Steven Greer/CSETI takes first ET Photo

[gscraig]

Hello All,

I did not see this posted yet, but wanted to share. The photo image isn't spectacular and in my opinion is a shot that should not have been allowed to be made public, despite the claims. Coming from the Greer Camp, you don't want your first photo after all of these contacts to look like this. http://www.cseti.org/reports/joshuatree09pictures.htm


This brings me into play I've been basically waiting to see, and if anyone would post a thread on it or not. I also was waiting to see what Greer does.
I'm referring to Greer's one year deadline given to the Obama Administration after he took office to disclose the existence of Extraterrestrial. If Obama did not, he would.
To this date, nothing has surfaced as a result.

I respect Dr. Greer and his pioneering efforts and courage, but unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder if Dr. Greer is carrying a big stick, but with little swing.

To be honest, I think a photo I took a few months back of "something" biological hovering no more than 2 ft away from me, is a bit more curious and somewhat clear. The photo was the result of random shots I took in the dark in my back yard while looking at the stars for more physical responses to my thoughts. I got the idea from someone here on Avalon though it was related to something else, and decided to see if there's something present I can't see. I have since also captured orbs in my backyard. I will eventually post them, but for various reasons including clarity, I've delayed doing so.

I have not looked into Greer's Transformation focus as of late. Could someone share with me what exactly, is he speaking about?

Thanks
gscraig

[DoctorWho]

It looks like some sort of lizard hanging on a tree near the chairs. Any idea if large lizards live in that area?
Bill "the Doctor"

[Surdeere]

How come i cannot see anything???? :wall: I am havin a hard time disyphering where the ET is.:nono:

[Ross H]

I wouldnt be running to the bank with those shots...just not convincing enough...the day we have clear and decisive pics is a day Im looking forward to.

Peace

[Fredkc]

How come i cannot see anything???? :wall: I am havin a hard time disyphering where the ET is.:nono:
Because it is basically yet another "fuzzy dot" picture.

No offense intended towards anyone but, If I had a nickel for every "absolute proof!!!" fuzzy dot picture I've seen...

Fred

[lisa]

Wow, even I can take better ET pictures than that :lmao:

[Carol]

When I first saw the photo I had to laugh because I had no clue where the ET was. After reviewing the other data regarding the little alien I too was a bit disappointed. However, the little guy was a surprise. I was just hoping for something larger and more human looking along the lines of the W56s.

[tone3jaguar]

It is more than likely an apparition of some sort. Could easily be an ET, could easily be some other kind of astral entity as well. They are out in a forest and nature spirits have been known at times to not be very camera shy (orbs).

[gscraig]

I really need to slow down and thoroughly proofread my posts. Another example of posting sentences that could warrant using a translation application. :sad:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i was expecting a photo more like this


http://library.thinkquest.org/C004599/ufo-04c.jpg

[Céline]

I agree..who ever let this photo be public...made a big mistake.

the consequences might be bigger then he is ready to accept...sadly.

i see nothing in this picture...except what the want us to see.

[tintagelcave]

Hi there, this picture is very hard to comprehend, very vague, the only detail that gives a clue is the gleaming of a glassy object, maybe the eye of the alien? Here's a link to a lecture of William Cooper, the quaility of the video contrasts with the content. Look at the images that appear in the background wall.........at some point, very peculiar! A must see!
Kind regards and enjoy the day!:original:

http://www.viddler.com/explore/kakhama/videos/2/

[MaskMarvl]

http://www.cseti.org/reports/joshuatree09pictures.htm

I agree, publishing this "photo" was a big mistake.

In the link above, does anyone else notice a strange resemblance of the "outlined alien" with the shape of the nearby trees?

:naughty:

[Seafury]

I stared at those pictures for 15 minutes and even with it supposedly pointed out I can't see an ET.

I sure can see a tree there in the daytime shot though. :mfr_lol:

[Majorion]

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq348/majorion/greerjoke.jpg

:lmao: :lol3:

[motrock]

I am not seeing it! It looks like part of the bushes to me. I don't know... I think they made a big mistake posting the photo!

[tone3jaguar]

I don't see anything ground breaking either. On the other hand I fail to see how it was a mistake to publish the photo. Why? Because people might judge it? What ever.

[woodshreder]

I totally disagree with the negative attitude about this. I mean what did you expect ? a newer version of My Favorite Martian with antennas popping out of the top of some humans head? I just don't get it, aren't we all here with hopefully an open mind? I commend the brave approach by CSETI to publish what they perceived as some type of extraterrestrial entity
I only say that from experience with taking photos. I'm sure all of us have taken a picture expecting to see what we had experienced only to say
"that picture doesn't do it any justice!" Just my opinion

[jaby]

[QUOTE=Majorion;242181
:lmao: :lol3:[/QUOTE]


So how is posting an insidious picture of the person who gave the world
the Disclosure Project funny ????


The picture you posted and found funny called Steven
Greer a pathological liar and lunatic.


You find that funny?

[aroundthetable]

I mean what did you expect ? a newer version of My Favorite Martian...

Lol

I wish they would have outlined it or have an arrow pointing it out, at the moment it looks like my first acid trip.

[gscraig]

WOW!! Majorion, that made me laugh indeed!!! :roll1:

Classic. Very nice.

Again folks, I do respect Greer and what he's brought to the table. No one can take that away from him and his team.

Best of luck to them and their endeavors as we all continue our journeys for the truth and disclosure.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

have a whiff of my posy ... ROFL:lmao:

[Seafury]

I totally disagree with the negative attitude about this. I mean what did you expect ? a newer version of My Favorite Martian with antennas popping out of the top of some humans head? I just don't get it, aren't we all here with hopefully an open mind? I commend the brave approach by CSETI to publish what they perceived as some type of extraterrestrial entity
I only say that from experience with taking photos. I'm sure all of us have taken a picture expecting to see what we had experienced only to say
"that picture doesn't do it any justice!" Just my opinion

Are you saying you see an ET in that photo?

I wouldn't say we are close-minded around here. Someone posted a nearly all black photo and said here's an ET. What's to be open-minded about?

I have a photo of an ET too, I'll post it right below this sentence.



















See it? Maybe you're too close-minded.

[woodshreder]

Did I say that dumb ass? You obviously didnt read my post ......No suprise there........ What are you trying to prove? that you cant see beyond your own ignorance or maybe its that you are so superior to the point where you wont even consider someone who is actually making an attempt to provide a credible post ? Of course just to be heckeled by your brainless criticism !!! GFY, Im sure your good at it

[jaby]

I totally disagree with the negative attitude about this. I mean what did you expect ? a newer version of My Favorite Martian with antennas popping out of the top of some humans head? I just don't get it, aren't we all here with hopefully an open mind? I commend the brave approach by CSETI to publish what they perceived as some type of extraterrestrial entity
I only say that from experience with taking photos. I'm sure all of us have taken a picture expecting to see what we had experienced only to say
"that picture doesn't do it any justice!" Just my opinion


Well said woodshreder.................:thumb_yello:



And this is for Majorion......could you post a link to where you got that
picture from in post 15.....or did you create it yourself?

[Seafury]

Did I say that dumb ass? You obviously didnt read my post ......No suprise there........ What are you trying to prove? that you cant see beyond your own ignorance or maybe its that you are so superior to the point where you wont even consider someone who is actually making an attempt to provide a credible post ? Of course just to be heckeled by your brainless criticism !!! GFY, Im sure your good at it

Haha, settle down. You're sounding a little too close-minded towards my point of view.

[jaby]

To be honest, I think a photo I took a few months back of "something" biological hovering no more than 2 ft away from me, is a bit more curious and somewhat clear. The photo was the result of random shots I took in the dark in my back yard while looking at the stars for more physical responses to my thoughts. I got the idea from someone here on Avalon though it was related to something else, and decided to see if there's something present I can't see. I have since also captured orbs in my backyard. I will eventually post them, but for various reasons including clarity, I've delayed doing so.



Can we see the picture of the 'something' biological that you took?

'A bit more curious and somewhat clear' sounds interesting.


C'mon now.....don't be shy.....:mfr_lol:

[Peace of mind]

I’m not judging but I’m a bit disappointed in people for various reasons. As far as PA is concern…it’s the amount of support for vague evidence. Maybe I missed a few threads with convincing proof and if so I would greatly appreciate a link to them, thanks in advance.
With so much talk about reptiles, grays and light beings…I haven’t seen one, not ONE picture of any alien or light being. C’mon man, where is all of this knowledge coming from? With all the speculation and talk about aliens there is no clear proof, matter of fact there isn’t one whistleblower posting on these boards. Are they that afraid, or are they that afraid their little game will be exposed by some tough questions. I’m in a position to help a great deal in exposing these evil entities but haven’t seen anything yet. My patience is growing thin and my team is becoming more skeptical by the day. If there is fear in exposing the truth…then these hot air blowers should shut their mouths if they aren’t prepared to go all the way with their revelation, as I see it…they are doing more harm then TPTB by confusing the people who want so bad to see something phenomenal…maybe they are part of TPTB….so I’ve been told on a few occasions. What kind of person believes in what a stranger has to say without any real proof attached to it?

Peace

[Seafury]

What kind of person believes in what a stranger has to say without any real proof attached to it?

Peace

Unfortunately that's the type of person that I see far too much of on these boards. I believe in what PA and PC are trying to accomplish but I don't necessarily believe in what they're actually achieving which to me is a growing army of completely gullible, non-critical thinking truthseekers.

I know the mindset of some is that all information should be considered before discarding it as useless. I actually believe this as well. The difference is it only takes me two seconds to know when a completely black photograph is not proof of an ET. I also know immediately that a black blob in the sky in a photograph is not proof of bases on Mars.

Some things are so ridiculous that I feel compelled to jump in on the conversation just to stop the propagation of idiocy. All I ask is some common sense and some discernment. Call some BS so the people spreading it realize what they are doing and learn some discernment themselves. If we all did that the quality of information on these boards might improve immensely.

[K626]

Unfortunately that's the type of person that I see far too much of on these boards. I believe in what PA and PC are trying to accomplish but I don't necessarily believe in what they're actually achieving which to me is a growing army of completely gullible, non-critical thinking truthseekers.

I know the mindset of some is that all information should be considered before discarding it as useless. I actually believe this as well. The difference is it only takes me two seconds to know when a completely black photograph is not proof of an ET. I also know immediately that a black blob in the sky in a photograph is not proof of bases on Mars.

Some things are so ridiculous that I feel compelled to jump in on the conversation just to stop the propagation of idiocy. All I ask is some common sense and some discernment. Call some BS so the people spreading it realize what they are doing and learn some discernment themselves. If we all did that the quality of information on these boards might improve immensely.

Some sanity at last. :wub2:

[Majorion]

Some things are so ridiculous that I feel compelled to jump in on the conversation just to stop the propagation of idiocy. All I ask is some common sense and some discernment.
Seafury, you deserve an applause. :thumb_yello:

[tone3jaguar]

With so much talk about reptiles, grays and light beings…I haven’t seen one, not ONE picture of any alien or light being.

You have not been looking hard enough

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[tone3jaguar]

And another thing. All of the people who judge Greer as being a fake or what ever are just protecting their own insecurity. I was not sure whether or not he was the real deal or not. Instead of just jumping to conclusions in order to protect the happy little box I don't live in, I went to see for myself.

Once you see the kind of stuff that happens after a group of people do the contact protocols (Greer present or not), you have a tendency to be more open minded towards claims like the ones about the photo.

I am not convinced about he picture either. However I am also not playing the victim and crying about how I think it is bunk because it is loose evidence. Get over it.

[Seafury]

However I am also not playing the victim and crying about how I think it is bunk because it is loose evidence. Get over it.

Yes, we should just let everyone get away with saying and posting whatever they want.

Also, your statement about playing victim makes no sense.

Also, my views on this crappy picture and all other "loose evidence" are not necessarily my views on everything Steven Greer has ever done.

[Peace of mind]

That really sounds like a touching story Tone3Jaguar and I can probably see myself believing this too…especially with a heavy heart. But cameras and graphic software can duplicate everything I’ve seen displayed here on this forum.
The image in this vid was said to be on a security camera (which in my opinion looks like a reflection of the ceiling lights), yet no one has actually seen it with their own eyes. Fox/sly news pushes out stories to train the mind by playing on peoples emotions and being that it was during the holidays it may seem even more authentic. There’s a part of me that wants to believe this was an actual spiritual event but giving the source and the lack of details I just don’t see it as anything other than a reflection. If the entity would have moved or something, maybe it would be more believable…do you have anything else? If not, I appreciate the effort.

Oh, you’re right when saying people shouldn’t judge anyone. A word of advice thou…if you claim to have important information and present it in a halfass way…prepare to face ridicule. I may not agree with mockery but I’m speaking for myself. There is too much deceit, and attention seekers out here trying to make a buck or some fame at the cost of people’s sanity. To be honest, for the most part I believe skeptics have been quite tolerant solely out of respect. Hopefully; we all want to make things better and not worse.

Peace

[Seafury]

I’m in a position to help a great deal in exposing these evil entities but haven’t seen anything yet. My patience is growing thin and my team is becoming more skeptical by the day.

Peace

Any chance you can elaborate on what you and your team do? I'm just curious.

[Majorion]

Also, my views on this crappy picture and all other "loose evidence" are not necessarily my views on everything Steven Greer has ever done.
Steven Greer turned a charlatan after his disclosure project, I happen to be a fan of that early work of his, but clearly, anyone who takes one look at this so called CSETI evidence (anyone rational enough) will probably fall off their chair laughing at the absurdity. Unfortunately, some people don't have a rationale or open minded enough to accept that the man is now a fraud, his early accomplishment does not justify his behavior since.

[Kra]

vTbovYAeC5I

[tone3jaguar]

Steven Greer turned a charlatan after his disclosure project, I happen to be a fan of that early work of his, but clearly, anyone who takes one look at this so called CSETI evidence (anyone rational enough) will probably fall off their chair laughing at the absurdity. Unfortunately, some people don't have a rationale or open minded enough to accept that the man is now a fraud, his early accomplishment does not justify his behavior since.

Yeah you are probably right, the full on light craft and emf detectors pegging after the contact meditation where all probably just mass hallucinations of the 70 or so people who were there and saw it.

Have fun living in a fish bowl, I like it out here in the rest of the house.

[tone3jaguar]

That really sounds like a touching story Tone3Jaguar and I can probably see myself believing this too…especially with a heavy heart. But cameras and graphic software can duplicate everything I’ve seen displayed here on this forum.

Technology can duplicate anything. From that paradigm of zero reliance on intuition and only on material evidence, anything media based no matter how convincing could be grouped into the (that could have been faked) category.

I am not trying to defend the over all efficacy of the photograph. However, having taken my own personal photographs after I did the contact protocol meditation of the sky and getting results, I am open minded to any possibilities. Could my photographs that where taken right after I requested for the light ships to show up on the photos be faked? Hell yes they could have. Do I care if anyone ever believes that I took them the way that I did? Not really, I could care less as long as I know it.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/nightufophotos2005.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x102/bradwj1977/nightufophotos2006.jpg

What you want to see is an person in your face evidence that leaves no possibility for doubt at all. You are never going to find that on the internet. You are going to have to go out and see this s--t for yourself.

[Majorion]

Yeah you are probably right, the full on light craft and emf detectors pegging after the contact meditation where all probably just mass hallucinations of the 70 or so people who were there and saw it.
I'm not gonna waste too much of my time with you, but it's worth a try.

Here's what Steven Greer is presenting - as evidence - to the world:

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq348/majorion/BJ-006.jpg

Have fun living in a fish bowl, I like it out here in the rest of the house.
In fact I've had my own contact experiences. I don't need to be extorted by an individual to go on some expedition. That would be living in a fish bowl.

[tone3jaguar]

I'm not gonna waste too much of my time with you, but it's worth a try.

Rolls Eyes

In fact I've had my own contact experiences. I don't need to be extorted by an individual to go on some expedition. That would be living in a fish bowl.

Rolls Eyes 2x

[tone3jaguar]

Also, your statement about playing victim makes no sense.

So the general reaction of the hard lined closed minded skeptics in this thread that go something like...

"I can't believe he is trying to pass this off on me, how dare he"

....Is not playing the victim? How so?

[Seafury]

So the general reaction of the hard lined closed minded skeptics in this thread that go something like...

"I can't believe he is trying to pass this off on me, how dare he"

....Is not playing the victim? How so?

Because I called your BS. That means I haven't been victimized.

It's like getting jumped in an alley and sending the rat back into the street with his tail between his legs.

And if all it takes is to call BS on an all-black photo to be a hard lined closed minded skeptic, then I guess I'm Michael Shermer.

[tone3jaguar]

Seafury, I hate to burst your bubble, but the victim comment was not directed at any one particular person. Why take it so personally?

[Seafury]

Mainly because I'm one of the people you're referring to and have mostly the same stance as the others of my ilk in this thread and your statement is not true.

[jaby]

Steven Greer turned a charlatan after his disclosure project, I happen to be a fan of that early work of his, but clearly, anyone who takes one look at this so called CSETI evidence (anyone rational enough) will probably fall off their chair laughing at the absurdity. Unfortunately, some people don't have a rationale or open minded enough to accept that the man is now a fraud, his early accomplishment does not justify his behavior since.


Lets use a bit of critical thinking here....you accuse Greer of being a fraud
and a charlatan....now granted....the photo IS funny...so very EASY to
rubbish and dismiss.

Wouldn't a fraud and a charlatan produce something better than this?


Would a fraud and a charlatan set themselves up for the level of ridicule
that will naturally follow the release of this stuff?



I asked you about the picture YOU presented here (post 15)..did you
create it yourself...?


You really have got it in for Steven Greer, haven't you.

[Majorion]

Lets use a bit of critical thinking here...
There doesn't seem to be any critical thinking on your part or the others who support this man. Anybody who does the slightest of research or even a simple Google search on Steven Greer will find all the information they need. This latest incident is yet another reminder of the constant antics and outlandish behavior Greer has exhibited for years.

[jaby]

There doesn't seem to be any critical thinking on your part or the others who support this man. Anybody who does the slightest of research or even a simple Google search on Steven Greer will find all the information they need. This latest incident is yet another reminder of the constant antics and outlandish behavior Greer has exhibited for years.


You have side-stepped the point I was making.


I presume that Greer is presenting this in good faith...what-ever
people might think.


If he was just drumming up trade for the gatherings..wouldn't he
present something more palatable...oh, I don't know...like a 'traditional' little
grey peeping out of the bushes?


I'm sure there's tons of anti-Greer stuff to be had on the internet...IMO he
is the natural target for a smear campaign. For those who want to smear
him, for what-ever reason.

[lisa]

Peace of mind, I echo some of your sentiment.

The lack of evidence or progress put forth by Disclosure/Greer/CSETI maybe intentional.
Perhaps their goal is to disclose as little convincing evidence as possible and to dumb down people with disinfo.
Hopefully, they are not there to trap whistleblowers who want to disclose important information. :sad:

There are a lot of grey/brown alien pictures on the web, but I am not sure about their authenticity.
(Caution: you may find some of these pictures disturbing):
http://www.alienandufopictures.com/alien_pictures.html
http://www.alienandufopictures.com/alien_pictures_2.html
There are more on YouTube, for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7W3wbPrGw8

I have no idea how the reps look like... maybe this?
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/08/25/alien-baby-or-hoax/bizarre-creature-found-in-mexico-stumps-experts.html

Some speculate that this maybe a baby drac:
http://www.metatech.org/baby_dragon_draconian.html

And of course there ETs that look a lot like us and our ancestors maybe of ET origin as well.

Majorion, the poster tells it all! I might borrow it to plaster over all the immortal Greer/CSETI threads. :thumb_yello:

[tone3jaguar]

Mainly because I'm one of the people you're referring to and have mostly the same stance as the others of my ilk in this thread and your statement is not true.

Ahh, so I was victimizing you. Good thing you don't play the victim.

(Rolls eyes 3x)

[gscraig]

Arountthetable wrote:I wish they would have outlined it or have an arrow pointing it out, at the moment it looks like my first acid trip.
Nice:lmao:

Jaby wrote:
Can we see the picture of the 'something' biological that you took?

'A bit more curious and somewhat clear' sounds interesting.


C'mon now.....don't be shy.....

Will do. Kinda looks like a x-ray/ghostly image. I will get up asap.

[Waking.Up]

What kind of person believes in what a stranger has to say without any real proof attached to it?


Well, Bill and Kerry obviously.

[Steve_A]

Hi gscraig,

Call me blind or stupid if you will, but all I can gleen from the 'photo' is a superimposed image of two shirts draped over the backs of chairs between two bushes over a dark stary sky.

Could I be wrong?

Best regards,

Steve



Hello All,

I did not see this posted yet, but wanted to share. The photo image isn't spectacular and in my opinion is a shot that should not have been allowed to be made public, despite the claims. Coming from the Greer Camp, you don't want your first photo after all of these contacts to look like this. http://www.cseti.org/reports/joshuatree09pictures.htm

[Madatheist]

Hello to Every One in here

I’m glad to find a thread to compare my ideas, especially after reading all of your previous messages.

I would say that I’m a sceptic, but I know that I have a part of me that says “I want to believe”. I spent time, trying to really give an ear to everyone who would claim to have some information, trying not to “judge” too fast what I was hearing. In that process I was glad to find a platform like PC, and I was sometime really impressed by the discussions they propose (I’m refering to the private panel in Barcelona for example).
I recently decided to give an eye at this forum, and now I’ll try to give you my thoughts, if I may.


http://www.cseti.org/reports/joshuatree09pictures.htm

As I came across this photo through my own ravings (not seeing more alien than order in my room), I immediately turned to this forum to find any reactions, and (who knows) maybe some expertise.
I would say that I found in this thread a confrontation of opinions and interpretations, which I found very interesting.

I totally agree with all of You (Peace of Mind, Majorion and Seafury, and others) on the fact that I can’t buy this alleged “First Ever Photograph of an Extraterrestrial” that was taken just in November last year (just took time to develop the film).

Also, keeping an open-mind doesn’t mean giving away all form of criticism. Personally, I don’t see a problem in confronting different belief-systems, and telling others what seems illogic, or unjust to our own eyes…


Like Majorion I was appreciating the first steps of the Disclosure Project, hoping that Greer would somehow succeed to maintain the “UFO subject” in mainstream light. But after having met the Guru-part of Greer, I kinda lost any expectations…
I mean: what is CSETI if not a parody of SETI ? http://www.seti.org (and there’s an irony in Studying Extraterrestrial Intelligences while others are Searching for Extraterrestrial Intelligences at the same time, don’t U think?)


And why this need to involve spirituality in everything? As you could have guessed, I’m not a big fan of religion, as I see nothing but a political tool in it… I also consider that everyone is the keeper of his own beliefs, and that one should be able to express and live his spirituality as he wishes, as long as it doesn’t require messing with other people.

But when it comes to prove the existence of an extra-terrestrial life, and even a contact, what is the point of spreading “big love” or meditating if there is no solid evidence for anything happening in fact?


Tell me if I’m wrong, but if any one of You would organize a “CSETI contact event”, wouldn’t you take care of getting all the equipments that could be necessary and are available in 2010? Just thinking about night-vision, lights, and HD cameras… that may give something better than a bunch of pixels.


(I would be glad to use this http://www.cseti.org/images/joshuatree09/BJ-006.jpg as an avatar by the way :) but we can't upload ours as I understood?)

[Seafury]

Boo, tried to steal your idea. In my CP the image shows up, I resized it and everything. Not seeing anything here though.

I was hoping people would think I was the first evidence of an ET in an online forum. I'm sure at least one person would have believed it.

[Kra]

And why this need to involve spirituality in everything? As you could have guessed, I’m not a big fan of religion, as I see nothing but a political tool in it.

What does religion have to do with spirituality ?

[micjer]

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/locationofet-5percent.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/ETwmeasure-15percent.jpg


http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/DSCF4289a.jpg


You would think that they would release a picture more like what Lisa posted as their first one to give it more authenticity. These pics just don't cut it to the average skeptic.

[Seafury]

I see the big evil alien at the end of Men in Black.

[DoctorWho]

Still looks like a lizard.
Bill "the Doctor"

[Jnana]

Tell me if I’m wrong, but if any one of You would organize a “CSETI contact event”, wouldn’t you take care of getting all the equipments that could be necessary and are available in 2010? Just thinking about night-vision, lights, and HD cameras… that may give something better than a bunch of pixels.

Hi Madatheist,

For the outings I've organized, I have not done anything to record phenomena. Why? Pixels don't prove anything, but people will remember what they have seen with their eyes. With my limited resources, trying to capture things on cameras is just a distraction from the main purpose. Maybe when I get bored with the whole thing I'll do more with cameras.

Greer does have night vision video cameras and all sorts of stuff and people to run it. There's a DVD with his latest book (Contact: Countdown to Transformation). Having seen one of the events that is on the DVD, I would say that the video delivers nothing even close to the impact of seeing such a thing live.

I don't know what to make of this particular image. In particular, I'm wondering what the lighted area is below the alleged ET. If the daytime context picture is accurate, then there's other stuff going on in that area.

Word on the CSETI forum is that there are more images from recent outings that will be made available at some point. I hope the quality is better.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well if you want to find ET, just look at your pet, what better place to observe us from than right in our homes...

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/26500/Ugly-Cat-26982.jpg

[Peace of mind]

@seafury
I have strong ties in the entertainment industry/media outlets, law, military, and a few other areas…as well as the streets. There’s a movement going on and pieces are in place, we are just waiting for the right tools to work with…there is too much at stake and we do not want to be responsible for spreading more BS.

@Tone3Jaguar
I hear you man, I have a question for you. Where do you think (on Earth, particularly USA) is/or will have the most alien activity? I’m planning a few road trips

@Kra
Interesting vid, I’ll have to look at it again later, right now something is wrong with my sound, thanks. truly

@Lisa
Thanks, I jump on that site too sometimes, there is some good stuff there to say the least and it does help in providing my group with a little more motivation…hey beggars can’t be choosy, huh…just hope the many whistleblowers here were a bit more considerate.




It’s very frustrating for everyone…as we can see. Imagine when/if the poop really start hitting the fan.

If I have come in to contact with any form of alien, I would keep the experience to myself until I can provide enough undeniable proof, I’m sure I would be fighting with myself on how and when to reveal what I know but without conceivable evidence I know I would be causing harm to others who may be contemplating their own disclosure. We have to consider that we are/were programmed to view life in a certain light. So when far fetch ideas, supernatural events, ufo activity is only known by a hand full of people…that hand full of people will have to be very creative in their presentations. Just coming out and saying “I saw a such and such and this surreal feeling just came over me and then a light flashed with heat and a shadow with a hot rock glided crossed the floor, yadda,yadda,yadda...”. c’monnn. This is the stuff we pay to see in theaters. I know Hollywood is at large and we are all trained to be part of the script. We are conditioned, our ideas of most aliens comes straight out of Sci Fi flicks. Maybe movies are trying to unveil some truths; there’s also a possibility they are setting us up for an upcoming global staged event. It’s easy to go around telling people they have to be good at discerning, but what if they are not as good as you?

There are many bright minds here and yet I still see struggle in grasping the truth…imagine how the poor sheep must feel. What I’m proposing is that people who are interacting with the unknown should prepare themselves for absolute change. Their lives can no longer be the same and (imo) feel they now have difficult obligations to deal with. Responsibility decorates heroics, and if you don’t want to slip on the tights and cape please be mindful that assumptions are prevalent in the minds of the sheeple...if you care or not. People have enough problems being manipulated by their corrupt leaders; it isn’t fair to them or yourself to go into this half heartedly because it will only cause chaos if not organized/planed out thoroughly. We owe it to ourselves, and no one but us can fix our problems…we just need to know what we are working with. In the least, we as a whole will have develope more courage to move forward accordingly.

Peace

[Sollve]

However, having taken my own personal photographs after I did the contact protocol meditation of the sky and getting results, I am open minded to any possibilities.



Hi tone3jaguar,
Is there any chance you could write this contact protocol down for others like me to try it?

Sollve

[gscraig]

Hi gscraig,

Call me blind or stupid if you will, but all I can gleen from the 'photo' is a superimposed image of two shirts draped over the backs of chairs between two bushes over a dark stary sky.

Could I be wrong?

Precisely Steve A.

When I first opened the photo link, I kept looking at the draping material, because that is what immediately stands out. It took me a moment to finally gaze elsewhere unsuccessfully, until I clicked on the "zoom" shot. Just simply was not an idea photo to share, even if this had more clarity prior to photographing.

[Agape]

It sadly reminds me of the 'Martians discovered ' on NASA photos by A. Bassiago.
No need to stress here that our senses are imperfect. The ET might well been there..but, he did not want to pose for photograph :original:

Our senses work with precision within certain range of perception, what is further we see either as blurred, mishaped or non existent .
We would need far more sensitive cameras to be able to capture beings inhabiting other physical dimensions than ours with precision.

The paradox for those who had personal experience with ETs and their technologies is that these beings are usually far more delicate and 'precise' in their appearance, as they tend to be really beautiful , in their own way, compared to humans . Far from being shape-less, blurred , ghostly characters .
The same can be said about their technologies .

Might be a mistake on our side. But same as with the 'entities on Mars' , it more reminds me of some childhood experiences in forest where we went to search for mushrooms.

Hopefully starring to leaves , moss and bushes, only too often the like to be mushroom was an illusion of light and colored backgrounds , a leaf or a pebble, from distance. I had really good sight that time lol

Or like a shapes of beings we see in clouds ..in mountains...in darkness indeed too..

It's still easier to examine such phenomena if they are accessible to us but who can go to Mars to check in person ?
Some chosen had been there, sorry , I forgot . :tears:


A

[Kulapops]

I don't think the photo really helps to convert the skeptical.

To me, it really just looks like part of the bush in the original photo. The colourings are different in the cutout and later pictures.

It is a paradox though. All we need is one great photo. Just one. Yet, if that photo looks really good, it would seem fake... and if it's looks really awful, it won't be believed.

I think context is the only way forward. It's not what you photo, but the situtation in which it is recorded.

I think that's why the Russian pyramid.. and fishing trawler vids are exciting, because they seem to be happening in real time and at real locations.

Yet even they seem fake.

So in the end it's just going to come down to a question of faith. Perhaps the UFO phenomenon is not resolvable with one piece of contextual evidence.

Imagine...a UFO landing on the white house lawn, covered by the media. aliens come out, cameras go inside. We'd all shout 'false flag!'.

K

[gscraig]

As promised, below is a link to some of the photos I have.

Again, not the clearest shots and actually have a ghostly/x-ray look to them. On his evening I decided to take random shots after submitting some thoughts, and most of the photos were dark. When I decided to lighten them up is when I saw what is attached via link. I'm not a photo expert and have to advance image software, so please feel free to have at the original to see what you can further identify or laugh out loud. :-)
I used an older Sony Webcam model.


Just to recap how this was captured; I was experiencing what others have mentioned via the forum of seeing physical responses to their thoughts/requests for a sightng. This was usually after meditating, but my experiences were in response to me standing outside and simply looking up and asking.
In most cases, a shooting star that only traveled the is distance of your residence would emerge (usually looked like sparkle fireworks).
Although, I've been shown/seen mulitiple feint stars glide across the sky, strobing red and blue lit stars near my home (one I know it was a ship due to seeing a black silhouette as night was falling) and stars pulse a bright white light and then ascend upward into the night sky. There's been other experiences, but you get the idea.

Ok, enough rambling......http://s656.photobucket.com/albums/uu286/gscraig/Photos%20of%20anomalies%20in%20backyard/

[Bauzer]

Mr. Steven Greer.

Can I buy pot from you?

-B

[gscraig]

LOL.

I'm going to email the Disclosure crew to get some more insight on this, and perhaps there is more to be shared than made available.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I suggest posting this over at Open Minds Forum for the image anaysis team to look at.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY ALREADY DID:

http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=analysis&action=display&thread=7497&page=2

[3optic]

Personally I'm not looking for proof for my own satisfaction and I'm guessing most people here are past the "prove to me that aliens exist" stage.

I'm not particularly interested in this photo but I recently heard someone say, "the proper way to discern anything is to absorb it and let the true self sort it out" I don't feel it's sophisticated to react with one's skepticism and make statements reflecting a polar view point with no new evidence.

All this "just wanted to point out the BS" and "so-and-so is full of s***" is not helpful for people new to these subjects. If I had a nickel for every poster trying to educate people in rational thinking...

.. I'd have alot of bus fares.:lmfao:

[gscraig]

Thanks EYES WIDE OPEN....I had never heard of them. I'm going send picture over to them as well, as see what their findings are.

[xbusymom]

Note: I read page 1 and only glanced at page 2 so far, and I will go through it more thoroughly in a few minutes...

but can we puh-leeaaze grow up and stop the toddler-bratty-"i am right-you are wrong" squabbling ...

you claim to want the truth, *most of the time reality is not as pretty (or as quick) as the hollywood version- so keep an open mind and do your own research

(*just my 2 cents worth)

EDIT: Because I don't have the expertise, training or equipment to do my own research, I DO rely on the 'experts' opinions... but my point is that people come here to compare the experts' notes - and if you are claiming to BE an expert, you are much more credible when you BEHAVE like one.