And we are Back...

[Tango]

And we are Back... Your thought Please...




Trooly


Tango




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[Swanny]

About bloody time

[Debby]

I would like a statement from kerry and bill both

[Church]

Is it okay to post in here? Or is the forum gonna get shut down again? Sometimes, you just gotta shut a website down to teach people a lesson about free speech.

[SteveX]

Here here....speech required from both parties please :lightsabre:

[I_Am]

We certainly need a lot more heart and respect in the Forum.
Not so much of judgeing.

Love. Respect. Listening.


So that 1 + 1 may equals 2.25 (at least).


/I Am

[K626]

We have been traumatised by this whole event and immediately require a debreifing in a warm room with a cuppa. :original:

[SteveX]

219 & Soleil heres a link.....knock yourselves out

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php?groupid=86

[gita]

Nice to be back hey?

Statement from bill here;

http://fredsitelive.com/personal/CurEvents/bill_ryan_re_avalon.html

[Aztar]

I would like a statement from kerry and bill both

Well here is Bill's Side http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20496

Guess we have to wait on Kerry's

[rhythm]

http://highdramapro.com/Home_files/HIGH%20DRAMA%20%20SERVICES%20LOGO%20web%20@300%20. jpg

O! drama where would we be without it :naughty:

[Aztar]

Bet we will hear something on PC radio.
You might have to read between the lines though.

[waitinginthewings]

In the chat room, I said they would resolve things and the forum would be back up. I'm happy its back.

But I have to say that some members did not show their best side during the chats. That was disappointing......:nono:

[josie]

http://highdramapro.com/Home_files/HIGH%20DRAMA%20%20SERVICES%20LOGO%20web%20@300%20. jpg

O! drama where would we be without it :naughty:

ya but taught me a good lesson. quit hiding my light under a bushel ;) missed all my friends!

[Phoenix]

Statement from bill here;

I dont think it is a statement, he was just updating the room as to why PA was shut down. Im sure there will be a statement in due course.

[Harper]

All with wrists suitably slapped, we now need to get on with the business of being ourselves and allowing others to do the same. No babies though, if you say something expect everyone to challenge you. Like in life when you make up a fairy story about sleeping with Angelina Jolie --ya better have pictures hehehehe

So glad we not not dealing with the other jumpy maniacal chat thing!! I thought my eyes put jump out for safety.

Hello all

[Debby]

Well here is Bill's Side http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20496

Guess we have to wait on Kerry's

I saw that 9 hours ago, but looking for a official statement from both

[josie]

All with wrists suitably slapped, we now need to get on with the business of being ourselves and allowing others to do the same. No babies though, if you say something expect everyone to challenge you. Like in life when you make up a fairy story about sleeping with Angelina Jolie --ya better have pictures hehehehe

So glad we not not dealing with the other jumpy maniacal chat thing!! I thought my eyes put jump out for safety.

Hello all

spot on my friend. thank you!

[Majorion]

Nice to be back hey?

Statement from bill here;

http://fredsitelive.com/personal/CurEvents/bill_ryan_re_avalon.html

The situation is not so shocking, and I entirely believe this was Bill speaking here, as evident by the choice of words and writing style.

Off to the dedicated thread :original:

[Aztar]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn179/Nazrudin/drama.jpg


"It's just a ride"

[HORIZONS]

http://highdramapro.com/Home_files/HIGH%20DRAMA%20%20SERVICES%20LOGO%20web%20@300%20. jpg

O! drama where would we be without it :naughty:

Very funny. Got a good laugh on this one :-)

[waitinginthewings]

After reading what Bill said, I can only imagine the level of stress that they are both going through. What they & Camelot is up against is no picnic. Try walking in their shoes & dealing with what they are up against.

I applaud both of them for everything that they have brought to us and the rest of the world.

They too are human beings with their own challenges & more, just like us.

[tron]

Good point of observation..
Imagine being in either of there shoes...
Your audience/classroom being the most observant &
aware people in the world!

We at PA are not exactly an Oprah show audience/classroom..
:original:

then there's the whole "trying to be infiltrated/TEMPTED by the PTB" thing

[Northern Boy]

my thoughts do you really want to know ?.....Ok Why does Kerry who has spent more time on Sinclairs forum then this one in the last year feel the need to interject herself NOW in an attempt to sway some one to accept her view of what is and isn`t relevent . That is for those here to decide . AS far as the topic goes it is what it is those it doesn`t sit with hAVE THE CHOICE OF NOT BOTHERING WITH IT. I have steered clear as there seems to me to be alot of confusion as to its message is. If the message can`t be understood in simple terms then to me it is misinfo or disinfo or the messanger needs to find a better way to deliver it so even the smallest child could capture its meaning

The need to shut down this forum was just a play on DRAMA :trumpet: perpetrated by the one who ordered it and we have seen enough drama emenating from other sites that at one time were linked to this one . The need to shut this forum down was way over blown:wall: and it could have remained open whilre this was sorted out behind the scenes but for whatever reason some one felt the need to create DRAMA and thus news o0f it has now spread over the net . So I have to ask what were you thinking letting an overblown ego jump into the picture here :mfr_omg:? Feel free to answer if time permits . Rant over

[rhythm]

We certainly need a lot more heart and respect in the Forum.
Not so much of judgeing.

Love. Respect. Listening.


So that 1 + 1 may equals 2.25 (at least).


/I Am

Deffinitley:wub2:

[josie]

my thoughts do you really want to know ?.....Ok Why does Kerry who has spent more time on Sinclairs forum then this one in the last year feel the need to interject herself NOW in an attempt to sway some one to accept her view of what is and isn`t relevent . That is for those here to decide . AS far as the topic goes it is what it is those it doesn`t sit with hAVE THE CHOICE OF NOT BOTHERING WITH IT. I have steered clear as there seems to me to be alot of confusion as to its message is if the message can`t be understood in simple terms then to me it is misinfo or disinfo or the messanger needs to find a better way to deliver it so even the smallest child could capture its meaning

The need to shut down this forum was just a play on DRAMA :trumpet:perpetrated by the one who ordered it and we have seen enough drama emenating from other sites that at one time were linked to this one . The need to shut this forum down was way over blown:wall: and it could have remained open whilre this was sorted out behind the scenes but for whatever re4ason some oner felt the need to create DRAMA and thus news o0f it has now spread over the net . So I have to ask what were you thinking letting an overblown ego jump into the picture here :mfr_omg:? Feel free to answer if time permits . Rant over

i agree with you but for me, anyway, it was a good wake up call to quit being so shy and taking this place for granted... which i'd been doin

[Freedom]

We are all being tested......

the closer the goal....

the more obsticles.....

Lets all send as much LOVE as
we can muster out to them.....

Namaste......Freedom

[Northern Boy]

We are all being tested......

the closer the goal....

the more obsticles.....

Lets all send as much LOVE as
we can muster out to them.....

Namaste......Freedom

maybe!...... but one does not help themselves by throwing obsticles in ones path or the paths of others

[gita]

Lets not curse the darkness

Light a candle
Much love to all and may all our energies become lighter again. xx:wub2::wub2:

http://suicideandmentalhealthassociationinternational.org/img/ANIMATED_CANDLE.gif

[metaw3]

I read what Bill said in the chat room.
http://fredsitelive.com/personal/CurEvents/bill_ryan_re_avalon.html

This is about money. If you want to put yourself in Kerry's and Bill's shoes, you first have to picture yourself with bills to pay and no income from your venture.

The Thuban issue (to which I think the solution is just about apologizing) is a minor issue used as a cover for the real one, hinted at by Bill on the PC homepage. I think what is urgent right now is that Kerry and Bill gets money from a neutral investor who wants to keep them together. Nothing can be solved wisely as long as immediate financial problems influence the founders. After that, apologies can occur.

The thing is that this Burns fellow, whether he is an agent or not, actually offers the real solution: Camelot needs a realistic business model, not based on donations.

This venture is way past volunteering. It's time to get real and care about money. Do you think that Kerry would even listen to a guy who says she has to split with Bill, if they both had plenty of money to take their time to sit together and plan something?

I'm sorry but this moneyless world where everyone has a secret intuition of the value of everything, there is no way it is going to happen (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20378). It's only in your dreams.

Add money to the equation here and all problems are solved. No more drama. None of this would have happened if Kerry first, then Bill, would have had enough money to not care about their own bills and the funding of PC. And no agent would have been able to infiltrate.

[yiolas]

I'M SO..... GLAD WE'RE BACK. I'M NOT JUST READY YET TO CUT THE CORD.

AS FAR AS BILL AND KERRY'S DIFFERENCES ARE CONCERNED, I'M AN ARDENT BELIEVER IN 'WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY'

I know that B&K have a lot on their plate. Next time though I hope they don't take out on us.

[rhythm]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Uo1_EKKi1i8/SeWYsbb29HI/AAAAAAAADKE/paYZuMe1Z7Y/s400/Candle+Light+Heart.jpgEvertime this forum closes

goes down ... i usaualy notice

a greater appreciation .. ...

of what can be taken for granted

were all in this together right...

tho somtimes we seem to need to have the odd

fight :wall:dissagreement .. misunderstanding...

and even thats ok ... all love to you rhythmmm

[yiolas]

METAW3, I agree with what you have to say completely. Unfortunately, we still have one foot in 3d where money makes the world go round. Money or the lack there of still controls 80 % of my existance.

[rhythm]

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[waitinginthewings]

METAW3, I agree with what you have to say completely. Unfortunately, we still have one foot in 3d where money makes the world go round. Money or the lack there of still controls 80 % of my existance.

Agreed, the money problems, plus the constant attacks against the forum. TPTB always lurking & trying to bring down PC/PA. On top of all that, they have a membership that frequently criticizes or judges their every move. There seems to be very few that show any gratitude for B/K work & the risks they take with their lives to bring us the info.

It is so easy to be an armchair critic, but really, how many of us would go out and do what they do?

[Northern Boy]

AGENT or not

I`ll pass on anything an agent requests of myself and those wishing to follow him or his direction best of luck to you I wonder if some have learn`t anything . Everything you buy has a hidden lien on it everything . Those notes you use TO BUY THINGS belong to a reserve bank hence all your purchase`s ARE THEIRS, your home if paid for is theirs as is your clothes car everything down to the last bread crumb. Think about it if it was never yours then how can you own anything look at a one dollar bill some where on the American dollar it says property of the Federal Reserve this means what ever you purchased you did so as an agent of that entity and as such they own it .

[kriya]

There is a lot of truth and love on this thread. :nono: Save Project Camelot:nono:

Love,

Kriya

[JesterTerrestrial]

Yes i think there is much appreciation for this place once its gone!

I think many of you know my feelings on avalon and what it stand for!

I spent time listening to the chat in avalon chat to the people of avalon. They were upset. Felt left out in the cold as if the people that founded this place don't care about the members here. Our community was shut down and our ability to communicate was disrupted. However the energy of the posts in the chat reminded me of the good ol days when the doors to this place fist opened.

Charged with emotion! OMG People we are on the front lines. Its not easy out here and without the support from our friends were would we be?

Standing alone! Screaming for change on our planet!

Bill and Kerry are real people who have done so much for us all. In a time not so long ago there were few people able to gain a voice with as much volume as Camelot! I hope that we can forget the noise and move forward with the original goals in mind. How and what to do with all these changes we all face.

I support both Bill and Kerry in what ever they do and hope that for the obvious greater good of the community that we can come to some kind of conclusion and mover forward to a better world! We are all allowed to freak out from time to time and I hope that lessons will be learned from this.

Here is what I suggest to do.

GRAB THE SWORD OF TRUTH AND START SWINGING IT AROUND

PEACE!!! AVALON!!!

I will wait to hear official posts from those involved before I consider my membership here any farther.

[metaw3]

Those notes you use TO BUY THINGS belong to a reserve bank

You are confusing the money principle and the debt money system. I am talking about the principle, you are talking about the system. I am not promoting debt money.

[Stargazer1965]

I hate behind closed door stuff so...

Kerry (without her authority hat) says not to shut down Thuban
Bill say (without his authority hat) that it should be shutdown
Anchor apologizes for shutting it down
Thuban is shut down

Something is not adding up...........

[Northern Boy]

what I am stating is why are some here in higher up positions still chasing that which has no value like it may make them important by doing so?

[metaw3]

Ok I get you NB. I think it's because you get desperate when you can't pay your bills, and you look for solutions. PC has good coporate potential now. Kerry sees it as a financial solution and wants to go corporate. Bill is probably in better shape financially or at least less panicking, so he does not want to let the spirit of their project be altered yet by the corporate model. Why sell or invest if you hate the corporate way and feels you can still thrive without it? But now that Kerry sees this as a solution she has to worry much more than Bill about things like lawsuits and personal image, hence they're not playing the same game anymore. Bill is still fooling around. Kerry is surviving and it's damn serious.

She just posted that she's splitting with Bill:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/search.php?do=finduser&u=7

[Sideshow Shaman]

I would have to disagree concerning corporations being a valid model for anything except generating profit. The entire function of the corporate model is so that the government can have more control over the entity. The corporate model is also the easiest model to subvert, control the top positions & it's all over.

Here are some examples of entities that are not corporations. The New York Stock Exchange, The American Bar Association (hint: association), SIEU Union (with 2 million+ members).

Anyone interested in founding an activist oriented entity should be establishing an Unincorporated Association. (see also, unincorporated non-profit association, UNA).

Want the advice of someone that has seen a few organizations come and go? Absolutely DO NOT incorporate.

[tone3jaguar]

Having been watching Kerry become more paranoid and sensationalistic over the past 6 months or so, this is really not a shocker for me. I actually had no idea what was going on with the forum. Now that I have read that it was shut down by Ms. "we are all one except when I say so", it all makes sense now.

I don't buy the motivation of hers to do this Aussie thing as being about finances. She is glory hunting, I think it is fairly obvious. Not only that, her desire to be in control is showing us that she is choosing to head down the wrong timeline at exactly the wrong time. Seeing as how she likes to turn the Law of One into Dogma by evangelizing it, I think that we should all chip in an get her a hat that says.

STS

[rhythm]

Yes i think there is much appreciation for this place once its gone!

I think many of you know my feelings on avalon and what it stand for!

I spent time listening to the chat in avalon chat to the people of avalon. They were upset. Felt left out in the cold as if the people that founded this place don't care about the members here. Our community was shut down and our ability to communicate was disrupted. However the energy of the posts in the chat reminded me of the good ol days when the doors to this place fist opened.

Charged with emotion! OMG People we are on the front lines. Its not easy out here and without the support from our friends were would we be?

Standing alone! Screaming for change on our planet!

Bill and Kerry are real people who have done so much for us all. In a time not so long ago there were few people able to gain a voice with as much volume as Camelot! I hope that we can forget the noise and move forward with the original goals in mind. How and what to do with all these changes we all face.

I support both Bill and Kerry in what ever they do and hope that for the obvious greater good of the community that we can come to some kind of conclusion and mover forward to a better world! We are all allowed to freak out from time to time and I hope that lessons will be learned from this.

Here is what I suggest to do.

GRAB THE SWORD OF TRUTH AND START SWINGING IT AROUND

PEACE!!! AVALON!!!

I will wait to hear official posts from those involved before I consider my membership here any farther.

bummping all this good message jester (bring back the fool )

[morguana]

And we are Back... Your thought Please...




Trooly


Tango




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anyone up for forum ping pong?

love m x

[rhythm]

http://www.about-portlandor.com/wp-content/uploads/table_tennis_and_ping_pong1.jpg

yea!! me ! me !!

[Tango]

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I have used this before. It is an ideal place for today...


" The longer I live, the more I realize the Impact of attitude on life.

Attitude, to me, is more important than the facts... It is more important

than than the past, than education, than Money, than circumstances,

than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do.

It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or

break a company... a community... a home... The remarkable thing is we

have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day.

We cannot change our past... We cannot change the fact that people will

act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we

can do is play on the one string we have, and that is Our attitude...

ME, I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react

to it. And so it is with you... We, are in charge of our attitudes."

~ Charles Swindoll


Trooly,


Tango



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[mudra]

Remaining undisturbed in the middle of chaos is a strengh of Heart.

Love Always
mudra

[Astra]

I've been quite busy in the past few days ... did not have much time to spend on the Forum ... so many changes ahead ...


Remaining undisturbed in the middle of chaos is a strengh of Heart.

Love Always
mudra
:wub2: ...thanks dear mudra, this is so true ... :wub2:

sending Love to you all
Astra

[HaveBlue]

Kerry moving to Aussie makes real sense! ? :shocked: Airfares from there to the U.S.A and the rest of the world are expensive. It is a long way. The are not alot of whistleblowers in Aussie compared to the the U.S and Europe.

More astonishing is how important some people find this forum. Like it IS their lives! Whatever did they do before it went online a couple of years ago.

I will still listen to both B and K. It is after all the people being interviewed that is important. The opinions of B or K are secondary.

I will add that I find Bills opinions more worth listening to than Kerry's.
Bill is not into channeled information.
I aggree. Sewage is channeled too. Only one letter of difference between sewage and newage! Maybe that gives newsage. That takes us to newsagent that channels the newsage! :sneaky2:

[Tango]

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" ..The cream, Always, Rises to the Top.." I just THINK about, a successful transition..



Trooly,


Tango



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[Kulapops]

My thoughts are: that I'm glad the forum came back on for us. That was kind. They could have left it down until any disputes resolved.

I'm also glad that we are the ground crew. We will always be. In our hearts, whether the forum stays or goes. We put an energy into Avalon... this is not a forum but an ideal. And we give of ourselves to it, in whichever ways we do. Different people choose a different style to that giving, but the net result is growth.

I've been here over 18 months and one thing I notice is that the forum (well, the people on it actually) is more important than any of the videos. I've stopped watching them really, I don't want to know about that any more.

But people... can't get enough of them. And not only that, but the dreams, the desires, the human condition, to improve, to love, to be.

I still think we'd do well to remember that the forum was created for social networking. Not gossiping and not fear mongering either.

The greatest shame would be if this forum closes and we do not have the details of those we love to read. Hopefully the apparent fragility of this latest judder will encourage us to seek each other out in the real world a bit more.

Remember: That was the original purpose of Avalon; forming communities.

We're lucky that this really has grown into a community in that time, blessed with a lot of positive and happy energy.

That has a feeling of truth to it. The videos don't always generate that in me. It's also active, whereas watching videos is passive. So going forward, you will probably more likely find me here on the forum, than watching "camelot productions".

I'd love to read more posts from Bill and Kerry too. I'm glad Bill is handling the forum, I'm sure he's going to be a little more hands on from now on here...I hope Kerry still visits.

Love to you all....

Sorry for the long post Tango.. but you did ask !

K

[hippihillbobbi]

Tango, Mudra, Kulapops--

Just wanted to commend ya'll for reminding us of these lovely truths ..... the absolute necessity of utilizing our gifts to promote community, loving attitude (gratitude), tolerance, peace-in-the-midst-of-chaos, hope, healing, resurrection. To me, this is Avalon! :trumpet:
:original: :thumb_yello:

love,
hippihillbobbi