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viking
03-04-2010, 07:34 PM
MESSAGE FROM SANANDA


Greetings, chela. This is Esu Immanuel Sananda speaking to you. I am from the Realms of Light, and One with Creation/ Creator Source. I have requested a conversation with you at this time.

I know your thoughts and what things are important to you at this time. I shall begin.

You are wondering about the Spring Equinox and the ending of the “play”. That is, you are wondering what has been told you and Patrick through an e-mail that was sent to you, and also, what D told you concerning this time of year. I shall explain the following:

The evil on your planet has surpassed anything imaginable in any solar system in any Super-Universe in all the Cosmos. The Evil Ones has expanded their power and greed to the point of destruction of the Cosmos with their weaponry, their evil minds of control and greed. Yes, the Light wins, always. That is, their evil shall be stopped. They have not heeded their contract with Creator to come back to the Light, but have continued in their evil plans day after day, week after week, and years after years.

Anne: But we …

Sananda: Let me continue with my narrative at this point. It is not that there are people of the Light striving to take back your country and your world from the evil. The Constitutional lawyers working on NESARA have suffered unbelievable things against them in order to stop their work. They have made progress, but have lost and gained ground. The progress of NESARA is quite slow, but it is moving forward. I do not know when the Mission shall be complete. Will the Global Gold System come forth? Yes, but time is running out for both that and NESARA. The delays have caused great agony for Mother Earth. In the meantime, nail by nail, the coffin for the world is being made with more wars, and unbelievable destruction to Mother Earth planned, all in the name of power and control. Oh, the evil ones wish to “save Mother Earth”, but that means in their language to “save” Mother Earth for themselves with them in power and control, having all their needs and wants and duties performed by the few mind-controlled slaves they have allowed to live.

Mother Earth is not saved for anyone. She was created as a schoolroom, starting in 3D, for those souls wishing to learn their lessons. Mother Earth was NOT created for evil to control others, to have her raped and torn to bits by evil in order for them to gain all the power and control, killing off most of the humanity that has come to this schoolroom.

WELL, CHELA, THE LESSONS HAVE ENDED! CLASSES ARE OVER! THOSE, WHO HAVE COME FOR THEIR LESSONS HAVE LEARNED THEM. THE BOOKS HAVE BEEN STORED ON THE SHELVES. THE DOORS AND WINDOWS OF THIS SCHOOLROOM HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR THE SEASON AND THE CLASSES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

What do I mean by such a statement? The time has come when those would-be controllers have created their “indestructible” humanoid creatures in droves to be the army of killing of the people on this planet. They have developed technology that was to be used for good, but they have turned and used it for evil, for control and destruction.

I AM IN CHARGE OF THIS BELOVED MOTHER EARTH. I HAVE MET WITH MOTHER EARTH TO DECIDE WHAT MOVES WILL BE MADE. I AM NOT OVER-RULING FREEWILL, BUT HAVE WITH THE WISHES OF MOTHER EARTH AGREED TO STOP ANY FURTHER DESTRUCTION OF HER AND HER PEOPLE. THEREFORE, CLASSES ARE DONE. IT IS TIME TO COME HOME.

Now, chela, ask your question.

Anne: Did the controllers with their HAARP commit the crimes of the Haiti and Chile earthquakes?

SANANDA: They have tried to use their power and control to kill, to control, but it has been taken away from them. They started the China quake and the Indonesian quake that killed thousands. THEY HAVE BEEN WARNED. I HAVE STOPPED the HAARP and dismantled its power. They are interfering with the Cosmos, and THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE LIGHTWORKERS TO COME HOME. This means that the decision has been made by Mother Earth, and agreed by myself, that the cleansing shall begin very quickly. There are many, who do not believe Mother Earth will cleanse, but it is so at the end of every civilization.

I HAVE MOVED THE CHANGES TO THE SPRING EQUINOX, WHICH IS NOW UPON YOU. THE ENERGIES ARE INCREASING EVERY DAY. YOU CAN FEEL THE CHANGES COMING. THE PROCESS HAS BEGUN, CHELAS, AND THE RUMBLINGS OF MOTHER EARTH ARE GETTING GREATER EACH DAY. BE YE PREPARED TO COME HOME AT ANYTIME. KEEP YOU EYES OPEN, YOUR HEARTS IN TUNE, AND YOUR MINDS AND HEARTS WITH THE LIGHTED REALMS.

EACH DAY, DO YOUR DUTIES, WORK ON FOURWINDS, EAT HEALTHY, REST WELL, AND KEEP YOUR BODY AS HEALTHY AS POSSIBLE.

I TAKE LEAVE NOW, AND YOU MUST KNOW THAT I DWELL IN YOUR HUMBLE HOME AT ALL TIMES. THE SHIPS ABOVE YOU GUARD YOU AND YOUR HOME, GROUNDS, ABOVE AND BELOW THE SURFACE, KEEPING ALL THE EVIL TECHNOLOGY AT BAY.

NOW, CHELAS, I BID YOU GOODNIGHT. I WATCH OVER YOU ONES CONSTANTLY, AND GUIDE WHAT PATRICK WRITES AND WHAT IS POSTED TO FOURWINDS. YOUR WORK IS FINISHED, AND YOU ARE READY TO COME HOME. WE SOON SHALL ALL BE TOGETHER ABOARD SHIP.

I AM ESU (JESUS) IMMANUAL SANANDA FROM THE LIGHTED REALMS, ONE WITH CREATION / CREATOR SOURCE. SALU TO MY BROTHER AND SISTER.

March 3, 2010

Anne Bellringer


viking

Stardustaquarion
03-04-2010, 08:05 PM
MESSAGE FROM SANANDA


IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE LIGHTWORKERS TO COME HOME. This means that the decision has been made by Mother Earth, and agreed by myself, that the cleansing shall begin very quickly. There are many, who do not believe Mother Earth will cleanse, but it is so at the end of every civilization.


viking

So in other words the lovely channelers are telling us that we are going to die aren't they? :tongue2:

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmfao::lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

lightblue
03-04-2010, 08:16 PM
viking, in all honesty, do you take these messages seriously?
bw l :wink2:

Phoenix
03-04-2010, 08:24 PM
viking, in all honesty, do you take these messages seriously?

Im so bored with chanelled messages, all generic with no actual information.

THE eXchanger
03-04-2010, 08:42 PM
he would talk in 'we' not 'i'
and, NEVER, like this !!!

lightblue
03-04-2010, 08:45 PM
he would talk in 'we' not 'i'

why do you say that? thanks l







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Greetings
03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
Interesting. I've had an extreme urge to meditate on a california ley line for the spring equinox as early as january. Taken with a grain of salt, but very interesting nevertheless.

lightblue
03-04-2010, 08:57 PM
greeting gretings!


nice avatar!



your fellow cub l



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Northern Boy
03-04-2010, 08:59 PM
there is a big warning sign in this message that no one pays much attention to or ignores and that is NESARA a beautiful idea that on paper looks good but behind the scenes it is just a continuation of what we currently live under and some one will control the purse strings for sure

I thought the goal was to get away from this but I`m not hear to convince you of this we all make our choices that suit our needs best

viking
03-05-2010, 12:00 PM
viking, in all honesty, do you take these messages seriously?
bw l :wink2:

Not really I just put them on here for a laugh!! :naughty:

Just in case look to the skies...:winksmiley02:

Hey, I was going to put it on the GFL thread but couldn't find it!!!

viking

Steven
03-05-2010, 12:04 PM
Not really I just put them on here for a laugh!! :naughty:

Just in case look to the skies...:winksmiley02:

Hey, I was going to put it on the GFL thread but couldn't find it!!!

viking

Yup. He's testing our discernment skills, but we apparently are still at 101 class :naughty:.

Namaste, Steven

viking
03-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Yup. He's testing our discernment skills, but we apparently are still at 101 class :naughty:.

Namaste, Steven

:roll1:

viking

happy
03-05-2010, 12:20 PM
well ,
having watched and listened to all that i can , if this just got channeled its in alignment with plenty of other stuff that seems to be happening , maybe if you were in haiti or chile , you might see it a little differently . not saying its accuret or not , but possibly listen quietly . what responsible action are we all taking

Stardustaquarion
03-05-2010, 12:29 PM
well ,
having watched and listened to all that i can , if this just got channeled its in alignment with plenty of other stuff that seems to be happening , maybe if you were in haiti or chile , you might see it a little differently . not saying its accuret or not , but possibly listen quietly . what responsible action are we all taking

I actually think that it is with the 6th extincion all kill ptb agenda but you are right it is a valid agenda and the time line has not locked yet so it is a probability still

Lets hope they don't kill us yet:mad3::tongue2::mfr_lol:

Tali
03-05-2010, 02:32 PM
HAhAhA Crom laughs at your four winds.... Laughs from his mountain!

Fredkc
03-05-2010, 02:42 PM
Tali;
Sad news... you are now going to hell for sure!

He spells his name Krum. Boy I sure wouldn't want to be in your shoes

Viking;
"Sananda" huh?
Don't any of these mystical beings have last names?

I'm thinking it would sound much more convincing coming from, say....





(wait for it...)





Sananda Claus .


Fred

Stardustaquarion
03-05-2010, 03:29 PM
Sananda Claus


Fred

:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol::roftl::roftl: :roftl:

viking
03-05-2010, 04:10 PM
Hey, joking aside this article I found suggests a devastating quake on or around the 20th March which is the start of the Equinox as per message on this thread!!! :zip:

quote...
Cosmic Awareness is some sort of channeled entity, something each person must evaluate for him/herself. Personally, it really resonates with me, and this broadcast in particular. It isn't just a prediction of a major quake, but it is coupled with an explanation that makes a great deal of sense to me. But, if you want to know what that explanation is, you'll have to listen to the audio yourself!

For those who want "just the facts, ma'am," the specific prediction is for a massive quake on the West Coast, centered in Northern Calif. / Southern Oregon within one to two months (which would be no later than April 13, 2010). Based on this prediction, I am updating my own prediction made earlier today (http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/possible-timeline-for-marc...), so that I now believe the event that will "kill" the US on March 20, 2010 will be this quake and not a New Madrid quake.


http://www.cosmicawareness.org/html/hotlines.html#Earthquake

http://cosmic.ipage.com/feb13.mp3


viking

Stardustaquarion
03-05-2010, 05:06 PM
Viking, they are channeling the false memory matrix, On the 21st of March is the cusp of one of the two annual blendings with parallel earth which has already fallen. Parallel earth is on a different particle spin so we don't see it but we feel it

With the activation of the Phi wormhole which is related to the Chile quake and the other bases yeah, I'll say we are for a rough ride this March

Whether it will be a quake or not will depend on whether they continue HAARPing, after all they control these technology

Still we can do our bit to prevent this by controlling our own energies

Love

lightblue
03-05-2010, 05:35 PM
Hey, joking aside this article I found suggests a devastating quake on or around the 20th March which is the start of the Equinox as per message on this thread!!!

quote...
Cosmic Awareness is some sort of channeled entity, something each person must evaluate for him/herself. Personally, it really resonates with me, and this broadcast in particular. It isn't just a prediction of a major quake, but it is coupled with an explanation that makes a great deal of sense to me. But, if you want to know what that explanation is, you'll have to listen to the audio yourself!

For those who want "just the facts, ma'am," the specific prediction is for a massive quake on the West Coast, centered in Northern Calif. / Southern Oregon within one to two months (which would be no later than April 13, 2010). Based on this prediction, I am updating my own prediction made earlier today (http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/b...eline-for-marc...), so that I now believe the event that will "kill" the US on March 20, 2010 will be this quake and not a New Madrid quake.


viking, you know, i trust your own insights a lot more than what you quote here, besides, the latest sananda's is not that far out from many, many similar ones...and repetative by now...

this line i find entertaining:
I AM ESU (JESUS) IMMANUAL SANANDA FROM THE LIGHTED REALMS, ONE WITH CREATION / CREATOR SOURCE. SALU TO MY BROTHER AND SISTER.

who did they mean they got the message from, i'd be intrerested in finding out..according to what's left of the essenes' scriptures, the master we recognize as jesus christ introduced himself to his discples as ESU CHRISTOS (where ESU from arameic - first person singular already means as I AM ).. we know what CHRISTOS means = the annointed..in other words, ESU wasn't his name, it was yeshua, or something similar, depending on who transcribed it..the use if SANANDA is really very funny as it comes from a different tradition altogether - hindu - and means joyous master os soemthing close to that and it is from ANANDA(sanskrit) = joy, elated spirit. what a merger!!!

it just can't be authentic..this is my problem with channelled material in general..i am not dismissing it as impossible, jus think that a visual communication has to be more reliable..an authentic verbal channelled communication would most probably, in my view, be a lot less coherent, it would require some pedantic "translating"..in all seriousness..

best wishes l

p.s. your milk chocolate colour dog is beautiful :winksmiley02:

viking
03-05-2010, 06:16 PM
viking, you know, i trust your own insights a lot more than what you quote here, besides, the latest sananda's is not that far out from many, many similar ones...and repetative by now...

p.s. your milk chocolate colour dog is beautiful :winksmiley02:

woof woof ... :naughty:

viking

Fredkc
03-05-2010, 06:17 PM
Gratuitous cute dog pic follows...

http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/Panda_00s.jpg

lightblue
03-05-2010, 06:29 PM
what a charmer! a very smart colour scheme..he/she is beautiful too!

give it a bisquit, will you fred? now, this very minute, the dog's been a good dog a long while...

bw l




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Mercuriel
03-05-2010, 06:58 PM
it was yeshua, or something similar, depending on who transcribed it..

Apparently - Yeshua Ben-Joseph Al-Mashaiah was the Name. He was 40 years prescursor (approx.) to the Jesus Caesarian the Vatican now promotes as the Christ...

He then supposedly went to the Far East or was forced into Exile if You will. Merovingians ARE from His Bloodline (Yeshua's that is) but have been Infiltrated and thereby utilized for the Genetic "enhancement" shall We say of Their Agenda(s).

Aldobrandinis and others of the Papal Nobility know all about this. IIRC - They were a Family at around the time of Calpurnius Piso - Who sent Jesus Caesarian (Apparently) to Jerusalem as the Agent of the then, much "edited" doctrine this Yeshua had attempted to display, previously.

When You look at the Naming convention of the Day - That Locale - You gotta wonder how a Guy named Jesus Christ was ever even taken seriously when the normal WOULD have been something similar to Yeshua Ben-Joseph Al-Mashaiah. It does fit the Locale - That Timeframe. Seriously - Think of a Guy arriving in Your neck of the woods with such a wacked name You don't even understand how He came about It. And then theres the Message He brings...

Now - One of the True things this Person DID say was - "You will do greater things than I..."

Another was - "No One shall see the Father but through Mine own example" (Yeah They changed it but then that happened alot with things this Guy had said). That was an attempted teaching of the One or All That Is perspective and how Anyone can be with God and usually is if Connected or in Unity w/ First Source.

He didn't mean - Through Worship of Him once He was long gone from the Physical and Translated - We'd all reach God. Nope - He meant - Through His example, or another of similar conviction on the Path within - One could reach Oneness with All That Is - Yod...

The Creative Thoughtform/Interference Pattern - Yod Hey Vahh Hey - the Alep(h(22)). Its easy from there to see why it got turned to God (Yod - God) over time...

He also never intended to ever return in a flaming chariot to save Mankind LOL. It would be a violation of Free-will. Man must choose It's true Destiny without Saviours. It must be It's own Saviour if anything or It'll always be the Old Boss lookin' like the New Boss.

Now again - With that said, If Its anything Its Their Play - 2000 Years old - Actors in place on both Sides/Dualities/Polarities - Final Act...

To start down this Rabbit Hole if You dare - Research Gematria and the Original 22 Letters of the Aramaic/Old Kingdom Hebrew Script for further Understanding...

:winksmiley02:

Stardustaquarion
03-05-2010, 07:05 PM
That is interesting, apparently his name was Jesheua Melchisedeck and has nothing to do with the vatican or the Merovingians

I am writting a sci fy and was researching the Meros and they appear to be related to the Marduk dragon cult that came from Babylon

The Kryst or KRYSTAH LA thing is another story all together

All these revealing where will it take us

Sometimes I just want to go home:plane:

Love
PS it appears that there were three jesus

Mercuriel
03-05-2010, 07:15 PM
Like I said - Apparently but the Truth is in the Gematria and the Script. They are about the only question We really need answer.

What I was attempting to get across (I guess badly) is that I wasn't there as NONE of Us were, so any story is just as about as good as another to be perfectly honest.

Seriously - Google these People I've mentioned for shizz and giggles. Though not that it really matters as I've said above.

Whats really Important is the Message - Not the Messenger - Was the final Point I was trying to make (Again - Badly I guess LOL)...

:wink2:

lightblue
03-05-2010, 07:23 PM
Research Gematria and the Original 22 Letters of the Aramaic/Old Kingdom Hebrew Script for further Illumination...

would need a month of sundays..probably longer..have you done so merculiel?
i think a lot of answers are staring us in the face, we just need our science/research to go apolitical ...won't someone steal vatican library keys? :smoke:
...won't someone anonymously take down the anonymously erected georgia stones?

bw l

Stardustaquarion
03-05-2010, 07:25 PM
Like I said - Apparently but the Truth is in the Gematria and the Script. They are about the only question We really need answer.

What I was attempting to get across (I guess badly) is that I wasn't there as NONE of Us were, so any story is just as about as good as another to be perfectly honest.

Seriously - Google these People I've mentioned for shizz and giggles. Though not that it really matters as I've said above.

Whats really Important is the Message - Not the Messenger - Was the final Point I was trying to make (Again - Badly I guess LOL)...

:wink2:

I know it is really confusing! and sometimes rather hilarious, I used to frequent the channelers sites in the past until I realized that it was almost copy cat stuff that never came to pass

Their only aim seemed to keep us idle and pacified....sound like tptb?

Now they are telling us that we are all going to die and it is for our own good:mad3: well one can say 10/10 for perseverance I guess

Love

lightblue
03-05-2010, 07:31 PM
Their only aim seemed to keep us idle and pacified....sound like tptb?

total rubbish...they may wish....

we shall live to tell the story of what they tried to teach us..if by then we remember it.






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Mercuriel
03-05-2010, 07:34 PM
would need a month of sundays..probably longer..have you done so merculiel ?

Well - Let Me see - I'm still doin' It but from what I've come to know - Its My advice among others more reputable for sure.

That the Path is within is the Path You would need to take - No ? You know that at least...

:thumb_yello:

If that Path IS a Month of Sundays - Is that Path not worth It ?

Simply put - There is only the Water - Will We drink is the key...

:winksmiley02:

lightblue
03-05-2010, 07:39 PM
good principled response

bw l



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Mercuriel
03-05-2010, 07:47 PM
Just so this is also known.

:mf_popeanim:

From - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchizedek_priesthood

The Melchizedek priesthood is the name of several priesthoods. The name Melchizedek has its root in two Hebrew words, "melek" - meaning "King" (Strong's ref:4428) and "tzedek" (see tzadik) - meaning "righteous(ness)" (Strong's ref:6666). Literally then, "The King of Righteousness" or "The Righteous King".

From the day that Moses brought the Torah/the Law down from Mount Sinai it was the tribe of Levi which was commissioned to serve as priests before YHWH (Yod Hey Vahh Hey - My Insert), the God of Israel. This continued on into the era of the Kings of Israel. Melchizedek, King of Salem, a contemporary of Abraham, was not from the tribe of Levi and in fact pre-dated the patriarch Levi by two generations. Both the Torah and the Old Testament affirm that Melchizedek was "priest of God Most High." (Genesis 14:18) King David in the Psalms refers to the future King of kings or Messiah as a "priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek." (Psalm 110:1-4.) Judaism traditionally identifies Melchizedek (lit. "My king is righteous") with Shem.

And / Or from the Urantia Book...

The Melchizedeks are the first order of divine Sons to approach sufficiently near the lower creature life to be able to function directly in the ministry of mortal uplift, to serve the evolutionary races without the necessity of incarnation. These Sons are naturally at the mid-point of the great personality descent, by origin being just about midway between the highest Divinity and the lowest creature life of will endowment. They thus become the natural intermediaries between the higher and divine levels of living existence and the lower, even the material, forms of life on the evolutionary worlds. The seraphic orders, the angels, delight to work with the Melchizedeks; in fact, all forms of intelligent life find in these Sons understanding friends, sympathetic teachers, and wise counselors.

The Melchizedeks are a self-governing order. With this unique group we encounter the first attempt at self-determination on the part of local universe beings and observe the highest type of true self-government. These Sons organize their own machinery for their group and home-planet administration, as well as that for the six associated spheres and their tributary worlds. And it should be recorded that they have never abused their prerogatives; not once throughout all the superuniverse of Orvonton have these Melchizedek Sons ever betrayed their trust. They are the hope of every universe group which aspires to self-government; they are the pattern and the teachers of self-government to all the spheres of Nebadon. All orders of intelligent beings, superiors from above and subordinates from below, are wholehearted in their praise of the government of the Melchizedeks.

:wink2:

RedeZra
03-05-2010, 07:57 PM
When You look at the Naming convention of the Day - That Locale - You gotta wonder how a Guy named Jesus Christ was ever even taken seriously when the normal WOULD have been something similar to Yeshua Ben-Joseph Al-Mashaiah. It does fit the Locale - That Timeframe. Seriously - Think of a Guy arriving in Your neck of the woods with such a wacked name You don't even understand how He came about It. And then theres the Message He brings...



why this confusion


Maryam named her Son Yeshua


the Hebraic word for Salvation

which is only fitting

since her mother tounge was Hebrew

lightblue
03-05-2010, 08:05 PM
nd / Or from the Urantia Book...

Quote:
The Melchizedeks are the first order of divine Sons to approach sufficiently near the lower creature life to be able to function directly in the ministry of mortal uplift, to serve the evolutionary races without the necessity of incarnation. These Sons are naturally at the mid-point of the great personality descent, by origin being just about midway between the highest Divinity and the lowest creature life of will endowment. They thus become the natural intermediaries between the higher and divine levels of living existence and the lower, even the material, forms of life on the evolutionary worlds. The seraphic orders, the angels, delight to work with the Melchizedeks; in fact, all forms of intelligent life find in these Sons understanding friends, sympathetic teachers, and wise counselors.

The Melchizedeks are a self-governing order. With this unique group we encounter the first attempt at self-determination on the part of local universe beings and observe the highest type of true self-government. These Sons organize their own machinery for their group and home-planet administration, as well as that for the six associated spheres and their tributary worlds. And it should be recorded that they have never abused their prerogatives; not once throughout all the superuniverse of Orvonton have these Melchizedek Sons ever betrayed their trust. They are the hope of every universe group which aspires to self-government; they are the pattern and the teachers of self-government to all the spheres of Nebadon. All orders of intelligent beings, superiors from above and subordinates from below, are wholehearted in their praise of the government of the Melchizedeks.


so where are the melchizadecks as we speak?

how do you translate nebadon? i take it it must mean heaven. thanks l





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Mercuriel
03-05-2010, 08:07 PM
Uhhhmmm - Like I said - Its the Message - Not the Messenger. There has already been enough Confusion already. Time to stop it or at least get to the bottom of where the Confusion started It seems - No ?

His Name could have been Pete for all that matters - The Message was sound no matter what His Name was.

Now if My Name was Yeshua or whatever - I mean It Literally was - I'd probably Answer better when called upon if People got My Name right at least. Sorry - That resonates and It has nothing to do with Blind Faith - Just Logic...

Hey wait a Minute...

:shocked:

Mercuriel
03-05-2010, 08:14 PM
so where are the melchizadecks as we speak?

how do you translate nebadon? i take it it must mean heaven. thanks l[/SIZE][/COLOR]

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My Inference by that Post was that the Term Melchizedek to Me (And others apparently - LOL) is more an Ancient Name for either an Order of Life - Or a Teacher Influence or Construct within a Heirarchy. People with Names utilizing It are or were likely thought of as Teachers by Their People...

Hence the two Contrasts Portrayed. My Path so to speak down the Rabbit Hole and We've only just begun...

:trumpet:

RedeZra
03-05-2010, 08:20 PM
Now if My Name was Yeshua or whatever - I mean It Literally was - I'd probably Answer better when called upon if People got My Name right at least. Sorry - That resonates and It has nothing to do with Blind Faith - Just Logic...



logic lol

as a father

will you wait to come to the call of your child

til he gets your pronunciation right

lightblue
03-05-2010, 08:23 PM
Hence the two Contrasts Portrayed. My Path so to speak down the Rabbit Hole and We've only just begun...



i don't understand the 'contrasts portrayed'..

we started off by establishing a possible authenticity of various channelled materials..the latest sananda's in this instance...

sorry..

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 08:28 PM
My Inference by that Post was that the Term Melchizedek to Me (And others apparently - LOL) is more an Ancient Name for either an Order of Life - Or a Teacher Influence or Construct within a Heirarchy. People with Names utilizing It are or were likely thought of as Teachers by Their People...

Hence the two Contrasts Portrayed. My Path so to speak down the Rabbit Hole and We've only just begun...

:trumpet:

I'm curious if you have studied any teachings of the Essene.

Abraham's Lake is in Iran, and from what I have read the center of the holy lands were chosen to be closer to the civilization of the Essene, which was where Jesus lived from early teens to late 20s...

any relations to Melchizedek?

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 08:43 PM
The reason I ask is if this person can channel to intelligent beings that has been around watching us for the last few thousand years they will know the correct answer.

as for mother earth...

what's her address I'd like invite her by for coffee... :lol3:

viking
03-05-2010, 08:59 PM
I wonder what our good old George Green would make of this channeling...

I believe he worked with the Bellringers/Phoenix Journels for quite a while before going it alone...his channelings are from the same source...perhaps he could shed some light!!!

It would be interesting for his take on it!!

Just a thought!! *shrugs*

viking

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 09:00 PM
The cult's cosmology is structurally similar to medieval Catholicism in that it is based on a physical structure of the universe which is interwoven with its spiritual structure. Our solar system exists on a plane in space (The Untold History of America, page 122) along with seven stars that form The Pleiades. Perpendicular to the plane of orbit of our solar system is the Photon Belt, a ring through which we pass twice during each orbit of the system's central sun, Alcyone, the Great Central Sun.

Since it takes 24,000 years for our solar system to orbit Alcyone, we pass through the Photon Belt every 12,000 years, which corresponds to the great cycles of civilization. It takes 2000 years to pass through the Photon Belt. We entered its fringe in 1962 and should reach full impact in 2011. The full effect of the Photon Belt will be to trigger an energy transformation whereby earthly beings rise to a higher spiritual level. This involves a transition from three-dimensional to four-dimensional space and a spiritual lighting up of one's being.

The Ancient Calendars ended on August 17, 1987, the date of the Harmonic Convergence, at which time the Seventh Seal was opened. We are therefore already fourteen years into the new millennium. The Seventh Seal also appeared in the doctrine of the Branch Davidians. All of these elements are related to our passing into the Photon Belt.

God in the cult system is named Aton, who is the Creator and is equivalent to the Lakota Wakan Tanka. There are two Primary Rays of Creation emanating from Aton. These are the Golden Ray, which is Esu Jesus Immanuel Sananda, who is equivalent to the Lakota Great White Spirit; and the Silver Ray, Sanat Kumara, who is equivalent to the Lakota Grandfather.

Esu Sananda is "Commander-in-Chief of this particular planetary reclamation and transition mission, especially concerning the "harvesting" of the "Lighted souls" (Wisdom of the Rays, page 29). The basic idea is that Jesus in new form is coming to earth in a spaceship to pick up Lighted souls. These are cult members who have studied the doctrine and prepared for the transition.

Advanced knowledge of Esu Sananda's mission is being transmitted to earth by radio signals by Commander Hatonn, whose transmissions are received by Doris Ekker in Tehachapi. Commander Hatonn is in charge of Esu Sananda's spaceship, which will transport cult members to the Pleiades, or fourth dimension during Lift-off One, which was scheduled to occur before the end of the year 2000. Commander Hatonn is the "experiencing fragment of ATON."

link... (http://heartdaughter.com/overcomers/index.php?topic=1091.0;wap2)

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 09:07 PM
I wonder what our good old George Green would make of this channeling...

I believe he worked with the Bellringers/Phoenix Journels for quite a while before going it alone...his channelings are from the same source...perhaps he could shed some light!!!

It would be interesting for his take on it!!

Just a thought!! *shrugs*

viking

A newsletter entitled CONTACT. The Phoenix Educator is available from P.O. Box 27800, Las Vegas, NV 89126, 1-800-800-5565. It is edited by Dr. Edwin M. Young, who apparently previously worked at MIT and had clearance for some kind of work in silicon valley. Another set of publications called The Phoenix Journals is also available.

The post before was explaining this publication

viking
03-05-2010, 09:12 PM
Hey Rocky I hear you...See you aboard ... :naughty:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10515&page=6

viking

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 09:17 PM
wouldn't you know you got all of that from Rocky... :lol3:


and even better the last post on the thread was 11:11

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 09:31 PM
Tehachapi is right next to Edwards air force base...


Things that make you go hmmmm

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 09:37 PM
UFO Case Book (http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures.html)

http://www.ufocasebook.com/edwardsafb1957small.jpg

http://www.ufocasebook.com/edwardsafb1957.jpg

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 09:41 PM
they must have dropped by back in 1957 to give Doris Ekker a radio receiver.

viking
03-05-2010, 09:42 PM
Yes so many Mmmmm's

Not sure about the 'Cult' tag tho!!!

viking

Rocky_Shorz
03-05-2010, 09:44 PM
it's in quotes so I plead the fifth...

all this time we've been searching for UFOs and here Doris had the bat phone...

viking
03-05-2010, 10:00 PM
Yep....

She won't be using the bat phone anymore...she died under strange curcumstances...

Maybe thats why George took over the contact with, so to speak...?!

Too many messengers from one source...it get too confusing!!

Hey ho we shall discern...

viking

Mercuriel
03-06-2010, 09:20 AM
logic lol

as a father

will you wait to come to the call of your child

til he gets your pronunciation right

Hmmm, as somone seems to like to go into Doctrine Mode right away with each Reply - I'll start with Doctrine. Now while I know the Opposite OR if needed - Supporting Scriptures could be posted in Reply to what I AM about to Post - What does that tell You about Dogma/Doctrine. At least the Ones We've been sold as a Race for a long long time. So here We go...

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

- Hosea 6:6

"Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood."

- Hosea 4:1,2

So in reply with that having been stated for the People - No - In the beginning that would be fine but as He/She/It grew I would expect that He/She/It would come to know My Name because His/Her/It's Brothers and Sisters would Serve Others in helping Him/Her/It to know Me - Literally and Fully. In this I would never stop trying to impart THAT knowledge if anything.

Are We not of sufficient Age to now finally know the real Truth rather than the Allegory. Ei Yei Yei - I will not debate this with You as You seem to be either One OF Blind Faith, or One pushing that Agenda, and I will not be drawn into that old Ploy.

Please be careful of the Polarity You've projected on Myself and the Message I and others in Unity with the Father/Mother/Alpha/Omega - Alep(h(22)) are brining to the People. I worry for You in this. One only affects Themselves ultimately when They Obfuscate with Sophistry, but then I suspect You know this already. If not - Now You do. I know - The Message I and many others are now displaying for the People is dangerous to the Control Structure of Religion(s) around the World. So far - I have brought the People Facts and Names that They can check out Themselves that will lead them to more Truth than the Story that has been stolen and then sold as Allegory to the Masses for at least the past two thousand Years. Truly - What else has been offered ?

Other than what I and some others in this Thread have contributed - Blind Faith is all I see. "Don't listen to that - Just move along - All is well - The Flaming Chariot arrives @ 5:55 BTW..."

To be sure - The Christed/Cristos have never left. They have been here Day after Day in one Avatar or the Other - Month after Month - Year after Long Year nurturing Mankind to this Moment. The Father loves His Children Indeed...

As at one time - The People will know Their Origins in the Heart of the Prime Creator. This cannot be stopped and the People truly will come come to know Their Father once again...

Seeing as how Logic seems to be a Problem (LOL) let Me throw this out there as as last parting Message to You and others in this Thread. I AM done with this particular discussion after this Reply as It was never My intention to hijack this Thread (My apologies). That stated, I will withdraw after this and let the Logic of what I've posted for Them - Stand on It's own.

Lets get this straight at least. The Prime Creator (God - Yod) owns the House (Creation) - Period. All other is Co-ordinate Representation - Period. Now - Why is it that with Dogma (AMGOD BTW) - It is professed/taught that the Son - Living in the Basement - Is the One that owns the House and only through Him can the little Brother and or Sister talk to Dad ?

:wall:

I'm curious if you have studied any teachings of the Essene.

Essenes, Gnostics, Zealots, Hyksos Kings, Etc. It's a very Deep Hole We're talking about here (LOL)...

With that said - I hereby withdraw from the Religiosity of this Thread and I leave "others" to Hammer Doctrine and Dogma at You in Peace. If anyone has any further questions - I can be PM'ed and will assist accordingly.

:punk:

Stardustaquarion
03-06-2010, 11:13 AM
[QUOTE=Mercuriel;249404]Just so this is also known.

Hi Mercuriel

Ref: Melchizedecks, since I start it I thought I better clarify

There are two types of Melchizedecks

a) Templar or Alpha-Omega Melchizedecks, who are the ones that original defected from the Law of One teachings and stepped out of aligment with Source by their own volition. This are the ones that promote the Death Star merkabah teachings that have the purpose of harnessing the energy of living beings. I have not read the Urantia book by it may be related. To this day no one has claimed ownership of the Urantia book so its origins are not know, it could have been written by anyone

b) Melchizedeck Cloister Emeral Order, from which Jesheua Melchizedeck come from and who are the holders of the Cloister Dora Teura Plates (made of selenite) which are in Inner Earth under the supervision and custody of the Priests of UR
Because this time matrix is now falling, and we are in a 200 years evacuation cycle, the MCEO has been upgraded to Adashi MCEO. They hold the teachings of the science of creation, ascension and merkaba that acretes energy naturaly without violating creation or other beings. They do not channel, publicise, recruit etc. It is up to the people to find them when they are ready

Love

yiolas
03-06-2010, 11:18 AM
Hey, joking aside this article I found suggests a devastating quake on or around the 20th March which is the start of the Equinox as per message on this thread!!! :zip:

iking

I've just begun listenting to Jeff Grupp of the Antimatter Radio show.
He's got some great information about just about everything we talk about here at Avalon. He reminds me a little of Freeman but a little more science based.

Well on March 1st he had as a guest Scott Stevens (weather wars).

Scott expressed a calculated prediction that there would be a very large earthquake either in Greece or Spain around the time of the Spring Equinox give or take a few days. It was a very interesting show.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/antimatterradio/2010/03/01/the-antimatter-radio-show-3-1-10-scott-stevens-all-weather-is-controlled-illuminati-earthquakes

http://antimatterradio.com/

viking
03-06-2010, 11:22 AM
I've just begun listenting to Jeff Grupp of the Antimatter Radio show.
He's got some great information about just about everything we talk about here at Avalon. He reminds me a little of Freeman but a little more science based.

Well on March 1st he had as a guest Scott Stevens (weather wars).

Scott expressed a calculated prediction that there would be a very large earthquake either in Greece or Spain around the time of the Spring Equinox give or take a few days. It was a very interesting show.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/antimatterradio/2010/03/01/the-antimatter-radio-show-3-1-10-scott-stevens-all-weather-is-controlled-illuminati-earthquakes

http://antimatterradio.com/

Hey Thanks Yiolas... Yes I heard about the Spain one, but not the Greece one... I'll have a butchers!!

You left the vi out of viking by the way... ha ha ... 'I King' sounds ok though!!! :naughty:

viking

Stardustaquarion
03-06-2010, 11:45 AM
I've just begun listenting to Jeff Grupp of the Antimatter Radio show.
He's got some great information about just about everything we talk about here at Avalon. He reminds me a little of Freeman but a little more science based.

Well on March 1st he had as a guest Scott Stevens (weather wars).

Scott expressed a calculated prediction that there would be a very large earthquake either in Greece or Spain around the time of the Spring Equinox give or take a few days. It was a very interesting show.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/antimatterradio/2010/03/01/the-antimatter-radio-show-3-1-10-scott-stevens-all-weather-is-controlled-illuminati-earthquakes


http://antimatterradio.com/

I can not give details but I think, if anything may happen it may be from the 14 to the 21 give or take few days

There are a couple of cosmic events (not astrology) that are going to happen on those days which can generate significant amounts of energy and affect the morphogenetic field of the planet

I agree that everything is being controlled but we have more power than all the machines out there, the power of Spirit and we can make a difference

Thank you for the link
Love

viking
03-06-2010, 12:03 PM
I agree that everything is being controlled but we have more power than all the machines out there, the power of Spirit and we can make a difference

Thank you for the link
Love

I totally agree with you Stardust and I can assure you and others that my thoughts are filled with love/joy/happiness/.... ect etc

However my concern is that we are not enough to counteract some of these events!!! We need 80-90 % STO ... at the moment we are at a measerly 25% ish ... How many of us are here waking up?...how many of them are out there asleep?

I am afraid the mass populations thought patterns are controlled by you know who, and live in a continual cycle of what is being presented to them daily...

My balance shall remain as is...

viking

Steven
03-06-2010, 01:01 PM
Interesting that we are talking about Jesus and none mentionned:

Yeshu ben Pantera

That is in my opinion, his real name and history.

A healer from the panthera lineage.

More here:

http://www.jesusdynasty.com/blog/2006/07/13/the-jesus-son-of-panthera-traditions/

Namaste, Steven

Stardustaquarion
03-06-2010, 01:15 PM
However my concern is that we are not enough to counteract some of these events!!! We need 80-90 % STO ... at the moment we are at a measerly 25% ish ... How many of us are here waking up?...how many of them are out there asleep?

I am afraid the mass populations thought patterns are controlled by you know who, and live in a continual cycle of what is being presented to then daily...

My balance shall remain as is...

viking

Dear Viking

Asha said once than one awakened human can have the power of millions. What I have seen in the last years confirm that somehow. However I agree that we are greately outnumbered here and it is clear that the majority are happy to have catastrophic changes which is the brain programing that is comming from many places

Lets continue raising our vibration to assist the planet and other life forms which also count in this equation

To be powerless is a choice, lets chose to be empowered holding engaged detachment and being calm in the face of chaos:thumb_yello:

Love

RedeZra
03-06-2010, 08:33 PM
I will not debate this with You as You seem to be either One OF Blind Faith, or One pushing that Agenda, and I will not be drawn into that old Ploy.

Please be careful of the Polarity You've projected on Myself and the Message I and others in Unity with the Father/Mother/Alpha/Omega - Alep(h(22)) are brining to the People. I worry for You in this. One only affects Themselves ultimately when They Obfuscate with Sophistry, but then I suspect You know this already. If not - Now You do.


Maryam named her Son Yeshua

a common Hebrew name among the Hebraic people


Yeshua was transliterated to Iesous in Greek and to Iesus in Latin

and finally to Jesus in English


so there is no need for confusions about the etymology of Jesus' name



I shall not say much about the assumptions about me

neither shall I pr!ck a hole in the bubble of self-importance

Im just not that kinda guy

:mfr_lol:

viking
03-10-2010, 05:53 PM
Reply to the message ... thought I'd share...

Dear PB

Greetings to you and many blessings to you and your family for your dedication, efforts and faith in bringing about Truth for all to see on Fourwinds. Several days ago, a message from Esu Immanuel Sananda was posted on Fourwinds about the lessons of 3D being over and a soon arriving evacuation from Earth Shan. My heart shook as I read this news. I have been seeking the Truth for many years now and trying to live according to the Laws Of Creation. I know I haven't done my best at times... life has become extremely difficult here. For the past year, I have been praying daily for this madness to end for our Creator to come bring us home. Even though at times I doubt I am worthy of graduation to 5D... nonetheless, I know the Truth and am eager to go home. Is this time stated in the message for real? Are we really going home on the equinox or is this just an estimate? For years I have been watching announcement after announcement saying NESARA was going to happen by this date and it never happened. I realize there is freewill involved in NESARA and the Universe, so perhaps this isn't the best example. All I am asking is... is it true, really, in 2 weeks? Forgive me if I sound unfaithful and untrustworthy. I am just so very tired. My wife and I's health is poor both mentally and physically, we are struggling like many others to get by and I just want to go home. I ask daily for peace and comfort from our Creator and surround ourselves daily with his protective Light. Thank you for your time and consideration, Patrick. You have been such a great strength and hope to me for many years now.

-DE

(Response)


Dear DE:

Thank you for your kind words for our work at Fourwinds. We honor you and your good wife for your enlightenment and your faithfulness to your mission.

Yes, I agree, it is time to go home, to return to our homes in the Stars. We are tired, and many of "Sananda's Flock" are exhausted. You ask, "Are we really going home on the (Spring) Equinox?" Because no one in our 3D world is allowed to know the future in great detail, we and many others are asking the same question. "Is the time stated in the message for real?" Is it possible that evacuation of our planet is that close? I truly do not know.

We know that freewill choices and actions have always dominated and guided the course of history on Shan, and at times drastically changed the outcome that was anticipated. We are told by Hatonn in the Phoenix Journals that Mother Earth is a sentient being and has a freewill like you and me. Hatonn says Mother Earth has the last word about when she chooses to tip on her axis and begin major cleansing in preparation for her transition into 5D.

In Sananda's message of March 3, 2010 He is saying an agreement was reached to move the schedule ahead by six months for these events to occur. So, we ask, "Is this for real?" At this time, who can know with certainty? Two thousand years ago Sananda said that "no man can know the day nor the hour of his coming to gather his flock home."

The question is "Can we know the month? Is it this month?" I do not know. It is not for us to know exact timing, for if we did, many would stop their work and sit and wait, while others would panic out of fear or be stressed because they throught they were not ready.

We are told over and over to use discernment, to read the messages and the signs of the times in which we are living, and to act in wisdom, and to be ready. I believe that inspite of any agreement with Sananda, Mother Earth still chooses the exact timing of her transition. I also believe that Sananda is telling us that Heaven's Plan is for major change to happen soon, and as soon as our Spring Equinox is possible, and to be ready.

Be in peace, my friend, and in anticipation of your rewards for a job well done. These are joyous times for Mother Earth and all of "Sananda's Flock". Know it!

In Love and Light, PB

viking

Mercuriel
03-10-2010, 06:14 PM
Hmmm - It seems there is a fixation with Me rather than the Message. Rather than rehash the Issue I've raised relative to My Judgement or perceived Judgement of another - With what I know - We do that to Ourselves. No need for Me to do It, but the Message I have - Will be known. I stand in Unity asking for the full Truth - No Illusions or Allegory needed.

I say this in much the same way that We would say Osama which means "Lion-Like" or Cameron which means "Bent Nose". We don't call those with that Name(s) - "Lion Like Bin Laden" or "Bent-nose". We call Them Osama or Cameron because those are Their names. That it can be symbolic of something else is not disputed - But that We call People by Their given Names is the Norm and always has been.

At any rate - I let the Logic of the above speak for Itself. Without Judgement...

I have always seen Yeshua as a Brother and will continue to do so. That said - You are all My Brothers and Sisters...

Moxie
03-11-2010, 05:57 AM
"Now if My Name was Yeshua or whatever - I mean It Literally was - I'd probably Answer better when called upon if People got My Name right at least. Sorry - That resonates and It has nothing to do with Blind Faith - Just Logic..."


"Yeshua was transliterated to Iesous in Greek and to Iesus in Latin
and finally to Jesus in English"

Aaaahhhhhhh... but Yeshua does not even resemble Jesus, wow, it even sounds different (That is Logic) >>> Geee Zus... Yeh shua, get it?

Hello my name is Bill... oh, hi Jack!

This might be helpful also: Any other person named Jesus is pronounced Hay-soos because there is only ONE Geezus! LOLOL

I couldn't help myself. I needed a good chuckle, hope you had one too.
Laughing should be as easy as Logic... but hey! Y sounds like a J...

TraineeHuman
03-11-2010, 07:06 AM
Interesting that we are talking about Jesus and none mentionned:

Yeshu ben Pantera

That is in my opinion, his real name and history.

A healer from the panthera lineage. ...


I agree that my research suggest this was certainly his correct name. (Christ or Messiah was the title given by all the Jews at that time to any leader of a Jewish sect. Thus the early Church Fathers refer to the person we know as John the Baptist as "John Christ". It wasn't until the fifth century that Tertullian initiated the practice of calling only one individual "Christ".)

Does anybody also happen to be aware that the Emperor Tiberius was normally known as "Tiberius Pantera"? The link you provide in your post describes how Pantera's tomb describes him as an archer. However, it is also well known that before he died the Emperor Tiberius (who was, then, apparently Yeshua's father) insisted that his tomb should bear that humble inscription.

And there wasn't such a thing as a "panthera lienage"! In Latin, panthera means "the promiscuous", which that Emperor certainly was. The Romans often used a person's nickname as their surname. On the other hand, it seems unlikely how Jeshua could have acquired such expert practical knowledge regarding advanced healing techniques had he not studied at the mystery schools in Alexandria during his childhood, and Alexandria happened to be where Tiberius (and before him, Augustus) had his summer palace, which is also where he would have based his children.