Project avalon 2.. Are you havin a laugh?

[Jack]

Whats this all about? This is the absolute height of irony, a website revolving around truth, and the coming together of mature adults in order to bring down those who rule by division is being "divided and conquered".. The very site itself is under threat against the will of the majority, because of a few who are in a position to make "difficult" decisions.

Ive not had the time to be around lately, so in that light i'm not to sure whats going on, but if its what it looks like then its an utter disgrace.


But this is what happens, divide and conquer. Can we not even at the level we are at, live in peace with one another and treat all with respect. If we all do this, then even those who wish to drive a wedge will have no power for their only power stems from the negative reactions they provoke from others, and if these people are wise enough to respond to jibes with some love and wisdom then united we shall stand.

If ive gotten this wrong and there is not a plan to divide up project avalon then please disregard this message.

[JesterTerrestrial]

hey JACK GREAT POST...LET ME ADD ANOTHER THING FOR YA'LL

THAT IS WHY I AM NOT GOING AVALON 2!!!

AND I DO NOT TRUST THE TEAM!!!

SOMETHINGS GOING ON!!!

WERE GONNA GET TO THE BOTTOM OF SOME THINGS FIRST!!!

LIKE WHO'S DRIVING THIS BOAT!!!

SO I STAND. AVALON'S LOOSE CANNON!!!

I AM THE FENCE!!! :insane:

PEACE JT!

:thumb_yello:

[swordsmith]

and im sitting right on that fence mate , :original: It's quite a view:shocked:

[Jack]

and im sitting right on that fence mate , :original: It's quite a view:shocked:


Yes, and be carefull you dont loose your balance with that big pot youve been stirring.

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[JesterTerrestrial]

I got some friends in high places!!!

Thank you.

Whats this all about? This is the absolute height of irony, a website revolving around truth, and the coming together of mature adults in order to bring down those who rule by division is being "divided and conquered".. The very site itself is under threat against the will of the majority, because of a few who are in a position to make "difficult" decisions.

Ive not had the time to be around lately, so in that light i'm not to sure whats going on, but if its what it looks like then its an utter disgrace.


But this is what happens, divide and conquer. Can we not even at the level we are at, live in peace with one another and treat all with respect. If we all do this, then even those who wish to drive a wedge will have no power for their only power stems from the negative reactions they provoke from others, and if these people are wise enough to respond to jibes with some love and wisdom then united we shall stand.

If ive gotten this wrong and there is not a plan to divide up project avalon then please disregard this message.

:thumb_yello:

What else you think about this whole fourm...somehow we need to fix it up so we can fly!

[Jack]

I got some friends in high places!!!

Thank you.



:thumb_yello:

What else you think about this whole fourm...somehow we need to fix it up so we can fly!

Hey man, well im pretty sure that the first step in clearing this place up would be for people to realise that this forum is currently RIFE with disinformation agents who have made their way through the cracks at an opportune moment to reinforce the state of disharmony.

People would want to start speaking up before this forum becomes a carbon copy of the real world.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Hey man, well im pretty sure that the first step in clearing this place up would be for people to realise that this forum is currently RIFE with disinformation agents who have made their way through the cracks at an opportune moment to reinforce the state of disharmony.

People would want to start speaking up before this forum becomes a carbon copy of the real world.

THAT WHY IM NOT PLAYING THEIR GAMES...

WE'RE GONNA PLAY MINE!!!

WATCH ME!!! I DON'T CARE!!!

I TOLD YOU!!! I AM ALREADY MYSTIFIED!!!

SO PROVE TO AVALON WHERE YOU STAND!!!

HIT THAT MAGIC BUTTON!!!

IM TELLING YOU MAN...I GOT MY FLIPPIN EYE OPEN!!!

DID I ASK YOU WHO THE HECK YOUR WORKIN FOR YET :mfr_lol:

PEACE JT!

We need more ideas! Keep it comin

[hobbit]

Hey man, well im pretty sure that the first step in clearing this place up would be for people to realise that this forum is currently RIFE with disinformation agents who have made their way through the cracks at an opportune moment to reinforce the state of disharmony.

People would want to start speaking up before this forum becomes a carbon copy of the real world.

Could You please state who is a disinformation agent, otherwise it is YOU.
Hobbit

[mntruthseeker]

THAT WHY IM NOT PLAYING THEIR GAMES...

WE'RE GONNA PLAY MINE!!!

WATCH ME!!! I DON'T CARE!!!

I TOLD YOU!!! I AM ALREADY MYSTIFIED!!!

SO PROVE TO AVALON WHERE YOU STAND!!!

HIT THAT MAGIC BUTTON!!!

IM TELLING YOU MAN...I GOT MY FLIPPIN EYE OPEN!!!

DID I ASK YOU WHO THE HECK YOUR WORKIN FOR YET :mfr_lol:

PEACE JT!

We need more ideas! Keep it comin


HEY JESTER..............WHO THE HECK YOU WORKING FOR ?

psss Curious minds would like to know :naughty:

[JesterTerrestrial]

HEY JESTER..............WHO THE HECK YOU WORKING FOR ?

psss Curious minds would like to know :naughty:


HAHA... I already answered this but since you demanded so nice! :lmfao:

I'll tell you again! GOD!

Do you understand the meaning of the word COVERT! :shocked: Just jokin. OR AM EYE!

Look what happened to spiritual teachers in the past...how were they treated!!!

The people need a voice. But we need enough people with a voice so that we will not be over run with lies from trolls and agents.

We should have some kind of voting system where we can all decide and have control of the island and the moderation of it. However this takes responsible adults. This was the job of our moderation team. Look what has happened. THE INTEGRITY OF THE TEAM IS IN JEOPARDY!!! IF AVALON'S TOP POSTER CAN'T TRUST THIS FORUM HOW CAN ANYONE ELSE!!! WHO'S BACK STAGE AND WHAT DO YOU WANT!!!

YOU WILL NOT GET ANY MORE WHISTLE BLOWERS UNTIL THIS IS FIXED!!!

PEACE JT!

[orthodoxymoron]

I'm with you...Jester and Jack! :thumb_yello: Fence-riders form splinter-groups! :naughty:

[HORIZONS]

Whats this all about? This is the absolute height of irony, a website revolving around truth, and the coming together of mature adults in order to bring down those who rule by division is being "divided and conquered".. The very site itself is under threat against the will of the majority, because of a few who are in a position to make "difficult" decisions.

Ive not had the time to be around lately, so in that light i'm not to sure whats going on, but if its what it looks like then its an utter disgrace.


But this is what happens, divide and conquer. Can we not even at the level we are at, live in peace with one another and treat all with respect. If we all do this, then even those who wish to drive a wedge will have no power for their only power stems from the negative reactions they provoke from others, and if these people are wise enough to respond to jibes with some love and wisdom then united we shall stand.

If ive gotten this wrong and there is not a plan to divide up project avalon then please disregard this message.

Agreed!!! Good post.

[Connecting with Sauce]

lets hope this place sorts it's self out... but I'm not seeing any sign of it...

Maybe it's about time we connected with the real world ;)

It was nice sailing in this ship avalon...

[carriblu]

Hey man, well im pretty sure that the first step in clearing this place up would be for people to realise that this forum is currently RIFE with disinformation agents who have made their way through the cracks at an opportune moment to reinforce the state of disharmony.

People would want to start speaking up before this forum becomes a carbon copy of the real world.

hey Jack, thanks for stepping up around here, both with the chemtrails thread and now with this one. i am right there with you on this post, there are deffinitely a lot of people here carefully seeding bad information and instigating arguments trying to get people to pick sides. i'm not sure what to do exactly so i've just been observing it all. it's a sad thing to see. i dont understand the move to make an 'avalon 2' as i imagine that's exactly what the infiltrators around here want.

[chitty]

Whats this all about? This is the absolute height of irony, a website revolving around truth, and the coming together of mature adults in order to bring down those who rule by division is being "divided and conquered".. The very site itself is under threat against the will of the majority, because of a few who are in a position to make "difficult" decisions.

Ive not had the time to be around lately, so in that light i'm not to sure whats going on, but if its what it looks like then its an utter disgrace.


But this is what happens, divide and conquer. Can we not even at the level we are at, live in peace with one another and treat all with respect. If we all do this, then even those who wish to drive a wedge will have no power for their only power stems from the negative reactions they provoke from others, and if these people are wise enough to respond to jibes with some love and wisdom then united we shall stand.

If ive gotten this wrong and there is not a plan to divide up project avalon then please disregard this message.

Thanks Jack:thumb_yello:

[vytiense]

:original:

Hello All,

I am a slightly confused, middle-aged American from North Carolina. I am grateful for the opportunity to express myself on this forum every so often. But most of all, I appreciate all the wonderful information and great ideas I have gained from visiting here. For a few moments most evenings, I can come here and feel like I am a part of the human condition. Thanks to all of you who have shared, and to Bill and Kerry who made it all possible. I hate to see it end, but it has made me a better person, and I wanted to thank you all for making me better. Peace and respect,

vytiense

[futureyes]

wasn't that long ago avalon was sailing the ocean blue ... her crew freely exchanging information with one another ...
for the good of all ... moving forward ... seeking truth ... collectively ...
ship and crew strong ...

did you feel ... how rapidly the storm hit ...
did we even see it coming ... so quicly the wheel taken from us ...
storm began to rip our vessel apart ... waves creeped so high in the darkness ...

our crew members ... some lost their footing ... lost out to sea ...
some were pushed off ...
others simply chose to jump ... a storm such as this one they'd never had experienced ...

the great avalon ship ... spun spun and spun again with the waves ...
round and round she went some more ...

no one ... could or would say what took the wheel of her ... steering her clearly in a different direction ...
off course ...
of course ...

storm began to settle ... remaining crew angered ... look what has become of our ship of truth now ...
her sails tattered ... crew disheartened ... captain(s) no longer on board ...

but wait ... look to the horizon ... there is a new ship visible ... not as large as the great original avalon ... not as old ...
new and intact ... signaling ... for our crew to come aboard ...
promising ...


i felt this storm as it ripped through our beloved avalon ...
separating and tearing its crew apart ... in doing so ... we became angry and hostile with one another ...
no longer respectful or even tolerant of one another's words ...

how quickly this storm passed through ... leaving this destruction ...
destruction of what was once a tall ... free sailing ship of truth ... all of us steering her where she needs to be ...
collectively ...

breaks my heart ... feeling this now ... what is left after the storm had passed ...
feeling ... how the agenda of darkness ... allowed us to forget ... who we really are ...
and ... what our ship truly stood for ...
why we had gathered upon avalon's deck to begin with ... as sovereign individuals ...
contributing ... what we could ... to the greater good of her journey to seek truth ...

what are we left with in this moment ... saddens me ...

i feel ... our great ship ... could and should be repaired ...
mend the sails i say ... allow her to continue on her quest ...
allow her to do so with all crew who have the desire within ... to not leave her ...

i feel ... if there is even a small door of opportunity to repair what has been broken here ...
it should be taken ...
this ship ... has the greatest of foundation ...
it only takes the will power of the mind ... and the desire of the heart ... to allow our beloved avalon ship to continue sailing ...

it is a time ... whereby negative energies ... agend to take us down ...
why ...
because we are on our way up ...
this is that time ... those energies will take action ... in any way possible ... to hinder or stop us from finally living our truth ...
to stop all of humankind in doing so ...
to keep us separated ...
that energy ... is at our heels now ...

it will be greatly disheartening ... to witness this great ship of avalon fade ...
to have her remain as a read only vessel ... is to take her voice away ...
she will then ... surely fade into the night ...

free will ... all crew should follow their hearts ... go where it feels appropriate our path leads us to ...
closer even ... to our truth ...

for me ... i feel much viability still remains here ... i feel crew member's desire to want to stay ... repair the damage ... know the truth ...
clean up avalon's decks ... put up new sails ... beautiful new colored sails ... bright and vivacious ...
sails of truth ... sails of free thinking ... free speaking ...
with respect ... to all on board ...

for me ... nothing else feels more right ...

no matter what other ships have recently been built for us to board ...
in my heart ... this is the one i feel still has the greatest potential ... of serving truth to one another ...

i will not jump ship ... i believe in avalon ...

i believe ...

we should try to find a way ...

or make one ...


blessings avalon ...

a ship whom sails like no other ...



carpe diem ...

:wub2:

[josie]

Hey man, well im pretty sure that the first step in clearing this place up would be for people to realise that this forum is currently RIFE with disinformation agents who have made their way through the cracks at an opportune moment to reinforce the state of disharmony.

People would want to start speaking up before this forum becomes a carbon copy of the real world.

hey mr jack

i love you to the ends of the earth til the cows come home. i will, mr jack... love you forever. i am your princess member?

n i am so lookin forward to seein you at av2... when you get your internet back up and respond to your invitation? ;)

k sweetie. my GRANDSON will be here in 8 days. and i gotta massivly heal my silly body on top of all that too. to keep up w him! then there's the new rules at avalon... produce! save the planet now!

k sugar. got you pm. thank you for that. i was jonesin for you a bit from time to time :)

we got our blog mrjackandme.blogspot

add to it anytime my love.

i will once more but not 2nite.

sweet dreams mr jack

i will love you forever and ever!

love.
josie

[Fredkc]

Could You please state who is a disinformation agent, otherwise it is YOU.
Hobbit
1/3 to 1/2 of the "New Posts" list are people either advertising to go somewhere else, or whining about how there's no "free speech" here.

Then seeingterra comes by daily, digs through the trash, and posts his own commercial.

all laughable, as you don't see them doing this over at Wilcock's or Icke's forum.

Sure glad I've something better to do. Trolling here for people to invite is painful enough.

Fred

[Phtha]

:mfr_lol: Jester.

I'm with you guys. No Avalon2. Its quite obvious what happened here. Whether it was done by ego, orchestrated dis info, or ignorance, doesn't matter to me.

Have you guys heard that the new Avalon2 site according to an official announcement is run by the 'same people' who work on wilcocks site... which is censored to the max, and full of the classic new age dis info.

Ah well, I have to say that I enjoy watching the show unfold. It will be interesting to see what happens.
:thumb_yello:

[Fredkc]

:mfr_lol: Jester.

I'm with you guys. No Avalon2. Its quite obvious what happened here. Whether it was done by ego, orchestrated dis info, or ignorance, doesn't matter to me.

Have you guys heard that the new Avalon2 site according to an official announcement is run by the 'same people' who work on wilcocks site... which is censored to the max, and full of the classic new age dis info.

Ah well, I have to say that I enjoy watching the show unfold. It will be interesting to see what happens.
:thumb_yello:

What an amazing post! There is not a single true statement in the whole bunch. Thanks for all your help.

[Phtha]

Why? Just because Freddy says so? Or do you have some sort of proof you can share with us all... are you holding out on us freddy? tssk tsskk :lmao:

What an amazing post! There is not a single true statement in the whole bunch. Thanks for all your help.

[greybeard]

Future eyes I love your post and it resonates with me.
Unfortunately while we are this ship we dont own it.
Part of me says give AV2 a chance.
The other part says I dont really need any forum to be what I am.

I appreciate that there is and will continue to be this forum for a while yet.
I have learned so much from new friends here.

Just moving house does not necessarily cure the challenges of this forum and there are a few.
For example In the beginning of Christianity there was one church, now there are over 30,000 Christian churches, each one broke away from another, each one had "proof" that they had it right. The original church is still the bigest as far as I know.
I m not a member of any religion.
At the risk of being repetitive, there is a single cause of all challenges, a single cause of disunity, a single obstacle to Oneness being realized and that is the ego.
When there is awareness that that is the obstacle it begins to disolve.
Seems simple but in my humble opinion that is it.

Honoring and respecting all points of view, let us respect each other.
From the heart
Chris

[Starlah]

[QUOTE=futureyes;258352][COLOR="Cyan"][B]wasn't that long ago avalon was sailing the ocean blue ... her crew freely exchanging information with one another ...
for the good of all ... moving forward ... seeking truth ... collectively ...
ship and crew strong ...

did you feel ... how rapidly the storm hit ...
did we even see it coming ... so quicly the wheel taken from us ...
storm began to rip our vessel apart ... waves creeped so high in the darkness ...

our crew members ... some lost their footing ... lost out to sea ...
some were pushed off ...
others simply chose to jump ... a storm such as this one they'd never had experienced ...

the great avalon ship ... spun spun and spun again with the waves ...
round and round she went some more ...

no one ... could or would say what took the wheel of her ... steering her clearly in a different direction ...
off course ...
of course ...

storm began to settle ... remaining crew angered ... look what has become of our ship of truth now ...
her sails tattered ... crew disheartened ... captain(s) no longer on board ...

but wait ... look to the horizon ... there is a new ship visible ... not as large as the great original avalon ... not as old ...
new and intact ... signaling ... for our crew to come aboard ...
promising ...


i felt this storm as it ripped through our beloved avalon ...
separating and tearing its crew apart ... in doing so ... we became angry and hostile with one another ...
no longer respectful or even tolerant of one another's words ...

how quickly this storm passed through ... leaving this destruction ...
destruction of what was once a tall ... free sailing ship of truth ... all of us steering her where she needs to be ...
collectively ...

breaks my heart ... feeling this now ... what is left after the storm had passed ...
feeling ... how the agenda of darkness ... allowed us to forget ... who we really are ...
and ... what our ship truly stood for ...
why we had gathered upon avalon's deck to begin with ... as sovereign individuals ...
contributing ... what we could ... to the greater good of her journey to seek truth ...

what are we left with in this moment ... saddens me ...

i feel ... our great ship ... could and should be repaired ...
mend the sails i say ... allow her to continue on her quest ...
allow her to do so with all crew who have the desire within ... to not leave her ...

i feel ... if there is even a small door of opportunity to repair what has been broken here ...
it should be taken ...
this ship ... has the greatest of foundation ...
it only takes the will power of the mind ... and the desire of the heart ... to allow our beloved avalon ship to continue sailing ...

it is a time ... whereby negative energies ... agend to take us down ...
why ...
because we are on our way up ...
this is that time ... those energies will take action ... in any way possible ... to hinder or stop us from finally living our truth ...
to stop all of humankind in doing so ...
to keep us separated ...
that energy ... is at our heels now ...

it will be greatly disheartening ... to witness this great ship of avalon fade ...
to have her remain as a read only vessel ... is to take her voice away ...
she will then ... surely fade into the night ...

free will ... all crew should follow their hearts ... go where it feels appropriate our path leads us to ...
closer even ... to our truth ...

for me ... i feel much viability still remains here ... i feel crew member's desire to want to stay ... repair the damage ... know the truth ...
clean up avalon's decks ... put up new sails ... beautiful new colored sails ... bright and vivacious ...
sails of truth ... sails of free thinking ... free speaking ...
with respect ... to all on board ...

for me ... nothing else feels more right ...

no matter what other ships have recently been built for us to board ...
in my heart ... this is the one i feel still has the greatest potential ... of serving truth to one another ...

i will not jump ship ... i believe in avalon ...

i believe ...

we should try to find a way ...

or make one ...


blessings avalon ...

a ship whom sails like no other ...



carpe diem ...

:wub2:


Future Eyes I love your posting and love to you for expressing the very Soul of Avalon....I call on all Avalonians of Heart not to desert their sinking ship...
__________________________________________________ ________
To err is Human, to forgive is Divine..............William Shakespeare

[Boober]

Waaaaa, mommy Im not in AV2 wheres my blanky? Get over it! There better than all of you AV1 people anyway! (whisper) ok guys was that harsh enough, are you going to let me up to AV2, so I know I am special and am spiritually advanced enough to discuss imaginary things that I will never accomplish? Cough um ummmm Yeah so for everyone at AV1 stop being babies so what your not evolved enough, so what you cant type in MLA format, or you dont have a works cited page, get over it at least you know your kind of good enough to hang out in AV1 , ahahahahhah lol, sorry i couldnt say that with a straight face. Suckers!!!!!! One day you will get an invitation, mmmm ahahaha llol , yeah right , maybe an invitation to peopleofthemist. Start blowing some whistles and maybe we will let you up in AV2. Act like you know what your talking about, but never disagree or not kiss some major AV2 @ s s when you get a chance. If you want to move up, your gonna need to forget about brown nosing or shoulders length , you are going to literally going to have to shove your whole body up .....(self censorship) you get the picture though. And say Thank you it smells great! Kind of like rose's. All with a smile.
:original::original::original::original::original: :original:

[Oliver]

wasn't that long ago avalon was sailing the ocean blue ... her crew freely exchanging information with one another ...
for the good of all ... moving forward ... seeking truth ... collectively ...
ship and crew strong ...

did you feel ... how rapidly the storm hit ...
did we even see it coming ... so quicly the wheel taken from us ...
storm began to rip our vessel apart ... waves creeped so high in the darkness ...

our crew members ... some lost their footing ... lost out to sea ...
some were pushed off ...
others simply chose to jump ... a storm such as this one they'd never had experienced ...

the great avalon ship ... spun spun and spun again with the waves ...
round and round she went some more ...

no one ... could or would say what took the wheel of her ... steering her clearly in a different direction ...
off course ...
of course ...

storm began to settle ... remaining crew angered ... look what has become of our ship of truth now ...
her sails tattered ... crew disheartened ... captain(s) no longer on board ...

but wait ... look to the horizon ... there is a new ship visible ... not as large as the great original avalon ... not as old ...
new and intact ... signaling ... for our crew to come aboard ...
promising ...


i felt this storm as it ripped through our beloved avalon ...
separating and tearing its crew apart ... in doing so ... we became angry and hostile with one another ...
no longer respectful or even tolerant of one another's words ...

how quickly this storm passed through ... leaving this destruction ...
destruction of what was once a tall ... free sailing ship of truth ... all of us steering her where she needs to be ...
collectively ...

breaks my heart ... feeling this now ... what is left after the storm had passed ...
feeling ... how the agenda of darkness ... allowed us to forget ... who we really are ...
and ... what our ship truly stood for ...
why we had gathered upon avalon's deck to begin with ... as sovereign individuals ...
contributing ... what we could ... to the greater good of her journey to seek truth ...

what are we left with in this moment ... saddens me ...

i feel ... our great ship ... could and should be repaired ...
mend the sails i say ... allow her to continue on her quest ...
allow her to do so with all crew who have the desire within ... to not leave her ...

i feel ... if there is even a small door of opportunity to repair what has been broken here ...
it should be taken ...
this ship ... has the greatest of foundation ...
it only takes the will power of the mind ... and the desire of the heart ... to allow our beloved avalon ship to continue sailing ...

it is a time ... whereby negative energies ... agend to take us down ...
why ...
because we are on our way up ...
this is that time ... those energies will take action ... in any way possible ... to hinder or stop us from finally living our truth ...
to stop all of humankind in doing so ...
to keep us separated ...
that energy ... is at our heels now ...

it will be greatly disheartening ... to witness this great ship of avalon fade ...
to have her remain as a read only vessel ... is to take her voice away ...
she will then ... surely fade into the night ...

free will ... all crew should follow their hearts ... go where it feels appropriate our path leads us to ...
closer even ... to our truth ...

for me ... i feel much viability still remains here ... i feel crew member's desire to want to stay ... repair the damage ... know the truth ...
clean up avalon's decks ... put up new sails ... beautiful new colored sails ... bright and vivacious ...
sails of truth ... sails of free thinking ... free speaking ...
with respect ... to all on board ...

for me ... nothing else feels more right ...

no matter what other ships have recently been built for us to board ...
in my heart ... this is the one i feel still has the greatest potential ... of serving truth to one another ...

i will not jump ship ... i believe in avalon ...

i believe ...

we should try to find a way ...

or make one ...


blessings avalon ...

a ship whom sails like no other ...



carpe diem ...

:wub2:






Futureyes,
Thank you, beautiful soul, for this post.
I can feel how sincere is your sadness about Avalon.
But also your HOPE.
As Kulapops said in an other thread, all the pepole from Avalon, Avalon2, This Mists of Avalon are - the same place, with the same hearts beating for common hope.
I want to believe all of this can be fixed and repaired, very easily actually, just if a real will in a rel place is present.
Let us try.

[Swanny]

Well I've joined pa2 but am giving it a probationary run. If it turns out to be a dictatorship then I will dump it :original:

[Kra]

Boober i think you have gone a little off the road.

[Boober]

Boober i think you have gone a little off the road.

lol, I agree, but hey i didnt make the thread , just adding to the subject. Speaking for people who are to afraid to speak up kind of thing. Plus, ....ah nevermind.

[morguana]

i am understanding how you all are feeling, however av2 was something we have been working on for a few months now, so it is not a reaction to all the trouble we have been having here. why av2? well we have been experiencing outages here, and have had lots of probs with glitches in the softwear etc....as you all probably know. also we have felt that a better more user friendly interface would be a good idea.

also if folks are intereseted in joining av2, please email admin and let them know that you wish to join. although its invite only, it is not a closed group, we just didnt want to go back to subs and this was an answer that we felt would work better. so please pass on this and enjoy

much love m x

[Boober]

also if folks are intereseted in joining av2, please email admin and let them know that you wish to join. although its invite only,


lol, that just sounds funny. No , whats funny is that , me personally I would never want to get invited to AV2 and I kind of made sure that wouldnt happen when i directed some posts to certain people. But some people are really into this forum like its there whole thing, and they didnt get invited. And even know you ask them to send an email. They dont want to be put on trial to see if they can hang out with the "cool" kids. So come on seriously. Thats kind of messed up , what if you deny them after they email you. Sorry but you suck no AV2 for you , lol. Im sorry but that aint a good look. Anyway for me honestly I like that there is an AV2 and an AV1, I like not being part of an elite group, thats how I will always roll. And I respect anyone on here who got an invite and said naw, but I know alot of people here really want to be apart of AV2 , so hopefully they made it. But for the people who didnt. Is there anyway we can post a list up, of all the only AV1 people so i can know who my people are?? Thanks

[swordsmith]

Howdy boober, I wanted to auction my invite but I DONT THINK THEY WILL LET ME oops didnt mean to shout. Am I one of your peeps then ? Am I ? Am I?
Don't think your list will be very long somehow.

[Gordopangrawit]

Curiously enough, when looking at the map with all of the red spotty things, I noticed a smattering of red spots all over Central Australia. My question is, just how many of the Tjapalljaris from Papunya would be interested in Avalon ?

[swordsmith]

do tell Gordon, I am all ears... know a good plastic surgeon?

[Kra]

Boober you are doing nothing with that post but help people divide and perpetuate the illusion that they have to choose and pick sides. AV2 is not about that... and it is not an elite community. I for one like the ideea of "invite only" because not all frustrated and negative people can join and post there to bring the community to a low vibrational level and distract the attention or at least try. It is a better filter against agents and trolls and so on.

[Boober]

Howdy boober, I wanted to auction my invite but I DONT THINK THEY WILL LET ME oops didnt mean to shout. Am I one of your peeps then ? Am I ? Am I?
Don't think your list will be very long somehow.

Much Respect Swordsmith, see honestly for a lot of people I know it would mean a lot if they got an invite, but they didnt. Me , I know Im good. but I will make fun of AV2 all day long to make my people, aka AV1ers! feel better. Like always i know my spot Ill be paddling in my canoe(AV1) making

fun of your yacht(AV2) . You shot them down, lol, I like your style swordsmith you cool with me. Hopefully after all this bs dies down, AV1 will get back on making constructive posts. But i have a feeling even when it does and it will, the AV2 people will come down bragging with there AV2

membership, and talk above & down to everyone down here. Well thats where I will be. Where ever an AV2 tries to talk down to an AV1er I will be there, whenever a AV1er wants to feel apart of something I will be there, ( To make an really weird comment)

cause guess what you are apart of something my AV1ers you didnt get invited. Seriously take pride in that! Everyone here, almost everyone here, wants to be apart of a movement that is contrubiting to something bigger than themselves, even if they dont post the best whistle blowing material or there not friends with the right people or

there language isnt up to par. There here to just be in involved in the dialouge. And there not good enough for your invite Scr@@w your invite. This goes out to all my people who have alot of posts and are confused on why they didnt get invited or sad. Man if there is anyone on here seriously sad. I am here for you. You are one of us your an AV1er, thats from the heart.

Now on a side note to all of the little annoying people just coming here to destroy it and post your destructive weak useless posts, @@@@ you too! lol I know who you are , but again to my people who are seriously sad or hurt they didnt get an invite I am here for you. Remember you didnt get the invite, your not one of THEM.
Peace and Love and Light

[Kra]

Sad indeed to read such posts. There is no us and them. There is just us... all... the whole Avalon family. We are not gangsters.

[Boober]

Boober you are doing nothing with that post but help people divide and perpetuate the illusion that they have to choose and pick sides. AV2 is not about that... and it is not an elite community. I for one like the ideea of "invite only" because not all frustrated and negative people can join and post there to bring the community to a low vibrational level and distract the attention or at least try. It is a better filter against agents and trolls and so on.

I get you bro, really I get it. But trust me your forgetting about a lot of people who wanted to get invited. Its funny most of the AV2 people gave alot of power to the annoying destructive posters, bc on the real , there the ones who responded to there posts instead of ignoring them. They took this thing to the next level. I find it funny, you forget about the people who added to those threads and were against them but they carried on the negative vibes, by not ignoring up and ignoring them. Look at the other thread entitled check your email, there are people in there will a lot of posts who didnt get an invite, and now they have to ask , THEY HAVE TO ASK! what is wrong with them. see alot of people in here cant bring alot of important info, but they like to discuss it in a POSITIVE way, there just gald to be here, but what bc they dont know someone one who knows someone who is related to someone who is a blackopps guy. Come on man, your missing my point, lol, but its cool, i get where your coming from. I hear ya, but hear me. I think you dont get where i am really coming from, lol, but its all good.

[Boober]

Sad indeed to read such posts. There is no us and them. There is just us... all... the whole Avalon family. We are not gangsters.

Ok theres not, let me ask you this then guy, did you get an invite??

[Boober]

lol, i know noone at AV2 will talk down to a person on here, or act try an talk above anyone , I know that, but you need to understand they will be in a way, and some people already are. I already see certain people asking hey did you get an invite, then people say no, oh you didnt, , then there is this akward flashback of people feeling left out, well let me see what i can do, Right there is what I am talking about, "Let me see what I can do", thats the dialect im talking about. Now the person who didnt get the invite is instantly kissing up ok cool, you will , thank you, I will always be nice to you, lol, you guys need to realize the people who are on this site. Besides the annoying blue children ,lol, or the others. People just sitting at there computer all day posting all day. Nothing really research based, but they throw in a line and they get really excited about being in a alien conversation or they talked about a personal experience, but they dont know the right people, or they didnt post the "right" way, they have , exact words I heard in the chat room "nothing to contribute", what really nothing to contribute, what do you have to contribute. To all my AV1ers I got love for ya. Remember you didnt get invited! and I love you for that!

[swordsmith]

that's really sweet boober, the canoe is the place to be my man.

...and for those aghast at my recieving an invitation and especially those awaiting a pre invite or whatever, well, I consider it like them asking the bad fairy to cinderella's ( or was it snowhite's) christening, Either that or you just weren't BAAD enough.
Cheers boober, integrity is all, some just don't get mine.

[Kra]

Boober yes i got invited. AV2 it's at beginning. Just because not all members got invited yet does not mean that they will never be. And those that are invited can invite others.

/edit: I think you are looking from the wrong angle, that is my opinion... you see what you choose to see. It has to do with your perception.

[Ross H]

Ok theres not, let me ask you this then guy, did you get an invite??

There are 6800 odd members, we are compiling contact names, e-mail addys, ips ect, to invite, a huge job.

Again I say: there are very few members who wont be invited due to persistent unconstructive behavior as per Bill Ryans request and vision for the forum.

Please be patient, a lot of work to do!

Ross H

[Kulapops]

I posted this elsewhere, apologies if you've already read my take on this, but it's either this, or have me regurgitate it in another way.

So much alignment going on. That is the key, that is the thing to watch for. Do you really want to believe that you are this or that. Have you always done that, your whole life? Or are you finding yourself taking a special interest in that now? Think about it.

We are living in times of extreme duality it seems. Getting on with someone 5 minutes ago? Not now you're not... :original:

It's almost like a repetition of the Tower of Babel for modern times. :mfr_omg:

Only what's funny is that this is 'pick a cause week'. Doesn't matter which , or who.. but pick a cause and stick to it! :lightsabre:

Shout it from the rooftops. Align yourself. You're either with 'us'... or you're with the terrorists... :mad3: There's all kinds of 'us' just now. So pick one !

Yep, we weren't the first ones to take a side with duality, but now there's so much more choice !

You can pick a moderator.. a founder.. a member.. even a forum... let alone a point of view...

and Go for it!

(edit: add to that those with tickets supporting those without...those without tickets supporting those with, those with tickets supporting those with, those without supporting those without. Those who hate tickets, those who love tickets...)

Yay.. cause that is what is really happening right now. Alignment

But maybe I'm just alignining with that thought too?

I've got my invite to Avalon 2.0.. thanks for that... :thumb_yello:

(lol.. What is it about Glastonbury? Anyone here been to the festival knows what I'm talking about... It's been years since getting in to Avalon was an easy affair. I suspect getting into Avalon 2 will be much easier than most believe and a darned site easier than getting a ticket into Glastonbury Festival.)

I've also taken a look at the Mists forum, and there is a really nice vibe there too from what I've seen.

So no need to be unhappy. There's a place to be, and there will be all the people you ever needed in your life right there, wherever you find yourself.

Hell, I'm more worried about having to catch up on two forums, when I don't even want to be at One !!

Now if you don't have an invite, and never get one, then you don't have a choice, so you have nothing to worry about. But if you have an invite or get one soon then you will have a dilemma..."who to align with?"

Which friends, which ethics, which morals and it doesn't matter to the energies right now what you pick...as long as you align with something thereby exacerbating the force of separation.

My advice, if I had any, would be to be a part of everything. Do not align. Go for unity. Be a part of Av2, be as equally a great part of Mists. Equally, be a part of the world around you and take time out to visit neither forum.

The closer you get to the centre of the spinning vortex, the easier it may be.

It will be so easy to get caught up.

Love and best wishes to you all.

K :wub2:

[Boober]

Boober yes i got invited. AV2 it's at beginning. Just because not all members got invited yet does not mean that they will never be. And those that are invited can invite others.

/edit: I think you are looking from the wrong angle, that is my opinion... you see what you choose to see. It has to do with your perception.

man you dont get what i am saying, lol, its all good though. I get what you mean though, trust me i do. Lol theres no us or them, yet you got an invite imagine if you didnt. I have talked to people who, are saying things literally I guess I am not cool enough, then they say they dont care, I know they do. And that gets at me. I really dont care,lol. Like I said I am straight AV1er 4 life,lol, nevermind I dont think you are feeling what I am saying. ITs all good though. Peace , Love, And Light

[Ross H]

Boober yes i got invited. AV2 it's at beginning. Just because not all members got invited yet does not mean that they will never be. And those that are invited can invite others.

/edit: I think you are looking from the wrong angle, that is my opinion... you see what you choose to see. It has to do with your perception.

Also, we are slowly bringing in members purely because of 'ironing out bugs' we can not afford 6000+ members to all start at once due to possible tech issues.

In a few weeks all should be 'good to go' at full speed.

Ross H

[Boober]

There are 6800 odd members, we are compiling contact names, e-mail addys, ips ect, to invite, a huge job.

Again I say: there are very few members who wont be invited due to persistent unconstructive behavior as per Bill Ryans request and vision for the forum.

Please be patient, a lot of work to do!

Ross H

No man I know you have to settle stuff and get everything organized. There is alot to do. I feel ya. But if you wouldnt mind, make a list of all the AV1 only people, please. After the dust settles.

[Boober]

that's really sweet boober, the canoe is the place to be my man.

...and for those aghast at my recieving an invitation and especially those awaiting a pre invite or whatever, well, I consider it like them asking the bad fairy to cinderella's ( or was it snowhite's) christening, Either that or you just weren't BAAD enough.
Cheers boober, integrity is all, some just don't get mine.


lol, the canoe is where I live, always!

[Kulapops]

man you dont get what i am saying, lol, its all good though. I get what you mean though, trust me i do. Lol theres no us or them, yet you got an invite imagine if you didnt. I have talked to people who, are saying things literally I guess I am not cool enough, then they say they dont care, I know they do. And that gets at me. I really dont care,lol. Like I said I am straight AV1er 4 life,lol, nevermind I dont think you are feeling what I am saying. ITs all good though. Peace , Love, And Light

I get what you are saying too, Boober.

But if someone has something and I don't, is the world wrong?

From the millions of actions and influences that act upon us every second of our lives, how is it possible to know what is right for us and what is not?

Potentially, being banned from a site could be the best thing that ever happened to someone, from an objective external perspective further down the line. They might go out to the park instead of sitting at a computer and meet the person of their dreams :wub2:

I'm sure there are a few of us here who weren't the first to be picked at sides for football.

We all know how that feels. But feelings can be fuelled by the ego, that thinks it understands our world perfectly. And it does to an extent, and it also doesn't.

There are going to be more causes to fight for than just Wonka tickets at Avalon soon... this is going to spread like wildfire.

So hang on to your hats. Know who you are, and know why you are aligning yourself with something.

[Kra]

yet you got an invite imagine if you didnt. I have talked to people who, are saying things literally I guess I am not cool enough, then they say they dont care, I know they do. And that gets at me. I really dont care,lol. Like I said I am straight

I don't want you to remain with the impression that i got invited and i don't care about the rest of the people that did not. I did not expected to be invited i didn't even know the forum is up... i'm glad i have been invited but i don't feel more special than the others here, i'm waiting for them. I've been around avalon since its beginnings... i had another username to which i lost the mail and pass so recently i made this one. Over time i've attached to some members feeling that i know them, although they don't know me that good... i feel that i know them. I see avalon as a family... and that is my possition in this matter.

[gita]

I get what you are saying too, Boober.

But if someone has something and I don't, is the world wrong?

From the millions of actions and influences that act upon us every second of our lives, how is it possible to know what is right for us and what is not?

Potentially, being banned from a site could be the best thing that ever happened to someone, from an objective external perspective further down the line. They might go out to the park instead of sitting at a computer and meet the person of their dreams :wub2:

I'm sure there are a few of us here who weren't the first to be picked at sides for football.

We all know how that feels. But feelings can be fuelled by the ego, that thinks it understands our world perfectly. And it does to an extent, and it also doesn't.

There are going to be more causes to fight for than just Wonka tickets at Avalon soon... this is going to spread like wildfire.

So hang on to your hats. Know who you are, and know why you are aligning yourself with something.

Wise words Kula. That's why you are so lovable. xxx:wub2:

[Boober]

I get what you are saying too, Boober.

But if someone has something and I don't, is the world wrong?

From the millions of actions and influences that act upon us every second of our lives, how is it possible to know what is right for us and what is not?

Potentially, being banned from a site could be the best thing that ever happened to someone, from an objective external perspective further down the line. They might go out to the park instead of sitting at a computer and meet the person of their dreams :wub2:

I'm sure there are a few of us here who weren't the first to be picked at sides for football.

We all know how that feels. But feelings can be fuelled by the ego, that thinks it understands our world perfectly. And it does to an extent, and it also doesn't.

There are going to be more causes to fight for than just Wonka tickets at Avalon soon... this is going to spread like wildfire.

So hang on to your hats. Know who you are, and know why you are aligning yourself with something.

Ok man , I think I am a little off center, cause I am not feeling your post at all, but anyway. I think it will be all good after everyone who is waiting for there invite gets it. lol I am getting pms, which I wont read btw, if i dont know you, talk to me out in the open, unless you really cant, in that case i wont respond for a while lol. I know this happened cause of all the drama, but I see some people taking advantage of this little bit of power they got, even if they are sincere they are still using language that is forcing people to wonder why they didnt get invited. Hopefully after the dust settles it will be all good. But if I see people ,even if they are going to get an invite, question themselves and why they didnt get in, more posts like this will pop up, sorry cant help it.

[swordsmith]

no offense boober, but hope it's a BIG canoe. Kula very relevant point of view. gotta cake for that?

[Boober]

no offense boober, but hope it's a BIG canoe. Kula very relevant point of view. gotta cake for that?

no offense taken cause idk know what you mean,lol. All I mean was that I roll with the underdogs, the people who are the outcasts, especially the ones who are outcasts in a group of outcasts. no offense to you btw, its late as heck right now, and I am still up cause I gots stuff to do. lol thus Im not 100%

[Boober]

I don't want you to remain with the impression that i got invited and i don't care about the rest of the people that did not. I did not expected to be invited i didn't even know the forum is up... i'm glad i have been invited but i don't feel more special than the others here, i'm waiting for them. I've been around avalon since its beginnings... i had another username to which i lost the mail and pass so recently i made this one. Over time i've attached to some members feeling that i know them, although they don't know me that good... i feel that i know them. I see avalon as a family... and that is my possition in this matter.

cool, you should have said that earlier man. Me too bro I was here back in the day as well, with a different name , who were you? lol, I was SoulSuspect.

[Kra]

cool, you should have said that earlier man. Me too bro I was here back in the day as well, with a different name , who were you? lol, I was SoulSuspect.

I prefer not to say as i consider this to be irrelevant. And because i have associated "time periods" with that virtual name and much have changed since. I needed a change and my virtual name reflects the change somehow.

[Kulapops]

Well I was going to start ANOTHER thread about the two forums Swordsmith entitled 'Have your cake and eat it!' But I relented :wink2:

All that matters is this moment, and the interactions we are havnig in this moment. You are all Kool with me.. Swordsmith, Boober, Kra, Gita.

And I don't have the answers any more than the next person.

As in, from Life of Brian

Brian: " You're all individuals !!!! "

Crowd: " Yes !!! We're all individuals !!!"

Lone Man: " I'm not. "

Brian " You don't need me or anyone else to tell you what to do...."

But what I'm noticing... did anyone see my 'Elephant in the room' post ? on the beat the dead horse thread ? ... is that there is an energy out there, it's like a clock pulse.. and it will cause you to dance to its tune. It wants duality... it wants stances.

My guess is that that is where we have to go to before unity. Extreme opposites. But if we're not careful, we will get drawn into the examples all around us.

Did B&K want to fall out ? Did the Mods ? Do the Members ?

No, I don't believe so. We're ALL good people, looking for a way.

I don't know what will happen, what the new forum will be like, who will be invited. these are all mysteries. So I'm going to try and not have an opinion about it. Not align with it.

Just be.

Just love.

The thing I can't seem to do is tear myself away...
Arrrghhghhghghgh... someone get me bl**dy hands away from this computer....

But we're all learning lessons, just different ones. That's why you're all so Kool... and why we will be seeing LOTS more of each other.

Don't worry 'bout your ticket Boober. I bet it's a cert. And if it ain't, I'll see you in the mists. Don't be afraid that you or anyone won't be picked.

Love picks us all. :wub2:

K

[Boober]

i prefer not to say as i consider this to be irrelevant. And because i have associated "time periods" with that virtual name and much have changed since. I needed a change and my virtual name reflects the change somehow.

o k

[Boober]

Just one more thing to add, if your serious , like really serious about making an AV2 that really contributes, you prob. shouldnt invite people who just are happy to be here. Cause honestly they dont contribute research. If you want people only with substance make that clear. Because people need to know who gets to go to AV2 and why, all I have heard is, "were not playing favorites" "its only for people who contribute", yall need to define contribute. Seriously. You need to define what AV2 is really about, not just some vague statment or use of terms. Cause maybe some people shouldnt get invited and it will make them sad, but they prob. shouldnt get an invite. Make that tough decision and dont invite them. But know I will be here with my AV1ers good or bad. I aint running from the negative threads either, I just do what I always do. Ignore them! lol , But i have a feeling there is definitely more to this whole thing than meets the eye. Peace Out and lets be real, a big part of this is favorites thats the reality of the invite, your favorite contributer, duh. lol im over it guys my bad, for now, lol

[Kulapops]

[QUOTE=Boober;258493]Just one more thing to add, if your serious , like really serious about making an AV2 that really contributes, you prob. shouldnt invite people who just are happy to be here. Cause honestly they dont contribute research. If you want people only with substance make that clear. Because people need to know who gets to go to AV2 and why, all I have heard is, "were not playing favorites" "its only for people who contribute", yall need to define contribute. Seriously. You need to define what AV2 is really about, not just some vague statment or use of terms. Cause maybe some people shouldnt get invited and it will make them sad, but they prob. shouldnt get an invite. Make that tough decision and dont invite them. But know I will be here with my AV1ers good or bad. I aint running from the negative threads either, I just do what I always do. Ignore them! lol , But i have a feeling there is definitely more to this whole thing than meets the eye. Peace Out and lets be real, a big part of this is favorites thats the reality of the invite, your favorite contributer, duh. lol im over it guys my bad, for now, lol[/QUOTE

You're not tightening the entry rules now Boober ? lol I thought we'd agreed that no one should be excluded ? :original:

I say... Let 'em in :original:

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[Boober]

lol, no , anyone in AV2 is excluded buddy. But I think if they are wanting to how do the kids say it , "keep it real", then they should do that "keep it real", cause go for it. I dont want any part in it. Cause the way it was created was a joke, but thats just me. The process is a s s backwards I know people who have been here forever, and they didnt get an invite (yet) but anyway, then I meet these kids who are here for two seconds and they already got asked. Then these people have the nerve to say send an email and ask. What, for real? oh wait you mean everyone should go to AV2, my fault, but there are some creepers who are just here to take this place down. But I have a feeling they will make it into AV2 anyway.lol, and then AV3 will come around , sadly, for me, that would be awesome on so many levels. See this whole thing wasnt really about this drama thread. which is cool, i just hope everyone who deserves an invite gets one. And if they dont. Again member you didnt get the invite! thus your good peoples! sorry i keep going off on a tangent. my bad

[JesterTerrestrial]

sorry i keep going off on a tangent. my bad

YOU ARE NOT SORRY!!! THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL ATTACK!!!

YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A TROLL!!!

and

YOU ARE DISTRACTING FROM THE ORIGINAL TOPIC OF THIS POST!!!

WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR!!!

YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM!!!

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[Boober]

YOU ARE NOT SORRY!!! THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL ATTACK!!!

YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A TROLL!!!

and

YOU ARE DISTRACTING FROM THE ORIGINAL TOPIC OF THIS POST!!!

WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR!!!

YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM!!!

1

lol, your awesome man. Naw , I realize people just dont get what I am saying. So I will chill. and btw your statement is rather ironic.

Peace Love and Light

[JesterTerrestrial]

lol, your awesome man. Naw , I realize people just dont get what I am saying. So I will chill. and btw your statement is rather ironic.

Peace Love and Light


Did you log back in just to reply to this!!! YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE!!!

NOBODY GETS IT BECAUSE YOUR NOT SAYING ANYTHING OF IMPORTANCE!!!

YOU ARE DISTRACTING FROM THE ORIGINAL POST!!! STILL!!!

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT OUR SPIRITUAL ISLAND BEING OVER RUN WITH TROLLS AND AGENTS!!!

PEOPLE RECRUITING FOR OTHER FORUMS!!!

JTEYE!!!

Whats this all about? This is the absolute height of irony, a website revolving around truth, and the coming together of mature adults in order to bring down those who rule by division is being "divided and conquered".. The very site itself is under threat against the will of the majority, because of a few who are in a position to make "difficult" decisions.

Ive not had the time to be around lately, so in that light i'm not to sure whats going on, but if its what it looks like then its an utter disgrace.

Hey man, well im pretty sure that the first step in clearing this place up would be for people to realise that this forum is currently RIFE with disinformation agents who have made their way through the cracks at an opportune moment to reinforce the state of disharmony.

People would want to start speaking up before this forum becomes a carbon copy of the real world.

[Boober]

Did you log back in just to reply to this!!! YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE!!!

NOBODY GETS IT BECAUSE YOUR NOT SAYING ANYTHING OF IMPORTANCE!!!

YOU ARE DISTRACTING FROM THE ORIGINAL POST!!! STILL!!!

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT OUR SPIRITUAL ISLAND BEING OVER RUN WITH TROLLS AND AGENTS!!!

PEOPLE RECRUITING FOR OTHER FORUMS!!!

JTEYE!!!

I feel ya man and after reading this I kind of do feel that someone split this forum on purpose in order just to divide it up for whatever reason. Which just goes to show you avalon was not really about what they said they were. It makes sense, either that or something happened behind the scenes that scared the daylights out of bill and kerry , thus they started an AV2. Did i log back on just to post? lol are you looking to see if I am logged on or off? lol , i hope not man, but if you are thats pretty awesome. Bro I log on and off a hundred times. Its called procrastination. But again you didnt get what I was saying, its cool though. I think your quotes ring true. lol i didnt quote your other quotes, but in relation to trying to say I am not saying anything of importance, again are you trying to be ironic, Cause I cant figure out if you are for real or not? or if this is just your character? Bc remember this JT there is only one Boober! So dont try and bite my style, and if you reply to this , in advance quit being a troll , lol you might be my new hero Jester. And for the dude below me, i cant tell if your being serious or trying to make fun of Boober, either way I like the direction your going.

[orthodoxymoron]

Let Boober be Boober. This is a part of free-speech. I object to most censorship. I object to Avalon 2...and I think something screwy is going on. But Let Boober be Boober. Give Boober a Chance. Even if someone is purposely trying to sabotage the forum...it provides us with an opportunity to deal with that sort of a challenge...just like the bizzare abraxasinas thread provided us with an opportunity to attempt to deal with something unlike most of us had ever experienced...or ever will experience in the future. Obviously...there are limits to free-speech...but choose your battles wisely. Being annoying and stupid should not cause someone to be shut-down. I'm frankly havin a laugh! :lol3: Go Boober! :lol3:

[Kristoffer]

YOU ARE NOT SORRY!!! THIS IS AN INTENTIONAL ATTACK!!!

YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A TROLL!!!

and

YOU ARE DISTRACTING FROM THE ORIGINAL TOPIC OF THIS POST!!!

WHO ARE YOU WORKING FOR!!!

YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM!!!

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Dude right next to the letter A is a button called "caps lock" if you press that one you dont need to look like a complete ass, and not being taken as a complete mongoloid. Im down with ur views man but hey ... take a little chillpill and stay calm mate.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Dude right next to the letter A is a button called "caps lock" if you press that one you dont need to look like a complete ass, and not being taken as a complete mongoloid. Im down with ur views man but hey ... take a little chillpill and stay calm mate.

ITS BROKEN ON!!! :lmfao:

JUST LIKE THE INTEGRITY OF THE TEAM!!!

OK FINE :rasta:

in·teg·ri·ty

adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.
2.
the state of being whole, entire, or undiminished: to preserve the integrity of the empire.
3.
a sound, unimpaired, or perfect condition: the integrity of a ship's hull.

[burgundia]

lol, no , anyone in AV2 is excluded buddy. But I think if they are wanting to how do the kids say it , "keep it real", then they should do that "keep it real", cause go for it. I dont want any part in it. Cause the way it was created was a joke, but thats just me. The process is a s s backwards I know people who have been here forever, and they didnt get an invite (yet) but anyway, then I meet these kids who are here for two seconds and they already got asked. Then these people have the nerve to say send an email and ask. What, for real? oh wait you mean everyone should go to AV2, my fault, but there are some creepers who are just here to take this place down. But I have a feeling they will make it into AV2 anyway.lol, and then AV3 will come around , sadly, for me, that would be awesome on so many levels. See this whole thing wasnt really about this drama thread. which is cool, i just hope everyone who deserves an invite gets one. And if they dont. Again member you didnt get the invite! thus your good peoples! sorry i keep going off on a tangent. my bad

:thumb_yello:

[Kulapops]

I honestly think JT is being ironic Boober.

My kind of humour !

The caps lock is working for me... keep it going JT :original:

Who's 'the dude below me' ? Me Boober ?

I don't think you're rambling. You're being honest, with yourself, and with everyone. So is JT. Integrity indeed.

All I can say is, that if we are feeling confused, that's good.

If someone thinks they know where everything is... that's scary.

No one gives us, or allows us anything really, we're sovereign beings.

So I agree, no need to ask for an invite, wait for one. Who knows what's going on, really ?

It makes me laugh, that after 18 months of internet viewing, I'm no more clued up about what reality is than I was then. No surprises that we should have the same impossibility of knowing what's really going on at Avalon either.

The choice is the same. You can choose to believe the best or the worst. Course, news is what HApPENS to you...(my saying) not what happens to someone else. So if something has happened to you, then fine, you need to act on it. But as for speculation about what is happening to other people...and why people do or did what they do did done...

You might just as well believe in fairies if you like. Or Aliens. Or david Icke..

I reckon we have just as much proof.

So that ain't a war that can be won in my opinion, and it ain't worth being uncomfortable with it.

All we can be sure of is NoW...This is it. This is Now...

What are we going to do with this here second ?

That's the challenge.

K

[swordsmith]

ya see , here's the real irony on this , whoda thunk boober would be my new Avaloony hero?
since you have warned us boob that you wont be opening any private messages I'm going to have to out my intended one right here (:shocked:) ( is this a pre crime in the making, should I GOVERN myself?) nawwww...
Ok boober, my private message to you is :
I admit to being a teeny bit hurt when you did not comment on my response when I said you could join my cult. And heres where the irony is, Boober I could well imagine joining any cult of the lone canoeist. and WHY?
( ok this bit is not private )
because for me, Boober cristalized exactly what is wrong about whats been going down on here, lack of heart for the honestly hurting because they truly feel they may be left behind. Boober I wondered if you were toying with our feelings and lacked complete sincerity, but the beauty of it is, it matters not, this is what you brought to the table and I am happy to digest the offering. Mainly because it was sweet to me.
The other issues I'm going to talk about somewhere else.
And JT I will admit to a slight confusion regarding your posts, but hey I like it ... I think.

[Jack]

ya see , here's the real irony on this , whoda thunk boober would be my new Avaloony hero?
since you have warned us boob that you wont be opening any private messages I'm going to have to out my intended one right here (:shocked:) ( is this a pre crime in the making, should I GOVERN myself?) nawwww...
Ok boober, my private message to you is :
I admit to being a teeny bit hurt when you did not comment on my response when I said you could join my cult. And heres where the irony is, Boober I could well imagine joining any cult of the lone canoeist. and WHY?
( ok this bit is not private )
because for me, Boober cristalized exactly what is wrong about whats been going down on here, lack of heart for the honestly hurting because they truly feel they may be left behind. Boober I wondered if you were toying with our feelings and lacked complete sincerity, but the beauty of it is, it matters not, this is what you brought to the table and I am happy to digest the offering. Mainly because it was sweet to me.
The other issues I'm going to talk about somewhere else.
And JT I will admit to a slight confusion regarding your posts, but hey I like it ... I think.


You my friend, are a walking contradiction.

[swordsmith]

thank you very much! ( but I am sitting on my butt right now) you might actually like me in real life, too! :wink2:

[burgundia]

thank you very much! ( but I am sitting on my butt right now) you might actually like me in real life, too! :wink2:

more comfortable than on the fence?:lmfao:

[swordsmith]

way better than on the fence, my butt don't crease that way.:das:

[Jack]

thank you very much! ( but I am sitting on my butt right now) you might actually like me in real life, too! :wink2:

So in your gratitude you are comfortable with people knowing that your actions are not in alignment with your words?


This is a serious forum, for serious discussion, about serious topics, im suprised at the level of immaturity that seems to be accepted here, ie ; were not down at the pub having a laugh. There are peoples lives at stake, to which you've displayed an almost disgusting level of apathy by making a complete mockery of discussions that are paramount to those that are being affected.

[swordsmith]

dont worry so much Jack, my actions are in complete alignment for me, forget about me Jack, and enjoy your life , hey why not even post what you are burning to let us know you know, why let ME stop you, let it go Jack.

[Dantheman62]

Hey Jack.....you and I go way back so I'll just say this.....don't even bother anymore!
Use your energy and intelligence where you know it will do some good!

Peace!

[Clarityofawareness]

If I'm wrong concerning the following, please do ignore it. Although so many AV1 members already used the dreaded forum ignore button on me. I still post in AV1 cause I believe we all can change for the betterment of us, our world and beyond!

Isn't it the a legend concerning a somewhat secret society who chooses which people can join their wanna be elite race?

And when they do choose someone/candidate, one of their so called secret methods of informing the new lucky candidate is by walking up from behind that person and "tapping" them on the shoulder maybe?

So my question, just out of curiosity, who here has been tapped for AV2 membership? Oh come on, don't be so shy! Be honest! To hide such info. any longer may make others think or believe the wrong things concerning AV2 & it's elite (kidding) members.

Don't get me wrong because we are all being of change. So change is good cause it's all we are being. The rest of it all (your whole reality experience) is however you want to define it.

Kevin

[Dantheman62]

I got the invite to AV2 a few days ago. Doesn't mean I'm going though! LOL

[bushycat]

I got the invite to AV2 a few days ago. Doesn't mean I'm going though! LOL

We don't have to follow anyone or not. But also I wouldn't want anyone following me, especially not by any persuasion. Go your path absolutely with your heart and you'll be right wherever you go or don't go.
Whatever we each contribute to this Consciousness is vital, and we get to do it how we do best. Oliver calls it Freedom.

Love All The Way,
Bushycat

[Clarityofawareness]

If and ONLY IF there are possibly AV1 members being tapped for AV2 membership. Yes, that's means that I would like to see more than just words concerning such membership. Show me who invited you and why you were invited or why you think that you were invited. Then again, what's the point??

Then again, I wonder what kind of qualifications AV2 candidates must have in order to be tapped for AV2 membership. Are the Av2 candidates seen as those (by the AV2 forum) who do not question authority and go with the flow of the AV2 majority belief system? What ever such AV2 beliefs maybe, we ALL have our own beliefs that we firmly stand by. So I am not saying that AV2 should be shammed by us non-tapped AV2 wanna be's (kidding).

The unspoken fact is that whom ever owns any forum is also whom ever decides what that forum can and can not be. this especially includes any and all time/energy that you put into any forum. So if the forum owner(s) want to remove your posts/threads, then so they can without any talking to anyone about it all. If the forum owners decide to try and make lots and lots of money from their forum, then they can do that as well. Especially when so many of the past posts/threads (from various forum members) of that forum are the reason why that forum is not only so popular now, but that such popularity could be a wonderful cash flow for the forum owner(s). I guess there is nothing wrong with making money in this day and age, so long as it's legal.

I dunno, I guess the best way to settle it all would be for everyone here to start their own forums and see how long such internet gossip posting survives and which forums shut down within a week to a few months due to what ever. What you think?

Kevin

[Dood]

The unspoken fact is that whom ever owns any forum is also whom ever decides what that forum can and can not be. this especially includes any and all time/energy that you put into any forum. So if the forum owner(s) want to remove your posts/threads, then so they can without any talking to anyone about it all.

This is very true. Like it or not there is NO 'Freedom of Speech' on ANY forum that I have seen.
Even ones that say they have Freedom of Speech it is in fact 'Restricted Speech'.

I find people are more concerned about Freedom of Speech on forums when in fact they need to care about this 'right' within our own counties.
We are losing (or have already lost) our supposedly Protected Right to Freedom of Speech.
Our 'Real Rights' to me are more important then what a forum will tell me what I can or cannot say.
I would suggest putting energy toward REAL Freedom of Speech in regards to the counties we live in then worry about what we can or cannot say on a forum.
Most of it is (Behavior Wise) common sense on a forum. People do not have to be taught/told how to act.
However, some make a choice to fire off snarky comments at one another and then try to follow up that it was 'just their opinion' or their 'freedom of speech' to justify their behavior.
When in fact it is just EGO talking.
Nothing wrong with sarcasm in my opinion if the person using it is not out to embarrass/hurt/attack/etc someone else.
Then on the other hand people need to have thicker skins...or...simply ignore someone when they are being trolled.

Never Feed the Troll! :trumpet:

[dddanieljjjamesss]

without avalon i will have to rely simply on my own faculties for obtaining information

even though many of you have given me many helpful metaphors and windows through which to look and see things in a new way

honestly, its for the best. if you don't make it to AV2, and you would still like someone to talk to, i welcome everyone to contact me via email, skype, or AIM.

consider that this "disbandment" may possibly have more of a uniting force than all of us staying here, or moving on together.

if we can continue to network, there is not much of an issue

(i have become very "addicted" to avalon since I have joined - not good for school work and other responsibilities, but my personal issues aside - do we need to be here, as opposed to any other place?)


edit: minor clarifications/grammar

[Jack]

Hey Jack.....you and I go way back so I'll just say this.....don't even bother anymore!
Use your energy and intelligence where you know it will do some good!

Peace!


Hey man good to see you!

Yeah your right, the guy just got me at a .. moment in my life. A little bit of venting does no one any harm, and sometimes alerts people to the big pile of sh:t thats sitting on the sitting room floor.

Gotta get round to sharing that bottle o Jack'd's man, it would be history in the making!

[JesterTerrestrial]

I am not laughing.

I wish I was able to laugh!

But what has happened is un-acceptable!

But it seems like many just don't care!

Tired of standing for truth!!! Just bend over and take it!!!

NO THANK YOU!!! PEACE JT!

[JesterTerrestrial]

so here we are...

your avalon 2 is already running...

by invitation only...i was told i was invited...i have not received anything...

many members have already jumped ship...

others are swimming for shore...

you have split this community up...

What i'm not on the guest list anymore seeing as how I am standing for truth???

Hmmmmm....

SO,,,anyone else think that

SOMETHINGS GOING ON!!!

[Ross H]

so here we are...

your avalon 2 is already running...

by invitation only...i was told i was invited...i have not received anything...

many members have already jumped ship...

others are swimming for shore...

you have split this community up...

What i'm not on the guest list anymore seeing as how I am standing for truth???

Hmmmmm....

SO,,,anyone else think that

SOMETHINGS GOING ON!!!


JT, this is the 4th time I have posted this...

There are 6800 odd members, we are compiling contact names, e-mail addys, ips ect, to invite, a huge job.

Again I say: there are very few members who wont be invited due to persistent unconstructive behavior as per Bill Ryans request and vision for the forum.

Please be patient, a lot of work to do!

Also, we are slowly bringing on members to help 'iron out any bugs' , now, you can imagine 6000+ members all registering at once?

Plz mate, think about it and stop with the 'somethings going on' routine.

I am looking forward to seeing you there! I have already said this to you yet you choose to ignore what I say?

Sincerely

Ross H

[JesterTerrestrial]

THE MERLIN IS LEAVING THE ISLAND!!!

PEACE!!! UNTIL WE GET IT!!! EVEN @ AVALON!!!

JESTERTERRESTRIAL - MA'AT

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[Fredkc]

Yesterday morning: 18 members, and about 20 posts.

As of this evening:
Project Avalon 2 Community Forum Statistics:
Threads: 161
Posts: 474
Members:114

So many, making so much noise using
* No information,
* Bad information,
* Whatever comes into their head.

Ross spoke the truth, as best as I know it. The truth is enough.

Covering it up with a bunch of silly stuff won't change it, either.

[Ross H]

Yesterday morning: 18 members, and about 20 posts.

As of this evening:
Project Avalon 2 Community Forum Statistics:
Threads: 161
Posts: 474
Members:114

"...and thanks for all the fish."

Thanks Fred,

and 2moro there will many more and then an exponential surge in members as we send out all the invites...

[JesterTerrestrial]

JT, this is the 4th time I have posted this...

There are 6800 odd members, we are compiling contact names, e-mail addys, ips ect, to invite, a huge job.

Again I say: there are very few members who wont be invited due to persistent unconstructive behavior as per Bill Ryans request and vision for the forum.

Please be patient, a lot of work to do!

Also, we are slowly bringing on members to help 'iron out any bugs' , now, you can imagine 6000+ members all registering at once?

Plz mate, think about it and stop with the 'somethings going on' routine.

I am looking forward to seeing you there! I have already said this to you yet you choose to ignore what I say?

Sincerely

Ross H

Hi Ross,

I would not really say its a routine. I'm telling you...that the way things are going down is not normal. The problems is with INTEGRITY!!!

And now I have been around this place looking like a total lunatic trying to find out what the heck happened! What is happening! So that we can move into the future as a team!!! And you along with the rest of the members can do what ever you want.

So far the response from the team has been to just stfu and move on!

well how are we going to be the leaders of new peaceful earth if we can not even have trust amongst ourselves. I am mystified! Why well i just can not help myself! Now perhaps there is no problem and I am just an over the top ironic fool. I do not think so.

I am all for moving ahead! I got emails asking me IS IT GO TIME YET!!!

but I say no! What happens if it comes time again ... are you gonna get misted on the spot!!! What about anyone else!!! Even Swanny is afarid to talk...and he has had lots to say in the past.

So let this be a lesson to you all.

There is a thread with a VOTE!!! About keeping it the same!!!

Yet there has been no response!!!

LAUNCHING AVALON 2 SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPECIAL!!!

MAGICAL!!!

IT IS NOT!!!

ITS LIKE A FORCED MICROSOFT UPGRADE!!!

The old forum along with some friends have been hung out to dry!

Don't like it!!! POOF!!!

DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER POOF!!!

As I said. i do not have all the answers. Just a lot of visions!

I got 5000+ posts here...some of them I am not proud of!

Many of them are totally flippin awesome

Yet I will not just go on until I know that the team has learned from this, as jack said, utter disgrace and comes up with a system so it can not happen again.

Now i understand that trolls and agents are a problem.

I have given enough of them the beat down!!! I do not want to go on about this forever...this is the worst I have felt in years! Correct me if I am wrong but it dose not appear that we have learned anything from this yet!

That is all i have to say...for now. And i just had to say it.

Peace and with Respect

For the love of Avalon and all her friends!!!

[raulduke]

this forum is currently RIFE with disinformation agents.



there are very few members who wont be invited due to persistent unconstructive behavior

Umm, so which is it? Is the forum "RIFE with disinfo agents" or are there "very few"?


think about it and stop with the 'somethings going on' routine.


That's the problem Ross, I have thought about it and read as much as I could, really I have tried to be as objective as possible, but it still smells a bit fishy and I still have questions.

Here's the thing I don't get (well, one of 'em), if there are only a very few members who are the problem on this forum, logistically speaking, is it not completely ridiculous to weed out the majority of 'good' members as opposed to just finding the "very few". Truly that makes no sense, also if it's only a few trouble makers, why the need to uproot and divide an entire community?

It'd be really nice if a mod would explain how the invites are being sent, because I read people saying things like members who've only been around a couple months are some of the first to get invites. Who knows, maybe they asked, maybe they knew the right peeps, whatever, the fact that mods aren't being very forthcoming about any of this stuff is only making things worse.

Can you not see that going around stating that if people want an invite, they may ask for one, is a bit prententious, like asking them to beg?

Imho, what should have happened is, if you're going to judge members before allowing them in, the mod team should either have stated exactly on what basis one is admitted, and exactly how the process would be carried out, which should be easy enough? That or deliberate on the membership in full b4 allowing anyone in.



There are peoples lives at stake, to which you've displayed an almost disgusting level of apathy by making a complete mockery of discussions that are paramount to those that are being affected.

What? I think maybe you're taking yourself too seriously. Whose lives are at stake over a forum, and how is taking a light hearted approach to being subjected to these ridiculous circumstances somehow mocking anyone who would somehow place their life on the line on a forum?

[NancyV]

Jester, judging from many of your posts (which I have greatly enjoyed) I would think you are comfortable riding the waves of chaos. To me change is a lot of fun and the fact that Avalon is changing is very exciting. I have no clue if it will be better or if I will like it as much so I must wait to let it unfold before I make any assumptions.

I voted that we NOT keep this forum the same. It has already been decided to make these changes by those who make the decisions and I support their decision. I don't think voting will mean anything in the long run because it's already well along in the changeover to the new forum, and this forum is not a democracy. It's more along the lines of a benevolent dictatorship, which is actually about the best structure a forum on the Internet can take, in my opinion. I seriously doubt they would stop the plans and halt progress on what must have been in the planning stages for a while. I suppose I voted only to try to balance out the votes that said YES to keeping things as they are. I was sure there would be more YES votes and I like being somewhat of a contrarian upon occasion.

Adapting quickly to any and all changes is good practice for travelling in other dimensions and times. Resistance is futile!! :lol3:

Nancy

[Ross H]

JT,

I fully understand your concerns, sincerely i do.

Av2 has been worked on for over 3 months, it was always going to be moved so to provide a better forum. More bandwidth and techie stuff ect...


An 'improvement' was the agenda from the begining for all the members and staff. (Bills vision) The timing of smurfs, infiltration, lead to the volunteer mods and admins trying to come together on the same page as 'how to deal with it all' (the last month in particular)... Remember when it was sub, we had very few probs, going free was always going to be a hard task to keep the forum vibrant and positive. We opened the doors and thats when the trouble started...period. Also BIll and Kerry were not in alignment with each other for over a year...this is just the cause and effect of change...I have struggled to stay neutral thru all of this, regardless of my personal opinion, sacrifice for being a mod.

Please take assurance that we have learnt a great deal of late, yes there have been mistakes...we are learning from them just like everybody else.

From the begining of PA/PC, it has been 'learn as you go' and 'hope to get it right'.

All i really know for sure is that i can only control my own being! However I believe in Bills vision and gave him my support. This is why Im still here.


Sincerely

Ross H

[no caste]

Ross H - The timing of smurfs, infiltration, lead to the volunteer mods and admins trying to come together on the same page as 'how to deal with it all' (the last month in particular)...

Hey, Ross. Who are the smurfs exactly?

[raulduke]

Please take assurance that we have learnt a great deal of late, yes there have been mistakes...we are learning from them just like everybody else.


Thank you for saying that Ross. That does help. I wonder if you could answer some of the questions from my last post?

Who are the smurfs exactly?

Exactly? Hmm thats's a tough one. They claim to be some sort of angelic aliens here to destroy the earth, and they call themselves smurfs :lol3:.

Their home is an old offshoot of pa, astrovera forum, run by an old member from here, acora.

[Carol]

JT, I think you are spot on when you claim the problem is with integrity and it starts at the top with the founders. Once again, Bill is unavailable with no welcoming message, no mission statement, or any word what-so-ever on PA2. Where is the captain of the ship?

I'm also very confused about Project Light Warrior as they want folks for games and portals.

Coming here to this forum is like watching a train wreck. Helping out at a new forum also has its challenges no matter where that forum is just because folks are so diverse and at so many levels of awareness and understanding. And the intention behind each forum is very different from each other.

I honestly don't think that Bill or Kerry were ever commited to this forum other then the idea to have it happen and help with the creative process in the design. This is clearly evident with respect to how involved they are "not." They are still very involved with what it takes to do Camelot and that really doesn't leave much time to participate on a forum as compared to the many members who do have time to be on the net.

What astonishes me is that this forum has almost 7,000 members. Where are they? What do they think? Personally, I'm sorry to see the hundreds if not thousands of hours the many, many volunteers put in to making this forum so full of great information come to an end. Some threads will be moved over to AV2 but what happens to PLW? I suspect over time all of this will eventually be sorted out but currently the hoopla and phoney rah, rah is a bit much.

If this is any example of how Bill runs his ship when he is involved heaven help AV2. The Captain needs to be there or the whole thing will eventually turn into yet another train wreck.

These almost 7,000 members have some choices to make if they wish to continue to be involved with PA at some level. They can join all of the forums and be a bit spread out. They can go with just one forum. They can just back up and drop it all together. This transition is about choices and the choice about staying here is not an option.

Let's look at this from another perspective as well. Let's look at earthchanges and ground crews who are networking. Those who accept this as a real possibility have taken steps to take care of themselves. If someone sees a tornado coming the smart thing to do is to relocate to a safe space. In this fourm's case it's a train wreck. The more aware members will have already found a safe place ~ while others will be checking out multiple other places rather then worrying about whether they will be rejected and not recieve an invitation to AV2. As I see it one can be pro-active and take control or be reactive and whine. Irrespective of how the choice plays itself, this forum is coming to an end.

Meanwhile, the many members are going through and adjustment period. Particularly the ones who were comfortable the way things were here. Personally, I've not been all that comfortable since almost day 1, yet did find things I could do here which made me happy.

It's all a matter of perspective JT. I think you understand better then most just exactly what has happened here. And let's be clear, part of the problem has absolutley nothing to do with any personality or group of personalities. It has to do with the technical difficulties related to running this particular forum. It is time for a change... it has to change if it is going to survive.

[JesterTerrestrial]

JT, I think you are spot on when you claim the problem is with integrity and it starts at the top with the founders. Once again, Bill is unavailable with no welcoming message, no mission statement, or any word what-so-ever on PA2. Where is the captain of the ship?

I'm also very confused about Project Light Warrior as they want folks for games and portals.

Coming here to this forum is like watching a train wreck. Helping out at a new forum also has its challenges no matter where that forum is just because folks are so diverse and at so many levels of awareness and understanding. And the intention behind each forum is very different from each other.

I honestly don't think that Bill or Kerry were ever commited to this forum other then the idea to have it happen and help with the creative process in the design. This is clearly evident with respect to how involved they are "not." They are still very involved with what it takes to do Camelot and that really doesn't leave much time to participate on a forum as compared to the many members who do have time to be on the net.

What astonishes me is that this forum has almost 7,000 members. Where are they? What do they think? Personally, I'm sorry to see the hundreds if not thousands of hours the many, many volunteers put in to making this forum so full of great information come to an end. Some threads will be moved over to AV2 but what happens to PLW? I suspect over time all of this will eventually be sorted out but currently the hoopla and phoney rah, rah is a bit much.

If this is any example of how Bill runs his ship when he is involved heaven help AV2. The Captain needs to be there or the whole thing will eventually turn into yet another train wreck.

These almost 7,000 members have some choices to make if they wish to continue to be involved with PA at some level. They can join all of the forums and be a bit spread out. They can go with just one forum. They can just back up and drop it all together. This transition is about choices and the choice about staying here is not an option.

Let's look at this from another perspective as well. Let's look at earthchanges and ground crews who are networking. Those who accept this as a real possibility have taken steps to take care of themselves. If someone sees a tornado coming the smart thing to do is to relocate to a safe space. In this fourm's case it's a train wreck. The more aware members will have already found a safe place ~ while others will be checking out multiple other places rather then worrying about whether they will be rejected and not recieve an invitation to AV2. As I see it one can be pro-active and take control or be reactive and whine. Irrespective of how the choice plays itself, this forum is coming to an end.

Meanwhile, the many members are going through and adjustment period. Particularly the ones who were comfortable the way things were here. Personally, I've not been all that comfortable since almost day 1, yet did find things I could do here which made me happy.

It's all a matter of perspective JT. I think you understand better then most just exactly what has happened here. And let's be clear, part of the problem has absolutley nothing to do with any personality or group of personalities. It has to do with the technical difficulties related to running this particular forum. It is time for a change... it has to change if it is going to survive.

Thank you Carol! Now were getting somewhere! :biggrin2:

Please see this page of posts. Specially For You Avalon Lovers :wub2:

ABLE TO LOVE PAGE 178 :insane:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13463&page=178

[Clarityofawareness]

If and ONLY IF there are possibly AV1 members being tapped for AV2 membership. Yes, that's means that I would like to see more than just words concerning such membership. Show me who invited you and why you were invited or why you think that you were invited. Then again, what's the point??

Then again, I wonder what kind of qualifications AV2 candidates must have in order to be tapped for AV2 membership. Are the Av2 candidates seen as those (by the AV2 forum) who do not question authority and go with the flow of the AV2 majority belief system? What ever such AV2 beliefs maybe, we ALL have our own beliefs that we firmly stand by. So I am not saying that AV2 should be shammed by us non-tapped AV2 wanna be's (kidding).

The unspoken fact is that whom ever owns any forum is also whom ever decides what that forum can and can not be. this especially includes any and all time/energy that you put into any forum. So if the forum owner(s) want to remove your posts/threads, then so they can without any talking to anyone about it all. If the forum owners decide to try and make lots and lots of money from their forum, then they can do that as well. Especially when so many of the past posts/threads (from various forum members) of that forum are the reason why that forum is not only so popular now, but that such popularity could be a wonderful cash flow for the forum owner(s). I guess there is nothing wrong with making money in this day and age, so long as it's legal.

I dunno, I guess the best way to settle it all would be for everyone here to start their own forums and see how long such internet gossip posting survives and which forums shut down within a week to a few months due to what ever. What you think?

Kevin

Okay... so for the first time in AV1 history....

(music introduction please!)


Daaunt dahnt DAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!



"The grand Clarityofawareness get's to eat his own words!! !!"



That right folks, you've read it here and now, I must eat my own words. Why do I get to eat me own words? Because I, unlike so many out there, actually will be the first to admit my own humility and ego and I do so before anyone can cut me off at the chase.



Hold on a second, needs more butter and maybe some more salt... ah yes, that's much better.

Mmmmm.. Yummy... Crunch, munch, gulp...



(belch, burp)



So why did I just eat my own words? Take a wild guess. No, really, please go ahead and guess why. I wait a few seconds before you give me your guess and read any further here. (waiting) (still waiting) Ok, did you figure it out yet?.

Apparently my prediction... well my "self prediction"...

self-pre-dic-tion 1: a prediction that one makes to her or him self and does not inform anyone else until the prediction really happened (becomes true).


...has come true.


For soon after me making such a brave comment on this thread concerning the possible tapping of AV2 candidates, I was soon tapped by a skull and bone... (kidding).

Seriously, I was tapped by someone to join the AV2 forum. I have yet to be a full fledged member of the illusive AV2. They are waiting for my blood test results to come back and see what kind of vampire generation I am... Oh, sorry, wrong reality.

Seriously though, out of respect for AV2 I remain quite concerning the AV2 forum until further notice. Oh and for the record, NOBODY, but NOBODY has asked (or forced me for that matter) to contain myself in such way. I just feel in my heart, open mind and higher self that this is the way for me to act at this point. Besides I can not communicate with any Av2 members for me membership is not completely "completed" yet.

I also believe that... no... I sense that there are those like me in AV2. I mean those who can sense, like a knowing of others. Where they understand me almost more than i do me self. This kind of psychic shtuff is right up me alley.

By the way... Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me....

For those who don't understand it's the Irish in "me" and it was recently clover day in the states and me old country (Ireland) as well. Sorry if it seems me being sarcastic. I had to have some way to blow off some steam here.

Because, as I've stated in other posts through out this whole forum, I am very sensitive to energy or the frequency of life and things. Especially to a forum that I feel so much love and oneness for (AV1 and maybe soon Av2). So as far as me being so sensitive, if you were in my shoes right now you would most likely be in a mental hospital or worse. Because you seriously could not handle what I sense throughout this forum within the last week or so. Or maybe you have survived such frequency? Either ways we all here to learn from each other.

Okay.. Now I'm sensing a possible future event.. it involves certain people possibly taking what ever I typed here and cutting it up and turning it into quotes for their own reason(s). Seems "ok" for people to do and mainly cause others do it or people do it in other forums. Yet something doesn't feel right about it. Ah, way to deep to talk about here, so never mind.

[Humble Janitor]

I got the invite to AV2 a few days ago. Doesn't mean I'm going though! LOL

No invite here. I guess I must not be popular.

[Linda]

:mfr_omg: I just read these strict guidelines and then couldn't believe the nerve to actually ask for money at the end.....wow.......:shocked:

Posting Conditions

THIS FORUM IS AGAIN AVAILABLE TO EVERY REGISTERED USER

Discussions that promote illicit drugs, pornography, foul language, violence, racial / sexual / national intolerance, hate speech, personal insults, politically subversive acts or planning, will obviously not be tolerated.

Posts that violate these guidelines will be removed and the posters membership reviewed. IP addresses are logged.

Individual posts may be subject to approval by the moderation team and may be rejected. All posts become property of Project Avalon.

These guidelines are intended to help members participate on the forum with the least possible degree of difficulties. They do not limit the authority of the moderator in any way.

This is a public forum under moderator's control and participation constitutes tacit acceptance of that authority, including the authority to accept and reject applicants and their posts.

While this may seem arbitrary, it is necessary to preserve the character and usefulness of the forum so that all may enjoy it.

By joining this forum you agree to be bound by these terms and conditions and promise to uphold the spirit of Project Avalon.

Part of our objective is to raise funds to continue operating Avalon and Project Camelot. Please consider a donation via the Paypal link.

Thank you for your time and commitment to our mission.

Moderation Team

[Helvetic]

No invite here. I guess I must not be popular.

Same here, no invitation.

[Swanny]

OK here is my rant about pa2


Seems pretty obvious to me that it's about control. You only have to read the rules to see that :thumbdown:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/announcement.php?f=62

This is my favourite
Any discussion of a product or service for sale, or of a website designed to sell products or services, is forbidden, even if you do not directly profit from such a discussion.
So if you find a site offering a good price for a water filter etc you are not allowed to share it with your friends, worst than that you can't even talk about it.
WTF is that all about????


I still don't understand the word censor. You can say bum, ass, bottom but not ar$e.

We are here because the world we are living in is going trough massive changes and yet we are being treated like little kids.

Everyone joined this forum to discuss OUR material, not to hear others showcase theirs. Members who insist on promoting / showcasing themselves, their own websites, philosophies, products, services or other unrelated teachings will be unsubscribed.
Does this mean T3J will not be allowed to talk about his dowsing?? And who is OUR???
Did Bill write this and wants us only to talk about his interviews?? Oops on the new forum I wont be able to mention his name unless it has been ok'ed

1. TARGETING INDIVIDUALS
1 Posts should not be directed to any specific individuals such as Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy or any specific witness unless a discussion has already opened. We advise you to direct your comments, questions and concerns to the group, so anyone may answer you. This promotes community discussion rather than individual confrontation.


I think who ever wrote those rules needs to rewrite them and bear in mind that the forum belongs to it's members, with out them they will have no one to control.

Hey don't worry the NFO will take care of us :zip:


Hey if anyone wants a new job there are always vacancies for traffic wardens :naughty:

[ellie]

That doesnt leave a lot for me to say then. I would be looking over posts thinking now have I crossed the t's and dotted the i's properly.

And why havent I got my invite, oh my email has been changed since I rejoined the forum. Looks like I will have to pass on what I get to Barry through someone else. Whatever.

[Swanny]

Just heard that the rules where mostly copied from David Wilcock's site so that explains why they are so rubbish :naughty:

[ellie]

Just heard that the rules where mostly copied from David Wilcock's site so that explains why they are so rubbish :naughty:

Say no more.

[raulduke]

:mfr_omg: I just read these strict guidelines

Posting Conditions

All posts become property of Project Avalon.



Yikes, is that true? I really hope not, or maybe I don't understand this correctly?

If true, could a mod please explain what that means?

What if someone has some interesting original work they would like to post for others to read and comment on, and then maybe decided to inculde their post in an article or book they may professionally write?

Would Project Avalon own that work, and as such be entitled to any profits?

[Karen]

Just heard that the rules where mostly copied from David Wilcock's site so that explains why they are so rubbish :naughty:

Actually Swanny, they are a quite common set of forum/discussion group rules. :original:

I've been hosting yahoo groups for over 10 years and studied the subject quite a bit.

A set of rules became the custom back in early days of bulletin boards because human nature is to descend into a flurry of flame wars sending insults back and forth, attempting to out do the other in the piercing quality of the insult.

Basically our main rule is to be respectful, and don't name call and send personal attacks.

It is our wish that the forum not descend into the likes of the God Like Productions (GPL) forum. The moderators would prefer to not have to take any action against anyone. We all hate doing it and discuss almost every action with each other. People have made wild exaggerations that the mods are on some power trip. I don't see that at all.

And I still quit - I'm sick of being trashed for working so hard. I'm just helping out a bit as the current situation is so overwhelming.

[Karen]

Yikes, is that true? I really hope not, or maybe I don't understand this correctly?

If true, could a mod please explain what that means?

What if someone has some interesting original work they would like to post for others to read and comment on, and then maybe decided to inculde their post in an article or book they may professionally write?

Would Project Avalon own that work, and as such be entitled to any profits?

No, no, no, - the full explanation spells out the reason:

POST OWNERSHIP

We consider posts to this public forum too important, for members to come back at a later date and remove them without good reason. Therefore this forum considers posts made to it become the property of the forum. Members who remove posts may have them restored again by the Moderators if it is considered it would affect the readability and flow of the threads they appear in.

[Karen]

No invite here. I guess I must not be popular.

It's a slow process - the ones doing it are just picking people out of their head, going through their friends lists, etc. Like Ross said, we can't have 6,000 people signing up at the same time. It will be spread out over weeks.

I went to send you an invite - but it said you already got one. I sent you a PM with the email address it went to. :original:

[Karen]

I have a question..I received a kind of invite last night...I am being asked to give my permission to be sent an invite....it is really surprising to me...did anybody have to give permission to be sent an invite?

The moderators do not understand your question. AND your constant stream of prickly posts is really getting old.

[Karen]

OK here is my rant about pa2


Seems pretty obvious to me that it's about control. You only have to read the rules to see that :thumbdown:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/announcement.php?f=62

This is my favourite

So if you find a site offering a good price for a water filter etc you are not allowed to share it with your friends, worst than that you can't even talk about it.
WTF is that all about????


I still don't understand the word censor. You can say bum, ass, bottom but not ar$e.

We are here because the world we are living in is going trough massive changes and yet we are being treated like little kids.


Does this mean T3J will not be allowed to talk about his dowsing?? And who is OUR???
Did Bill write this and wants us only to talk about his interviews?? Oops on the new forum I wont be able to mention his name unless it has been ok'ed


I think who ever wrote those rules needs to rewrite them and bear in mind that the forum belongs to it's members, with out them they will have no one to control.

Hey don't worry the NFO will take care of us :zip:


Hey if anyone wants a new job there are always vacancies for traffic wardens :naughty:

Unfortunately the way things went down as an introduction to Project Avalon 2.0 was extremely disappointing to me.

I have worked to change many of the things you complain of, and not made much progress.

There were other changes that did not get put into those guidelines, before they had to be loaded onto the forum. I will try to help with those changes tomorrow.

I did start a thread for member suggestions and it has been well used.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20583&highlight=suggestion

[Swanny]

Thanks Karen even thought you're not a proper mod it's good that you have taken time to speak to people about their worries.

:original:

I hope the pa2 is a good forum with no little Hitler's running around.
Remember mods you get karma payback for any tickets you hand out and payback time is not far off :naughty:

[Karen]

Umm, so which is it? [QUOTE]Is the forum "RIFE with disinfo agents"

That is a member opinion. That is not from a moderator.

or are there "very few"?

The current mod team I think is in general agreement there are only a few who won't be invited. Excluding "disinfo agents" is not the goal. The ones with the most "disruptive behavior" will be excluded.

That's the problem Ross, I have thought about it and read as much as I could, really I have tried to be as objective as possible, but it still smells a bit fishy and I still have questions.

Well, I personally am very very sad about the way this went down - it is not what we had planned. Things happen and people make mistakes. I will personally apologize for the mod team and give my best advice to all before making my final departure. (Yes, I still quit. Time to spend much, much less time at the computer.)

Here's the thing I don't get (well, one of 'em), if there are only a very few members who are the problem on this forum, logistically speaking, is it not completely ridiculous to weed out the majority of 'good' members as opposed to just finding the "very few". Truly that makes no sense, also if it's only a few trouble makers, why the need to uproot and divide an entire community? It's the same thing. Pick the ones to leave out. And pick the ones to include. We can't add all 6,000 on one day.

It'd be really nice if a mod would explain how the invites are being sent, because I read people saying things like members who've only been around a couple months are some of the first to get invites. Who knows, maybe they asked, maybe they knew the right peeps, whatever, the fact that mods aren't being very forthcoming about any of this stuff is only making things worse.

It's random - totally random. The mods that are left are on total overwhelm. Their organizer (me) got disgusted and walked out. They pick their own brain for a list of who they would like to invite, then they all discuss it. Have you ever tried to work with volunteers from all over the world, in different time zones and some with maybe only 1-2 hours to give each day? This is no easy task. Personally, I've been keeping a list in mod central for quite sometime now of posts/posters with really bad attitudes to see if it's a pattern or just a time or two.

Can you not see that going around stating that if people want an invite, they may ask for one, is a bit prententious, like asking them to beg?

Oh for pity sake - they are just asking for your help with a very difficult and time consuming chore. Some people on the forum are reading the craziest things into what has happened. I know you haven't been getting a lot of answers - because the mods simply don't have the time, and have not even convened with each other much to come up with an official plan.

Imho, what should have happened is, if you're going to judge members before allowing them in, the mod team should either have stated exactly on what basis one is admitted, and exactly how the process would be carried out, which should be easy enough? That or deliberate on the membership in full b4 allowing anyone in.

What shoulda been, woulda been nice, but it didn't happen, with this little volunteer team that also has to work and eat, and take care of family and sleep. The way I would say it is - on the whole are your posts constructive or destructive? Do you tear down or build up? I would guess there are about 12 people on my do not invite list.

What? I think maybe you're taking yourself too seriously. Whose lives are at stake over a forum, and how is taking a light hearted approach to being subjected to these ridiculous circumstances somehow mocking anyone who would somehow place their life on the line on a forum?

This is a comment made by Jack who is not a moderator.

[Karen]

Thanks Karen even thought you're not a proper mod it's good that you have taken time to speak to people about their worries.

:original:

I hope the pa2 is a good forum with no little Hitler's running around.
Remember mods you get karma payback for any tickets you hand out and payback time is not far off :naughty:

The last thing any of the mods want to do is moderate anyone or be a Hitler. They all wish you could all just moderate yourselves to be kind, constructive, considerate, and if you have a complaint, go ahead, just voice it in a respectful way with no name calling and no personal attacks. But if every post you make is a complaint then that is an issue.

This forum is not going to be able to please everyone all the time.

[Karen]

Same here, no invitation.

It's a slow process that could take weeks. Sorry, someone has to be the first and then number 2 and then 3. Helvetic you will be getting an invite.

[TRANCOSO]

Thanks Karen even thought you're not a proper mod it's good that you have taken time to speak to people about their worries.

:original:

I hope the pa2 is a good forum with no little Hitler's running around.
Remember mods you get karma payback for any tickets you hand out and payback time is not far off :naughty:
Spoken as a true Admiral, my friend!

[Karen]

This post deserves reposting:

Yesterday morning: 18 members, and about 20 posts.

As of this evening:
Project Avalon 2 Community Forum Statistics:
Threads: 161
Posts: 474
Members:114

So many, making so much noise using
* No information,
* Bad information,
* Whatever comes into their head.

Ross spoke the truth, as best as I know it. The truth is enough.

Covering it up with a bunch of silly stuff won't change it, either.

[Kristoffer]

My questions is pretty simple:

Why do i want to join project avalon 2.0 ? Just to be steard in beliving one thing? To agree with bill ? or what?

I might agree with bill on some things. But some is in my view just pure bs. And i cant state that i feel hes wrong cause this would upset him or what?

Is this nazigermany on the internet or is this a free forum where we can discuss our different views?

im starting to get serisoly worried.

[mudra]

Thank you Karen ,

You taking the time to answer people's questions is appreciated.

Love from me
mudra

[Karen]

My questions is pretty simple:

Why do i want to join project avalon 2.0 ? Just to be steard in beliving one thing? To agree with bill ? or what?

I might agree with bill on some things. But some is in my view just pure bs. And i cant state that i feel hes wrong cause this would upset him or what?

Is this nazigermany on the internet or is this a free forum where we can discuss our different views?

im starting to get serisoly worried.

Please stop all this over the top level of exaggerating about the changes to PA2. It will basically be the same as this forum with a few minor changes.

I said above that you can disagree as long as it is done respectfully. If you join and find yourself truly disappointed you can leave.

[burgundia]

The moderators do not understand your question. AND your constant stream of prickly posts is really getting old.

Should I send you the copy of what I received??

They might be considered prickly by some but at least I was not getting on other people's nerves as some others here, who are part of the top management..am I being negative or unconstructive here? or maybe I am just telling the truth...or maybe what has been going on here for the last several weeks called upon such prickly posts? if you just look around more closely you will notice that in other posts too...

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

Originally Posted by Karen
The moderators do not understand your question. AND your constant stream of prickly posts is really getting old.

--[ MOD EDIT Insults to other members are not permitted ]--

[Peace of mind]

I’m not sure if I understand the guidelines or if I even read them correctly. Is the new forum and its material inaccessible to people that are not registered or logged in? If so, then that is not going to sit well with many of the people I have lurking. Some are in great positions of power and do not want to be exposed until there is some undeniable evidence to these whistleblowers testimonies. ..Or, in the least provide avenues for personal research. I really don’t see the reason for change, what I do see is an agenda unfolding. If these changes are due to certain so called elite people (here) having trouble presenting their truth without proof and/or answering tough questions…that gives me reason to think they are lying or withholding information.

The truth doesn’t need to be defended; it will stick out like a sore thumb. If we want everyone to be on the same page than we all need to teach, learn from, and tolerate each other. No one is above anyone. Why would you worry about your contributions unless it is only a belief or fabrications? Why act like you care, say I love you, speak of righteousness for all, express the need for everyone to have free will and speech…but turn around and place more restrictions, just like TPTB? All that will be accomplished is a small group of like minded people placed in isolation away from reality. You have to deal with reality head on, not run and hide from it. I could be wrong, but there is just too many accusations of all kinds being tossed around here lately.


Peace

[morguana]

i am re posting this, as it quite obviously has not sunk in!

i am understanding how you all are feeling, however av2 was something we have been working on for a few months now, so it is not a reaction to all the trouble we have been having here. why av2? well we have been experiencing outages here, and have had lots of probs with glitches in the softwear etc....as you all probably know. also we have felt that a better more user friendly interface would be a good idea.

also if folks are intereseted in joining av2, please email admin and let them know that you wish to join. although its invite only, it is not a closed group, we just didnt want to go back to subs and this was an answer that we felt would work better. so please pass on this and enjoy

much love m x

edit to add this has been a huge task, and we are working around the clock to help folk as much as we can......daunting it is! we are giving as much time as our daily lives allow, we have jobs, children, and sleep to do aswell!!!! so i am asking for peeps to help us as much as poss

[Peace of mind]

thanks morguana

Peace

[morguana]

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=259075&postcount=116

thank you karen

here was how we wished to do the tranition, we invite some folk to try out new site to iron out bugs, give us feed back so that we can sort it out before opening it up to more folk. now we have been doing our best to work and help members register, collect details etc etc.

how many times do we need to say this?

now gopl, i really dont know what to say? we have had a couple of spats of 'smurfs' which we dealt with, and had mods overspilling issues on the forum, which didnt help. now we are doing the best we can, (i got to point where i was thinking of stepping down, but now feel that av2 is to be my focus, whilst this transition phase is happening) what do you want us to do? we are doing all we can! i have a young family that need my attention, and have been working here in avalon around my personal comittments, as much as i can humanly do.

jeez am so sick of this

the guidlines as karen has stated are used all over the net on forums to ensure that folk are respected and the level of posts constuctive. (anyone been to glp? well av2 is not going to be like that!)

i am not a paid disinf agent, i am a mum of 2 who feels very deeply about maintaining a place for people to go, learn, enjoy and hang out.

i really think that some peeps here need to go and enjoy some sunlight, have a walk and put things into perspective, because some are way off the scale in terms of the truth. i find meditation helps :original:

now back to cooking and being with my children

much love to you (and yes i mean it)
m x

cheers peace of mind, i some times wonder what im doing this for :tears:

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

Oops!
the second time I speak my mind and my post has been deleted...

Thank you very much !

I was not expecting less!

[JesterTerrestrial]

LETS HAVE A LAUGH!!!


well allright!!!

Please invite me to my own island but Im not going avalon 2 until I get one of those brown passports!!!

YAH KNOW WHAT I MEAN!!!

Im not just going to sit back and let the kids steer this boat off the cliff!

HELLO!!! CAN YA HEAR ME NOW!!!

WHAT THE HECK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO!!!

I'M KINDA JUST JUMPING UP AND DOWN FOR TRUTH HERE!!!

:woot_jump:

PLEASE FOLKS TRULY DO FORGIVE ME FOR MY RECENT ROUND OF POSTS IF YOU ACTUALLY STAND FOR TRUTH AND NEVER GIVE UP!!!

I CAN ACCEPT WHAT HAS HAPPENED!!! AS IT HAS OBVIOUSLY HAPPENED!!! SO NOW I START ASKING THINGS LIKE WHO WHAT WHERE WHY HOW!!! AND I DEMAND TO KNOW EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE!!! RIGHT NOW!!!

HOW YOU GONNA LIVE LIKE THAT!!!

WELL YOUR READING IT!!!

WHAT CAN I DO!!! I CANT STOP NOW!!!

:insane:

WHERE DO YOU GO FROM THERE :gathering:
:rasta:
:king:

THE FACT THAT THE FORUM HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED HAS ME CONCERNED!!! ARE THESE THE SAME SELECTION PROCESS THAT ARE GONNA BE USED TO GO TO YOUR UNDER GROUND BUNKERS!!! :no: WELL THEN I GUESS IT PROVES THAT YOU JUST CANT HANDEL MA'ATS POWER!!! YOU MAY LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR COMPLETE BASS ACKWARDS WAY OF THINKING!!!

EXCUSE ME FOR LOSING MY MIND ALL OVER MY OWN ISLAND!!! NOW AS I SAY I GOT EMAILS ASKING ME!!! IS IT TIME TO MOVE!!! WHAT CAN I DO!!! I GOT POOPY DIAPERS TO CHANGE!!! MY WIFE IS IN DIS-BELIEF OF MY MENTAL MIGHT AND MADDNESS!!! JUST LIKE A FEW FOLKS AROUND HERE!!! I GOT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN YELLOW PAPERS LAYING AROUND!!! I AM ON LOCKDOWN ALREADY!!! I DONT CARE!!! I CAN NOT MOVE AROUND MY OWN DAMN PLANET!!! I AM OBVIOUSLY OUT OF BALANCE HERE FIRENDS!!! WHAT DO YA DO!!!

AS YOU CAN SEE I AM A LOOSE CANNON!!! PEACE JTEYE!!!

:ban:

:mf_lustslow:

:boxed:

SO NOW I SAY IN RESPONSE TO MANY FOLKS ASKING ME TO STAY OR HOPING I WILL I SAY TO YOU AVALON!!!

I AM JUST ONE GUY AND YOU CAN MOVE WITHOUT ME!!!

WHEN YOU CAN ANSWER ME THIS!!! THEN I WILL CONSIDER MOVING THE TEAM!!! THE ONE WE DONT HAVE :lmfao:

FREE - DHU - M!!!

HOW WE GONNA GET IT!!!


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WHAT COLOUR IS THAT LIGHT!!! GREEN!!! :D

WHADA YA SAY!!! MAYBE!!! WELL ALLRIGHT!!!

NO LIMITS MAN!!! :D

[morguana]

gopl, there is speaking ones mind and there is being dissrespectfull towards others.

m x

[GaiaLove]

Dear "Goddess of Purple Light"

see if you can speak your mind without being insulting and swearing, perhaps then your posts wont get edited. :thumb_yello:

find the light again dear goddess

Love

[burgundia]

mod edit, we have had enough of this, that post was edited by a fellow mod, please do not continue to push the issue.
think folk need to chill, remember laws of energy.

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

I have received an infraction at Project Avalon Forum just now
This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

I think I am going to STFU...JUST IN CASE i GET MORE POINTS.

tHANK YOU VERY MUCH!

THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH....

it seems that the only ones who can speak here are celine and friends ein??

[TRANCOSO]

I think it was Fredkc who somewhere said, that we are guests at this forum.

This remark hit the nail on the head.

We all tend to forget this, but indeed we are guests, & those who 'run' & own this forum, can do with it, as they please.

They can ban, mist, (infract) & warn who- & whenever it suits them.

To those who thought Avalon was a family where they could feel save, it must come as a bitter surprise that they've made a mistake.
Some might even feel betrayed.

But looking at the amount of voters in Greybeards poll-thread, 6500 members really don't give a sh#t about what happens at/with Project Avalon. :shocked:

n.b. GOPL, I've read your post before it was 'edited'.
People who are looking for trouble usually find it.
Your post was 'not done'.

[Fredkc]

I feel like a broken record.... but once again:

This is NOT free speech!!! I pay AT&T $30/month to read this garbage!!

Here are the guidelines for a forum I helped set up about 2 years ago.
http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/post3/handy.jpg

You will see in there the words "our place". The "our" refers to both, whoever was there before you joined, and yourself, after.

They are in fact, no different from the ones you will find on 99% of the forums on the net. I just didn't bother kissing anyone's butt with fancy language.

What I do know is, a lot of decent people I enjoy talking to, aren't very available right now, because they are busting their butt to try and make something decent. And for their trouble, they are getting cr@pped on by a lot of clueless people.

To better days, and better company.
Fred

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

gopl, there is speaking ones mind and there is being dissrespectfull towards others.

m x

hello morguana!

calling someone paternalistic THORN is not exactly an insult...
is basically a quality which is not exactly very positive...
It describes very well the type of person I am talking about.

the law of energy says: that if you are a THORN, THERE IS NO PLACE WHERE TO HIDE....AND sooner or later everyone will know that you are certainly a THORN.

And for you gaialove do not come to me and tell me to find the light AGAIN....i DO NOT have a clue who has to find the light in here!... Are you projecting perhaps?

Thanks morguana and above all gaia love, which by the way is a lovely name...I hope that you can apply some of that love to yourself and others.

I love you both but I am really tired of this..
I am sorry sweethearts!

Goddess

[concerned square]

Hi morguana
I've tried to pm and email you but i don't think it got through.
You are probably very busy with av2 but i was wondering if i can have an invite?
Thanks:original:

[Céline]

Thorns on a rose, protect the blooms from insects.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Breaks my heart to hear all this here on our beloved Avalon

the saddest thing, as I look out to the once blue sky now covered in white chemtrails, I can't decide which is worse,

To know that the words I want to speak will go through someone else's perspective first and possibly edited to their way of thinking what is acceptable......and what is not....It is a way to keep same old information flowing and the new information kept at bay or not allowed at all.

I don't fault the mods or Bill or anyone...as it must be the sign of the times working within everyone.

I have not been invited to the new forum even tho I know Ross and Celine personally so I don't know if I believe the way they are choosing the people to invite is accurate from my perspective.....or maybe they do not want me there because of my past affiliation with abraxas.

I have never sent insulting remarks to anyone except one person, which I cleaned up and apologized for months ago

this is all I wanted to say, if it is edited so be it

Please do not invite me to PA2........I believe in free speech and being responsible for the words, or rather swords of Truth, that I put out in the world. I do not need babysitters or someone to gag me, I could not align with the guidelines for the new forum as it is CENSORSHIP period...in its most encompassing and suppressive form and I will not patronize this, or people being put into fear of speaking the Truth by threat of points, being misted or banned....so....no thank you...this is OLD WORLD thinking, not the new world paradigm we are going into

I do love you all as a family and respect the difficult and all consuming job the mods have.....I hope they all remember this...

You are a sovereign human being FIRST with the LABEL of mod, not the other way around

Truth

[Swanny]

I believe in free speech and being responsible for the words, or rather swords of Truth, that I put out in the world. I do not need babysitters or someone to gag me, I could not align with the guidelines for the new forum as it CENSORSHIP where people are put in fear of speaking the Truth...no thank you...this is OLD WORLD thinking, not the new world paradigm we are going into



Well said :thumb_yello:

Fred you're not allowed to say cr@pped it has been deemed a naughty word :wink2:

[TRANCOSO]

As I said earlier, without feeders, no readers. I think 99% of us know very well how to behave & don't need mods to tell them.

What I find absolutely hilarious is that Avalon 2 is supposed to be the same as Avalon 1, with just a small change.

So why bother?

[SteveX]

Thorns on a rose, protect the blooms from insects.

This is factually wrong.

[Céline]

ok animals not insects..roses are very sweet..you should try them sometimes

[bashi]

As I said earlier, without feeders, no readers. I think 99% of us know very well how to behave & don't need mods to tell them.

What I find absolutely hilarious is that Avalon 2 is supposed to be the same as Avalon 1, with just a small change.

So why bother?

So will you try to feed the fish in this stormy waterglass?

.

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

the question here is not about avalon 1 or avalon 2.
the question is the way in which the forum in being administrated and moderated.

we are supposed to create a community of like-minded individuals working towards a common goal..
As Jester nicely pointed out Freedom is something that is not being applied here and obviously I do not think that this new way is going to be transferred to the new av2.

We are the ones we have been waiting for and do not need any leaders or any 'moderators'.

It is just the opposite, we need to expand and learn.

Every single person needs to take responsability for themselves and
we should no expect others to tell us what we should or should not do.

The rules are meant to be broken.

Why do we need rules? dont you see that this does not work?

I vote for expansion not constriction and abuse.

None of us need any moderation.


Anyway, what is all this problem about insults and swear words?
Everyone in this forum swears and uses swear words in their day to day life.
What is the problem with it?

What is the problem people has in this forum about sexual energy?
It is another tabu which is not allowed to get in

What is all that fuss about newbies...or new members? They are continuosly told off because they HAVE NOT contributed ENOUGH. What is that?

Any new member is important AND UNIQUE. nO ONE HERE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OTHER.

tHOSE who post a lot seem to believe that they are more of a higher class...when that is not true.

Posting more does not mean being better....
Copying and pasting stuff from books OR THE INTERNET does not make anyone more enlightened than the others.

We are all in the same boat!

wE are JUST missing the point!

Things need to change...

[TRANCOSO]

So will you try to feed the fish in this stormy waterglass?

.
As long as I can start new threads, I'll post topics of genuine interest. That has always been my contribution to Avalon. I was granted a free membership when it was still a 'pay' forum, & I think I've paid up to the exspectation of feeding knowledge.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

all this angst over words on a forum, i wonder how people will cope when there isnt any food and money isnt worth the paper its written on. what will people be like when we are under a war footing and all decent will be quelled and you might get hauled off and tortured by the stazi. ther are FAR more imprtant things than worrying about getting in a tizz on forums looming on the horizon.

things need putting in perspective here.

[Clarityofawareness]

thorns on a rose, protect the blooms from insects.
b u m p

[SteveX]

This is factually wrong.


lol

[Céline]

glad it gave you a laugh...


are you really an adult?

just checking cuz..this is just so ****ing immature

[greybeard]

Not wishing to be inflammatory but if I could suggest a quick visit to "The ego what is it? how to transcend thread" and the "keeping Avalon warts and all thread" might help make sense of what is going on here.
Regards to all Chris

[SteveX]

glad it gave you a laugh...


are you really an adult?

just checking cuz..this is just so ****ing immature

You talking to me like that?

Get a grip or a sense of humour….gawd sake. CoA bumped your comment I bumped mine ...no big deal.

Glad you asterisked the swearing :lmfao:

[Oliver]

What some people can`t understand, specially those who are making rules, is that, generally, members here are upset because they believe somebody want to control their behavior as they are infantile. It is irritating. 99% of the people here are intelligent, educated, loving people, free minded people, and when they sense there is a possibility of control over the expression of their thoughts - they will rebel.
They are offended.
And they will express it different ways, often unpleasant ones, as it is happening on Avalon.
And this is the key problem here.
This must be clearly understand by the leaders of the forum.
Very simply.

Greetings

[JesterTerrestrial]

glad it gave you a laugh...


are you really an adult?

just checking cuz..this is just so ****ing immature

Well I will let it be known.

THAT IS WAS YOUR THREAD WITH THE LINK TO DEAD PRIME MINERSTERS JUST DOING WHAT THEY WANT LIKE THERE IS AN AGENDA TO MILITARIZE IT THAT HAS GOT ME SO WORKED UP ON TOP OF ALREADY BEING WORKED UP!!! THIS IS JUST LIKE THE POLICE STATE I ALREADY LIVE IN!!! I HAVE FLIPPN HAD IT :insane:

WITH THE TITLE WATCH ME!!!

NOW LOOK WHOS WATCHING WHO!!!

YOU WILL WATCH ME!!! I HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT I THINK!!! WHEN YOU POSTED THAT YOU HAVE FREAKED ME OUT!!! YOU HAVE ALSO MADE STATEMENTS THAT "EVERY DAY YOU REALIZE LIFE IS A PRIVILEGE"

I SAID THAT THIS SOUNDS LIKE AVALON 2. AND I TOLD YOU THAT LIFE IS NOT A PRIVILEGE!!! SHOULD AVALON 2 BE!!! IF WE CAN NOT HAVE FREEDOM ON THE FORUM AMONGST MEMBERS THEN GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR WAR TORN PLANET I'M OUT!!!

AND IF YOU MISSED THE POINT!!! GO BACK AND READ MY POSTS AGAIN!!! I THINK THEY ARE VERY CLEAR WHERE I STAND!!!

THOUGHT I WOULD JUST WATCH THIS PLACE BE DESTROYED WHEN I HELPED BUILD IT!!! THEN YOU ARE INCORRECT!!!

I DO NOT THINK THAT GETTING OUR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER IS IMMATURE!!!

AS I SAID!!! THE LAUNCH OF AVALON 2 SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAGICAL!!!

BUT IT IS NOT!!! IT IS COVERED IN MIST!!! CAN THE DAMAGE BE REPAIRED!!! YES!!!

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPECIAL!!! IT STILL CAN BE IF THE INTEGRITY IS RESTORED!!! I WONDER HOW THAT CAN BE DONE!!! THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A BIT!!! I HAVE ALREADY SAID I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS!!! I THINK THESE LEFT OVER ISSUES SHOULD BE SOLVED!!! AND A GRAND OPENING FOR THE FOURM WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THEN WHAT IS TRANSITING NOW...BECAUSE IT MAKES ME THINK...THAT SOMETHNGS GOING ON!!!


im·ma·ture
   /ˈɪməˈtʃʊər, -ˈtʊər, -ˈtyʊər, -ˈtʃɜr/ Show Spelled[im-uh-choor, -toor, -tyoor, -chur] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
not mature, ripe, developed, perfected, etc.
2.
emotionally undeveloped; juvenile; childish.
3.
Physical Geography. youthful (def. 5).
4.
Archaic. premature.


Main Entry: im·ma·ture
Pronunciation: \ˌi-mə-ˈtu̇r, -ˈtyu̇r, -ˈchu̇r\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin immaturus, from in- + maturus mature
Date: 1548

1 archaic : premature
2 a : lacking complete growth, differentiation, or development <immature fruits> <a sexually immature bird> b : having the potential capacity to attain a definitive form or state : crude, unfinished <a vigorous but immature school of art> c : exhibiting less than an expected degree of maturity <emotionally immature adults>

[JesterTerrestrial]

What some people can`t understand, specially those who are making rules, is that, generally, members here are upset because they believe somebody want to control their behavior as they are infantile. It is irritating. 99% of the people here are intelligent, educated, loving people, free minded people, and when they sense there is a possibility of control over expression of their thoughts - they will rebel.
They are offended.
And they will express it different ways, often unpleasant ones, as it is happening on Avalon.
And this is the key problem here.
This must be clearly understand by the leaders of the forum.
Very simply.

Greetings

Very Good Post Oliver! :thumb_yello:

[TRANCOSO]

What some people can`t understand, specially those who are making rules, is that, generally, members here are upset because they believe somebody want to control their behavior as they are infantile. It is irritating. 99% of the people here are intelligent, educated, loving people, free minded people, and when they sense there is a possibility of control over the expression of their thoughts - they will rebel.
They are offended.
And they will express it different ways, often unpleasant ones, as it is happening on Avalon.
And this is the key problem here.
This must be clearly understand by the leaders of the forum.
Very simply.

Greetings
:thumb_yello:

[greybeard]

What some people can`t understand, specially those who are making rules, is that, generally, members here are upset because they believe somebody want to control their behavior as they are infantile. It is irritating. 99% of the people here are intelligent, educated, loving people, free minded people, and when they sense there is a possibility of control over expression of their thoughts - they will rebel.
They are offended.
And they will express it different ways, often unpleasant ones, as it is happening on Avalon.
And this is the key problem here.
This must be clearly understand by the leaders of the forum.
Very simply.

Greetings
Agreed Oliver
If they havent got it by now they never will.
I think they have but thats a assumption on my part.

We all love this place and its a bit of shock to have to move but at least there are places to go where we wont loose contact with our friends.

Think we need to get off it so to speak.
I dont think there is anything that can be done to change the situation eventually this Avalon forum will close. I would rather that was not the case but I dont own this place not my decision, I dont pay anything. I am not left homeless or friend less.

In acceptance of the inevitable.

Regards Chris

[hobbit]

Please correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn't this project about building a better way ???
This shambles of Avalon deux is devisive and causing nothing but upset.
If another forum structure was required then fine, but transfer of all members should have just occured with this site been left as read only for a time.
The elitist atmosphere of inviting only the chosen special ones is straight out of the existing handbook that I thought we were seeking to better, not carry on and form a sort of masonic lodge.
The subscriptions fiasco was the self same, and caused destruction and bad feelings.
If I for one have to chose between this or joining deux, it will be neither, I will delete this forum totally.
Hobbit,
fed up, sick of this drama group.

[TRANCOSO]

I just read a thread by a guy named Keith, who has posted 62 times and has happily accepted his invitation for Avalon 2.

Chique! :nono:

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

PATERNALISM

definition-

Leadership style in which a male leader uses his power to control, protect, punish, and reward in return for obedience and loyalty from his employees, followers, or subordinates.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

We are the ones we have been waiting for and do not need any leaders or any 'moderators'.

Every single person needs to take responsability for themselves and
we should no expect others to tell us what we should or should not do.

None of us need any moderation.


Anyway, what is all this problem about insults and swear words?
Everyone in this forum swears and uses swear words in their day to day life.
What is the problem with it?

What is the problem people has in this forum about sexual energy?
It is another tabu which is not allowed to get in


wE are JUST missing the point!

Things need to change...

Thank you Goddess of the Purple Light!

Your words (sword) of Truth speak to my heart!

:wub2:

***Truth***

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i sent a pm to morg asking if i can get (invired?) to av2 . apparently they cant shift over people en masse? you have to ask them to get you in or wait in alphabetical order.. i jsut want to go somehwhere where i can read interesting posts and info. this is my 1st stop for info on the net. i asked for an invite on av2 incase this one get shut down.

id like to stay in conctact with people on the internet as long as possible before it gets turnoed of or down to a uselss tv type scenario.

btw i like avalon videos new intro music:smoke:

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

ELITISM

The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

Thank you Goddess of the Purple Light!

Your words (sword) of Truth speak to my heart!

:wub2:

***Truth***

thank you sweet heart :lol3::lol3::lol3:

:welcomeani::welcomeani:

:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

[Carol]

Crieky, a love fest this is not.

What would happen if the top folks just took a breath and stepped back. It's only normal folks are upset with what is happening and that they are going to process how they feel betrayed.

What is happening here goes beyond the train wreck. We all know by now this forum, from a techy viewpoint, is in deep trouble. Frankly, I've been having problems loading all three forums these past few days and it's been a bloody headache.

The whole betrayal issue is how Bill wants to control who gets into AV2 but then he's not here and subsequently he is not the one making the decisions. And then there is the whole sense of members feeling rejected from the onset because there is no list. Subsequently this whole transition is troubled from the top down. The top, because once again, Bill is not there to help steer the process. The bottom because by not know if they are going to be invited to AV2 members feel excluded whether they have been or not. It's the thought of being rejected that's painful. If you guys at the top really wanted to make this work, top down... invite everyone. Clean slate and fresh start for all. Anyone messes up gets one warning. Second time, they're booted out the door and that's the end of it.

Well, that's my tip for the day. :thumb_yello:

Cheers

[GODDESS OF PURPLE LIGHT]

GROUP

definition

any number of entities (members) considered as a unit

[GaiaLove]

Goddess needs to step away and breath. She will be able to post again in 7 days. at which time it is hoped she will return to her enlightened self.
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Bill unfortunately has been to busy to field all the questions, suggestions and demands being made by some of the members here. I thought i would put these two significant post back in the forefront. Way too many people have jumped to ridiculous and unfounded conclusions. The new forum will be much like it was for all of us here before the doors were reopened to the public last November. That move nearly destroyed this community but it did succeed in changing us. How many of you can say you have seen members here say things and act in ways you would never of imagined possible for them? How many? a LOT.
Those of you embracing the negatives right now need to sit back and look at the big picture.


Quite a lot has happened in the last 6-8 months, and members can be forgiven if they feel a little bewildered or confused. Most of this information is already available for diligent researchers, but not all of it is in the same place. One has to trawl through the Camelot index page archives and also my occasional posts (and answers) on this forum. It reads a little like a movie script. But first, I need to handle a bunch of other stuff.

All best wishes, Bill


tone3jag knows exactly what's going on..


Some of you may not want to hear this.

The kinds of happenings that are going on in the public spotlight for many public figures are a trend caused by the evolution of consciousness. The timelines are beginning to segregate into the (fear / negative / separation consciousness) subset of timelines and the (love / positive / unity consciousness) subset of timelines.

These happenings are a result of these people who once where on similar paths now veering off into these two directions. It is happening all over the place and now it is happening to PC. The timelines have not separated yet, however we are not very far off from that happening also.

My personal vibe is that I feel comfortable and peaceful with the changes that just happened and think that Project Avalon will turn out to be a great place to participate in the awakening of the sheeple across the planet.

I knew that something was not right with Kerry when I heard her say on her Radio show that it was a real possibility that synthetic beings that had been created long ago might be on there way here to invade the earth. That is Battlestar Galactica / Star Trek, Borg fantasy stuff. Not anything that should be evangelized by anyone, anytime as the truth.

I think that the best way to move on is to begin to collectively use our imaginations to visualize what can be done to make Project Avalon even better than it already is and then message Bill with our ideas. Think about what we can do, not what we can't do.


Please consider tone3's words carefully

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