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NorthernSanctuary
12-21-2009, 06:42 PM
Huge picture of our soul/spirit history with our religious/ ET/ connections to the present situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0sncfZpRok&feature=PlayList&p=570095EF1B0987A2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13

Very interesting.

mntruthseeker
12-21-2009, 09:29 PM
Thank you so much for putting these videos up here

I wanted to re-watch them the other day and they were all removed

I am almost done with her second book and re-watching these videos make more sense now

Blessings

14 Chakras
12-21-2009, 09:34 PM
My rather harsh review, I call it constructive criticism ;)


First video ~ starts out with some nice generalization's that everyone can agree with.

~ finishes with a hook on the ego, while since you agree with these nice generalizations and you are watching this, you are very special, you are very high up and ready for all of this.

Ok, now ego is activated, I'm special, I'm chosen, I'm watching these videos.

Then it is like: YOU want to know truth right? Well then this is for you.

Second video ~ launches into names, numbers, very confusing speaking that literally NO ONE IN THE WORLD will really understand what is being said exactly.

However, ego is activated, we are special, this material is for special people. This is for people like me that want the truth right? Well then, fake it til u make it. We're confused but it sounds important, so we just feel instead it's great, she's wonderful etc. etc.

Mind control works exactly this way from my understanding. You state a commonly known fact, activate the ego with a compliment, then implant bizarre information in a confusing way.

Deception.

What is the take home message? Keep learning more in this endless circle of nothingness.

By the time we are done absorbing Anna Hayes materials we will most likely believe:

>You must evacuate the earth.
>ETs hold the highest spiritual truth.
>Humanities protector Archangel Michael is your enemy, connect to the ETs.
>Your personal ascension is determined by which ETs have access to stargates.
>You are lower than the ETs.
>Jesus was real, but he ran away from the cross in order to 'save his life' and another dude died on the cross for him.
>You can "activate DNA" to be more loving, rather than being more loving to be more loving!
>If only you keep reading these books over and over, buying the next one etc. you will finally 'get it'


And the take home lie: Truth is mental not spiritual. The power is outside of you, not inside of you and you have no hope of saving your planet, so leave when you get a chance.

To me this is up is down, black is white, spin us around, empty our pockets then set us out to the world to preach the message.

hollylindin
12-21-2009, 09:39 PM
I haven't started watching this, although I think Anna has a lot of great information and it should be a great watch.

But y'know how you'll sometimes go on YouTube, and the pink border will show up where your video's supposed to be, saying, "This video has removed by user", or, "This video has been removed due to copyright infringement", or whatever?

Well, there's a big, pink border across the top of the YouTube page (with an exclamation mark in a circle.) that reads above Anna's video, "Invalid arguments". This has happened to me once before on another video (about the giant humans that were around on Earth before us.), and it confused me 'cause I'd never seen such blatant attempts at thought-pressuring before. Anyone else getting this or have any information on why it may say that as some sort of error message?

<3

mntruthseeker
12-21-2009, 09:44 PM
Being a child of God, I do believe that I was born with special powers and that I was indeed very special

We have forgotten just how special we all are...............so now we must remember.

The power is within you...............not outside If you had listened to more than a few words you would of picked that up

It is not mental LOL its spriritual.............where did you get that ?


She is not spreading lies

14 Chakras
12-21-2009, 09:59 PM
As we climb the path of Truth, the test of discernment get more subtle.

No lie can be sold without having truth in it.

The higher you get, the more truth is sprinkled in with the lies, but the lies also get a little more nefarious.

So if Hayes material is helping us break through fear for the time being, maybe it is the right thing for us for now. Maybe the stuff that isn't so bad is helping us break through some of our illusions.

There is always More. So the key is non-attachment. At some point, we may outgrow a source of information and be ready for something more.

That's really the key.

Take it all with a big mountain of salt, and then when the Now comes, we will be ready to surrender the illusions we've absorbed into our energy fields from false teaching and come up higher in Self realization of the Truth that will set us free.

joe2288
12-21-2009, 10:01 PM
Love the video a deff must listen to :thumb_yello:

hollylindin
12-21-2009, 10:02 PM
Maybe the stuff that isn't so bad is helping us break through some of our illusions.

And maybe the stuff that seems horrible (ie. mass vaccinations, Barack's terrible job at being president, GMO's in our food, etc.) is fabulous, considering it's SO INSIDIOUS, it makes us wake up and take stock of who we REALLY are! I'm quite thankful for these "negative" things for that specific reason - that someone plays a "negative" role so one can play a positive role.

<3

14 Chakras
12-21-2009, 10:05 PM
And maybe the stuff that seems horrible (ie. mass vaccinations, Barack's terrible job at being president, GMO's in our food, etc.) is fabulous, considering it's SO INSIDIOUS, it makes us wake up and take stock of who we REALLY are! I'm quite thankful for these "negative" things for that specific reason - that someone plays a "negative" role so one can play a positive role.

<3

Well that's cause we're here in the school of hard knocks. It doesn't have to be this way. We can choose to awaken to our inner Divinity Now, without having the birth pains wake us up in a nasty way. It's all choice.

The less people awaken to who they really are beyond the matrix, the more birth pains will occur. Each one of us is a part of the solution when we raise our consciousness by moving beyond the mental, beyond the thinker and Being the I AM within...

Or, we can wait around and see what happens... not so pretty that way...

hollylindin
12-21-2009, 10:09 PM
Well that's cause we're here in the school of hard knocks. It doesn't have to be this way. We can choose to awaken to our inner Divinity Now, without having the birth pains wake us up in a nasty way. It's all choice.

You are totally right, 14 Chakras. And it's wonderful - we have so many people now who are grateful for all the world and all the world's everything, and I think that's a huge step. Instead of hating someone for trying to carry out a nefarious agenda, finding the beauty in it and the love in it, or even just SENDING that person loving energy - I think it helps SO MUCH.

I think the inner Divinity is being awoken every day - we are daily "recruiting", so to speak, more conscious and aware individuals to join in the blessing of independence and self-creation and unconditional love! So the positive energy people like you and I have been sending out is definitely helping.

<3

orthodoxymoron
12-21-2009, 10:19 PM
14 Chakras: Your posts on this thread should be read and re-read...and applied to everyone...not just to Anna Hayes. But are you especially critical of Hayes because she dumps on Archangel Michael? My present approach is to take a little from everyone...without having a particular guru...and that includes Jesus Christ. I don't think Jesus objects either. Rejecting the Divinity Within Humanity aka The Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin according to the words attributed to Jesus.

I just love listening to this lecture...but I have absolutely no idea if it's true...or if it's complete BS. The possibilites are enormous. The lecture causes me to think very deeply, and to use my imagination quite vividly. Could the Ark of the Covenant really be Nibiru (or the UFO we came here on)? Just a thought. Could the Ark of the Covenant be located in a Deep Underground Military Base? I will never undergo any initiations or programmings...other than studying, listening to music, and walking my dog in nature. The 12-strand stuff makes me nervous.

:original:Namaste:original:

hollylindin
12-21-2009, 10:38 PM
I will never undergo any initiations or programmings...

Agreed! That seems a little suspect to me as well.

<3

eleni
12-21-2009, 10:46 PM
Makes Tibetan Buddhism seem like nursery school.I thought those teachings were complicated.

orthodoxymoron
12-21-2009, 10:54 PM
If you can't convince 'em...confuse 'em. Remember the Tower of Babel?

:original:Namaste:original:

hollylindin
12-21-2009, 11:23 PM
If you can't convince 'em...confuse 'em.

That's probably the self-appointed "elite"'s motto. :P

<3

joe2288
12-21-2009, 11:56 PM
ok i am on part 13 confused how credible is this lady has neone listened to all

these parts

mntruthseeker
12-22-2009, 02:05 AM
ok i am on part 13 confused how credible is this lady has neone listened to all

these parts


I felt this way the first time only because I didnt understand all that she brought up

For instance.........the different strands of DNA, races, species and planets

Of course we were never taught any of this in school.

I rewatched these movies after reading the books and I'm able to follow.


I have listened to several of her videos, just going through with more understanding this time around

to some it may not be important but I am finding that it is filling in so much of my questions of how things work and what is happening and what is behind tptbs sick minds

mntruthseeker
12-22-2009, 03:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE2X5DRidw0

joe2288
12-22-2009, 03:46 AM
I felt this way the first time only because I didnt understand all that she brought up

For instance.........the different strands of DNA, races, species and planets

Of course we were never taught any of this in school.

I rewatched these movies after reading the books and I'm able to follow.


I have listened to several of her videos, just going through with more understanding this time around

to some it may not be important but I am finding that it is filling in so much of my questions of how things work and what is happening and what is behind tptbs sick minds

yea i made it to video 15, then my head almost exploded, I couldn't take

it all in information lol. So do you know if were part of the 11d sub universe or

the 12d main universe. Also i got to the part that talked about the 3 shifts we

were gonna experience, right before i turned it off, do you remember what she

said was gonna happen.

mntruthseeker
12-22-2009, 05:28 AM
are you talking about the waves ? From what I gather it is timelines when assension will be happening by masses

I hope that is what you mean

I have to put her books down at times because its just too much information but as I get further into the book I recall what she mentioned. So it all fits in but whoa.....hang on because she has alot to say.

She talks fast in her videos too because she knows she has much to say.


As alot of good book, you wonder why they have to add all of this and stuff just doesnt make sense until you reach the end..........or a good movie

She is trying to put in world history that is spanning over so much time

Especially when our minds have been brained washed for so many years

dolphin
12-22-2009, 05:46 AM
14 chakras,

just bec. she is presenting the "i" as "special" does not mean you're ego is inflated. to me WE are ALL GODS, the all that is is in every soul bec. we are all connected to source. you can't just make an assumption that she is presenting false info. give me concrete evidence otherwise. alex collier says we are all special, in fact says "we are royalty".

14 Chakras
12-22-2009, 08:00 AM
Please let me explain:

We are indeed very very very special. You are indeed very very very special. You are not some little human victim. You are a co-creator with all that IS. You are child of the most High. You are simply playing the role in a movie right now of being limited.. but now's the time to stop playing the victim and remember who we are beyond the Matrix, who we are in Oneness with the I AM within... The Divine Self awakens... this is what we are here for... a mass awakening in all of humanity and in ourselves to the God Power, Wisdom and Love within us Now.

I'm simply suggesting that while Anna "Hayes over our eyes" materials start out with some basic truths, then throw compliment that makes us feel maybe more special than others (which is wrong, because we are ALL Children of the most high), then goes on with ridiculous totally insane complex names and dates and numbers and science fiction and fills our head til it's ready to explode, but somehow makes us feel like we're learning something special, when really we're just learning a bunch of non-sense.

Spiritual Truth is what will set us free, is how we BE what Collier refers to as 'royalty'.

True royalty does not sit around and get pampered!!!! True royalty are leaders, they solve problems, they have great wisdom, they are connected to the source, they are One with the source.

The greatest among the galaxy are the greatest servants of All because they help awaken the greatness in all, the Divinity in All. They are not powerless, and they MOST CERTAINLY take dominion over their own planet and fix their own mess!!!

What I see, is the more we absorb Anna "Hayes over our eyes" materials more often than not we start preparing to evacuate the planet and somehow mistakenly come to believe that our own salvation is tied to some stargate science fiction story about which long named alien race has control of things...

The names she gives to these ET races are in my opinion totally ridiculous, spiritual words thrown together with ET species to make long sounding, totally meaningless, completely confusing versions of truth that are really just garbage filling up our energy field...

That's how I feel about it anyway!

Maybe "Melchizedic Alpha Omega Annunaki" etc. etc. etc. has some truth in it, I suggest it has less truth than CNN or Fox news and is specifically designed to sell more books, audio lectures etc. and completely confuse the **** out of us until we've basically given up all hope that us humans can connect to source and solve our own problems.


Show me one person who has read these books and spent a lot of time with them, that knows the reality, that humanity will indeed raise up our own planet and ALL LIFE ON IT (besides potentially the very most self centered) by connecting to the source within ourselves, and we will do it without ET interference / help.

Starlah
12-22-2009, 08:22 AM
Love it 14 Chakras...so much so I'm going to have to read what you have to say about Anna Hayes twice maybe thrice. I feel exactly the same way about all this gobbly gook.
Watch out for those "implants". They'll get you every time!
__________________________________________________ ___________
Humans must survive as a Species.......never relinquish to the Controllers
your personal freedom to dictate your own Destiny.

joe2288
12-22-2009, 03:12 PM
are you talking about the waves ? From what I gather it is timelines when assension will be happening by masses


Yes she might have said the waves. I was curious of whats your interpretation

of what she was talking about in the ascension process, who's gonna go ect...

Can i get a quick generalization of what she said thanks.

mntruthseeker
12-22-2009, 03:50 PM
[QUOTE=joe2288;207011]Yes she might have said the waves. I was curious of whats your interpretation

of what she was talking about in the ascension process, who's gonna go ect...

Can i get a quick generalization of what she said thanks.[/QUO


We hear many talk about timelines and explain certain events. She calls it the ascension cycle and it will be when earth will make its transition from the present fourth world to the fifth world of the Bridge Zone and Taran ascension time cycles. The timeline is 5/5/2000-2017..

This is absolutely no different than what the Hopi's express except she is giving a broader timeline. Its a time of cataclysmic events originally associated with the end times.

My impression of who will go will be those that are able to make the vibrational rymthm You must open your chakras in order to do so

She has so much written about all of this. She highly recommends meditation and I think its great that NorthernSantuary put down her lessons for us.

Sarahmay
12-22-2009, 04:00 PM
Show me one person who has read these books and spent a lot of time with them, that knows the reality, that humanity will indeed raise up our own planet and ALL LIFE ON IT (besides potentially the very most self centered) by connecting to the source within ourselves, and we will do it without ET interference / help.

These teachings are all about connecting to source and shaking off ET interference...but will ALL LIFE raise up? No. We are in a closed energy, vampiric system which tops out at 11.5 dimensions. The Freedom Teaching are a methodology to slide out of here, if that is your desire and you are willing to do the work. If not, then fine.

eleni
12-22-2009, 04:21 PM
If one does a little searching they can find some info relating to her taking off with people's money, predictions not coming true, unhappy former cult members etc;
What does anyone have to say about that? I like to put all the cards out on the table and go from there......

mntruthseeker
12-22-2009, 04:22 PM
These teachings are all about connecting to source and shaking off ET interference...but will ALL LIFE raise up? No. We are in a closed energy, vampiric system which tops out at 11.5 dimensions. The Freedom Teaching are a methodology to slide out of here, if that is your desire and you are willing to do the work. If not, then fine.


very nicely explained. I was just going to copy what I just read off another site that also relates to Anna's work

On Monday night, filmmaker, spiritual explorer, and scientist David Sereda talked about possible energy shifts coming around the time of 2012. By comparing the quantum universe (micro solar systems) to astronomical models, as well correlating Hopi prophecy, he's theorized there's going to be a massive energy shift, as our solar system crosses into another "galactic shell." After this shift, he believes the solar system will become lighter, both in weight and spiritual energy

So in a sense Anna is saying another reason of why we must higher our vibrational rythm. Anyhow it makes sense to me. You wont get this information out of the newspapers thats for sure.

Sarahmay
12-22-2009, 04:41 PM
If one does a little searching they can find some info relating to her taking off with people's money, predictions not coming true, unhappy former cult members etc;
What does anyone have to say about that? I like to put all the cards out on the table and go from there......

1. I believe there was a canceled event in 2000 or 2001 that some people lost money on.
2. She doesn't make predictions. However, timelines and probable outcomes have changed many times over the last ten years. Just about any whistleblower on Camelot will confirm this.
3. It is not a cult. Anna is hardly a charismatic leader...she is shy and has accepted this speaker role out of duty, but it is not pleasant for her. She is simply offering these teachings and workshops for those of us who wish to pursue the study. Period.

Stardustaquarion
12-22-2009, 06:36 PM
14 Chakras

I find it very interesting that you say that Anna Hayes says a pack of lies and you believe the pack of lies that since the 3 century self appointed "official" religions have forced humanity to have. As for arch angel michael, the bible itself does not mention the existence of ANY archangel... it only talks about angels as messengers, that is all

I guess that if you are saying that Anna Hayes lies you are going to explain to us how is it that you have arrived to such conclusions?

Saying that someone lies without proof or at least any logical deduction amounts to defamation...not very nice really

Fanaticism and victim consciousness is what keeps humanity trapped in a perpetual self destruction, what we need is logical research and understanding how creation happened, we need to remember who we are and where we came from...otherwise we fall victim of our own ignorace and fear

It seems that you are a follower of the I AM teachings, or "activity" as they call it, are you following the Summit Lighthouse teachings or the St Germain Foundation's green books?

Cheers

eleni
12-22-2009, 06:46 PM
As I said I remain open to the info- however that doesn't mean I buy it hook , line and sinker.....

I found this- are there any correlations?

WHAT IS A CULT?

Every cult can be defined as a group having all of the following characteristics:

1. It uses psychological coercion to recruit, indoctrinate and retain its members.. Special privilege for the leader and members because of the “chosen” status.

2. It forms an elitist totalitarian society.. Exclusive membership and a 'you’ll miss out if you don’t get involved' mentality.

3. Its founder leader is self-appointed, dogmatic, messianic, not accountable and has charisma

4. Divine instruction coming from a deity source, only given to that particular group usually through channeling or 'divine inspiration'.

5. It believes 'the end justifies the means' in order to solicit funds and recruit people

6. Channeled or divinely inspired messages to save / help mankind.

7. Groups can change / stop future cataclysmic (i.e. floods, earthquakes, etc) events .

8. Repetitious appeals /prayers/ incantations recited daily.

9. Group is usually named such as (i.e. Heavens Gate, Branch Davidians, The Core Council)

10. Initiates will receive protection from deities / alien races if they maintain membership in the group and do as instructed by the leader

11. Its wealth does not benefit its members or society

Due to the instinct for truth in human nature, absolute lies are not as effective as some people think. With half-truths and quarter-truths, on the other hand, you can make people believe almost anything.

mntruthseeker
12-22-2009, 06:59 PM
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Sarahmay
12-22-2009, 08:16 PM
As I said I remain open to the info- however that doesn't mean I buy it hook , line and sinker.....

I found this- are there any correlations?

WHAT IS A CULT?

Every cult can be defined as a group having all of the following characteristics:

1. It uses psychological coercion to recruit, indoctrinate and retain its members.. Special privilege for the leader and members because of the “chosen” status.

2. It forms an elitist totalitarian society.. Exclusive membership and a 'you’ll miss out if you don’t get involved' mentality.

3. Its founder leader is self-appointed, dogmatic, messianic, not accountable and has charisma

4. Divine instruction coming from a deity source, only given to that particular group usually through channeling or 'divine inspiration'.

5. It believes 'the end justifies the means' in order to solicit funds and recruit people

6. Channeled or divinely inspired messages to save / help mankind.

7. Groups can change / stop future cataclysmic (i.e. floods, earthquakes, etc) events .

8. Repetitious appeals /prayers/ incantations recited daily.

9. Group is usually named such as (i.e. Heavens Gate, Branch Davidians, The Core Council)

10. Initiates will receive protection from deities / alien races if they maintain membership in the group and do as instructed by the leader

11. Its wealth does not benefit its members or society

Due to the instinct for truth in human nature, absolute lies are not as effective as some people think. With half-truths and quarter-truths, on the other hand, you can make people believe almost anything.

Yes, clearly a few of those apply, like divine instruction. Mainstream Christianity meets most of them. I'm not buying any Nikes.

Stardustaquarion
12-22-2009, 10:23 PM
I guess none of you have really studied the work and have no experience with the workshops. What I say below is my personal impression with regard to Asha and Keylontic Sciences

To my knowledge Asha has never claimed that she is the only one receiving information from the Guardian Alliance in this planet. She has mentioned in many opportunities that the Guardian Alliance has other people which work and help them in this planet. She has said herself that she does not know those other people. It is my own understanding that it is the case and there are other people in direct contact with the Guardian Alliance

Asha has also said that the information once it is realeased in Earth's grids can be picked up by anybody that can do so. I myself have had the experience of picking up information that later on gets confirmed by a workshop or even the news. Of course, she is so much better at putting these thing together in a coherent way

There is no recruitment program, you get to them because one stumbles on their website or finds something, like a illegally uploaded video in youtube or because you feel the calling that comes from the inner planes

The azurite press is not elitist, everyone is treated equally well and with respect

There are no faith dogmas, all information is given and it is up to oneself to decide, there is no pressure at all because each one individually is responsible for its own evolution

No one solicites funds, donations etc. The workshops are not compulsory and even with the DVD's is up to the person whether they buy them or not. Unlike with other groups that force you to buy previous material with the Azuritepress there are no restrictions, you can buy the last DVD if that works for you or go to the last workshop should you choose. Whether you understand or not the information depends on your DNA activation really.

It does not promote "the end justify the means" doctrine... it is the opposite, utmos respect for the free will of others

It does not claim that can change the future of the planet, we have been told that the energies come to it whether we want them or not, they are part of the stellar activation cycle and the energetic war we are entangled in as Universe. We as conscious beings can help yes but it is a personal choice

Activations for the Indigos come the same way but I must say that it is easier to go through them if you have the techniques.

No protection is offered to anyone, each have to take responsibility whether they use techniques or not, no one expects anyone to do prayers etc, if you do them it is your choice and because there is an understanding of the benefits that may have in onself. All that is given is suggestions

In my experience these teachings actually reconect you in a safe way with parts of yourself and teachers that are beyond the 12 dimenssion.

I have been around for a while and have came across many cults in my quest for freedom, starting with the catholic chrurch, gnostics, scientology, st germain, archangel michael, light body studies, teosophy, lucis trust and many more, read gazilions of book, and spent countless hours watching videos in youtube and other sites; no one has been able to give answers to my questions except keylontic sciences. I make very good questions and always want to know all that can be known.

This is my personal experience and if I bother to share it is because I believe that if you know the truth it sets you free. I have enough love in my heart to desire the freedom I am enjoying for others, should they chose to explore this avenue, and it will be a pitty that those who have no knowledge missguide others that are seeking truth. All that we do and think in life has consequences for us in a positive or negative way

Keylontic sciences have change my life by pointing me in the direction in which I get freer and freer every day by learning how to be a conciouss creator myself and take responsibility for my creations and my energy fields

Well I have said my peace

Love

NorthernSanctuary
12-22-2009, 10:52 PM
It's good to see so many comments.

I found the information interesting because it presented an area of information that i've not seen before and was missing in my understanding. Each one needs to assess its usefulness and truth according to their own inner knowing and experience. It is always good to start with an unbiased view if one wants to see the Truth clearly.

/NS

Sarahmay
12-23-2009, 02:17 PM
I guess none of you have really studied the work and have no experience with the workshops. What I say below is my personal impression with regard to Asha and Keylontic Sciences

To my knowledge Asha has never claimed that she is the only one receiving information from the Guardian Alliance in this planet. She has mentioned in many opportunities that the Guardian Alliance has other people which work and help them in this planet. She has said herself that she does not know those other people. It is my own understanding that it is the case and there are other people in direct contact with the Guardian Alliance

Asha has also said that the information once it is realeased in Earth's grids can be picked up by anybody that can do so. I myself have had the experience of picking up information that later on gets confirmed by a workshop or even the news. Of course, she is so much better at putting these thing together in a coherent way

There is no recruitment program, you get to them because one stumbles on their website or finds something, like a illegally uploaded video in youtube or because you feel the calling that comes from the inner planes

The azurite press is not elitist, everyone is treated equally well and with respect

There are no faith dogmas, all information is given and it is up to oneself to decide, there is no pressure at all because each one individually is responsible for its own evolution

No one solicites funds, donations etc. The workshops are not compulsory and even with the DVD's is up to the person whether they buy them or not. Unlike with other groups that force you to buy previous material with the Azuritepress there are no restrictions, you can buy the last DVD if that works for you or go to the last workshop should you choose. Whether you understand or not the information depends on your DNA activation really.

It does not promote "the end justify the means" doctrine... it is the opposite, utmos respect for the free will of others

It does not claim that can change the future of the planet, we have been told that the energies come to it whether we want them or not, they are part of the stellar activation cycle and the energetic war we are entangled in as Universe. We as conscious beings can help yes but it is a personal choice

Activations for the Indigos come the same way but I must say that it is easier to go through them if you have the techniques.

No protection is offered to anyone, each have to take responsibility whether they use techniques or not, no one expects anyone to do prayers etc, if you do them it is your choice and because there is an understanding of the benefits that may have in onself. All that is given is suggestions

In my experience these teachings actually reconect you in a safe way with parts of yourself and teachers that are beyond the 12 dimenssion.

I have been around for a while and have came across many cults in my quest for freedom, starting with the catholic chrurch, gnostics, scientology, st germain, archangel michael, light body studies, teosophy, lucis trust and many more, read gazilions of book, and spent countless hours watching videos in youtube and other sites; no one has been able to give answers to my questions except keylontic sciences. I make very good questions and always want to know all that can be known.

This is my personal experience and if I bother to share it is because I believe that if you know the truth it sets you free. I have enough love in my heart to desire the freedom I am enjoying for others, should they chose to explore this avenue, and it will be a pitty that those who have no knowledge missguide others that are seeking truth. All that we do and think in life has consequences for us in a positive or negative way

Keylontic sciences have change my life by pointing me in the direction in which I get freer and freer every day by learning how to be a conciouss creator myself and take responsibility for my creations and my energy fields

Well I have said my peace

Love

Thank you--and I do very much agree with your point of view. What I have found with the Freedom Teachings is ANSWERS.

14 Chakras
12-24-2009, 01:15 AM
If at this stage in the game, this is where we are guided to be, and we are most definitely becoming more loving to our neighbors, becoming more consicous of our energy and creations, surrendering our own darkness and ego, and we are connecting to our own Divine spark within our hearts, then it really doesn't matter what materials were reading, because we're on the path of Oneness, the path of moving beyond the ego and into the reality of who we are as a Co-Creator with the infinite rather than a victim here in the matrix.

My personal discernment is very strong on this one, while I'm not suggesting Anna Hayes is herself a liar, I am suggesting that the ET's that abducted her and taught her this information have their own agenda's and illusions and that what is being taught is full of many untruths.

I am suggesting that this material is designed to in part trap us in the mental realm with a bunch of numbers, facts and figures that are not truth, and for many will hinder us from connecting to inner truth rather than helping us. That's my discernment.

Stardust, you asked me whether I am a follower of a couple of movements, the answer is no I'm not nor have I ever been.

I have connected to the reality of the Ascended Hosts, the spiritual realm beyond duality, the realm of Pure Being, where solutions will flow down to humanity here in the 3rd. After connecting to this reality, I have read some of the books from the I AM activity (from Guy Ballard) and Mark and Elizabeth Claire Prophet's books (ones from 1989 and prior), and I must say, there is infinitely more truth in those materials than in these teachings, as controversial as that may sound.

What I have personally learned on teh search for truth, is not to judge by outer appearances, rather to connect to the inner truths.

As someone in another thread pointed out, Saint Germain is cool, it's often those who talk the talk that are not representative of the inner message.

I have clearly seen how all organizations have been tainted by the duality consicousness, by the ego, by the darkness, and there is no organization or teaching that will enable someone to ascend or come up higher, rather it is an inner journey.

Opening chakras and DNA, will happen naturally at the right time for those that connect to the reality of unconditional love and move beyond the thinker and into their hearts.

Forcing the opening of chakras or activation of DNA is trying to take the kingdom of heaven by force, and it is the false way that will not lead to passing schoolroom earth. There is only one way to pass ~ Self realization and taking back our Power, realizing we've co-created this mess we find ourselves in and it's our job to fix it and bring abundance to it as things are meant to Be.

We'll do so, when we do the hard work on ourselves, and surrender our own darkness, shine the Light on our own unconsciousness and dwellers so that All is transformed into consciousness, into Light.

I do indeed find it to be backwards, very unhealthy teachings that the Elohim are aliens, that the Ascended Masters are 'collectives' of aliens and they are all basically fallen to one degree or another, so we have to connect to the "Guardians" which is simply another ET group that is involved in all this supposed stargate endless war nonesense, for our salvation.

I also choose to look beyond the story that the Vatican presented of Jesus, and into the inner Truth of his message: The kingdom of heaven / enlightenment is inside of you, at hand here and Now. Those who take up their cross (darkness, troubles etc), walk it up the hill of consciousness and surrender their ego on the cross as Jesus did, who give up the ghost, will Be reborn in consciousness as Jesus so often described and Be below all that they are above.

I understand it is too much of a stretch for many not to throw the Christ baby out with the bathwater when they learn that what churches who claim to represent his message are in fact teaching dis-empowerment and lies. However, I choose to take the Middle Way and seek the inner, esoteric truth that will set us Free, rather than the black and white approach.

I have no doubt whatsoever that beyond duality, beyond the wars and ET's and material realms, is the realms where we are truly from, what is referred to as Heaven here. In these higher realms of Pure Being, there is infinite diversity, there is no longer the illusion that war will solve problems, there are solutions for all of humanities problems, and there are the many cosmic conscious Beings, including the True Elohim, Archangels, and True Ascended Hosts who are the schoolroom teachers for planet Earth and the real reason why the many alien races (like I would suggest the Guardian group is), have not been able to show up here and mislead humanity into another billion years of slavery ~

Heaven is coming to Earth, Light is coming to Earth Now, and it will come through those who choose to BE!

We're all on the same team here I believe, we're here to help humanity through this transition, minimize the birth pains of a New Earth and allow the Light to shine on the darkness.

Truth is Love.

~ Espavo ~

Moxie
12-24-2009, 01:40 AM
14 Chakras... I have just completed reading the introductory chapters in Voyagers I wherein she explains how it is that she came into this knowledge. Perhaps you might read it for yourself!

It is all good for you to have questions, to wonder about how Ashayana arrived to where she is, but for you to write "that you are suggesting that her material is designed to in part trap us in the mental realm with a bunch of numbers, facts and figures that are not truth, and for many will hinder us from connecting to inner truth rather than helping us. That's my discernment" <<< that is not discernment because you have NOT READ any of her work to exercise the need for it.

You are stating things out of ignorance of her work. This topic is called: Anna Hayes Earth History. You taking the time to defend your own beliefs here is off topic.

I am very appreciative of those writing in here that have actual experience to offer. They are being very kind & giving to do so.

14 Chakras
12-24-2009, 02:18 AM
Hi Moxie, just answering a question or two that was posed to me in this thread.

In fairness, Forums are public, not one sided. We should hear all sides of a story before making our own free will decision about what teachings we wish to accept as truth.

In fairness, although I've not read that book, I've read quite a bit of her teachings online, I've watched some of the movies, I've discussed opinions with those who consider themselves to be Hayes students and I'm sharing my discernment.

Here are some basic Truths that I believe Hayes material teaches very incorrectly on; I suggest:

Archangel Michael is indeed the reason the internet is still free and we are able to have this conversation. He is not a collective, rather he is Archangel Michael. The Ascended Hosts are not collectives, they are not aliens, and they were not created by aliens.

I find these teachings about AA Michael especially dangerous nefarious considering we are indeed headed for a time when people will need to connect to spiritual protection, which AA Michael is, to make it through these birth pains and protect ourselves from negative entities.

Jesus Christ was a Master that walked the planet (among others) and did let his body die on the cross, only to show up three days later and prove that there is no death for those who choose Life beyond the illusions of the carnal mind, the human ego. Hayes teachings say Jesus was a teacher, but he ran away from the cross and let some other guy die on the cross for him. Not in agreement on that one!

The Elohim are Suns, solar systems, builders of form, not aliens. They are Spiritual Beings in Oneness with All that IS and we are literally have our Being in their consciousness ~ :)

Humanity is created by the spirit of the Elohim, by the breath of the Elohim, in the image of the Elohim.

We are also unconditional Love Beings in Oneness with our source.

We are spiritual Beings, created by unconditional Love spiritual Beings, who are not aliens, who do not have galactic bureaucracy's and who do not have wars over star gates.

Beyond all of these stargates, technical terms, and talk about 12 dimensions and the battles going on in them (which I suggest there are 6 material dimensions, each with pockets in them that some aliens choose to call dimensions ~ more on that here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16911), beyond all that duality, there is spiritual Truth that is Oneness, that is the Ascended Hosts and the Elohim, and our own Divine Spark, what some call the I AM within.

Realms where wars do not exist, UFOs are not required transportation, the spiritual Realms of Pure Being, I suggest that's where we need to connect to Now to bring forth solutions to the problems we are facing now.

I am suggesting the Guardian group working with Anna Hayes, is another ET group trying to get our attention so they get our energy rather than giving us the Truth that will set us free, and even if they did want to give us truth, they in their spaceships and fighting their endless wars do not have Truth themselves or they would not require spaceships, abductions, and technology to Be, or to communicate their message.

Regardless, to each his own and as we come into our heart center, we will find the Way to a New Earth.

mntruthseeker
12-24-2009, 03:15 AM
When I first started reading what you wrote Chakras, I was quite impressed until you mention the vatican teachings and the story of Jesus

Can you tell me which stories of the Vatican you are discerning ? You are a very bright person that I'm sure have done much reading.

I have done so much reading in the last few years that my mind sometimes feels like exploding. I have had so many questions after listening to some vrey intelligent men & women that have studied for over 30 years. Of course you have to weed through the BS but you still end up with questions. One of mine was why were all these stories of Jesus so different ?

Anna's answer to me put all of it to rest. I resonate it so well that when I read what she had written.

I just want you to know that she doesnt claim that Jesus ran away and let another be crucified in his place. That is not at all what she wrote

Nothing she wrote changes my love for the one we call Jesus Christ and her words never insinuated that she had anything but high regards for Him herself

I am so happy that I am reading her work and that it resonates with me and I do feel that I am on the same path as others.

The vatican teachings have never been honest as far as I can tell. Its been nothing more than fear tactic and lies to keep us in line. Soon the world will know how and people will be running trying to find some other form of religion as far as they can from the teachings they give us. Thats a shame because people should realize that God is within all of us and we need not look outside ourself. That is what the man we know as Jesus came to tell us.

cloud9
12-24-2009, 03:23 AM
I listened to these videos a few months ago and I did it several times (which is a great feat, trust me). After some pondering about all what she says, in my heart it was very clear: what's the use for soooo much information with all those numbers and names when you clearly can say the same in a much much understandable manner? I personally don't believe we need to know that 18'835.452 years ago the xxxxx race did this or that, when at the end and for all purposes saying 18 million it's more than enough?
What I'm trying to say is that somehow it sounds fake to me, NOBODY else so far has been able to determine how many years ago the pyramids were built and we are talking about some 12.000 to 30.000 years ago, not even when Atlantis was destroyed or the date of the Great Flood, how come she knows all those dates exactly when talking about million of years ago?
Now, I'm not saying her information is BS but being very honest I'd rather read Conversations with God several times that just one of her books, and the only reason I state that is because Conversations with God is clear, enlightening and very entertaining and her message is very complicated perhaps for a reason.
Well, I do respect what everybody says and thinks but this one didn't resonate with me.
I'm asking to somebody who has read the books to please comment how she says she got this information? I guess is from the ETs but which ones?
Thank you.

mntruthseeker
12-24-2009, 05:42 AM
It says that she was trained by the Melchizedek Cloister Priest of Ur.


She was trained by The Guardian Alliance which main task was to increase security in our Time Matrix when the Annu-Elohim fallen Angelic Legions created the Anunnaki race line 568 million years ago to destroy the Oraphin-Angelic Human lineage and reaces of the Emerald Covenant. Specializes in propagation of the Emerald Covenant and serves as the governing body of over 10 million Emerald Covenant Star League Nations within the 4 Densities of matter in our Time Matrix

The GA represents a smaller, specialized group, and primary task force, within a greater Guardian Organization called the Inter-dimensional Associations of Free Worlds IAFW created 568 million years ago after the Angelic Wars

All the Guardian races on Earth are considered Amenti races.

Some other members of the GA include:

The regal Lyran-Sirian Whites,
The Aethien
The Rhanthunkeana (Rhantia)
The Breneau - advance beings from the highest dimensional worlds
The Queventelliur
The Turaneusiams
Plus many others.


All of these are considered guardians and are truly here to help us against the Intruders.

I really don't have time for all that she puts in her book, but possibly others might. I happen to think there are some that it does mean something to.

14 Chakras
12-24-2009, 05:59 AM
We all have buttons in our energy field. When they get pushed, we stop listening and shut down to any possible way of viewing things that is not in our current mental box.

For example, as soon as the word Jesus is used, people often shut down into black and white thinking, either his story is a total lie, or you are a fundamentalist christian.

Please note in my description above, I said I choose to look BEYOND the lies that the Vatican myth created around Jesus being the only son of god who is a blood sacrifice for humanity.

I choose to look at his inner message, what he actually said: that we have co-created our suffering by not heeding the still small voice within, and when we overcome the carnal mind, and are reborn in Oneness with the Father / Mother within we will bring the abundant Life back to Earth as it is meant to Be.

Maybe re-read what I said after that instead of letting the button Jesus or the word Vatican (which I'm saying corrupted Jesus true message from day 1) stop us from giving another point of a view a fair shake.

Now according to the other thread we have going on right now about this ladies teachings, in the Voyagers II book she says that there are a bunch of Jesus's, and the one that taught went and ran away with his girlfriend while the other poor guy who didn't teach got killed on the cross, not to resurect and prove there is no death.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16748&page=2

She also says elsewhere that Jesus is from Sananda, which I suggest is about as crappy a new age movement lie as you can possibly get, Sananda the channeling crappy entity that is Ashtar's best buddy, and spent plenty of channellings back in the day about evacuating the earth etc.

Once again, I suggest that these ET races (who I would say their existence is dubious at best) and this dualistic mental story that this woman presents, while the part of us that likes science fiction may enjoy it, are not who we need to connect to now to help raise up our planet.

Rather I suggest that what is required is we need to do is connect to spiritual Truth from the Ascended realm, the realms of Pure BEing, the True Ascended Hosts who are in no way aliens, and connect to our own Divine spark within in order to raise up our planet at this time.

Heaven is coming to Earth through US, not through a bunch of ET's claiming to have the highest truth, when in reality, there just other students in the universe, often more trapped in their own deceptions than we are.

mntruthseeker
12-24-2009, 06:16 AM
Ok, I understand what you meant regarding the Vatican



Under the direction of Azurites of the RA Confederacy, in 12 BC, the 12 level avatar, a pure Taran Turaneusiam - 1 soul essence was born outside of Bethlehem In a private residence to a Blue Flame Melchizekek-Hebrew Essene mother and a Blue Flame Melchizedek-Hibiru Cloister Essene father. It was NOT an Immaculate Conception, but rather orchestrated via traditional means through a couple chosen and prepared by the Priest of Ur. His mothers name was Jeudi, his father Joehius: both were leaders within the Blue Flame Melchizedek Essene sect. The child’s soul essence was born of the JU 2 Avatar SANANDO and the child was named Jesheua-Melchizedek (herein Jesheua-12_ who later became known as Jesus, son of Mary and Joseph. The personages of Mary and Joseph were not the parents of this avatar child, they were the parents of a ninth-level-avatar soon to follow. Jesheua-12 was born to descendants of the house of Solomon, and taken in infancy into the custody of the Priest of Ur

In greater sense, Jesheua12 became the savior for the races, for thought his birth the Halls of Amenti could once again be opened.

Jeshewua-9 was married to Mary Magdalene and they had three children (he was the Elohim exiled Jeshewua ) they were sent to France to avoid political persecutions when he was 32 . Then the Elohim who had more or less brained washed another man named Annu-Melchizedek through a series of visions believed he was the true Jeshewua -9. He was the one crucified not either of the two true avatars This was to protect Jeshewua 9 and his family

The resurrection was holographic blue beam to continue to protect the identity of Jeshewua-9

Jesheua 12 had six daughters by six women and he had no part of their upbringing nor as a husband to any of their mothers The children were created through sacred procreative rites for the sole purpose of perpetuating the 12 strand DNA pattern within the human races. Descendants of these children became spread throughout various regions, some appearing within the French, Aristocracies, others within the Celtic, Egyptian and African generic lines. Of the six daughters, five of them survived to bring the 12 strand DNA lineage into the contemporary human gene pool. The lineage of Jeshewua 9s three children also prospered and spread throughout various nations to the present day. In his later years Jeshewua 9 travels to Tibet, where, with the help of the Elohim, he ascended out of matter in 47Ad to HU3 thought the portions of Tara morphogenetic field stored within the planetary core of Venus. (this ascension passage requires a tenth-strand DNA imprint and is thus not available to most humans, without direct assistance and DNA reconstruction by the Elohim, Azureites or other HU2 guardian groups

The teachings of Jesheua-12 were highly censored by Templar Melchizedeks who later came into polical-prominence and were kept alive through the secret mystery schools that evolved throughout Europe, Egypt, the Middle East and in certain parts of China and Indonesia. The teachings of Jesheua-12 were originally included in the manuscripts that became the Christian Bible, but were distorted or edited entirely at various times, to suit the needs of the power elite within the evolving political religious machines. Eventually the teachings were banned by the early Christian churches, for they disclosed the identity and tactics of the Elohim and other ET groups and told of the divisions within the Melchizedek Templar Creed. Very few of the original remnants of these teachings secretly preserved in France, that will one day be discovered The original teachings of Jeshewua 9 were also distorted and misrepresented by the same group

Jeshua -12 left through the Arc of Covenant at 39 years of age in 27 AD. He did not die, but rather bodily ascended to Tara, and has since evolved far beyond the confines of physical matter. The Arc of the Covenant was resealed within the UHF bands of D-3 following his ascension, awaiting the time when Earths grid rose high enough in vibration to allow for the return of the Sphere of Amenti, which was scheduled to occur before the mass ascension wave of 2017 AD The Azurite Council, Interdimensional Ass, of Free Worlds and their many supporters maintained

I really hope I do not get in trouble for putting all this out. This is exactly word for word of what she writes.

I dont see where Jesus ran away. I have read alot about the Melchizedek lineage which Jesus was associated with along with Princess Dianna and why she was killed carrying a Jewish baby.

THE eXchanger
12-24-2009, 06:51 AM
i orig. put up some of her videos;
without actually watching them

however, someone flipped this to look at,
that is why, i never particpated in the thread

first ~ i think everything is a hybrid mix of one kind or another
and, there are many 'grail lines' NOT just one or two

however, the keywords (are interesting)

here's what she posted:
(as her definition)
in between the stars

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1) Lyra-Sirius A Anuhazi (Elohei-Elohim Emarald Order Feline-Hominid)

2) Sirius B Azurite Yani (Elohei-Elohim Feline-Hominid, Seraphei Avian-hominid and Bra-ha-Rama Inyu Cetacean), and

3) Pleiadian Serres (Density-2 Seraphei Avian-hominid).

The Oraphim were seeded 568 million years ago on Density-3 Sirius B, Procyon, Orion-Mintaka and Gaia and Density-2 Sirius B, Pleiadian-Alcyone, Altair and Tara to begin creation of the Angelic Human lineage.

A group of Oraphin were further hybridized with the Azurite Yani race of Sirius B, to create the Maharaji lineage of Sirius B, the progenitors of the Christiac Maji-Indigo Child Grail Line on Earth.

One branch of the Maharaji Azurite-Oraphin human race line of Tara became the Mechizedek Cloister Priests of Ur Grail Line family, who became members of the Azurite Templar Security Team.

(Voyagers II – Page 266)

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my comments

This sounds like a 'google keyword' bonanza

eXtreme labelling at its best - in fact, i don't think,
i've ever seen anyone utilise so many

why ???

well let's see

The Oraphim ~ i've never encounted

lyra - i have heard of

sirius -i have heard of, but normally sirius a/b or X

elohim - i have heard of / and, she created another new form of it

feline - i have heard of cat people

hominid - refers to a great ape / or an X box character

emarald orer - never heard of

Azurite - type of stone

Yani - never heard of , a singer yes, an et race ?

Seraphei ???

however Seraphim, lat. seraph[us], pl. seraphi[m]) is one of a class of celestial beings mentioned once in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh or Old Testament), ...
or just plain
Seraph

she spells hers different ~ why ???

Avian ? bird / however isn't that race called carian

Bra-ha-Rama ??? never heard of this (although it rings of ra) (and, other ancient words)

Inyu ~ sounds like something out of a game of Yu-Gi-Oh

Cetacean - i have heard of (whale/dolphin beings)

Pleiadian - i have heard of

Serres ~ never heard of this
but, Serres (Σέρρες) is a city , the capital of the prefecture Seres or Serrai (Greek : Νομός Σερρών Nomos Serron) located in east northeastern Macedonia .

doesn't mention sirius A / or sirius X

Procyon is(α CMi / α Canis Minoris / Alpha Canis Minoris) is the brightest star

Orion - heard of these

Mintaka ~ a hot star system
or, Mintaka Pass - aka Minteke Pass) (el. 4709 m./15450 ft.) is a mountain pass in the Karakorum Mountains, between Pakistan and Xinjiang in China

Gaia or mother earth

Pleiadian-Alcyone ~ brightest star / and, light library are here

Density-2 ???

Density-3 ???

i'd have to see; her idea of a density / or, a dimension
to make a comment, on that

Altair ~ know this star "The Flying Eagle"

Tara ~ which one ???

it's at this part, that, i got to laugh

is she trying to re_label or re_invent everything

so many of these long garbled names, etc.,

lead to her website ???

the keywords are really something else

and, on the same page

Maharaji lineage

progenitors of the Christiac Maji-Indigo Child Grail Line on Earth.

didn't we have one of those progenitor guys poke his head
into avalaon, and, depart rather quickly

and, then, this

Mechizedek Cloister Priests of Ur Grail Line family,
who became members of the Azurite Templar Security Team.

(Voyagers II – Page 266)

we are aware of these three orders

is - melz order
el - elohim order
ra - metatron order

got to say, it sure is an interesting google keyword
bonanza

what do the rest of you think ???

ps; i've NOT studied her work - so; i don't know about that

from the little i watched in the 1st video - she did seem quite aware/and, awake

and, even understood; i think, there can be 1 / 2 or 3 matriXes

i am curious

Stardustaquarion
12-24-2009, 12:14 PM
14 Chakras

I have said my peace and don't intent to do a tit for tat but, I have read all the books of Guy Ballard and the Prophets (Church Universal and Triumphant) and also done all the material suggested by Keylontic Sciences up to sliders 5, which you don't know anything about yet

My informed opinion between the I AM activity, the Ballards, Mr. & Mrs. Prophet, Arch fallen angel Michael and Keylontic Sciences is a follows:

The difference between the first lot and Keylontic Sciences is that the I AM Activity and the Prophets Church books are based on the Metatronic daisy of dead sciences, based on the bi-veca that can not face and spark therefore can not create energy. It is a base 7 dimensions and not the natural 12. It totally excludes as "mystery" that we don't have to know cos it is privy of the monad, the fact that we are not only monads but avatars, dimensions 10 to 12, we are also Rishis and we have a family of consciousness that is beyond the 15 dimension which is the Kryst family

Of course the point of breaking was the monadic reversal that the fallen angels did to cut themselves off from the all oneness

It ignores the fact that Kryst or Krysthala is a word derived from the first sound of creation Ka-Ra-Ya-Sa-Ta-Ha-La

They promote seeking God and help outside of self worshipping deities and self proclaimed ascended masters which are "channeled" by Guy Ballard and Mr and Mrs Profet ONLY everyone else is WRONG and will burn in HELL

To those self proclaimed ascended masters the person has to do prayers and recitation all day long, just like any church (or worse) in order to reprogram them into thoughtless sheep

They condemn us as sinners in need of purification just like the church

Arch fallen angel Michel collective, are of the Anunnaki defender group created by the fallen Anu Elohim to destroy the Human Angels. There are no arch angels in the Bible and if you were aware of what they are doing to the planet with their turnstiles system you will run a mile...a million miles. The word Arch is related to arches of energy no divine status (How do I know, I now have partial re-incarnation memory and was there when it all happened)

I DONE all their suggested practices and THEY DONT WORK

They don't explain anything about anything, just patronize us by saying "do as you are told" we will sort it for you, how disempowering is that
They advise us to say I Am THAT ...outside yourself...giving your power away when we should be saying I AM THIS inside myself...small subtle difference but powerful indeed

We don't need more faked gods, we need to recognized we are all god, brothers and sisters that if we unite in our intention certainly can change the dark destiny that your deities a preparing for us

We can not be outside of god because we are inside it, that is the reason god is everywhere, in every partiki, partika, particum, keylonta, morphogenetic field, quarck etc. God is the substance of creation and not a man sitting on a chair sending thuntherbolts to us in punishment

To say that something is better than something else without taking the trouble of investigating it is rather irresponsible, specially when you are trying to dissuade people of exploring the material by putting a veil of ill intended disinformation You give no valid reasons other than you don't like ETs

When I started studying keylontic sciences my life changed, my body started to heal, I overcomed the fibromyalgia that plagued me since I started "Arch fallen angel Michael" and their cohorts practices, my financial situation improved and more than anything I am happy now, I am at peace now, I am whole now and don't have to bow and praise any one but myself...cos I am free now

Guess why, because I stopped giving my power and energy away. It is a no brainer

I know you are going to be angry with me (and perhaps many others, the truth normally makes you rather un-popular) and it will be all to easy to ignore you but, i am guided to do this for the sake of fairness to others and to say that the I AM activity, Mr. & Mrs. Prophet, self proclaimed ascended masters and arch fallen angel michael in my opinion are a total brainwash, specially with the constant repetition of their mantras....telling about programing...

The good news is that I found out that the damage can be reversed by much less effort with Keylontic Sciences unless you have gone full metatronic of course (in other words killed the god seed in you thymuss gland)

All that we do has consequences...this is a equal interchange of energy universe, there is free will but also a price to pay for every wrong choice that we make. That is the reason why we are in such a pittiful state of disempowerment...our very own wrong choices. God, i prefer to call it the All Oneness, does not punish anyone, who punish you is your own DNA by the distorssion that we create with our own wrong choices...even human sciences has discovered that, you can research Bruce Lipton

With love and my best wishes in this festival of lights for all

PS by the way Guy Ballard died, and Mrs Profet has Alzheimer...I guess their practices did not worked for them either...

Stardustaquarion
12-24-2009, 12:30 PM
Knowledge is freedom

http://www.azuritepress.com/techniques/attitudes_responsibilities.html


Introduction:
Part of the process of Spiritual Integration of our Higher Selves or Expansion of our Consciousness involves "re-programming" the way we think. Our thoughts create our reality and the life experience we have on the inside and the outside of us. The following Attitudes and Responsibilities, when embodied and "lived" will help to change our thought patterns. Thoughts that we simply take for granted because they are part of the programming we currently carry. Changing the thought patterns is actually changing the programming in the personal shields.


Twelve Attitudes of Mastery - Dance for Life 2002*

1. LOVE — Recognition of the TRUTH of the ALL-ONE-ness

2. GRACE —Allowing the ALL-ONE-ness to Be what IT IS regardless of whether it suits you. Living Perpetual Forgiveness.

3. GRATITUDE — Appreciating the ALL-ONE-ness; knowing your Alive-ness.

4. REVERENT - RESPECT— Acknowledging and giving to the ALL-ONE-ness.

5. RESPONSIBILITY — Co-Creating with, Serving and being able to Respond to
the ALL-ONE-ness.

6. TRUST — Knowing the Power and Love of the ALL-ONE-ness.

7. ACCOUNTABILITY — Being in a state of TRUTH with the ALL-ONE-ness.

8. IMPECCABILITY — Upholding and Protecting the ALL-ONE-ness.

9. MINDFULNESS — Loving, Nurturing, and Being Attentive to the ALL-ONE-ness.

10. FEARLESSNESS — Recognizing the Eternal Infinite Nature and Unconditional Love of the ALL-ONE-ness.

11. ENGAGED DETACHMENT — Permitting the ALL-ONE-ness to BE without assigning Critique, Condemnation or Value Judgment; understanding the IS-ness of and Validating the ALL-ONE-ness.

12. JOY — Choosing to BE the embodied ALL-ONE-ness.







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Twelve Responsibilities of Mastery - Dance for Love 2002


Study the 12 Responsibilities of Mastery, make an affirmation meditation out of them, and try to make them your way of life.

SELF-ACTUALIZATION: Freedom from the "Victim-Victimizer Blame-Game" and willingness to be accountable for all perceivable manifestations as direct projections of intended learning from the personal Consciousness/DNA Template.

SELF-SOVEREIGNTY: Freedom from the need for approval from, or the need to rebel against any form of "external authority" through understanding that you, as a manifestation of the God Spirit, have the ability to create personal freedom without violating the spiritual rights of others and without allowing others to violate your spiritual rights of being.

SELF-CONTAINMENT: Taking personal responsibility for, and realizing that at all times, you are accountable for DIRECTING PERSONAL ENERGIES. There is no one or no thing that "upsets you" and thus justifies or validates ANY personal spiritual misuse of reaction, idea, intention or action. It is YOU who "upsets yourself" by allowing the emotional body to follow misperceptions of the mental body that tell you that your power lies outside of yourself. At any given moment, you can CHOOSE which words, associations and ideas you will use as the filters through which you interpret an event. "UPSET," "MAD," HURT" or any other category of labeling (conscious or subconscious) are all MENTAL BODY FILTERS that direct emotional and physical body function. The self contained individual recognizes that at all times, the freedom of interpretation exists, and thus a "negative" experience and its associated dis-harmonic energies of "upset" feelings can only exist as a personal interpretation of events. Accepting any less responsibility for the direction of personal energies will place you directly into the Victim-Victimizer "Blame Game," which can only take place among people who are placing their personal power and responsibility for manifestation onto externalized sources. Only you have the power to "upset yourself." Regardless of what others say or do, you are fully entitled to your own interpretation. No one or thing has the power to upset you unless you give this power away. Self containment comes when one recognizes that the direction of personal energies, whether physical, emotional, mental (ideas, beliefs, labels, interpretations), conscious or subconscious is an attainable level of personal mastery and exists as an implied responsibility that comes with the gift of free will choice. The more responsible you become, the greater freedom and personal empowerment you will know.

SELF-DISCIPLINE: Accepting responsibility for directing personal energies toward, rather than in opposition to, the outcomes you desire to experience. The physical, mental and emotional bodies have long been directed by the subconscious forces of the hidden "shadow," creating within us urges, reactions, thoughts, impulses, perceptions and feelings that often work counter to the life creations we desire to manifest. Part of spiritual mastery entails teaching ourselves to be consciously diligent in observing our own minds, emotions and physical body-talk, so that we may employ conscious redirection of subconscious shadow energies that run on "auto-pilot." If we learn to "catch ourselves" when "negative" thought patterns or emotions run through us, we can use that moment of recognition to reclaim this errant energy and consciously use the power of affirmative attitude, remedial word choice and direct energy re-direction to direct opposing energies of the Self into fulfillment of desired constructive, spiritually mature creations. It takes self discipline to become the "Lion Tamer" of the often roaring subconscious mind, but we do have the intrinsic power to help our subconscious shadow to evolve through loving but firm redirection, into a "cuddly lap cat" that will gladly join us in our constructive co-creations. Self-discipline emerges when we consistently remind ourselves to employ the "Spiritually Correct" thought, action or attitude, even if we don't "feel like it" when the shadow sneaks up from "down under." The shadow parts of Self surface so that we may see these parts of Self come to the conscious mind for healing. Through this process, the conscious mind itself can learn greater attributes of mastery.

SELF-LOVE: It is our own responsibility to love and nurture ourselves through the limitless gift of Divine Spirit that moves through us at every moment. Genuine love must come from within and can only be gained though genuine spiritual connection to the eternal God-self and its inherent connection to all creation. If we seek love "on the outside" in order to fulfill a personal loneliness or lack within, we enter relationships as "energy vampires." In doing this, we are seeking a substitute for our personal God-Source connection through tapping into the God-Source embodied within other people or beings. This is not "LOVE." It is "NEED." This implies the "LACK" of something essential, which in turn implies a limited personal connection to God-Source Universal Consciousness. Such lack cannot be filled by external "love." It can only be filled by recognizing the God within you, and thus recognizing that you are a living embodiment of absolute love. Once this is recognized, you will HAVE the greatest love of all, God Love. And from this Position of Divine Power, you can go into the world seeking those to whom you can give this love, rather than seeking those from whom you can "get" love. When love is approached through Self Love, the motivation is to give joyfully, knowing that anything you might need can be made manifest through the Love of the active God Source that you carry inside yourself. Self Love is a responsibility of spiritual maturity.

SPIRITUAL INTEGRITY: It is our absolute responsibility to choose to act with spiritual integrity at all times. There is no excuse to knowingly violate the spiritual rights of others, regardless of how poorly they may react to you. Spiritual Integrity requires that we begin to LOOK AT what we are REALLY doing in the way we live our lives. Do our eating habits violate the plant, animal or Earth kingdoms? Do our choices of words and actions show respect for other people and other life forms? Do we "play the survival of the fittest" lack-game to give ourselves an excuse for unethical behaviors in money matters, such as showing our silent rebellion against the government by trying to "cheat" on taxes, or by "showing up" a fellow employee at work to prove you are more worthy and thus more entitled to favor? Do you "tell people what they want to hear" in order to gain their approval and support, even if it is not fully true and does not reflect your personal needs or feelings? Do you try to "get others to do your share" as far as work or responsibilities? Do you use erroneous excuses such as race, gender, creed, academic or economic status to justify disrespectful, exploitative or unkind treatment of others? Spiritual Integrity requires that we take a good hard, frequent look at how we conduct our lives, to face the areas of activity in which we are performing in less than spiritually congruent ways and to employ active commitment and discipline to bring these areas of our lives into Spiritual Integrity. One does not "get through the gates of Heaven" (or anywhere else desirable) through using excuses for not employing genuine, not feigned, Spiritual Integrity. Cultivating spiritual integrity is a major responsibility on the path of spiritual mastery, and the way the universe works, you "can't leave home without it." This means that there is a biological reality of spiritual integrity that manifests chemically within the DNA as a result of that state and focus of consciousness. If you do not possess a sufficient amount of spiritual integrity in your consciousness, neither will your DNA Template. And though you might be able to "pull the wool over the eyes of others," your own biology will be eventually be your own task master. Passage through any stargate requires a sufficient amount of chemically encoded spiritual integrity of consciousness.

APPRECIATION: Our present society continually teaches us to "want more," "need more," "be more," "do more" etc. We are constantly influenced to perceive what is lacking in order to motivate us to buy more, work more, pay more taxes and be "good little consumer sheep." Very rarely do we stop to think about all that we DO have, beginning with the gift of Life and mental free will choice. Through this disoriented perceptual filter we can cultivate a ‘full-blown’ mutation of mental consciousness. In this mutated consciousness, we begin to believe that "we are entitled," that "someone OWES us" (GOD, the Universe, our parents, spouse, children, employer, government, etc....). Once we fall into this "You OWE me" mind trap, we set ourselves up for continuing self-created frustration, as we place unrealistic and untrue expectations upon life, others and ourselves. We can also often get mighty angry or hurt when we find the universe doesn't conform to our imagined "pictures." No one OWES us anything! If we feel we are "owed," then we are entertaining LACK CONSCIOUSNESS and a void within the Self is being recognized. If we give to another in order to RECEIVE for ourselves (such as do banks, and often parents, spouses or lovers), and the other does not "pay back" what we expected to receive, we may feel cheated, "taken advantage of," or "owed." In fact, these situations often emerge in our lives as lessons to teach us that giving should be done for the GIVING ALONE, and not for the expected return. If we give what we desire to give, for the joy of giving, we do not feel owed. If we live for the joy of living, without forcing our demands or expectations upon life, we will not feel that "life has short changed us!" It matters not what your neighbor possesses, because in comparing ourselves to each other to see how we "measure up" to each other, we are in effect, continually being distracted from seeing and utilizing the blessings that are our own. If we can work to cultivate the ability to APPRECIATE even the smallest of gifts, blessings and gestures, we will begin to create a life that is at least “half full” instead of “half empty.” In terms of universal physics, what you focus your attention upon expands, what you resist persists and what you do not give the energy of appreciation to will eventually de-manifest right out of your experience. When you approach the world through the chosen filter of genuine GIVING, you are in effect, being an “electrical transmitter,” sending energy out to the world around you. When you release electrical energy in this way, you become more “magnetic,” as the sending out of energy creates magnetic vortices within the Diodic Grid of your Kathara anatomy. The "magnetized" Diodic points then draw in more universal energy supply, at a higher frequency and quality than the expressed energy, to re-fill the energy void created by the "giving." When you approach the world with the attitude of "getting," this natural physics process becomes inverted. The more you try to "pull" energy from the outside world, the more your energy becomes "stuck" in the Diodic Grid as miasms. The miasms progressively reduce the quantity and lower the frequency of the natural energies you can internally draw from the universal supply. Giving, even in its simplest form of giving appreciation, keeps the natural energy flow moving. Whatever you give out will return to you amplified. This also works in reverse, however, and giving out a bad attitude of ego, arrogance and “garbage” will cause more of the same to flow your way. Appreciate what you have. LOVE IT, find perspectives through which the joy of it can be known, and know that in the act of genuine appreciation itself, you will set loose the powers of manifesting more of what you desire and less of the illusion of lack. The "Universe Owes Me" mind trip is one of the most powerful self-sabotage games in the world. Trade it in for consistent appreciation and your world will progressively expand to hold the reality of the things you most desire. If you feel put upon by the world, and resentful for having your desires unmet, YOU OWE YOURSELF SOMETHING! You owe yourself a greater understanding of the nature of creation and better use of your personal power within the life creation game. SAY THANK YOU to the GOD SOURCE more often…to help yourself remember what things you have to appreciate, and many more of the kind will be sent along your way.

PATIENCE: God Source has its own schedule! We can either acknowledge this intrinsic reality of manifestation and choose to work co-creatively with the God-Source within, trusting that together you and the universe will create the perfect "Divine Right Timing" (and if that isn't "Right NOW," there IS a very good reason for this), or you can let the ego-self try to force its will upon the intrinsic nature of time. If time does not cooperate with your expectations, you can "let that be OK, and trust in Divine Right Timing" or you can progressively frustrate yourself with attachment to the artificial time of clocks, and choose to believe that you cannot have what you desire just because it does not appear when you demand. If we learn to relax, and realize that most things we desire we can indeed achieve in Divine Right Time and Order, we can learn to work co-creatively with the consciousness of time. We will often then find that our lives will progressively better conform to our wishes, especially when we ask nicely rather than DEMAND, and also when we trust the universal God-Source to do its part in our co-creation. Patience is a virtue that reflects our comprehension of the nature of Universal Order.

KINDNESS: Like Respect (Dance for Life Attitude of Mastery #4), Kindness is a birthright, but one that is quite often overlooked and misunderstood. When we approach the world through genuine kindheartedness, sending love and respect to all of creation in honor of the God Force that lives within all things, we are, again, transmitting electrical energy of a higher frequency, that will follow the mechanics of universal physics to bring more of like kind back to us through universal back flow. Kindness is a gift we must first give to ourselves in order to have it to give to others. Kindness implies being conscientious and caring toward the needs, feelings and desires of both the self and others, and to express this concern and caring in action, attitude and intention. Give to yourself random acts of kindness, then pass along the gift to all who cross your way. Try being kind to the mean and grouchy neighbor and you may help them rediscover the ability to smile. When we treat all things with kindness, we demonstrate that we acknowledge their intrinsic value as manifestations of God Source, and you will often find God Source lovingly returns the favor.

CONSERVATION: Conservation is a form of respect and appreciation for God Source energy in all of its expressions, from conserving and protecting our natural resources, to being attentive to the needs of our bodies, to using the energies of our words and actions with gentle conservation by which we freely use what is needed, but not more. God Source continually recycles its energies for the rebirth of new expression. All is given freely, but no thing is valueless or wasted. Conservation demonstrates that we have respect and appreciation for the gift of creative energy that God Source has provided to us. As we learn to use this energy, in all its forms, with respect and clear intention, we will progressively fine tune our ability to create what we desire, and in this process assist all other beings to do the same. There is truth in the old saying "Waste Not, Want Not." If everything we perceive in our hologram of life is understood to be manifestations of God Source, we might all employ a bit more respect, appreciation and conservation toward the use and applications of the energies of the Divine.

COOPERATION/DIPLOMACY: Existence is and will always be a co-creative endeavor. We must be willing to allow other beings the fulfillment of their needs and desires if we hope to have our fulfillment known. Creating "Win-Win" situations and creating with the intention of GIVING genuinely are natural ways of being. We might not always agree with the intended creations of others, and we all have a right to our points of view. Diplomacy can be a bridge between forces of opposition, through which effective actions or decisions can be reached to mutually support each perspective. We can learn to agree to disagree respectfully, so the Spiritual Art of Co-operative Co-creation can progressively evolve to higher levels of expression.

SENSE: Learning to identify and appropriately apply both "Common Sense" and the "Uncommon Sense" of spiritual knowing will allow us to establish the greatest balance of energy expression within all aspects of our lives.



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eleni
12-24-2009, 07:01 PM
Coming back to read Stardust's posts when I get the time- am very interested in reading your posts Stardust as I have finished Angelic Realities last night (read the first 2 books already).......

14 Chakras
12-24-2009, 07:58 PM
Hey to each his own. Stardust, you have at this time certainly chosen to put a lot of your own light behind Hayes teachings. I wish you well on your journey and I'm very happy to hear that you are over Fibromyalgia and connecting to your own Divine spark within. Besides the outer beliefs, it sounds like you and I stardust agree on many inner beliefs. And it is always best to focus on common ground rather than differences.

We should always remember, there is always More and whatever we think of as the highest truth right now, is simply not the highest truth or we would already be free (meaning no more limitations in the mater realm), and even then, there is always More. Attachment to beliefs is what keeps us in this matrix prison, ideally, we get back in the Divine flow of things where there is no attachment, only More.

I've said my piece about Hayes material, my discernment remains unchanged, I am not a supporter and I believe many of the outer teachings are false and black is white, up is down, backwards teachings. So I will leave it at that!

I believe what will get us where we need to go is unconditional Love, helping our neighbor and bringing forth solutions to our world by connecting to our own Divine spark within. We are divine Beings who simply must remember this reality by surrendering the pseudo self, surrender the human ego that is hiding our true Self.

Our chakras will open up and our DNA will change as we come more into the Self realization of who we are through Love of our neighbor and Oneness with the Divine spark within. I suggest forcing chakras open or dna changes through mechanical means before we have purified our consciousness is taking heaven by storm, and we'll never get there that way.


Here are two Websites that I suggest do indeed include many keys to mastery at this time and which I do support: www.askrealjesus.com and http://www.christsway.co.za/dletters.php

And Eckhart Tolle's teachings are bang on :)

All the best to those who are searching for higher truth at this important time. May the Truth of the Christ consciousness Be born in you and us All.

P.S. Someone mentioned the books "Conversations with God" above, while I do not believe it is perfect, I would also agree, those teachings can be beneficial as a stepping stone on the path.

P.P.S. Startdust, yes, I'm a big supporter of Bruce Lipton's work ~ :) ~ how do we change our DNA? By changing our consciousness.

TraineeHuman
12-25-2009, 09:29 AM
Ms Hayes claims to talk about the biggest of big pictures. In a way she puts herself above all the divine beings in all universes of whatever sort. That can maybe make it extremely hard to pin down all the points at which I suggest she is flat-out wrong. But it seems to me I’ve never come across an author before with “information” that I know to be always false at every tiny point where I claim I do just happen to know the truth or the facts.

For instance, she apparently believes that a blue ray can be destructive. Here we’re talking about blue energy that’s not physical blue light, but in a higher density than third. Anybody familiar with blue rays in detail from their own actual experience will know that such a ray is anything but destructive, to put it mildly. Indeed, such a ray invariably begins to appear within and connect with an individual person’s fourth-density and fifth-density bodies more and more the more that person evolves spiritually.

Another of many examples I could give is her account of higher dimensions. As far as I can understand, she claims that the way you get from, say, three dimensions to four is by finding a direction (of rotation) that’s orthogonal (perpendicular) to all the three-dimensional directions (i.e., to height, breadth and width). Although this is mathematically correct, such a world with four dimensions isn’t what most people on this site mean when they refer to “fourth density”. In fact, I have very clear memories of a past lifetime (or a past lifetime-imprint) in a physical, third-density world where there were at least six dimensions instead of three as in ours. But it was still very much third density. The first time I recalled parts of that lifetime, I kept replaying pictures of the “motor” vehicles everybody seemed to travel in. I kept replaying them because with my habit of looking at a third density physical world in three-dimensional terms, it seemed to me that whenever I saw that I or somebody else entered one of these vehicles, they would proceed to get flattened. Flattened to the point of becoming infinitely thin, and crushed to death, it momentarily seemed to me. But on arrival at their destination, a person would simply “un-flatten” as they climbed out of their vehicle. So, it seems clear to me that Ms Hayes’ concept of a “twelfth density world” is what I would call a third-density world that just happens to have twelve mathematical dimensions of physical space where ours has three. Not the same thing at all.

I’m amazed and horrified to think that so many people, apparently, just blindly believe that what Ms Hayes is true, or that it has some major connection to reality. One part of liberation involves becoming able to readily admit it when you just don’t know whether something is true – and not forming any opinion at all about it that's based on inadequate “information”.

Kundaflower
12-25-2009, 10:43 AM
Hi all,

I have never read Annas books, but out of curiosity i started to listen her earth history serie and found that some things "resonate" in me.

By that i mean that i have somekind of memory flashes of some of the differend times she spoke.

Anyway i wanna qoute Seth here (Jane Roberts)..
" Whatever your understanding in reality is, existence seems to support it"..

Peace
KF:wub2:

dolphin
12-25-2009, 11:11 AM
14 chakras... you are misguided,. but if you choose to believe an outdated "biblical" text full of disinfo, misinfo, some truths, but mainly metaphors, well, for you to say anna's work is full of lies is completely arrogant.

how do YOU know what TRUTH is???

she was abducted by BOTH negative and POSITIVE ETs

btw: jesus never "died" on the cross, he was assassinated w a knife by the essenes.

what anna hayes offers is a path of self empowerment, knowledge that transcends dogma and manipulation.

14 Chakras
12-26-2009, 09:12 PM
she was abducted by BOTH negative and POSITIVE ETs


I find this to be an interesting assumption that the validity of Anna Hayes teachings actually rest on in my opinion.

Do truly benevolent spiritual Beings of high consciousness abduct human beings?

Is that the way the Divine chooses to release the highest, most sublime Truth to humanity?

If Oneness is reality, cannot truly evolved spiritual Beings that are unconditional Love Beings in Oneness with All Life, communicate spiritual Truth within the hearts of humanity. Will the messengers they choose be ones that are abducted and even admit to being mind controlled by shadow government?

Perhaps, although, I do not believe this is the case.

I do believe that spiritual Truth will come through the messengers of the Divine, which are people that choose the path of selflessness, the path of Self realization and come into Oneness with their own Divine Self within. That surrender their human ego for the reality of who they are in Oneness with the infinite and who are the Pure in heart.

As for the comments on Christianity, I can assure you, I do not believe the lies of fundamental Christianity, however, I do believe that Jesus is a very real, very alive ascended Being in Oneness with All Life, and that his message is simple: we are all sons and daughters of God and those who choose to Be, will be.

I believe there is a middle Way, and this is the Way of Oneness.

~ Espavo ~

TempestGarden
12-27-2009, 06:50 AM
I still struggle with this material at times. I have read both Voyagers books and I want to read Angelic Realities as well. I found them both to be fascinating reading and I did feel as though I came away with answers to a number of questions that I have been asking. I will say this though... It does seem to me that most of this material is based on fear. After reading both books, I don't feel like I received a very hopeful message for humanity, in the grand scheme of things. I realize that not everything ends with a happy ending in life, but after reading these books, I honestly think I am more fearful about my future than when I started them.

I don't fully understand the Ascension techniques that she is talking about and I got the impression that only a very select few people on this planet would be able to do the work necessary to achieve Ascension in the current Stellar Activation Cycle. Sort of like... only a lucky few that have this information and more importantly understand how to use it, will ascend and experience a better life than what you might be living here on Earth. Sorry but that is the impression that I got from this. It mostly just causes me more anxiety about the future. The other question that came to my mind after reading these books was that if all this information was indeed true and as important as she claims, why would the Guardian Alliance wait all the way up to the last minute (practically) to share this with us (through her). It just seems to me like information this important should have been made available to humanity a long time ago, especially if we are currently in a "fall" timeline as she claims in the updated info on her website. If all of this is true, then we are running out of time very quickly and I just don't see how that many people will even have the time to benefit from this material, should they show an interest in it.

While I haven't agreed for the most part with 14 Chakras comments on this material in the various threads, I think he/she (?) brought up a good point in this thread that I have to admit I considered at one time, perhaps even still. The idea that the ETs that gave her this information might also have their own agenda and what, if anything, might they gain by giving her information that they know is false. It's just something that has been running through my head for a little while and the point that 14 Chakras made just caught my eye is all.

Overall, I am still quite fearful about my future and this material didn't help me to overcome those fears in any way. If anything, it intensified them. I just wonder if we (humanity) will ever know the complete truth about all these topics when we are here on 3D Earth? I mean really understand these things as truths without the slightest possibility of disinfo. Or, will we have to die before we will get the entire "big" picture, so to speak?

THE eXchanger
12-27-2009, 08:58 AM
btw: jesus never "died" on the cross,
he was assassinated w a knife by the essenes.

i do NOT see a record of essenes, killing jesus ???

why do you think, they would do that ???

THE eXchanger
12-27-2009, 09:01 AM
post # 45 - why all the google key words etc.,

krist krysta christ christos blah/blah/blah etc., ???

she sure goes overboard with labelling things

and, also with spelling things differently ...

is that a marketing ploy ???

BTW

i do believe-some of her work is outstanding

however ~ can i ask,

what it costs to do it ???

HOW MANY DIFFERENT COURSES, ETC.,

does she teach ???

Stardustaquarion
12-27-2009, 01:00 PM
No ofence to anyone but the only way you will be able to assess whether this material is true or not is by studiying the 10 years of work that has been put forward by Ashayana

It is impossible to answer in a nut shell the magnitude of the drama that has happened here in the last 10 years...but reading the free summaries in her website may help

And yes, it is not easy to accept that our reality is being manipulated by ETs but not all of them are bad

Indeed we are all ETs cos the theory of evolution has never been proved to be correct

We are being told by many sources that we are being mind controlled, that ET's have been here for a long time, from Sacharia Sitchin to Alex Collier...Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, Willian Cooper, the wistleblowers on Project Camelot etc

I can see that you don't like Anna Hayes, cool, don't study her what is the big deal....?

You want to ascend? maybe there are other ways....personally for me the Freedom Teachings have worked thus far and I will continue with this research until I slide (ascend) or find something better

To listen to the truth of our past and realize that we have been duped isn't easy, nor is the realization that the planet has been lost and it is not going to ascend and we will have to make our way individually...to know that we are where we are because we created it is really shocking for us, cos we are used to play the victim/victimizer game non stop and blame everyone for what we have misscreated

No one said ascension was going to be easy...we let others persuade us that was the case (fallen angelics new age movement) cos they want to eat our quantum to sustain their black hole systems... it is still a personal choice to believe cos no one can say for certain that the information that we are being given is true (and that includes all the holy books, new age books, history books, science books etc) until we get direct personal experience of the inner worlds...and can travel personally to the ecashic records...see the whole thing inside out and outside in...it is trully fascinating

Still, there are three choices, one can do nothing and be eaten by the black holes, or do the step back and return (information about this will come with the new Asha's book this summer, it appear to be a easier option but involves start over again rather than mastery) or we can slide into the new earth and that means getting onself together and raise one's light quantum to more than 75 pct...

It is tough but not too late yet

For me the Guardian Alliance teachings are the rolls royce of spiritual developme but that is my personal opinion

I think the options have been given and it is up to every person to decide what they do

I am not here to persuade anyone

Still, thank you for the interesting debate it helped clear many points!

Unconditional love to all

:gathering:

Stardustaquarion
12-27-2009, 01:40 PM
By the way, I don't know who this man is but he is talking about Anna's books in a lecture with Alex Collier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykfOHBBBU90

Don't know where he got some of his conclussions they not all come from Anna's teachings

Cheers

Stardustaquarion
12-27-2009, 01:51 PM
Again I have not studied his books and his conclussions are not 100 pct accurated but worth watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snq7zsJGV64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEoSWIRCa6o

Cheers

Stardustaquarion
12-27-2009, 02:05 PM
By the way the Amenti project failed and here there is a link that explained what happened after 2003

http://www.azuritepress.com/faq/faq1.html

Also Tara was invaded in 2005 and it is no longer a viable way up that is the reason why we have to slide

In other words, originally, we were supposed to do stargate passage needing only the activation of the 4 strand and the subharmonics of the 5ft

Now we basically need 9 to 10 strands of DNA activated, hence so much material to clear the mutations in a progressible and safe way

Needless to say that the dark ones have activated many facilities to keep us here and hamper our ability to ascend, all that information can be found in the workshops as well as the current state of affairs and what may or may not happen in 2012

Hope this helps you have a broader perspective of why the Guardian Alliance is doing what is doing and why we are being push to learn so much in such a short time

The only universal stargate viable in the whole of the Milky Way today is here on Earth that is USG3

Cheers

TempestGarden
12-27-2009, 10:15 PM
By the way the Amenti project failed and here there is a link that explained what happened after 2003

http://www.azuritepress.com/faq/faq1.html

Also Tara was invaded in 2005 and it is no longer a viable way up that is the reason why we have to slide

Thanks for the link. I actually found that link a couple of weeks ago and read through it.

This is kind of what I meant in my post above. Every time I read something new and updated, it is always bad news, so to speak. There is never any good news. No matter what was intended by the Guardian Alliance for good purposes, it always seems to fail and the Fallen ones always seem to get their way, whether it's how they originally planned or through some other nefarious plan they came up with when their original perhaps didn't succeed. This is why I always seem to get fear from this. Because it never seems like the "good guys" ever win anything. That's a really elementary way of putting it, but I couldn't think of another way to say it.

The other thing that I don't understand is... if the Fallen ones can have such influence/control over us throughout the years, then why is it that the Guardian Alliance are so hesitant to come forward with this information? It's kinda like they respect our Free Will but the Fallen ones do not. Anna even states in Voyagers I more than once that the GA wouldn't allow her to release this information until the late '90s. With the seriousness of our situation, I just don't understand that at all either.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that we have done a lot of damage to Earth and to each other. But, it's certainly worth noting that we have had a lot of help from the Fallen ones, influencing us for many thousands of years, even through mind control as was stated above. So, while I may not be looking for anyone to "save" me per se, it would be nice if the GA would even the playing field a little more with their presence since human beings haven't ever really been able to get rid of the Fallen ones, even those of us that have wanted to.

Stardustaquarion
12-28-2009, 12:10 PM
Dear Tempestgarden

I know what you mean and it is not easy. What is happening here now has been on the making for billions of years.

We may not remember now but if we are here in this point of time we are either Guardians (as in human angelics or indigos) or part of the fallen races

Over millenia humanity took decisions that has take it to this place...it is what it is, there are no victims, we are in a equal interchange of energy universe

The problem really started in an adjecent universe and now this is the time of the final conflict drama

Before coming here in the inner planes many of us hoped that the whole thing will turn around to be the redemption by peaceful means of the fallen ones but they have chosen other avenue; as it is easy to deduct from the state of current violence, wars, inequality, lies, withholding vital information etc

The good news is that it is not all lost as it has happened before in other black hole falls and the krystiac peoples and fallen angelic (except metratonic) are been given regenesis contracts in 2012 if they choose to have them called the silver seed awakening

The Krystiac peoples together with up to a 3rd of the planet grids an life can ascend of slide after that date

Another third will be given the choice of entering regenesis contracts

One third will do black hole metatronic fall it can not be stopped now

This is so much better than in other systems!!! Sometimes I want to sing and dance non stop!

Let us hope that together we will be able to hold these probabilities

Love

lightwalker
12-30-2009, 02:47 AM
I read all of Anna Hayes books years ago from a friend who supported her moneywise when she was first starting out and before she changed her name to Ashayana.

He couldn't read the books as they were too difficult for him. Well I did...I plowed thru them. There were lot's of words that were quite new in my world, however when I finished I learned one major thing about her "billion" or was it "trillion" years history of planets "Gaia", "Terra" and "Earth". (AND I can't remember if there was another name).

And that is/was...WE ARE STILL KILLING ONE ANOTHER OFF.

There were also names and pictures of many different kinds of ET's which is why I was interested in her writing. Because she is quite "wordy" it takes some commitment to read her stuff.

A lot of our "light messengers" out there are "wordy" and each of them fulfills a purpose for different sections of our human population. ie: David Icke, David Wilcock, Drunvolo, Neale Walsch,...and so on.

I found that if something isn't easy to read and simple to understand then I would go elsewhere to find the info I wanted.

If you are drawn to Anna Hayes then I strongly suggest you follow your gut feelings...cuz that is where you should be going.

She has a part of the story.

lightwalker

14 Chakras
12-30-2009, 06:30 AM
I suggest the part of the story she has it the part that is completely b.s.

kriya
12-30-2009, 12:50 PM
I suggest the part of the story she has it the part that is completely b.s.


After careful consideration and much time researching, I have to agree with 14Chakras because (a) Masters don't charge large sums of money to help you ascend and (b) it ain't that difficult!!. The spiritual path is truly simple. Cultivate a relationship with the Divine and see where it leads you.

Love,

Kriya

Stardustaquarion
12-30-2009, 02:02 PM
Kriya, I respect your opinion but nothing is free in this planet...even the regular churches demand hefty donations....

Other new age workshops are much more expensive and not such a good value for money. The DVDs of the freedom techniques are not more expensive than others new age or regular ones, if you take into consideration the amount of hours of lecture and written material that you get, additionally:

In case you don't know there are many, many techniques that are give for free by azurite press

http://www.azuritepress.com/techniques/new_technique_outline.html

just press the underlined blue headings instead of the product codes

Also, if you are interested you can join the free group of keylontic sciences in yahoo and additionaly there is a sponsorship program that can be found in the egroup for people that can not afford the materials.

The outreach program http://www.krystalspiral.com/UK_index.html offers too a lot of free material and there are study groups that only charge running costs

There is also the keylontic dictionary http://www.keylonticdictionary.org/ that one can join for free

The teachings are not that difficult when you get the hang of it and perhaps it is better to start with the introductions in the website http://www.azuritepress.com/New%20Comers/mceo_welcome.htm

Of course, I am not trying to convince you but to show posibilities and options

Best wishes

kriya
12-30-2009, 04:26 PM
Kriya, I respect your opinion but nothing is free in this planet...even the regular churches demand hefty donations....

Other new age workshops are much more expensive and not such a good value for money. The DVDs of the freedom techniques are not more expensive than others new age or regular ones, if you take into consideration the amount of hours of lecture and written material that you get, additionally:

In case you don't know there are many, many techniques that are give for free by azurite press

http://www.azuritepress.com/techniques/new_technique_outline.html

just press the underlined blue headings instead of the product codes

Also, if you are interested you can join the free group of keylontic sciences in yahoo and additionaly there is a sponsorship program that can be found in the egroup for people that can not afford the materials.

The outreach program http://www.krystalspiral.com/UK_index.html offers too a lot of free material and there are study groups that only charge running costs

There is also the keylontic dictionary http://www.keylonticdictionary.org/ that one can join for free

The teachings are not that difficult when you get the hang of it and perhaps it is better to start with the introductions in the website http://www.azuritepress.com/New%20Comers/mceo_welcome.htm

Of course, I am not trying to convince you but to show posibilities and options

Best wishes

Hi Stardustaquarion,

Thank you for your very thoughtful response, it is very much appreciated. I shall check out some of these links that you recommend. This information is extremely intriguing, however, I already follow my own path. I am a student of Paramahansa Yogananda and the Self-Realization Fellowship and practice a meditation technique called Kriya Yoga.

IMO, it's important to stick to a path otherwise one cannot see the wood for the trees so to speak.

I wish you well in your practice and hope it affords you the same blessings that I have received in mine.

Love,

Kriya

Shadowstalker
02-27-2010, 08:07 PM
Huge picture of our soul/spirit history with our religious/ ET/ connections to the present situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0sncfZpRok&feature=PlayList&p=570095EF1B0987A2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13

Very interesting.


This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by APMCEO Inc..

I am glad i viewed all those vids in one day I should have download uggg.

HORIZONS
02-28-2010, 12:14 AM
My rather harsh review, I call it constructive criticism ;)


First video ~ starts out with some nice generalization's that everyone can agree with.

~ finishes with a hook on the ego, while since you agree with these nice generalizations and you are watching this, you are very special, you are very high up and ready for all of this.

Ok, now ego is activated, I'm special, I'm chosen, I'm watching these videos.

Then it is like: YOU want to know truth right? Well then this is for you.

Second video ~ launches into names, numbers, very confusing speaking that literally NO ONE IN THE WORLD will really understand what is being said exactly.

However, ego is activated, we are special, this material is for special people. This is for people like me that want the truth right? Well then, fake it til u make it. We're confused but it sounds important, so we just feel instead it's great, she's wonderful etc. etc.

Mind control works exactly this way from my understanding. You state a commonly known fact, activate the ego with a compliment, then implant bizarre information in a confusing way.

Deception.

What is the take home message? Keep learning more in this endless circle of nothingness.

By the time we are done absorbing Anna Hayes materials we will most likely believe:

>You must evacuate the earth.
>ETs hold the highest spiritual truth.
>Humanities protector Archangel Michael is your enemy, connect to the ETs.
>Your personal ascension is determined by which ETs have access to stargates.
>You are lower than the ETs.
>Jesus was real, but he ran away from the cross in order to 'save his life' and another dude died on the cross for him.
>You can "activate DNA" to be more loving, rather than being more loving to be more loving!
>If only you keep reading these books over and over, buying the next one etc. you will finally 'get it'


And the take home lie: Truth is mental not spiritual. The power is outside of you, not inside of you and you have no hope of saving your planet, so leave when you get a chance.

To me this is up is down, black is white, spin us around, empty our pockets then set us out to the world to preach the message.

This is the same feel I received from her work -- especially the empty the pocketbook part. Her truth is expensive.

Stardustaquarion
03-01-2010, 07:04 PM
This is the same feel I received from her work -- especially the empty the pocketbook part. Her truth is expensive.

There is a lot of free material in her website I have found, more than anyone elses in the New Age movement

There is two summaries which ammount to a book of 70 pages about what may happen in 2012 and why, and many more pages of free information and free techniques. Virtually ALL the newcomers material that will make anyone busy for a significant amount of time is FREE

That is without considering the free Keylontic dictionary :) or the Krystal Spiral that does meetings at cost so there is plenty to see much cheaper than the mayority out there



Love

Alcyone77
03-25-2010, 09:56 PM
If at this stage in the game, this is where we are guided to be, and we are most definitely becoming more loving to our neighbors, becoming more consicous of our energy and creations, surrendering our own darkness and ego, and we are connecting to our own Divine spark within our hearts, then it really doesn't matter what materials were reading, because we're on the path of Oneness, the path of moving beyond the ego and into the reality of who we are as a Co-Creator with the infinite rather than a victim here in the matrix.

My personal discernment is very strong on this one, while I'm not suggesting Anna Hayes is herself a liar, I am suggesting that the ET's that abducted her and taught her this information have their own agenda's and illusions and that what is being taught is full of many untruths.

I am suggesting that this material is designed to in part trap us in the mental realm with a bunch of numbers, facts and figures that are not truth, and for many will hinder us from connecting to inner truth rather than helping us. That's my discernment.


I totally agree with you 14 Chakras, and believe that material like this is just a huge distraction for people which ends up being a trap.

I don't see the value of any of the following and I'm sorry to say - I think it is either the product of an overactive imagination at best or an attempt at using an unwitting person to further trap and enslave those who get sucked up in it:

It says that she was trained by the Melchizedek Cloister Priest of Ur.


She was trained by The Guardian Alliance which main task was to increase security in our Time Matrix when the Annu-Elohim fallen Angelic Legions created the Anunnaki race line 568 million years ago to destroy the Oraphin-Angelic Human lineage and reaces of the Emerald Covenant. Specializes in propagation of the Emerald Covenant and serves as the governing body of over 10 million Emerald Covenant Star League Nations within the 4 Densities of matter in our Time Matrix

The GA represents a smaller, specialized group, and primary task force, within a greater Guardian Organization called the Inter-dimensional Associations of Free Worlds IAFW created 568 million years ago after the Angelic Wars

All the Guardian races on Earth are considered Amenti races.

Some other members of the GA include:

The regal Lyran-Sirian Whites,
The Aethien
The Rhanthunkeana (Rhantia)
The Breneau - advance beings from the highest dimensional worlds
The Queventelliur
The Turaneusiams
Plus many others.