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Northern Boy
01-04-2010, 08:34 AM
Please be aware members due to recent activities by a group bent on disrupting this forum and their continued presence here I would suggest you read some of the posts you are replying to as some may be filled with ridicule of your beliefs they should be easy to spot and right now I could post two names that are busy posting tonite that are up to it . You response in a sincere manner seems to be fuel for their laughter because they have different beliefs then yours so read what you are posting to, very easily picked out

Angel in Disguise
01-04-2010, 08:36 AM
Point taken...

G9211
01-04-2010, 08:52 AM
Please be aware members do to recent activities by a group bent on disrupting this forum and their continued presence here I would suggest you read some of the posts you are replying to as some may be filled with ridicule of your beliefs they should be easy to spot and right now I could post two names that are busy posting tonite that are up to it . You response in a sincere manner seems to be fuel for their laughter because they have different beliefs then yours so read what you are posting to, very easily picked out

You seemed to accuse me of being sarcastic on the thread, "Is death really a bad thing, I want your opinion," as you quoted one of my posts. I asked you about it but you had not answered me. If it is me you are accusing the do it. I'd also like to know WHY?? Did I say something to offend you? I'm a bit confused. If I am in error, please tell me.

Northern Boy
01-04-2010, 08:58 AM
so what would you have me say to you ?

G9211
01-04-2010, 09:08 AM
so what would you have me say to you ?

In the other thread I was being sincere. I just wondered what you meant when you quoted my post and you stated,

"welcome BACK I see a few of the gang have arrived the sarcastic remarks are not required you do not have too believe what others believe if you have something else to share please tell the members here what it is we have grown tired of the ridicule game. can you not get over that or HAS IT BECOME A STICKING POINT FOR YOU?"

What did I say that made you respond in that way? I had only made one post before tonight and is this the type of welcome you give to newcomers???

HorizonQ2
01-04-2010, 09:09 AM
Can you be more specific? If there is a problem, maybe it would be best to just plainly point it out? What am I looking for? And by whom?

dAkapacity
01-04-2010, 09:50 AM
Hi Northern Boy,

I've read the 'Is Death Really A Bad Thing? I want your opinion' -thread and, if this is what you're referring to, I'm sorry, but I can't seem to spot any ridicule (of another person) in G9211's message. He does have his own right of his views on life and death as long as nobody is being attacked personally.

He said:
I'm so excited knowing I'm immortal with this endless adventure in front of me. This is how I see it.... I use to be kind of an atheist but had some events happened in my life and damn! It turned me around! So death is great, it's BIRTH that sucks! haha

I myself use humor and at times sarcasm without attacking others. It's a way of ventilating thoughts and events. If I do insult someone, I deserve and accept the hit! The problem with humor is that in a 2-D computer reality it is even worse to communicate than in real life (you miss the 75% non-verbal communication). Hope we can all get along in 5-D and up! :thumb_yello:

Because of the problems this forum has with some members wich are willingly creating division and chaos we are in an (over-)alert state. Not everybody is part of the disruptive game. We need to be careful not to create a 'counterwitch hunt'.

I did Vipassana meditation. What you learn there (and in different meditation techniques) is to accept your thoughts and emotions without attaching yourself to them... they eventually leave and you'll be rooted more in the flow of life. Don't want to be an as# -I know most of us know this stuff-, but maybe we can use this technique with (so-called) 'disruptive elements' as well... :smoke:

Thanks for the warning though! I'll do look out!

xxdA.

HorizonQ2
01-04-2010, 09:54 AM
I'm so excited knowing I'm immortal with this endless adventure in front of me. This is how I see it.... I use to be kind of an atheist but had some events happened in my life and damn! It turned me around! So death is great, it's BIRTH that sucks! haha


I agree with this entirely. Dealth is really a birth. We're born once and we die once. But after we die that first time, we live again - forever. Well, some of us, depending on how you decided to treat others here, and all that.

G9211
01-04-2010, 10:01 AM
dAkapacity - You are right! Humor doesn't work well online and I always forget that. My friends on facebook are always reminding me. LOL

HorizonQ2 - you say born once and die once...don't you believe in reincarnation? I do...was just curious.

HorizonQ2
01-04-2010, 10:28 AM
dAkapacity - You are right! Humor doesn't work well online and I always forget that. My friends on facebook are always reminding me. LOL

HorizonQ2 - you say born once and die once...don't you believe in reincarnation? I do...was just curious.

No, I do not believe in reincarnation. I believe that we get one chance. The Earth is a garden. We are the plants growing, and the garden will soon be harvested. The whole point isn't to save the world system (otherwise known as humanity), because that will surely pass away. To put effort into something that will inevitably pass away is pointless. To build on something that is temporary -- silly. A better goal would be to align ones self with what comes afterwards. Myself, for example, I couldn't care less about colonizing space or free energy. I care about people. I care about souls. I care about what will become of people when they take their last breath. Will they be cut off? Or will they be found worthy to live everlasting life, in accordance with the original plans of our Creator?

G9211
01-04-2010, 10:37 AM
No, I do not believe in reincarnation. I believe that we get one chance. The Earth is a garden. We are the plants growing, and the garden will soon be harvested. The whole point isn't to save the world system (otherwise known as humanity), because that will surely pass away. To put effort into something that will inevitably pass away is pointless. To build on something that is temporary -- silly. A better goal would be to align ones self with what comes afterwards. Myself, for example, I couldn't care less about colonizing space or free energy. I care about people. I care about souls. I care about what will become of people when they take their last breath. Will they be cut off? Or will they be found worthy to live everlasting life, in accordance with the original plans of our Creator?

Ok, I respect that, but what about those who have such short lives as opposed to those who live an entire century? For example, children who die before puberty? They didn't get the chance to live long enough to be anything really. I'm just curious how that fits into your belief.

I lean toward the earth is a "school" and we come back to learn different lessons and to try different things.

I guess we won't know for sure til we're dead.

HorizonQ2
01-04-2010, 10:43 AM
Ok, I respect that, but what about those who have such short lives as opposed to those who live an entire century? For example, children who die before puberty? They didn't get the chance to live long enough to be anything really. I'm just curious how that fits into your belief.

I lean toward the earth is a "school" and we come back to learn different lessons and to try different things.

I guess we won't know for sure til we're dead.

I don't know the answers to everything. I just believe that generally, we're born onto this Earth to learn and grow - to prepare for what comes next. I am sure God has a plan for the children who do not make it do adulthood, and I am sure it is a fair plan. If God was not fair, he would not have made such a beautiful planet for us to live on. Shame about what's been done to it though, which is directly causing these premature deaths. We have ourselve's to blame though. We think we've got ot all sorted and don't need God. This is what happens. That's the way I see things.

Anchor
01-04-2010, 10:46 AM
Please be aware members due to recent activities by a group bent on disrupting this forum and their continued presence here I would suggest you read some of the posts you are replying to as some may be filled with ridicule of your beliefs they should be easy to spot and right now I could post two names that are busy posting tonite that are up to it . You response in a sincere manner seems to be fuel for their laughter because they have different beliefs then yours so read what you are posting to, very easily picked out

Perhaps the trigger finger is too itchy - keep the safety catch on please - there are innocent people walking around down range!

I'd like to add even if there were no "recent circumstances" your warning is valid.

Discrimination is the key.

Personally I don't care about being ridiculed. I say what I need to say. If people want to make fun of me - that's ok too.

The line is crossed at disruption (amongst other things).

A..

G9211
01-04-2010, 10:48 AM
What we do to the planet, we are doing to ourselves. Pretty logical to me, it amazes me that more people don't understand. But to be fair....it took me about 37 years to figure it out.

Céline
01-04-2010, 11:58 AM
This is a very good piece of advice for any forum


and though some commented here about death.... i will go check the other thread to make my comment.

mkspllmn
01-04-2010, 01:41 PM
You seemed to accuse me of being sarcastic on the thread, "Is death really a bad thing, I want your opinion," as you quoted one of my posts. I asked you about it but you had not answered me. If it is me you are accusing the do it. I'd also like to know WHY?? Did I say something to offend you? I'm a bit confused. If I am in error, please tell me.

I thought your answer was sincere. No problem here!

ellie
01-04-2010, 02:00 PM
Well I suppose one has to be open about people and threads in general. But I happen to know Northern Boy very well and he and I and other members also know very, very well how conniving and serpentine certain people who have reared their heads on this forum since it went free can be.

At least NB has had the intestinal fortitude to keep an eye out and warn good spiritual loving people on this forum about the people who were awake at one time and are now receding into the dark because of fear of losing their mortal shell. That is all I will say because I know Anchor very well as well and I am sure because I have dared to post here again he will come straight in and ban me.

Well A, go on and push the darn button bud.:naughty:

Kudos Northern, I appreciate what your doing as a watcher for the unaware and to you other people..........

Wake up and have a :cup:

Shairia
01-04-2010, 02:27 PM
The problem is that if you close yourself down to paranoia about forum disruptors the they have achieved their aim. You have to move forward and leave it in the past. Members here are very perceptive and can deal with problems as they arise. I for one am tired of reading about these past events, lets move on.

burgundia
01-04-2010, 02:38 PM
I was so busy trying to expose those who came here with a certain agenda that now I am tired of it. especially that the moderators didn't like it very much. There were 2 waves...some of them have been banned, some are still here, arriving new every day or just having been here for some time ....they are waiting for their turn...their tactics have changed too...I know who they are, it is so obvious from their posts....now i do not even bother to read what they write and other members' responses either...

dAkapacity
01-04-2010, 02:43 PM
Amen Shairia! :thumb_yello:

xxdA.

mntruthseeker
01-04-2010, 04:22 PM
NB is very good at providing protection as he is quite the warrior and a really big heart

I can understand perfectly well where he is coming from and its understandable.

The last two weeks have been filled with many new people and even some using more than one name. Paranoida did come in but when being attacked with PM's as he and others have been it comes pretty easily. He was writing this thread to forewarn the rest of us.

So when you are being personally attacked as some have been, it's easy to understand the thread.

Anchor has made a valid point. As I too, no longer care if I am ridiculed. I know me as being honest in what I say even if I may be wrong. How else does one learn ?

So I too will send Kudos to NB but in the same token will say, let them ridicule away, it actually goes back unto themselfs. I have been guilty of doing this myself so I know. It saves yourself grief and you walk away the winner. Who needs it ?

cantaloupe
01-04-2010, 06:37 PM
NB, you may have developed some degree of troll sensitivity. We sensitive types are, well, sensitive to that sort of behavior.
For me, it's always interesting to note the ways people disrupt, because when I I can operate from a working understanding of it , I can usually be less reactive.
They have you, if looking out for whoever they are distracts you or diminishes what you do while you're here. Or worse, if you see them when they're not even there.
I always look to your well written contributions.
Happy new year.
Cantaloupe

WinterWolf
01-06-2010, 06:41 AM
Creator help me. I can't believe this thread even exists.
Northernboy actually made this thread to warn forum members about disruptive posters....

So now we have self appointed people who are going to be the forums watchdogs? What do folk take the Moderators as? Chopped liver? People whine and moan when they seemingly aren't doing their jobs and whine and moan some more when they are doing their jobs.

Was it really necessary to start this thread? I certainly hope folk posting to this forum have at least two brain cells to rub together and are discerning enough to spot the ones who are causing trouble. I sincerely hope most people here are capable of seeing the problems on the forum themselves....

If not I think it is time for me to leave permanently. I'm sure there are folk out there that would be happy to see me go.

Amazing. Just amazing....

I think I'll pretend I didn't come across this thread.

Winter Wolf

burgundia
01-06-2010, 12:57 PM
Creator help me. I can't believe this thread even exists.
Northernboy actually made this thread to warn forum members about disruptive posters....

So now we have self appointed people who are going to be the forums watchdogs? What do folk take the Moderators as? Chopped liver? People whine and moan when they seemingly aren't doing their jobs and whine and moan some more when they are doing their jobs.

Was it really necessary to start this thread? I certainly hope folk posting to this forum have at least two brain cells to rub together and are discerning enough to spot the ones who are causing trouble. I sincerely hope most people here are capable of seeing the problems on the forum themselves....

If not I think it is time for me to leave permanently. I'm sure there are folk out there that would be happy to see me go.

Amazing. Just amazing....

I think I'll pretend I didn't come across this thread.

Winter Wolf
and I'll pretend that I didn't read your post....

Stargazer1965
01-06-2010, 01:06 PM
Creator help me. I can't believe this thread even exists.
Northernboy actually made this thread to warn forum members about disruptive posters....

So now we have self appointed people who are going to be the forums watchdogs? What do folk take the Moderators as? Chopped liver? People whine and moan when they seemingly aren't doing their jobs and whine and moan some more when they are doing their jobs.

Was it really necessary to start this thread? I certainly hope folk posting to this forum have at least two brain cells to rub together and are discerning enough to spot the ones who are causing trouble. I sincerely hope most people here are capable of seeing the problems on the forum themselves....

If not I think it is time for me to leave permanently. I'm sure there are folk out there that would be happy to see me go.

Amazing. Just amazing....

I think I'll pretend I didn't come across this thread.

Winter Wolf
WW you must be a parent that you can so easily "tune" out the noise and disruptions.....lol

G9211
01-06-2010, 01:24 PM
and I'll pretend that I didn't read your post....

:mfr_lol:

WinterWolf
01-06-2010, 06:16 PM
No. I'm not a parent. Nor do I need to be to to be able to have filters in place.

Burgania, keep patting yourself on the back with your fine whit.

I'd forgotten how cliquish this board is. There are those of you out there who like to speak on behalf of someone else specially when posts were not specifically directed towards you. Is that person incapable of speakng for themselves that they need someone else to speak for them?

you lot deride folks who have diffent view points and call in your buddies for reinforcement. Typical.

Just my .02 cents

Winter Wolf

Humble Janitor
01-06-2010, 06:35 PM
If people want to ridicule you, let them.

Chances are, they're totally full of **** and it will make you look better to brush it off.

THE eXchanger
01-06-2010, 06:39 PM
If people want to ridicule you, let them.

Chances are, they're totally full of **** and it will make you look better to brush it off.

that is good advise, humble janitor ;)

iT iS TYME for the i-magi = to awaken iN everyone

Stargazer1965
01-06-2010, 07:09 PM
No. I'm not a parent. Nor do I need to be to to be able to have filters in place.

Burgania, keep patting yourself on the back with your fine whit.

I'd forgotten how cliquish this board is. There are those of you out there who like to speak on behalf of someone else specially when posts were not specifically directed towards you. Is that person incapable of speakng for themselves that they need someone else to speak for them?

you lot deride folks who have diffent view points and call in your buddies for reinforcement. Typical.

Just my .02 cents

Winter Wolf

WW..Burgundia and I really don't speak and aren't in the same circles.

I'm just wondering why you feel "singled" out??

I wouldn't be here if I did not question authority and long have I trusted the power "in place" and been let down.

So if someone wants to step up and speak to the masses of some "danger" ...then let them speak and not criticize them for raising their voice.

Peace

Kulapops
01-06-2010, 07:10 PM
Judge a book by its cover I say, especially if it's got large bright coloured pictures on the front and big easy to read letters.

...and judge people by their actions. I'm a newbie when it comes to forums, and in fact, this is probably the only forum I have any kind of familiarity with. However, it's pretty easy to feel where people are coming from, for example you can tell by how they write WHEN THEY ARE UPSET.

Even if they don't use capital letters, the message always comes through. Even if someone says...we should all be friends....and you read a few paragraphs, you might think... 'whoah... hold on?!'

Let us not forget, that with the best will in the world, we all have an ego, and that ego wants to defend itself to the hilt. And that means its ideas and values. Some egos don't mind interacting with other ones and even don't mind having other points of view pointed out to it. Some do. Me, I watch out for the ones that seem to be minding... then keep my wonderful opinion to myself. It's only happened to me a few times... usually when I've posted something really positive, someone will come and punch a hole in it. But that's just physics. Positive attracts negative. You can't get away from it.

But if we can ever get to understanding that the positive and negative are part of the same unity. Woah !

Peace n love to all

K :wub2:

On rereading, I feel I should add to this, that the only real way to judge the proper context of debates in a forum is to get to know the people on it gradually. After reading dozens of their posts and seeing how they comment on the affairs of others, you get to know them. even if you don't 'know' them. So it can be tricky for the existing 'clan' if someone joins the forum and immediately starts making assumptions about the people who are already there. This isn't cliquishness in my opinion, more a sense of family. I've posted here (not much, you can see) since over a year. And some of those other posters I recognise, and I have a warm sense of communion when I see they are about to write their opinion on something.

Newcomers, i think are mostly treated with open arms and a warm welcome. But it's hard to know them until they've posted a bit, and you see what they post about. If they instantly get into wrangles with longstanding members, I can see why Northern Boy would want to warn others of this. As we all have such different backgrounds, it's hard to judge who is overreacting. So if I want to judege, I'd just follow the thread for a bit... and when , sometime later, a different topic comes up and I see the same posters, I read what they have to say with interest, and slowly my opinion of them forms. From this experience, I have the highest regard for posters like Mudra, Rhythm, Swanny, Anchor, Burgundia...but there are dozens more like them.

So be welcome in this forum Winter Wolf, watch the threads and I think you will see that it is not cliques that are being defended, but a warm environment to be shared with as many as possible.

chelmostef
01-06-2010, 07:55 PM
Mudra, Rhythm, Swanny, Anchor, Burgundia

I think Kulapops is certainly on this list too, as like you say are many more too

Stargazer1965
01-06-2010, 08:16 PM
WW..Burgundia and I really don't speak and aren't in the same circles.

I'm just wondering why you feel "singled" out??

I wouldn't be here if I did not question authority and long have I trusted the power "in place" and been let down.

So if someone wants to step up and speak to the masses of some "danger" ...then let them speak and not criticize them for raising their voice.

Peace
Now KPops...that's my peep.....:original:

WinterWolf
01-06-2010, 09:19 PM
WW..Burgundia and I really don't speak and aren't in the same circles.

I'm just wondering why you feel "singled" out??

I wouldn't be here if I did not question authority and long have I trusted the power "in place" and been let down.

So if someone wants to step up and speak to the masses of some "danger" ...then let them speak and not criticize them for raising their voice.

Peace

BMW is not supposed to say BMW. Was supposed to be family after community. Stupid phone. I can't scroll down to fix so..


I do not feel singled out at all. Why should I? My comment is a counter balance or opposite viewpoint on what I have observed on this forum. The treatment of people on this forum can be rather abysmal. You have cliques. You have infighting and you have the us versus them behavior.

You and I do no mean anyone in particular, cannot change a person. You can change yourself though. In my opinion it is through self change that the environment around us, the people we interact with changes. If you cannot see yourself. How do you expect to see others?

How can anyone foster peace in the world if peace cannot be found within a forum? How can there be lasting peace within a community or a BMW if this is how we treat each other?

Some people have posted that Love is one, one is Love etc. Yet what I have seen thus far is far from Love.

I do no speak for anyone else. I speak for myself. These are only my opinions on what I have seen on this board.

This forum is supposed to have a few thousand members an yet a small percentage post. Why is that? Grante there is nothin wron with lurking either.

Winter Wolf

Céline
01-06-2010, 10:00 PM
Ridicule...in ANY form is destructive...

Kulapops
01-06-2010, 10:02 PM
Hi Winter Wolf

I think you are so right to say that we can only change ourselves. And that through self change, the environment around us changes.

Spot on.

And yes all the rest is opinion.

I look forward to reading more of your opinions and getting to know you. I think I recognise your name. It must be from back near the start. Have not read much of what you've written so far, but no doubt will be reading more.

:welcomeani:

K

mudra
01-06-2010, 10:10 PM
If we could all let everyone else be what he wants to be and trust that what he is good at he will do well in respect and honor of the greater good of the community we would have no problem.

If we start to think as individuated selfs than conflict will always arise but if we see each other as a whole living organism respect and kindness will replace doubt and judgement.

When a living organism is sound it's not subject to invasion of viruses . It can counter these easily .
A living organism to function well as lungs to let oxygen in ,Heart and blood flowing to nourish all cells , a stomach to digest food , intestines to let waste products out , white cells to counter foreign and inappropriate material, a brain to compute and synchronize it all .These are all vital.

Likewise a community when seen as a whole need these very same parts to function harmoniously .
Each individual has it's own role to play which according to it's own unique soul signature and experience will best fit anyone of these parts.

Understanding this one can see there is room for everyone and that the gathering of all as a whole is what keeps it in balance.

When our immune system as a community is sound then disruptive elements won't even have a chance to destroy our balance . So let's all work on ourselves and learn from each other's respective nature. In this way we will grow stronger in wisdom and won't be affected by any outside threats .

Until we each reach that point of perfect balance our guardians will have their role to play and we should respect them for doing so.

So if Northern Boy feels he would be good at that role why not elect him as a mod ? He is a well respected Old timer here .

Love Always
mudra

Anchor
01-06-2010, 11:54 PM
The original poster has requested this thread be removed.

We dont like removing things unless there is a really good reason to do so, but I will close this thread now.