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greybeard
03-16-2010, 07:30 AM
There is an idea that God created the world then retired to heaven and is waiting there to judge us.
I don't believe that.
At the risk of being annoying I again point to a Mystic of our time Dr David Hawkins.
He is presenting Eternal Truth in a modern scientific way.
The energy of God is Love creating moment by moment through every atom in the Cosmos. Likened to a giant electromagnetic field of which we as electromagnetic are part of.
Nothing comes into existence except through that energy we call God.
God as timeless eternal truth does not change but our perception of Him does as we evolve in consciousness.
The Bible was written for the populous of that time and is still valid as is the Baghavad Gita and other great spiritual works but they were in a language relevant to time and culture, therefore open to miss understanding in our time.
God would not leave us in these troubled times with out advanced spiritual teachers that we can relate to.
Dr Hawkins says that the ego has been the cause of all strife I believe him, he explains how the ego came into being as an animal survival mechanism. It served its purpose well, times change we need to move on.
He also claims that "The book of Revelations" in the Bible was channeled from the lower astral, that it is true for that realm but not true for us. in other words no Armageddon here.
If you can believe Dr Hawkins then you can see that many religious beliefs are founded on a fallacy. Wars have been fought over this book in the Bible. It has certainly produced a lot of fear. Anything that promotes fear could not possibly be attributed to a God of Love.
That would just not make any sense.
Dr Hawkins first book "Power vs Force" is a bridge between the intellect and the heart.
Later books like "The eye of the I" go into great depth on spiritual matters,
If you are really interested in moving forward spiritually I suggest that you at least read "Power vs Force" which has an endorsement by the late St Mother Teresa of Calcutta India.
Love
Chris
RedeZra
03-16-2010, 04:10 PM
God is alive and well
Good News
if God is One
then who are we
if God is Love
then why are we
if God is Truth
then what are we
seems to me that God is
everything everywhere ever
then where came all this diversity from
and why don't we see and feel the underlying unity of God
besides what we see is just the tip of the iceberg
Creation is manifold with diverse layers of existence and beings
what is it that clouds our eyes from the wisdom and vision of Light
it must be a pretty powerful agent of God
perhaps God Himself
hiding
so the sport and play of the countless inhabitants in all levels of existence
will be believed and acted upon
while God oversees it all and intervenes at His own discretion
the Great work of God which He Loves
and if we seek Him in all earnestly we will naturally Love Him and abide His Laws
and He will rush out from His place of hiding and meet the seeker
He is in the Heart in the Heaven in everything Really
greybeard
03-16-2010, 04:59 PM
Hi RedeZra
I believe what you say is so.
We take ten steps towards God and He takes a 100 towards us.
Religious beliefs have always puzzled me.
How can a God of unconditional Love judge us and send us to a hell?
Yes we are told there are consequences for our actions but the advice comes from love, we are not threatened just advised.
My belief in a God of love is born out with much evidence in my life, no need to go into any detail.
Yes there have been difficulties but I always came out the other side stronger and yet humbled by the way things turned out.
With Love
Chris
RedeZra
03-16-2010, 06:28 PM
Religious beliefs have always puzzled me.
How can a God of unconditional Love judge us and send us to a hell?
Yes we are told there are consequences for our actions but the advice comes from love, we are not threatened just advised.
yes I believe God is sentimental lol
and loves us with the Love of a thousand mothers
that is why He is so quick to forgive when someone repents
but God is Truth too
so He is just
the charm of a game is in the rules
if there was no rules to soccer
the game would soon loose all purpose and interest
likewise the Universe is adorned with self governing universal laws
some like gravity is more evident than the cause and effect
when someone chooses to break one of these laws
and does not repent earnestly
then the boomerang of karma will eventually backfire
so we are the cause of our own fortune and misfortune
now it seems we are approaching the end of this age of chaos
a golden age is dawning behind the horizon
an anticipation of harmony is in the air
if the world is to witness peace for a thousand years
then where will the warmongers and their ilks go
perhaps they will be restricted access into the world for a time
but I doubt they will leisurely spend a thousand years in heaven
beren
03-16-2010, 09:27 PM
Greybeard and RedeZra,
I can tell you from my own experience ,as soon as I think that I got it all, in a sense that I finally start to "get it"...
a new layer unfolds before me.
But there is always one string that is present,tiny string which requires a keen eye to see it always and that is ,if you trust God, he will never abandon you and will always lead you through your life towards knowledge that YOU particularly need to own regarding him and his intentions.
What do you think?
greybeard
03-16-2010, 09:47 PM
Greybeard and RedeZra,
I can tell you from my own experience ,as soon as I think that I got it all, in a sense that I finally start to "get it"...
a new layer unfolds before me.
But there is always one string that is present,tiny string which requires a keen eye to see it always and that is ,if you trust God, he will never abandon you and will always lead you through your life towards knowledge that YOU particularly need to own regarding him and his intentions.
What do you think?
Yes Beren
The path is narrow, straight, and time is short.
When I look back the path has been pretty straight.
learning from one teacher/book, then when think I understand another teacher/book appears. Eckhart Tolle I refused four different time/ four different enthusiastic people.
I said " I only read teachers who are enlightened, time is short I have set a goal of enlightenment so I don't read others", little did I know. I thought only Indians were enlightened.
Read the first few pages to please a friend. Wham bang I couldn't put the book"The Power of Now" down, read it 7/8 times, thats a first for me. Enlightenment isn't a personal goal now its a spiritual intention which is different.
Dr Hawkins I was ready for but it came through a friend leaving a cd set with me. That was good, no sooner listened to that then another friend gave me his book.
So looking back I can see the thread. I got exactly what I needed when I needed it.
Same with arriving here.
Question Beren is, Do we actually do anything after the first serious step towards God?
Seems to me we are led every step of the way.
I liken it to getting on a conveyor belt at an airport, once on it it is easier to stay on it.
Becomes effortless.
Oops didn't mean to say so much, -----did I?????
Regards Chris
RedeZra
03-17-2010, 02:11 AM
I can tell you from my own experience ,as soon as I think that I got it all, in a sense that I finally start to "get it"...
a new layer unfolds before me.
But there is always one string that is present,tiny string which requires a keen eye to see it always and that is ,if you trust God, he will never abandon you and will always lead you through your life towards knowledge that YOU particularly need to own regarding him and his intentions.
What do you think?
I think it's brilliant Beren
understanding is like the unfolding
of the thousand petals lotus
when the unfolding is complete
when the understanding is perfect
God will Grace the Soul
this is the silent sermon of Buddha
---
to trust God
to really trust God
to still trust God
after tests and tribulations
that is an accomplishment worthy as the Angels in Heaven
make no mistake about it
God will shake the tree of faith
so the lip serving leaves will fall
greybeard
03-17-2010, 06:05 AM
Thank you both Beren and Redezra
Beautifully put.
Love
Chris
orthodoxymoron
03-17-2010, 06:08 AM
God is alive and well...and living in Orange County...and vacationing in Pine Gap. :original:
greybeard
03-17-2010, 06:27 AM
God is alive and well...and living in Orange County...and vacationing in Pine Gap. :original:
Think I can guess where you live, O.M.:welcomeani:
Happy holiday.----vacation
Regards and Namaste
Chris
orthodoxymoron
03-17-2010, 06:35 AM
Think I can guess where you live, O.M.:welcomeani:
Happy holiday.----vacation
Regards and Namaste
Chris
Namaste from Lunar Base II :original:
MyShadow
03-22-2010, 04:17 PM
Yes, "he" is - in the minds and beliefs of many on this planet. My personal philosophy is whatever brings one comfort during their time in this place - that's ok by me - we all have choices, preferences, ways to find the answers to the purpose of our existence.
For me, I've experienced the major belief systems and have come to a clear understanding of ego - and have been able to "let go". If you study the social anthropology and biology of our leap into existence, you can clearly see how the human spirit and the modern day psyche came to be.
We are "babies" in the scheme of evolutionary time. What I find is that we are slowly opening up to a clear view of this reality. An interesting perspective that in order to cope in this environment, one has to filter it's experiences in delusions. A distinct characteristic of the human spirit.
Some, including me, are turning this page.
orthodoxymoron
03-22-2010, 04:55 PM
Are Interdimensional Draconian Reptilian Beings and Perfectly Possessed Human Beings playing God? Be very careful how you define 'God'...and be even more careful who you worship, praise, obey, and submit to. Does 'One Nation Under God' not imply a theocracy? Is the United States of America really a theocracy? What if the harsh reality is that we are really dealing with 'One Nation Under Satan'? Don't dismiss these questions by assuming that I'm just a bitter atheistic rebel. I am not. I just want a Solar System Exorcism...to remove all demonic influences from Earth...and from the rest of the Solar System. I fear that we live in a Haunted Planet...and that many of the Powers That Be Are Dealing With the Devil.
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