What Is the Big Picture Concerning the NWO Agenda?

[Seashore]

I am interested in the thoughts of members who have done a great deal of conspiracy research, and have been connecting your own dots as you've gone along, and who have a general picture in your mind about the originator of the NWO agenda - that you are willing to share.

First, is there a consensus that the controllers of this world are 50/50 human-reptilian hybrids who believe themselves to be superior, who are, themselves, 100% mind-controlled, and who answer to astral entities in the 4th dimension?

I guess that's enough to put out there to start with. (:mfr_lol:)

(I'm trying to use my time wisely! :mfr_omg: What's a researcher to do? What's the point? Why are we typing away on this forum? Are we getting anywhere?)

Anyway, I hope that members who have thoughts about who/what is actually calling the shots - will share...

[tone3jaguar]

First, is there a consensus that the controllers of this world are 50/50 human-reptilian hybrids who believe themselves to be superior, who are, themselves, 100% mind-controlled, and who answer to astral entities in the 4th dimension?

There is not really any consensus about any of the fringe metaphysical aspects of it. I think that the whole reptile hybrid deal is a total misinterpretation of what is actually happening.

I think that the off world astral entities present themselves as being reptilian and that these people channel them 24/7. An astral entity can take any form it chooses. If reptile triggers the perception they want, then that is the form they will take.

[eckasha]

The original human race has been hybridised by both Annunaki and Draks in their quest for not just the Earth territories but this whole time matrix. These particular Anus and Draks come from a matrix that is 'fallen', which means they are cut off from the source energy through free will choices they have made. If you are not connected to source energy you need to feed off other things and you start to compete for energy, sound familiar? You get worried that there is not enough energy and wars start.
The more hybridised genes you have in your body the more vulnerable you are to influence from these groups, quite often without realising what is happening. You might even think you are doing something good.
The illuminati that are running this world from behind the scenes are being controlled by the Elder Illuminati from off planet, who also consider their own planet hybrids as expendible, the same as the humans. They are being used as well.

The NWO has been in planning since the Atlantean times. These 'people' work on long time scales. The plan is to pull us into their black hole system once we line up with the black hole at the centre of our galaxy in 2012, but it will not be allowed to happen.

There is a long history here but it is finally coming to a close.
For more info look on azuritepress.com and click on Info for the Summaries.

[Seashore]

There is not really any consensus about any of the fringe metaphysical aspects of it. I think that the whole reptile hybrid deal is a total misinterpretation of what is actually happening.

Tone, you're familiar with Stewart Swerdlow? You reject what he says?

I think that the off world astral entities present themselves as being reptilian and that these people channel them 24/7. An astral entity can take any form it chooses. If reptile triggers the perception they want, then that is the form they will take.

If I'm understanding you, you're saying the Illuminati channel the astral entities 24/7, and what they are interested in, or relate to, takes a reptilian form.

If I'm correct, then I would like to ask you, why are the Illuminati interested in reptilians?

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I think its hard to really look at any of this stuff objectively - in regards to almost everything posted on Avalon. It's a subjective ride and I think that is a major part in "getting" it.

[Stardustaquarion]

The original human race has been hybridised by both Annunaki and Draks in their quest for not just the Earth territories but this whole time matrix. These particular Anus and Draks come from a matrix that is 'fallen', which means they are cut off from the source energy through free will choices they have made. If you are not connected to source energy you need to feed off other things and you start to compete for energy, sound familiar? You get worried that there is not enough energy and wars start.
The more hybridised genes you have in your body the more vulnerable you are to influence from these groups, quite often without realising what is happening. You might even think you are doing something good.
The illuminati that are running this world from behind the scenes are being controlled by the Elder Illuminati from off planet, who also consider their own planet hybrids as expendible, the same as the humans. They are being used as well.

The NWO has been in planning since the Atlantean times. These 'people' work on long time scales. The plan is to pull us into their black hole system once we line up with the black hole at the centre of our galaxy in 2012, but it will not be allowed to happen.

There is a long history here but it is finally coming to a close.
For more info look on azuritepress.com and click on Info for the Summaries.

Great post Eckasha! :welcomeani::wub2:

[Stardustaquarion]

I think its hard to really look at any of this stuff objectively - in regards to almost everything posted on Avalon. It's a subjective ride and I think that is a major part in "getting" it.

What is "objective" really, our eyes don't see the world out there they just pick up signals up side down, that later are translated into ideas or images that fit our believe systems

So in other words, what is "real" for you may not be "real" for me and viceversa

I specially realized this because I have seen "auras" around object and people all my life and talking about that with others they don't see the same as I do:naughty:

[Seashore]

I think its hard to really look at any of this stuff objectively - in regards to almost everything posted on Avalon. It's a subjective ride and I think that is a major part in "getting" it.

It is very hard.

But I think we can help each other reach the truth by respectfully putting our heads together. I don't think we'll know for sure that we've reached the truth, but I think we can feel fairly confident about it - if we do the hard work.

[gita]

Great post Eckasha! :welcomeani::wub2:

I second that. :thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

[Seashore]

These particular Anus and Draks come from a matrix that is 'fallen', which means they are cut off from the source energy through free will choices they have made.

I think of them more as simply a different species of being, rather than as "fallen," which sounds judgmental to me, when thinking of the multiverse as teeming with life, all of which have energy, but manifested in different ways.

[Majorion]

The big picture is that people are now waking up and starting to question things they otherwise wouldn't have questioned - on such a macro scale - say; 15 years ago. This is due, in large part to the growing truth movement and the connection amongst people all around the world on the internet with this kind of research, so 1) is a foundation (truth movement) 2. the other is a platform (internet). Many have begun to realize that "reality" is not quite as CNN would have you believe, and that used to be a major leap for any "average" person a long time ago, the fact that media outlets would outright lie to them and present false truths had not even occurred to many, however now with the with the broad scope of independent sources, through the use of the world wide web, presenting their own stories, rivaling the mainstream, this triggered a chain reaction that lead to increasing independent research and independent investigation.

It appears though that some intelligence agencies and even Google are intent on controlling the flow of information on the internet, in the hopes of either suppressing the truth or at least distorting it.

[gita]

I think of them more as simply a different species of being, rather than as "fallen," which sounds judgmental to me, when thinking of the multiverse as teeming with life, all of which have energy, but manifested in different ways.

I think the term ‘fallen’ here refers to the choice these being made that I couldn’t even dream of making and that is to disconnect from the source. Although this disconnection is not for eternity as the source will call all of ‘his’ parts ‘home’ eventually – only for the cycle to start again. Also from my understanding, this (whatever this is) has never happened before in eons and eons of time before.

[gita]

The big picture is that people are now waking up and starting to question things they otherwise wouldn't have questioned - on such a macro scale - say; 15 years ago. This is due, in large part to the growing truth movement and the connection amongst people all around the world on the internet with this kind of research, so 1) is a foundation (truth movement) 2. the other is a platform (internet). Many have begun to realize that "reality" is not quite as CNN would have you believe, and that used to be a major leap for any "average" person a long time ago, the fact that media outlets would outright lie to them and present false truths had not even occurred to many, however now with the with the broad scope of independent sources, through the use of the world wide web, presenting their own stories, rivaling the mainstream, this triggered a chain reaction that lead to increasing independent research and independent investigation.

It appears though that some intelligence agencies and even Google are intent on controlling the flow of information on the internet, in the hopes of either suppressing the truth or at least distorting it.

Yes and lets also remember that our consciousness is growing regardless and so is the consciousness of our planet and no one can stop that – this said, it seems that they have a plan to stir our growth into a negative direction using the same tools we use to get info.:sneaky2:

[Seashore]

I think the term ‘fallen’ here refers to the choice these being made that I couldn’t even dream of making and that is to disconnect from the source. Although this disconnection is not for eternity as the source will call all of ‘his’ parts ‘home’ eventually – only for the cycle to start again. Also from my understanding, this (whatever this is) has never happened before in eons and eons of time before.

Here is where I am influenced by what Stewart Swerdlow has said. (Actually, I wouldn't even know about Reptilians if I had not discovered his work.)

My understanding from his work is that the Reptilians were created by "the transparent" beings, as Stewart called them, to challenge humans!! He says that the Reptilians are programmed to dominate. So, if Stewart is correct, and I don't know, but if he is correct, then the Reptilians are just doing their thing. It would not have been a choice, it seems, under this scenario.

[gita]

Here is where I am influenced by what Stewart Swerdlow has said. (Actually, I wouldn't even know about Reptilians if I had not discovered his work.)

My understanding from his work is that the Reptilians were created by "the transparent" beings, as Stewart called them, to challenge humans!! He says that the Reptilians are programmed to dominate. So, if Stewart is correct, and I don't know, but if he is correct, then the Reptilians are just doing their thing. It would not have been a choice, it seems, under this scenario.

The reptillians are not the fallen ones. Remember that they are also controlled by another dimension and who knows how high in these dimensions the beings go. Everything is a creation of everthing else!!

[Seashore]

It appears though that some intelligence agencies and even Google are intent on controlling the flow of information on the internet, in the hopes of either suppressing the truth or at least distorting it.

This is true (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20181).

I pray that we don't eventually lost the internet altogether!! I have a shortwave radio, though, that I bought just for the purpose of communication with the world in case the internet is taken away from me.

[Majorion]

What I don't get is why people call them Reptilians, I can imagine it better if people simply said; a negative astral or interdimensional or extraterrestrial, but saying 'reptilian' is very specific. It denotes very specific attributes.

[Seashore]

The reptillians are not the fallen ones. Remember that they are also controlled by another dimension and who knows how high in these dimensions the beings go. Everything is a creation of everthing else!!

Are you describing fractals?

[tone3jaguar]

Tone, you're familiar with Stewart Swerdlow? You reject what he says?

Yes, I reject it.


If I'm understanding you, you're saying the Illuminati channel the astral entities 24/7, and what they are interested in, or relate to, takes a reptilian form.

Correct

If I'm correct, then I would like to ask you, why are the Illuminati interested in reptilians?

They are interested in any being they can derive black magic from. These off world entities are not there only source for it. They also work with demons.

[Seashore]

What I don't get is why people call them Reptilians, I can imagine it better if people simply said; a negative astral or interdimensional or extraterrestrial, but saying 'reptilian' is very specific. It denotes very specific attributes.

I call them Reptilians because I'm talking about physical beings as well as astral. Stewart has drawings of them in Blue Blood, True Blood. Are you familiar with his work?

[Seashore]

Yes, I reject it.

Thanks, Tone. Are you willing to share why?

They are interested in any being they can derive black magic from. These off world entities are not there only source for it. They also work with demons.

Okay that makes a lot of sense to me...

What is the difference between an off world entity and a demon?

[tone3jaguar]

Seashore, I have never looked at this Stewart Swerdlow's information. I dowses up to be 4% factually accurate.

[Majorion]

I call them Reptilians because I'm talking about physical beings as well as astral. Stewart has drawings of them in Blue Blood, True Blood. Are you familiar with his work?
Vaguely, but let me just tell you that I've had contact experiences a long time ago, and this is how I usually follow my intuition on the ET subject, so anytime I hear about Reptilians or very specific things on this subject I'm even more skeptical and questioning. I can't help but always think back to my encounters, which were very peaceful and positive by the way, so generally it's the 'negative' stuff I have a hard time believing.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I am gonna come back when this thread is 50 pages and see if you guys reach a consensus :P

[Seashore]

Seashore, I have never looked at this Stewart Swerdlow's information. I dowses up to be 4% factually accurate.

Can you elaborate a little bit?

How did you go about this dowsing of his information? (Guess I'm asking a big question here. I don't know much about dowsing.)

[Seashore]

Vaguely, but let me just tell you that I've had contact experiences a long time ago, and this is how I usually follow my intuition on the ET subject, so anytime I hear about Reptilians or very specific things on this subject I'm even more skeptical and questioning. I can't help but always think back to my encounters, which were very peaceful and positive by the way, so generally it's the 'negative' stuff I have a hard time believing.

I can see that if you've had personal experience, that this is a whole different ball of wax. I have never had any contact experience myself.

[Seashore]

I am gonna come back when this thread is 50 pages and see if you guys reach a consensus

Lazy!!

:mfr_lol:

:P

What does this mean?

[Magamud]

On one level is too cause or await a global event to gain full control of the literally NEW WORLD.

On another level is to supply hyperdimensional energy to the intergalacitc cabal through the electrical chemical magnetic sphere.

To stop a sentient time line from KNOWING its true power as creators of matter, time and space. More of us less of them type of thing.

[gita]

Are you describing fractals?

(Also far too many other quotes to highlight)

I suspect is so much more than this but I don’t think we even have names for them! There are dimensions within dimensions and on top of that everything loops back onto itself in a spiral fashion – sorry if I’m not explaining myself well but I’m coming from a place of intuition and knowing and find it hard to articulate these dimensional concepts as our language and 3D is so limited.

I’ve been aware for a while now that they are trying to replace our internet with a cyber government internet called Internet2. In UK, they’re already trying to push this through using copyrights as an excuse. China already has something similar in place.

Many researchers have said that not all reptilians are negative. They do however concentrate their research on the ones hell bent on dominating our planet and our souls. From what I’ve gathered, our ‘universe’ is teaming with benevolent beings – it’s just this part of the universe seems to be the hunting ground for the negative beings and our souls are the prize. There is far too much evidence of the existence of reptilians throughout our history and from many different cultures to not consider that they most probably exist.

I concur with tone3jaguar as the lower astral planes have their own hierarchies which include negative energies and demons. The negative reptilians are from what I understand from the lower 4D and their handlers are from lower 5D’s and probably higher. All their energies are different due to them residing on different planes.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Lazy!!

:mfr_lol:



What does this mean?

It's a lazy man's :tongue2:!! hehe

Instead of waiting til 50 pages :wink2: I will lurk in this thread and see what you guys say. I don't have much to add myself, I'm really on the fence because most of this information has only been brought to my attention in the past two years and I'm still trying to integrate/evaluate what I can.

In slowly creating my own world view, I want to avoid abstractions and maybes so that I can work with what I know and can evaluate. I don't want to get my head too far up in the clouds cause god knows I could use a little more grounding. When it gets into all of the metaphysical I have the tendency to crash back down into my simple Zen. I still need to move up from where I am, and then who knows I may actually first hand experience some of the cooler stuff people talk about on Avalon :mfr_omg:

But you guys definitely hash it out. I will learn what I can from the discussion.

[Seashore]

It's a lazy man's :tongue2:!! hehe

Instead of waiting til 50 pages :wink2: I will lurk in this thread and see what you guys say. I don't have much to add myself, I'm really on the fence because most of this information has only been brought to my attention in the past two years and I'm still trying to integrate/evaluate what I can.

In slowly creating my own world view, I want to avoid abstractions and maybes so that I can work with what I know and can evaluate. I don't want to get my head too far up in the clouds cause god knows I could use a little more grounding. When it gets into all of the metaphysical I have the tendency to crash back down into my simple Zen. I still need to move up from where I am, and then who knows I may actually first hand experience some of the cooler stuff people talk about on Avalon :mfr_omg:

But you guys definitely hash it out. I will learn what I can from the discussion.

Thanks for the feedback!

What does your ":P" mean? I don't "get it"!

[Majorion]

What does your ":P" mean? I don't "get it"!
:P is code for :p

(tongue sticking out)

The code didn't work for him cause he used the P as a capital letter, if you type a small p, with the vertical dots behind it, it will work.

[Seashore]

:P is code for :p

(tongue sticking out)

The code didn't work for him cause he used the P as a capital letter, if you type a small p, with the vertical dots behind it, it will work.

Oh!!!

(For God's sake!!)

How do you know this??? :mfr_lol:

[gita]

THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD-World Rulers


http://theuniversalseduction.com/front/the-history-of-the-house-of-rothschild-world-rulers

[Seashore]

THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD-World Rulers


http://theuniversalseduction.com/front/the-history-of-the-house-of-rothschild-world-rulers

Yes, this information sounds familiar to me. The Rothschilds are really descendants of the Khazars, who converted to Judaism - I believe it was for the purpose of not having to answer to the Roman Catholic Church.

This article also mentions the Book of Revelation. Stewart Swerdlow has said that it is the Illuminati's blueprint for the takeover of the world.