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SteveX
03-07-2010, 02:07 AM
Well worth watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMdw24f0XmA&feature=digest

Any comments on it ?

xbusymom
03-07-2010, 05:23 AM
he mentions "statism" several times... i am not sure I understand what that is?

does he mean the state of being (livestock mindset)?
or a governing form (statism vs capitalism)?

however, when you take the whole video as a single context point of view, it does explain how easy it is to direct the thought-patterns of the masses... and the last few seconds is a shocker, but leaves the viewer hanging in a kind of lost confusion...... (i.e. ok-so we need to wake up- but how do we do that)...

Gnosis5
03-07-2010, 06:26 AM
The freedom to keep modelling to the last ounce of absurdity someone's really dumb idea...."I wonder what would happen if...."

Fredkc
03-07-2010, 07:34 AM
he mentions "statism" several times... i am not sure I understand what that is?Statism is the notion that man needs government to "hold back the chaos", so to speak. The notion that things like rights flow from the government. Or that government has a proper, and legitimate existence, and can exercise authority in its own right.

How's that?

Fred

SteveX
03-07-2010, 06:28 PM
he mentions "statism" several times... i am not sure I understand what that is?

does he mean the state of being (livestock mindset)?
or a governing form (statism vs capitalism)?

however, when you take the whole video as a single context point of view, it does explain how easy it is to direct the thought-patterns of the masses... and the last few seconds is a shocker, but leaves the viewer hanging in a kind of lost confusion...... (i.e. ok-so we need to wake up- but how do we do that)...


Statism as clipped from Wiki
sovereignty is vested not in the people but in the national state, and that all individuals and associations exist only to enhance the power, the prestige, and the well-being of the state. The fascist concept of statism, which as seen as synonymous with the concept of nation, and corporatism repudiates individualism and exalts the nation as an organic body headed by the Supreme Leader and nurtured by unity, force, and discipline."[3]

I would just pass the link on to who ever you know. Eventually someone with the know how will take this further.

Although we have government it doesn't really serve us the people. It's as though the state is a living thing and rules those in positions of power to rule us.... Time to change that. We need the Government to report to the people.

xbusymom
03-07-2010, 07:16 PM
ok thanks, i understand now...

mudra
03-07-2010, 11:36 PM
Thanks Steve X .
Self sustained communities or individuals are showing the way to exit Statism.
Our true prison is our belief systems . Once we work on ourselves and break free
from those we can come out with new ways to dream the world.

Love Always
mudra

SteveX
03-13-2010, 04:06 AM
Thanks Steve X .
Self sustained communities or individuals are showing the way to exit Statism.
Our true prison is our belief systems . Once we work on ourselves and break free
from those we can come out with new ways to dream the world.

Love Always
mudra

EXACTLY. Isn't that what Avalon is about? Isn't that what Bill is about?