View Full Version : Why are police chiefs stepping down all over USA?
NorthernSanctuary
01-10-2010, 04:01 AM
What are they seeing in the future that makes them leave a good paying job in a depression?
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"The median expected salary for a typical Sheriff/Police Chief in the United States is $93,980. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies."
http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national_lg12000025.html
Phoenix police chief steps down (April 16)
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2009/04/_phoenix_police_chief_jack.php
Gate City, TN police chief steps down (May 30)
http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9014119
Newport Beach, CA police chief down (June 9)
http://www.ocregister.com/news/chief-113632-klein-city.html
Glendale, CA police chief steps down in July
http://www.glendalenewspress.com/articles/2009/04/08/publicsafety/gnp-adams08.txt
Detroit police chief steps down (July 3)
[http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/07/seven_months_after_appointment.html
Boone, NC police chief stepping down (July 4)
http://wilkes-news.com/archives/2009/07/04/boone-police-chief-bill-post-is-stepping-down-at-the-end-of-july/
Post Falls, ID police chief stepping down (July 10)
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/jul/10/post-falls-police-chief-stepping-down/
Benton Harbor, MI police chief steps down (July 21)
http://www.wndu.com/specialfeatures/headlines/51340972.html
Grand Junction, CO police chief stepping down (July 22)
http://www.gjsentinel.com/biz/content/news/stories/2009/12/20/122009_1a_chief_search.html
Alexandria police chief steps down (July 29)
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Alexandria-Police-Chief-Steps-Down.html
Anchorage, AK police chief stepping down (Aug. 3)
http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=10838748
Logan police chief steps down (Aug. 4)
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12989790
Los Angeles Police chief steps down (Aug. 5)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/08/los-angeles-police-chief-william-bratton.html
Arnold, PA police chief steps down (Aug. 5)
http://pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/s_636867.html
Clover, SC police chief steps down (Aug. 12)
http://www.enquirerherald.com/356/story/810497.html
Lincoln, Maine police chief steps down (Aug. 13)
http://www.wabi.tv/news/7092/lincoln-police-chief-stepping-down
BART police chief resigns (Aug. 16)
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local&id=6967388
Monterey, CA police chief steps down, along with the Mayor and City Manager (Aug. 17)
http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/archives/2009/2009-Aug-13/darius-engles-says-hes-had-enough-too/1/
Camden, NJ police director steps down (Aug. 20)
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/08/camden_police_director_plans_t.html
Ardmore, OK police chief steps down (Aug. 25)
http://newsok.com/embattled-ardmore-police-chief-david-leonardo-steps-down/article/3395401
Little Falls, NJ police chief retires (Aug. 27)
http://www.northjersey.com/news/Chief_Hunter_retires_after_serving_38_years.html
Albany police chief steps down (Sept. 1)
http://blog.timesunion.com/localpolitics/4714/tuffey-stepping-down-as-albany-police-chief/
Irwindale, CA police chief stepping down (Sept. 4)
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_13271378
LAX airport security chief stepping down (Sept. 9)
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_13294022
New Castle, Delaware police chief stepping down (Sept. 11)
http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=730921376218
Mount Airy, NC police chief stepping down in October
http://www.mtairynews.com/pages/full_story/push?article-City+police+chief+stepping+down%2520&id=2677281
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Wormhole
01-10-2010, 04:10 AM
Northern,
I can not thank you enough for compiling this information and bringing it to everyone's attention.
I have a feeling that this is a strange portent to times to come. One of two things may be occurring: Either the corrupt are stepping down, or the regular guys that are in the chief spots are being pressured to leave. (Which could be the sign of the fist getting tighter) Through you research, have you gleaned a reason why that seems to be congruent throughout?
Thanks again,
Wormhole
Wormhole
01-10-2010, 04:24 AM
Of course, conspiracy aside, it has a high turnover perhaps because the job itself is so difficult to manage for any long span of time...
DenisSelivanov
01-10-2010, 04:35 AM
Maybe they want better cheese
Wormhole
01-10-2010, 04:36 AM
Yes, the cheese must be it. :lol3:
orthodoxymoron
01-10-2010, 04:51 AM
It would be interesting to travel the country...interviewing these people. Civil unrest...with or without NWO or Alien agendas is probably a very real concern at this time. I sure wouldn't want to crack down on my friends and neighbors...legitimately or illegitimately.
:original:Namaste:original:
Christo888
01-10-2010, 05:12 AM
And 6 out of 26 are in California!:shocked:
NorthernSanctuary
01-10-2010, 07:52 AM
Here's one plausible answer as to why when someone asked ZetaTalk:
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Everyone has their eyes on those in top government positions, or in Congress, or in NASA, or the very wealthy, or those running large corporations. Are they retiring or disappearing from public view, suddenly, in great numbers, and is this a clue that the pole shift is imminent? Thus, a recent exodus of police chiefs almost escaped notice. Is this merely coincidental, or is there a reason for the exodus? Those in law enforcement at the local level consider the community their home, and those they must muscle in any confrontation neighbors. Thus, when new rules come down from the state and especially the federal level on what to do during rioting or mass migration, the expectation that local police will have to turn their guns on their friends and neighbors runs against the grain. Emergency management meetings and notices are NOT public fare, and thus the public is not aware of the chatter. The economy falters. Individuals stressed by job loss and home foreclosure are exploding into rage and turning this on themselves and others with increasing frequency. But it is the anticipation that major flooding or earthquakes will produce massive numbers wanting to migrate within the country that is the prevailing concern of late. In these cases, migration is to be blocked, and controlled. Guns turned on families with babes in arms is not something these police chiefs signed up for, and they are declining the new rules by retiring, their only option.
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morguana
01-10-2010, 09:12 AM
Exellent topic northern sanctury, and some very good theories on why they have stepped down. It seems an amazing amount of police chiefs! I wonder what the usual rate of retirement is?
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LucidJia
01-10-2010, 10:01 AM
They know somethings coming. They dont want to be responsible for actions that will be taken in the heat of the moment.
Allot of politicians are getting out now too.
Namaste, Jia.
Swanny
01-10-2010, 11:39 AM
Rats deserting a sinking ship????:sneaky2:
WiNaDeYo
01-10-2010, 12:36 PM
Wow, NS! This is quite enlightening!
Regardless of their personal intentions and reasonings...the minions are pulling out!
Let us hope that they are "good guys" taking a stand on what they believe is right and/or wrong.
Thanks for this information!
Céline
01-10-2010, 12:42 PM
Very interresting perspective NS...
i would ask if someone could research a question for me. i do not have the research skills nor the time (flowers are calling me!!) to do this right now...
What is the average "turn over" for these jobs?
viking
01-10-2010, 12:55 PM
Mmmmm strange isn't it....Look what B Fulford had said in his latest blog...
"There is much more we cannot report but the news is very, very good."
Jan. 9, 2010
The octopus is dying: 5 Kissinger associates killed; Kissinger missing-presumed dead
Five senior associates of Henry (Heinz) Kissinger were killed on December 12, 2009 and Kissinger himself has been missing since that time and is now presumed dead, according to senior intelligence sources. Furthermore, the Texas law firm Troutman Sanders, which functioned as the central nexus of the Bush/Nazi crime families financial operations, has been shut down by Interpol, according to these senior intelligence sources. The firm has been contacted but has not returned our e-mail at the time of writing this.
The heads of the Bush clan have been put under house arrest and CIA chief Panetta has been silenced, the sources say. We are also hearing President Obama and Vice-President Biden will be removed from power and replaced by Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton possibly by late January. There is a lot of chaos and confusion on the ranks of the Nazis as a result of these most recent developments.
We can also independently confirm much of what heroic journalist Christopher Story wrote in his ground-breaking January 7th report.
There is much more we cannot report but the news is very, very good.
viking
burgundia
01-10-2010, 01:32 PM
This is worth monitoring....
Mizar
01-11-2010, 03:21 AM
Nice Post NS;
Smells like regular guys stepping down under pressure
Dilution/loss of authority may be the key here, if someone/something else has authority, why be top Dog anymore? Take all the shame, all the blame, for what? It takes a lot for these guys to turn in the Shield after all these years, something big is afoot, thanks for the warning.
Mizar
Roman195
01-12-2010, 07:08 AM
We got a sheriff in this county that listens more to the court system than the people. So he is going up for re-election, which saddens me. He enjoys the power and greed this gives him, I suppose. Thus this could be a person who would fire at families in distress. Greed is a sickness..Most former and present Sheriffs in this county live above their saleries. You can see it in the cars they drive and the homes they live in. They rob from the poor and give to themselves.
Roman:mfr_omg:
Steve_A
01-12-2010, 09:37 AM
Hi NorthernSanctuary,
I can't see anything strange in the list. The first name on the list did not step down as police chief, he stepped down from a training board.
Another police chief should have retired a year ago but retired presently, another has been in public service 37 years and wanted a break, one was asked to step down by the town mayor. The vast majority of police chiefs that stepped down did so to retire.
The story of Bent Harbour is of the new chief of police and what he is wanting to do to lower the crime rate? the story ofrom the gsentinal is that the police chief wants to stay? Alexandrias' police chief is retiring because he was arrested for DUI.
I'm quite suprised that you posted this thread because if you looked at the stories, each and every has its' own reasons. If the headlines were that the police chiefs retired without reason, we could discuss the "what do they know" subject.
Also, retiring during a depression if you're a police chief is probalby a good thing, as the retirement package is probably quite generous for these functions. Why not retire from one function, collect your pension and be a
'consultant' to make extra cash. I would argue that there has never been a better time to retire as a police chief, but then I'm just playing devils' advocate here.
Best regards,
Steve
What are they seeing in the future that makes them leave a good paying job in a depression?
"
"The median expected salary for a typical Sheriff/Police Chief in the United States is $93,980. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies."
http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national_lg12000025.html
gscraig
01-12-2010, 05:50 PM
I would have to disagree with your summation Steve A.
I decided to do the same research as you, when I saw this list to see if there were any patterns in verbage, reasons, etc. I even looked into the time frame to see if there was a benefitl for those in that position to retire a certain time (day or month in the year) to maximize pensions, taxes, etc, but not the case.
However, the premise of your conclusion even considering the economy, does not remove the question being a very valid one. After all, NS presented the thread topic as a question, so the information/curious pattern was only being presented out of curiosity and perhaps for some clarity or feedback.
We were not going find reasons being given such as "I'm resigning due to the Martial Law coming" or "There's a pole shift I have to be prepared for".
That was not going to happen, though there are a couple of instances for example such as the Gate City, TN PChief who gave no reason, and did not comment when it was sought by the media.
In my opinion, it remains to be a good post and curious pattern for pondering.
Jonah
01-12-2010, 06:55 PM
This happened in New Orleans during katrina... many police officers failed to report in... when humans are collectively trying to stay alive...the "agenda" goes out the window.
housemouse2
01-12-2010, 11:10 PM
With the exception of the six all from CA the rest of the list doesn't seem that strange. Especially considering the number of sheriffs and police chiefs in the country. And CA is bankrupt.
counties are in 48 of 50 states. An average of 62 counties per state. 48 times 62 equals 2,976 sheriffs on average. one elected sheriff per county.
Police chiefs are more city bound. there are 273 cities with a population of 100,000 or more in the USA. That's 273 police chiefs right there.
That's not including smaller cities with independent police departments of which I can think of 2 such cities in my county alone. each with their own police chief.
26 out of thousands is not an unusual number of resignations. especially considering there are 350 million people in the USA alone.
gscraig
01-14-2010, 05:58 PM
It is strange indeed when 26 of those are occurring in a span of 7 months and there's no indicator of this behavior previously (despite economy). To be honest especially in todays economy, unless they were forced out, these individuals would be keeping their jobs, not leaving them.
If you equate that and no other positions similar in nature and in CA (first responders, Fire Chiefs, Officers, etc) that is exposed to the same calculations you provided per state, per city, per County, the math becomes somewhat nullified.
I am one whom knows how numbers do not and cannot tell the whole story when the story is driven by human behaviors.
At any rate, it's all speculative and again, curious IMO.
Oooo, and I didn't use the word disagree. I'm working on that :-)
With the exception of the six all from CA the rest of the list doesn't seem that strange. Especially considering the number of sheriffs and police chiefs in the country. And CA is bankrupt.
counties are in 48 of 50 states. An average of 62 counties per state. 48 times 62 equals 2,976 sheriffs on average. one elected sheriff per county.
Police chiefs are more city bound. there are 273 cities with a population of 100,000 or more in the USA. That's 273 police chiefs right there.
That's not including smaller cities with independent police departments of which I can think of 2 such cities in my county alone. each with their own police chief.
26 out of thousands is not an unusual number of resignations. especially considering there are 350 million people in the USA alone.
sjkted
01-14-2010, 07:52 PM
One way to take a look at this would be to put it in perspective. How often do police chiefs normally step down? What were the statistics like 5, 10, 15 years ago? Anyone?
--sjkted
sjkted
01-14-2010, 07:55 PM
Just as a side note, do these people get substantial retirement benefits when they retire/step down? I've heard stories about higher ranking public workers in California such as police chiefs and firemen stepping down, continuing to receive 50% pay as part of their retirement/compensation package even though they do no work for the city, and then taking another job which gives them an even higher income and perhaps less stress and responsibilities.
--sjkted
gscraig
02-07-2010, 02:17 PM
Hello sjkted
Solid insightful ponderings, but in my opinion, they are not plausible enough to explain the exodus of so many.
If this was based on benefits advantages, we would see these type of retirements in numbers every 10-20+ years (depending upon eligibility). However, some of these were less than 7 years in service. You would also have a known position publicly for high turnover, therefore, amongst many scenarios this create, the obvious would have been to re-evaluate the retirement particulars of such a critical position.
I believe I seen a thread with more resignations of first reponders in a short time frame. I will look it up and perhaps post it here.
Seashore
02-07-2010, 04:15 PM
What are they seeing in the future that makes them leave a good paying job in a depression?
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"The median ... geographies."
http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national_lg12000025.html
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NS,
You have quotation marks but I don't see who you're quoting...
Are you quoting a ZetaTalk article?
Fredkc
02-07-2010, 04:56 PM
TheRebel posted a list on this subject over here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=234661&postcount=75
this morning.
Now take a breath... take two. The list is some 70 cities long.
Next consider that the US has over 42,000 communities. 70:42,000 doesn't sound statistically any higher than say, the number of fry cooks at McDucks, or greeters at Wally-Mart, or bank tellers, that change jobs each year.
Should we be wondering what they know?
Also consider that the large percentage of current police chiefs are also Boomers. And as a Boomer meself, I can tell you I am very tired of all the BS, and can't wait to bail on the economy, the system, and whatever else you got.
:D Fred
Seashore
02-07-2010, 05:24 PM
TheRebel posted a list on this subject over here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=234661&postcount=75
this morning.
Now take a breath... take two. The list is some 70 cities long.
Next consider that the US has over 42,000 communities. 70:42,000 doesn't sound statistically any higher than say, the number of fry cooks at McDucks, or greeters at Wally-Mart, or bank tellers, that change jobs each year.
Should we be wondering what they know?
Also consider that the large percentage of current police chiefs are also Boomers. And as a Boomer meself, I can tell you I am very tired of all the BS, and can't wait to bail on the economy, the system, and whatever else you got.
:D Fred
His link is http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&tbo=1&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1/1/2010,cd_max:12/31/2010&q=%22chief+of+police%22+OR+%22Police+chief%22+%2Br esigns+OR+retires+OR+quits&start=0&sa=N&fp=1&cad=b
I'm trying to figure out who put the list together in the first place...
Personally, I would like it if they all resigned - in protest. Our police are being militarized by the Feds.
I would like to see lots of people resign in protest. I call this a peaceful revolution (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15487).
Ravencalls
02-07-2010, 06:15 PM
Should we be wondering what they know?..... ~~~~
We SHOULD be worried about our own safety no doubt!
Seashore
02-07-2010, 07:21 PM
Should we be wondering what they know?..... ~~~~!
I'm thinking that they could be under pressure to resign so that the controllers can replace them with foreign troops/contractors.
Or, they could be resigning because they don't want to carry out orders they're getting.
Ravencalls
02-07-2010, 08:47 PM
Seashore said..> so that the controllers can replace them with foreign troops/contractors. ~
I think that when the time comes.... there will be much resistance from people that are NOT brainwashed into thinking that THEY are the authority..
but yes!!.. both your suggestions do make sense..
Im sure some Chiefs of police will rather loose their work and all that comes with it...
. than to risk going against what they believe is RIGHT!.
Seashore
02-07-2010, 09:19 PM
Im sure some Chiefs of police will rather loose their work and all that comes with it...
. than to risk going against what they believe is RIGHT!.
Yes, and it's my hope that we all pull together to help out people of all occupations who quit rather than carry out tasks that further the New World Order agenda... It's not just the police who will be on the spot - it's our military, employees of Homeland Security, health care workers if a new push for vaccinations happens...
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