View Full Version : Colloidal Silver vs Oxy Silver
yiolas
01-10-2010, 07:03 PM
Hi everyone !
I'm planning to reorder my Colloidal Silver. I've purchased in the past
from GNC "Nutraceutical' 30PPM Colloidal Sivler.
However, I am tempted to order Oxy Silver as marketed by Dr. Horowitz.
It is $20 more expensive though. Has any one tried Oxy Silver ?
Moxie
01-10-2010, 07:44 PM
Hi Violas! ... hope you are doing well!
The only difference that I've seen is the Oxy is recommended to be taken internal, however, I am very skeptical about internal use,
I'm not yet persuaded beyond maybe a day or two.
For topical use, I don't think it matters which one.
Curative
01-10-2010, 08:05 PM
Why don't you make your own?
It's easy once you have the components.
Here's a handy DIY guide I came across last year.
http://www.ehow.com/how_2136254_own-colloidal-silver-ounces-time.html
Horrowitz recommends an ideal PPM of 5 for internal usage.
mntruthseeker
01-10-2010, 09:38 PM
Why don't you make your own?
It's easy once you have the components.
Here's a handy DIY guide I came across last year.
http://www.ehow.com/how_2136254_own-colloidal-silver-ounces-time.html
Horrowitz recommends an ideal PPM of 5 for internal usage.
Yes, deffinately make your own. I have been doing this for over two years as we use it daily for many many different things
Nothing wrong with indigesting it. Keep it clean and use pure water you will do just fine.
yiolas
01-10-2010, 09:51 PM
Thanks for replying everyone ! Hi Moxie, I'm doing great. I'm trying to stay prepared and have everything that I need at hand.
If I were to make my own Colloidal Silver, how would I know what strength it is , ie., 10ppm, 20ppm etc. ? Additionally, how do you know that the silver particles are actually tiny and fit to take internally ?
Christo888
01-10-2010, 09:58 PM
Thanks for replying everyone ! Hi Moxie, I'm doing great. I'm trying to stay prepared and have everything that I need at hand.
If I were to make my own Colloidal Silver, how would I know what strength it is , ie., 10ppm, 20ppm etc. ? Additionally, how do you know that the silver particles are actually tiny and fit to take internally ?
Here is a great resource.
http://www.elixa.com/silver/index.html
Can I ask ... if you were to take too much silver or the particles were too big what would happen to you?
I mean afterall the water you drink and bathe in is poisoned, the air you breath is full of toxins, the material objects you purchase are typically full of crude components, and the food you eat is synthetic or is sprayed with chemical and synthetic substance... so what's to worry about.:lol3:
Moxie
01-10-2010, 10:25 PM
holding a silver coin, eating w/a silver spoon...
if homeopathics work, might not that?
okaaaaaaaaay so I'm ig-nernt...
all I know is that I ingested colloidal silver way back in the 80's when it first came out, the colloidal silver... after 3 days I suffered a UTI
so I figured it was killing off the good bacteria too.... I remain cautious for internal use.
But then, recently it was discovered that the appendix is a storehouse for beneficial bacteria, and, alas, mine was removed when I was 26 during a gallbladder surgery, so perhaps that is why my system suffers from using colloidal silver internally... just an assumption, but it rings true.
I too was (almost) persuaded to buy Horowitz's product, had it parked in the basket at least 3 times... my intuition said "nyah". lol
Cayenne pepper is awesome against pathogens, don't forget! Much cheaper too!
Hey Violas - the hens are SO productive, I'm a real farmer now!
Christo888
01-10-2010, 10:41 PM
holding a silver coin, eating w/a silver spoon...
if homeopathics work, might not that?
okaaaaaaaaay so I'm ig-nernt...
all I know is that I ingested colloidal silver way back in the 80's when it first came out, the colloidal silver... after 3 days I suffered a UTI
so I figured it was killing off the good bacteria too.... I remain cautious for internal use.
But then, recently it was discovered that the appendix is a storehouse for beneficial bacteria, and, alas, mine was removed when I was 26 during a gallbladder surgery, so perhaps that is why my system suffers from using colloidal silver internally... just an assumption, but it rings true.
I too was (almost) persuaded to buy Horowitz's product, had it parked in the basket at least 3 times... my intuition said "nyah". lol
Cayenne pepper is awesome against pathogens, don't forget! Much cheaper too!
Hey Violas - the hens are SO productive, I'm a real farmer now!
Such as the allegorical storylines of the properties of Silver throughout all.
The Silver Bullet kills the vampire!!!!
A Silver Cross holds them at bay.
The Silver Spooner is born and remains wealthy... (there is nothing wrong with great wealth when in balanced use).
The Silver Surfer transforms the soul...
The Silvery Moon supports the ebb and flow of Gaia.
The very nature of Silver as a substance is all about support, health, conductivity of energy, and it is the Crescent Moon symbol that represents Silver...
... go back throughout history's and re-discover the secrets of the Crescent Moon, but don't tell anyone,:wink2: Merlin might hand you a fire breathing dragon!:lmao: Violet fire that is.
mntruthseeker
01-10-2010, 10:43 PM
when you first start using colloidal silver you will need to make it using 5, which is the smallest amount possible.
Now, anytime you use colloidal silver or anything really, the nasty crud has to leave your body some how.............I never heard of it causing any kind of infection as it is one of the best anti-biotics one can use.
In my family alone we have cleared up, acne, psorsis, dandruff, athelete feet,ear aches, pink eye, infected toe after surgery, (that was nasty and it cleared it up over night)
My sister uses it on her pets. Its also good to put a few drops in your bath water to remove the nasty crud they use in our water. It worse to bathe in the water than drinking it. It closes up your pores
I can go on and on and on.............on how great this is
I have used it for two years and drink it every day...........as we put it in our coffee to remove the harshness and it stops my husband from getting acid from drinking coffee...............a bad habit, I know
Sideshow Shaman
01-10-2010, 10:54 PM
And there's another silver option that should be considered...
Tetrasilver Tetroxide (http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:8cAONbOZE7YJ:www.aidanceproducts.co m/tetrasilver.html+tetrasilver+site:http://www.aidanceproducts.com&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us), available as Terrasil (http://www.aidanceproducts.com/product_terrasil.html). This product is used topically to treat a wide range of skin problems. It is telling that even a "debunker" website (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=17490) has positive feedback on it's use.
The tetrasilver tetroxide molecule (http://www.google.com/search?q=tetrasilver%20tetroxide%20molecule&sourceid=mozilla2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8) is incredibly interesting. It is a semiconducting molecular crystal device (http://www.compassion-response.net/08Treatments/05Imusil.htm). Boyd Graves claims that a single injection of Imusil (diff name same molecule) reduced his viral load to the point where he has been cured of hiv. His story is worth reading (http://www.boydgraves.com/) for those interested in the origin of AIDS and in curing it. Boyd Graves and Rabbi Antleman (inventor of TST) should both be interviewed by Camelot. Antelman has reportedly been under pressure not to release info about this substance for a long time.
I've used the previous version of Terrasil called Tetrasil, unfortunately(?) I was not really sick enough to see how well it worked. For silver though, it should be a known option.
Christo888
01-10-2010, 11:03 PM
mntruthseeker:thumb_yello:
Silver only restores and heals, that is all it knows!!!!!
Silver is the partner of your white crystalline Soul.
"Every cloud (soul) has a Silver lining"!:trumpet:
mntruthseeker
01-10-2010, 11:05 PM
mntruthseeker:thumb_yello:
Silver only restores and heals, that is all it knows!!!!!
Silver is the partner of your white crystalline Soul.
"Every cloud (soul) has a Silver lining"!:trumpet:
Thank you , it sure puts a smile on my face reading this
:wink2:
Christo888
01-10-2010, 11:06 PM
Thank you , it sure puts a smile on my face reading this
:wink2:
Happy Silver Anniversary!!!!! :lol3:
25th ... 2 5's 55.
I've been making at least 10ppm CS now for 6 months - it seems to work brilliantly.
In previous threads I've stated where I bought the machine, and the aqwsafe bottled distilled water.
This link may be helpful to you all:
http://www.colloidalsilversecrets.blogspot.com/
They are very positive, and there is also a large manual to help you during your 'new beginnings'.
Save brown glass bottles - boil/sterilise naturally, tip up to dry off. Keep a clean kit handy (jug/funnel/brewing jar) and keep everything in a dark cupboard.
I found empty Grolsch bottles with their fantastic stoppers perfect, after being sterilised.
Good luck :original::original::original:
Curative
01-11-2010, 02:09 AM
Thanks for replying everyone ! Hi Moxie, I'm doing great. I'm trying to stay prepared and have everything that I need at hand.
If I were to make my own Colloidal Silver, how would I know what strength it is , ie., 10ppm, 20ppm etc. ? Additionally, how do you know that the silver particles are actually tiny and fit to take internally ?
You would require a TDS meter (e bay $15)
A laser (pointer, pen, level etc.) shone through the mixing jar gives an indication of the particle mass (with practice) or a more expensive meter is available that does both.
eleni
01-11-2010, 02:55 AM
Mesosilver is my choice..........http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm
see this to compare brands/types of silver:
http://www.Silver-Colloids.com/Reports/reports.html#types
bluestix
01-11-2010, 05:15 AM
Why don't you make your own?
It's easy once you have the components.
We just started selling a simple and cheap Colloidal Silver generator for all of those out there too lazy to figure it out on your own.
http://alterntech.com/product/Colloidal_Silver_Generator_(Mini) (http://alterntech.com/product/Colloidal_Silver_Generator_%28Mini%29)
http://alterntech.com/product/Colloidal_Silver_Generator
Unfortunately we don't have silver rods yet. We are working on it.
In another thread I offered one of the mini generators for free to anyone with Morgellons in exchange for feedback on how well it works and possibly before and after pictures.
Offer still stands.
Can anyone tell me how long a bottle of colloidal silver can be kept for? I bought a bottle about 7 months ago and am a bit weary of using it. Would it still be safe and would it still contain all its healing properties?
Anchor
01-11-2010, 12:15 PM
Was it made with distilled water. Was it high quality. Was it kept in the dark?
I try to use the stuff I make in a month, but recently I made so much I cant.
Main use right now is as an underarm deodrant - it is very hot in Australia :)
A..
Was it made with distilled water. Was it high quality. Was it kept in the dark?
I try to use the stuff I make in a month, but recently I made so much I cant.
Main use right now is as an underarm deodrant - it is very hot in Australia :)
A..
I'm not sure if made with distilled water but know it is of high quality. It's been kept in bubble wrap in the dark at all times - So what do you reckon?
utopiandreamer
01-11-2010, 12:50 PM
Used colloidal in nebulizer 3 times once every 12 hours stopped my coughing !
The Concentration was 5PPM ! quantity was 4ml each time for 10 minutes !
However i felt a slight headache so i stopped !
utopiandreamer
01-11-2010, 12:51 PM
Used colloidal in nebulizer 3 times once every 12 hours stopped my coughing !
The Concentration was 5PPM ! quantity was 4ml each time for 10 minutes !
However i felt a slight headache so i stopped !
Secretion almost stopped !
mntruthseeker
01-11-2010, 05:23 PM
Can anyone tell me how long a bottle of colloidal silver can be kept for? I bought a bottle about 7 months ago and am a bit weary of using it. Would it still be safe and would it still contain all its healing properties?
If you kept it in a dark place, cupboard it should be ok
I dont know what you plan on using it for. I have found that it will get a taste in it after awhile but I know its ok.
I have a small bottle with a dropper on that is in my bathroom cabinet that is that old. I use it on small cuts and it immediately removes the sting and heals just fine. I also use it in my ears which is why its in the dropper bottle. I also put some on cotton to wipe my eyes if they get red.. (all the wonderful chemtrails )
Bluestix
I seen that generous offer of yours regarding the free generator. What a shame you were not taken up on your offer. You can go to Bob Beck and purchase silver or gold rods for under 15.00, the last I seen their price but the price on your generator is very reasonable. If I were looking for one, I would certainly buy yours.
[QUOTE=mntruthseeker;220512]If you kept it in a dark place, cupboard it should be ok
Thanks. At least I can now drink it without worrying about it. :thumb_yello:
bluestix
01-11-2010, 05:52 PM
Bluestix
I seen that generous offer of yours regarding the free generator. What a shame you were not taken up on your offer. You can go to Bob Beck and purchase silver or gold rods for under 15.00, the last I seen their price but the price on your generator is very reasonable. If I were looking for one, I would certainly buy yours.
Actually someone did take me up on the offer.
I can afford to give away a few more though so if anyone else needs one send me a note explaining why.
Thanks for the tip about the silver rods. I will check it out.
Bluestix - Do you deliver to UK?
Carrie1971
01-11-2010, 06:03 PM
Can anyone tell me how long a bottle of colloidal silver can be kept for? I bought a bottle about 7 months ago and am a bit weary of using it. Would it still be safe and would it still contain all its healing properties?
As you know from your own words, as you wrote "a bit weary of using it" this substance may have great healing power when used on the skin for a very bad burn it is very usefull. However the liquid "colloidal silver" that has and is still being sold as something "safe" to take by mouth is not "safe" ....
I am coming from the standpoint that I have known more than one person who tried to find a "cure" for Hepatitis C outside of the normal Rx. Dr. Lab. hospital and I do not know a single one of those who have "tried the colloidal silver" who is still alive. I just knew not unlike you that it was not something I shoulg "try". So glad to know you hear your own in-side voice.
Remember: Life is a Gift and we must keep trying.
bluestix
01-11-2010, 06:06 PM
Bluestix - Do you deliver to UK?
We can ship pretty much anywhere.
You can contact us through the website for questions.
[QUOTE=Carrie1971;220555]As you know from your own words, as you wrote "a bit weary of using it" this substance may have great healing power when used on the skin for a very bad burn it is very usefull. However the liquid "colloidal silver" that has and is still being sold as something "safe" to take by mouth is not "safe" ....
Bit of misunderstanding here. I have used it before and know of others that have used it and we are all fine. I meant that I was weary of using the bottle that I had in my possession for all those month and wasn't sure if that would make any difference. I must admit I have never heard of anyone dying from it - I've heard of some people going blue due to over use!
Mijas
01-20-2010, 04:53 PM
Avid & MSN Truthseeker, (or any other members)
May I ask what generators you use & where you got them?
I want to get a CS maker and I have narrowed it down (I think) to the RSG-3, the Silvergen and the Micro-Particle from Silver Edge.
Has anyone used any of these, esp the Micro Particle? Does this have the edge over others, because of particle size?
I know v little about CS apart from reading on these forums, but then I knew nothing of MMS except from here, I tried it and it does what you all say, and more.
THanks for any replies!
Mijas
Rainbow
03-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Hi Yiolas,
Just read your post. My friend, who owned a health food store for years, put me wise to Biotic Silver by Professional Wellness. It is now my only antibiotic. This kills viruses that antibiotics do not. I take it whenever I feel a chill, sore throat or cold coming on. I take a teaspoonfull with distilled water only on a mostly empty stomach 3x a day for a couple of days. I am always fine by then.
Mr doctor, an Osteopath, believes in it totally and has given me samples of ProSilver 240 by Opti Silver. It is a spray to use in the mouth for sore throat/mouth problems and it works! They are both around $45 a bottle but well worth it. No side effects and only take when you need it.
Thats my advice and I don't need any of the OTC medicines for colds/flu etc or anymore prescriptions for antibiotics. Hope this is helpful.
Warmly,
Rainbow
waitinginthewings
03-18-2010, 03:27 PM
[QUOTE=Carrie1971;220555]As you know from your own words, as you wrote "a bit weary of using it" this substance may have great healing power when used on the skin for a very bad burn it is very usefull. However the liquid "colloidal silver" that has and is still being sold as something "safe" to take by mouth is not "safe" ....
Bit of misunderstanding here. I have used it before and know of others that have used it and we are all fine. I meant that I was weary of using the bottle that I had in my possession for all those month and wasn't sure if that would make any difference. I must admit I have never heard of anyone dying from it - I've heard of some people going blue due to over use!
Gita: I make my own, & 6 months is how long I store it in the dark. After that it gets a different taste, which I don't like. But the instructions I got with my machine says 6 months.
Julius
03-18-2010, 04:05 PM
I have the Silvergen and I'm very pleased with it.
I've been lazy lately and haven't been taking it..but I have been taken my vitamins especially D3
One question if I may....how do you clean one of the silver rods? One of them is black after about 6 uses...I tried to wipe it down with tissue paper, but it's still black....and yes I only use good quality destill water.
thanks
Helvetic
03-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Use white toothpaste for cleaning, no gel. No joke, try it out its working.
waitinginthewings
03-18-2010, 06:42 PM
Use white toothpaste for cleaning, no gel. No joke, try it out its working.
Tks for that tip Helvetic.
My machine came with a small scrubbing type pad for cleaning the rods. Its important to clean off any black residue immediately after you remove them from the water.
Helvetic: how long does it take you to make an 8oz bottle size?
[QUOTE=gita;220567]
Gita: I make my own, & 6 months is how long I store it in the dark. After that it gets a different taste, which I don't like. But the instructions I got with my machine says 6 months.
Thanks for the info. A bit annoyed with myself now - best get rid of the bottle!:sad:
Alterntech
03-19-2010, 12:57 PM
Why don't you make your own?
It's easy once you have the components.
Here's a handy DIY guide I came across last year.
http://www.ehow.com/how_2136254_own-colloidal-silver-ounces-time.html
Horrowitz recommends an ideal PPM of 5 for internal usage.
People don't make CS the way this site advises people, its very bad. it does not even regulate the current at all, if you want to make it yourself this is my site it has a make your own cs gen and it works great.
http://www.alterntech.co.uk/csmini.html
I also give free advise to people so don't be shy folks.....
HORIZONS
03-19-2010, 01:19 PM
Here is the one I have and use: A very good source.
Colloidal Silver specialists! Learn how to make colloids yourself. Sales of colloidal silver generators, 999 silver electrodes, distillers & health products. Articles & research about ionic, colloidal silver making, history and more.
Celebrating having served the internet community since 1998.
http://wishgranted.com/
Alterntech
03-19-2010, 10:53 PM
Here is the one I have and use: A very good source.
Colloidal Silver specialists! Learn how to make colloids yourself. Sales of colloidal silver generators, 999 silver electrodes, distillers & health products. Articles & research about ionic, colloidal silver making, history and more.
Celebrating having served the internet community since 1998.
http://wishgranted.com/
Nice, but pricey!.. it's easy to do this yourself..... I offer free advice on how to do this. If you don't care about it's looks you can make something for under way under $5. I can also show you how to make one from a walmart mains timer and an ac/dc adapter.... email me if anyone wants details.... gary@alterntech.com
Randallion
03-23-2010, 03:55 AM
"Nice, but pricey!.. it's easy to do this yourself..... I offer free advice on how to do this. If you don't care about it's looks you can make something for under way under $5. I can also show you how to make one from a walmart mains timer and an ac/dc adapter.... email me if anyone wants details.... gary@alterntech.com"
I couldn't agree more! Someone wrote of $45 a bottle. You can make gallons for that.
As for time of usefulness and freshness, a couple of years at least, stored in the dark. Use your laser. Is anything collecting in the bottom of the jar? It shouldn't, and if it is, it is because you "over-cooked" in the first place.
It hurts that all this micro-particle advertising is going on. Never anything that you can do at home, that some Grand Wizard of Advertising is is not going to tell you you are soon to turn blue because of your ignorance...
Must be distilled water!!!
Randallion
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