911 Video: Great baseline (bass line?) report Jan12-10

[no caste]

I realize there are a lot of threads on this forum about 911. This is a great video IMO. Good information about Huffman Aviation (located next to Barnum & Bailey Circus), money/bank account GHWB, magic tricks, John O'Neill (FBI, deceased Sept11/01),* Jeb Bush and Huffman docs.

9/11 Connect the Dots Ep. 1 (Part 1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmliaqIRBE

See also: Evergreen Aviation, Oregon - the Langley of the w. coast

Document - USA: Below the radar: Secret flights to torture and 'disappearance'
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/051/2006/en/3edf2253-d447-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/amr510512006en.html

*WIKI: John Patrick O'Neill (February 6, 1952 – September 11, 2001) was a top American anti-terrorism expert, who worked as a special agent and eventually Assistant Director in the Federal Bureau of Investigation until late 2001.

[orthodoxymoron]

Great video. I used to watch a lot of this stuff...but I decided I needed to move on. It's sort of morbidly fascinating. I found it to be very interesting and exciting...but it was tearing me down. I stopped listening to Alex Jones because of this. It's just too overwhelming.

However...has anyone considered the possibility that 9/11 was ordered by non-humans? I've mentioned this previously. Also...regarding Flight 77 (and possibly the others)...has anyone considered the possibility that the passengers were a part of the Secret Space Program (for example)...and are presently working on Mars...or in a D.U.M.B. somewhere? I had suspected this possibility...but the video points out the high number of Navy personnel, and people with high-level security clearances. The Navy is supposed to be in charge of a lot of the UFO/ET stuff...as odd as that seems. Who knows? But have there been a lot of special programs and services to remember the people who were on the planes (especially Flight 77)? A follow-up might be revealing.

I continue to think that several governments, militaries, and secret agencies were involved in 9/11...and not necessarily because they wanted to be. I tend to think that the 'Alien Presence' that Bill Cooper couldn't quite pin down...had a lot to do with 9/11. No proof. No inside info. Speculation is probably necessary...but disclaimers need to be made. One can watch video after video...and read book after book...and come away with some pretty overwhelming impressions about what really happened on that terrible day. If we don't properly deal with this...there may be many more terrible days.

[Fredkc]

I hate to be a pest with this, but I really am surprised it isn't used more.


Zero structural engineering skills required.
Zero flight experience required.
No listening to long-winded circumstantial suppositions.
No counting on impossible to see "fuzzy dots".
etc

The only skill, a person needs, to understand the implications of this footage, is the ability to tell time.

Three things are obvious from the footage:
Fact 1: Both towers have been hit by planes.
Fact 2: First tower has fallen.
Fact 3: All planes, in US, have been ordered grounded.

This means that this footage is approx. 45 min. to an hour post collisions, and both planes are "down",
and Flight UAL175 is now a tangled mess inside a WTC tower.

Except...

AjRS-gRyLTo



Question: What then, is UAL175 doing at 30,000 ft, over the mainland, headed West?

It's so simple every citizen can grasp the implications,
Anyone can explain what it means to any one.
And it is enough to get passed any "conspiracy nut" dismissals.

Fred

[saxapower]

However...has anyone considered the possibility that 9/11 was ordered by non-humans? I've mentioned this previously. Also...regarding Flight 77 (and possibly the others)...has anyone considered the possibility that the passengers were a part of the Secret Space Program (for example)...and are presently working on Mars...or in a D.U.M.B. somewhere? I had suspected this possibility...but the video points out the high number of Navy personnel, and people with high-level security clearances. The Navy is supposed to be in charge of a lot of the UFO/ET stuff...as odd as that seems. Who knows? But have there been a lot of special programs and services to remember the people who were on the planes (especially Flight 77)? A follow-up might be revealing.

Killing thousands of people only to make disappear from the map some hundreds?

Well in my opinion, there are easier, cheaper and less noisy/dirty ways to make disappear people from the planet, but with them one never knows what kind of "brilliant" idea will go out of their hat next time so I'll give you the point.

It's a kind of magic, isn't it? I mean they play the magicians game here: Oh! look at there! It's planes crashing into the twin towers...! What the...!And "abracadabra"! some navy/secret service guys make "plop!" and appear on Mars surface while several thousand innocents die in Manhattan.

Mmmmmm, you have a brilliant mind Ortho! Not always agree with you but brilliant indeed.

Peace and Love!

[timetotelltheworld]

I know most of us are beleivers that it was an inside job this tape convinced me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

then this tape with its lame music really made me take a look at the bigger picture............

were all being conned


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

and who are we being conned by
the ones who killed phil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhL-u3d2XCw

[orthodoxymoron]

Wow Fredkc! I hadn't seen that one before! Has anyone in an official capacity tried to spin that one? That's amazing!

:mfr_omg:

[no caste]

However...has anyone considered the possibility that 9/11 was ordered by non-humans? I've mentioned this previously. Also...regarding Flight 77 (and possibly the others)...has anyone considered the possibility that the passengers were a part of the Secret Space Program (for example)...

Aliens? I wondered about the flight list too - lots of navy. I read something that Stardustguardian (I think) posted: From the explanation in Voyages II 2e published around 2002, page 408 is my understanding the terrorist attack of 911 was a cover up to hide the fact that the towers were going to fall anyway because of the sonic pulse that was used to activate the "Manhattan vortex and Montauk-Phi-ex Falcon APIN"

I don't know what that means. I haven't been following the Montauk project very closely.

[no caste]

I hate to be a pest with this, but I really am surprised it isn't used more.

Not a pest at all! :original: New to me.

Thanks!

[no caste]

BASICS:

Flight 77 - Pentagon
9/11 CONSPIRACY: Did the Global Hawk drones use Uranium?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1aBFbyN7xY

9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public
Kurt Sonnenfeld: I am convinced that my tapes reveal many more anomalies than I am capable of recognizing given my limited qualifications. I will therefore cooperate in any way that I can with serious and reliable experts in a common endeavour to expose the truth.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

9/11 Morgan Reynolds *Unofficial Story* Chief Economist (US Dept of Labor), 2000-02
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18901

Pipeline to 911
http://www.viewzone.com/pipeline.html

more to follow...

[Fredkc]

No Caste;

Thanks.

It flat puzzles hell out of me.
I have posted this 2 or 3 times on this forum, and on two other forums, as well. Each time it was what I would consider, to be "on topic".

Each time I have explained what a simple, no-brainer it is to get almost anyone interested in the subject.

So far, you are the very first person to ever respond, in any manner.

I really don't get it.

Fred

[no caste]

So far, you are the very first person to ever respond, in any manner.

Fred - Thanks, but that first person was ortho a few posts up. I'd be second! See, it's good to be repetitive!!

HOW can a plane be up there after it crashed. Hmmm. :nono: Like collapsed* Building 7 news reports before its collapse.

*I read that Dr Judy Wood *hates* that term. I'll call it zooped, then.

[Fredkc]

Apologies and thanks to Orthos, and you.

"HOW can a plane be up there after it crashed?"

Simple question, huh?

Now, the software they are using is something called "Flight Explorer".
It displays all air traffic and the flights info, for an area.

The first thing that comes to mind is that Flight Explorer does time delay their data.
Says so right on their site. But it is in the 15 minute range, and never more than 30 minutes.

But this MSNBC footage has got to be from later than that.
* First Tower has already fallen.
* Both planes already hit. (they say)
* All planes have been grounded, nation-wide, and...
* Look at the screen. The whole New York/Boston air traffic area is damned near empty!

It's got to be close to an hour after the plane hit. It might be possible to compare this to some known time line and establish it more closely.

So...
"HOW can a plane be up there after it crashed."
;)

[no caste]

Jeez, now you've got me going Fred!!! getting steamed...

http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/jpg/KSturbine400.jpg
“Boeing” jet turbine at FKQ landfill.

Just wait until I find the Flight 93 'crash' site photos!!! (somewhere on this forum - whew. don't know where (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3863).)(they're like a teeny gravel pit, with 10 guys standing around, with shovels, picking their noses...)

Thanks for the software info.