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Antonia
02-03-2010, 12:32 AM
I'm flabbagasted .... how far does the censureship go?? I was in the middle of a heated debate with a sceptic friend on Facebook and I cout and pasted Steven Greer's open letter to Obamma that was posted on the net last year and next thing....big alarm bells and I was instantly disabled and told the material was offensive bla bla .... what the F.....? Is this some kind of petty burocratic mistake with Key words ? or serious censership does any one know???? or had similer experiances????

mntruthseeker
02-03-2010, 12:40 AM
I'm flabbagasted .... how far does the censureship go?? I was in the middle of a heated debate with a sceptic friend on Facebook and I cout and pasted Steven Greer's open letter to Obamma that was posted on the net last year and next thing....big alarm bells and I was instantly disabled and told the material was offensive bla bla .... what the F.....? Is this some kind of petty burocratic mistake with Key words ? or serious censership does any one know???? or had similer experiances????


Hey joine the club...............I got booted too for posting the video of the vet that was disclosing how many military men and women are AWOL


I have had many weird things happening to me also but I won't let them shut me up.

Snowbird
02-03-2010, 12:44 AM
Hey joine the club...............

I have had many weird things happening to me also but I won't let them shut me up.

Very, very ditto!!!!!

monique
02-03-2010, 01:07 AM
Antonia, here, in south of south america, a judge censorship and close a site of a newspaperman who write about the corruption of politicians from my city ... bad, very bad the reproach in the internet !!!!!!!!! Monique.

Zeddo
02-03-2010, 01:21 AM
On a different thread someone wrote about taking back ownership of the media. Personally I think that the internet is "the media" and that we need to take back ownership of THIS media.
Let the newspapers do what they do I could care less, but we need the internet free, free from everything especially ownership by the goons.

This is just the beginning, they want to shut down ALL free thought and expression and they won't stop until we do something about it.

The internet market is HUGE, if we all stopped using it to trade and barter, they would lose their revenue and would have to rethink how they "do business". After all, it is the masses who own the net, and not the few who wish to be king. We can topple them if we were of a mind. What if everybody decided to shut down their facebook accounts in protest? They would mess their trousers because they earn a LOT of revenue from that.

WE HAVE THE POWER, BUT DO WE HAVE THE WILL?

Z

mntruthseeker
02-03-2010, 01:27 AM
Exactly Zeddo

I stopped going to certain sites so as I wouldn't drag the "dirt" with me from facebook

I managed to get up there but under a different email............just to continue on with my postings to heck with them

Antonia
02-03-2010, 01:43 AM
have just opened up a new account on face book, Toni Leslie, my nick name for real... any way now that I've done it I've lost all interest in going and notifieng all my old Facebook friends.... I'll have fun tomorrow attempting to re post the offending e-mail... Ill have to play around and take out words like Obamma and sensitive info etc and see if it goes through or if I get the " No No None of that here" squad on my case again...hmmmmm

carriblu
02-03-2010, 02:11 AM
watch out, soon they'll be calling you guys terrorists

Operator
02-03-2010, 02:34 AM
Bummer ... I know how it feels ... every now and then I write a reaction to online articles of a dutch newspaper.
They've clearly listed what their house rules are, before you can reply you have to agree to their rules.

But once in a while the reaction is rejected ... they only say it's in conflict with their house rules. They won't tell you
which one and why .... But I have my doubts ... when rereading my reaction I cannot find any violation to their rules.
It's just because the topic must be too hot ... :nono:

I even considered this week to open a thread and post all my rejected reactions there. This way it becomes clear
what the topics are that are a nono for them .... :tongue2:

mntruthseeker
02-03-2010, 03:14 AM
hey Operator thats an idea.....I got the craziest letter a few months back from facebook that caused me to re-think of where I go next. I kept it and I should post it up there for all to see what jerks they can be when they want to

Its obvious whats going on

Zenbuoy
02-03-2010, 03:35 AM
The employees who shut you down are surely reading the stuff here, yes?


http://projectavalon.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1039&stc=1&d=1265167871


:welcomeani:

Bobbie
02-03-2010, 03:42 AM
See what happens if you refer to him as the O'man. :lmao:

have just opened up a new account on face book, Toni Leslie, my nick name for real... any way now that I've done it I've lost all interest in going and notifieng all my old Facebook friends.... I'll have fun tomorrow attempting to re post the offending e-mail... Ill have to play around and take out words like Obamma and sensitive info etc and see if it goes through or if I get the " No No None of that here" squad on my case again...hmmmmm

Swanny
02-03-2010, 11:49 AM
When I send messages I have to put in security check words, none of my friends have to do this :sneaky2:

tone3jaguar
02-03-2010, 12:33 PM
When I send messages I have to put in security check words, none of my friends have to do this :sneaky2:

sounds like maby your computer is not saving the facebook cookies for some reason

shiftmonkey
02-03-2010, 02:22 PM
What if everybody decided to shut down their facebook accounts in protest? They would mess their trousers because they earn a LOT of revenue from that.

WE HAVE THE POWER, BUT DO WE HAVE THE WILL?

Z

I shut down my facebook account months ago because it started to feel like I was part of a corporate data mining experiment. All those stupid apps coming at me got to be really annoying. :nono: End of rant :original:

If you are interested in getting involved there is an organization called EFF that does a lot to keep free expression going on the internet: http://www.eff.org

Swanny
02-03-2010, 02:23 PM
Just got this message from a friend

WARNING!! go to privacy settings, click blocked users and enter automation labs in the name search box, you will see a list of random people who have access to all your account details... block each one seperatly to secure your account again... i had 28!!!

I had them as well

enemyofNWO
02-03-2010, 02:58 PM
Just the last few months I received two emails requests from Facebook to join . I just ignored it . it's not worth talking to them . I always thought that facebook is a dream come true for the spooks organizations on this planet .
Half of the world is concerned about "privacy " and I am on of those . That website creates a surreal situation of unknown people who pretend to be friends . I would never dream to entrust Facebook or any other organization with my personal details . In my situation being a person of special interest to the spooks , it would be a terrible mistake that would open endless possibilities of infiltration .
Sorry to hear about your bad experience Antonia . It seems to me that Facebook behaved exactly according to my lousy expectation of them .

Stardustaquarion
02-03-2010, 03:41 PM
I am sorry for you Antonia it must be rather umpleasant for you to go through this experience, I also have had emails and videos deleted from facebook it is getting rather pathetic. The only reason I keep the account is cos family abroad

I think that censorship has always been there and the things that don't get censored normally are in keeping with TPTB agenda...

Love

Swanny
02-03-2010, 03:48 PM
Just got this message from a friend



I had them as well

Looks like it's nonsense
http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/automationlabs.asp

Peace of mind
02-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Facebook, Myspace and the like are just monitoring hubs for the PTB. We can not forget that DARPA had the internet way before the populace knew it even exsisted.

Peace

illuminate
02-03-2010, 04:17 PM
unfortunately, I don't find this surprising.
the US government, owns, operates and controls facebook and myspace,
and they have for quite sometime now.

they like to keep track of their children :original:

please don't be fooled in thinking, "they" don't know your every move,
and I mean every! and we make it so easy for them...

they just love how we put every thought and plan on these social networking sites,
they love to see us tweet all day on twitter, they love that we use gps and carry
cell phones with us everywhere, they love us using credit and debit cards...
everything is recordable and traceable, right down to that little box hooked
to your tv and even the HD tv itself, never mind the satellite technology
that can peek right into your windows :original:

I'm not trying to induce an orwellian fear here, this is simply the truth of the
world we live in these days.

and you should be careful, because with a little thing called the "patriot act"
they can get away with anything!

thank god we live in the land of the free?

~ one love ~

Peace of mind
02-03-2010, 04:36 PM
^^yup, land of the free, haha

I’m not only amazed at how Goggle map is able to scan the license plates on cars but also the ability to see the make/design/ and color of people clothes walking by…you can literally take a cyber ride thru anyone’s neighborhood. How is this done…do they use cameras on police cruisers? Or is this technology similar to the tech seen in the movies Déjà vu and Minority Report? Amazing and sneaky...not sure if i really like it either...

Peace

Swanny
02-03-2010, 04:43 PM
They just drive cars along the roads with multi-direction cameras mounted to the roofs. I have seen them a few times now.

People are worried that facebook won't be free soon. Suits me :original: but I don't think they will ever charge as like has been said they use it for info on all those registered.

Fredkc
02-03-2010, 04:50 PM
Yes, I have a Facebook account.

That said, I only have it because several friends bothered the hell out of me until I had one. They're still not happy as I only check it about once a month, if that.

If you want my opinion, as an IT guy, here is what I recommend;
Drop Facebook! And drop Myspace!

Instead, just go down to the closest bus depot, and start licking toilet seats.
1. You will probably get fewer viruses.
2. Fewer Spyware bots.
3. You will also probably meet a better class of people.

Plain enuff for ya?

Fred

housemouse2
02-03-2010, 04:53 PM
Facebook is connected to CIA people. Do not put anything of real value on that site. You could deemed a "domestic terrorist."

I only use it for games and 'whatcha doing?" post. Nothing more than that.

Mercuriel
02-03-2010, 05:00 PM
Make sure You archive all of Your Important Information and Videos. This Year 2010 - The Internet as We have come to know it - Will die...

Obama's Administration has said as much in that They would like to see all Conspiracy Websites shut down.

"Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, Obama’s appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, outlined a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy."

From...

http://www.infowars.com/obama-information-czar-outlined-plan-for-government-to-infiltrate-conspiracy-groups/

Related Link...

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585##

:nono:

Shaynard
02-03-2010, 05:08 PM
unfortunately, I don't find this surprising.
the US government, owns, operates and controls facebook and myspace,
and they have for quite sometime now.

they like to keep track of their children :original:

please don't be fooled in thinking, "they" don't know your every move,
and I mean every! and we make it so easy for them...

and you should be careful, because with a little thing called the "patriot act"
they can get away with anything!

thank god we live in the land of the free?

~ one love ~

Stole the words from my heart.. again ;)

Living in Canada I find myself constantly reminding my Canadian friends that, "Big brother" as many call it, is not just in the US. For some reason most I know seem to believe it is just an American problem. Simply not the case.

All of my "online info" is misleading. It gives the impression I am someone I am not. I have had reasons to keep personal information safe, and the only way I know to do that, is either a) say nothing or b) say nothing of value regarding your personal self. Or not be online at all.. But then how would I watch this game? :D

Even this site is "monitored" along with everything on the internet, phone, TV.. Part of why I enjoy this site so much.. it's almost like straight defiance of that system. Fearless posting really does 'scare" "Them".

Sorry to hear about your facebook account. That must be annoying. Thank you for creating a thread about it though and prompting this discussion. :)

In light, of love
Shaynard

waitinginthewings
02-03-2010, 05:26 PM
Looks like it's nonsense
http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/automationlabs.asp

Would like to know who owns and controls snopes.com?

enemyofNWO
02-03-2010, 06:21 PM
"they just love how we put every thought and plan on these social networking sites,
they love to see us tweet all day on twitter, they love that we use gps and carry
cell phones with us everywhere, they love us using credit and debit cards...
everything is recordable and traceable, right down to that little box hooked
to your tv and even the HD tv itself, never mind the satellite technology
that can peek right into your windows

I'm not trying to induce an orwellian fear here, this is simply the truth of the
world we live in these days. "

I could not agree more . I am sure that each participant to this forum would have a file and a profile . Under the PTB rule , as a principle ,we are all potential criminals ..... . In some other places I also often noticed disappearing posts , that is certainly a sign of control .

Swanny
02-03-2010, 07:21 PM
Would like to know who owns and controls snopes.com?

Yea that's a good point :naughty:

TRANCOSO
02-03-2010, 07:54 PM
Make sure You archive all of Your Important Information and Videos. This Year 2010 - The Internet as We have come to know it - Will die...

Obama's Administration has said as much in that They would like to see all Conspiracy Websites shut down.

"Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, Obama’s appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, outlined a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy."
Are you kidding?! They love to see who are surfing on those sites.
They're not closing down anything.

Majorion
02-03-2010, 08:27 PM
Facebook, Myspace and the like are just monitoring hubs for the PTB. We can not forget that DARPA had the internet way before the populace knew it even exsisted.
Facebook is a classic data mining operation on a macro scale.

I have never registered and never will.

The only thing I've seen people do on Facebook is retrace old friends they always hated anyway.

Majorion
02-03-2010, 08:29 PM
Would like to know who owns and controls snopes.com?
Snopes is a disinformation website, they also stuck their nose in the Odigo affair of 9/11.

Astra
02-03-2010, 09:01 PM
they like to keep track of their children :original:

please don't be fooled in thinking, "they" don't know your every move,
and I mean every!

I'm not trying to induce an orwellian fear here, this is simply the truth of the
world we live in these days.



~ one love ~

You took the words right out of my mouth, my friend! That is why I never wanted to open a Facebook account. I had a hunch, I guess ... :wink2:
I am sorry you had that experience, Antonia.

in L:wub2:ve and Light
Astra

Mercuriel
02-03-2010, 09:12 PM
Are you kidding?! They love to see who are surfing on those sites.
They're not closing down anything.

Uhhhmmm - Yeah They will. No argument - You'll see...

That said - I'll just wait for Y'all to come round...

Archive - Archive - Archive...

:smoke:

metaw3
02-03-2010, 09:30 PM
I'm flabbagasted .... how far does the censureship go?? I was in the middle of a heated debate with a sceptic friend on Facebook and I cout and pasted Steven Greer's open letter to Obamma that was posted on the net last year and next thing....big alarm bells and I was instantly disabled and told the material was offensive bla bla .... what the F.....? Is this some kind of petty burocratic mistake with Key words ? or serious censership does any one know???? or had similer experiances????

I used Facebook a few months to post conspiracy stuff. Building websites is my job. I've seen many accounts being disabled during that time. They were all disabled by automated features to prevent spamming and abuse, but it was not (political) censorship from Facebook. It could have been another user reporting a post as offensive, but it was never because Facebook don't want people saying 911 was an inside job. Facebook has so many members that it requires algorithms for automated detection of abusive behavior. There are warnings before disabling accounts but they are not always obvious if you don't pay attention. The reason why so many people think Facebook censors political material is because they don't understand how these algorithms work, and when their account is disabled, they can't figure out why their last actions on the site triggered the algorithm, but it did. There's no conspiracy here. Yes Facebook does data mining, but it's for marketing and only for the police if you break the law. Posting conspiracy stuff on the net is not against the law (yet) and Facebook does not care if you do.

Dougall
02-03-2010, 10:27 PM
Sometimes I wonder if things like Facebook and twitter will will somehow raise the collective consciousness of humanity. All that rambling internal dialog. However I do think internal dialog needs to be shut out at times. I let the sound of my breathing be my dialog and think of nothing at all for a while. To be honest I know nothing of Facebook and Twitter, in fact I don't even own a cell Phone. It does seem strange that they monitor the content of your ideas on Facebook, just one more thing to get worked up about I guess. Pretty soon we'll all be lined up to receive the micro chip,and get a discount on goods and services. Then after the tipping point, when more people have it than not. the ones who don't want it will get an offer they can't refuse. The war on whatever must be won at all costs! Or not.

SteveX
02-03-2010, 11:39 PM
I used Facebook a few months to post conspiracy stuff. Building websites is my job. I've seen many accounts being disabled during that time. They were all disabled by automated features to prevent spamming and abuse, but it was not (political) censorship from Facebook. It could have been another user reporting a post as offensive, but it was never because Facebook don't want people saying 911 was an inside job. Facebook has so many members that it requires algorithms for automated detection of abusive behavior. There are warnings before disabling accounts but they are not always obvious if you don't pay attention. The reason why so many people think Facebook censors political material is because they don't understand how these algorithms work, and when their account is disabled, they can't figure out why their last actions on the site triggered the algorithm, but it did. There's no conspiracy here. Yes Facebook does data mining, but it's for marketing and only for the police if you break the law. Posting conspiracy stuff on the net is not against the law (yet) and Facebook does not care if you do.

At last... the voice of reason I wanted to say something ealier but the truth of it I don't know the tech to talk about it. Would I be correct in saying links with other links to porn or the like are auto rejected? I remember a forum where I tried in vain to post a picture of rockets hitting a tank. The darn thing was constantly auto rejected. Turns out the picture title triggered the auto lock. Picture was called Rockets hit....... read that again rocket s hit

Swanny
02-03-2010, 11:50 PM
Facebook does share a lot of good info between it's members. I've learn some interesting stuff there

SteveX
02-04-2010, 12:14 AM
AND another thing. Every computer has an ISP address. You can get rolling ISP routers BUT your Internet Company keeps a log. If the PTB wanted to know who posted such and such ... a quick call to your provider gets your name, address, bank details and full history of your web crawlings.

Also I was acquainted with a fellow, through an internet game, that worked at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). He had some dealings with wakco and that entire thing. He was under the American version of the "Official secrets act". This guy used to get drunk a lot. He hated himself because of his job. The most we got out of him, no matter how drunk he got, was he worked with the Internet and could read anybodies computer and e-mails worldwide. However, his job was confined to the USA.

I got the distinct (intuitive) impression that he was a patriot but hated himself for being part of what was really happening behind the scenes. He would drop vague reference to Americans not being informed. About, "if people really knew what happens". Hence being drunk most evenings.

metaw3
02-04-2010, 01:43 AM
Would I be correct in saying links with other links to porn or the like are auto rejected?

That's what Facebook would like to do. So there's a black list of sites, a black list of keywords, and I don't know if Facebook does it, but images can even be scanned to detect skin, breasts, etc. If your porn link still makes it through, eventually another member flags it and the lists are updated to auto reject your link the next time.

The main reason why people have their account disabled on Facebook is because they do too much, too fast. If you don't wait enough between accepting new friends, posting new status, commenting status, then you trigger algorithms that detect robots. First you get the captcha to slow you down. But good robots can get through captcha so if you still go too fast, you'll get a warning that your account will be automatically disabled if you don't slow down. I got it once. The warning is not obvious and easy to miss, especially in the middle of a heated debate.

mntruthseeker
02-04-2010, 02:30 AM
Yes there is a real big "blacklist" For months I would post a video or story but it would be removed. I got lots of emails bla bla but finally they just shut me down.

They monitor all of the internet for certain words and you become a target

Frank Samuel
02-04-2010, 02:47 AM
Facebook has become a corporate handy tool to spy on disgruntle employees and the like. Where I used to work two people got fired and one got reprimanded.
I was encourage to join facebook by the company I used to work for. Mmmm I wonder why !!! No I have not posted anything on my account and gee I guess I never will. I encourage my bosses to join project avalon instead.:lol3:

waitinginthewings
02-04-2010, 02:52 AM
Snopes is a disinformation website, they also stuck their nose in the Odigo affair of 9/11.

hmmmm I am not surprised....I had a hunch about it.:original:

Gnosis5
02-04-2010, 05:30 AM
Hey joine the club...............I got booted too for posting the video of the vet that was disclosing how many military men and women are AWOL


I have had many weird things happening to me also but I won't let them shut me up.

if you wish to send that particular link to me I will post it on my Facebook and see what happens from there, thanks.


Gnosis

shiftmonkey
02-04-2010, 11:04 AM
Yes, I have a Facebook account.
If you want my opinion, as an IT guy, here is what I recommend;
Drop Facebook! And drop Myspace!

Instead, just go down to the closest bus depot, and start licking toilet seats.
1. You will probably get fewer viruses.
2. Fewer Spyware bots.
3. You will also probably meet a better class of people.

Plain enuff for ya?

Fred
Thanks Fred! :mfr_lol::roll1:

Antonia
02-04-2010, 01:14 PM
Hi Gnosis.. this is the offending article... you can cut and paste if you like.. see what happens...

I don't think that there was actual face book people monitering my corrispondance I do believe it was key words... that sparked and automated shut down.... But that's censureship enough... but I don't get what offensive key words are here?? |Or the pornagraphic content??? best of luck.. Antonia






PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA





THIS BRIEFING CONTAINS SENSITIVE INFORMATION INTENDED FOR POTUS


BRIEFING DEVELOPED BY


STEVEN M. GREER MD

DIRECTOR

THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT

WWW.DISCLOSUREPROJECT.ORG







"Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change."

Robert F. Kennedy 1966 Speech

"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."

Albert Einstein




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence

The Disclosure Project

Steven M. Greer, MD, Director and Founder

www.DisclosureProject.org www.CSETI.org

Copyright 2009 Steven M. Greer, M.D.

January 23, 2009
Dear President Obama,


Since the mid-1950s, classified projects connected to extraterrestrial matters have operated outside of constitutionally required oversight and control by the President and Congress. This constitutes a grave and ongoing threat to US national security and global security and peace.

The implications of this subject are such that no aspect of life on Earth will be unaffected by its Disclosure. We are acutely aware that this subject is highly controversial and suffers from great social opprobrium within certain elite circles and within the mainstream media.

Indeed, secrecy on the subject has, in part, been maintained by a carefully orchestrated psychological nexus of ridicule, fear, intimidation and disinformation that makes it difficult for any public figure to openly address the matter.

Moreover, the 'bubble' of security and access restrictions that surround the Office of the President makes it very difficult for POTUS to receive accurate information and advice on the subject. The consequences of this secrecy, combined with the psychological aspects mentioned above, have ensured that none of your predecessors have been able to effectively manage this problem. This has led to an unacknowledged crisis that will be the greatest of your Presidency.

Because of this misguided secrecy, the wondrous new sciences related to advanced energy generation, propulsion and transportation have been withheld from the people. These advances include the generation of limitless clean energy from the so-called zero point energy field and quantum vacuum flux field from the space around us, and propulsion that has been termed (incorrectly) anti-gravity. The field of electromagnetic energy that is teeming all around us and which is embedded within the fabric of space/time can easily run all of the energy needs of the Earth - without pollution, oil, gas, coal, centralized utilities or nuclear power.

The disclosure of these sciences and their wise application during your first term as President is the most pressing matter before you. These sciences will create a true new energy economy allowing mankind to solve our most pressing problems of global warming, poverty and resource depletion.

The constellation of problems that include global warming, biosphere degradation, air pollution, energy security, Mid-East policy, a collapsing geo-economic order, growing disparity between the poor and rich of the world, over-population and human sustainability on Earth, to name but a few, are all interconnected and directly affected by the secrecy surrounding this subject. The solutions lie not in old thinking and technologies but in a new consciousness applying new sciences. These sciences were born in the late 19th and 20th centuries but were abandoned and suppressed due to the lust for power, greed and out of fear of unsettling the status quo.

It is time for a new Emancipation Declaration - one that frees all of humanity from the shackles of economic slavery that results from secret centralized power, corruption and global economic hegemony. The world will not find justice and peace so long as half of the world's population lives in poverty while the other half cannibalizes the Earth to maintain its standard of living. This dire situation can and must be transformed into a world of abundance, clean and plentiful energy and genuine sustainability. On this foundation, with these new sciences, technologies and a new consciousness, we can move forward as a people, united and in peace. Then and only then will we be welcome amongst the other civilizations of the cosmos.

That we are not alone in the universe is now a scientific given. That we have been visited already by advanced civilizations - whose interests here are likely ancient - is controversial. However, in my discussions with European, Vatican, Canadian and other leaders around the world, a growing consensus exists that we have been visited and the time for disclosing this information is long past due. More importantly, an appropriate diplomatic initiative is needed to communicate with these extraterrestrial visitors within a framework of universal peace, free from the past dominance of militarism and paranoia.

Insofar as upwards of 80% of the American people think that 'UFOs' are real, and that some aspect of the government is lying to them about it, continued secrecy redounds only to the benefit of the precious few who profit from such secrecy. This secrecy undermines the credibility of the US and other governments, and allows the cancer of unchecked covert power - forewarned by President Eisenhower in his last address to the nation - to metastasize throughout the world. It now threatens the very life of Earth.

Moreover, there exists a secret, 'unacknowledged' operation that has used very advanced electromagnetic weapon systems to track, target, and on occasion, but with increasing accuracy, down extraterrestrial vehicles. This reckless behavior constitutes an existential threat to all of mankind and must be reined in immediately.

The so-called MJ-12 or Majestic group that controls this subject operates without the consent of the people, or the oversight of the President and Congress. It functions as a transnational government unto itself, answerable to no one. All checks and balances have been obliterated. While as a governing entity it stands outside of the rule of law, its influence reaches into many governments, corporations, agencies, media and financial interests. Its corrupting influence is profound and, indeed, it has operated as a very powerful and embedded global RICO whose power to date remains unchecked.

Upwards of $100 billion of USG funds go annually into this operation, also known as the 'black budget' of the United States - enough to provide universal health care to every man, woman and child in America.

When I first briefed Director of Central Intelligence James Woolsey on this matter in December of 1993, only a third of this governing group was in favor of what we were recommending: Disclosure of the fact that we are not alone in the universe and the careful release of advanced energy generation systems that would replace oil, gas, coal and nuclear power. Sources now inform me that upwards of two-thirds of this group now support such an initiative.

Interests in Europe, the Vatican and Asia, especially France and China, are urging Disclosure. If the United States does not move forward, these other interests will, and America will be left behind and become increasingly irrelevant in the world. This cannot be allowed to happen.

The European and Asian arenas will move with or without US involvement at some point in the very near future, as well they should. Six decades of secrecy is enough.

We are also morally obliged to warn you of an existing highly secretive plan to use advanced technologies to hoax an 'alien attack' on Earth. There exists within the direct control of this Majestic group assets capable of launching such a false flag operation and virtually every person on Earth, as well as most leaders, would be deceived by it. Components of this operation have been tested on the public over the past 50 years and include, but are not limited to:

Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs) - these are advanced anti-gravity aircraft that have been fully operational since at least the late 1950s to early 1960s. Many so-called UFO reports by civilians and military personnel are of such ARVs. They constitute an unacknowledged or 'black' Air Force and these ARVs are capable of extraordinary speed, maneuverability and lift/hover. By 2009, these technologies had gone through many generations of refinement and, if deployed, could easily hoax or simulate an Extraterrestrial Vehicle (ETV). (Note that a UFO is a nonspecific term and could be either an ARV or an ETV.)

Programmed Life Forms (PLFs) - these are well-crafted alien-appearing creatures that, while completely manmade, often deceive unknowing people as 'aliens'. The stagecraft, genetics and other sciences associated with these creatures are beyond the scope of this brief, but are very well developed. I have personally been briefed by multiple independent corroborating sources regarding the development and deployment of PLFs. These creatures, used in conjunction with ARVs, have convincingly launched the pop culture fervor over 'alien abductions'. Victims of such paramilitary human-controlled abductions genuinely believe that they have been abducted by 'aliens' and often have physical stigmata and 'implants' to prove it. These implants are also manmade and we have information about the laboratory and corporation making these items. (See attached documents)

Chemical, optical and electromagnetic systems to assist with creating an alteration in awareness are components of the 'stagecraft' used to hoax an 'alien' event.
The vast majority of information in the public domain on the UFO subject is, therefore, carefully orchestrated disinformation designed to prepare the populace, as well as our leaders, for a non-existent 'alien threat'. The psychological warfare implications of this were described in the 1950s in CIA documents and are further elucidated by other documents and testimony. No less a figure than Wernher Von Braun warned of this cosmic deception.

The objective of such a false flag operation is the creation of an enemy in space that would unite the world behind a global military power against such an 'alien threat'. President Reagan and other leaders have been targeted with such disinformation, which is designed to secure their silence or cooperation with the agenda of secrecy and space weaponization. The President needs to be careful to avoid being similarly deceived.

After very careful review of all data and documents and after interviewing hundreds of top secret witnesses, we have concluded that the actual extraterrestrial presence is distinctly non-hostile. In light of the reckless and aggressive nature of many of our covert military actions and the extraordinarily advanced technologies that permit interstellar travel by these extraterrestrial civilizations, if they were hostile, human civilization would have been dealt with decisively at the dawn of the nuclear era.

These visitors, however, appear to be very concerned with unchecked human hostility, war-making and weapons of mass destruction, combined with our early potential for space travel. The tendency for people to engage in anthropocentric projection leads many to assume a threat where none exists. It is more likely that humanity may be seen as a threat to the cosmic order, insofar as we have failed to restrain the expansion of weapons of mass destruction while attempting to push farther and farther into space. Moreover, we have failed to initiate an enlightened and peaceful diplomatic mission to these extraterrestrial visitors. This needs to change immediately.

Disclosure of this subject must be very carefully planned and positioned as a hopeful and elevating moment in human history. A poorly positioned Disclosure that demonizes these visitors or frightens the public may prove more harmful than secrecy.

As you may know, my uncle was the senior project engineer who worked on the Lunar Module that took Neil Armstrong to the moon. The reason we were not welcome in space then is because the passport to traverse the universe is a stable peaceful world civilization that will go into space united and in peace.

In this regard, world peace and universal peace are two sides of the same coin. Once we vow to live peacefully on Earth and go into space only in peace, we will be welcome with open arms. Until then, a type of cosmic quarantine exists - rightly - around the Earth.

Unfortunately, the media and movie industry are highly penetrated by interests loyal to the Majestic group, which has used the media to, in turns, ridicule the subject and present terrifying images of 'alien invasion'. In short, the populace is almost thoroughly brainwashed on the matter, and this presents a further hurdle that must be carefully taken into account when planning Disclosure.

Nevertheless, the status quo can no longer hold and fundamental change is urgently needed. To this end, we urge the President to undertake a number of initiatives as soon as possible. We recommend that the President:

Appoint a Special Presidential Task Force to investigate this matter, identify covert facilities and assets (see attached summary) and reassert Executive control over these projects;

Identify and immediately stand-down operations that are covertly targeting Extraterrestrial Vehicles, weaponizing space and engaging in rogue disinformation projects;

Develop response plans to minimize the risks related to potential false flag operations that intend to hoax a hostile 'alien' presence, including preparations with military, intelligence and international institutions;

Form The Council on Interplanetary Relations to coordinate a peaceful, forward looking and non-militarized response to the extraterrestrial presence. The Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (see www.CSETI.org) has an 18 year ongoing project to establish such contact and can assist with this process. CSETI, working with other governments and world figures, will form such a Council if the US government decides not to do so within the next 12 months;

Immediately fund the study, development and careful release of those new energy technologies that can quickly replace fossil fuels and nuclear power. (See www.TheOrionProject.org). Note that these technologies, since they acquire energy from the zero point energy field of space/time, will allow for the retirement of the electric energy grid. We are in possession of documents and information regarding key facilities and assets connected to these technologies (see attached documents). We recommend that the propulsion and transportation aspects of these technologies (electro-magneto-gravitic systems) be released at a later time when the world security situation has improved;

Establish high-ranking liaisons with Congress, the UN and other governments to coordinate these projects and the release of the new energy technologies;

The National Security Council needs to form a section specifically addressing the international, interplanetary and macroeconomic implications of this disclosure and urgently prepare for the release of these technologies;

The Orion Project (www.TheOrionProject.org) has identified key scientists to assist with the development of these new energy technologies. They have agreed to work with us, but are being prevented from doing so, one by a compartmented operation (TS SCI) to which he is assigned. We request an action by the Office of the President to specifically permit them to work with us with the full support and protection of the President. We cannot over-emphasize how important it is that these people be assigned to this critical task: In less than 1 year, we would have new energy generators developed to run America free from oil, gas, coal or nuclear power.

President Obama, we stand ready to assist you and your Administration with these and other tasks, and pledge to you our full support. I will personally fulfill any request from your office with the utmost integrity, discretion and confidentiality.

Please be assured of my heartfelt prayers on your behalf for your guidance, protection and success as you begin your historic role as President of the United States.

Respectfully,
Steven M. Greer, MD
Director
The Disclosure Project

SteveX
02-04-2010, 02:56 PM
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I'm not making excuses for Facebook but the body of the above text is massive. I know at least 2 sites that wouldn't allow that. You would have to split it into 2 parts. That said, I note that the text contains 5 links. Some of those links contain many other links.

Just saying
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