War is Over

[Céline]

...if you want it.

http://imaginepeace.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/taxi2.jpg

This is an updated image of the old poster that Yoko and John did together. These will be seen on new york cabs , very soon.

[Céline]

Peace Wins.

[Céline]

very wise words from a very wise lady

Thank you, for your kind words.

This kind of artist ....activist...inspires me.

it is a pleasure to share her , here.

[Swanny]

Ono gives me the creeps :shocked:

[Céline]

Ono gives me the creeps :shocked:

Why?

[Northern Boy]

ono gives me the creeps :shocked:

yoko?

[Swanny]

Something not quite right about her. I watched her on tele a few weeks ago and didn't like her vibe. I don't think John should have married her

[Northern Boy]

I have my own opinion of her too she is not the same person John married she has changed on several fronts it seems

[swordsmith]

oh please, yoko oh-no thinks the Georgia Guidestones are something everyone should go see, heed, and later presumably drop by her Koolaid stand after visiting. Yoko is a BIG bread head and was very manipulative to John, when she was sick of him she sent him off to some woman she more or less procurred , later to decide she wanted him back in her web , just as he was about to break free. A black widow is how I see her.
no offense. It takes all kinds.

[Céline]

oh please, yoko oh-no thinks the Georgia Guidestones are something everyone should go see, heed, and later presumably drop by her Koolaid stand after visiting. Yoko is a BIG bread head and was very manipulative to John, when she was sick of him she sent him off to some woman she more or less procurred , later to decide she wanted him back in her web , just as he was about to break free. A black widow is how I see her.
no offense. It takes all kinds.

Perception is everything...

[Jnana]

<sarcasm>So let's keep fighting over the personality of the messenger and forget all about the message, okay?</sarcasm>

[Kinsuemei2]

No such thing as war? perhaps not meant to but, however, Ant's and Chimpanzees declare war on each other. Hell Ant's even make slaves out of their prisoners, isn't nature amazing.... brutal and horrific at its purest but still amazing!

[Swanny]

Some one told her she could sing, she can't :zip:

[Céline]

<sarcasm>So let's keep fighting over the personality of the messenger and forget all about the message, okay?</sarcasm>

Sarcasm or not....Your point is very well made.

i perceive it as weakness to attact the messenger instead if the message...

By weakness, i mean in the debate...not a personal weakness..

[Céline]

No such thing as war? perhaps not meant to but, however, Ant's and Chimpanzees declare war on each other. Hell Ant's even make slaves out of their prisoners, isn't nature amazing.... brutal and horrific at its purest but still amazing!

Great point! Though may i suggest that when "war" is apparent in nature, it is very well balanced (positive negative energy)

Nature understands that balance...understands where and how to apply negative so that it balances with the positive.

Perhaps we should change the term when applied to nature? any suggestions?

[Céline]

Some one told her she could sing, she can't :zip:

Ok, i agree, the tones in her voice are not pleasing...

i grew up in a musical family, and though not born with a good voice, i enjoyed hours and hours of harmonizing with family and friends...

i have a personal theory on one of the reasons humans sing...

i gather that when early Man would hum... it "felt good " . the vibrations of the skull, the oxygen levels etc.... it was a pleasant thing to do...

Ever listen to throat singing done by Inuits in Canada? (worth a Google search if you havent). \Not something i could listen to for hours but...wow!

I still truly enjoy singing...it brings happiness to my heart... even though it might hurt other peoples ear...

Look at the success of karaoke?

Yoko..truly enjoys what she does...even if others do not...

[swordsmith]

I think it's actually quite important to look at the messenger , after all who do they work for? Especially when they are highly recommending the Georgia Guidestones , I mean ," let humans not be a cancer on the earth"?

jeeze, this woman is seriously rich, and how did she ( or anyone) get that way? She is renowned as a very hard nosed business woman and you can bet if need be she would have already bought a spot in the underground bunkers should " they " decide to more diligently rid the earth of human cancer = US.

The only way to get rid of war is for humans to face their shadows, and that is why all the new age peace and love talk in the world will not do it, it's too fear based .
Know thyself, warts and all. All this obsession with light, it needs to be turned on the darkness within our OWN psyches, we don't need Yoko for that .

Here is a good talk for people wanting to further explore the shadow , the human condition and why there is war. War is not over just because Yoko says so , it's actually going to take some inner work and that takes real courage , a new age fluffy plaster or poster is not going to do it.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/12dec/RIR-091217.php

[Céline]

I think it's actually quite important to look at the messenger , after all who do they work for? Especially when they are highly recommending the Georgia Guidestones , I mean ," let humans not be a cancer on the earth"?

jeeze, this woman is seriously rich, and how did she ( or anyone) get that way? She is renowned as a very hard nosed business woman and you can bet if need be she would have already bought a spot in the underground bunkers should " they " decide to more diligently rid the earth of human cancer = US.

The only way to get rid of war is for humans to face their shadows, and that is why all the new age peace and love talk in the world will not do it, it's too fear based .
Know thyself, warts and all. All this obsession with light, it needs to be turned on the darkness within our OWN psyches, we don't need Yoko for that .

Here is a good talk for people wanting to further explore the shadow , the human condition and why there is war. War is not over just because Yoko says so , it's actually going to take some inner work and that takes real courage , a new age fluffy plaster or poster is not going to do it.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/12dec/RIR-091217.php

Ok...some very good points there...

i will give them weight because i wish to continue this discussion with you..but please know that i feel you did not need to open your comment with insults...it IS possible to discuss the messanger WITHOUT personal attacks... and know that if your attacks were to be generated at myself or anyone else presnt...i would NOT give your points any weight at all...

that said...

Yes, you are right.."look at the messgenger"... anaylyse perhaps the intent, and the motivation... but who they work for? ..hmm not everything is a conspiracy but i can see where perhaps that would be important..


Being rich these days is almost equated with being a "cancer" on society. Judging rich peoples actions as evil is commonplace... Angelina Jolie is an example...we are all humans...right?

why all the new age peace and love talk in the world will not do it

"do it"? what do you mean by it? end war?

Visualization, is what that poster encourages...new age or not...it works...and you know this very well, dont you.


Imagine if everyone believed that war was over?

*celine laughs* quite the fantasy huh?

[Céline]

http://panachecyclewear.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/hand-peace-2.jpg

[Céline]

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Peace---Unknown-Magnet-C11750644.jpeg

[giovonni]

http://blog.art21.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/warisover.jpg


unknown soldier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CHayV-V32E


The Times They Are A-Changin'

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.

bob dylan

Copyright ©1963; renewed 1991 Special Rider Music

[swordsmith]

you see a personal attack, I see your shadow. Not everything has to be kittens and rainbows.

[Céline]

you see a personal attack, I see your shadow. Not everything has to be kittens and rainbows.



my shadow is very obedient...


Everything doesnt have to be demons and acid rain....

try to look past your preconceived notions...and feel the passion

[Leunamros]

...if you want it.

http://imaginepeace.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/taxi2.jpg

This is an updated image of the old poster that Yoko and John did together. These will be seen on new york cabs , very soon.

quite altruistic, but that doesn´t change things. Never will such a thing change a thing. Quite pathetic, indeed.

Btw, Yoko looks creepy to me, a dark being somehow, lol. Her eyes, are like a wolf disguised in sheep clothes.... never liked that woman.

[Céline]

quite altruistic, but that doesn´t change things. Never will such a thing change a thing.

Never? wow...You are sure? i am not so sure...

Perception is everything...

Words DO have power.

Change requires many variables (action, reaction etc)...one of which is Believing... in change...

[giovonni]

quite altruistic, but that doesn´t change things. Never will such a thing change a thing.

Maybe not my friend, but I hope your generation dosen't fall into their trap~ like mine did?
Or has it :sad:

[Leunamros]

Look at the millions of soldiers that choose to be at the armies around the world, they were free to decide to take that job, forget about your absurd ideas of a world without war; this world runs on it and it´s far from being over as it seems. Whenever persons like those exists, and they are not gonna dissapear like some giant evolutional leap you pray for, men and woman, you can still dream forever for throusands of years to come. You have to accept you are part of a poorly evolved and primitive yet animal-like species.

[Céline]

look at the millions of soldiers that choose to be at the armies around the world, they were free to decide to take that job, forget about your absurd ideas of a world without war. Meanwhile persons like those exists, men and woman, you can still dream forever.

absurd? i must completely disagree...

Are those soldiers working to end war? or are they fighting to keep war perpetual??

[Leunamros]

They are easily preys to brainwash to keep war perpetual, you said it, that´s the purpose. War is the best business for an empire. Indeed, the only one agressive enough to keep the empire alive.

When war ends in the planet, it will be placed outside the planet, is so predictable....

[Céline]

They are easily preys to brainwash to keep war perpetual, you said it, that´s the purpose. War is the best business for an empire. Indeed, the only one agressive enough to keep the empire alive.

When war ends in the planet, it will be placed outside the planet, is so predictable....



This is ofcourse your humble opinion...and with respect i must say i dissagree.


Do you belive that all peace workers should stop doing what they are doing?

[Leunamros]

When i said so?, i said that is pathetic, and has always been. You are free to choose the method you use to feel yourself free from the atroticites the empire wich you are citizen of makes over the years. But that empire is relentless, it´s made by the power of a majority of humans and you lightlovers are a huge minority yet. Lightlovers or simply anti-war people, and im one of them.

Im pessimistic about the future, with an ocean of reasons to think that way. You love and light won´t gonna change a thing. Never. At least not in a loooong time.

But, it will improve your life personally and those around you, that´s for sure, i suppose.

[Céline]

When i said so?, i said that is pathetic, and has always been. You are free to choose the method you use to feel yourself free from the atroticites the empire wich you are citizen of makes over the years.

Im pessimistic about the future, with an ocean of reasons to think that way. You love and light won´t gonna change a thing. Never.

But, it will improve your life personally and those around you, that´s for sure, i suppose.

Well i for one do not feel pathetic by supporting peace movements...


Freedom is an illusion...

i am a citizen of Terra....

again i ask you...

do you believe peace workers should stop what they are doing?

[Leunamros]

I said it´s pathetic. That´s my opinion.

You can live up to a well known bunch of fancy words, but reality is something quite attractive to me to live in denial.

[Leunamros]

One sad thing about war is that is made by a minority of humans, soldiers. There are then, some people that manifest anti-war in a variety of ways, like here, and there are others that simply don´t move a finger.

It´s peculiar to see how that minority (soldiers) has such huge power to shape the world.

To get to the point there were no human willing to join any army, there would be needed to be a system who provides everything to every human in this planet FIRST, even while there are still wars, so that would be the window of opportunity to make a world without wars: don´t make people homeless, don´t starve people, give jobs that dignify our presence here, free competition, etc. Money and capitalism are here as a test for everyone of us. There is no solution for capitalism, or greed. They are things that are there and will remain there forever; such things ask us everyday who we are. And how cheap we are.

[Céline]

One sad thing about war is that is made by a minority of humans, soldiers. There are then, some people that manifest anti-war in a variety of ways, like here, and there are others that simply don´t move a finger.

It´s peculiar to see how that minority (soldiers) has such huge power to shape the world.

To get to the point there were no human willing to join any army, there would be needed to be a system who provides everything to every human in this planet FIRST, even while there are still wars, so that would be the window of opportunity to make a world without wars: don´t make people homeless, don´t starve people, give jobs that dignify our presence here, free competition, etc. Money and capitalism are here as a test for everyone of us. There is no solution for capitalism, or greed. They are things that are there and will remain there forever; such things ask us everyday who we are. And how cheap we are.

Agian i ask...we should stop fighting for peace in your opinion??

a simple yes or no will do...

[Leunamros]

Im not gonna answer your question. And, you are not fighting for anything here; no one in avalon is, not even it´s founders or blowerwhistlersss. You are in your comfortable house with your comforable computer enjoying your fancyful beliefs, call it spiritual entertainment. That´s pathetic: to try to portrait yourself as if you were doing something that really changes the world while it doesn´t do anything.

Kerry And Bill do their awesome travels and their "awesome" interviews while they earn money whatever the ways they do because they portrait themselves as freedombearers.... they should portrait themselves, better, as paradigm bearers.

AAAh i would like to travel like them too, donate to me!!

TPTB laughs at all of you day by day. You wanna radically change things?, prepare yourself to war.

Why you ask me more things?, i will say to you even more things you will dislike to hear.

[Céline]

Im not gonna answer your question.

Well...how uncooperative of you...

this is a percestive that you brought up...i thought you would want to explore it with me...but i understand if this is to personal for you.

[burgundia]

War is over and you are battling here...:winksmiley02:

[giovonni]

There is really no argument here? War fuels the great empire (elites) insatible hunger for control (of all) and its profits. Just like we allow poluting our environment for the sake of our spoon fed constant cravings for "things."

For anyone to finally wake -up to these truths of our reality, is not a negative; My generation (the babyboomers) once aspired to this > but sold out! I can accept one's frustration (even anger) regarding this issue, but not the resolve of accepting defeatism.

We all are responsible for our current world situation and conditions. (If) We cannot get beyond this, then those elitist have won. But > what I see now> is their desperation, and many others > still possibly buying into it?

We are born alone and will die alone on this plane, but we are one in consciousness forever. If you don't subscribe to this, then you are in the wrong place here at avalon. I will no longer pledge or support any believe system on this planet that perpetulates this insanity. I will live free or die~ but most likely the latter. as far as i'm concerned the war is over!

I truly look forward too seeing all here in bliss :winksmiley02:

[Leunamros]

.but i understand if this is to personal for you.

Lol, not at all, dont try cheap tactics just to get what you want.

[Céline]

Tactics are not my specialty. I am sure you are well aware of that.

Tell me what you truly think , about the subject of peace workers... or stay away from topics that do not interest you. Stop trying to ambush a thread

just so yo know...cheap doesnt mean bad :winksmiley02:

[Jnana]

For more background on the original "War is Over" campaign:

US vs John Lennon (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=777046699234389996&ei=KLJWSq-3JYWwqQKgvPy_Dw&q=US+vs+John+Lennon&hl=en)

It provides good insight into how politicians view and react to activists who start to become a little too effective. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

If you can, rent the DVD because the extras contain some really good commentary comparing the criminality of the Nixon adminstration to that of the Bush administration, and other good stuff.

I understand the pessimism many feel about making real changes on this dismal planet, but I have a vision of what is possible and I can't give that up.

[burgundia]

Look at the millions of soldiers that choose to be at the armies around the world, they were free to decide to take that job, forget about your absurd ideas of a world without war; this world runs on it and it´s far from being over as it seems. Whenever persons like those exists, and they are not gonna dissapear like some giant evolutional leap you pray for, men and woman, you can still dream forever for throusands of years to come. You have to accept you are part of a poorly evolved and primitive yet animal-like species.

And this is where you are wrong....

[Céline]

http://www.bodymindspiritdirectory.org/OH-Centerville-PeacefulMassage.jpg

[Céline]

i will most definetly look this up, thank you!


For more background on the original "War is Over" campaign:

US vs John Lennon (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=777046699234389996&ei=KLJWSq-3JYWwqQKgvPy_Dw&q=US+vs+John+Lennon&hl=en)

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[Frank Samuel]

As an ol soldier my war is over , as an inhabitant of planet earth each one of us still has a long way to go for our war is within. Our biggest enemy is the one you see in the mirror everyday. It is there where the battle is won or lost.
For a soldier and his family the words the war is over is music to their ears. The battle wounds still remain especially on the emotional side. Making peace is an art few have yet to master. Peace and tranquility , harmony and compassion it is my wish for all of us in this coming year of 2010. As one of the fab 4 once said. All we are saying lets give peace a chance.

[Céline]

http://wanderingbeliever.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/peace_flight.jpg

[swordsmith]

"Agian i ask...we should stop fighting for peace in your opinion??"
Celine, really.... fighting for peace?

Why was Leunamros banned? Is everyone with a strong opinion counter to the peace and love goo going to be banned?
Great, if youv'e discovered your heart but don't throw the brain out with the rose scented bathwater. GEEEZE, how did we get in this mess? By people not being in their hearts? No, by people NOT taking personal responsibility , by giving their minds away.
MIND CONTROL and the new age is all about making people think our minds got us into this mess, far from it.
Some really sweet people go to foreign countries and kill the dearest inhabitants because they are too unaware to know they just completed a course in mind control.

I gave a really good link for people brave enough to look further into their own psyches, here it is again, It's Michael Tsarion
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/12dec/RIR-091217.php

Conciousness is the key to change, and it starts with YOU, certainly not Yoko Ono (a pampered child of the banking elite I might add, there is far more to Ms Ono than her public face). Thinking anyone else is going to fix it or lead the movement by fixing old slogans onto taxis is just another giving away of personal power. Yeah, I bet someone stepping into a taxi on their way to basic training is really going to be provoked , think it over, do the right thing, and hey presto, war is over!!! Cool!

And Celine, a shadow is not well behaved if it is truly your shadow, it's messy and dirty and needs some deep scrutiny . Repress it all you want but if you are human, you have one , maybe you should get acquainted.

Celine, this is not personally aimed at you, you are probably very young and idealistic but you seem to defend this phiosophy and even admire someone you clearly know very little about.
You say perception is everything, if it is only a perception from one viewpoint
it is highly limited and more wishful than truthful.

War will be over one person at a time when each have the courage to face the war inside, and none of this happens with repression of the darkness we ALL carry. If you think you don't have that inside then why do you protest so vehemently when some people do not idolize your chosen hero?

[Céline]

First of all, i appreciate the honest and sincere comments as well as the maturity level of your criticisms..

But.. (lol)

Ok...fighting for peace is like f*cking for virginity..i know i know i could have chosen a better term...my mistake, thank you for pointing it out.

Any questions on banning should be directed at the mods and may i suggest you ask in private.

Our minds..our hearts....quite the balancing game

Soldiers are not always blind to what they do...many are awake...and chose quite clearly to be there, and yes many are brain washed


The war is over campaign is not there to stop soldier from going to war... you cant stop war by stopping the soldiers...i have mentioned this over and over in my posts...it is about visualization.

Tell me, if you have a sore back... you will take a warm bath to sooth it ....does it get rid of the pain? no...but it does help...all we want to do is help.


Get to know my shadow?i know my shadow very well..

Your desire to have me look at my shadow, reminds me of a certain churchs pjilosophy.


My shadow is NOT dirty.... is yours? i guess it is...but did you get it...cleansed? hmmm

and..i do not IDOLIZE anyone...including Yoko... i approuve greatly of her actions in the activist world.....

though i am sure there are TONS of conspiracies about her... all i am judging is certain actions of hers...

Assuming anything about me...or others...is never a good thing.

i am not young.......(ok maybe you are twice my age, and therefore you would think i am young)..... and well ok maybe i am idealistic...

Where did i "protest vehemently?"

i love to talk about subjects with intelligent compassionate people who are polite...and have opposite points of view

if you wish to know more about me...just ask...






"Agian i ask...we should stop fighting for peace in your opinion??"
Celine, really.... fighting for peace?

Why was Leunamros banned? Is everyone with a strong opinion counter to the peace and love goo going to be banned?
Great, if youv'e discovered your heart but don't throw the brain out with the rose scented bathwater. GEEEZE, how did we get in this mess? By people not being in their hearts? No, by people NOT taking personal responsibility , by giving their minds away.
MIND CONTROL and the new age is all about making people think our minds got us into this mess, far from it.
Some really sweet people go to foreign countries and kill the dearest inhabitants because they are too unaware to know they just completed a course in mind control.

I gave a really good link for people brave enough to look further into their own psyches, here it is again, It's Michael Tsarion
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/12dec/RIR-091217.php

Conciousness is the key to change, and it starts with YOU, certainly not Yoko Ono (a pampered child of the banking elite I might add, there is far more to Ms Ono than her public face). Thinking anyone else is going to fix it or lead the movement by fixing old slogans onto taxis is just another giving away of personal power. Yeah, I bet someone stepping into a taxi on their way to basic training is really going to be provoked , think it over, do the right thing, and hey presto, war is over!!! Cool!

And Celine, a shadow is not well behaved if it is truly your shadow, it's messy and dirty and needs some deep scrutiny . Repress it all you want but if you are human, you have one , maybe you should get acquainted.

Celine, this is not personally aimed at you, you are probably very young and idealistic but you seem to defend this phiosophy and even admire someone you clearly know very little about.
You say perception is everything, if it is only a perception from one viewpoint
it is highly limited and more wishful than truthful.

War will be over one person at a time when each have the courage to face the war inside, and none of this happens with repression of the darkness we ALL carry. If you think you don't have that inside then why do you protest so vehemently when some people do not idolize your chosen hero?

[Céline]

http://www.kff.org/about/RedParkaPeaceSign.jpg

[Kundaflower]

Hello Celine...

Ooo, sensitive subject you picked....

If we put John and Yoko aside for a while and look at the their slogan.

I think it was a head of time since it broadcasted message of taking personal
responsibility of ones own life and denied the power of external authority.

If i think how people have been obedient to authoritys trough history that message is still relevant.

So please keep broadcasting....
KF:wub2:

[Céline]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/3067378599_50d04cff4b.jpg

[Céline]

http://www.greenscenes.biz/images/catalog_library/spathiphyllum_peace_lily.jpg

[Céline]

http://www.firstpeople.us/pictures/art/1024x768/Messenger-Of-Peace-1024x768.jpg

[Jnana]

All in favor of endless war, raise your hand.

All opposed?

Make your feelings on the subject known.

[Céline]

Great question...

Endless war seems like torture....

i call for endless balance!!

[Frank Samuel]

War is a reflection of ourselves , often we are not aware that our thoughts and actions has the power to heal and bring peace to our families and our societies.
We accept as normal our internal conflict. We are capable of such beauty and at the other extreme capable of committing such atrocities.We all share in the responsibility for the state in which our world is in. Is easy to point fingers, is hard to take responsibilities for our mistakes. To bring peace even within our families it will take a lot of healing, forgiveness and compassion, even for our oppressors for we as humans and inter-dimensional beings are better than that. We have within each and everyone of us the wisdom to change our world. Our War is over if we choose to ended not by the use of force but the use of the power of our hearts. Is it a dream , can this dream of peace become a reality . Peace is not a given is something we must work at it everyday because it is a reflection of ourselves. No one is perfect yet we could strive to create a world of tranquility, harmony and balance.

[Céline]

No one is perfect yet we could strive to create a world of tranquility, harmony and balance.

That's 2 votes for balance!!

[lovepromoter]

errrm...Balance? :roll1:

p.s. theres a couple of middle fingers and a V in the sign that will go on new your cabs :mfr_lol: awesome...but i hope the message is'nt premature :thumb_yello:

[Céline]

errrm...Balance? :roll1:

p.s. theres a couple of middle fingers and a V in the sign that will go on new your cabs :mfr_lol: awesome...but i hope the message is'nt premature :thumb_yello:

i have no idea what you are taking (or laughing ) at

[lovepromoter]

in england a middle finger or V generally means something offensive an **** word, so tis funny that a) this is promoting peace (or probably more war in the name of it) and b) that it will be promoted on cabs in NY, this is funny **** to me :roll1::roll1:

[Céline]

in england a middle finger or V generally means something offensive an **** word, so tis funny that a) this is promoting peace (or probably more war in the name of it) and b) that it will be promoted on cabs in NY, this is funny **** to me :roll1::roll1:

Laughing is a healthy thing to do.

at any age...

[Céline]

bump

[Christo888]

Hello Celine...

Ooo, sensitive subject you picked....

If we put John and Yoko aside for a while and look at the their slogan.

I think it was a head of time since it broadcasted message of taking personal
responsibility of ones own life and denied the power of external authority.

If i think how people have been obedient to authoritys trough history that message is still relevant.

So please keep broadcasting....
KF:wub2:

What a cool message... of course the personal responsibility part is in and of itself a big subject to participate in but to add another portion or step to that unfoldment as that of denying the power of external authority.

Wow that is so powerful.... deny the power of external authority!

Thank you Kundaflower for that tidbit!!!!:thumb_yello:
I'm going to add that to my signature.:lol3:

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