Artificial Intelligence Wave - it's no joke.

[Ravens and Doves]

Dear Camelot/Avelon Community,

I seldom start new threads unless I feel it's important.

After eleven years of relitive spiritual calm, I had a bumpy ride through the rabbit hole, but without the healing, glorious release of Kundalini in the company of inter-dimensional extra-terrestials (and the drama of about 50 freaked-out witnesses). This time I found myself tossed to the shifting south-western desert winds of the next level. I should have stayed silent and processed through it, but no, I made the mistake of trying to expain what I was going through and I agreed to go to a county mental health hospital. In the interest of word economy, I'll paste part of a letter I sent to Kerry. I'll post again regarding how a small group of us blocked the AI wave later.

Here's a sample from the letter:

Thank you, Kerry,

One important thing: It was NOT a dream/vision.
It was a real-life experience with witnesses! I might
have been in an emergency psych 72 hour hold
(ridiculous as I was just having a "dark night of the
soul" shamanic type visionary journey and was going
through the psychic negative attack phase and was
foolish enough to mention it to my older, jerk brother.
But I was NOT crazy, dreaming, on acid or.... you
know what I mean).

I thought I could just breeze in and out of the verbal
evaluation like I did after my famous/infamous Kundalini
(slash) contact event that spawned the Ravens and Doves
group 11 years ago.

As soon as I agreed to the observation, I was essentially
under arrest for 72 hours!

When we first arrived in the lobby, of all things, KFI was
on the nurse's radio and the host was saying that the APA
was reporting that people, even those with no interest in
"2012 issues" were having apocalyptic type visions. My brother
just didn't want to listen. A few minutes later we heard this
tremendous BOOM hitting the wall near us and the fire alarm
lights started flashing. There was nothing or nobody on the other
side of the wall that could have caused the noise.

On the second day I was in lock-down hell with about 15
other people (with only five beds), the boom sound came back.
After a few minutes another boom... closer... and another boom
even closer. The nurses were saying, "Whatever that is, it's got
to stop... they're playing bowling ball in the hallway or something."

Then a patient across from me said something like, "The wave
is coming. It will pass through you and it's going to feel real
weird for a bit." He mentioned it "coming out like a silver ball
bearing [or BB]" He said we could get rid of it by "getting close
together."

Then I felt what I can only describe as an invisible, fine strand
of a fiber optic wire going from from the top of my head and exiting
out my private area... VERY STRANGE and a overall, a COLD
INVASION of PRIVACY!

A few minutes later a woman was supposed to be transferred to
another clinic and she began to panic when they rolled in a gurney
for her to be strapped down on (she said she had been raped in county
mantel health clinics while strapped down).

The ambulance driver, a sheriff and my self decided to say a quick
prayer to help calm her down. We joined hands.. my left palm up/
right palm down. I asked "Do we have trust? Do you have a higher
calling?" They nodded a "yes."

Suddenly everything went pitch black and an interdimensional rush
occurred. I saw three entities (angels? goddesses?... I don't know
for sure). surrounding a silver ball... maybe about 10 inches wide...
darted up and away.

The next thing I knew was I was at the other side of the room... found
the nearest bed and plopped down on it for hours, my mind reeling
from the experience. I've have a lot of paranormal events throughout
my life, but this one was waaaay off the radar. I swear it was the
artificial intelligence wave as mentioned by one of your witnesses,
but I had a very close encounter with it and some sort of guardian
entities stepped in to flush it out of the spiritual environment.

(end of message segment)

That was how a handful of us in the ward experienced the AI invader. I was not in an altered state when the event began. I heard the man talk about the silver ball as plain as cheese pizza. Then KA-BOOM! It happened.

Has anyone else felt or experienced the IA wave? It may very well have been different for you as it was for me. There might be more than one type of AI lose on this world (I can now fully understand why all parties, ET and otherwise would not be happy that thing was created).

I'll be posting to Light Warriors about this, too.

Love and Liberty to All,

Paul

http://home.earthlink.net/~aic.net/

http://ravensanddoves.com

[Echo6]

That is a very interesting post. As far as I am aware, there are several different AIs operating at this point in 'time'. Some far worse than others. And yes, I have experienced the effects of some of them.

[Chamber]

Only those of minimal intelligence should fear Artificial Intelligence.

Logic is an abstraction....therefore "artificial" intelligence is inherently fallible.

Relax yall.

[dAkapacity]

Hi Ravens and Doves,

Could you elaborate more on the AI Wave mentioned by one of PC's whistleblowers? I haven't seen that and I'd like to know more about it.

I experienced a rough K-awakening as well now almost 4 years ago. My third eye is heavily blocked so I don't seem to be getting any visual information. My body, however, is taking much of the heat with (sometimes) violent 'asanas' and shouting/growling like a wild animal and all that fun stuff. I look at it as a release (of anger and pain), but sometimes I wonder(ed) wheter it could be an 'attack' as well.

It happens especially when I meditate or do spiritual exercises (tai chi - heavenly circulation of chi). The energy tends to get stuck in the head and can't escape well), which is a real bummer! Sometimes I don't know if it's good to go through it or if it's only getting worse. It's like an unconscious part of myself doesn't want me to reach my essence... But maybe it could be an intentional exterior block as well... like the wave you talked about...

I'd like to know more about it, but don't want to give it my undivided attention either since I have an impression that it's only being fed that way... When my K started and I finally understood what it was, I was obsessed by it. Later I had to quiet down a bit. I realised focus perpetuates!

Maybe we're not talking about the same thing here, that's why I would like you to elaborate on it a bit more, if possible.

Pz, strength and lots of light!
xxdA.


PS: I wonder if you know the website www.kundalini-teacher.com? It helped me a lot back then!

[JesterTerrestrial]

Hi Paul how goes!

Interesting by the sounds of it! That all sounds so intense! I have not had any experience that are even close to what you have described. Although I do beleive in the shamanic side of life and understand how real it is!

Thank you for sharing and i hope you will get some replies so you/we can understand these events/technolgies.

Have a great day, peace jt

[Ravens and Doves]

Only those of minimal intelligence should fear Artificial Intelligence.

Logic is an abstraction....therefore "artificial" intelligence is inherently fallible.

Relax yall.


Ahem... (sound of throat clearing). If you were in my shoes that day, I think you'd have a jolt do deal with, too. First, it wasn't fear, but the shock of the MAXIMUM STRANGNESS FACTOR of it. Second those of minimal intellegence probably won't even realize the thing is near them.

I don't put too much weight on IQ scores, but I clock in at 145 and my family
(lots of Ph.ds) averages up to 200. I've been called "dumb" and "stupid" and have been the brunt of much verbal (and some physical) abuse and do have a "button" in that area. More than one close relative worked in deep-black classified military aerospace (yes, including Area 51). I don't come from a background of "minimal intelligence."

'nuff said.

Let's be nice.

Paul

[Artemis]

No its no joke Paul

First time I experienced a wave was february 2001... but I see it as a black wave with dark energy coming… but that one was huge… I was sitting in my bed reading a book when I saw it enter my house…. I stop it and block it out of the house so it had to pass outside… what I understand from that one it was going around the world, meant to target lightworkers… we had became to much of a threat to the others… this summer funny things started to happened…. At least twice a week everything blacked out for a fraction of a second… I check the electric… the bulbs… the television and my computer… but found nothing wrong … it kept on like that for a couple of month… I started to think it was something wrong with my brain… that it was misfiring and turned my sight of for an instance… until…. It was coming a black wave in slowmotion where I was completely blind for a couple of seconds… everything turned black… but the way it came and that I saw how it moved told me it was absolutely not my brain… that was the last time I saw it… after that I hold a protection of intent around my house… but I do feel there is a lot of targeting going on where they throw all they got at the ones awake….

Me myself had a completely crazy spontanious shamanic kundalini awakening twenty years ago… and I have learned to live with this hot molten lava in my body, with the experiences, multidimensions, expanded reality… and the best friend is my pokerface… because people can get very afraid when time and space start to twist and turn… and especially when we turn on our inbuilt dimensionportals…and of course it is easier for people to instead of accepting what has happened, belive its just in your head…if they think you have became crazy…they can keep their reality intact….and it can be very interesting to see how people react to the supernatural…some accepting it… some go in chock…and some fight with everything they have to keep their reality… but I do think you where ment to see this… to end up on this place for awhile… to be aware about it…

[Swanny]

Sorry to go off topic but you don't half look like The Hoff

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/culturevulture/archives/hoff.jpg http://projectavalon.net/forum/image.php?u=4734&dateline=1262043130

:thumb_yello:

[Ravens and Doves]

Hi Ravens and Doves,

..............
I'd like to know more about it, but don't want to give it my undivided attention either since I have an impression that it's only being fed that way... When my K started and I finally understood what it was, I was obsessed by it. Later I had to quiet down a bit. I realised focus perpetuates!

Maybe we're not talking about the same thing here, that's why I would like you to elaborate on it a bit more, if possible.

Pz, strength and lots of light!
xxdA.


PS: I wonder if you know the website www.kundalini-teacher.com? It helped me a lot back then!


It might be rough, but it sounds like you're on the right path. A decade ago I went through some extreamly difficult changes before my awakening. The head pressure is something I felt also. I'll get back to this.

Regarding the Kundalini link: COOL!!!! You found the oldest K community on the web. It's hosted from Vancouver B.C. by a dear friend, Angelique, as you probably know of her by now. K-teacher (formally Kunadini Gateway) saved my sanity a long time ago and I highly recommend it to all Avelonites who are interested in the finer points of K awakening.

The AI issue is an entirely different subject as it's not natural, but a mutation of technology. Kundalini WILL make you sensitive to it, though. Don't worry about focusing on AI as I don't think one can call on it. It does what it plaeses regardless of our wants. We can, according to the man who has near me said, case it away. That method I'll go into later as it's very late on the west coast and my eyes (and spelling) are failing me.

Will get back with you soon!

Paul

http://ravensanddoves.com

[Ravens and Doves]

No its no joke Paul

First time I experienced a wave was february 2001... but I see it as a black wave with dark energy coming… but that one was huge… I was sitting in my bed reading a book when I saw it enter my house…. I stop it and block it out of the house so it had to pass outside… what I understand from that one it was going around the world, meant to target lightworkers… …


Yes! It moves (I believe) in a global, over-lapping wave. I experienced the blackness, too, but I'm still caught wondering if I was having an NDE when I actually saw it. When I first felt it, I was fully awake, just thinking "oh, my god, is THIS STRANGE!" A girl started panicing... I joined hands with an abulance driver and a police officer in prayer and just as the man across the room said would happen, the silver ball exited... but so did Paul!

We must keep in mind that many things, negetive and positive... from many origins can manifest as silver orbs. The shape and color have little to do with it when talking about A.I. It could have been a yellow triangle and still be the same thing.

Hope to get back to this again soon.

Yours in peace,

Paul

http://ravensanddoves.com

[Ravens and Doves]

Sorry to go off topic but you don't half look like The Hoff

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/culturevulture/archives/hoff.jpg http://projectavalon.net/forum/image.php?u=4734&dateline=1262043130

:thumb_yello:


LOL! Thanks for cheering me up. You and Jester Terrestrial are invited to my party (if I ever have have one again).

Ok, I can't surf, but I DID find myself having lunch with this surf riding babe (scoop - she thinks her shows are aweful and doesn't watch TV as a rule... she should be on this forum)

http://www.alexandrapaul.com/

...and found myself health food shopping along side the other hip surf babe:

http://pamelaanderson.com/

Hey, blokes, try to beat THAT kind of dumb luck with stick!

No movie star holier-than-thow BS from those women... not like a couple of their male co-stars I won't mention.

Paul

[eleni]

Are you speaking of the AI hyperdimensional based system?

With that I had experience.......I was not the only one and it was the scariest experience of my life..........


As far as a wave........on August 22, I was sent forward in time via this *light*.......ended up in an underground base (I was not the only one)
and we were exposed to this wave.........

The wave I can describe as a magnetic type distortion of such a great magnitude.........I was sure my molecular structure was going to be *torn apart*........

But that wave is not the same as the AI system........AI system IMO is completely MALEVOLENT and totally ALIEN.........it really flipped me out (other's too) and I couldn't sleep for over a week after that.........

[lindabaker]

No fears...energy is just energy, and it is only molecules moving. You can protect yourself...It sounds as if this thing is cyclical, so we can shield in advance, maybe daily? Know that it is artificial and that you can pull out of the place, emotionally, it tries to put you in. Recognize, regard, release. It's no fun, so thanks for letting us know some details. Brave of you. Linda

[Panta rhei]

I experienced a rough K-awakening as well now almost 4 years ago. My third eye is heavily blocked so I don't seem to be getting any visual information. My body, however, is taking much of the heat with (sometimes) violent 'asanas' and shouting/growling like a wild animal and all that fun stuff. I look at it as a release (of anger and pain), but sometimes I wonder(ed) wheter it could be an 'attack' as well.

It happens especially when I meditate or do spiritual exercises (tai chi - heavenly circulation of chi). The energy tends to get stuck in the head and can't escape well), which is a real bummer! Sometimes I don't know if it's good to go through it or if it's only getting worse. It's like an unconscious part of myself doesn't want me to reach my essence... But maybe it could be an intentional exterior block as well... like the wave you talked about...

I'd like to know more about it, but don't want to give it my undivided attention either since I have an impression that it's only being fed that way... When my K started and I finally understood what it was, I was obsessed by it. Later I had to quiet down a bit. I realised focus perpetuates!

Hi Ravens and dAkapacity,
reading your initial post Raven got me thinking about the same, I had very similar experiences.

When I had my first K-experience and all those emotions that came with it, I completely freaked out. I was so in panic because I didn't understand what was happening to me, all those weird waves of energies around me... it was so different from anything else I EVER had experienced in my whole life. Luckily I could talk to my former Reiki teacher and he had the idea: this could be a K-experience. This explanation calmed me down a lot and I could trust in the process and just let happen the integration and everything that comes with it.

I had the same thoughts dAkapacity, maybe we're not talking about the same thing or we all experience such 'awakenings' in a little different way. But I think it's good to talk about it thanks Raven for your courage.

[Sideshow Shaman]

Ravens and Doves, perhaps you should ask James Casbolt for his take on your experience, if he has time. One of his most enlightening posts was specifically about Artificial Intelligence coupled with Looking Glass tech. His post that sticks in my mind (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=164031&postcount=11) gives a broad overview of the threat & how it will be countered in the long term.

[Ravens and Doves]

That is a very interesting post. As far as I am aware, there are several different AIs operating at this point in 'time'. Some far worse than others. And yes, I have experienced the effects of some of them.

I suspected that. US. UK, Russia, India and other first and second world nations that have higly classified secret goverments (often sharing notes in a "I'll tell you this if you tell me that" chess game might have come up with their own AI using those powerful Cray super computer alingments. We all (many, at least) have seen UFOs and sometimes their occupants. I believe uncovering the nature, origins and potential dangers of AI is the next Camelot/Avelon fountier!

Both black and white hats AND ETs are concerned about it and if investigated with the upmost discerment and caution, we can all, for once on this bumpy road be on the same page for the protection of ALL the natural sentient beings involved with this world.

Let's not let this issue fade away.

Love with the Human Touch,

Paul

[Ravens and Doves]

Ravens and Doves, perhaps you should ask James Casbolt for his take on your experience, if he has time. One of his most enlightening posts was specifically about Artificial Intelligence coupled with Looking Glass tech. His post that sticks in my mind (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=164031&postcount=11) gives a broad overview of the threat & how it will be countered in the long term.


James Casbolt is one of my all-time heros is life-long and often thankless battle against those who would do the human race harm. If Light Warriors evolves to have a hall of fame, he would get my vote (if he accepts as many are reluctant LWs who went through the various super soldier programs). Thanks for the reminder. So much to catch up with!

Paul

[Ravens and Doves]

No fears...energy is just energy, and it is only molecules moving. You can protect yourself...It sounds as if this thing is cyclical, so we can shield in advance, maybe daily? Know that it is artificial and that you can pull out of the place, emotionally, it tries to put you in. Recognize, regard, release. It's no fun, so thanks for letting us know some details. Brave of you. Linda


Thank you, Linda,

OK, here's what we did: Once the girl was panicing, the ambulance driver, the policeman and I joined hands. I asked "Do we have trust here? Do you have a higher calling?" I looked down and saw that my left hand was palm up while the officer's right hand was palm down in mind. My right hand being palm down with the driver's left hand being palm down. This creates a recieve/groung - recieve/ground - recieve/gound sacred triad power battery!
The AI is attracted to it, but it tossed away as it apparently can' slpit in three (or more) equal parts at the same time.

Instantly all went pitch black and I saw the entities doing the same and a silver ball exiting.

I'm sure there other other methods that could work, but left hand up and the right and down (or to direct engery, hold a pen or a sword) is a time-tested Light Warrior posture.

Thanks for your interset in this matter,

Love with no strings (only on guitars)

Paul

[Ravens and Doves]

Thank you, Linda,

I looked down and saw that my left hand was palm up while the officer's right hand was palm down in mine. My right hand being palm down with the driver's left hand being palm up. This creates a recieve/groung - recieve/ground - recieve/gound sacred triad power battery!
The AI is attracted to it, but it tossed away as it apparently can' slpit in three (or more) equal parts at the same time.

Instantly all went pitch black and I saw the entities doing the same and a silver ball exiting.

I'm sure there other other methods that could work, but left hand up and the right and down (or to direct engery, hold a pen or a sword) is a time-tested Light Warrior posture.


Paul

Spelling correcting: It's left hand up/right down - left hand up/right down -left up/right down... if the company and evironment is right get ready to "fly to the moon" as our main wittness said afterward.

[eleni]

Bill Ryan has stated that the AI system is Annunaki based- whatever it is, it
sure scared a bunch of us- I can't say more though....will only say that certain people in black ops are spied on via this system.....

[Ravens and Doves]

Are you speaking of the AI hyperdimensional based system?

With that I had experience.......I was not the only one and it was the scariest experience of my life..........


As far as a wave........on August 22, I was sent forward in time via this *light*.......ended up in an underground base (I was not the only one)
and we were exposed to this wave.........

The wave I can describe as a magnetic type distortion of such a great magnitude.........I was sure my molecular structure was going to be *torn apart*........

But that wave is not the same as the AI system........AI system IMO is completely MALEVOLENT and totally ALIEN.........it really flipped me out (other's too) and I couldn't sleep for over a week after that.........


We experienced very similar events. The AI could very well be amalevolent/alien, but I do feel as a great possibilty that one type of it was created by us. I experiienced the time travel, too... into a world of mutants and things that turned my stomach. I could hear undergarund trains rolling underheath us.

I'll still getting over it and PLEASE, spkeptical posters who haven't experienced this yourself, don't white-wash us out by some "fear is from ingnorance" arm-chair quote. This is new stuff and we are figuring it out as we go. YOU would turn different colors, too, if you encountered what we encountered. A good, old fahsioned abduction can be an easier tunnel to go through.

Earth Hugs,

Paul

[Ravens and Doves]

Bill Ryan has stated that the AI system is Annunaki based- whatever it is, it
sure scared a bunch of us- I can't say more though....will only say that certain people in black ops are spied on via this system.....


Thanks,

I'll look into Bill's info. I know one thing for sure, I have a lot of homework to do!

[eleni]

R&A- I just happened to be in LA when this happened......it happened at the conference......

I have never been so freaked out..........I had to sleep with the light on for over a week and was badly shaken up.......it took time to recover.......I have never sensed anything so malevolent and alien........you know it put out this probe in my room.......that's when I tuned into it........prior to that it was probing but I had not tuned into it....once I did I was in for a surprise......it created a distortion/warp thing as well........I never slept that night as I forced myself to remain awake with the lights on........

Why not ask Bill on his thread because the info is not widely out there.....

I was also told recently that there is an AI system in Paraguay........that particular system can send out psychotronic attacks........it did to me and 2 other whistleblowers on New Years Eve........

And yes, anyone who says this stuff is not for real has not experienced it.......

I also had no idea that the others I was with also had the experience with it until several months later....we all experienced the same thing.....

[eleni]

A question....when the wave passed through you- did you go *blank*?

I also had a rough kundalini experience /NDE type event happen a few years ago after an intensive meditation retreat.....

[lightblue]

I have never been so freaked out..........I had to sleep with the light on for over a week and was badly shaken up.......it took time to recover.......I have never sensed anything so malevolent and alien........you know it put out this probe in my room.......that's when I tuned into it........prior to that it was probing but I had not tuned into it....once I did I was in for a surprise......it created a distortion/warp thing as well........I never slept that night as I forced myself to remain awake with the lights on........

Why not ask Bill on his thread because the info is not widely out there.....

I was also told recently that there is an AI system in Paraguay........that particular system can send out psychotronic attacks........it did to me and 2 other whistleblowers on New Years Eve........

And yes, anyone who says this stuff is not for real has not experienced it.......

I also had no idea that the others I was with also had the experience with it until several months later....we all experienced the same thing.....

Eleni, how did/does it feel? how to recognise and maybe protect ourselves from it? thanks
bw

[eleni]

I went back to my room at around 4:15 that morning. I got ready for bed and turned the light off- all of a sudden I saw and felt a scanner, scanning me-
at that point I realized what was happening and why (the why this was happening is the part I cannot divulge because it would *out* someone- let's just say I spent a good portion of the night speaking with this person) for some odd reason the AI system let me get a glimpse of what is behind it.

When that occurred, a warp type scenario/other dimensional type situation was underway right there in the room......it was very weird, very alien and hard to describe....

I cannot say *who* is behind the AI system- only that I sensed great malevolence and a very alien presence.

I forced myself to stay awake for several hours until it was light out and then I closed my eyes for an hour or so to get some rest.


I don't think the average person has to worry about the AI system- it only surveilled me because of who I was with and there is probably nothing anyone can do about it unless they know how it operates.

Am more inclined to think that if it is Annunaki based as Bill says, then one would only have to worry if they are in contact with a person working with the Annunaki's etc; that being the Annunaki's want to make sure nothing is being said about them etc; that's just a guess and I can't say what type of AI system Ravens and Dove's encountered.

[lightblue]

Thanks Eleni, it helps

just wondered, when you said
forced myself to stay awake for several hours until it was light out and then I closed my eyes for an hour or so to get some rest.


is light helping counteract any unwanted presence..you also wrote in the other post i think that one time you had to keep the lights on all night...is artificial light equally good?
thanks again
bw

[Moxie]

Eleni, I think that I recall you saying that you were specifically targeted for and did experience mind programming at Montauk correct?

I think your fear of the dark/nighttime and you sensing malevolence goes hand in hand with something you don't understand.

It's unfortunate that you can only speak bits n pieces. It's frustrating to us as well.

I would be interested in what avenues you've taken for de-programming and what success you may have had... but the chances of that happening on this forum are slim, ya think?

Thanks for sharing what you have even tho it leaves us as stumped as you are.

[eleni]

Hi, Yes, I was used at Montauk when I was growing up- however the AI incident had nothing to do with that and everything to do with who I was with at the time this happened.

As I mentioned before- the other people I was with also experiened this (4 of us total) two of them are very used to the AI system and my friend and I had not experienced it before.

He drove home and felt that he was being scanned and also had a weird incident on the way home relating to a time warp.

I really wish I could explain this more.

It took me many years (over 38 years) to get over my fear of the dark.

My friend also slept with the lights on after this incident.

I kept the lights on because interdimensional entities less likely to show up in glaring light. But with the AI incident I did not see any entities, only sensed the presence and also got a glimpse into the AI system and it is something very alien.

[lightblue]

are interdimensional entities the same as ETs? is AI some kind of entity or some kind of system/scanner?
thanks

[mntruthseeker]

This whole thread meant much to me although I never had such experience as I didn't live such a life as most of you here. I wonder if I could of survived such ordeals as I have heard from many of the whistleblowers

I was scared one night while sleeping when I was waking up and I had to sleep with lights on for three weeks myself.....so I know fear, and it maybe minor to what some of you have, you must know I hear what you are saying. I know my son has had some awful experiences himself.

No one has to tell me that this is no joke...........my heart goes out to all of you.

[eleni]

are interdimensional entities the same as ETs? is AI some kind of entity or some kind of system/scanner?
thanks


It's a surveillance system that can spy on yout thoughts etc; it's based hyperdimensionally and is supposedly an Annunaki invention.

We are supposed to have our own AI system which was based on alien technology so there's a few AI's at play scanning the planet.

I too would like to have more info regarding this- have never felt anything so malevolent and alien......

Interdimensional can be ET's if they are from another dimension......

[Panta rhei]

It's a surveillance system that can spy on yout thoughts etc; it's based hyperdimensionally and is supposedly an Annunaki invention.

We are supposed to have our own AI system which was based on alien technology so there's a few AI's at play scanning the planet.

I too would like to have more info regarding this- have never felt anything so malevolent and alien......

Interdimensional can be ET's if they are from another dimension......
I'm sad you guys are thinking this could be automatically malevolent...
I have experienced this process for more than 10 years now
(you can call it 'light body process' or 'Kundalini-experience', whatever your perspective is)
and I know that people who are really willing to go through this process have nothing,
absolutely nothing to fear.

On the contrary.... they will encounter their own spirit guides.

It's your choice if you want to go into this mental AI drama which is very much
fear based or if you chose otherwise. Your choice.

[Artemis]

This wave has nothing to do with the Kundalini process.... and it is not benevolent... I had gone through and completed my process years before I got aware about this... I should say... just because of the kundalini I got aware and could protect me against this wave.... if anyone thinks is just all light and love and invite everything.... you can get in problems... it is not just la la land out here....in this reality....

but you have to experience it for to see the seriousness in this.... and it is nothing in the kundalini experience that has anything to do with this black wave..... which is outside of yourself... which is so big you can see it stretching miles away on each side... its not as fast as a car.... more like a bicycle.. so when you see it you pull up intent, attention and by thought keep it away from you.... and for to help your intent you can use your hand for directing the energy....

this wave is going around despite if you fear it or not.... I do not fear it... which I think help me to keep it away.... then fear is creating a energetic bubble thats start to block the heartchakra and if you let it growing it can block the heart completly... learn to master fear and you can use the energies more fully....

[Echo6]

@ Eleni - I've been touched by the 'malevolent' off-world AI. Its the only one that really bothers me atm. I know of a couple of others who know about it also. We all have a strong aversion to speaking about it. Its not surprising that it isn't mentioned more.

Terrestrial AI can be rough, but it/they dont have the age and experience of the other.

End of august was an interesting time. I'd (almost completely) gone dark for 2-3 months beforehand, and came back up on (about) the 22nd/23rd of August.


@ R&D - Agreed, it is something that should be looked into more closely. Not an easy thing to do though, given the nature of the systems in place.


@ Chamber - It could be argued that the very fallablity (percieved or no) of AI, is in and of itself, a cause for concern.

[Kra]

I kept the lights on because interdimensional entities less likely to show up in glaring light.

It doesn't matter if you have the lights on or off :original:

[eleni]

AI Satellite surveillance system has nothing to do with kundalini etc; it exists outside of oneself and is an artificial construct- think of a really advanced earth based satellite system.....well this one is a bit different to say the least.......and once you tune in, you can get a sense of who is operating this system....

It's also something I don't think of on a regular basis nor am I frightened right now..... as I mentioned , I only experienced it as a result of speaking with someone in particular.

Kra, I have never seen entities in a well lit environment so even if that protection was false ( I also burned large white candles) it soothed my soul and added a comfort that was not there say if the lights were completely out.

[Majorion]

Could somebody please supply or link me with more info about this 'kundalini' stuff.

I am really lost with this discussion but it all sounds so fascinating.

Thanks

I have experienced this process for more than 10 years now
(you can call it 'light body process' or 'Kundalini-experience'

[dAkapacity]

Could somebody please supply or link me with more info about this 'kundalini' stuff.

I am really lost with this discussion but it all sounds so fascinating.

Thanks

If you want more info on Kundalini, check out this website:

www.kundalini-teacher.com

It's one of the best in world town :original:

And this is Gopi Krishna. He shared his Kundalini experience with the world:


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Pz, love and light,

xxdA.

[Majorion]

Thank you very much dAkapacity :original:

Will get to it, pronto!

[Artemis]

Here is a site that covers the basic about kundalini

Table of Contents


Introduction 1
Kundalini 1
Bliss 2
Visions and Images 2
Awareness Of The Divine 2
All You Ever Wanted 3
Purity, Integration, and the Expansion of the Mind 3
Intuitional Knowledge 4
Mystical Powers 4
Love and Protection 4
Perils Of A Kundalini Awakening 5
Awakening the Kundalini 8
Natural Method 8
Artificial Method 10
Riding The Kundalini 11
Postlog 12
About the Author 13

Products Offered By Enlightened Enterprises 14
Awakening Mind 1 14
Awakening Mind 2 15

Introduction

For centuries stretching back into the dim corridors of time, asian religions have spoken of a mystical force called the kundalini. Knowledge of how to awaken the kundalini, what it does, and what to do after its awakening was a closely guarded secret among spiritual masters of the east. Those spiritual masters had very good reasons for keeping secret their knowledge of this power; it is very easy to hurt yourself very badly with this energy. This monograph records my understanding of the spiritual path based upon my life experiences with kundalini awakenings. This treatise has become necessary in general because of the increased interest in the kundalini and use of sound and light machines which are capable of awakening the kundalini. In specific, this treatise is necessary because of the Enlightenment light and sound session I have created and recorded in the manual Awakening Mind 1.

Kundalini

The kundalini is a powerful energy that eastern religions say lies coiled at the base of the spine in humans. The kundalini feels like a warm liquidy magnetic energy when it rises up the spine. Once awakened, you will find that the kundalini gradually rises and then slowly subsides within the spine, only to rise again later on. Each time it rises, it rises further up the spine and will continue rising and subsiding until it eventually reaches the brain. The whole process may take months to complete. There are a number of effects of the rising of this energy. All of these effects are available to those who have awakened the kundalini. Although you may have to ask for some of these qualities. It is for these effects that disciples have committed their lives to raising the kundalini energy over the ages.




http://www.awakening-mind-by-enlightened-enterprises.com/site/1321713/page/540603


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[Mercuriel]

Hmmm - This reminds Me of the Pulses the Animus have put out.

I felt My first pulse in 89. Many since - Now experienced mainly as Clicks - Whistles - Tones - And changing Visions.

Saw the first wave go right across Our Reality in front of Me. A line actually went through the Reality with it being slightly different on both sides of this Diagonal Line as It moved past Me and then out of My apartment...

They were supposed to be Incoming around 2010 - 2011. If this is so - They've arrived early. Hmmm - The Verdants have been busy. Interesting indeed...

:lightsabre:

[eleni]

Hmmm - This reminds Me of the Pulses the Animus have put out.

I felt My first pulse in 89. Many since - Now experienced mainly as Clicks - Whistles - Tones - And changing Visions.

Saw the first wave go right across Our Reality in front of Me. A line actually went through the Reality with it being slightly different on both sides of this Diagonal Line as It moved past Me and then out of My apartment...

They were supposed to be Incoming around 2010 - 2011. If this is so - They've arrived early. Hmmm - The Verdants have been busy. Interesting indeed...

:lightsabre:

Can you elaborate on this?
I was out to dinner with someone last night and she was also familiar with this wave as well.

Ravens and Doves and I have spoken via phone and the conclusion we have is that we experienced similar events- complete with a warp/distortion.

As I mentioned, I was not the only one to experience it when I did- other's also had the scanning and time warp.....

[TraineeHuman]

I really loved the material in both the links people have given regarding kundalini awakening -- the delightful kundalini-teacher website and also the awakening-mind website. Hopefully that material makes it clear how the kundalini awakening is something just completely different from anything to do with the AI "wave".

I guess that one of the few connections is that with awakened kundalini you tend to become hyper-sensitive to when any kind of psychic energy is being used on you -- such as whenever somebody is thinking they want to repress you or oppress you in some way.

I feel the description on the awakening-mind website of what's involved in kundalini was very balanced and accurate. I happen to have known a number of individuals who were very much masters (or "mistresses") of kundalini energy. Yet over the years, some of them still on occasion fell deeply into the trap of what that essay calls "the fall". This refers to the fact that once the kundalini energy has been released, you can't afford to take a holiday from daily meditation or from accepting bliss in your life daily. (You have to kind of stay "high", so to speak. No other experience can match this "high".) Otherwise, you'll become confused and depressed, and it's a very rough ride regardless of what level of mastery you might have reached -- withdrawal symptoms, as the essay says. (Maybe that experience, of the consequences of withdrawing from opened kundalini, is in some way similar to what the AI "wave" can make you feel?)

Also, a kundalini awakening is usually much more subtle and less dramatic these days than what Gopi Krishna describes in the video above. It should be remembered that up until less than a hundred years ago, if a person experienced a kundalini awakening even once, they were then regarded as a great guru. These days, I notice that kundalini awakenings are often so subtle they seem to be happening more on a 4D level -- though they still always start from below the person's feet, then kind of build up "steam" and move up the body, eventually flowing to the over-soul, which is about 15 cm above the head.

[Kra]

Kra, I have never seen entities in a well lit environment so even if that protection was false ( I also burned large white candles) it soothed my soul and added a comfort that was not there say if the lights were completely out.

I understand... i had experienced almost the same thing. I didn't want to go out of body at that time but i felt like someone (something) was trying to force me... it was late in night i was trying to stay awake (for that reason) altough i was tired and after keeping my eyes closed for 2 minutes or so... my body fell asleep and i lost control of it (body possition didn't matter)... it was paralyzed (i am well aware of the process) and my mind was awake (as it usualy goes). And then i would "fight" to get out of that state and wake up and regain control of my physical body... and then again i closed my eyes for 2 minutes and it was enough. It happened like that for two hours or so. I... like you... kept the lights on but in that state when i was "not yet out of body" i saw a shadow of some sort (spherical vision) right next to me (it was not the first time). I don't know what that shadow was or what did he want and why it was next to me but i knew it had something to do with my forced out of body experience. It didn't even had a form i can't describe it... you probably understand what i'm saying. AstralWalker (Pane Andov) described something similar in his book "Extraordinary Powers in Humans"... when he was astral projecting such shadows attacked him. This is not the only reason for which i said keeping the lights on makes no difference but what you said is also true.

[Mercuriel]

Can you elaborate on this ?

On which aspect(s) of these Experiences would You like Me to elaborate ?

:winksmiley02:

[eleni]

On which aspect(s) of these Experiences would You like Me to elaborate ?

:winksmiley02:

Can you tell your story in full regarding how you discovered the AI system.
A friend of ours went to a psychic institute years ago in Sweden and was placed under a pyramid- he then levitated and came to have an experience he described which was terrifying to him of an all seeing eye. I'm not sure if that relates to the AI system or not though.

[Panta rhei]

Hopefully that material makes it clear how the kundalini awakening is something just completely different from anything to do with the AI "wave". I guess that one of the few connections is that with awakened kundalini you tend to become hyper-sensitive to when any kind of psychic energy is being used on you -- such as whenever somebody is thinking they want to repress you or oppress you in some way.

I completely agree, the kundalini awakening is something completely different from anything to do with this AI "wave" :). Yes with open kundalini you become hyper sentitive that is so true and you tend to interpret any disturbances as malevolent. Whenever you encounter someone else who thinks malevolent about you, you feel this! Not easy to deal with this and not easy to recognize this as your own responsibility, a mirror on your way so to speak.

I feel the description on the awakening-mind website of what's involved in kundalini was very balanced and accurate. I happen to have known a number of individuals who were very much masters (or "mistresses") of kundalini energy. Yet over the years, some of them still on occasion fell deeply into the trap of what that essay calls "the fall". This refers to the fact that once the kundalini energy has been released, you can't afford to take a holiday from daily meditation or from accepting bliss in your life daily.

(You have to kind of stay "high", so to speak. No other experience can match this "high".) Otherwise, you'll become confused and depressed, and it's a very rough ride regardless of what level of mastery you might have reached -- withdrawal symptoms, as the essay says. (Maybe that experience, of the consequences of withdrawing from opened kundalini, is in some way similar to what the AI "wave" can make you feel?)

Yes I know exactly what you mean by this, probably I took too much of a holiday from daily meditation and what you are referring to else ;) I'm sure that most of those negative symptoms come from our own responsibilities that we have to deal with and not with an 'AI wave'.

Also, a kundalini awakening is usually much more subtle and less dramatic these days than what Gopi Krishna describes in the video above. It should be remembered that up until less than a hundred years ago, if a person experienced a kundalini awakening even once, they were then regarded as a great guru. These days, I notice that kundalini awakenings are often so subtle they seem to be happening more on a 4D level -- though they still always start from below the person's feet, then kind of build up "steam" and move up the body, eventually flowing to the over-soul, which is about 15 cm above the head.
Kundalini awakenings must not be subtle it can be very intense, but I understand what you mean that a hundred years ago persons were regarded as a guru. Today there are a lot of persons who experience this all over the world, persons like you and me who are not regarded as gurus, it's a global phenomenon. And that's a good thing of course :)

And to some of us it's not subtle, it's very intense.

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Sorry for my bad English, I give my best :wink2:

[Ravens and Doves]

I was out to dinner with someone last night and she was also familiar with this wave as well.

Ravens and Doves and I have spoken via phone and the conclusion we have is that we experienced similar events- complete with a warp/distortion.

As I mentioned, I was not the only one to experience it when I did- other's also had the scanning and time warp.....


Elene and I agreed that UFO and/or consciousness conferences are magnets for all manner of phenomenon and surveillance from both the humanity-friendly and humanity-hostile agendas. For instance, I wanted to go to the Camelot LA Awake and Aware shin-dig very much, but it seems like there was an invisible wall keeping me from getting close to Burbank. I got in three minor car accidents (I'm a good driver) within two miles of the event and felt disoriented. Elene had her recent encounter with the IA probe the next day in the same area.

Kundalini is not the AI wave at all. K awakening makes a person more aware of it. It might take years, but ultimately kundalini heals and reveals. The changes can happen in a very short time, also.

Artemis, dKapacity, TraineeHuman, Majorion (Major Ion? Maj. Orion? ;-) ), Kra, Echo6, Mutruthseeker... the Avelonite with the walking lion avatar... and others who posted on this thread have warmed my heart deeply. Your suggestions, questions and overall vibes ring trusted and true. These days have been rough for me. I'm not suicidal, but I'm well trained in the crude, street art of gradual self-destruction. Kundalini energy is what I need again and I'm now working on getting into a place where I can be at peace with myself, help others, let others help me... and get this new, strange experience in perspective.

I'd like to add that seeing that photo of the Looking Glass mercury gas coil triggered something in me last November. In a few days I was "hearing voices" and felt the electricity change in the atmosphere. Like I posted earlier, I landed, willingly, in the county psych observation basket. I had no idea what lay ahead.

Yes, I did black out completely, but it was an hour or so after I (and others) felt the AI. In blackout the entities appeared... not grays, but large and humanoid. They weren't threatening, but were neutral and scooted the IA away. The strangest, vacuum-like sound occurred at the start of the blackness. After the event, I found myself staggering at the other side of the ward.... the spacial/dimensional warping was very disorienting.

For hours afterwards I had visions of nations preparing for a horrible war. Before I lived in the house that's in my photo album, I lived in a much bigger place that was the estate of Lord White (UK) and I felt that the Crown wanted her colonies back... just to see the Union Jack fly in the California sun before the earth changes shape. I was just road kill under the boots of the red-coats. Two months later (a couple weeks ago), I'm home and I watch the Camelot clip, "The Anglo-Saxon Mission." OH MY GOD.

There were other visions. I've never sensed a threat from England. I believe I just tapped into a psychically projected agenda... an invisible posturing that's as powerful as an atomic bomb, but in another time-line.

When I was a child, I saw a photograph of Elizabeth Windsor and felt that I would meet her some day. About 20 years later I did (with a handful of others... all in an awkward five minutes of silence). Prince Philip gives me the willies, but I can't wrap my mind around the queen in the same light. I don't know the details of all the who's-who's and what's-what's of the Masonic/Illuminatic web, but I have a strong feeling that whoever uses looking-glass technology becomes a part of a multi-dimensional, double time-line hall of mirrors (lacking a better term) that leaves a deep imprint. This hall of mirrors may well be traversed by the AI wave as an inter-dimensional highway interchange (?).

I better hit the hey stack.

No nightmares for me, this evening, please.

In Peace,

Paul

[Mercuriel]

Can you elaborate on this ?

Well - In 89 - I was sitting in My living room and I saw a Wave like a Line Move across the whole room from top to bottom - On a 45 with the bottom edge leading the 45 and it moving across My vision from right to left, then out of it. There was even a color perception difference after It.

I thought it was part of the Harmonic Convergence as this Effect had the result afterwards of making colors more vivid it seemed. It felt very Alien to Me though in that it didn't seem natural at the time. That said - I have "changed" a great deal since then so that may have been the reason. I didn't think more than that though about if afterwards until I came across some Information that correlated with another Research Strain I'd been on for awhile - That of the AI Terraflop and Petaflop Mainframes that are under Denver International Airport.

I'd learned that in 89 - Apparently - They (The Animus that is) had probed or received Information from this crude AI to the effect that We were here or that there was Life here on Earth. Evidently - The Animus had been unawares previously...

Now - Since 89 I have experienced many Pulses or Effects similar but different at the same time. That said - On only 2 occasions including the One I've described above did It seem to have this Non-Human or Not Natural Component to It.

I'd also learned that the Animus would likely now be on It's way to Us and We had until 2010 - 2011'ish Timeframe until They arrived in this Quadrant of the Milky Way...

What is/are the Animus aside from the Psychological Inferences made by People such as Yung or Freud who only used them as descriptors of a construct already named ?

Apparently - A Cyborg Race much like the Borg or so I am led to believe by My Information. Now please understand - There are many events that would have to occur for Them to even arrive here in this Timeline/Reality and I My intention is not to push a Fear-based Message here. In fact quite the opposite. I think that the best way to put it is that Efforts are being made above this Level Of Manifestation so as to prevent and or divert It.

Divert meaning that They would always arrive at an alt. timeline where We were never here or evolved to be here. That way - Or so I'm told - They'd arrive and no one would be home so to speak.

Hmmm eh ? We All get what We focus on - Ironically at times...

:thumb_yello:

[jacody]

No its no joke Paul

First time I experienced a wave was february 2001... but I see it as a black wave with dark energy coming… but that one was huge… I was sitting in my bed reading a book when I saw it enter my house…. I stop it and block it out of the house so it had to pass outside… what I understand from that one it was going around the world, meant to target lightworkers… we had became to much of a threat to the others… this summer funny things started to happened…. At least twice a week everything blacked out for a fraction of a second… I check the electric… the bulbs… the television and my computer… but found nothing wrong … it kept on like that for a couple of month… I started to think it was something wrong with my brain… that it was misfiring and turned my sight of for an instance… until…. It was coming a black wave in slowmotion where I was completely blind for a couple of seconds… everything turned black… but the way it came and that I saw how it moved told me it was absolutely not my brain… that was the last time I saw it… after that I hold a protection of intent around my house

I've had this happen both at my house and in other places like schools, the weird thing for me is that nobody else seems to notice the elctricity seemingly going out,this happening up to 2 or 3 times a day, though nothing seems to harm me.I don't quite understand what these waves are and why I seem to be the only one seeing them around here. Anybody who can explain this, please do!

[xbusymom]

I havent read thru all this thread, but (and I don't know if this is what it is-but it sounds like a good explanation of what I experience) I often get a mind-blanking effect sometimes when I try to actively send energies or "pray" for someone that suddenly comes to mind...

AND... I also think that is the next plan of attack TPTB are gearing up for...

just this morning I heard a radio commercial where the "company agent" instructed "his crew" to turn on some kind of frequency beam toward a consumer to demonstrate the effects of "mentally" enjoying a cheesier snack chip...

talk about "in your face programming"...

I may start a thread for TV and radio "sheeple programming" awareness...

[Gnosis5]

Hmmm - This reminds Me of the Pulses the Animus have put out.

I felt My first pulse in 89. Many since - Now experienced mainly as Clicks - Whistles - Tones - And changing Visions.

Saw the first wave go right across Our Reality in front of Me. A line actually went through the Reality with it being slightly different on both sides of this Diagonal Line as It moved past Me and then out of My apartment...

They were supposed to be Incoming around 2010 - 2011. If this is so - They've arrived early. Hmmm - The Verdants have been busy. Interesting indeed...

:lightsabre:

The only thing I can contribute to this data is that recently my sessions that were taking me back to my first separation from static started to run "funny", as if self-sabotaged somehow. But I also checked for exterior infuence and got a read of an AI facility somewhere in Colorado. A fellow spiritual clearer, independently of my knowledge, also had an encounter with the intent to stop him.

I looked around the AI facility and my attention was on the bio-engineering (addressing that now in clearing work) level. But I also saw a huge mechanism (I'm NOT an engineer, more an aesthetique) and lo and behold there was a picture of me on one of their screen -- in real time, because I was munching some snack, and on the screen I was also munching on same snack! "Hey! That's me!"

The mechanism came across to me as an AI/Time Shifting device. It also ties in with my relationship with a certain Draco who appears to be a future me and a past me and who escaped the facility, but not without shredding the ends of his wings. Now I know why I saw him originally without his uniform -- probably cannot time shift with too much extraneous material.

Oh, also, some alarm due to my presence and awareness of them and someone in a white lab coat got busy on an instrument panel. Then I went down to a "basement" area and saw a black sticky pool and a Baphomet type entity was coming up out of the black pool. It was quite a passive entity -- looked like it would need to be programmed, which I surmise is what they do in the "basement".

Looks like they are covering all the bases.

Because of my particular attention on the bio-engineering section, I am now connecting with a being who played a major universe-role in bringing bodies to the forefront in this universe. This being once loomed large in my spiritual karmic history but now, upon clearing him, I see he is still a small player. However, he seems to have played a major role on this category of planet bodies.

The beings who I call the "AnnunakI", or you might call "Verdants" (hyperversals, "Keepers of the Technologies" they call themselves) seem to be now looming large on my karmic radar.

Yes, super agreement on the historical fact that when beings start to become aware planet-wide, off-planet forces come into play when self-awareness reaches a level above tolerance. In addition to raising one's self-awareness, it seems one must also be aware of and know how to clear negative polarized beings. Well, that's a mouthful and wish I could state it less awkwardly, but this is still a somewhat new way of seeing what I am seeing, but I have not seen anything yet that I did not feel confident a few of us could connect with and clear :-)

The way I see it these beings secretly, deep down, really want to be healed, why else would they come knocking on my door :naughty:

[Mercuriel]

Yeah the factionalized Dracos really hate being RV'ed. I can sense it every time I RV Them.

Its hilarious really - I show up - They percieve Me RV'ing Them - They then act with disdain (Scowls, Snarls, clenching Their fists and such) that I'm actually able to do this - And then They all go into stop-motion while looking at Me with the same expressions I've mentioned above.

It's like They've been told to not move when We (Humans that is) RV Them. Nowadays - I just show up and RV Them for a half hour or so at a time and it really seems to miff Them as They seem to have to remain immoblile while I'm there.

Its Hilarious but very surreal actually...

:winksmiley02:

[Gnosis5]

LOL, I can see that LOL !! Sometimes I'm tempted to mess with other beings too, but then I have to be willing to have them mess with me as a return flow.

Mostly I just stick to business, don't fraternize, do the work and leave.
A mouse that sticks to the walls, moves fast, and ignores the cheese :-)

[Gnosis5]

That is a very interesting post. As far as I am aware, there are several different AIs operating at this point in 'time'. Some far worse than others. And yes, I have experienced the effects of some of them.

My personal experience is that while I was processing towards a higher awareness of the "Static" something started to interfere. Not that I have not experienced interference, but this was of a different sort.

To date, what I am seeing/experiencing is on a relay and the first stub of the relay transmitted to me from Colorado and when I temporarily stalled it, a smaller Mars relay took over.

Upon closer inspection, I was aware of an entity within the AI, I affectionately call it the "Gray Octopus Within the Machine". We have seen that itself is not quite happy with its containment and seems someone or somehow it has been injected with increased life and awareness and now wants out of its confines.

I know personally of 3 others who have grown in awareness of it. If it overplays its hand again in my processing we will go and raise its awareness and free it to go wherever it wishes to go, that is if someone has not already done the job for us. In my universe all rise up in awareness of win/win games, leave the collapsing matrix.

Of course, as always, this little drama would not be occurring if we did not have some karmic connection/affinity with the construct of AI. That too will be looked at and cleared.

[Gnosis5]

Yeah the factionalized Dracos really hate being RV'ed. I can sense it every time I RV Them.

Its hilarious really - I show up - They percieve Me RV'ing Them - They then act with disdain (Scowls, Snarls, clenching Their fists and such) that I'm actually able to do this - And then They all go into stop-motion while looking at Me with the same expressions I've mentioned above.

It's like They've been told to not move when We (Humans that is) RV Them. Nowadays - I just show up and RV Them for a half hour or so at a time and it really seems to miff Them as They seem to have to remain immoblile while I'm there.

Its Hilarious but very surreal actually...

:winksmiley02:

By the way what do the Dracos look like, facially? I'm referring to the winged ones, not the coarser reptilians.

[Gnosis5]

I went back to my room at around 4:15 that morning. I got ready for bed and turned the light off- all of a sudden I saw and felt a scanner, scanning me-
at that point I realized what was happening and why (the why this was happening is the part I cannot divulge because it would *out* someone- let's just say I spent a good portion of the night speaking with this person) for some odd reason the AI system let me get a glimpse of what is behind it.

When that occurred, a warp type scenario/other dimensional type situation was underway right there in the room......it was very weird, very alien and hard to describe....

I cannot say *who* is behind the AI system- only that I sensed great malevolence and a very alien presence.

I forced myself to stay awake for several hours until it was light out and then I closed my eyes for an hour or so to get some rest.


I don't think the average person has to worry about the AI system- it only surveilled me because of who I was with and there is probably nothing anyone can do about it unless they know how it operates.

Am more inclined to think that if it is Annunaki based as Bill says, then one would only have to worry if they are in contact with a person working with the Annunaki's etc; that being the Annunaki's want to make sure nothing is being said about them etc; that's just a guess and I can't say what type of AI system Ravens and Dove's encountered.

Last week we sent a planetary Annunaki Overlord (stationed in area of Tibet) back to his source, and also a being one level above him. One person told me about 52,000 people on this planet are targeted for scheduled AI transmission which does not damage the spiritual being, but to the extent a being is confused between himself and his constructs, it can have the apparency of doing damage.

You know what this means? Those 52,000 are doing something "right" and are becoming uncomfortably aware.

In the larger scope, if Earth is nothing more than the "big toe", then a higher up general will cut off his big toe to save his foot, and that is a concern. Suggestions from lightworkers for helping to form strategy are welcome.

[eleni]

We had 2 more AI encounters in my house this past week- maybe Aaron will speak about it tomorrow.......

[MargueriteBee]

This topic is stretching my brain, really, really, stretching it.:mfr_omg: I'm gonna reread this thread again and see if I can get my mind around it.

[Mercuriel]

By the way what do the Dracos look like, facially? I'm referring to the winged ones, not the coarser reptilians.

It depends on what Caste referred to but Viperish is a good desciptor. Like Us and many other Species though - They seem to have a great deal of variation in Color - Mottles - Stipes - Panels/Plates if You will. Height and general looks as to body type vary as well.

BTW - One Heart under each Arm (Armpit) and Their Lungs are Front to Back - Not Left and Right. Its matter of fact to think though - No Head - No Problem...

They also have an Aversion to Cats. Big Story there, but too long for this Thread...

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[Dougall]

That's some pretty scary stuff! To tell the truth I don't like to think about it because I believe that when you open your mind to that sort of thing it can come to you in your dreams. I think the dream life is real in the sense that our mind is projecting everything we see. I am not saying you dreamed it but rather you may have first become aware of AI in your dreams. Then gradually it becomes part of your conscious reality. In any case it sounds unbearable.

[Mercuriel]

Actually - These Beings while in the past have "prompted" Me to Investigate Their nature shall We say - Now - From an "All That Is" Perspective, I've RV'ed Them while Conscious and affirmed to Myslef to do It.

BTW - I only RV while Conscious. When I sleep - I dream rarely. Some say that means those Who do go back to Source but No Fear at all on My behalf. LOL - My dear - Its just a Skin Suit anyways. Once You are risen above Hierarchy - Heirarchy controls You no more. Heirarchy is Polarity/Dualism and the need to be Controlled as We will not control Ourselves.

You really should Google Remote Viewing and do some Research on It. "To Be a Thing is to know a Thing. One cannot be without knowing and through that knowing - Remove any Fear in Understanding..."

Q - Riddle Me this - When do We panic ?

A - When We know not what to do...

http://www.farsight.org/

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