Fixing what is broken, healing the damage, learning and moving on. Long live AVALON

[Anchor]

If you are concerned about this forum and the discord that is blowing through it, please read all of this post and allow me to put some ideas to you all. I promise you this is the best I can do right now. I am sure some of you wont agree with all of it. I hope the intent and love shines through all that.

I am under pressure to accept an administrator role again, but it is clear to me that the way people relate to my posts as a moderator is entirely different to the way in which they relate to my posts as a member and I much prefer the latter.

I am quite sad to see the irresponsible/inappropriate/misguided use of energy still on this forum. I think we are not learning as fast as we should. However, I remain extremely optimistic that this situation will be resolved for the highest and best good of all and in a satisfactory way.

What we need is to stop feeding the thoughtform’s that got us in this mess to start with.

The recent weeks have seen a wide range of potent catalyst brought to bear on this forum and change has resulted. We have to deal with and process that change. There is no going back.

Recently in some posts, I have seen reference to "In the Mists" as a ban. I can tell you, without even needing to get a moderator to explain it, that it is not a ban. It is a moderator device (changing the security group) that has the effect of removing someone’s posting privileges – it can be temporary and very often is. Evidently a moderator or admin felt that Myplanet2 (or whoever) needed to STFU for a bit :)

On MP2 - I have known MyPlanet2 from this forum and from his past contributions as a researcher. I have watched him go through some profound changes, culminating in the recent focused effort he made to try to get a message over to you guys. His message was largely understood by a surprisingly wide spectrum of members. He is light. Please do not "demonize" him just because he pushed it too far one day.

On Astral attacks.

Yes you read it right. Mr. I don't talk about Astral stuff Anchor is breaking ranks! It is time and because of what we have done I think it is important to have a mature discussion about it. You must test this information before accepting it.

As has been noted by many, there has been a high level of what looks like psychic activity associated with this forum. My personal belief is that this is TRUE.

It was catalyzed by the extreme reactionary positions taken by some members to the Thuban material – bordering on hysteria both expressed and not expressed. This has led some to suffer some symptoms and astral attack. The modes are: Fear and Stress, Astral disturbance, attack or worse, or a combination the former preceding the latter.

Furthermore I do not think abraxasinas/Thuban material was directly to blame. Even if you did, he is gone now. I forgive him - please join me. I think we all are capable of this.

I think that the root cause of the psychic activity (astral energies attack) was via the following vector:

1) Improper discrimination and prejudice when reading, in particular the Thuban material. I have seen similar behavior with some of the fear mongering threads we have on here. It is believed that this is a common PTB attack mode, but this time I don’t think it was PTB I think it was an simply a bad accident waiting to happen.

Anyway this led to:

2) Interpretation that was more based on the "Dragon" /Alpha Draconis/ racial memory, frightening voodoo imagery of “eating people” “invasion” and other such with the ever-present hooks into many people's assumptions, learning, information and stance on the Reptilian, PTB or otherwise agenda etc – repeated and summed in a word: fear.

Fueled by:

3) Fear or suspicion that the website was being attacked and those in it. Unfortunately some of the time this was actually physically true. The site came under real attack fueled by some real hack attacks we suffered from China – where the forum was up and down like a whores knickers for a few days – the re-emergence of some past troublemakers that we repelled – and the Kerry's and Bill's contra-positions and fallout there from, and topped off with some rather rushed thinking and unclear communication (in private) leading to me closing the Thuban thread and the consequential re-opening of the thread and old wounds.

And to really make it worse:

4) Along come the ego's - these were the in private whisperings and rumors, the in public displays and grandstanding by self styled expert demonologists, semi-coherent ramblings from the “other side”, exorcists, egyptologists and symbologists who were all ready to pile in and say "I told you so" “burn the evil” "its a fight to the death!!" "Wont someone please think of the children!!" and in so doing - with these brands of polarity and mode of expression probably scared the bejeezus even more out of many somewhat innocent and less prepared people.

I hope we all learn. On top of that – contrary to the good advice of many people myself included – Abraxasinas kicked off on the sexual topics – talk about explosive!

As stated I played my own part and made my own errors especially that of trying to control the Thuban thread so that it was restricted to Q&A, I have beaten myself up enough about that but it did happen and it caused more angst than was already extant. I cannot change the past. Had I not done what I did, perhaps the thread would have descended into its own self defeating chaos more quickly - a bit like this one might.

So now we have made a monster !

At this point the fear, chaos and attention, again in my view and according to my perception DID open doorways better left shut (via the laws of attraction) and DID allow low level astral attacks against people who were in fear and undefended.

In some cases these were alleged to be more severe; especially in the case where some forum members were taking the fight to each other! I see this as vast power misused and backfiring - luckily not directly affecting the forum and only those within the scope of their conflicts.

We have seen the classic fight or flight response result. Now you know that there are many very tough fighters on Avalon (as there should be at this time, nothing wrong with that) - and a few people took flight.

So the fire burns hotter and hotter.

Bifurcated, split, closed, opened, closed and replicated, round and round in a chaotic spiral - the – "thuban threads" – incoherent "emotion" threads – threads and thoughtforms sprouted and fired with that energy into the almost tangible beings created; only to see these temporal monsters take on the energy of those in the loop. They do exist. They still exist. They need to be dissipated with love and compassion. Remove your energy and attention - bless them - forgive them - appreciate them for the experience and opportunities they presented us.

We are all, both the good guys and the bad guys, and the saints and the sinners; we are ALL jointly and separately responsible for this mess.

However instead of removing our attention and allowing things to dissipate, for some reason, we just couldn't let it go (so far anyway). Why?

Removal of threads from view without moderator consensus has been an unmitigated PR disaster. It was done. It has passed. Personally I forgive all those connected with that action. We ALL know (or should know) that this was done out of love and for the best protection of all – but now the energy has deflected into INDIGNATION – how dare one or a tiny few person/people do this to us?

Obviously with the benefit of hindsight this could have been done a different way.

I'll come out and tell you right now that I am not in my comfort zone here.

I don’t want to be a moderator anymore. I don’t think a moderator, administrator or co-founder can solve this problem, certainly not acting alone. I want this problem solved in a way that people don’t keep trying to make me come back as one :) I want US to do it.

I am begging you all! Please relax on whipping up the storm – allow it to pass. The moderators will fix things. The errors of judgment should be forgiven. We must do this to make this right and heal the damage. We can if we do this right all emerge stronger and wiser.

If we don’t do this simple thing – the forum will not stand.

If we don’t do this simple thing – we will learn less than we should learn!

We must unite.

We must internalize the new wisdom that the perceptive here will reap and share.

Don't be frightened to speak up.

Grasp your swords of truth.

Speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - speak it simply, plainly and with clarity. Distortions such as we have seen, cannot stand against the truth.

In conclusion:

This is not any demon, this is not any dragon, this is not any administrator or moderator, it is not any spiritual force for good or bad; IT IS US, we made this happen either by commission or omission and WE MUST LET IT END AND LET IT HEAL. .

I know that there are bound to be some inaccuracies in the presentation of my thinking above. I am very freaking far from perfect. I love you. I want to help. This is the best I could do right now. Please don't take those inaccuracies as you will see them and turn this into a bone crunching debate about my portrayal of the metaphysics involved. I know I am not a master of this illusion. Please focus on the restoration of harmony.

In the Love and in the Light of the one Infinite Creator, please bless, guide and protect this forum and all of its members without exception.

AJ..

[ellie]

Thank you Anchor,

I really want that beautiful avatar back posting with the lovely spiritual turtle in that beautiful water..............please futureeyes you are beautiful and I really would love you to be here, cuddles for you,

And the other lady who PM biggs on the other forum please stay here and contribute please.

I dont want any wonderful beautiful spiritual loving souls who have made this forum so beautiful since the beginning to not be here, it hurts a lot.

I will just lurk instead I promise if you all come back.:tears::wub2:

[rhythm]

Thank you Anchor,

I really want that beautiful avatar back posting with the lovely spiritual turtle in that beautiful water..............please futureeyes you are beautiful and I really would love you to be here, cuddles for you,

And the other lady who PM biggs on the other forum please stay here and contribute please.

I dont want any wonderful beautiful spiritual loving souls who have made this forum so beautiful since the beginning to not be here, it hurts a lot.

I will just lurk instead I promise if you all come back.:tears::wub2:

Very moved by your word Anchor and elli... all things will and must change ..
always try to see what in it for you ... where can you make a difference
maby while staying with it ... and bring back the balance .. no winners no losers... its not PERSONAL :wub2:love allways to all rhythmmm :wub2:

[Stardustaquarion]

Dear Anchor

Thank you for taking the trouble and effort to right such a thoughtfull post. I agree with you mostly and I would like to add:

From confidential sources and with the help of those that care for humanity there is a concerted effort in this moment to change timelines. That needs the cooperation of all of us, PC warriors (in the sence of peace keepers :)) to keep our light quotient high

My personal take is that some of what happened may have been related with effort from those that do not have the best interest of humans at heart, and the efforts will continue through out this year. Those efforts are at many levels not only the physical plane

When time lines are in the process of changing there is conflict because the ones that have chosen to move forward are sheding thoughtforms that need to be released and the ones that are against change are holding on tightly. When there are changes in timelines in few years rather than many hundreds of thousands of years, the conflict is exacerbated.:nono::nono::nono:

We have now in our hands the possibility to make wise choices for the sake of the forum and our future in this planet. May your choices be wise and well informed

One of the things I have learned is that reality as it is manifested is "perfect" (not ideal) as a result of our collective efforts. It has manifested exactly as it was our capacity to manifest. It is easier to accept and honor what has been created, even if it is not ideal, forgive ourselves if the creation does not please and move on.

We can not change the present but we can chose to create the Ideal future that we desire, but to do that we have to let go of the conflict that is created when we feel the present is not "ideal"

Love to all avalonians, we are in this together no matter what we believe:wub2::wub2::wub2:

[justpeter]

I think it's always a good idea to take a step back and realise this is all a game we've agreed to play and we're all learning something from it. I know at times it's difficult not to get sucked-in but if we are, then maybe there's some lesson there we are meant to learn.

Personally, I took one look at the first post in the Thuban thread and didn't get through the first paragraph before leaving it and never going back but for anyone involved with that thread then I sincerely hope they learned something positive.

Generally speaking I am very happy to have joined this forum a few weeks ago and I think I'm in the right place at the right time:thumb_yello:

[Aztar]

7criyE09uy0

[Stargazer1965]

Thanks Anchor John....I like you better as a member!!

You have it right....

IMHO....

I was shocked that folks flocked to something I could not understand

I was shocked that folks got banned without getting a fair shake

I was shocked that folks were playing "Whose the more enlightened being"

I was shocked that folks were named as "compromised"

I was shocked that Kerry pulled a "knife" on Bill then pulled a "knife" on T3J
(I'm over simplifying Kerry...I do that a lot)

Then something hit me

I'm not them.....and they only affect my reality if I let them

I shocked myself

I let it get to me and I panicked...when I should have been bailing

Peace Y'all

[sunny D]

Well said Anchor:thumb_yello:

0xCWpooAjHw

[THE eXchanger]

very well said, thank you anchor :)

[JesterTerrestrial]

ANCHOR!!! YOU EVEN GOT THE EXCHANGER TO COME BACK AND POST!!!

AVALON!!! I TOLD YOU!!! THERE'S NO STOPPING NOW!!! THANK YOU JOHN!!!

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ROUND!!! I WONDER WHO'S COMING BACK NEXT :biggrin2:

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:mfr_lol: PEACE!!! JTEYE!!!

[JesterTerrestrial]

In the Love and in the Light of the one Infinite Creator, please bless, guide and protect this forum and all of its members without exception.

AJ..


AMAZING AND INSPIRING!!! :thumb_yello:

[THE eXchanger]

In the Love and in the Light of the one Infinite Creator, please bless, guide and protect this forum and all of its members without exception.

AJ..


AMAZING AND INSPIRING!!! :thumb_yello:

yes, very amasing and inspriing !!!

may everyone be able to 'state' their 'truth'

and, do it safely !!!

[Church]

That was well thought out, and extremely well said, Anchor. I hope many people take your words to heart, and that the vibration of this place will increase back to where it should be!

:)

[viking]

A lot of time...a lot of thought...

And a lot more thanks, Anchor... :thumb_yello:

viking

[morguana]

http://janetalent.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/peace.jpg

and love to you all

love m x

[Céline]

As i said in the other thread, thank you. I am always grateful for the powerful force of the "anchor" in you.

[Majorion]

I am under pressure to accept an administrator role again
Come on Anchor, a lot of people would be happy to hear that you accepted this role again. I know I would. :thumb_yello:

[Steven]

Thank you Anchor! Having different point of view is what makes us Humanity! It is part of learning to share with openess and respect, avoiding falling into personal attack.

Personally, I still think it was a storm in a glass of water (if I compare with my personal experience of fighting for human rights in the amazon jungle), but it's only my point of view! Ah! :lol3:

The spirit is strong and knows no boundaries!

Namaste, Steven

[truthseekerdan]

Thank you Anchor, may you be blessed!

~ Love & Light ~

[orthodoxymoron]

Thank-you Anchor...and Everyone. :thumb_yello:

Maybe the bottom-line in all of this...is that there is both Truth and BS in just about everything...and that we should be both accepting and questioning regarding just about everything. In other words...we never arrive. We are always on our way...and we are mostly our own way.

I've told this story before...but here we go again. A father was in a toy-store...looking for a present for his 5 year-old. He noticed a particularly complicated looking puzzle...and asked a clerk to explain it. The clerk replied 'This puzzle will teach your 5 year-old about life. No matter how he tries to put it together...It's Always Wrong.' I feel like that. No matter how I've tried to put things together...and pursue the truth...It Never Seems to Satisfy Me...or Anyone Else. It Seems to be an Exercise in Futility. But Exercise is a Good Thing...Isn't It?

:original: Namaste :wub2: Constitutional :wink2: Responsible :wub2: Freedom :original:

[seeingterra]

Thank you for your words of wisdom Anchor, very well put :)

I am also pleased to report that our servers have had a record load of visitors and traffic since the new portal and sites came online, even so much traffic that the servers got overloaded for a little while yesterday :D

So in relation to your words Anchor and also our loads of new visitors, I feel this would be a perfect time for a fresh start!

Love and Light,

Tommy

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Personally, I took one look at the first post in the Thuban thread and didn't get through the first paragraph before leaving it and never going back but for anyone involved with that thread then I sincerely hope they learned something positive.


exactly what i did, i do it to lost of threads thuban was no special thread for me to ingnore:lol3: i ignore lots..:sleep_1:

[FIIISH]

Anchor,

I respect your wishes and words.

This is a turbulent time for everyone, and it is reflected
in our interactions with each other here.

We will get through this, on our way to a better place.

Sincerely,

FIIISH

[Rocky_Shorz]

Incredible message...

we are all sitting in an air balloon, and all it took was to set the Anchor free for us to rise... :wink2:

[Carol]

AJ = :wub2:

:surfing:

[lindabaker]

Incredible message...

we are all sitting in an air balloon, and all it took was to set the Anchor free for us to rise... :wink2:


What a perceptive analogy, Rocko! Yeah, lots of hot air but we did achieve liftoff. I say, don't tie the Anchor down. Let the Anchor "ground" us from within, as a member. He will have a beneficial perspective. Let him be Freeeee! Maybe some time in the future he can go back to admin, but let's give him a well deserved break for just a little while! Love to everybody who made it through this crisis of confidence. Remember Avalon of old, anybody? Our time has come again. Linda

[sunflower]

Thank you, Anchor. I know that all of us will come out of this wiser, better and more loving.

[THE eXchanger]

Thank you for your words of wisdom Anchor, very well put :)

I am also pleased to report that our servers have had a record load of visitors and traffic since the new portal and sites came online, even so much traffic that the servers got overloaded for a little while yesterday :D

So in relation to your words Anchor and also our loads of new visitors, I feel this would be a perfect time for a fresh start!

Love and Light,

Tommy

Great News Tommy, super good site :)

[eleni]

Thank you for this most excellent post:original:

[Astra]

:wub2:Thank you Anchor.:wub2:

Love for all,
Astra

[Kikine]

Thank You for your post. That is what Avalon is.:original: We are all united

[conjuredUp]

Gosh, I love you, Anchor.
Always have.

[Devakas]

Anchor healed the bloody thread!!!
All in the past now.

Thank you wise Anchor for all you do!

[Nebula9D]

Well Said Anchor. :thumb_yello: Maybe you are natural born moderator! :original:
Well, let the lessons be learned, wisdom gained and long live avalon.

[islandman]

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http://www.atlascorps.org/UserFiles/Image/white_dove.jpg

[Oliver]

Anchor,
Wheter you are a member or moderator, your contribution to this forum is precious.
Please keep that spirit high enough, the wounds will be healed and the noble nature of Avalon will arise again. I am proud to be here together with this kind of people.

Love&Respect

[morguana]

much love to you john, hope you are doing fine, and your post was very uplifting thx

love m x

[raulduke]

Trying to figure out why all these people are getting mistified. Would this thread be why A.J. was silenced?

[amate]

Thank you Anchor.
You showed the way to go with the flow and to hang on to our own Anchor within

[hippihillbobbi]

Raul Duke--

it wasn't AJ that was banned ..... AJ stands for "Anchor John." the member that was banned was "Abraxasinas," the originator of the Q&A Thuban thread ...... the initial source of all this controversy.

don't doubt that it's difficult to follow, if you either dropped-in in the middle of the brouhaha, or you're a relatively new PA member. Anchor is a well-beloved member who only just recently resigned as a Mod, just because he wanted to ...... prefers being a member to a mod. but he was in the middle of the heat & flames when things started to get "explosive" around here. not only were many of the forum members flaming at each other, but the mods were flaming at each other, and at us, and we flamed at them ...... and so it became a big f___ing mess! (that word was flaming, btw!) :naughty: anyway ...... the upshot is that we went through lots of anger, pain, frustration and turmoil (even B&K weighed in ...... and it appeared that they were on opposite sides, but i'm pretty sure in the end we discovered they were really both on the same track ...... at least about keeping the Thuban thread open (which had been closed and now is reopened as "Read Only," i think.) so now, you're witnessing the process of all of us who love each other here trying to "make it right." we don't want all this pain to go "unutilized" on behalf of our individual and communal (and cosmic, even!) selves. LET US LEARN FROM THIS, we want to proclaim. and let us never forget Who binds us together as One. we and our mother-earth desperately need the power of Unity to activate the memory of our divinity, so that we can love and help her and each other to the best of our naturally divine ability.

Hope this helps, Raul Duke.

hippihillbobbi

[WineHippie]

i noticed that some members have
"in the myst" under their name, can
someone explain what that is, i must
have missed something - Anchor is
one such name, it is not a ban? after
a well-thought out and reasonable,
respectful post such as this OP.... why
would A get lost in the myst? i'm so
confused.... :nono:

[ellie]

i noticed that some members have
"in the myst" under their name, can
someone explain what that is, i must
have missed something - Anchor is
one such name, it is not a ban? after
a well-thought out and reasonable,
respectful post such as this OP.... why
would A get lost in the myst? i'm so
confused.... :nono:

Yeah, can someone pweese explain to ellie why is so Anchor in the misty lands. What he do folks. I iz at loss here.

[raulduke]

Raul Duke--

it wasn't AJ that was banned ..... AJ stands for "Anchor John."

Hi hippihillbobbi, thanks for the clarification, but I didn't say banned, I said silenced, which is what happened to A.J.

Hippie, the "in the mists" designation is an indefinite 'read only' ban. Personally I find that phrase pretty smug, just say banned and lose the euphemism.

Still looking for an official reason for A.J.'s mistification btw.

[enemyofNWO]

Raul Duke--

it wasn't AJ that was banned ..... AJ stands for "Anchor John." the member that was banned was "Abraxasinas," the originator of the Q&A Thuban thread ...... the initial source of all this controversy.

don't doubt that it's difficult to follow, if you either dropped-in in the middle of the brouhaha, or you're a relatively new PA member. Anchor is a well-beloved member who only just recently resigned as a Mod, just because he wanted to ...... prefers being a member to a mod. but he was in the middle of the heat & flames when things started to get "explosive" around here. not only were many of the forum members flaming at each other, but the mods were flaming at each other, and at us, and we flamed at them ...... and so it became a big f___ing mess! (that word was flaming, btw!) :naughty: anyway ...... the upshot is that we went through lots of anger, pain, frustration and turmoil (even B&K weighed in ...... and it appeared that they were on opposite sides, but i'm pretty sure in the end we discovered they were really both on the same track ...... at least about keeping the Thuban thread open (which had been closed and now is reopened as "Read Only," i think.) so now, you're witnessing the process of all of us who love each other here trying to "make it right." we don't want all this pain to go "unutilized" on behalf of our individual and communal (and cosmic, even!) selves. LET US LEARN FROM THIS, we want to proclaim. and let us never forget Who binds us together as One. we and our mother-earth desperately need the power of Unity to activate the memory of our divinity, so that we can love and help her and each other to the best of our naturally divine ability.

Hope this helps, Raul Duke.

hippihillbobbi


OK , It all started with banning a few people and if those people did not break the forum rules , I don't see why they should have been banned in the first place . About the Thuban thread , I only read the first original page and I found the material of no interest to me . Just because that material is not of interest to some people , I don't see why it should be banned .
Wasn't Voltaire who said " I don't agree with your ideas but I will fight for your right to express them " ?
I still do not see why this forum has got to start from zero ...
May be somebody wants to exert more control over the info ...
It would have been much more simple ... if only somebody admitted to mistakes ...

[Frank Samuel]

If you ever wonder why things happen this is the time. The last month or so this has been my question because too many negatives have try to affect me in one way or another. Yesterday about 3:00 am my time on the island about 5 cars smash into each other there was flying car parts that smash into the house. This is a time of transition and each one of us can change the history of our planet, now you say, wait a minute Frank what are you talking about? Put into perspective just how many people are awake and aware on this planet, face it we are a minority. Yet we are a powerful minority. The changes on this forum and struggles within are a reflection of the majority of opposition that in one way or another is trying to derail the incredible miracle that is this forum.
Lets face it not one of us is perfect from the top to the bottom. I just hope that we can see the incredible importance that we have as a group , because like I said we are about to change history and together we can be more effective in creating that change. To the Mods I say everybody has a bad day and I hope that we can learn to forgive, embrace and love each other for we are a unique incredible group that is making a difference in the way we view our 3 dimensional existence on this planet.
Anchor thank you and we are in total agreement. If we let these changes divide us we are becoming victims to the many attacks manifesting in our lives through our exposure to each other on this forum. We represent our world and beyond make your stance and be strong lets continue the fight to awaken this planet we are a hand full that are reaching millions across the globe.

Thank you and blessings to all..:original::thumb_yello::wub2::wub2::wub2:

[pedro m.b.]

"Bring into play the almighty power within you, so that on the stage of life you can fulfill your high destined role."

[pedro m.b.]

Since i´ve join Avalon i have found wonderfull, intelligent and loving people, don´t let the fellings of fear and anger be on you.
when i came to Avalon it was first for the information, soon i realise that it was for the people and the sharing of experiences, fellings and love.
when someone leave or is banned i fell sand, we all make Avalon.

Thank you Anchor

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=853&pictureid=9795

love for all

pedro

[tone3jaguar]

I would be willing to bet that there are pieces to this whole story that none of us will ever become privy to. I am personally OK with that. I am not interested in the past or the future. I am only interested in right now.

My personal philosophy is to never allow myself to feel victimized regardless of what happens in the world around me. You never know where perceived adversity is leading to. I can assure you that using adversity as a tool for learning instead of an excuse for feeling victimized is the only way to make sure that you move through that learning lesson and onto the next one.

Everything that happens in this reality is part of the learning environment. There are no victims. Only people experiencing varying levels of karmic lessons we call adversity. My only advice to those who feel like they are being victimized by the happenings here or elsewhere is to choose not to feel this way. If you don't, you are guaranteeing yourself the same or similar lessons a short time down the road at an even higher level of intensity.

[amate]

My personal philosophy is to never allow myself to feel victimized regardless of what happens in the world around me. You never know where perceived adversity is leading to. I can assure you that using adversity as a tool for learning instead of an excuse for feeling victimized is the only way to make sure that you move through that learning lesson and onto the next one.

Everything that happens in this reality is part of the learning environment. There are no victims. Only people experiencing varying levels of karmic lessons we call adversity. My only advice to those who feel like they are being victimized by the happenings here or elsewhere is to choose not to feel this way. If you don't, you are guaranteeing yourself the same or similar lessons a short time down the road at an even higher level of intensity.

:thumb_yello::wub2:

[bushycat]

Since i´ve join Avalon i have found wonderfull, intelligent and loving people, don´t let the fellings of fear and anger be on you.
when i came to Avalon it was first for the information, soon i realise that it was for the people and the sharing of experiences, fellings and love.
when someone leave or is banned i fell sand, we all make Avalon.

Thank you Anchor

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=853&pictureid=9795

love for all

pedro
Thank you for this beautiful image of light, Pedro. We came here for this.Makes me smile to think of those who've ignited my flame....
In Great Love,
Bushycat

[WineHippie]

I would be willing to bet that there are pieces to this whole story that none of us will ever become privy to. I am personally OK with that. I am not interested in the past or the future. I am only interested in right now.

My personal philosophy is to never allow myself to feel victimized regardless of what happens in the world around me. You never know where perceived adversity is leading to. I can assure you that using adversity as a tool for learning instead of an excuse for feeling victimized is the only way to make sure that you move through that learning lesson and onto the next one.

Everything that happens in this reality is part of the learning environment. There are no victims. Only people experiencing varying levels of karmic lessons we call adversity. My only advice to those who feel like they are being victimized by the happenings here or elsewhere is to choose not to feel this way. If you don't, you are guaranteeing yourself the same or similar lessons a short time down the road at an even higher level of intensity.

i would take it another step, tone3jaguar - i heard this
awhile back, i can't even remember from whom, but
to thank the adversary/negative/bummer for the
opportunity to grow/evolve/spiral up - i am not just passing
this along, i actually tested it - it worked and here is how...
another person and my self had a misunderstanding and for
months ignored each other and it was all so "high school" -
this is not my path.... so every time i saw her, i thanked her,
and i was calm, and open and one day - just like that, we had
a conversation like old friends and we have been mutually
respectful ever since....

[Anchor]

My time here is on this old version of Avalon is done.

I have no wish to sit here and watch it decay further, feeling like a lab animal in a big social experiment.

I roll these quotes out quite often - forgive me if you read it all before.

It is a re-post from this thread http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=228973 which refers to one of the most important topics, in my opinion to ever be discussed on this forum.

In the Law Of One, during an answer to a question about Jesus, "the entity" in the following quote (17.20) Ra stated When the entity had become able to integrate or synthesize all experiences, the entity began to speak to other-selves and teach/learn what it had felt during the preceding years to be of a worthwhile nature. The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self when it was in the last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.

This set in motion a recurring line of questions and answers that went far through the subsequent Q&A's which I have always found fascinating and illuminating on the subject.

18.12 Questioner: You stated yesterday that forgiveness is the eradicator of karma. I am assuming that balanced forgiveness for the full eradication of karma would require forgiveness not only of other-selves but also the forgiveness of self. Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. We will briefly expand upon this understanding in order to clarify.

Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self.

34.4 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define karma?

Ra: I am Ra. Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable.

34.5 Questioner: If an entity develops what is called karma in an incarnation, is there then programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalysts that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness thereby alleviating the karma?

Ra: I am Ra. This is, in general, correct. However, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns. This is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. Thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. This also brakes or stops what you call karma.

Conclusion: forgiveness and healing are interrelated to the extent that they are almost synonymous - the one cannot occur without the other.

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So in coming to this conclusion, I am posting it on my forum healing thread. It is my hope that the energy of this healing offering will reach all those that need it and accept it, and will help all the people and all forums that now stand as bright as ever in Avalon's name, both on the successor forum and the other offshoot forums now well made. The name which as you know is not owned and has very special significance. This is the way of things - it is on a micro scale exactly what will happen to human settlement in the future. People will stratify according to among other things their vibrational qualities - I know I am not alone in predicting this.

There will never be a forum of like of this one. The unique blend of forces have gone. There will never be any forum that is free of any manner of control, it will never be perfect. Life was not going to be easy like that. What works for one does not always work for another. One must tolerate much.

Push too hard on a balanced structure, no matter what the motive behind that force and destruction results. This destruction - the work of Shiva - is well underway.

We just all need to roll with the punches and be true to who we are and move to where we need to be. Follow your hearts and you will go to the right place.

It has been an extreme honor and a great privilege to be among those of this forum. You are all beautiful stars, struggling in the illusion that you created with your yet unknown almighty power.

Jester Terrestrial - never give up - but make sure you choose what you are not giving up on !

This is it.

Time to go.

your Anchor..

[truthseekerdan]

Thank you Anchor.

I really value your wisdom and wish you the best of true Love and blessings.

[Ross H]

Thank you Anchor

Sincerely.

[truth and integrity]

Anchor I have read your post. I believe that you wrote it from your heart. It may sound very inspiring for somebody who does not know what has happened. However, I would like to ask some hard questions that may in fact lead us to the true forgiveness and the real change. You are offering cheap forgiveness that always leads to more pain and anguish. I am sick and tired of it because I have witnessed so many people suffering because of this dysfunctional belief. What you are proposing here is to hide under the carpet the real issues that caused us pain and discomfort, saying that it was done in the name of love. Well, true forgiveness comes form openly admitting what we have done wrong and changing our behavior.

Let’s begin to ask questions.

1 Avalon was created to build community to prepare for future events. Why nobody has asked us about our opinion to move to another forum? This is a sign of total disrespect.

2. Why many treads have been deleted? We want to know who personally was involved in this action.

3 Why the mods have been sent into the Mists? Who is responsible for this decision?

4. What posts have been censored and why? We want to know who personally stands behind this action.



You have stated that “the energy has deflected into INDIGNATION”. Well, anger is a powerful feeling that indicates that we were VIOLETED and motivates us to make the real changes. Anger also is a secondary feeling underneath which lies hurt and sadness. Your proposal ‘Let it end and heal it” is basically begging us to suppress the feelings that may lead us to the real healing. Are we surprised that 27 million people suffer from depression? What about those who suffer from anxiety disorders? Do you see a connection? If the issues are not resolved, they go underground, leaving us open to being reactive, thus causing more conflicts and pain. We may even try to blame astral attacks. When we blame somebody or something, we do not want to take responsibility for our actions; therefore, we can stay as dysfunctional as we want to be. We are not going to stay as you said “stronger and wiser” if those who has caused problems will not have the courage to look what they have done. But it takes the courage and maturity, doesn’t it? Anchor, do you really believe if we offer your version of forgiveness to those who have a serious control issue are going to change?

I hope that my post will no be deleted, as you asked us to be honest.

Love to you all,

[orthodoxymoron]

Anchor...I hope you will read this. I keep thinking about you...and I keep feeling very sad. I'm not sure why, exactly. The totality of your posts...combined with the whole abraxasinas/Thuban phenomenon seems to be somehow connected. I have speculated endlessly (mostly silently and personally)...but I will not speculate presently. The whole phenomenon of life in this Solar System makes me even more sad...and even despondent. I'm trying to understand what's really going on...which makes me insecure, defensive, and reactionary. I'm sorry for any comments of mine which may have been hurtful. None of them were directed at you...but I think some of my threads and posts may have seemed to be irreverent attacks on concepts and beings which I think you may know a helluva lot about. I know I've gotten a lot of things wrong during my short stay here in Avalon...but I'm not exactly sure which comments have missed the mark by the widest margin. I hope that you are OK...and that you will really only be away for a month or two. Maybe someday we could have a beer. Namaste to you Anchor John...from orthodoxymoron. :tears:

[Carol]

You know how life is when moving day comes? All that angst at having to pack up, sort through stuff and then having to move it all to the next place. Indeed a train wreck took place and anything anyone can pretty much say at this point is hindsight.

However, there are now 3 new forums. All of them look inviting for different reasons. Some of us are already developing stretch marks just floating from one forum to the next working on keeping our connections to those who have touched our lives.

There was bound to be upset that this forum is closing its doors because folks are comfortable here. Moving is way up there on the stress scale and Avalon has kind of been like one's living room. And now the furniture is being moved and packed up.

A new site is not such a bad thing. New friends await along with old ones. There are new directions and visions to explore. And each of the new forums also has something old (friends) and something new (visions) for all who are a part of them.

I already am experiencing the energy draining away from Avalon as members find their way to the other forums throughout this transition.

I'm very happy for having met everyone here and all the knowledge collectively each has shared. Avalon is not broken it has just undergone a transformation. Just as the caterpillar spins its chrysalis, once it undergoes metamorphosis it then sheds it protective coating by climbing out, dries its wings, and takes wing. Only now there is a new type of freedom. The freedom to choose, the freedom to share and the freedom to hold onto that, which is dear to the heart. So take a breath fellow Avalonians... this time when we all jump off that cliff, we fly. :thumb_yello:

[JesterTerrestrial]

Jester Terrestrial - never give up - but make sure you choose what you are not giving up on !

This is it.

Time to go.

your Anchor..

:thumb_yello: You betcha!!!

Thank you friend!

PEACE!!!