night but you never know what time nor day it is... It doesn't matter, it just IS. Does that help?
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 08:11 AM
I don't know if scarab is necessarily saying you are wrong.
I think he just wants you to explain why you think that, if you understand why or are just parroting another new age bullet point.
Maybe I'm not understanding either, though.
I'm not taking it as wrong, more like different views and that's ok... I have no problem with that whatsoever. Just find it hard to express what I know in that sense, trying but obviously having difficulties and that is not Scarab's fault. If anything it's mine :wink2:
Scarab
12-21-2009, 08:12 AM
Best way to explain it is it's like when you go on vacation... You often lost track of the time, you see it's day or night but you never know what time nor day it is... It doesn't matter, it just IS. Does that help?
Honestly. No.
Because during that vacation, if you're flying on an airplane and staying at a hotel, taking tours or doing activities, there are check in times, waiting times, check out times, show times, tour times etc.
Even if you walk into the wilderness for vacation, there is a time to leave, a time to sleep, a time to eat and when you return you will have spent x days and/or y hours in the wildernes.
Time will have passed.
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 08:21 AM
Honestly. No.
Because during that vacation, if you're flying on an airplane and staying at a hotel, taking tours or doing activities, there are check in times, waiting times, check out times, show times, tour times etc.
Even if you walk into the wilderness for vacation, there is a time to leave, a time to sleep, a time to eat and when you return you will have spent x days and/or y hours in the wildernes.
Time will have passed.
The point is... What if there wasn't?
Scarab
12-21-2009, 08:25 AM
The point is... What if there wasn't?
OK. The 'what if' makes it pretty clear to me now. Thank You.
PilotSimone
12-21-2009, 08:41 AM
I'm just really curious to know what they mean by pushing boundaries.
I'm ready to play. :original:
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 08:43 AM
It's either clear or it's not and I'm not convinced you 'clearly' understand by your response... Was that condescending or was it really 'clearly' understood?
Anchor
12-21-2009, 08:58 AM
Kids get hungry after enough time has elapsed since their last meal.
What you say seems more like a coincidence to me.
Actually they get hungry because they ran out of the last lot of food, and the body is ready for more. This can take varying lengths of time.
There may be no relation between this physiology and time. It is quite possible that time is still irrelevant to this process, but we are conditioned to see it as relevant.
A..
Fredkc
12-21-2009, 09:05 AM
Scarab - You are having entirely too much fun with this. (he heh)
Ever see the movie "Deep Blue Sea" ?
1982, Alain Aspect conducted some experiments in particle physics.
"Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.
University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm..."
So time, along with space becomes either an all-inclusive "now", or a paradox.
Finally, there is a great family-owned "greasy spoon" restaurant about 6 miles from me called El Rancho. They do an incredible omelet!
How's 12:30 Monday sound for lunch?
Fred
Anchor
12-21-2009, 09:07 AM
If you don't want to explain it, that's OK too. Maybe somebody else can?
I'd like to try.
When you are focussed on an very absorbing task - one that you enjoy, time passes but most people can relate the experience of when the awareness of time passing does not happen. It doesn't always happen, but when it does it can be quite profound.
When you are done with your task - you realise how much time has passed - yet you are amazed at the disconnect between that fact and how it actually feels
In my view - if you can relate to that - then there lies a clue to what I think is being expressed.
I would say that it is the experience of time that is an illusion.
Time is a fact not an illusion. Time passes. Linear time is experienced, it can be measured. The original post does not refute that either. It simply says the mechanics are changing.
Have you never driven from A to B and then suddenly realised you just arrived with no recollection of the minutiae of details that happened on the journey - nor the passage of time associated with it? It is a common experience among people undergoing energetic changes within their bodies.
A..
Fredkc
12-21-2009, 09:11 AM
Hey Anchor... how's it going?
That was why I asked,
Ever see the movie "Deep Blue Sea" ?
In there is a great explanation of that:
"Put your hand on a hot stove, a second can seem like an hour.
Put your hand on a hot woman, and an hour goes by like a second." ;)
Fred
Anchor
12-21-2009, 09:14 AM
"Put your hand on a hot stove, a second can seem like an hour.
Put your hand on a hot woman, and an hour goes by like a second."
Somewhat crude but effective analogy ;)
A..
Scarab
12-21-2009, 03:31 PM
I'd like to try.
When you are focussed on an very absorbing task - one that you enjoy, time passes but most people can relate the experience of when the awareness of time passing does not happen. It doesn't always happen, but when it does it can be quite profound.
When you are done with your task - you realise how much time has passed - yet you are amazed at the disconnect between that fact and how it actually feels
In my view - if you can relate to that - then there lies a clue to what I think is being expressed.
I would say that it is the experience of time that is an illusion.
Time is a fact not an illusion. Time passes. Linear time is experienced, it can be measured. The original post does not refute that either. It simply says the mechanics are changing.
Have you never driven from A to B and then suddenly realised you just arrived with no recollection of the minutiae of details that happened on the journey - nor the passage of time associated with it? It is a common experience among people undergoing energetic changes within their bodies.
A..
I can agree fully that our perception of how quickly time passes changes. It seems to be based mostly on how much attention we pay to time.
8 or 10 hours of sleep passes with immediacy.
I was questioning the posters who stated that 'time is an illusion' and seemed to state that no day is different from any other.
As for the OP, if the rotation of the earth is speeding up, then days will become shorter. If (and I mean IF) the earth's core spins at a different rate than the earth's crust, I would say that would have no bearing on our perception of time.
Time is the measurement of speed at which interstellar and intersolar objects move through space in relation to each other.
I don't think anyone here can experiment with that.
futureyes
12-21-2009, 07:07 PM
i can't say i intentionally experiement with time ... i feel that slowly ... time itself has been teaching me something of significance ...
that it doesn't exist ...
this began many years ago ... had to refrain from wearing watches as every part of me would race with anxiety ... i couldn't handle it any longer ...
what i have come to experience ... is that time is something we had given birth to ... time is a limitation ... just like many of the other boundaries we have placed before and around us ... wrapped our selves in ...
time is not ... natural ...
time is not within us ... time is without us ...
slowly ... the greater the truth of the time concept began to break down for me ... the more i transcended it ... experiencing life via instinct and intuition ...
seconds ... minutes and hours ...
days ... months and years ...
schedules ...
sure i know and feel them to remain ... but i feel them to be not of who i really am ... not of my core essence ... not of what is natural ...
and i'll make it to an app't when i need to ... but things are very different now ... i do so but i give time very little priority anymore ...
i love the days when i can just be ... do what i want ... when it feels right to do so ... simply working from within ... this is what feels true and right these days ...
many years ago i remembered being so governed by time ... oh my goodness ... what if i don't get there on time ... what if this or that doesn't happen on time ...
heaven forbid ... what if i forgot to do something ... on time ...
then the barriers of such began to crumble ... it is now that i get just as much done ... if not more ... and SO MUCH more effortlessly ... if i do so from within ... everything just seems to get done and work out fine ... and then ... i sit and go wow ... where did time fly ... :lol3:
it is because i am living from the heart i believe ... the heart being within ...
not living by some clock ... from without ...
within is natural ... feels right ... i feel we will be living more fully ... from the beat of our hearts ...
and days that i feel to not do too much then hey ... those days too i feel now have much significance as the body speaks it needs to just be ... :thumb_yello:
it is when the barrier of time began to fade for me ... that i began to jump realities as well ... experiencing the overlap of dimensions ... as one ... transcending this limitation we have labelled as time ...
i know without a doubt now ... for my self ... that time does not exist ... we have made it so ... and it has governed us ... which is not such a negative thing as it does streamline the workings of this world ...
but in doing so ... we have forgotten that we also have an inner clock per se ... we dismiss what feels true and right within and live accordingly so ... and this is not so beneficial ... then we end up living life experiences of pretense ... of falsehoods ... of another's time clock ... not lives of truth and reality of what really is ... for our selves ...
because we have dismissed what our inner selves speak ...
i remember a few years ago actually feeling other realities flowing and overlapping into what i thought was and could only be ...
and time ... as i thought was ... and the power it had ... slowly began to fade ... i had so many experiences with that ... or 'time experiments' ... which opened up so much more for me ... beyond time ... into space ...
and what is real ... and what is not what it appears to be ...
this truth of time had to be one of the most profound teachings for me ... and continues to be so ...
i have learned so much as really ... when we begin to understand ... through feeling ... that time is not of the essence ... that BEing is of the essence ... EVERYTHING begins to reveal itself ... because yet again ... another barrier has been taken down ...
sure we'll have to continue adhering to schedules and such ... but i feel daily life will be so much different coming up ... the emphasis of being more sovereign ... we DO have the ability to wake up when we want to ... be somewhere when we need to be ...
without clocks everywhere ...
we have these abilities within our selves ... and this is just the beginning ...
it is about TRUSTING that we do ... and going with the flow ... of what feels true and right within ...
time for me to go ... :naughty:
:wub2:
Angel in Disguise
12-21-2009, 07:13 PM
That was a beautiful explanation :thumb_yello::wub2:
joe2288
12-21-2009, 07:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gGur4M2bXU&feature=related
This might explain why some of you are experiencing shifts in time.
Enjoy
joe2288
12-21-2009, 07:46 PM
see what most people aren't understanding is time isn't necessarily speeding up,
but our consciouses is speeding up.
PilotSimone
12-21-2009, 10:09 PM
Here's a recent coast to coast am show discussing time shift's so on good info if you'd like to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS8jVuto-BA
I listened to this last night. Thanks so much for posting it! I've never heard of Starfire before. She's very interesting.
And I'm intrigued by these "Time slips". I hope I start noticing them.
tone3jaguar
12-21-2009, 11:10 PM
The more in the moment you consciousness becomes as a result of consistent meditation the more arbitrary the concept of time becomes. However, if you can't stop yourself from thinking about how the illusion of time is compressing with the acceleration of the evolution of consciousness then I suggest watching this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyml73-U3Yc
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physics envy
12-22-2009, 10:17 AM
I hope this doesn't derail this thread any further, but I heard an explanation of time by Peter Russell that I loved. He turned the speed of light around and said that for every 186,000 miles you stretch light out, you get one second of time (at least in our current perception).
The Lorentz Transformation equations (special relativity) show that time, length, and mass all change as we near the speed of light. Anything moving AT the speed of light has mass increase to infinity, length decrease to 0, and time decrease to 0. So light itself goes nowhere, and takes no time to do it.
So if we stretch light out so we can see what's going on inside it...we get some distance (space), some time (1 sec for every 186k miles), and we can have less than inifinite mass.
If we didn't do this, we'd all think everything was happening simultaneously, and we'd think we were all one big entity :wink2:
New Age Messiah
12-22-2009, 08:17 PM
If we didn't do this, we'd all think everything was happening simultaneously, and we'd think we were all one big entity :wink2:
Maybe we all DO march to the same drum??? :original:
burgundia
12-22-2009, 08:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gGur4M2bXU&feature=related
This might explain why some of you are experiencing shifts in time.
Enjoy
thank you joe for the link...
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