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Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 01:21 PM
I don't like to spread negativity.....but feel I need to speak out when something does not feel right.
I just got done listening to the
Aaron McCollum interview
And I could tell this story from just my ramblings around the web.
Besides claiming that I was in the military.....I could have gave this interview.
There are a few well known names thrown in as a resume but this just doesn't have a good vibe...
Just shouting out....Peace Y'all
Tango
01-28-2010, 05:21 PM
Star,
Sooo... How's your B.S. meter... I don't normally listen to the interviews...
Bob Dean... Yes,,,, Oh... I, did watch the one where the flies were on the set....
The Greer Joke... So, is this another Don't Bother...
Tell me straight.. Star...
Trooly,
Tango
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
01-28-2010, 05:38 PM
im on to it now, just starting first look at the thumbnail and im already cautiuos, but then im always on the back foot nowadays with my scepticles on.:roll1:
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
01-28-2010, 06:01 PM
wow i jut watched the first ten seconds and alarm bells are ringing already. looks like he works in a bar on 6th st in austin.. :lol3:
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 06:13 PM
Namaste. Hate to point out one would be delusional to think they could have given this interview. You are not him. And most likely have no idea the horrors this man has been through. Talking about torture. You probably fold if the police asked you for ID. Obvious you really have no idea.
I think once you hear why he has the tattoo's you wont be so quick to stereotype his looks. You just wait for the full interview. That interview was a small taste.
Fredkc
01-28-2010, 06:20 PM
Take a breath folk.
1. This is part 1 of what looks to be a 2 part interview.
2. He does say the tats, and such take some explaining, and will get to it.
3. He does do a decent show of being calm, but he is stressed in this video.
4. All of these people have lived very compartmentalized lives. Always keep that in mind. Hold in your head the very real possibility that what they "know" is an affect. A result.
5. He is from SoCal, so tending bar in Austin would be quita commute ;)
Fred
mntruthseeker
01-28-2010, 06:24 PM
I happen to think his interview was good.
I have to go along with judgemental on this one
The man has been through alot in his life and I doubt that he would bring up Dave Corso's name so freely if he was a BS'er.
He says he gets information from many sources and will release many names soon. I believe he will and would of today except something held him off. Maybe it was Kerry and Bill as they wanted to check into something first.
redtailhawk
01-28-2010, 06:24 PM
I like him; and I look forward to what he has to say in his next interview.
I think it is important to keep an open mind, and not be so quick to judge.
I commend him for having the courage and bravery to speak his truth.
I happen to think his interview was good.
I have to go along with judgemental on this one
The man has been through alot in his life and I doubt that he would bring up Dave Corso's name so freely if he was a BS'er.
He says he gets information from many sources and will release many names soon. I believe he will and would of today except something held him off. Maybe it was Kerry and Bill as they wanted to check into something first.
I also am of the same opinion mntruthseeker. Did anyone notice his continous glances to the left? It seemed quite unnuatural. The most he did this was an hour into the interview. Be interested to read about others' opinions on this.
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 06:28 PM
Also like to point out there is no way you can blink both sets of eyes like he is.
redtailhawk
01-28-2010, 06:30 PM
I also am of the same opinion mntruthseeker. Did anyone notice his continous glances to the left? It seemed quite unnuatural. The most he did this was an hour into the interview. Be interested to read about others' opinions on this.
I noticed that too. To me he appeared to almost be shape shifting....but there was also some one else in the room, so he could have just been glancing over at them.
I noticed that too. To me he appeared to almost be shape shifting....but there was also some one else in the room, so he could have just been glancing over at them.
I tried to glance that quick a few times but found it impossible especially glancing that quick and blinking at the same time - I wonder if it has anything to do with manipulation of his DNA?
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 06:42 PM
He is a hibread. That should be obvious. I mentioned the eyes to make a point about Stargazer1965 being able to give the interview. I am personally more interested in what he has to say than what his DNA is made of.
metaw3
01-28-2010, 06:44 PM
Did anyone notice his continous glances to the left? It seemed quite unnuatural. The most he did this was an hour into the interview. Be interested to read about others' opinions on this.
Click here to watch where it starts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22S2TNMf8v4#t=1h04m20s
Carol is saying that it could be related to "accessing a memory with respect to something that was heard":
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=230038#post230038
but there was also some one else in the room, so he could have just been glancing over at them.
Yes. I think he was not sure if he should have mentioned "the Omega program" and if not, he would pick it up from the other person in the room (on his left).
Also like to point out there is no way you can blink both sets of eyes like he is.
Right. I tried and it's almost impossible. It looks like he does this to use his peripheral vision.
Fredkc
01-28-2010, 06:51 PM
The "blink, then look off to the left" thing is someone collecting their thoughts. At least that seems to be what I do, when answering questions.
2nd guessing the man, isn't really required. After all, another interview seems scheduled.
taking another breath...
Fred
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 06:53 PM
That's 31 minutes between breaths Fredkc. You might want to see a doctor about that. :tongue2:
5thElement
01-28-2010, 06:57 PM
Thank you Meta for the link :thumb_yello:
I am at work so cannot listen to the interview - therefore I just watched the clip that Meta linked and observed body language.
The eyes - whoa:shocked:
I tried to do that - almost instant headache. If he is "faking" that took some practice. It looks involuntary to me. It also appeared that his pupils changed sizes and that he had a small twitch on lower lid of his left eye after the movements started. Maybe just my imagination or the lighting in the interview area - but - it also looked like his eyes changed color.
When is the 2nd interview?
El
He is a hibread. That should be obvious. I mentioned the eyes to make a point about Stargazer1965 being able to give the interview. I am personally more interested in what he has to say than what his DNA is made of.
I'm also interested in what he has to say but am also fasincated by what his DNA is made of!
Fredkc
01-28-2010, 07:18 PM
Carol is saying that it could be related to "accessing a memory with respect to something that was heard"Ok, I went and watched. If you mean the eye movement at 1:04:30 thru 1:04:55 then...
yeah, that is just someone lookking at memory in response to what is said to them, and such. Recalling what they know in response to someone (also "fact checking" what's said to them (note head nodding in agreement) ), while trying to listen to them at the same time. They have something to say, but the other person is talking.
Years of car salesmen lying to me about their broken computers, saying, "Honest! I didn't to anything!" has taught me something, at least. ;)
Note to JudgeMental: 9 minutes to the next breath. :tongue2:
Ammit
01-28-2010, 07:18 PM
Umm, those eyes are bugging me, lots more to be seen as I also managed to see eye changes,
just wished someone could slow down that section of the movie,
also whats with the constant clearing of the throat?.
Fredkc
01-28-2010, 07:21 PM
also whats with the constant clearing of the throat?.
Uh........... phlem?
Ammit
01-28-2010, 07:26 PM
Realy, that much at 31 years of age?, sort of thing I would expect from an older person or someone with lung or nerve problems.
Ah well, it was just a question...
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
01-28-2010, 07:31 PM
Realy, that much at 31 years of age?, sort of thing I would expect from an older person or someone with lung or nerve problems.
Ah well, it was just a question... smoker?
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 07:32 PM
You guys are getting really wrapped up with his presence on the video. This is cool a dose of reality on beings in our world. But keep it cool. He is just another being in the universe and our brother. An equal to you or I. How about we discuss his words.
You guys are getting really wrapped up with his presence on the video. This is cool a dose of reality on beings in our world. But keep it cool. He is just another being in the universe and our brother. An equal to you or I. How about we discuss his words.
We are keeping it cool JudgeMental. I’m sure many of us here including myself don’t just listen to the words, we also incorporate body language and any anomalies we can pick up to get the bigger picture.
It’s obvious he’s going out of his way to bring out this information and although he said that he’s done quite a lot of bad things, I’m sure quiet a lot of bad things have been done to him and now he’s trying to make up for it (as he says). We’re all trying to connect the dots here and there’s nothing uncool about that. So chill – we’re all on the same page here. :original:
Peace.
tone3jaguar
01-28-2010, 07:48 PM
I think he is a good guy and is genuine. I did not watch the entire interview but I did my usual standby method of intuitive discernment (pendulum dowsing). I asked two simple questions.
1. What percentage of the information he presented does he believe to be accurate.
(83%)
2. What percentage of the information he presented is actually factually accurate.
(23%)
Seeing as how he willingly informed the viewer when he was assuming something based off of his own research, I think that he is an honest person. It will be interesting to see how the accuracy of his next interview where he tells his personal story turns out. Also, I asked if the information about the stargate in the Gulf of Aden where true or not. It dowses up true. Tonight I going to attempt to remote view it.
I also checked to see if the stargate where opened by artificial means by either us or the ETs and this came up a no. Therefore, I would assume that it is a natural byproduct of the increasing frequency of consciousness of the hyperdimensional geometry of the planet.
I think he is a good guy and is genuine. I did not watch the entire interview but I did my usual standby method of intuitive discernment (pendulum dowsing). I asked two simple questions.
1. What percentage of the information he presented does he believe to be accurate.
(83%)
2. What percentage of the information he presented is actually factually accurate.
(23%)
Seeing as how he willingly informed the viewer when he was assuming something based off of his own research, I think that he is an honest person. It will be interesting to see how the accuracy of his next interview where he tells his personal story turns out. Also, I asked if the information about the stargate in the Gulf of Aden where true or not. It dowses up true. Tonight I going to attempt to remote view it.
I also checked to see if the stargate where opened by artificial means by either us or the ETs and this came up a no. Therefore, I would assume that it is a natural byproduct of the increasing frequency of consciousness of the hyperdimensional geometry of the planet.
It'd be interesting to see what info you come up with tone3jaguar. Just wondering about whether you were specific about either 'good' ETs or 'bad' ET's when you dowsed?
enemyofNWO
01-28-2010, 07:56 PM
I don't like to spread negativity.....but feel I need to speak out when something does not feel right.
I just got done listening to the Aaron McCollum interview
And I could tell this story from just my ramblings around the web.
True . But apparently Aaron has been recognized by Duncan O' Finioan and Corso . To me he appears genuine . Some of the details of his story resonate with James Casbolt's story and the Watcher ( PLF) . It seem that the MK ultra programming with times becomes less reliable and memories of the different personalities merge .
Details of how the controllers want their victims to be financially broke , helpless , etc etc resonate also with some personal experience .
I will be looking forward to the next interview .
Majorion
01-28-2010, 08:04 PM
Seeing as how he willingly informed the viewer when he was assuming something based off of his own research, I think that he is an honest person.
Same here.
Before I watched the video I thought it would be a dud, but really I watched the whole thing and was surprised and enjoyed it. He seems an interesting young guy with a lot of stuff to share.
I agree with him about the false flags he was speaking about, and I felt on that basis he is quite well informed.
Ultimately the talk about stargates; I cannot verify, but a lot of the other stuff he talked about I thought was true. His next interview should be good, I look forward to it.
Of course there is always the possibility that people like him are phony, but until I see evidence for that, I think hes being honest.
aroundthetable
01-28-2010, 08:14 PM
I like him; and I look forward to what he has to say in his next interview.
I think it is important to keep an open mind, and not be so quick to judge.
I commend him for having the courage and bravery to speak his truth.
me too :original:
After i watched i tubed gulf of aden stargate, one of them is apparently blocked in this country by reuters (?) the other one was almost a template of what mr mccollum said and was put up i believe a couple of days before he did interview ( which is perhaps why stargazer1965 said what he said?). Either way the next interview should reveal more.
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
01-28-2010, 08:16 PM
seems interesting, nice chap, very interesting info..
deb003
01-28-2010, 08:18 PM
after this interview, I'm starting to take "timetotelltheworld" even more seriously.
we really are kept in the dark as to what is really going on anywhere.
it's a bitter/sweet awakening for me to be honest, but i'm gratefull, i am finally started to get a little bit of the bigger picture.
5thElement
01-28-2010, 08:21 PM
Umm, those eyes are bugging me, lots more to be seen as I also managed to see eye changes,
just wished someone could slow down that section of the movie,
also whats with the constant clearing of the throat?.
Ammit - I believe you & I work in the same field. It just occured to me (light bulb moment)- disassociation. Could an alter (personality) have been taking over, or attempting to?
I have only worked with 2 people with disassociative disorders ( aka multiple personalities).
Any one else have experience in the MH field?
El
Ammit - I believe you & I work in the same field. It just occured to me (light bulb moment)- disassociation. Could an alter (personality) have been taking over, or attempting to?
I have only worked with 2 people with disassociative disorders ( aka multiple personalities).
Any one else have experience in the MH field?
El
I don't believe another personality was attempting to take over as he kept glancing and blinking through out the whole interview which was one and half hours long and I've never come across someone where a personality takes that long to take over.
deb003
01-28-2010, 08:33 PM
I found this on youtube.com. posted over one year ago.
"Gulf Of Aden - The Coming Conflict"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0rP6sTaGgk
5thElement
01-28-2010, 08:34 PM
I don't believe another personality was attempting to take over as he kept glancing and blinking through out the whole interview which was one and half hours long and I've never come across someone where a personality takes that long to take over.
Thanks Gita - I only wathced the small clip Meta posted earlier in the thread. I plan on watching the entire thing tonight.
El
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 09:42 PM
I would hate to see this thread drift off about if its true or not. Nothing about his words really mentioned. Nothing about how you can research all the information for yourself like he mentions. Take more than his word for it. He wasn't kidding.... Google it.
My thoughts about his words.
Relate what he is saying about the Stargate and think about the parting of the Red Sea story. Now Imagine their was a Stargate involved. Stargate open.. "Lets run though it", Stargate closed.. "Oh sorry were you following us?". The information he is sharing and the history of the Stargate may be way "deeper" than we think. No pun intended.
hollylindin
01-28-2010, 09:46 PM
It seem that the MK ultra programming with times becomes less reliable
I was thinking on exactly this today while watching him: "How is it that so many of these guys who've been programmed are now having memories? How is it that the programming is so unreliable?" And I got an answer right away: The programming ISN'T unreliable and is meant to stick forever, but these memories are coming back because of the rising vibrational frequency of us and the planet. The frequency is rising because CONSCIOUSNESS is rising, because we're becoming totally awake and aware - and because of those reasons, those things which are supposed to be secrets and locked away in someone's mind (like being mind-controlled.) JUST AREN'T STICKING. Our brains are too powerful now because the subconscious has been coming into our conscious life more and more and more. Our souls are evolving!
I loved this interview. It wasn't my favourite Project Camelot interview, but I intuitively felt pretty well everything he was saying was on the level. No alarm bells went off for me (and I could name a few Project Camelot interviews that rang bells for me straight away!), and I agreed with quite a bit of what he said. Almost all of it. The only bits I DIDN'T agree with were that I don't believe a false flag attack will succeed in Yemen or anywhere connected to it.
That doesn't mean I don't think they'll TRY 'cause I think they will. But because of our rising consciousness, because we even have people who were SO controlled (like some Bible-thumpers, for example!) but are waking up now and seeing the truth about religion and government and E.T.'s and all of that, I believe we are making HUGE headway now. We are living in a beautiful history right now, and I think all these negative things (of which the powers that used to be have been lately so desperate to roll out.) will fall apart - the false flag with the States and/or Yemen high up on that list. Look how the "attack" with the "Underwear Bomber" fell through! I believe we'll see a lot more of that.
Either way, WE are the power. I heard that from a lovely Pleidean once and haven't looked back since. :)
<3
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 09:49 PM
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Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 09:50 PM
Hey guys and gals....
It's not about stereotyping of the TATs.....It's not about the crazy eye movements...
It's my self guided internal BS meter.....and please ...
Be Judge Mental for yourself. :naughty:
I just except something new under the sun and when the same ideas come out with the dust blown off of them....The meter keeps clicking up
About as much waste of celluloid as ZOOLANDER
in all fairness....I'll watch part 2 but I have to start my eye aerobics class.
And a one...side...and a 2 ...Side
You there in the back...No blinking!!!!
Peace Y'all
hollylindin
01-28-2010, 09:52 PM
I would hate to see this thread drift off about if its true or not. Nothing about his words really mentioned. Nothing about how you can research all the information for yourself like he mentions. Take more than his word for it. He wasn't kidding.... Google it.
My thoughts about his words.
Relate what he is saying about the Stargate and think about the parting of the Red Sea story. Now Imagine their was a Stargate involved. Stargate open.. "Lets run though it", Stargate closed.. "Oh sorry were you following us?". The information he is sharing and the history of the Stargate may be way "deeper" than we think. No pun intended.
For having such a (what I would call.) negative name like "JudgeMental", you seem VERY open-minded! I appreciate that. :) And I appreciate what you've been saying throughout this thread.
His story resonated with me, and you're right - if one has doubt, one must look no further than to do their own research. I felt his story about Yemen and the Gulf Of Aden was 100% on the level, even amidst his eye ticks and mannerisms and tattoos (though that doesn't matter, really). He had a pure energy, and it seemed to me he WAS controlled at one point, but he feels like a FIGHTER, you know? Somebody who won't back down and never did. This is why I think he's showing what I would say are signs of being manipulated (the eye thing made me think, "Reptillian", but considering how I feel about him, I would say POSITIVE Reptillian.) but still feels on the level. Anyway, those are just my thoughts. Thank you for yours!
<3
hollylindin
01-28-2010, 09:54 PM
riiiiiiiiiiight
Was I too early in saying you are open-minded?
Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 09:56 PM
I would hate to see this thread drift off about if its true or not. Nothing about his words really mentioned. Nothing about how you can research all the information for yourself like he mentions. Take more than his word for it. He wasn't kidding.... Google it.
My thoughts about his words.
Relate what he is saying about the Stargate and think about the parting of the Red Sea story. Now Imagine their was a Stargate involved. Stargate open.. "Lets run though it", Stargate closed.. "Oh sorry were you following us?". The information he is sharing and the history of the Stargate may be way "deeper" than we think. No pun intended.
But in Honesty Judge.....
I bet I could sit you down in front of the camera and you give me as many details as you got out of this interview.
Nothing a well read member of this forum could not provide....
Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 09:56 PM
Was I too early in saying you are open-minded?
I was wondering if you saw that......
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 09:58 PM
Well thanks for doing your job Stargazer1965. Baiting in people .Waiting to see what they have to say. And then poking at the only one making sense. Followed by negative remarks relating facts to zoolander.
I love you and your bosses Stargazer1965. People like you really help us out. Thankyou.
:gun_bandana: :huglove:
hollylindin
01-28-2010, 10:00 PM
riiiiiiiiiiight
Was this posted for me or someone else? <3
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
01-28-2010, 10:03 PM
i look forward to installment 2
hopefully the next one will contain the new info
Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 10:06 PM
Well thanks for doing your job Stargazer1965. Baiting in people .Waiting to see what they have to say. And then poking at the only one making sense. Followed by negative remarks relating facts to zoolander.
I love you and your bosses Stargazer1965. People like you really help us out. Thankyou.
:gun_bandana: :huglove:
There is a nice thread about downplaying and conquering the EGO Judge.
I used a play on words and I actually respect your opinion....for it is yours.
My boss is my wife....I'll tell her you said..HEY!!
I did not bait you here...you came on your own
I did not lie in wait for you...I had a busy day
If you think I serve someone else....Look up my past posts
then decide for yourself
Not sure about the little smiley guy gunning folks down....
Peace y'all
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 10:10 PM
Yes. I am stoked about the next interview. Should be soon I would imagine. This man has much information to share. Lets send him our love for his bravery in coming out.
hollylindin. Not directed at you.
Stargazer1965. Just an observation. Comment, Ego would be starting a thread called "I could have done the McCollum interview"
hollylindin
01-28-2010, 10:13 PM
This man has much information to share. Lets send him our love for his bravery in coming out.
I 100% agree. I feel that he's gone through a lot but is still standing, and that's something to be appreciated. I really look forward to hearing all about where he comes from and why he's where he is now. That's always a brilliant thing to learn about somebody. :)
None of this in-fighting helps! We're all on a path to truth - it's just that each path starts out in a different place. And the truth is coming out, whistleblower after whistleblower. Even the ones I haven't felt great about, I've learned something.
<3
Kulapops
01-28-2010, 10:27 PM
I think it's ok to be skeptical...even to be funny while being skeptical...
I think it's good if threads are there for people to post from both sides of the view..otherwise, what you end up with is peer pressure... If a video seems c**p... someone starts a thread saying it's BS and everyone agreees. Fine... But if someone says they think it's true, they get laughed at.
So if everyone thinks something's true, and someone disagrees, that's fine too by me. It's not disinformation, and if they make me laugh while putting their view across, so much the better.
I actually love Zoolander... but I haven't seen this film... but already I'm applying my own acid test of 1) believable fact (the Jews escaped the red sea waters + 2) Interesting plausible fact (because a star gate opened up) = a good story.
An before you all land on my head...I'm going to watch the movie tomorrow, then I'll report back and pick a side...:original:
Love you...
K
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 10:30 PM
Off topic we go. This is me trying to keep it on topic.:wall:
Some more thoughts on his words from the community would be great.
Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 10:37 PM
I think it's ok to be skeptical...even to be funny while being skeptical...
I think it's good if threads are there for people to post from both sides of the view..otherwise, what you end up with is peer pressure... If a video seems c**p... someone starts a thread saying it's BS and everyone agreees. Fine... But if someone says they think it's true, they get laughed at.
So if everyone thinks something's true, and someone disagrees, that's fine too by me. It's not disinformation, and if they make me laugh while putting their view across, so much the better.
I actually love Zoolander... but I haven't seen this film... but already I'm applying my own acid test of 1) believable fact (the Jews escaped the red sea waters + 2) Interesting plausible fact (because a star gate opened up) = a good story.
An before you all land on my head...I'm going to watch the movie tomorrow, then I'll report back and pick a side...:original:
Love you...
K
Excellent KP....What we have here 2 different opinions and someone got their ego bruised.
Alright...Zoolander had a FEW funny parts.
Peace Y'all
PS...this ain't a fight...no one got BANNED yet...but...it's still early by my watch
:lol3:
Carol
01-28-2010, 10:39 PM
Aaron McCollum is a young man who has been through a lot for his short span on the planet. I'm somewhat surprised at how a few members are once again disecting the person, his appearance, his delivery of his information and attempting to discredit him.
It is exactly this type of critical behavior that prevents other witnesses from stepping forward. What witnesses are doing by sharing what they know and revealing their stories is incredibly courageous. They put their lives in danger by doing these interviews. For example we all know Mr. X ended up dead within days after his last interview with Camelot.
What is it with some of the members here? Are there new spooks planted on this forum? I see new members who really are somewhat nasty in their assessment of a witness telling their story and post almost nothing about the content of his story but instead focus on which direction his eyes are looking towards.
It is understandable that Aaron is nervous and swallowing a lot. He had a support person sitting off to his side because sharing what he knows is scary stuff. He knows what the ramifications are about taking such action and they aren't pretty. Also, when a person looks to the side they are recalling something they heard, looking up is something seen or read, and looking down one is accessing (remembering) emotions. Basic NLP.
I would suggest one listen to the story with eyes closed if visual stimulous is so distracting and listen with one's heart. There are brain cells in the heart and at least in the heart the ego doesn't get in the way of true judgment.
THEWATCHER
01-28-2010, 10:47 PM
Jury is still out on this one, but hey if Duncan and Dave say he is cool he must be cool, found these links which might be of no interest or relevance at all
Links re Aaron McCollum
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391740/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3354499/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391740/fullcredits#cast
Anyways, whom am I to speak LOL?
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 10:48 PM
Thank you Carol. Glad someone else noticed. Well said.
Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 10:50 PM
Aaron McCollum is a young man who has been through a lot for his short span on the planet. I'm somewhat surprised at how a few members are once again disecting the person, his appearance, his delivery of his information and attempting to discredit him.
It is exactly this type of critical behavior that prevents other witnesses from stepping forward. What witnesses are doing by sharing what they know and revealing their stories is incredibly courageous. They put their lives in danger by doing these interviews. For example we all know Mr. X ended up dead within days after his last interview with Camelot.
What is it with some of the members here? Are there new spooks planted on this forum? I see new members who really are somewhat nasty in their assessment of a witness telling their story and post almost nothiing about the content of his story but instead focus on which directions the eyes are looking toward.
It is understandable that Aaron is nervous and swallowing a lot. He had a support person sitting off to his side because sharing what he knows is scary stuff. He knows what the ramifications are about taking such action and they aren't pretty. Also.. when a person looks to the side they are recalling something they heard, looking up is something seen or read, and looking down one is accessing (remembering) emotions. Basic NLP.
I would suggest one listen to the story with eyes closed if visual stimulous is so distracting and listen with one's heart. There are braincells in the heart and at least in the heart the ego doesn't get in the way of true judgment.
Hey Carol...
I understand what you are saying ....and could I do that..
Yeah if I thought I had something to add....I'd grab someone with a camera and tell the world.
What he looks like or what he does with his eyes really did not play a part into why I started this.
I wanted to express that I feel frustrated by the content...I felt nothing new was brought to the table.
My opinion...only valid in my three feet of reality.
I mulled it over several times before I started....I have not watched a Camelot interview since Pete Peterson.
When I logged in this morning...splashed across the screen was a link for this new interview.
You are probably right....the guy is brave
and I hope to discourage no one from coming forward...but as I stand at the front of the room...I know I'll be critiqued.
Just as I am about this thread.
And I can take it because I knew before I started
I did not think I would be called an Agent...but Oh well
Least the blood is a pumpin'
We all take a risk Carol.....Peace and Aloha
IndigoChild1986
01-28-2010, 10:55 PM
Thank you for the interview, I confirm this being real with my psycho abilities
hollylindin
01-28-2010, 10:58 PM
Aaron McCollum is a young man who has been through a lot for his short span on the planet. I'm somewhat surprised at how a few members are once again disecting the person, his appearance, his delivery of his information and attempting to discredit him.
It is exactly this type of critical behavior that prevents other witnesses from stepping forward. What witnesses are doing by sharing what they know and revealing their stories is incredibly courageous. They put their lives in danger by doing these interviews. For example we all know Mr. X ended up dead within days after his last interview with Camelot.
What is it with some of the members here? Are there new spooks planted on this forum? I see new members who really are somewhat nasty in their assessment of a witness telling their story and post almost nothiing about the content of his story but instead focus on which directions the eyes are looking toward.
It is understandable that Aaron is nervous and swallowing a lot. He had a support person sitting off to his side because sharing what he knows is scary stuff. He knows what the ramifications are about taking such action and they aren't pretty. Also.. when a person looks to the side they are recalling something they heard, looking up is something seen or read, and looking down one is accessing (remembering) emotions. Basic NLP.
I would suggest one listen to the story with eyes closed if visual stimulous is so distracting and listen with one's heart. There are braincells in the heart and at least in the heart the ego doesn't get in the way of true judgment.
Beautiful words, Carol. I send tons of love to you! <3
JudgeMental
01-28-2010, 11:12 PM
Someone to remain unnamed PM'd me and asked if I was McCollum. I was very flattered someone would think I might be him or know as much as him. But you are way off. I am nobody and everybody.
Still like to stay focused on his words.
Carol
01-28-2010, 11:20 PM
I wasn't referring to you Star and do not think you're a spook. :mfr_lol:
TempestGarden
01-28-2010, 11:31 PM
Aaron McCollum is a young man who has been through a lot for his short span on the planet. I'm somewhat surprised at how a few members are once again disecting the person, his appearance, his delivery of his information and attempting to discredit him.
Carol... you are definitely not new to this forum by any means. This sort of thing happens ALL the time, especially when new interviews come out. I'm really surprised that you just noticed this. I don't care for it either, but the minute a new interview is posted, the floodgates open and all these people step forward and do everything they can to discredit these people.
Stargazer1965
01-28-2010, 11:50 PM
I wasn't referring to you Star and do not think you're a spook. :mfr_lol:
Whew.....I thought I had devolved.....
I hope I did clear myself up some....Peace Y'all
Chamber
01-28-2010, 11:51 PM
It's so funny because I thought the EXACT same thing after I saw the interview...then I saw this thread title.
This isn't meant as a personal attack on Aaron McCollum because I don't know the guy. These are just my intuitive opinions on the interview. The very first shot of him talking and his body language sent my BS-radar through the roof. He believed most he was saying....but not all of it was accurate as someone else here mentioned. I didn't sense much fear....just a jittery almost neurotic type of energy....but maybe he just had one too many cups of coffee beforehand. lol
After finishing the vid...99% of it was stuff I had already read and researched about...and a majority of that info is here on these forums.
Personally, I think most everything about The Gulf of Aden, Yemen, pirate cover story, is all true. However I believe the whole stargate/atlantis/android thing is a cover story as well...people eat that drivel up...thinking it's so fantastical that it HAS to be true. I don't dismiss the possibility of stargates, atlantis, and cyborgs...but it just sounds all too convenient.
TPTW have a nice believable pirate/terrorist story for the general public.....and a neato stargate/cyborg/atlantis cover story for the more fringe public like those who visit this forum. Pretty brilliant considering both stories kinda say the same thing...Arab terrorists through customs or evil Atlantean cyborgs through a stargate....I mean really what's the difference?
This might be all about Antiquities....I think THAT is what's really going on.
But hey....maybe I'm wrong.
All in all it wasn't a terrible interview...but I really would have liked to hear Aarons "Full interview" first with his personally story and background in detail....then this interview 2nd.
watermunky
01-29-2010, 12:06 AM
Ahhem aahemm. Tobacco stained index finger ? That would indicate chain smoking , or maybe I'm just seeing things.
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
01-29-2010, 12:12 AM
this was a warm up of some sorts , he may come down with the juicy stuff in the next one. he seems pretty genuine. he didnt state anything that isnt already out there. so no one can acuse him of making anything up really.
i await the next installment.:smoke:
Luminari
01-29-2010, 12:13 AM
Jury is still out on this one, but hey if Duncan and Dave say he is cool he must be cool, found these links which might be of no interest or relevance at all
Links re Aaron McCollum
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391740/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3354499/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391740/fullcredits#cast
Anyways, whom am I to speak LOL?
That is very strange Watcher- maybe Kerry can ask him directly about him being an actor (as a petty officer) in a war movie, and see what the story is there.
I mostly enjoyed the interview- Aaron seems like an attention seeker to me, but he is brave, and calling people's focus to an immanent warfront in Yemen is a very admirable thing to do.
Look forward to hearing about his dolphin DNA and project involvement (I think he should have put all his info into ONE interview- albeit a slightly longer one) Is seems quite risky to be offering to NAME a specific general but then put it off to a future date.
I have heard from a mutual friend that he has issues with water (meaning is uncomfortable taking a shower etc) but if you were a dolphin/hybrid wouldn't you feel the total opposite about water?? Looking forward to hearing more.
watermunky
01-29-2010, 12:18 AM
Oh yea... his words. One of my independant sources was excited about Yemen a year or so ago.We were discussing the pole shift and he kept saying it's happening right now. So there has been magnetic anomoly in the area for some time,he said it was interfering with the navigation instruments
It would seem we are all being spoon fed little bits of information.I am as impatient as the next person, but it has accured to me that maybe we couldn't handle the whole truth all at once. peace chaz
Richie
01-29-2010, 12:23 AM
He is a Virgo.His choice in this life and as a Virgo is either to overcome being "selfserving" or to go with it.I try not to be harsh.
i hope to never incarnate as a virgo again.This time around I am an "aquarian".Please everyone try and find out your purpose in this incarnation.
JudgeMental
01-29-2010, 12:35 AM
Truly at a loss of words in regard to most posts here. :rm_stormtrooper:
metaw3
01-29-2010, 12:49 AM
nothing about the content of his story but instead focus on which direction his eyes are looking towards.
I'm glad that PC can give him some visibility/protection as his life seems threatened. I agree with Stargazer1965, THEWATCHER and Chamber about the content.
TraineeHuman
01-29-2010, 01:03 AM
I focussed on listening to McCollum's voice rather than looking at his facial expressions. What I heard was total sincerity at crucial points, particularly regarding the point that yes, there is a genuine stargate there and yes, it's now open. Also regarding the point that there are alien beings coming through, and he doesn't know at all, one way or the other, whether they're quite benevolent or whether they're otherwise.
Sincerity like that overcomes all forms of brainwashing and personality dissociation etc. That's a fact. It's a form of "one-pointedness", as the Zen Buddhists call it. Or call it what you like, but it seemed more genuine to me than many of the other Camelot interviews. I don't care how much BS the military or whoever may have tried to hypnotise McCollum with.
JudgeMental
01-29-2010, 01:19 AM
Right on TraineeHuman. Finally a comment related to the information.
"There is a genuine stargate there and yes, it's now open"
While our vibrations raise all the distraction will become much clearer to us because the vibrations of others will remain low. Be observant. Love is our weapon.
mkspllmn
01-29-2010, 01:19 AM
I really got the feeling that he was trying to tell us about important things that are happening in our world. Yes, I saw the eyes, but it looked more like recall than deception. I thought there was something different about his physique from the beginning. (Never mind that he sort of looks like my brother. lol) Yes, most of what he said can be found on the internet except the Project Ocean...something. He seemed to be genuine and I hope he is. Cant wait for the next.
Then again it could be bunk. If it is, it is still great entertainment! After all, Kerry makes no secrete that she is in the entertainment business.
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
01-29-2010, 01:24 AM
i watched it on you tube and it was OOS so i too listened more than watched
mkspllmn
01-29-2010, 01:37 AM
Hey Carol...
I wanted to express that I feel frustrated by the content...I felt nothing new was brought to the table.
Dont forget that this was only a "teaser" for the "real" interview.
Its all about the show. and the show is really great!
mkspllmn
01-29-2010, 01:50 AM
Personally, I think most everything about The Gulf of Aden, Yemen, pirate cover story, is all true. However I believe the whole stargate/atlantis/android thing is a cover story as well...people eat that drivel up...thinking it's so fantastical that it HAS to be true. I don't dismiss the possibility of stargates, atlantis, and cyborgs...but it just sounds all too convenient.
Yes, its kind of like a screenplay.
Or...are screenplays telling us the truth???
You decide... Next Opra.
mkspllmn
01-29-2010, 02:10 AM
Carol... you are definitely not new to this forum by any means. This sort of thing happens ALL the time, especially when new interviews come out. I'm really surprised that you just noticed this. I don't care for it either, but the minute a new interview is posted, the floodgates open and all these people step forward and do everything they can to discredit these people.
Its part of the new paradigm to "question everything".
hollylindin
01-29-2010, 02:39 AM
I have heard from a mutual friend that he has issues with water (meaning is uncomfortable taking a shower etc) but if you were a dolphin/hybrid wouldn't you feel the total opposite about water??
Probably not if you were used in operations where you had to hurt others or were doing things against your control. I LOVE water, but if I were mind-controlled in a water environment, once being out of it, I'm sure I wouldn't be too comfortable, considering the both blooming and repressed memories attached to it!
I think the next interview will be wonderful, too. I pray that it'll happen soon! Lots of Love to you, Luminari.
<3
DAYDREAMER
01-29-2010, 02:39 AM
Very interesting video. Admittedly the guy looked strange with his eyes going from right to left all the time and I reckon there was another man and also a large dog in the room, judging by the background noise.
One thing is for sure: look on google maps. The area around major sea ports in Yemen at 500m distance zoomed in, you can clearly see the sea water and make out ships very easily. Go more out to sea anywhere in Gulf of Aden and the water is deliberately unclear and even covered up, making it impossible to see any ships. No surprise, as the data is from the us navy and there is something that they are hiding.
The scenario that dozens (I don't know if there are hundreds like some say) of navy ships from lots of countries are in the area and not doing much pirate killing, says to me they are doing something in secret.
I look forward to seeing the full interview with Mr McCollum.
mkspllmn
01-29-2010, 02:48 AM
Very interesting video. Admittedly the guy looked strange with his eyes going from right to left all the time and I reckon there was another man and also a large dog in the room, judging by the background noise.
One thing is for sure: look on google maps. The area around major sea ports in Yemen at 500m distance zoomed in, you can clearly see the sea water and make out ships very easily. Go more out to sea anywhere in Gulf of Aden and the water is deliberately unclear and even covered up, making it impossible to see any ships. No surprise, as the data is from the us navy and there is something that they are hiding.
The scenario that dozens (I don't know if there are hundreds like some say) of navy ships from lots of countries are in the area and not doing much pirate killing, says to me they are doing something in secret.
I look forward to seeing the full interview with Mr McCollum.
I concur with that sense of credibility.
eleni
01-29-2010, 04:30 AM
Hi folks- only read a few of the responses here-
Aaron is a friend of mine, if he is false, why then on New Year's Eve were he and I *attacked* psychotronically? We were on the phone for quite a while- discussing sensitive topics pertaining to himself/myself. Anyhow- a black heli made a beeline for my bedroom- it was fitted with a row (arc shaped) of infra red lights- I had just hung up with Aaron and Dave Corso- I was also on skype with Luminari- anyhow as soon as I saw it I panicked and jumped up to call Aaron- he meanwhile was emailing me because his implant started *pinging* and he wanted to alert me he felt something weird was going to happen- well, it did.
I grabbed a weapon and while the heli circled my house 3 times- I was very shaken up and I started getting what I call the code signals in the implant in my right ear.
Our heads started aching, I was scared they were going to come in and kill me or something but he assured me they would have done so already but the heli was likely fitted with a remote viewing computer - we stayed on the phone until 2 am- then my husband came home (I was home alone) and A and I felt it was safe- but the next 3 days were absolute agony. I stayed in bed with the worst headache I've ever had and had terrible thoughts because of the intensity of the pain. Aaron and Dave were affected.
And then the conference was cancelled (I was a speaker)......I was cut off during a radio interview when I started to talk about a sensitive topic.
There's a lot more to his story- they do in fact manipulate DNA in some of these *balck projects* I learned that years ago and kept silent about it- now that more are coming forward I feel less odd.
eleni
01-29-2010, 04:38 AM
For having such a (what I would call.) negative name like "JudgeMental", you seem VERY open-minded! I appreciate that. :) And I appreciate what you've been saying throughout this thread.
His story resonated with me, and you're right - if one has doubt, one must look no further than to do their own research. I felt his story about Yemen and the Gulf Of Aden was 100% on the level, even amidst his eye ticks and mannerisms and tattoos (though that doesn't matter, really). He had a pure energy, and it seemed to me he WAS controlled at one point, but he feels like a FIGHTER, you know? Somebody who won't back down and never did. This is why I think he's showing what I would say are signs of being manipulated (the eye thing made me think, "Reptillian", but considering how I feel about him, I would say POSITIVE Reptillian.) but still feels on the level. Anyway, those are just my thoughts. Thank you for yours!
<3
He's far from reptilian- quite the opposite actually:original:
Actually- I felt the camera distorted what he looks like in real life- his eyes look brown in the interview for example.
3optic
01-29-2010, 05:44 AM
I'm going to stick it out there and say The interview seemed to me to be sincere. All the "body language" people refer to does not strike me as duplicitous. I see nervousness, intensity and a queer tick. None of this struck me as "a tell". It's curious to me that so many that seem familiar with PC interviews and this forum see fit to cast this material in such dubious light. It may be indeed more helpful to listen closely to his words and not track his movements if one is not trained at lie detection. I'm sorry if I seem confrontational but this thread and the comments seem to have struck a chord in me. Welcome to the world of PC forums, eh? :tears:
JudgeMental
01-29-2010, 06:08 AM
Thanks eleni. I was feeling lonely trying to back up his words. I am glad Aaron has friends he can chill out with. And am sure he is reading this thread. There are some people out there that care Aaron. I being one.
TraineeHuman
01-29-2010, 06:22 AM
In my above post (about 10 posts back) I said McCollum looked totally sincere. Although it isn't possible for a person to lie when they're totally sincere, they may nevertheless still be deluded.
As I have a professional background of psychologicallly assessing people, it so happens I'm quite certain he isn't self-deluded. In other words, although it's true that psychotic/insane people can't tell the difference between some of their fantasies and reality, my experience tells me pretty conclusively that in this case what he's describing isn't fantasy. Which means it's absolutely real -- because of his sincerity, and because he's been involved first-hand.
Is he deluded about it really being a stargate? Well, does that really matter? TPTB feel their grip on power is so challenged that their factional squabbles have been put aside, in their warship exercise, in the face of what they evidently perceive as a greater threat. So then surely that location is somehow the entry point or base for some ETs who are arriving here, isn't it? Or if it isn't, what's an alternative plausible explanation that most of us at PA/PC could believe?
orthodoxymoron
01-29-2010, 06:37 AM
Combining the Stargate SG-1 series with the Courtney Brown e-books might be a rough approximation of at least some of the realities present in this Galaxy. Here is a Stargate SG-1 episode which is relevant to this thread: http://www.hulu.com/watch/62963/stargate-sg-1-fire-and-water Asking questions should not be a problem...especially in Avaland...but ask them nicely. Perhaps the open stargate is being used in connection with a Solar System Exorcism. Perhaps Gaia is taking out the trash! Something is a brewing! Hmmmmmmm
:original:Namaste:original:
Carol
01-29-2010, 06:47 AM
Its part of the new paradigm to "question everything".
I knew this interview was going to be posted before it aired and have some info on what is going on behind the scenes, which is not yet available to other members here. My questions reach further out with respect to "What the hell is going on in that area that would require war ships from nations around the planet?" Furthermore, there were others who were also publically sharing this info ~ which was made public before Arron's interview... however, if I recall correctly, Arron's interview was recorded before this other info came out. That made him more credible in my eyes.
And yes, when I first heard about this I had a lot of questions which were answered for the most part before I posted anything. Aaron's testimony was also verified by someone I personally know and by others. I'm still unclear why Sea Gate is so dangerous and want to understand this more.
And on a side note... these days I feel as if I'm living in different worlds simultaneously. That which is full of lies pushed on the general public by the mass media and shadow government... and that which is full of truth from those who are living in the most bizaar circumstances one could ever possibly imagine.
es7ter
01-29-2010, 07:30 AM
I am with you guys with all respect. He looks sincere. I listened and watched. And with the ink business...you know, if I was part of some dirty business (excuse my French) special military operation and as some of the others said as well, that they have nothing on them, not even the dog tags on some occasions... well think about it... I would get all the wicked ink on my body, so anyone can recognise me even if I was in my birthday suit...and I am making an assumption here, but the military can’t use you if you have all those markings that make you stand out and make you recognisable. I could be wrong here, but that’s just my feeling about it.
He mentioned that 22 pages of that specific document are in his possession and that Kerry has seen it also. I would just give more credit to her, that to think, that she would risk Camelot’s reputation and her own life for nothing.
I am very much looking forward to see the story evolve and get some more info from him.
Just one more thing... people who encourage us to do our research and cross reference are usually the ones telling the truth in compression to those who are overpowering and controlling.
no caste
01-29-2010, 07:54 AM
Besides claiming that I was in the military.....I could have gave this interview.
Really? Good for you.
Karen
01-29-2010, 08:03 AM
When I logged in this morning...splashed across the screen was a link for this new interview.
Hey you like that? That's been part of my plans for Avalon for a long time. I finally got the access, the training, a little practice, and the time - I went to Project Camelot looking for the latest update to present to the forum members and it was this one. It could have been any other.
I thought it would be a nice feature when something new is posted on Project Camelot, to let the forum members know - as the new material comes in rather sporadically. Just when I get tired of checking every day - something new is posted.
The way it all worked out - I thought - hey, great one to start my new project with.
:lol3:
Debby
01-29-2010, 08:29 AM
Here is a man risking his life giving us information. Can you imagine what he has been going through and here we are judging. He is doing this to get it out in the world, for humanity.
In his next intervieuw he will reveal more and explain the theory about his eye movement. He has a lot more to say , we will have to wait for the next part for about a month.
I am thankful that he is giving us information and wish him all the best.
no caste
01-29-2010, 08:34 AM
Well, I liked this guy. I'm actually really grateful that he's being interviewed in more depth - and hope it goes well with the (neural lol) networking. I checked out the links that Watcher posted - and that film looked like an interesting project (below). I suppose the whole Stargate thingy is of interest, but to me I was more concerned about the *eff-ups* who drown him when he was 3 years old. I also appreciated the info about Pasadena (e.g. Parsons). It would be the company whose getting billions to rebuild Iraq, while the USA is languishing, so happy taxpayer day.
Bomb and rebuild: 'The privately-owned engineering and construction company said the latest deal includes the restoration and construction of bases for the Iraqi security forces, police stations, border control stations, fire stations, courthouses and prisons... [A leading international engineering and construction company, Parsons is well acquainted with mega-projects in foreign lands. It has built airports, bridges, tunnels and dams in the Middle East, China and elsewhere.]
Iraq had infrastructure before war 90-91 and 03-present. A multilateral approach back in the day could've helped a lot - but NO, ... next thing you know Kelly is dead (British weapons inspector Dr. David Kelly was writing an expose about his work with anthrax and his warnings that Iraq possessed no weapons of mass destruction at the time of his death in July 2003, according to a report published in a British newspaper), Somali pirates are running amok, Yemen is a 'raging' ... it's a ridiculous, limping farce. The Yemen 'terrorists' - what a dud !!
Last time I wished for a whirlpool to suck up the Gulf of Aden flotilla, there was an earthquake. Now I'm superstitious about wishing for it again. The a**holes might want to figure out another patch of real estate to develop.
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V E T E R A N S
2008 17’ EMPAC DANCE MOVIES Commission 2007
S Y N O P S I S :
The film VETERANS tracks five US Vets recovering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, as they make their way through the streets of Los Angeles. Locked in solitary battles of isolation, dislocation and memory, these Vets converge in a quiet alley and find themselves joining in a ritual re-enactment of combat before returning to their separate lives.
Margaret Williams and Victoria Marks, known for their moving and visually compelling dance film collaborations, (including OUTSIDE IN, MOTHERS AND DAUGHTERS and MEN) are re-united through EMPAC, for the first time in 11 years. In the film "Veterans", Marks and Williams worked with Vets to translate their imaginary and real experiences into a visual and kinetic story of longing and displacement. The performers met Marks and Williams while involved in a Combat Rehab/Post Traumatic Stress Disorder program at the VA Hospital in West Los Angeles.
http://www.mjwproductions.com/Dance/veterans.html
Firstlook
01-29-2010, 08:47 AM
Some coffee and a smoke or two and this looks like a good interview for my attention. Thanks PC and Mr. McCollum for doing this. I will be back to share my thoughts and more appreciation.
peace:original:
Dougall
01-29-2010, 09:19 AM
I will be interested to see if Duncan vouches for Aaron. They seem to be very different in their motivation for telling what they know.
I missed the radio show yesterday however i will listen to the archives when it becomes available. It seems pretty likely that the subject of Aaron McCollum will come up when Kerry interviews O'Finioan.
I will say that it does not strike me Aaron lends credibility to the Super Soldier scenario. He seems to be interested in subsequent interviews, emphasizing his position and contacts are high up in the food chain.
Duncan strikes me as a man who indeed may have been trained or programed to do some dirt for the Government. He wants to get his story out and get some answers, but survival is his priority.
Perception is everything.
Stargazer1965
01-29-2010, 11:51 AM
Hi folks- only read a few of the responses here-
Aaron is a friend of mine, if he is false, why then on New Year's Eve were he and I *attacked* psychotronically? We were on the phone for quite a while- discussing sensitive topics pertaining to himself/myself. Anyhow- a black heli made a beeline for my bedroom- it was fitted with a row (arc shaped) of infra red lights- I had just hung up with Aaron and Dave Corso- I was also on skype with Luminari- anyhow as soon as I saw it I panicked and jumped up to call Aaron- he meanwhile was emailing me because his implant started *pinging* and he wanted to alert me he felt something weird was going to happen- well, it did.
I grabbed a weapon and while the heli circled my house 3 times- I was very shaken up and I started getting what I call the code signals in the implant in my right ear.
Our heads started aching, I was scared they were going to come in and kill me or something but he assured me they would have done so already but the heli was likely fitted with a remote viewing computer - we stayed on the phone until 2 am- then my husband came home (I was home alone) and A and I felt it was safe- but the next 3 days were absolute agony. I stayed in bed with the worst headache I've ever had and had terrible thoughts because of the intensity of the pain. Aaron and Dave were affected.
And then the conference was cancelled (I was a speaker)......I was cut off during a radio interview when I started to talk about a sensitive topic.
There's a lot more to his story- they do in fact manipulate DNA in some of these *balck projects* I learned that years ago and kept silent about it- now that more are coming forward I feel less odd.
Eleni....sorry for the fear you experienced....really
I wanted to concentrate on the info provided....which really did not bring anything new for me....but we all know it's not really about ME.
I in no way think Aaron was trying to deceive anyone.....I'll keep an open mind and watch the second interview.
As I have said many times...MY reality extends about three feet out from me...Past that...I assume to know NOTHING
Peace Y'all
Stargazer1965
01-29-2010, 12:04 PM
Hey you like that? That's been part of my plans for Avalon for a long time. I finally got the access, the training, a little practice, and the time - I went to Project Camelot looking for the latest update to present to the forum members and it was this one. It could have been any other.
I thought it would be a nice feature when something new is posted on Project Camelot, to let the forum members know - as the new material comes in rather sporadically. Just when I get tired of checking every day - something new is posted.
The way it all worked out - I thought - hey, great one to start my new project with.
:lol3:
Yes...I noticed it right off....GREAT JOB!!!
Firedrake
01-29-2010, 12:08 PM
Jury is still out on this one, but hey if Duncan and Dave say he is cool he must be cool, found these links which might be of no interest or relevance at all
Links re Aaron McCollum
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391740/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3354499/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391740/fullcredits#cast
Anyways, whom am I to speak LOL?
Completely agree.
I just watched this and thought I'd share how I felt about it since many on here are unsure whether it is their B.S. meter going off or their inner knowingness being sparked.
When I first started watching how Aaron talked and communicated, being able to feel 'where' he is coming from, and seeing how he wasnt afraid to tell his truth; and let people know they still need to do their research, that for me let me know how open his heart is and how sincere he is in what he is doing.
It is one thing to write words and be able to hide behind them and/or a nickname or guise, it is another when you bare your face for those who know how to listen and see witness who you are and what you have experienced. Words can take the mind to wherever you can imagine, but feeling the vibration and frequency of another, feeling where they are coming from in what they have experienced is really how we 'judge' or 'decide' what and if we want to believe in their words. It just depends on how aware you are of what is really taking place when you are 'listening'.
Thank you Aaron for letting me experience and connect with you. As you are finding out, we are awakening by the thousands on many different levels. There are so many incredible humans here experiencing a beautiful and glorious awakening/re-birthing/blossoming, an awakening that is tailor made for them as they create and wish to experience it.
Ride the wave as you see fit, and if you can allow yourself to, enjoy it! :trumpet: You are IT. You designed yourself to have this experience in this body. :surfing: :thumb_yello:
-Love and Light-
DOMINIC 777
01-29-2010, 12:12 PM
In my above post (about 10 posts back) I said McCollum looked totally sincere. Although it isn't possible for a person to lie when they're totally sincere, they may nevertheless still be deluded.
As I have a professional background of psychologicallly assessing people, it so happens I'm quite certain he isn't self-deluded. In other words, although it's true that psychotic/insane people can't tell the difference between some of their fantasies and reality, my experience tells me pretty conclusively that in this case what he's describing isn't fantasy. Which means it's absolutely real -- because of his sincerity, and because he's been involved first-hand.
Is he deluded about it really being a stargate? Well, does that really matter? TPTB feel their grip on power is so challenged that their factional squabbles have been put aside, in their warship exercise, in the face of what they evidently perceive as a greater threat. So then surely that location is somehow the entry point or base for some ETs who are arriving here, isn't it? Or if it isn't, what's an alternative plausible explanation that most of us at PA/PC could believe?
The notion that these super-soldiers could be hybrid , more intuitive , stronger ,indoctrinated, have super qualities and eye movement...the question arises what have they been crossed with...pos or ne g E.T....Or a dolphin or some other animal... therefore through all their suffering and indoctrination ...the soul has the ability to discern between good and evil and these guys have come up on the good side...how can we discern a Hybrid?
lol
dominic
Firstlook
01-29-2010, 01:29 PM
I finished watching Aaron's introduction interview. Wow. I like to say that the information he is presenting is deep and requires time and effort to asses. I find his presence honest. He is youthful.:original: Good thing, considering his past.
Good pace of explanation. Looking forward to part 2. The man. lol.
seriously though, definitely worth the interview time. Good deduction PC.
peace:original:
Harper
01-29-2010, 01:37 PM
I have not been able to see the film yet -- work... but I have read this thread and the first thing that jumped into my mind was that really really weird story from last year that seemed to have drifted by everyone unnoticed. This is from CNN, sorry, but it was all over the written press too.
http://www.fra.cityvox.fr/restaurants_neuilly-sur-seine/chez-livio_77885/Profil-Lieu
It was the oddest thing I have ever heard, how in gods name could the world (namely American technology) loose an entire ship when they maintain they can read the ingredients on a gum wrapper thrown on the sidewalk from SPACE with sateliite technology. I live with a hardnosed grumpy journalist whose jaw was on the ground for a week. But no one else we spoke to seemed to bat an eyelid. Its the geographical location that is of interest to the Gulf of Aden
I would love to talk more once I have seen the interview. Also there is no reason not to think the gate opened naturally, we don't know much about what might be natural in our outer universe, or the larger cycles in time that may cause such activity.
take care everyone
Kulapops
01-29-2010, 01:46 PM
Well, I've just finished watching the interview.
I'd like to say that yesterday, for some reason, I only started reading the thread from page 2, Tone3Jaguar's post. So I had no idea of the previous posts about Aaron's qualities. I had just seen Stargazers one post in page 2against the flow (having no idea you were the originator!) , and your one post against that Judgemental...
Now I see from the beginning, I understand better where you are all coming from.
lol... see even from this, how easy it is to get the wrong idea about 'facts'?
That said, I would have thought that the topic of this thread is 'I could have done the interview'... and people could write pro or con as to whether they would be able to give an interview as interesting, or providing of information that your average Avalonian would not be aware.
From what I've seen, there are some members here with colossal amounts of information on various topics, and I'm sure they could give very interesting and accurate interviews that would blow us away.
So I think the point is a good one for discussion.
For me, it's not about whether Aaron is credible or not, or about a disection of his character or appearance, but that there are many here who are already awake and party to huge amounts of info. They may genuinely feel they could give as interesting an interview as anyone else.
Aaron himself said that his information about Yemen and the stargate were already available on youtube. So it's not surprising people already know of these things.
I in no way discredit this guy or his story. Or anyone for that matter. Personally, I don't think I'm as interested in whistleblowers as I was a year ago. But that's just me.
K
Harper
01-29-2010, 01:53 PM
Oh thats just fantastic, I sent you all a link to a restaurant, just as well I wasn't thinking of in grown toe-nails or worse, hehehehe
So here it is
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/08/17/russia.ship.found/index.html
Stargazer1965
01-29-2010, 02:09 PM
Oh thats just fantastic, I sent you all a link to a restaurant, just as well I wasn't thinking of in grown toe-nails or worse, hehehehe
So here it is
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/08/17/russia.ship.found/index.html
And in Spanish......:naughty:
Harper
01-29-2010, 02:11 PM
Now I have the total giggles, French actually -- apparently its great !! :roll1:
eleni
01-29-2010, 03:04 PM
I knew this interview was going to be posted before it aired and have some info on what is going on behind the scenes, which is not yet available to other members here. My questions reach further out with respect to "What the hell is going on in that area that would require war ships from nations around the planet?" Furthermore, there were others who were also publically sharing this info ~ which was made public before Arron's interview... however, if I recall correctly, Arron's interview was recorded before this other info came out. That made him more credible in my eyes.
And yes, when I first heard about this I had a lot of questions which were answered for the most part before I posted anything. Aaron's testimony was also verified by someone I personally know and by others. I'm still unclear why Sea Gate is so dangerous and want to understand this more.
And on a side note... these days I feel as if I'm living in different worlds simultaneously. That which is full of lies pushed on the general public by the mass media and shadow government... and that which is full of truth from those who are living in the most bizaar circumstances one could ever possibly imagine.
Ditto and I'm trying to recall whether it was recorded on Jan. 3 or so......
I think I remember that. Can ask him though.
Astra
01-29-2010, 04:09 PM
I watched this interview and can't wait to see the next one. There was something in Aaron’s eyes at the very end ... something so honest, so warm, so fragile ... while at the same time he appeared to be determined to go to the very bottom of this thing. I feel for this man, as well as for all who went through these horrific experiences in their lives. Be well, and be safe!
Now, I have to mention something regarding Yemen and Stargate ... I've never been to that part of the world, and I don't know if I will ever go there in this lifetime. But, whenever I see pictures from Yemen, I feel my heart pounding, tears coming down, I can't breathe ... it is very hard to explain, but it is as if I've been there, like there is a "family" somewhere ... I can literally smell the place, the colors, the air ... very, very strange ... I don’t know if this is a past life memory, or it has something to do with this Stargate. Maybe someone will have an explanation ... Sorry for digression, I really did not want to hijack this thread, but needed to let this out ... Love you all!
in L:wub2:ve and Light
Astra
NancyV
01-29-2010, 05:46 PM
I loved Aaron! Kerry did a great job with his interview. Aaron's energy was definitely the focused, powerful energy of a military man and/or black ops agent. He also has a wonderful smile and I'm sure a good sense of humor. Unlike my husband, who was also black ops, Aaron feels like making amends for some of the things he was involved in. That's fine, but whatever he has done is done and neither forgiveness nor amends are needed. He did what he was called upon to do. He made his choices and there is no point in regretting them. What he did was done for a very good reason which may become more clear to him as time goes on. The more he can let go of any possible guilt or regret, the more powerful and effective he will be in his future work. I am happy that he is sharing with us, though, as it's a fascinating story and I enjoy him.
The tattoos are great. Looks like he has K E E L on the fingers of one hand and H U L L on the fingers of the other hand. I could be mistaken but that's what it looked like to me. Many former black ops guys get tattoos when they are no longer forbidden to do so. After years of my husband not being able to have any discernible unique markings on his body he got tattoos when he finally stopped his involvement with his employers. Now, at 55 yrs old, he is about to get 6 more tattoos. If you don't like tattoos, that's fine, but others like them and it's not our business to control others lives and choices.
I don't care if Aaron's information is totally accurate or not. I never believe or disbelieve anyone totally. Beliefs are traps and can limit your ability to respond quickly to a constantly changing reality. I prefer to remaining open to any number of possibilities. He seems sincere and I like him very much. Looking forward to more exciting stories about Aaron's life! I'm here to enjoy everything to the fullest extent possible. Even the so called negative has much to teach us, so it can also be "enjoyed".
Thanks for another exciting interview, Project Camelot! Very informative and great entertainment!
Nancy
Zeddo
01-29-2010, 06:19 PM
coulda ...woulda.... shoulda
but hey
you didn't,
now did you
5thElement
01-29-2010, 06:27 PM
Was able to watch the entire video last night. Mr. McCollum's testimony reinforced information as well as giving us all another glimpse into black ops programing. I admire his bravery in coming forward in such a public way with his experiences.
I hope I was not one of the people that was perceived to be discrediting him.. my questions regarding his unusual eye movements were not meant to detract from his credibility. If anything - such physical signs could lend creadance to his claim. Since I am still an "unknown" I can understand the reservations.
El
Shaynard
01-29-2010, 06:35 PM
It was late last night, but I watched the interview. I personally have a lot of trust in Kerry's BS meter, so when she's giving us an interview I start in a place of trust, then imply my own discernment.
The end result this time. I very much believe he believes what he's saying. the eye movement and throat clearing actually provide some sort of "proof" to me as I understand them as side effects of certain internal struggles.
A few things he said I do know to be "true"and it seems he and I have shared some similar experiences.
Kerry's questioning ,as always, was bang on..
I enjoyed his reminders to not be in fear of what he's saying, but rather to research it and add it to our knowledge instead.. Very well said IMO and I'm happy to hear it said when people are relating stories that can cause fear.
Until I see part two, I don't have a whole lot to say, as much of this info did make it to us all before the interview was posted.. Looking forward to more from Aaron, and I will be sending him my love and respect.
FWIW, I do understand why this thread is titled as it is. yet I do not find it to be "out of line" in anyway.. It's good to share opinions and points of view. :)
In light, of love
Shaynard
no caste
01-29-2010, 08:45 PM
One thing that is bothering me (a lot) about this video is McCollum's recounting of induced drowning. My guess is, re his 'We have one' comment by the drown-ers, well, there are likely hundreds who didn't come back up.
This whole specialness, giftedness, talent justificationness is pure BS. It's torture. Rationalize it any way you want. I can't.
Splitting personalities takes a lot of terror. Life and death, as he says.
Stargazer1965
01-29-2010, 09:34 PM
coulda ...woulda.... shoulda
but hey
you didn't,
now did you
Been there
Done that
Got the T Shirt
Peace Y'all
Stargazer1965
01-29-2010, 09:43 PM
Well...least I got the group talking again......:original:
deb003
01-29-2010, 10:29 PM
One thing that is bothering me (a lot) about this video is McCollum's recounting of induced drowning. My guess is, re his 'We have one' comment by the drown-ers, well, there are likely hundreds who didn't come back up.
This whole specialness, giftedness, talent justificationness is pure BS. It's torture. Rationalize it any way you want. I can't.
Splitting personalities takes a lot of terror. Life and death, as he says.
Even though I enjoyed the interview, I was also deeply disturbed when Aaron spoke are the torture he went through.
I could sense there was pain inside of him. A sort of vulnerability that you see allot in traumatized people, and I knew at some point I would feel disturbed when he speak about his "conditioing". Basically, the pain and torture he went through in order to get to where they wanted him to get.
so I totally felt the same way.
THEWATCHER
01-29-2010, 10:39 PM
The programming, the treaments, the conditioning, you do get used to, it takes time, I'm almost 58 now, I know what you have to go thru. That side of things I can sympathise with.
TraineeHuman
01-29-2010, 10:59 PM
The fact that Eleni and Aaron have been treated in the very nasty way they have suggests to me that it almost certainly is an open stargate. It'll be great to hear more from Aaron himself and also from the other members with behind the scenes knowledge. Other possibilities that occur to me, though, even if they seem less likely, might include:
1. It’s a special kind of energy vortex that somehow disables the detection system (or HAARP) used by the U.S. and other countries to detect and shoot down UFOs. – This would explain why numbers of ETs were seen apparently arriving there.
2. It’s a special kind of energy vortex that reveals or somehow facilitates easier access to free energy. – Then the ETs seen there might just have been monitoring it, to assess its potential political implications for the planet. Maybe there are several different ET groups – maybe they could even be kind of “neutral” rather than “hostile” or “benevolent”?
3. According to some sources such as Richard Boylan, the gigantic spaceships currently in the sun’s corona belong to the Doustigneo ET people (who look very dark and smoothly vibrating and quite transparent), probably working in collaboration with a number of other ET races also on the ships, which look beautifully crystalline on the inside. They are there near the sun basically to fix the sun’s radiation, to ensure things such as solar EMPs won’t occur. If the sun has been getting fixed, that could well have caused a little reciprocal healing to occur in Gaia. As a result, Gaia has perhaps created or opened this special energy vortex, and maybe that vortex defies being manipulated by weather control technologies, plus it does something else such as 1. or 2. or whatever. For instance, maybe at the vortex there’s abnormal ease of access to 4D.
And if it definitely is a stargate, could that mean that the quarantine on the planet is being lifted? (And what, if anything, are the intergalactic councils doing regarding this?) If yes, then is humanity not being invited now to travel out from the planet and visit certain worlds? And what does anybody know for sure regarding who/what the gatekeepers are for stargates, or how they work?
THEWATCHER
01-29-2010, 11:33 PM
eleni and aaron have not been treated in a very nasty way, in fact no directed negatives have been aimed their way, if you wish to see nasty, see how I was treated some months ago on my sub forum. Now THAT was nasty.
eleni
01-29-2010, 11:57 PM
eleni and aaron have not been treated in a very nasty way, in fact no directed negatives have been aimed their way, if you wish to see nasty, see how I was treated some months ago on my sub forum. Now THAT was nasty.
Watcher- above I think was pertaining to the black heli incident on New Year's Eve- it is a fact that some type of psychotronic attack took place.. I could not move my head for 3 entire days- it was pretty awful.
Aaron and I had been on the phone for several hours that evening discussing numerous material though- it wasn't just Project Seagate etc;
And Duncan and another person had also been targeted. Clearly something was setting off their meters.
BTW- I was not involved with Project Seagate.
I was however transported via some light mechanism on August 22nd of 2009 and subjected (along with a few others in the room in an underground base to a HUGE magnetic distortion. I was not sure I would survive that (atom wise) and at the time I was there I was afraid I would retain no memory etc; this is before I read these magnetics anomolies can wipe out memory.
Both Aaron and I described the same base setup/scenario though- in the base I was in there were ET's and humans/military.
THEWATCHER
01-30-2010, 12:02 AM
Watcher- above I think was pertaining to the black heli incident on New Year's Eve- it is a fact that some type of psychotronic attack took place.. I could not move my head for 3 entire days- it was pretty awful.
A few days later one of the other speakers was also threatened (Colin Ross) and won't even talk about it.
Aaron and I had been on the phone for several hours that evening discussing numerous material though- it wasn't just Project Seagate etc;
And Duncan and another person had also been targeted. Clearly something was setting off their meters.
BTW- I was not involved with Project Seagate.
I was however transported via some light mechanism on August 22nd of 2009 and subjected (along with a few others in the room in an underground base to a HUGE magnetic distortion. I was not sure I would survive that (atom wise) and at the time I was there I was afraid I would retain no memory etc; this is before I read these magnetics anomolies can wipe out memory.
Both Aaron and I described the same base setup/scenario though- in the base I was in there were ET's and humans/military.
OK, not easy on these boards to see where the original intent was made or asserted. I understand what you are saying and I have actually looked into certain issues you raised earlier re this targetting. Everyone whom steps up to the plate will always receive fair critiscism and skepticism, I certainly did so its no slur on Aaron when posters here ask questions or are dubious of claims made, especially when much of the data is so freely available already, much of it on this very site. I know from experience how memories can be distorted, manipulated, erased and replaced. I've been in this business over 30 years.
Firstlook
01-30-2010, 12:11 AM
I know from experience how memories can be distorted, manipulated, erased and replaced. I've been in this business over 30 years.
It sounds like you have an opinion on this interview. Could you share your assesment?:original:
Thanks
peace:original:
THEWATCHER
01-30-2010, 12:18 AM
It sounds like you have an opinion on this interview. Could you share your assesment?:original:
Thanks
peace:original:
Naturally I have an opinion, but like everyone else I have to base most of that on what I see and hear, re the Individual, based on what I know/have experienced
Firstlook
01-30-2010, 12:26 AM
Naturally I have an opinion, but like everyone else I have to base most of that on what I see and hear, re the Individual, based on what I know/have experienced
Fair enough. I just figured that you could offer a perspective that others are without.
Im in no rush for answers either.:zip::wink2:
peace:original:
THEWATCHER
01-30-2010, 12:30 AM
Fair enough. I just figured that you could offer a perspective that others are without.
Im in no rush for answers either.:zip::wink2:
peace:original:
Even though its not my place to comment on others coming forward, I'll try and give an honest appraisal shortly
Firstlook
01-30-2010, 12:37 AM
Even though its not my place to comment on others coming forward, I'll try and give an honest appraisal shortly
haha sweet. I knew I could woo you.:trumpet:
Thankyou.:original:
Stargazer1965
01-30-2010, 01:32 AM
You know I did not name this thread correctly.....but Its breathing well on it's own....Peace
Chamber
01-30-2010, 02:04 AM
You know I did not name this thread correctly.....but Its breathing well on it's own....Peace
It was a thought you had....you expressed it...therefore the thread IS accurately titled.
I would like to point out that there is a huge difference between questioning the legitimacy of a whistleblower...and questioning the validity and accuracy of what they're claiming in the interview.
A lie that one believes to be true and volunteers the info...does not make one a liar.
Also...a threat, attack, surveillance etc does not automatically validate what they are claiming.
So do not confuse the critique of the information being presented as a critique of the individual presenting the information.
Personally, I think Kerry gets too involved with the information being presented and is somewhat emotionally attached to what is being said...both when it confirms her beliefs and when it conflicts with her beliefs. A good interviewer....someone allowing another to really present their own facts and opinions...asks questions from a non-dualistic perspective.
If I could make a single suggestion on any and all future interviews....it would be to ask the whistleblower this question...
Why should anyone watching believe what you are saying?
The answer to that...or more specifically the reaction to that question would speak volumes about the person being asked.
eleni
01-30-2010, 03:12 AM
OK, not easy on these boards to see where the original intent was made or asserted. I understand what you are saying and I have actually looked into certain issues you raised earlier re this targetting. Everyone whom steps up to the plate will always receive fair critiscism and skepticism, I certainly did so its no slur on Aaron when posters here ask questions or are dubious of claims made, especially when much of the data is so freely available already, much of it on this very site. I know from experience how memories can be distorted, manipulated, erased and replaced. I've been in this business over 30 years.
Yup agree completely and one should question witness testimony- I was just informing that something did indeed occur on Dec. 31st.
Barry, do you know of any helicop fitted with infra red lights? They were on the side (I only saw one side and jumped out of bed to call Aaron and I hid for several hours) but I heard it fly over the house a few times after the first sighting.
eleni
01-30-2010, 03:22 AM
Also...a threat, attack, surveillance etc does not automatically validate what they are claiming.
So do not confuse the critique of the information being presented as a critique of the individual presenting the information.
Personally, I think Kerry gets too involved with the information being presented and is somewhat emotionally attached to what is being said...both when it confirms her beliefs and when it conflicts with her beliefs. A good interviewer....someone allowing another to really present their own facts and opinions...asks questions from a non-dualistic perspective.
If I could make a single suggestion on any and all future interviews....it would be to ask the whistleblower this question...
Why should anyone watching believe what you are saying?
The answer to that...or more specifically the reaction to that question would speak volumes about the person being asked.
I completely agree with what was stated above.
I mentioned the *attack* because something was said that set off their meter obviously. What it was, I do not know since a variety of topics were being discussed and it may not have had anything to do with Aaron either.
It could have been me or maybe it really was something Aaron spoke about or it could have been a target *atack* to warn MKULTRA conference speakers.
For some bizarre reason the MK program is something that sets off their meters. When Duncan did the Other World Radio interview with Sandra Sabatini black helis flew over her place during the show.
They don't want sleepers waking up and when they do wake up and come forward they use scare tactics.
swordsmith
01-30-2010, 09:49 AM
eleni, it is hard to imagine what you have been through, and still are. I am very glad you are friends with Aaron. I take some comfort in your support of each other and hope more will be able to come forward seeing your courage.
The Mk Ultra program and its many offshoots is so utterly abhorrant to me, I have nothing but respect for the survivors, especially the vocal ones.
I guess it is fashionable to bash the interviewees nowadays, sort of a swing from when peeps hung on every word. My god, the eye movements from Aaron looked to me like a stress reaction, and who wouldnt be? I have a very good BS meter, and it never went off once, looking forward to part 2.
On a side note I also experienced great mental/physical distress January 5th when he mentioned a magnetic event had taken place. I had not heard or seen any other reference of this.
Being vocal about these heinous crimes is the only way to go. bless you
rhythm
01-30-2010, 10:50 AM
wow i cant help wonder where were goin
with this one ... me keeping an eye open here
eny one else finding there intuit comming
very intense ... also getting lots of confimation
and getting a greater feeling of telepathy
of your own ....
words starting to scrammple ... need lots of focus ..
peace and patience to you friends .. love allways rhytmmm ...
Waking.Up
01-30-2010, 12:00 PM
I'm interested where tone3jaguar and his remote viewing abillity are?
aroundthetable
01-30-2010, 12:58 PM
Would love to see him front a rock band :original: Although i think there is already a band called flipper :lmao:
JOOOOOKE!
Keep on rockin Aaron :thumb_yello:
nameless
01-30-2010, 01:19 PM
this maybe some help for those of you reading eye patterns;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0aqkDkNeqw&feature=PlayList&p=E95A1B186FC2ECEC&index=85
SteveX
01-31-2010, 01:36 AM
I had to step away from my computer for a moment when I was reading this thread. I literally felt like reaching out and http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-computer001.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) some of the posters with reference to eye lids,reptillian etc. Computers, diddgy cams and Internet speeds don’t mix very well. Frames per second and Internet lag… speed up and slow down. It’s not crisp viewing.
That said there was a gentleman to the left of McCullum. You see his forearm at least twice. There was also a big **** dog (big jowls like a Rottweiler, Bullmastiff or Bull Dog) OFF right of camera… front left toMcCullum. It was drinking water.
Now that I’ve cleared that up I didn’t buy a word of it. The guys body language wasn’t right :mfr_omg:and the amount of times he kept on about the NEXT vid smacked of, well frankly, attention grabbing. 15 minutes of fame. I put him in the same boat as Ofinioan. His body language wasn’t correct either.
My intuition and basic body language reading skills (as a former car salesman http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger004.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Fredkc) rarely let me down.
EDIT proloned stairing after a statement and eyes looking up right (if right handed) are signs of fabrications.
Double Edit As I've read further there's some right punters on this site I'd liked to sold cars to.
eleni
01-31-2010, 03:41 AM
What frustrates me is that in most of PC (and other sites) interviews/testimonies is all we have is their words. There is no absolute proof.
I question what I went through myself and am not afraid to look at it via objective lenses- I have to.
JudgeMental
01-31-2010, 05:45 AM
Well I am still with the program. Kinda pisses me off how many people posted complete garbage and completely non related posts. This happens in many threads that have important information that "they" don't want you to know. The Klaus Dona Interview thread would be a perfect example of differences.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19672
Notice how smooth the Dona thread goes. No one trying to discredit him or go on about his personal presence or other distractions. When threads like this one with McCollum get spammed with garbage posts. Ask yourself why people would do that. Also taking notes on who they are really helps whipping through all threads and plucking facts. Please use the Klaus Dona thread as an example of what a thread about ET's should look like without agents all over it.
metaw3
01-31-2010, 06:05 AM
What frustrates me is that in most of PC (and other sites) interviews/testimonies is all we have is their words. There is no absolute proof.
Could not agree more. Although as a whistleblower I'm not sure I would feel comfortable coming out with absolute proof. That might not be the safest thing to do.
Chamber
01-31-2010, 07:36 AM
Well I am still with the program.
Stick with the "Program"....if that's where you feel the most comfortable.
:thumb_yello:
Kinda pisses me off how many people posted complete garbage and completely non related posts. This happens in many threads that have important information that "they" don't want you to know. The Klaus Dona Interview thread would be a perfect example of differences.
So it is a foregone conclusion that all interviewees of PC are beyond further questioning?
Why would complete non related garbage 'pi$s you off'? There's no use in you being angry when something is beyond the realm of your comprehension.
Notice how smooth the Dona thread goes. No one trying to discredit him or go on about his personal presence or other distractions. When threads like this one with McCollum get spammed with garbage posts. Ask yourself why people would do that. Also taking notes on who they are really helps whipping through all threads and plucking facts. Please use the Klaus Dona thread as an example of what a thread about ET's should look like without agents all over it.
Excellent. Why don't you post a list of guidelines for what types of interview critiques you find acceptable and unacceptable and the rest of us will follow suit. We wouldn't want to upset anyone now would we?
Oh and by the way.....you are correct....anyone who does not agree with you and what you believe is indeed an "Agent"
http://livingromcom.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/agent_smith_poses04.jpg
:lmfao:
burgundia
01-31-2010, 07:58 AM
Without analyzing, relying only on my gut feeling ( I maybe wrong) but to me that guy is genuine....in the sense that he believes what he is saying...
swordsmith
01-31-2010, 12:19 PM
Here is what I don't understand, people who come to camelot/avalon most likely have some knowledge of the MK Ultra programmes: manchurian candidates, sex slaves like Cathy O'brien,( who actually had a court case ), super soldiers etc. not to mention the genetic manipulation/ hybridizing etc....,
Ok, so IF you believe this stuff exists and you have REALLY studied it, (and it IS harrowing so I can see why people wouldn't ) then it stands to reason there must be quite a number of these people out there and also that some will break their programming and eventually talk . What do you expect them to sound and look like? Mr Smith? FFS! These people have gone through traumatic sustained nearly life long programmes of deep mind control and/or genetic manipulation . You don't think they might have a little twitch or two?
What person, if any, who has spoken out from these programmes IS believeable then? Frankly a person in complete control of themselves who had something to say on these matters would be someone I would be much more sceptical of . Really.
Eleni, I know where you are coming from at times doubting your own experience, if anything that is the person I listen to. I had a friend previously involved with NASA/ JPL who had the night visitors. He is an exceptionally intelligent and perceptive man. To this day, he does not fully understand just who he was dealing with or what actually happened. If he were interviewed here I'm sure people would say they'd heard it all before on the net. But they did not experience it, and if they did, how would they look?
I am not invested in Aaron or anyone else's story, and for the record I do not give credence to people like Deagle or Wilcock, and just forget Dan Rubicsh.
It's a vibe thing, somebody has to come out with testimony from these programmes, so what exactly SHOULD they look and sound like?
It's a good thing Aaron has come out with the brief initial interview, his face needs to be seen if he is going to stick around and tell more, I hope he does.
Well I am still with the program. Kinda pisses me off how many people posted complete garbage and completely non related posts. This happens in many threads that have important information that "they" don't want you to know. The Klaus Dona Interview thread would be a perfect example of differences.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19672
Notice how smooth the Dona thread goes. No one trying to discredit him or go on about his personal presence or other distractions. When threads like this one with McCollum get spammed with garbage posts. Ask yourself why people would do that. Also taking notes on who they are really helps whipping through all threads and plucking facts. Please use the Klaus Dona thread as an example of what a thread about ET's should look like without agents all over it.
Yes.....although Klaus Dona talked a bit about the obstructions he had/was experiencing because of his work....and that the diliberate with-holding of 'truths' concerning ancient human history could be described as a crime against humanity....this is nothing compared to the actual criminal acts perpertrated against individuals....CHILDREN !!!! ...in the name of secret black projects.
The word torture was used somewhere earlier in this thread, and it really does beggar belief regarding info that is coming out about what has been done to children.
McCollum related the thing about him being chucked in the water etc etc and god knows what else he must have suffered.
Duncan O'Finion talked about himself and other children having electrified needles pushed down their fingernails....after being given a drug that prevented them from passing out when the pain was too much. This he said was to induce the trauma that was used to create multiple personality..
Now this is truly horrible and if ever the word evil fitted somewhere...it fits to describe what has been (is being?) done to children for 'projects'. The people guilty of these crimes are probably still alive...or at least their families are.
Then we've got the possible stargate opened up in the Gulf of Aden and the ramifications for the 'here and now' and linked to all the stuff about stargates and time/space travel and ETs.
So this is why I think the Aaron McCollum interview and a thread like this will attract more 'agents' than the Klaus Dona thread. The info is as damning as it gets. IMO. (especially re. the torture, abuse and ill-treatment of children)
Here is what I don't understand, people who come to camelot/avalon most likely have some knowledge of the MK Ultra programmes: manchurian candidates, sex slaves like Cathy O'brien,( who actually had a court case ), super soldiers etc. not to mention the genetic manipulation/ hybridizing etc....,
Ok, so IF you believe this stuff exists and you have REALLY studied it, (and it IS harrowing so I can see why people wouldn't ) then it stands to reason there must be quite a number of these people out there and also that some will break their programming and eventually talk . What do you expect them to sound and look like? Mr Smith? FFS! These people have gone through traumatic sustained nearly life long programmes of deep mind control and/or genetic manipulation . You don't think they might have a little twitch or two?
What person, if any, who has spoken out from these programmes IS believeable then? Frankly a person in complete control of themselves who had something to say on these matters would be someone I would be much more sceptical of . Really.
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Well said.
3optic
01-31-2010, 03:07 PM
Personally, I think Kerry gets too involved with the information being presented and is somewhat emotionally attached to what is being said...both when it confirms her beliefs and when it conflicts with her beliefs. A good interviewer....someone allowing another to really present their own facts and opinions...asks questions from a non-dualistic perspective.
If I could make a single suggestion on any and all future interviews....it would be to ask the whistleblower this question...
Why should anyone watching believe what you are saying?
The answer to that...or more specifically the reaction to that question would speak volumes about the person being asked.
Chamber your comments on Kerry's interview style may be true to some extent. It seems to me interview styles depend on the format and the relationship between the subject and interviewer.
For example Mike Wallace and many like him might take a "Devil's advocate" point of view to provoke a reaction that might reveal more than the subject would normally by provoking an emotional response. This is decidedly not in the non-dualistic frame you are calling for. The way clever journalists conduct interviews might be a grab bag of techniques to elicit unguarded reactions.
Non-dualistic principles don't really apply journalism the way you've described. It's the age old argument about bias in reporting. The mere act of placing more attention on one subject over another is an indication of dualistic bias. There is no "non-dualistic perspective" in an interview because the questions require a desire for answers. (She might have asked Aaron what is the sound of one hand clapping. :lol3:)
PC has said that theirs is not a conventional style. I find it helpful to watch, read, and listen to material from a variety of sources and let my intuition sort it out. ATM this interview is still settling into my subconscious..
"3optic, why should anyone believe what you're saying?"
"They shouldn't. I have Munchausen Syndrome. I like getting attention from people on weird esoteric forums."
Bill Ryan
01-31-2010, 03:27 PM
Hello, Everyone:
I intend to find time over the next few days, if I can, to catch up with the questions on my own thread. (There's been a huge amount going on behind the scenes which has been occupying Kerry and myself considerably). But I absolutely have to make a few comments here.
I would like to point out that there is a huge difference between questioning the legitimacy of a whistleblower...and questioning the validity and accuracy of what they're claiming in the interview.
A lie that one believes to be true and volunteers the info...does not make one a liar.
Also...a threat, attack, surveillance etc does not automatically validate what they are claiming.
So do not confuse the critique of the information being presented as a critique of the individual presenting the information.
Personally, I think Kerry gets too involved with the information being presented and is somewhat emotionally attached to what is being said...both when it confirms her beliefs and when it conflicts with her beliefs. A good interviewer....someone allowing another to really present their own facts and opinions...asks questions from a non-dualistic perspective.
If I could make a single suggestion on any and all future interviews....it would be to ask the whistleblower this question...
Why should anyone watching believe what you are saying?
The answer to that...or more specifically the reaction to that question would speak volumes about the person being asked.
...is a highly intelligent contribution. By picking this out, I'm not in any way minimizing the value of any other comments... and there have been many good observations on this thread.
I wasn't in LA to assist Kerry with the interview, so I watched it with great interest as did everyone else here.
I first met Aaron at the Camelot Conference in LA last September. My immediate strong impression of him was that he was bright, energetic, honest, eager to help, and someone I could immediately trust to do anything we asked.
He helped us out in a million ways behind the scenes without ever attracting attention to himself or seeking credit. He was 100% reliable, was always on the spot to assist when something needed to be done, and he impressed me a great deal. I'd have him in my team.
He had some major memory gaps, and it was immediately clear that something had happened to him and that he had been involved in some unusual program. He was trying hard to put the pieces together. He was puzzled and concerned about his own life and, like Duncan O'Finioan, was driven and determined to get to the bottom of it all.
Given what he believes is true about himself (and it all might very well be), he has real courage in coming forward so openly under his own name. Do recognize that. He's a little nervous, but - think about it - you can't be brave without also being frightened.
I've seen some sketches and photos he's produced (not shown on the video) and they're pretty thought-provoking. Having said that, a lot of what he stated in the interview was his best speculation, and he was absolutely doing what he could to state what he knew or thought he knew.
The provenance of information is critically important. What's first-hand? What's second-hand? What's casual military gossip? What's been seen on the internet? What comes from flashbacks or dreams? What's channeled? What's embellished? What's imagined?
These are questions that are at the heart of everything we all care about here - and the answers are not always obvious, even when talking directly and at length with a witness. As time goes on, these questions have become more and more important to me.
And to add a caveat here, anyone who's seen the excellent Jason Bourne trilogy can believe that flashbacks and dreams of events do NOT mean that they are unreal. They just point to directions to dig further in the physical, waking world.
There's definitely something going on in and around Yemen, but we don't yet know what it is. We need to keep watching. It might "just" be a political scenario, and I will need some convincing that this is anything to do with a Stargate or synthetic beings.
The Gulf of Aden Stargate story has been around for a while and has got itself all mixed up with NESARA and the Galactic Federation of Light, which is a huge red flag for me.
Stargates are certainly real (as synthetic humans probably are), but they are pretty small - jumproom size, so to speak. The claimed satellite photo (http://lightworkers.org/node/96744) of the "Gulf of Aden Stargate" just shows a dust storm (http://www.eosnap.com/?tag=gulf-of-aden)... the swirl effect is 200-300 miles across and is certainly no "Stargate".
The amount of energy needed to hold open that kind of breach of spacetime would be enough to consume the planet, and would not be stable. Stargates would not be visible from orbit without very specialized equipment, like the kind of super-sophisticated technology (see our interview with Wade Frazier (http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html)) that detects over-unity devices when they power up and "become visible" - wherever they may be.
I have a problem with people relying rather too faithfully on internet "research", and all in all YouTube is probably more helpful to the disinformationists than it is to the truth-seekers. Finding out what's REALLY going on is REALLY hard.
I can go on and on about this, as it's frustrating (to say the least). At Camelot we've always tried to follow our instincts and cross-check where we can, sharing our journey on camera with our audience. It's a journey of exploration and discovery for us just as much as it is for our visitors. We're trying to assemble a mosaic that's incredibly complex.
And one problem is that some witnesses are messed with (memory loss, medical problems, emotional issues, or leaned on and find themselves obliged to maintain split loyalties) - and I do not mean this unkindly.
The vast majority of them are quite wonderful and well-meaning people. But not all of their information can be relied upon automatically. We know this. If anyone still thinks we're deliberately peddling disinformation, they're either not very bright or are not very good students of human nature.
A proportion of the information we relay is bound to be incorrect or conjectural. It's inevitable. Really, we're just indicating directions and locations where others can look: and this is where Aaron did himself great credit, by urging viewers to check out for themselves everything he was talking about.
Like many of us, he doesn't know exactly what's going on - but he's hungry to find out, and I wish we had more in the world like him. He's determined, wants to know who he is and why he's here, refuses to accept the lies he's been told, and is astonishingly brave: I too am looking forward to the second interview, and hope that the fact that it's been stated so clearly by him that he will reveal more doesn't in some way stop that interview from happening.
My best wishes to all - Bill
Hi Bill,
I'm glad you said what you said about the picture floating around being the supposed stargate. It is merely an older photo of a dust storm Dated March 4, 2009. I just finished posting this on the Project Camelot forum, Peace, Rena. Here is the link:
http://www.eosnap.com/?tag=gulf-of-aden
SteveX
01-31-2010, 04:33 PM
SNIPPED
When threads like this one with McCollum get spammed with garbage posts. Ask yourself why people would do that. Also taking notes on who they are really helps whipping through all threads and plucking facts. Please use the Klaus Dona thread as an example of what a thread about ET's should look like without agents all over it.
I consider myself a very fair minded individual. I make a point of watching every vid on PC. I have had my own experiences so I read sites like this to gather information and or learn from others.
This allows me to be open minded to others experiences but having said that I am NOT gullible. Just because the story / information / vid / sworn affidavits are on sites like this DOESN'T make them anymore truthful. Dude... I have spent years selling cars to the gullible. You can't kid a kidder. It is my opinion, weather you like it or not, that this McCullum fellow is about as credible as a beat up 20 year old car with 9 recorded owners and just 15,000 GENUINE miles on it. Yer!...it's possible but screams unlikely. I'll say the same for Ofinioan, Leo Zagami and, to use someone else’s term, "Dan Rubicsh." Jim Sparks and a few others, on the other hand, are far more plausible. My opinion.
What really ****** me off about this thread was others going on about not being able to copy the eye movement or that McCullum was perhaps a reptilian. FFS some folks need to get a grip as all their doing is showing their ignorance. Not only with the limits of the Internet and tech (FPS, lag, digital synchronisation to fps) but by their irrational behaviour of JUMPING to these conclusions.
You are entitled to believe what you like. You can even point and shout, metaphorically, "Taliban" at those that do not concur with your belief. However, you'll do yourself a disservice if you blindly unquestioningly believe everything on PC.
Anyone want to buy a car? :shocked:
Without analysing, relying only on my gut feeling ( I maybe wrong) but to me that guy is genuine....in the sense that he believes what he is saying...
This maybe the case but you have to be aware of the dividing line. An old friend of mine suffers from schizophrenia. Last time he was committed he genuinely thought the devil was sitting in the passenger seat of his car talking to him. Not saying McCullum has mental health (modoraters / litigation :tongue2: ) issues, just stating about dividing lines.
TRANCOSO
01-31-2010, 04:54 PM
The Gulf of Aden Stargate story has been around for a while and has got itself all mixed up with NESARA and the Galactic Federation of Light, which is a huge red flag for me.
:nono: Bill, :mad3:
Bill Ryan
01-31-2010, 07:53 PM
Hello again, Folks:
I thought you might be interested to see this e-mail exchange I had with Aaron just now, posted here with his full permission.
Hi, Aaron:
I very much enjoyed your interview with Kerry. Great job, buddy. Hang on in there for the next one.
There’s a Project Avalon thread about the interview which contains some good, encouraging responses and some intelligent comments. I don’t usually pitch in, but I wrote this:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=231531&postcount=144
... you may want to take a look. I put quite a bit of thought into it.
Take good care!
All best wishes - Bill
Aaron replied:
Hi Bill,
I hope all is well for you these days. Thank you so much for all you do.
I just finished reading the post you sent me and you were spot on. You couldn't have explained it better and I still have been getting emails of people questioning my intent or motives behind the interview.
I simply tell them that it was Kerry who felt I should share this information I had so we decided to go with it and do the biography interview at a later date.
I also tell these people that they should indeed research for themselves. It's so important that people do that as you know otherwise they are no better than a person listening to everything they hear on the TV and believing it's fact.
My best wishes for you always Bill. Perhaps if it can happen I would really love to have you at my next interview.
Aaron E. McCollum
NancyV
01-31-2010, 09:41 PM
Chamber, I'm curious what you would think if a person being interviewed answered the question you posed, "Why should anyone watching believe what you are saying?", with an answer like "I don't really give a **** (choose your own graphic 4 letter word) what anyone thinks about what I say or if they believe me or not."
To me this would be a GREAT response and would indicate that the person telling his/her story has no need of approval and is confident enough within himself that he does not need the agreement or belief of anyone else. I know this is what I have said when asked that question. My husband has been asked that several times when telling his experiences and basically he doesn't care what anyone else thinks or believes.
I would hope that MOST interviewees, including Aaron, would feel this way, since there will always be many who criticize and call you a liar if you tell your story. We are much more centered when our sense of self worth does not depend upon any corroboration from others and cannot be shaken by other's disbelief or criticism. Why Kerry doesn't ask that question, I don't know, but it's possible many would find it insulting if they were told "I don't care WHAT you think about my experiences!". So perhaps Kerry is wise to NOT ask it.
Nancy
******
If I could make a single suggestion on any and all future interviews....it would be to ask the whistleblower this question...
Why should anyone watching believe what you are saying?
The answer to that...or more specifically the reaction to that question would speak volumes about the person being asked.
burgundia
01-31-2010, 10:14 PM
My advice to all the people being interviewed would be: do not roll your eyes, do not look to the side, do not look up or down, do not speak too slowly or too fast, look like an average Joe, if you have a nervous tick forget about giving an interview as it is a sign of not being a trustworthy person. Aha and be between 50 -70 years old.
its interesting to hear from someone my age..
seagates sound exciting... wondering if some seagates were ment to be underwater at there construction or they went under later.
Ha! His dog makes the same sounds as mine.
He has a pitbull from the sound of the "moan".
I bet its a huggabull one!:wub2:
Majorion
02-01-2010, 12:36 AM
seagates sound exciting... wondering if some seagates were ment to be underwater at there construction or they went under later...
About the only thing I could find on Project Seagate (http://www.scribd.com/doc/26119893/ADEN-STARGATE-PROJECT-SEAGATE)
lawyerforliberty
02-01-2010, 01:04 AM
I also am of the same opinion mntruthseeker. Did anyone notice his continous glances to the left? It seemed quite unnuatural. The most he did this was an hour into the interview. Be interested to read about others' opinions on this.
I watched the entire interview. I'm not sure what to think just yet. I have an open mind to what he is saying, but I am skeptical as well. I do see the point made by some in this thread that many of us could give and interview like this too.
Regarding his rapid eye movement to his left, I made a point to watch this carefully throughout the interview. What I noticed is that he never did it when he was speaking. He only did it when he was not speaking, typically when he was listening to Kerry. I got the impresion that this was an intentional, controlled action on his part. Something he was able to do when he concentrated on it, but unable to do when he was concentrating on speaking. There was a person sitting to his left, but the rapid eye movement was not an effort to look at that person. He never made the eye movement to his right.
Not sure what to make of it and, actually, I doubt I'll give it much more thought.
Seashore
02-01-2010, 01:08 AM
I think the eye movement was simply a mannerism.
Luminari
02-01-2010, 01:09 AM
About the only thing I could find on Project Seagate (http://www.scribd.com/doc/26119893/ADEN-STARGATE-PROJECT-SEAGATE)
Thanks Majorion for looking... shame the book didn't have anything of substance.
Though the last pic, the black & white one was very intriguing huh? not in relation to the alleged Aden stargate but just in general I mean.
Luminari
02-01-2010, 01:16 AM
..a black heli made a beeline for my bedroom- it was fitted with a row (arc shaped) of infra red lights- I had just hung up with Aaron and Dave Corso- I was also on skype with Luminari..
This is probably a bit late but I just wanted to verify Eleni's claim about the attack on New Years...
I was going out of my mind with worry as I didn't get to hear if she was ok until about 12 hours later. Usually a busy household.. was awful timing for her that she happened to be alone then. Quite helpless feeling your friend is in danger and you are on the other side of the planet. :sad:
Firinn
02-01-2010, 01:37 AM
I think the eye movement was simply a mannerism.
This gives quite a straight forward explanation of "eye accessing cues"
http://www.smartdriving.co.uk/Misc_pages/Eye_accessing.htm
Would seem Mr. McCollum was recalling a lot of stuff i.e. not making it up. Aslo looking to the side often at ear level would tell me his primary modality is "Auditory".
Can be a useful tool in undersanding where someone is "coming from" but certainly not "fool proof". Hopefuly this information will add another string to someones bow when viewing their next interview.
Love :)
Firinn
lawyerforliberty
02-01-2010, 02:14 AM
This gives quite a straight forward explanation of "eye accessing cues"
http://www.smartdriving.co.uk/Misc_pages/Eye_accessing.htm
Would seem Mr. McCollum was recalling a lot of stuff i.e. not making it up. Aslo looking to the side often at ear level would tell me his primary modality is "Auditory".
Can be a useful tool in undersanding where someone is "coming from" but certainly not "fool proof". Hopefuly this information will add another string to someones bow when viewing their next interview.
Love :)
Firinn
Thank you for this link. I have read similar things before.
However, McCollum's eye movement was a rapid flicker horizontially to the left. It always followed a blink of his eyes. It was not a sustained look as if he was trying to recall or construct anything. He blinked a lot during the interview, but not once did he make the rapid flick of the eyes to the left while speaking. Only while listening. I may be wrong, but I think it was controlled.
Having said I would probably not give this any more thought I just did. But now I'm done.
Majorion
02-01-2010, 02:31 AM
Though the last pic, the black & white one was very intriguing huh? not in relation to the alleged Aden stargate but just in general I mean.
Well my friends from Pegasus (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/) were discussing that picture a while ago here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread197741/pg209#pid6931597)
If you ask me though, its nothing :original:
Luminari
02-01-2010, 02:39 AM
Well my friends from Pegasus (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/) were discussing that picture a while ago here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread197741/pg209#pid6931597)
If you ask me though, its nothing :original:
Oh if you are reading this ZORGON the forum is free again, we'd love it if you came back.. everyone greatly appreciated your contribution and information.
Of course Mr Lear would be wonderful to see you too.
Respect + gratitude x infinity.
Waking.Up
02-01-2010, 08:21 PM
I'm interested where tone3jaguar and his remote viewing abillity are?
As I presumed, no sign of him.
Jacqui D
02-01-2010, 10:23 PM
well i watched this video through and i do not wish to judge or presume what or if this guy is telling the truth, because there does seem to be a lot of judging in these scenarios.
This guy did come out with some new information which was a pleasant surprise a little different to what we have been given in the past.
I have to say i feel he is genuine, the body language regarding the eye flickering did not seem so strange to me my mother could do this her eyes would flicker back and forth with her not even knowing she was doing it at times, whether it is a nervous thing or not who knows.
I was interested about the links The Watcher gave that is a little odd to say the least, this makes me think, but then there have been links with tv programs and films to other whistle blowers i could mention but i won't from this very forum.
Eleni i felt for you when i read your post i knew things have been happening to you of late but didn't realise, still waiting for that e.mail?
I will be looking out for Aaron's longer interview this young man has a lot to tell i feel. I hope this is not BS as such because this only ties us into the old system of control again we need positive information now because this is really getting tedious we have been round the block so many times i am getting dizzy with it all.
I have a feeling this thread will run for a while yet and until the next interview we can do as much digging as we can about this stargate as Aaron said himself look for yourself do not take his testimony as gospel.
Thanks for the input Bill and nice to see Aaron's take on the responses of this short interview with Kerry.
THEWATCHER
02-01-2010, 10:49 PM
Yup agree completely and one should question witness testimony- I was just informing that something did indeed occur on Dec. 31st.
Barry, do you know of any helicop fitted with infra red lights? They were on the side (I only saw one side and jumped out of bed to call Aaron and I hid for several hours) but I heard it fly over the house a few times after the first sighting.
Infra red lights? Hmm, not sure, can try and find out.
Spiritelemental
02-02-2010, 03:34 AM
Interesting stuff...
Karen
02-02-2010, 03:39 AM
Thank you for this link. I have read similar things before.
However, McCollum's eye movement was a rapid flicker horizontially to the left. It always followed a blink of his eyes. It was not a sustained look as if he was trying to recall or construct anything. He blinked a lot during the interview, but not once did he make the rapid flick of the eyes to the left while speaking. Only while listening. I may be wrong, but I think it was controlled.
Having said I would probably not give this any more thought I just did. But now I'm done.
Yes, that's right, he only made the rapid left flick while listening.
whatsmyrole
02-02-2010, 04:11 AM
After watching this video, i felt like i really wanted to believe everything that was being said but for some reason was not 100% sold on it. I cant figure out why either. I tried to do some research on Aaron but really only found these few things.
Just thought i would share them.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1391740/
http://www.mjwproductions.com/Dance/veterans.html
http://www.empac.rpi.edu/events/2009/fall/dmc_screening/
http://laist.com/2008/02/19/vets_tell_the_r_3.php
http://www.meetup.com/members/10238373/
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/06/entertainment/et-marks6
http://www1.va.gov/vetevent/wsc/2008/NewsRelease08.cfm?ID=263
SteveX
02-02-2010, 12:49 PM
As a side bar to the topic the links provided by Whatsmyrole are kind of scary. I don't mean Aaron is scary just the fact that so much can be found out by a google search.
I think I'll delete my real name off the net. I don't want strangers knowing where I live, work, hobbies, friends or anything else.
back to topic
no caste
02-02-2010, 03:11 PM
Yup agree completely and one should question witness testimony- I was just informing that something did indeed occur on Dec. 31st.
eleni - Just as an aside here, Dec 31 was a Thursday. It was the day I think, New Years Eve or the day before, the Canadian PM asked the Governor General (Queen's rep in Canada) to shut down Canada's Parliament. It's still shut down - bizarre !!!
There was something this morning (Feb2) about 2 oil barrels (with explosives?) washing up somewhere in Israel. Don't know full details.
Chamber
02-03-2010, 03:06 AM
Chamber, I'm curious what you would think if a person being interviewed answered the question you posed, "Why should anyone watching believe what you are saying?", with an answer like "I don't really give a **** (choose your own graphic 4 letter word) what anyone thinks about what I say or if they believe me or not."
To me this would be a GREAT response and would indicate that the person telling his/her story has no need of approval and is confident enough within himself that he does not need the agreement or belief of anyone else. I know this is what I have said when asked that question. My husband has been asked that several times when telling his experiences and basically he doesn't care what anyone else thinks or believes.
I would hope that MOST interviewees, including Aaron, would feel this way, since there will always be many who criticize and call you a liar if you tell your story. We are much more centered when our sense of self worth does not depend upon any corroboration from others and cannot be shaken by other's disbelief or criticism. Why Kerry doesn't ask that question, I don't know, but it's possible many would find it insulting if they were told "I don't care WHAT you think about my experiences!". So perhaps Kerry is wise to NOT ask it.
Nancy
It really depends on the intricacies of the response...and they can be very subtle.
Someone could say "I don't care what anyone thinks" and convey complete apathy....or say the same exact thing and convey defensiveness. Defensiveness is always a red flag for me.
As Bill pointed out, Aaron makes the point of saying "research for yourself." If memory serves me correctly I think he also made the statement "I hope I'm wrong" in reference to something not very fun happening.
To me statements like these are a reflection of the individual and their genuineness. It shows they are not seeking validation and are unafraid of being wrong...because they are on the same quest for Truth as all of us are.
Meanwhile an individual pushing an agenda or with some vested interest in the masses believing what they are saying is going to have a vastly different response.
For me....anyone absolutely certain and insistent of what Is and what Is Not puts them self into question. Here I would dissect the Kerry/Greer video but that's far too much of a chore for me right now. lol
Spiritelemental
02-03-2010, 10:02 PM
Project Camelot should try to interview Timothy Thrapp. He knows much more than Wade Frazier does in my opinion.
Please listen to this hour long audio interview. It starts off a bit slow, but picks up a great deal later on.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/waterfuelmuseum/2007/09/29/timothy
Ravencalls
02-03-2010, 11:30 PM
What do a pirate and an alien have in common?.....
I will leave it an open joke for now.. :)..
clue~ it has nothing to do with ships !
Anyway about all this talk on the Project Seagate and McCollum....
well all I can say is if its true.... we should be getting more people comming out to speak about it....and eventually we might get some info on Google about it.. ~smile~
keep it comming...
dddanieljjjamesss
02-04-2010, 06:17 PM
Coming out of the shadows to say that I am extremely happy that Bill entered into this discussion. Just knowing that you trust him makes me give Aaron a second chance. I was on the skeptic side, and still largely am (I am interested in the esoteric but I am nowhere near the level that many people are on who research and have a native understanding, so it is easy for me to be skeptic.)
Everyone's comments have a place in this thread, and discussing the discussion is kind of silly when we could be discussing Aaron!
gscraig
02-06-2010, 10:08 PM
Well stated Mr. Ryan, well stated indeed.
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