Plane intentionally crashed into Gov. Buliding - Austin Texas

[shiftmonkey]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but I'm putting up because I thought people here might be interested in a plane being intentionally crashed into a government building.

For those who notice numbers, check out the time stamps on each article.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fears-raised-that-austin-texas-plane-crash-was-deliberate-attack-on-irs-or-cia-2010-2

At this link you can read what they are labeling as the pilot's "insane" manifesto. Read it... it doesn't sound so insane to me:

http://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-andrew-stacks-insane-manifesto-2010-2

[Shadowstalker]

Ya I saw it on the news channels and such, i find it highly symbolic myself, that poor guy.

[Spiralmind]

I read no hint of insanity in his writings. However this act of violence will only serve the criminal's purposes. I'm sure the corporate media will put a spin on this that only serves them.


:lightsabre:

[lindabaker]

If the manifesto is really Joe Stack's, then he has been given a "voice." It makes me sad that he did it in this way...and I don't think he was insane...just driven to the overwhelming desire to make the insanity of our present situation a "talking point." For that, good for him. I can totally relate to what he said. I know that most Americans are scared sh!tless that big bro will find some way to punish them for nothing...we are not asleep, guys, we are afraid. There is sometimes wisdom in keeping your head low. This, of course, is to the benefit of the ones controlling and sucking away our only savings. I feel like I'm living in a bad science fiction movie. Or reading about the communists in the 1950's and 1960's in the history books. But it's all too true. God help us all.

[Gevaudan]

Repost...Sorry 'bout that.

This is the man's supposed suicide letter. It speaks for itself:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/18/stack.letter.pdf?hpt=T1

[Stargazer1965]

Oh my God.....How sad.........:tears:

[THE eXchanger]

his 6 page letter

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html

(likely an idea to post it all - since, likely it will be taken down too)

[aroundthetable]

The man writes very well, and doesnt come across as an aimless killer or as suicidal. So at the risk of sounding all conspiratorial, something doesnt smell right with this whole thing. So who will benefit? Yall know the answer to that one.

[Firstlook]

The man writes very well, and doesnt come across as an aimless killer or as suicidal. So at the risk of sounding all conspiratorial, something doesnt smell right with this whole thing. So who will benefit? Yall know the answer to that one.

I am going to have to agree. I will not speculate as to the exact meaning of all this. It will show eventually. But Just from the looks of the reporting, I feel that this is something involved with agency help.

peace:original:

[tone3jaguar]

The whole thing stinks if you ask me. Crashes a plane at full speed into a building and only one person is killed? Does not add up. Lets see here, where have we heard this before.

Man becomes disgruntled with the American Government. Then that man battles with the American Government for a few decades. Then he flies a plane into the side of a building.

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR?

If they role out any new laws against speaking out against the government because if this then you will know it that it stinks to high heaven.

[tone3jaguar]

You realize they could now classify anyone who speaks out against the policies of the government as a terrorist now right?

[Shadowstalker]

You realize they could now classify anyone who speaks out against the policies of the government as a terrorist now right?

They have already done that,

But in all retrospect they could be using this as an axcuse to over tax austin again to do what ever., last time they raised taxes was to the smoker and claimed they needed the money to help build up the school system, so i waited 6 months down the road then took a trip to my sons school, the only change i saw where flat screen tv's in the main office with school and local comercials on it and one extra in school police officer.

It looks like a local version of 911 to me.

[shybastid]

Sad..... but the guy was no dummy.
You cannot do a suicide on a Life Insurance policy and collect, without the premium going 2 years.
So.... To cover his debt and take care of his family..
He
A) Torched the house to collect on the house insurance.
B) Commited suicide so his wife and child could collect on the life insurance premium.
C) Showed IRS he was unhappy with their Gestapo tactics thinking he was destroyed.

I don't know what the IRS will collect with his wife being the inheriter.
I don't know his estate planning.
I really dont think he torched his house and died without thinking a little farther into it.
I will not even argue the morality of it.
I believe that's it motive.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

just read on wearechange that mainstream news is suggesting this is the work of a "tea party" extremist

honestly, the guy's writing is not insane. it's totally rational and makes perfect sense.

Do I agree with his decision? Not really, but I can't believe the media is taking THAT angle with this!

[shybastid]

Agreed.

[orthodoxymoron]

Alex Jones to the rescue! :mad3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pStYTRvOT0M :mad3: http://www.infowars.com/eyewitness-hazmat-teams-in-place-before-plane-crash/ :mad3:

In the second link...the young lady says that the plane was low enough to see the pilot...but she didn't see the pilot. Hmmm. She also said that fire and hazmat vehicles were ready to go close by before the plane crashed. Hmmm. Is there confirmation of the positively identified pilot's body being removed from the scene? Did anyone see the pilot flying the plane before the crash? How about the radar data? Traffic controller statements, etc? Probably just a lone nut. Why is it always a lone nut? Hmmmmm. :sneaky2:

[Humble Janitor]

It doesn't matter if he makes sense or not.

He chose a very poor way to get it across and it should not be condoned.

[enemyofNWO]

It doesn't matter if he makes sense or not.

He chose a very poor way to get it across and it should not be condoned.

I think the guy is a hero . People here have forgotten that when the laws of the government are unjust , the citizen has the right to take arms against that government . That' s what happened at the time of the civil war in the USA . Now the situation is reaching the point of civil war . The signs are there for everybody to see . People are stocking up on food , ammunitions and weapons . In the original revolution only a small percentage of the population took arms and succeeded . If only 5 percent of the population participate to the new revolution that will be 15 million people that is many time the size of the US army . Of course guerrilla tactics will be used and small independent teams will wreck for good the government's ability to govern and collect taxes . People should do well to see the movie " The battle of Algiers " by the Italian filmmaker Pontecorvo .
I believe that a lot of people in the world feel the same on those issues .
People should read the comments people have made on this issue on the "infowar" website to get a feel about the reality .
I do not know what the 2012 will bring but I think that when the government policies are to reduce the population , the population has the divine right to exterminate the government leaders .

[orthodoxymoron]

This time it's an infowar. Running in the streets sucks. I think we're about half-way through this infowar...and it has everything to do with 'disclosure'. Alex Jones is a gutsy, clear-thinking crusader who I admire greatly. But his style is not my style. I don't listen to his show much anymore...because I don't wish to program myself with anger and turmoil. I really don't think violence is the answer at all...at home or abroad. Even if it was the answer...the technology out there is utterly devastating. Consider the AA-12. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnrizaO-X00 That diabolical device would make quite a mess...wouldn't it? Of course...if foreign troops and extraterrestrials come marching down my street...who knows?

:mad3::mad3::mad3:

[enemyofNWO]

Greetings Orthy ,

Yes i know what you mean . I bought the Half Past human reports and the picture painted there is very bleak and i can see the signs . I agree that the underbelly of all the problems is " Disclosure " but who knows if we will ever see it . In the meantime the conditioning of the population continues with Hollywood . I wish it was possible to achieve a good outcome a la Gandhi , but the NWO will never relinquish their control peacefully . They will fight and will be exterminated . History has a habit of repeating itself over and over . I would not be surprised if another Kristallnacht is in the pipeline . After all a certain group has been thrown out from over 60 countries in the last 2000 years .

[Halvor]

Apparently Andrew Joseph Stack struck a nerve with a lot of people, despite the spin from several sources attempting to portray him as crazy and to marginalize all who sympathize with him. Within hours following the plane crash and the spread of information about his manifesto, dozens of Facebook support groups for Stack were created. However, these were swiftly closed down by Facebook. I have not yet seen the argument for doing so, although at least two news outlets have followed up on this development:

Facebook takes down groups supporting Austin crash pilot (http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Facebook_takes_down_groups_supporting_Austin_crash _pilot?dpl_id=156591) at Wikinews
Kamakazi pilot Joe Stack, who crashed plane into Austin building, hailed by anti-government groups (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/02/19/2010-02-19_kamakazi_pilot_hailed_by_loonies_as_antigov_her o.html) at New York Daily News

[lindabaker]

When the Tibetan monk burned himself alive protesting the Vietnam war, no one called him a lone nut.

[Majorion]

I think the bigger picture here, and what this event signifies more than anything, is the increasing civil unrest conflict and instability in America, especially since and after 9/11.

If you look at all the comments at the bottom of these mainstream articles, you'll find people fighting over whether its left or right and which political party is to blame.

[enemyofNWO]

I think the bigger picture here, and what this event signifies more than anything, is the increasing civil unrest conflict and instability in America, especially since and after 9/11.

If you look at all the comments at the bottom of these mainstream articles, you'll find people fighting over whether its left or right and which political party is to blame.

Really it does not matter to which party the pilot of the plane belonged . The parties are divisions of the population and we know who and what that suits .
What is important is his gesture of defiance and rebellion . Now about Facebook , as we have seen i, t can be used to the advantage of the people at large . It so happens consistently the owners of that secret service outfit might be forced to close it . Wouldn't that be great ?

[Stargazer1965]

Really it does not matter to which party the pilot of the plane belonged . The parties are divisions of the population and we know who and what that suits .
What is important is his gesture of defiance and rebellion . Now about Facebook , as we have seen i, t can be used to the advantage of the people at large . It so happens consistently the owners of that secret service outfit might be forced to close it . Wouldn't that be great ?
ENWO....

I had to sit down and think about this one...I spoke to the wife last night and her exact words were "The blood suckers got what they deserved"

For she is a dainty flower

Not really...they were folks going to work...trying to scrape a living out...feeding their families

Just like you and me

Yeah they work for the MAN...but don't a lot of us do...A company owned by a company...owned by a Rockefeller

If he burned himself in front of the building....then that is an act of rebellion and holds a statement.

Don't take folks with you....it's eternally selfish.

But it should never get to the point it did....Take all that energy and funnel it into making a difference.

In my opinion...he took the easy ride out

Staying

Now there's the hard part

Peace Y'all

[enemyofNWO]

ENWO....


"If he burned himself in front of the building....then that is an act of rebellion and holds a statement.

Don't take folks with you....it's eternally selfish.

Doing that would not have had the same impact . The target was the building of the bloodsuckers which is a symbol of of the criminal government . The victims were unintended although a person should expect that an act like that would have unexpected victims . However the judgment of the plane pilot was clouded by his extreme personal situation ( losing his job and the house ) . His sacrifice will probably have an impact on the psyche of the population at large .

[orthodoxymoron]

When the Tibetan monk burned himself alive protesting the Vietnam war, no one called him a lone nut.

I wasn't calling this man a 'lone nut'. I'm just not a big fan of the Warren Commission, the 9/11 Commission, and those who castigate conspiracy theorists. These events...among others...have made me rather suspicious of 'official' stories...which often involve a 'lone nut'.

[shybastid]

I'm not sure how "easy" it is to fly a plane into building at 200 miles an hour.
I've had my share of pianos dropped on me in my life.
Rebuilding wealth is so much harder then building it from scratch again.
I certainly would'nt "take" someone else with me when I go though.
That's kinda rude.

[Majorion]

I wasn't calling this man a 'lone nut'. I'm just not a big fan of the Warren Commission, the 9/11 Commission, and those who castigate conspiracy theorists. These events...among others...have made me rather suspicious of 'official' stories...which often involve a 'lone nut'.

Hmm, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Frankly I'm surprised no one among us has suggested or even considered the possibility that this was a false flag event and the man and his letter may be a fake persona and not even existent, or maybe that the guy exists but was "coerced" or brainwashed to the point of violence.

Good one orthodoxy, 9/11 is the first thing that comes to mind, I've been thinking about this for a while today, maybe this is a first "minor" phase as part of a larger plan and bigger phases to introduce more false flags like this in America in the next few years.

Hell, just a theory. :original:

[Shadowstalker]

Either way, the out come for the masses will not suit well.

[Majorion]

Either way, the out come for the masses will not suit well.
I don't live in the U.S and haven't been there for many years.

But just an outside perspective, they look getting closer and closer to Martial Law type governance. God Forbid.

[Spiralmind]

I just received this link in my email:

Please bare in mind that this is a personal blog

http://wakeup1776.blogspot.com/2010/02/i-dont-buy-official-story-of-joe-stack.html

:nono:

[Jonah]

I don't live in the U.S and haven't been there for many years.

But just an outside perspective, they look getting closer and closer to Martial Law type governance. God Forbid.

How so?

The crime rate all over the states are going down...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Not sure why some people are feeling this way... (probably alot of TV)

But there has been a great peace growing where I live....

Each see more of it everyday...

There is something to be said about the things that people give energy too.. but that is for another thread...

To those who lost there lives.... welcome home..

[Rocky_Shorz]

As I said a few days ago, "We the People" have had enough...

Where is Ron Paul who has always been in favor of shutting down the IRS? Why isn't he stepping forward making a point of what the IRS did to this man was wrong?

Where are the leaders of the tea party standing up to make this man a hero for his actions. The man should be looked at as a Martyr for their cause?

Oh yeah they aren't true patriots wanting changes for the country to free the people from Tyranny, they are just a political party using a symbol of American History for their own gain...

The truth is he fought for thirty years inside the law and it did nothing, he needed to make a statement so big that it would be spoke of for the next hundred years.

He has become a true Martyr...

Yes the media who first showed him sympathy twisted the story so by the end of the day were pushing how he was crazy. But all of us know he wasn't, he was sane to the moment he planted the plane into an alphabet agency...

I don't mind speaking to all of you flat out, because I am already on the National terrorist watch list for pushing to produce automobiles that use no gasoline.

I am an advocate of true energy and they even had the IRS come after me...

but I am not a Government paid employee so by law I really don't owe any taxes and if they pushed I could ask for a full refund of everything I paid through my life.

It was amazing how quickly they backed off when I brought it up...

There is no question by anyone reading what I share that I am angry with the system, my bloodline goes back to Washington the Father of this country, and it is boiling.

I have no power or money to push against a corrupt system, but I do have a voice and a forum that allows me to share what needs changing. It is followed closely by the alphabet agencies so I already know the people I want an audience from is reading what I write.

My emails are monitored and some erased right before my eyes, my phone lines are tapped the websites I visit are monitored. Big Brother is all over my ass... They even hacked my system modifying Internet Explorer so I couldn't speak in this forum, but I just opened Firefox to keep talking...

I hope Fulford is right and that the veils are about to come down and the world is about to change for the better.

A few piddly trillions isn't going to stop the worlds poverty, but if the Vatican and Mormons opened their vaults and liquidated gold holdings while it is at $1100/oz to give to the people...

Now that... Would make a difference...

remember all the Rothchild's hold is a pile of paper... :sneaky2:

[orthodoxymoron]

I keep saying that this is an infowar...and that violence is almost always wrong. I assume that every word I type on the internet is monitored and recorded...and that every word I speak into my cell-phone is monitored and recorded. Sometimes I say 'hi guys'! I even assume that they go inside my house when I'm not home. (they always forget to flush the toilet) A certain amount of monitoring is understandable and even expected...but I think they've gone way too far...and if violence kicks in...they'll go even further...and we'll all be under marshal law...with a suspended Constitution. Actually...why would that be a problem...the U.N. Charter already supercedes the U.S. Constitution...doesn't it? These are the times which try men's (and women's) souls. We need cool-heads and evolutionary change for the better...rather than hot-heads and revolutionary change for the worse. I think the bad guys and gals want us to get really fired-up...and start running in the streets with torches and pitchforks. Then they can really crack-down on all of us useless feeders. We the People of Earth are the New Elites. We need to start thinking and acting like it. Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom trumps the New World Order aka the Old World Disorder Demonic Theocracy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFvtLhxmx9U
Presenter: The Offspring
Album: Conspiracy of One
Lyrics:
If I had a perfect day
I would have it start this way
Open up the fridge and have a tall boy
Yeah
Then I'd meet up with my friends
Head out to the game again
We don't even really care who wins
Now excitement seems to grow
When we're hangin' with the bro's
When we're chillin' and we pound a case of Stroh's
Now the game is cool to see
You can "High 5" on TV
Count the riot on the one two three
Operation is in sight
And the field is open wide
When you break it then you know you're still alive
If the cops don't make you pay
And you make your getaway
Then you know
That's one fine day
On that day before we're through
We could torch a car or two
Then have ourselves another tall boy
Yeah
Water hoses and batons
That's the real game that's on
I don't really give a **** who wins
I believe it's my god-given right
To destroy everything in my sight
Cause it never gets dull, it never gets old
The only thing it gets is more bold
Drinkin', fightin', going to the game
In our world it's a way to stay sane
If you're asking me
To have it my way, I'd say that's
One fine day

Hi guys! Duly noted? Top of the Red List? Damn! I was afraid of that. Can't we just all get along? Don't vaccinate me bro! Ahhhhhhh!!!!

:mad3::nono::tongue2::lightsabre::lightsabre:

[777 The Great Work]

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IRS=IRIS OR PINEAL GLAND=EYE LAND

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[Lost soul]

Gerald Celente's prediction of about a year ago said in four years time, (three years now), there will be a tax revolt. The tea parties were the first signs - all of which were ignored by Washington. Overt acts of anger such as the pilot who had a long standing grudge against the IRS culminating in his suicide attack on a building that housed the IRS and a lot of innocent non-IRS tenants may become more common. Celente warned that as people lose things (money, house, job), they have nothing to lose.

Spiritually, we were told that those not in tune with the changing energy would go nuts. Stay balanced.

[777 The Great Work]

ATTENTION TO DETAILS--HERE'S JOE STACK WITH HIS AXE :lmao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:
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[Majorion]

How so?
The crime rate all over the states are going down...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
Not sure why some people are feeling this way... (probably alot of TV)
Hi Jonah,

Your assumption about watching TV is totally off. In fact what I'm being told directly by my American friends in the U.S is that almost anything is considered "domestic terrorism" now. I'm told that even a "family quibble" could be considered as such.

Granted each state is probably somewhat different, maybe your particular locale (California is it?) is more "lax" than others. Though I'm confident of the information I get from certain people.

I don't know why you're referring to crime rates, because for one what I'm suggesting has little or nothing to do with crime rates, and the other thing is wikipedia is mostly inaccurate and unreliable source anyway. Frankly I'm quite surprised people still use that as a reference. The only thing worse than TV is wikipedia. :original:

[Humble Janitor]

How so?

The crime rate all over the states are going down...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Not sure why some people are feeling this way... (probably alot of TV)

But there has been a great peace growing where I live....

Each see more of it everyday...


There are too many people on here with a vested interest in martial law. I don't know why but there's no doubt that it exists. People actively want chaos on here.

[Humble Janitor]

I think the guy is a hero . People here have forgotten that when the laws of the government are unjust , the citizen has the right to take arms against that government .

You forgot that his actions killed someone. is he now a martyr for this foolish "tea party" movement?

There's a right way and a wrong way to do things and this is definitely the wrong way.

That' s what happened at the time of the civil war in the USA . Now the situation is reaching the point of civil war . The signs are there for everybody to see . People are stocking up on food , ammunitions and weapons.

Then why is the crime rate going down across the country? I'm not seeing it. It must all be in your head.

In the original revolution only a small percentage of the population took arms and succeeded . If only 5 percent of the population participate to the new revolution that will be 15 million people that is many time the size of the US army . Of course guerrilla tactics will be used and small independent teams will wreck for good the government's ability to govern and collect taxes .

You act as if taxes are the worst thing the U.S government has imposed upon us. You're forgetting two unjust wars in the past decade, plus lots of other nasty stuff. Taxes are nothing compared to other things our government has done.

You're playing right into their hands if you go through with this "revolution" of yours. But hey, you can't stop the willing.

[Majorion]

There are too many people on here with a vested interest in martial law.
I hope you're not suggesting that I actually have some vested interest just because I brought up the subject. Far from it friend.

[Humble Janitor]

I hope you're not suggesting that I actually have some vested interest just because I brought up the subject. Far from it friend.

I've actually seen worse, especially a certain poster that the moderators love to shield from our criticisms.

[Majorion]

I've actually seen worse, especially a certain poster that the moderators love to shield from our criticisms.

lol...I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about.

Anyway apologies for the off topic friends.

[enemyofNWO]

You forgot that his actions killed someone. is he now a martyr for this foolish "tea party" movement?

There's a right way and a wrong way to do things and this is definitely the wrong way.



Then why is the crime rate going down across the country? I'm not seeing it. It must all be in your head.



You act as if taxes are the worst thing the U.S government has imposed upon us. You're forgetting two unjust wars in the past decade, plus lots of other nasty stuff. Taxes are nothing compared to other things our government has done.

You're playing right into their hands if you go through with this "revolution" of yours. But hey, you can't stop the willing.

There are people who believe in " the foolish tea party movement " and the the ones that sit and talk about peace in a world where all the civil rights are erased . I am lucky i do not reside in the USA , however I am subjected to daily gangstalking, monitoring etc . So I got nothing to lose by speaking my mind . In a world where the politicians speak about human rights but do not apply them , their policies caused over on million dead in Iraq alone . So when you hint at the santity of life be aware that to the crims in government one life equal one bullet , that's how much life is worth .

There are right ways and wrong ways of doing things ? Who can say what is right and what is wrong ? The government crims ? Or some ascended nincompoop ? Or the bloodsuckers in the Vatican ?

The crime rate is low ? There are statistic and lies . The manipulated statistics say that the economy is recovering . Ah Ah .

You mention " unjust taxes " . But with the taxes also come the fact that the wishes of the citizens are ignored . The system puts in leaders that after the election ignore all the promises they made to the electorate . No representation and wars of conquests in your name .

I am just saying what I see the future will be there . Just wait when the proverbial brown stuff hits the fan and then we can restart this conversation .
Be well
Pessimistic enemy

[Rocky_Shorz]

The sad part is when the brown stuff hits the fan, we most likely won't be able to restart this conversation...

The time for discussion and action is now while we still have voices...

[Humble Janitor]

Enemy,

I still think you're full of **** but it's all fine and dandy. This forum attracts people from different backgrounds.

I just don't see any justification for what the man did, crashing his plane and killing someone in the process.

That's for people who refuse to get involved and MAKE the changes they want to see. You can bitch about the government and crash into them but that's not going to change anything. They are just going to crack down even more. You make change by challenging those in power, head to head, face to face.

[enemyofNWO]

Enemy,

I still think you're full of **** but it's all fine and dandy. This forum attracts people from different backgrounds.

I just don't see any justification for what the man did, crashing his plane and killing someone in the process.

That's for people who refuse to get involved and MAKE the changes they want to see. You can bitch about the government and crash into them but that's not going to change anything. They are just going to crack down even more. You make change by challenging those in power, head to head, face to face.


Everybody has his way of dealing with things . That is what i know . For me
people can do what they like but nothing will change if at least a decent minority of people don't take action . I have no faith that a sufficient number of people will wake up in time and will stop cooperating with the PTB .
So who am I to say that crashing a plane into that building is a criminal act ? If the US government can organize wars under false pretenses , certainly people are justified in crashing their planes into government buildings . When a government behaves like the enemy of the citizens , they have the holy right to take arms against the government . It happened many times in the long human history . Be well

[Stargazer1965]

Everybody has his way of dealing with things . That is what i know . For me
people can do what they like but nothing will change if at least a decent minority of people don't take action . I have no faith that a sufficient number of people will wake up in time and will stop cooperating with the PTB .
So who am I to say that crashing a plane into that building is a criminal act ? If the US government can organize wars under false pretenses , certainly people are justified in crashing their planes into government buildings . When a government behaves like the enemy of the citizens , they have the holy right to take arms against the government . It happened many times in the long human history . Be well
You know Enemy...I used to think as you...but as I thought and looked.

I go up and give the Louisville Slugger treatment to the head of the local congressman.

He's dead ...I'm covered with brain matter and blood.

And I did not change a thing.

I actually supported the other side....I played right into their hands.

Even though I'm sane...took an ink blot test right before the act...paid my taxes

I just gave ammo to the PTB to put in the gun to hold against my kid's head.

No ...that's not the way

Gentle ...unstoppable pressure for a better tomorrow

Peace Y'all

[orthodoxymoron]

The "Falling Down" syndrome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Q_nbw2Xvo is a very real and very present danger. Here's the first part of the full movie "Falling Down". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcKvq81-1I&feature=related It's worth taking a very thoughtful look at. We seem to be on the precipice in so many ways. Millions or even Billions of people are on the edge. Life is hard. Things go wrong. People are aggravated. People are frustrated. People are disillusioned. People go broke. People get $crewed. People get hurt. And sometimes...when they've lost everything...they lose it. I really like the police and military people I come in contact with on a daily basis...but they may find themselves in the middle of an almost impossible situation. I hope not...but I worry, and worry, and worry...and I'll bet that they do to.

More Offspring! Go Noodles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPzpsJEf8yo&NR=1
Presenter: The Offspring
Album: Conspiracy of One
Lyrics:

Gotta sing a song, And it goes like this

Somewhere the time was right
Could've been gone in ten
This world is hard to fight
Hitting you once, hit it again
To know the way it feels
Everyone gets knocked down
When you get up it's real
Taking it back, turn it around

Get on it, up on it, get on it
Wouldn't wanna be you
Get on it, up on it, get on it
No one's gonna free you
You know when you're keeping it slow
Matter where you wanna go
Wouldn't wanna be you
Get on it, up on it
It's on when you're living in chaos

Somewhere along the line
Things get chipped away
This place keeps going down
Get a little worse every day
I see the hate and greed
Swear it's a messed up town
Embrace the pain and see
Taking in back, turn it around

Get on it, up on it, get on it
Wouldn't wanna be you
Get on it, up on it, get on it
No one's gonna free you
You know when you're keeping it slow
Matter where you wanna go
Wouldn't wanna be you
Get on it, up on it
It's on

Falling,
Falling,
Falling,
Falling..

Ya ya ya
Ya ya ya
Ya ya ya
Ya ya ya

Gotta sing a song, man it goes like this

Somewhere the time was right
Could've been gone in ten
This world is hard to fight
Hitting you once, hit it again
To know the way it feels
Everyone gets knocked down
When you get up it's real

Falling,
Falling,
Falling,
Falling..
(Ya ya ya)
Get on it, up on it, get on it
(Ya ya ya)
Get on it, up on it, get on it
No one's gonna free you
Get on it, up on it, get on it
(Ya ya ya)

:mad3:Namaste:mad3:

[metaw3]

I'm starting to see articles in the French Canadian MSM asking if the Tea Party movement is a sect. What's interesting is that the journalist removed the article before it could be read, but it was too late to prevent the title from appearing in my RSS reader:

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/hetu/2010/02/21/le-mouvement-tea-party-est-il-une-secte/


The title is "Is the Tea Party movement a sect?" and there is no article. Was it removed because it was too edgy? We'll see if he reposts it later or not. His preceeding article was about the Austin plane crash so this latest one might have been a commentary about the pilot and his political message.

[enemyofNWO]

"Désolé, aucun article ne correspond à vos critères. "

I am sorry no article correspond to the search .

It is obvious that the article in question was pulled . What is important about this incident that some people have not grasped is this . This is one of the very few times when an individual has targeted a building full of government officials. This is the reason why the creeps in government are agitated . They see this as a sign of things to come in the near future . The specter of the lone wolf acting on his own or supported by very few people using no phones , no internet , no radio communications ,just hit and run guerrilla warfare . Impossible to penetrate and extremely hard to eradicate . So far the terrorist acts against civilians in the US and Europe have been perpetrated by the government terrorist or people controlled by them . For example 9/11 , London , Bali ect .
So I believe that if any future terrorist act has innocent civilians victims , the responsible people are the different alphabet soup agencies starting from CIA , Mossad , MI6 , NSA etc . But if the victims are spooks or government employees in that case the " terrorist act " is actually the result of an awakening population feeling pis@@@ off. In short I will never believe any story about "terrorists " when the victims are civilians .

[observer]

The latest info update from Alex on the Joseph Stack link to 9/11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9sdYhAuG2g&NR=1

[orthodoxymoron]

The latest info update from Alex on the Joseph Stack link to 9/11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9sdYhAuG2g&NR=1

Darn it observer...I just watched this...and was going to post it...but you beat me to it. That information blew me away. I had suspected something screwy from the beginning (see earlier posts)...but this really points to something major. Alex is so quick and brave. I'm slow and timid. I guess it takes all kinds. I admire Alex...but sometimes he scares me.

:original: Namaste :wink2: Constitutional :wink2: Responsible :wink2: Freedom :original: