Prometheus Initiative

[GregorArturo]

Good day to my friends at Avalon. I am starting an open source online movement to generate a global collaboration for the development of a free energy system (zero point) for the good humankind.

This video is the first to be released that only sums up the idea behind the project. Future videos will talk about fractal reality, sacred geometry, vortex theory, and even some philosophy and metaphysics. After an initial discourse on the concepts, I will present how to replicate certain dynamic structures within our reality. I would of gotten more out tonight as I had planned but I'm about to go out for karaoke :-p

I want to use both YouTube and Avalon as a collaboration medium. So how about, ready to meld some minds?

http://www.youtube.com/gregorarturo85 My YouTube Channel

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[Clarityofawareness]

Good idea.

Are you talking about the search for free energy so long as it's only scientifically proven? Or maybe free energy in some other way as well?

Thing is, it just all seems like more talk and talk about it all and nothing more to come. No, I'm just speculating on why others here had only the courage to read your thread and not respond to it, like I have. Well, at any rate let's see what happens. I send ye a friends request via You Tube as well.

Kevin

[GregorArturo]

Good idea.

Are you talking about the search for free energy so long as it's only scientifically proven? Or maybe free energy in some other way as well?

Thing is, it just all seems like more talk and talk about it all and nothing more to come. No, I'm just speculating on why others here had only the courage to read your thread and not respond to it, like I have. Well, at any rate let's see what happens. I send ye a friends request via You Tube as well.

Kevin

Hey Kevin, thanks for the response. What I am talking about is collaborating with people to develop a free energy system, but not starting from scratch. I have several theoretical models at the moment I am going to share and have been working on in total for over two years now. I have a background in mathematics and physics as many know on Avalon. However, Avalon as I've discovered over the years is not the greatest venue for this sort of thing. This site is full of fear mongering, and besides the healing list and group meditation, it's pretty unproductive in my opinion.

And yes, there is much more talk than doing. I am trying to "do". I am going to share some experimentation that I am working on, and two different but interrelated free energy systems I will be building. One is based magnetic and diamagnetic materials laid out with sacred geometry, and another is a Rodin capacitor coil I have designed. I have yet to construct them simply due to funds and finding suppliers of certain materials.

I feel YouTube is going to be a much more beneficial venue then Avalon as I have already seen some positive collaboration on free energy research.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Gregor, I would love to get involved. However when math comes into the picture I must say I have little experience. If there's any way I can work with you, and try to maybe understand the mechanics from a layman's POV, I am very interested in building and experimenting with this kind of stuff and know plenty of people who would accept the possibilities and maybe help me obtain materials. Regardless as to whether or not I can be of any help, I will be keeping up with this initiative.

[Clarityofawareness]

Do what you got to do and do it all best as you can. Way I see it, your trying to merge a parallel reality (your desired reality of free energy) into and as your current reality. This is more than possible because you have been proving such since birth. Even though you may not see it all in such way. I send you much help (good energy) so keep doing what your doing and keep that chin up.

Kevin

[mudra]

Hi Gregor ,

I bless your project . I know you are a brilliant mind and able to make it through.
The very best to you .
May the team build up .
Shine on :thumb_yello:

Love from me
mudra

[GregorArturo]

What I am going to be sharing in the discussions will involve NO traditional mathematics. It will involve geometry and the concepts of structures, and how those structures interact with themselves. It will be very visual, and could be taught to elementary school students as you don't need Einstein's theory of relativity to describe the base levels of reality. I really want to make some more vids, I'm just not at Tango's at the moment (where my webcam and models are), and actually staying with some friends of his in Tempe after a crazy night of karaoke. If you didn't know I've been traveling with my gf, and currently staying with Tango in Chandler, Arizona thanks to Avalon, so yes Avalon has done something very productive for myself in terms of networking.

And thanks for the positive support :) Namaste.

[Christo888]

So when Prometheus' body grew back after being plucked by an Eagle, how long did the body take to grow back? And would it entail the same energy that was observed in the 'Heather' .pdf (whether a hoax or not doesn't matter) that grew the muscle over an exoskeleton in the lab?

I am glad you are using Prometheus... this way Rockefeller won't be the only one to use that symbolism as if it belonged to him alone. :thumb_yello:

[GregorArturo]

So when Prometheus' body grew back after being plucked by an Eagle, how long did the body take to grow back? And would it entail the same energy that was observed in the 'Heather' .pdf (whether a hoax or not doesn't matter) that grew the muscle over an exoskeleton in the lab?

I am glad you are using Prometheus... this way Rockefeller won't be the only one to use that symbolism as if it belonged to him alone. :thumb_yello:

Hey thanks for the comment Christo but I don't get the Heather pdf thing. His body grew back everyday, and was pecked to death once everyday, as it was an ongoing cycle. Different myths say though he was eventually released as seen in Aeschylus' play Prometheus Bound (one of ancient Greece's best pieces in my opinion).

[Christo888]

Hey thanks for the comment Christo but I don't get the Heather pdf thing. His body grew back everyday, and was pecked to death once everyday, as it was an ongoing cycle. Different myths say though he was eventually released as seen in Aeschylus' play Prometheus Bound (one of ancient Greece's best pieces in my opinion).

The muscle growing in the lab didn't have a stomach full of food! The 'River of Life' is always flowing and whatever combination of elements and substances within an environment will blink into being through cause and effect of such. New species of life forms are popping into existence all the time, why? All Tesla did was create a contraption that magnified, focused, and harnessed what already exists... modeled off of the physical body!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sustainability is dependent on magnifying Potential and neutralizing Entropy.

It is why there is a secret war for possession of the Earth... there is a power on Earth that does not exist in Space. And tptb do not want anyone to realize this understanding.

The Creational Fire.

[GregorArturo]

New Vid update - Fractal Reality

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[GregorArturo]

Two part video on Spheres, Platonic Solids, & Vortexes

Part 1
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Part 2
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[GregorArturo]

Magnetic Flow & the Human Capacitor

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[GregorArturo]

Replicating the Geometry of Space

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[cueballri]

software, windows application developed calculators especially in the engineering field if we could collaborate that would be great. If you have the formulae I can automate.

[GregorArturo]

software, windows application developed calculators especially in the engineering field if we could collaborate that would be great. If you have the formulae I can automate.

Thank you Cueballri. However, I am not really using any formulas. I am working with two-dimensional to four-dimensional geometry. At the best the formulas I am using are all ratios, one of the most useful being phi, the golden ratio 1.618.

[Clarityofawareness]

So we're talking about how different shapes affect our reality and how we could form something like that into free energy?

[GregorArturo]

Yes, I am about to post another vid within the hour that discusses how to theoretically do this, along with promote a collaborative discussion on the concept, with using the vector equilibrium, which is intertwined with the merkaba.

[GregorArturo]

Vector Equilibrium Vortex Engine

Part I
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[GregorArturo]

Merkaba Vortex Engine

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[dolphin]

hi gregor, i think what you're doing is commendable!

i just wanted to let you know that it made me remember a youtube video of Bashar(et hypbrid channeled through daryl anka). he answered a question in the audience about zero point energy and he gave a clue. it had something to do w 2 inverted equilateral triangles, the same angle degree that the great pyramids have. (the large cone shape base at one side and the other facing the other way). anyway he said that by inverting the two triangles you create a vortex energy.

it's late and haven't had time to see your video's you posted on this thread.

if i can find that video of bashar, i'll post it.

[daci]

Hi Gregor!

I am not into the geometry and that stuff...I am retired musician, violinist, but...you are awesome!!! I enjoy watching your presentations very much... You are so young and so talented...The world is yours! Don't stop!!!

Take care!

Namaste,
Majda

[daci]

Yes Dolphin, I remember Bashar, he was talking also something like this...I am listening Bashar now the third year...have a lot of his videos from 95 till now. He is unique!!! He is the Law!

Namaste,

Majda

[dolphin]

hey daci, i'm a huge bashar wannanbe... cause he's just amazing! i can't seem to get enough of listening to him. i'm always looking for more new youtube videos of him.

i'm trying to live my life w his wise principles, it's just so positive. :original:
sorry gregor, didn't mean to get off topic.

[Aztar]

Great videos Gregor.
Keep up the good work.

[pr0metheu5]

I suppose given my moniker I should be a part of this.

very interested in ZP, magnetics etc.

how can i help?

[GregorArturo]

I suppose given my moniker I should be a part of this.

very interested in ZP, magnetics etc.

how can i help?

Haha, great to hear from you pr0metheu5. What I am most interested in is people sharing their ideas about some of the concepts I am presenting, either piggy backing off me or pointing me in a new direction, or generating conversation on an entirely new concept (still related though to free energy and sacred geometry obviously).

I hitchhiked up to Sedona a couple days ago, and should be back at Tangos in Phoenix in a week to make more tech vids so keep a watch out.

[Clarityofawareness]

Ok i think I might understand what your saying here. Because I have a large pyramid in my home that I put shtuff under in order to charge it with energy or balance the energy of that shtuff. I put 3 gallon containers of water, my razor blades ( for shaving ), fruit and things that need to have their energy be more balance energy.

BY the way everyone, please don't bother telling or preaching to me that such does not work for me. I and a few others experience what our pyramid does at least, not you. Mainly because you don't live in my home, lol. Especially don't bother telling me that I'm some how attempting to prove that pyramids can do anything for anyone. If anything, all my posts & threads on this forum concern your being more aware. After that do with what you please.

I look at such experiences like I do my various psychic abilities... they are mostly here for my own self proving and experience. Although I am looking into my own business for utilizing such abilities to help others.

At any rate, so is something like the pyramid power I use what we're talking about? That different shapes promote frequency or energy?

Kevin

[GregorArturo]

At any rate, so is something like the pyramid power I use what we're talking about? That different shapes promote frequency or energy?

Kevin

Hey Kevin, essentially the answer to your question is yes. All matter is energy. There is no true differentiation, and in all honesty it's just energy not matter. Organizing that energy in specific geometric patterns makes the energy fluctuate in different ways, but in the most simple notion, when energy is organized in a more efficient manner the total output of the energy within the system is increased.

A pyramid, especially when constructed in the context of phi such as the Pyramid of Giza, organizes the energy in the system in a very efficient manner which also generates a strong central vortex (five in total, one major in the center, four minor in the corners).

[JesterTerrestrial]

Awesome Work Gregor

Those are some cool models! Right on!

you should see some of the vortex devices and other inventions and stuff laying around at the isteam lab sometime. If you ever come to KaliCanada this summer let me know we can go hang out at the beach man! :D

Keep up the good work there is so much to be learned just blows my mind.

peace jt!

[Clarityofawareness]

I like getting down to the root cause of any challenges, don't you? I mean there always seems to be something more to anything we involve ourselves with yes? For example, the topic here is "Free Energy", that's a good start to get it all going, but what else is there to understand, know, perceive and especially explore and all of which that is related to this topic of discussion?

For those who chose awareness, who don't choke on blue pills (Matrix movie). Or those who chose being more open minds and heart, then the rest of this is for you.
How about something like, "how or why" our thoughts can become our physical reality. How/why do we see physical reality and process it being our reality? Figure that out and you'll not only probably (and more easily easily) figure out free energy, but you'll also most likely figure out the most optimum free energy for you to have and use in this physical world.

Why do we desire free energy? Because we exist in this particular place we call reality and free energy could help make our lives more optimum (something like that). Okay, but what is reality? I can give you my opinion though. First I know that I am eternal unlimited energy. This place I call reality is only my illusion or perception of it all. If you really think about it in this way... that "YOU" are your whole reality, then maybe your open to other possibilities as well.

One main reason why I am explaining something that others here may already understand is because I experience what so many people believe being "impossible for me to experience". For example, I sometimes manifest what I call TED's or thought energy devices. The only way to explain TED's is in a very limited way... through the english (or any other of today's languages) language.

Basically, I see all various forms of separation concerning the oneness of all reality. One way to do this is to understand all reality being a TED. Next, continue separating reality by naming things, people, places, ideas, time & space, past, present and future (just to name a few) For example everyone and everything is a "TED". Just as some cultures believe that everything has a spirit in it, is basically the same concept as TED's. Because you, as a TED operator, can program and reprogram almost any TED's in your reality. You can even program TEDs that are unknown to the majority of TED operators (people) and other beings). You can especially program TED's in different ways, such as your thought energy (thoughts, intentions, beliefs, non-beliefs and more). For example I've programmed my URD or Ultimate Radar Detector TED to automatically search and locate all ground and air speed traps up to 200 mile radius from my mobile (me driving my car) location. My URD has a few other programs, some concern "ultimate safety features". I constructed my URD in my mind and approved it through me higher self (god/universe). In other words, I meditated a lot and wrote down on paper concerning my many thoughts of it all. This included a lot of day dreaming for me as well. All until my URD became part of my existence. TED's could also be called "beliefs" or those ideas which you process into being more or less of your whole reality experience.

Sure it's good to talk about the possibilities of free energy being our reality experience but why not cover all other related possibilities as well? Such as who we all really are, we are all eternal unlimited beings. We are all our god like abilities. TED's are just one of the unlimited examples of such possible discussions concerning free energy. What about a collective of thought energy being combined to make free energy more than possible? That's what this thread is doing already, but how much or how further could this be taken?

I mean, if we were all to concentrate or focus our thought energy on us experiencing the most optimum free energy for our world... couldn't the reality of it really happen for us all? If you believe in parallel realities or quantum jumping (American Monk) or the book called The Secret, then why not parallel realities? How, why, when and where you enter and experience any parallel reality is up to you. Maybe each and every new moment is yet another parallel reality for us to experience? Because all reality is energy... FREE ENERGY that is constantly changing because it's also in motion, right? So nothing ever stays the same.

Why is it we all feel, think, believe, see, hear, sense that big oil is still being our reality experience? Because we all continually change so that big oil remains being our reality experience! Change your thought energy for free energy and then "be" that change you want to see in the world. Next thing you realize is that you exist in a reality just like this one here. Except free energy is now everywhere for all to have and utilize.

Please, let's continue talking about the shapes and their energy because more people could probably relate to that better than to thought energy or TED concept. Maybe somewhere down the road it will all meet and be one. Either way it all is or will be one at some point.

There is always a much easier way to explain what I have just explained here. If my ideas, concepts or beliefs are accepted then maybe we could evolve it all to operate with the free energy TED.

Kevin.

[Clarityofawareness]

I forgot who they are but they are those throughout history whom have found that certain shapes and size can do things to life and the environment around them. One fellow back in the 1700 or 1800's discovered something to that effect I think?

[GregorArturo]

Thanks Clarity for all the input. TEDs can go by many names. I refer to them as an entity, a singularity, or a (w)holon. I talked about it in the vids, and geometrically it can be considered a sphere, or a point.

I'm working on my rodin coil capacitor as we speak, and about to run to the store to grab some supplies. I got back to Tango's a couple days ago from Sedona. Hopefully some cool things can manifest.

In Sedona, I met someone who is going to be getting me Nassim Haramein's phone #. I made some great connects up there, and when I go back next week I am going to get introduced to a tesla scientist, a physicist, and the author David Hatcher Childress. The big connect was good friends with Ian Lungold also. Things are taking off...

[Clarityofawareness]

One way of "being" the reality that your heart and higher self know is your true path of education, is your continuing choice of "being" various perspectives. All of which are connections that can help you to be the reality. It's getting to the point where the parallel reality of global free energy is no longer a choice... it's happening and nobody can stop it. Those who would like to stop it are those who will continue fighting in that particular parallel, which is not longer our reality here.

Ok, so we exist in our reality (the free energy one) and those who don't believe, don't know or don't want any free energy now exist in their reality. It's all good because as beings of change we all chose what our reality experience is. We all do this in order to learn more and take with us on our journey of unlimited life experience (because we're all eternal unlimited energy as well).

So the spirit of free energy is with those who chose more connections to it. We do this via or thought energy (feelings, beliefs, non-beliefs, emotions, memories, intentions and other thoughts). Because like TED's everything has a spirit in it. Now that's just one possible way for some to understand how they can be (experience) the reality of free energy.

I would like to know how others here believe the reality of free energy being our reality now. For example, do you believe that there are unlimited versions of you existing in other realities that are connected to this reality here? If so then there are versions of you whom are expert free energy inventors.

Some of these versions of "you's" also know how to communicate with you here. Because they are also professional master spiritual guidance teachers. So that you to can easily connect to them and easily learn how to easily bring free energy into and as your reality experience here. Maybe you can do this through your imagination, meditation, day dreaming, creative writing, affirmations and more? I dunno cause I'm not you. Doesn't mean that we can not talk about all the possibilities though, yes? Either way, this thread is part of it all and I'm glad being part of it here.

Kevin

[GregorArturo]

The beginning of my work: The Rodin Coil Capacitor

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[Clarityofawareness]

How much more could we learn by experiencing the free energy concepts via a virtual world? I mean, if you were to construct a free energy device in something like Second Life, could me and others help as well? Help as in we all do virtual things to help make free energy more off line as well. Just a thought.

Kevin

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Looking good with that rodin coil gregor... Rodin was really the last person to really, irrevocably blow my mind.

Can't wait to see what you do next.

[GregorArturo]

Well one thing I'm thinking about is what frequency to run through the coil. I'm def going to try 32768 hz which is what quartz resonates at as I said in the vid. But there's also the 695 harmonic that Bruce Cathie talks about as gravitic acceleration. I am going to use Tango's rife machine to hook it up to. It does 75 volts with about an amp I think. I really want much higher voltage, but its something. Being it's a rife machine I can set the frequency.

And ya, even in second life this could work I suppose. The colloboration of ideas is what I am trying to do with this, besides just showing people what I am doing with my own research.

[GregorArturo]

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=9820

[GregorArturo]

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[dddanieljjjamesss]

Here are some other interesting rodin coil videos for anyone who may be interested




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now i'm really pumped to see what your quartz enhanced coil does :D

[GregorArturo]

Yeah, I've seen most of those vids, thanks for sharing! Especially for the ones I haven't seen. Anyways, one thing you'll also notice they're doing different with the coils is they are not taking the toroid geometry into consideration. They are using whatever they can to make the toroid, which does show that the pathway is most important, but the shape can make it much more efficient.

With my coil, the wire will always touch the surface of the toroid as there are no air gaps. The toroid also has mass which you want, also it being a diamagnetic substance. Oxygen gas is paramagnetic which you don't want as it will absorb the magnetic field and not aid with gravitic coupling. Also another reason I will be surrrounding the coil with distilled water.

[thetechguy]

Hello Gregor

It is a great job you are doing.

You said that this is colaborative task, and i agree , building some like this requires many skills, no body knows everything , so we must cooperate.

You are in the right track , i would like to support many of your concepts, as they are correct (in my oppinion at least)

I have some information, to share, but i dont like to bring much attention to me, now since you "open the can of worms" , lets continue your thread

I would like to say that your thread interested me because you talk about specific concepts, and thats the key to advance in this project.

Another thing that i noticed is that , it may be easier for you to be in contact with Nassim Harameim or Marko Rodin, and that is a key factor because they are one of the leading experts on the subject

Much of this information is already covered by
-Nassim Harameim
-Marko Rodin
-Tom Bearden, John Bedini
-Jesie Mercay, and VASTUVED institute
-Tom Valone
-John Searl
-Jeremy Stride
-David Wilcox
Just to mention a few modern researchers

You said that by the moment you are not using physics or math, i believe it is necesary to inlcude some of it on the explanation of concepts

The building of a free energy machine requires knowledge on
-Classical Physics
-Electromagnetism
-Modern Physics
-Quemistry
-Electronics
-Mecanical engineering
just to mention a few skills and knowledge

You will realieze (or maybe you have already) that producing free energy is not the difficult part
the hard time is producing a machine that is stable and that its safe for human use and that complies with all the goverment regulations for energy producing machines.

For a machine to engineerable, it must be measurable and predictable ,according to engineering tables and calculations, thats why physics is so important

it is important to describe all the fenomena from a point of reference , wich in this case will be the atom
The atom is the interface between the quantum energy flux and our material world

Nassim has done a great job describing the atom energy in a mesurable way , ant Tom Bearden has done a great research identifying the electromagnetic fenomena

Marko Rodin has done a great job identifying the mathematical cicle of the atom and the electro magnetic interactions

Now all this may sound complex for the non initiated, but if we keep showing simple concepts after concepts, then eventually every one will undestand what we are talking about

If you are interested in me to contribuite, please let me know

Best regards

(forgive any typing errors english is not my native language)

[GregorArturo]

hey the techguy. Thanks for all the info you've shared.

Oh trust me, I am using physics and math but the concepts involve using geometry and the interaction between them, which yes, can be described with math and physics, but I don't need numbers to share the concepts. I am using a program called GeoGebra which is a 2D geometry program which I use for calculations and laying out the vortex geometry. I also did use a 3D modeling program called Maya which I have 10 years of experience with, however, the newest version I just got and it's not working at the moment.

Here's a pic I just took. Just finished the first circuit on the coil, now I'm going to wrap the 2nd one which should go by much quicker, then the fun begins!

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=9822

I plan to head to Sedona this coming Monday with the coil to do test runs with some researchers up there. I really need at least 10k volts to pump into it, which I might pull off myself by creating a new kind of transformer, a rodin coil transformer. I would wrap a rodin coil around a steel washer, with one circuit with say 10 windings, and the other with only one winding to step up the voltage, but in a much more efficient manner.

[GregorArturo]

It's finished! Oh what a beauty. Now I just need 10k plus volts...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=9823

[thetechguy]

Understood Gregor

Good luck on that trip

I would like to comment 2 things

1 about the voltage you need
have you tried a tv flyback transformer?
they produce a range from 15kv to 75kv, but with little current (a few miliamps)

If you need more power you could get yourself and old microwave oven transformer , those are heavy, and the convert from 110 volts to 3kv , but with 10 amps (very dangerous)

finally you could wind yourself one, but its alot of winding ( if you do the manual winding, could you post the calculation for the winding so that everybody can make use of it?)


2 About the research
We 2 types of research
a) to prove the overunity efect,
b) to convert that to some comercial usable power

About usable power.
We need power that is usable by every people with comercial devices ,like TVs, LapTops, Airconditionated etc

So need to have some reference parameters to convert the free energy to:

Alternating voltaje/current of 110-220 VAC , at 60-50hz
The power consumtion is measured for every device is in watts , so we need to know how to convert de quantum energy to that

In other words, every gain in the generator must be translated in Joules (work) so that we can have something usefull to produce

if calculate de micro or nano Joules for every atom interaction , then we have something to work with

there IS A LOT of information on free energy out there, but the important thing is to show concepts that lead to something usefull
(like the website on free energy devices of Patrick J. Kelly http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/)

I would like to add some concepts, and keep them as simple as possible, but i dont want to distract the attention of your main research

iif you agree,i I´ll be adding info that would expand what you are doing

[GregorArturo]

thetechguy, thanks again. By all means, post away. You are the exact type of individual I was looking for.

Are there any other type of devices that I could pick up at a store that has a decent transformer, maybe not as powerful, cause ya the 10 amps at that voltage scare me. I'd probably be just find with a half amp at that wattage, maybe even less. I could just go buy a microwave if need be, and thanks for the notion.

So about transformers, I really like the concept of using a rodin coil to make the transformer. I just need something iron or steel like that I can either bend such as ribar, or a metal washer. Now let's say the first circuit I ran it through ten windings, and the second circuit I only did once. The first circuit is carrying 100 volts at 1 amp, then the second circuit would be around 1k volts but most surely less than an amp due to leakage. The rodin coil transformer could really prevent leakage, I love the concept.

UPDATE NOTE: So I researched it myself, and realized I got it backwards. I have a DC frequency generator here at Tangos. If I set the duty cycle to 50%, would I be able to use a transformer on it do you know as you need a fluctuating current to transform the voltage?

What I want to initially prove is if I charge up the coil like a capacitor, will it rotate it keep rotating in the water? If so, then I have a concept in how I can utilize a spiraling wire geometry (cones) that goes in and out of the coil to power it. The negatively charged cone can have a magnet on the inside of it that can keep the capacitor charged. The question is how to keep the voltage up within the coil.

Also, if you can elaborate on the fly transformer you just mentioned that would be great. Otherwise I'm going to go research it right now.

Note: I forgot to post the pic of the finished coil which is now in my post above.

[GregorArturo]

Another idea: What about using a capacitor to charge the capacitor? If I use a HV capacitor, that keeps charging itself, and then releasing its charge into the Rodin Coil Capacitor to build up its charge with a high voltage?

[Richie]

Maybe a stun gun will work.Check a local pawn shop.

[GregorArturo]

Maybe a stun gun will work.Check a local pawn shop.

Thanks Richie for the idea. Stun guns ususally have anywhere from a 10k-100k volt capacitor, but I'd just find an old tv, microwave, or monitor if I wanted a decent capacitor to work with.

[GregorArturo]

Rodin Coil is complete...

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[mudra]

:mfr_omg: You certainly have been busy ..
Now I must catch up with all this .
VERY WELL DONE Greg :thumb_yello:

Love from me
mudra

[Richie]

Just another idea.Try placing a plant or small tree,like a pine tree in the torrid.
as you would know trees produce "juice" too.I just see a link due to your bodys effect on the coil.

[Christo888]

It's finished! Oh what a beauty. Now I just need 10k plus volts...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=9823

Oh Gregor!!!! Now I can see where the Candy Stripes come from!!!!!:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol:

Must be some kind of treat you are creating.:wink2:

Has it been 'in our face' all this time?:lmao:

:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

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:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol: Nice try!
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[GregorArturo]

:mfr_omg: You certainly have been busy ..
Now I must catch up with all this .
VERY WELL DONE Greg :thumb_yello:

Love from me
mudra

I hope you enjoy the vids and understand what the hell I'm talking about!

Just another idea.Try placing a plant or small tree,like a pine tree in the torrid.
as you would know trees produce "juice" too.I just see a link due to your bodys effect on the coil.

I've thought of this idea myself, only problem is getting the toroid over a plant. It would be much easier to put it over a plant that's just growing, and actually powering the coil should make the plant grow faster/efficiently.

Oh Gregor!!!! Now I can see where the Candy Stripes come from!!!!!:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol:

Must be some kind of treat you are creating.:wink2:

Has it been 'in our face' all this time?:lmao:

:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:


Haha, never thought about that, but ya it's right there in front of us. Great connection!

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I'm working on a new concept today to deliver power to the coil, and possibly even step up the voltage from a clue I got from someone about pyramids.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I see a lot of people on youtube trying to use the rodin coil to increase the electrical power and move a rod & axel, or spin a magnet or something, which from what it seems gives you a lot more power for a lot less, which is awesome as it is

but do you think anyone has tried getting it to spin itself?

i don't know what you would have to do with magnets or a way to do that in the water, but do you think it would have any effect? i think because the toroid would maintain its same shape, but increase its speed / vibration it may do something cool?

but i'm no scientist :D

[Curative]

Great going Gregor.

Maybe an idea to add a second (or more) coil(s), to help expand your experimental potential. Would also act as a backup in case you melt through the first one.

Looking forward to the test results, may the spirits of sacred science aid you in your quest :thumb_yello:

[GregorArturo]

I see a lot of people on youtube trying to use the rodin coil to increase the electrical power and move a rod & axel, or spin a magnet or something, which from what it seems gives you a lot more power for a lot less, which is awesome as it is

but do you think anyone has tried getting it to spin itself?

i don't know what you would have to do with magnets or a way to do that in the water, but do you think it would have any effect? i think because the toroid would maintain its same shape, but increase its speed / vibration it may do something cool?

but i'm no scientist :D

Excellent question. Yes that is my ultimate goal, and it doesn't seem like anyone has been working on it. Because if the coil starts spinning, there will be an immediately direct energy amplification. And in terms of free energy, it can be exponential, especially when applied to a feedback loop, where it would reach some theoretical maximum speed that would only be limited by the friction within the environment/system.

I began working on a new concept today about how to make the rodin coil capacitor maybe work more effectively. I was thinking about the atom, and how the rodin coil represents the electron cloud, while the center should represent the nucleus which is positively charged.

I began thinking about an octahedron after someone mentioned to me that its possible to use a pyramid to step up voltage. I also remember a year back hearing that the Roswell craft had an octahedron in the center of it. I figured out how to wire an electromagnet octahedron that could represent the nucleus. I am working on it right now, about to wire this moment while watching The Prestige go figure haha. More later.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Excellent question. Yes that is my ultimate goal, and it doesn't seem like anyone has been working on it. Because if the coil starts spinning, there will be an immediately direct energy amplification. And in terms of free energy, it can be exponential, especially when applied to a feedback loop, where it would reach some theoretical maximum speed that would only be limited by the friction within the environment/system.

I began working on a new concept today about how to make the rodin coil capacitor maybe work more effectively. I was thinking about the atom, and how the rodin coil represents the electron cloud, while the center should represent the nucleus which is positively charged.

I began thinking about an octahedron after someone mentioned to me that its possible to use a pyramid to step up voltage. I also remember a year back hearing that the Roswell craft had an octahedron in the center of it. I figured out how to wire an electromagnet octahedron that could represent the nucleus. I am working on it right now, about to wire this moment while watching The Prestige go figure haha. More later.


Awesome! I just watched Rodin's 2008 lecture on youtube, and was reading all of the negative, naysaying comments - as well as watching genuine attempts by people to figure out how to use the coil. And if you've seen rodin talk you know he gets "terse" as he says because he knows that people aren't totally getting it - even after 20 years of his effort. I was trying to figure out what everybody isn't getting.

So in short I almost didn't think that spinning the coil itself would do anything (just because I have no idea what I'm getting into here :lol3:) but I started asking myself "If everyone has it all backwards..." and then spinning the actual COIL made a lot more sense.

I really hope that's the thing everyone is missing! Man I'm PUMPED to see what happens.

[GregorArturo]

Great going Gregor.

Maybe an idea to add a second (or more) coil(s), to help expand your experimental potential. Would also act as a backup in case you melt through the first one.

Looking forward to the test results, may the spirits of sacred science aid you in your quest :thumb_yello:

Making the one coil to my theoretical specifications took me easily 12 hours of labor. I was pretty meticulous with it, so making another would be quite the endeavor again. However, I have definitely theorized since the beginning how two or more coils would interact with each other. I was particularly interested in using three coils to create a true and real triad, as I feel that's where some really mystical magic could take place.

[Christo888]

Making the one coil to my theoretical specifications took me easily 12 hours of labor. I was pretty meticulous with it, so making another would be quite the endeavor again. However, I have definitely theorized since the beginning how two or more coils would interact with each other. I was particularly interested in using three coils to create a true and real triad, as I feel that's where some really mystical magic could take place.

Interesting you should say that... reading some of the Billy Meier material years ago they (whoever wrote it) gave details about the craft landing with three landing gear pods or three marks left on the ground. And the grass grew in a counterclockwise direction at each landing pod or circular 'print' for months afterwards. Possibly due to disturbing the plants natural ability to determine where North and South is.

So a triad will make your grass grow funny or use it to fly with... Tango will like that!!

[GregorArturo]

Interesting you should say that... reading some of the Billy Meier material years ago they (whoever wrote it) gave details about the craft landing with three landing gear pods or three marks left on the ground. And the grass grew in a counterclockwise direction at each landing pod or circular 'print' for months afterwards. Possibly due to disturbing the plants natural ability to determine where North and South is.

So a triad will make your grass grow funny or use it to fly with... Tango will like that!!

I have a pendant that I usually always wear (I haven't lately as it's on hemp, and I need to make a new necklace). My best friend back in Maine made it for me out of silver through lost cast wax method (I believe that's what it's called) and gave it to me as a Xmas present when I was 18. The design naturally came to her, and she felt like I'd like it, but had no concept of what a triad was. Here is a digital illustration a recreated of it awhile back. I used it as my logo for things, and even made this really cool stamp I'd stamp things with.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=8&pictureid=9825

Eventually I realized that this symbol meant something, and I now consider it a very powerful sign from the universe. I also usually where my ammonite shell necklace too which is a spiral which was a gift from Claudia. I consider both to powerful symbols about our universe, the spiral and the triad, and are apart of my journey to understand the nature of the universe.

Note: Just realized this was my 555th post!!! Go synchronicity!!!

[Christo888]

I have a pendant that I usually always wear (I haven't lately as it's on hemp, and I need to make a new necklace). My best friend back in Maine made it for me out of silver through lost cast wax method (I believe that's what it's called) and gave it to me as a Xmas present when I was 18. The design naturally came to her, and she felt like I'd like it, but had no concept of what a triad was. Here is a digital illustration a recreated of it awhile back. I used it as my logo for things, and even made this really cool stamp I'd stamp things with.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=8&pictureid=9825

Eventually I realized that this symbol meant something, and I now consider it a very powerful sign from the universe. I also usually where my ammonite shell necklace too which is a spiral which was a gift from Claudia. I consider both to powerful symbols about our universe, the spiral and the triad, and are apart of my journey to understand the nature of the universe.

Note: Just realized this was my 555th post!!! Go synchronicity!!!

Interesting huh!

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Or is there always one that goes against the grain... just to mix it up a bit.:lmfao:

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[idunno]

i didnt read t GA his thread. ..see (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1016544/pg1)

[GregorArturo]

i didnt read t GA his thread. ..see (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1016544/pg1)

I looked at the thread, and the top post obviously refers to my work, but the rest some seems related others not. A little confused in all honest, including what you specifically just said idunno. Any other input would be nice.

[GregorArturo]

I designed a new coil which I believe relates to the Roswell craft as it was noted by someone to have an octahedron frame in the center of it. The coil I theorize upsteps voltage, but I have yet to properly test it. Claudia and I are leaving for Sedona in the morning. We actually have a ride up with friends so shucks no hitchhiking, but we got an invite to stay on an organic farm/ranch to help out for a week in exchange for a place to stay. And hopefully I will get to collaborate with researchers sooner than I expect :)

mJaH2n4aEkY

[thetechguy]

thetechguy, thanks again. By all means, post away. You are the exact type of individual I was looking for.

Are there any other type of devices that I could pick up at a store that has a decent transformer, maybe not as powerful, cause ya the 10 amps at that voltage scare me. I'd probably be just find with a half amp at that wattage, maybe even less. I could just go buy a microwave if need be, and thanks for the notion.

So about transformers, I really like the concept of using a rodin coil to make the transformer. I just need something iron or steel like that I can either bend such as ribar, or a metal washer. Now let's say the first circuit I ran it through ten windings, and the second circuit I only did once. The first circuit is carrying 100 volts at 1 amp, then the second circuit would be around 1k volts but most surely less than an amp due to leakage. The rodin coil transformer could really prevent leakage, I love the concept.

UPDATE NOTE: So I researched it myself, and realized I got it backwards. I have a DC frequency generator here at Tangos. If I set the duty cycle to 50%, would I be able to use a transformer on it do you know as you need a fluctuating current to transform the voltage?

What I want to initially prove is if I charge up the coil like a capacitor, will it rotate it keep rotating in the water? If so, then I have a concept in how I can utilize a spiraling wire geometry (cones) that goes in and out of the coil to power it. The negatively charged cone can have a magnet on the inside of it that can keep the capacitor charged. The question is how to keep the voltage up within the coil.

Also, if you can elaborate on the fly transformer you just mentioned that would be great. Otherwise I'm going to go research it right now.

Note: I forgot to post the pic of the finished coil which is now in my post above.


Hello Gregor
I haven´t had chance to keep up (due to my job)

Now i would like to comment a few things

About any other device to get high voltage
Maybe you could use an old car tesla coil, the produce form 3k to 15k volts, pulsed of course, the advantaje with them, is that the voltage is not frecuency dependant, you could use your pulse generator to trigger it.

About making a transformer
Yes , the ratio in turns primary-secundary coils determine the voltage amplification, but, the primary winding must be "tuned" to the input voltage and frecuency
The imput coil must have sufficient reactance (aparent resistance) to hold the input voltaje. even working at 32khz requieres more than 1 winding,
I wouldn´t recomend using another Rodin coil as steping up voltage transformer because it complicates the design, for now, i recommend to keep it as simple as possible
Try using a simple transformer as a voltaje amplificator, you can use pulsed current with 50% duty cycle,
For the primary winding you can use a simple calculation for it , like
winding resistance = L x F ( you will need a inductance metter, )
a practical number would for a primary coil could be 30 to 40 turns, wich work well with 32khz
For the secundary wining you could use the simple faraday rule V= f x N x B
(v= voltage, f= frecuency ,N = number of turns , B= magnetic density)
For practical use, at high frecuency , you would need at least 1000 turns in the secundary

About the rotating coil
There is one thing i have learned about the quantum flux and matter
Yes , the quantum flux (the moving ether) is dynamic and is moving in vortex like motion
But it manifest it self like STATIC on the phisical world,
So the ether flux will be spinning inside the coil but , it will be a STATIC force on the outside
in Practical terms , as far i have experimented, ,the coil WILL MOVE, but only for a moment until all the atoms around are alligned to the vectors of the vortex, and then thats it
As far as i kown, the matter , and it´s relative position is the result of a standing point on that is created due to the in-out ether flux.
The flux is dynamic , but the standing point is STATIC
To keep rotating, you must KEEP PULSING the electric current on the coil, and it will keep spining
Two conditions are needed for this
a) each pulse must be inverted ( + - to - +) so that the atoms will be realligning them selfs all the time ,causing motion on the matter ( the coil in this case)
b)the input enery of the pulse must be less than the mecanical energy obtained from the rotating coil
This point is possible due to the overunity effect of the Rodin coil , wich is as far as Rodin claims , and we know, 62.5% more magnetic energy out,than that we put in

About the fly back transformer
You just can simply rip it apart from an old tv set, and connect the pulse generator to the primary winding, (you can find this winding easily, on side is connected to the colector of the horizontal transistor and the other side is connected to ground)
Varing the frecuency varies the output voltage

Hope this helps for know

[thetechguy]

Excellent question. Yes that is my ultimate goal, and it doesn't seem like anyone has been working on it. Because if the coil starts spinning, there will be an immediately direct energy amplification. And in terms of free energy, it can be exponential, especially when applied to a feedback loop, where it would reach some theoretical maximum speed that would only be limited by the friction within the environment/system.

I began working on a new concept today about how to make the rodin coil capacitor maybe work more effectively. I was thinking about the atom, and how the rodin coil represents the electron cloud, while the center should represent the nucleus which is positively charged.

I began thinking about an octahedron after someone mentioned to me that its possible to use a pyramid to step up voltage. I also remember a year back hearing that the Roswell craft had an octahedron in the center of it. I figured out how to wire an electromagnet octahedron that could represent the nucleus. I am working on it right now, about to wire this moment while watching The Prestige go figure haha. More later.


Hello Gregor
If i may, i would like to make a comment for clarity, for the analisis of the energy
I agree with you about the atom model, the Rodin coil represents the electron cloud wich is a mathematical flux of ether energy

About the proton, for clarity, i suggest to see it as Nassim and Rodin has suggested
As Nassim said, the proton is in reality, not a positive mass, but a miniblack hole. He describes this on his award winning paper "the schwarzchild proton"
In this paper ,Nassim establishes using known physics, that the proton satisfies the schwarzchild condition for a black hole
The black holes are the greatest sources of gravity, and the also bend or capture electromangetic signals
So the miniblack hole AKA "proton" , is the source of the contraction of the atom, and the source of its mass gravitiy force
Rodin calls this the blackhole/whitehole relation
Rodin also claims that his coil is in reality a black hole generator, which produces also a supervortex , mathematically ordered
the PHI relation between expansion force and contraction force is what generates spiraling vortexes, or logaritmic spirals


This is VERY IMPORTANT becasuse this "mini black hole" will be one of the sources of our free energy generator
Nassim says that "if the universe is expanding , then something must be contracting, there must be a feedback loop between the radiated side and the contracting side"
(http://www.theresonanceproject.org/)

The same applies to the atom, because ,according to Nassim, the galaxy and the atom , work the same way


So we must include in our calculations, this "contracting energy" on the Rodin coil , and not just the "positive" energy of the magnetic flux due to the flow of the electrons .
Tom Bearden , call´s this , "the negative energy" , http://www.cheniere.org


I will be including some more of my ideas as they are relevant to your research

[GregorArturo]

Thanks thetechguy for all your info. I read it awhile ago, but haven't had a chance to respond. I've been real busy since I've arrived in Sedona. A lot of what you said I knew already or I just recently researched myself (as in transformers) but most of it is an excellent reminder for me as we all get caught up in tangents, especially your second post. I would really like you to stay involved. Posting on YouTube would be of real help as I feel that's where the discussion/collaboration is really going to take off.

However, since Avalon #1 is coming down, and I have no interest in participating in PA2, discussion can continue on the Mists of Avalon in the Free Energy section (http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.net/?mforum=mistsofavalon&showtopic=191) and also on YouTube.

I have still been keeping up on my research, and plan on making an octedheral type II coil, as I made a type I previously. The first runs on DC, the second on AC, and I have decided to go the alternating current route. I have also designed a theoretical new antenna based purely on the phi ratio as displayed below.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=9836

As many can see, this is directly related to the Christian Cross. Each segment is divided at the phi ratio (1.618). It's a 2D fractal form of the divine section essentially. In 3D, the cross would be pointing in all six directions, now just four. That means there would only be one central access as pictured but the side segments would be replicated into all four directions which would by lined up to the cardinal points and then planted, just like a tree (each branch in a tree branches out at the phi ratio). The lower section of the cross represents the root system and would ground the antenna. The idea is to tune into the Schumann resonance of the earth, most likely a harmonic/overtone as 7.83hz is a very low frequency, and use it to power a rodin coil. However the rodin coil as it's a toroid is a perfect dipole transmitter which can than rebroadcast the signal for the antenna to recollect (It creates a localized vortex). The system will basically keep charging itself from whence charge can be eventually drained out. I plan to use the octahedral coil in the system hopefully to keep amping up the voltage to increase the efficiency.

[GregorArturo]

Thanks thetechguy for all your info. I read it awhile ago, but haven't had a chance to respond. I've been real busy since I've arrived in Sedona. A lot of what you said I knew already or I just recently researched myself (as in transformers) but most of it is an excellent reminder for me as we all get caught up in tangents, especially your second post. I would really like you to stay involved. Posting on YouTube would be of real help as I feel that's where the discussion/collaboration is really going to take off.

However, since Avalon #1 is coming down, and I have no interest in participating in PA2, discussion can continue on the Mists of Avalon in the Free Energy section (http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.net/?mforum=mistsofavalon&showtopic=191) and also on YouTube.

I have still been keeping up on my research, and plan on making an octedheral type II coil, as I made a type I previously. The first runs on DC, the second on AC, and I have decided to go the alternating current route. I have also designed a theoretical new antenna based purely on the phi ratio as displayed below.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=9836

As many can see, this is directly related to the Christian Cross. Each segment is divided at the phi ratio (1.618). It's a 2D fractal form of the divine section essentially. In 3D, the cross would be pointing in all six directions, now just four. That means there would only be one central access as pictured but the side segments would be replicated into all four directions which would by lined up to the cardinal points and then planted, just like a tree. The lower section of the cross represents the root system and would ground the antenna. The idea is to tune into the Schumann resonance of the earth, most likely a harmonic/overtone as 7.83hz is a very low frequency, and use it to power a rodin coil. However the rodin coil as it's a toroid is a perfect dipole transmitter which can than rebroadcast the signal for the antenna to recollect (It creates a localized vortex). The system will basically keep charging itself from whence charge can be eventually drained out. I plan to use the octahedral coil in the system hopefully to keep amping up the voltage to increase the efficiency.