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DenisSelivanov
09-18-2008, 03:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

IS THIS FOR REAL?

izz
09-18-2008, 05:12 PM
it is awful.
mind you the australians shot 10,000 horses like this a few years ago and shot 10,000 other horses in QLD in November last year.
wheres the heart ?

DenisSelivanov
09-18-2008, 10:43 PM
it is awful.
Mind you the australians shot 10,000 horses like this a few years ago and shot 10,000 other horses in qld in november last year.
Wheres the heart ?

m.i.a.

izz
09-18-2008, 11:02 PM
what does m.i,a mean ?

Anchor
09-18-2008, 11:09 PM
what does m.i,a mean ?

Usually "missing in action".

izz
09-19-2008, 01:43 PM
well sarah Palin obviously does not like animals.

In her office she sits on the skin of a grizzly bear she murdered and on her coffee table sits a crab which is massive and probably was very old before she killed it and had it mounted.

She is not heart centric towards living beings, maybe her children eho knows ?

But is she so different from all the men in power - probably not.

I sort of warm to her in a way - but i think her treatment of animals is appalling and i wonder how she views the vulnerable ?

skyking
09-19-2008, 01:49 PM
...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?

izz
09-19-2008, 01:53 PM
...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?

what are you saying here ?
can you be more specific please ?

we need leaders that are compassionate and yes it has alot to do with economics, children who starve , countries who have very little have alotto do with what we call economics..

America has in the recent past looked after her own interests and this has inadvertantly led to the suffering of many countries, and it is nt just america here but the western world in general but america is probably the worst offender.

So yes there is a higher expression of ' economics' and it is inclusive and compassionate and considerate to the vulnerable ..


is that what you were getting at ??

when you make one line comments they are just provocative ?

izz
09-19-2008, 01:55 PM
...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?

ATS has lots of people like you :naughty:

Carol
09-19-2008, 02:26 PM
This thread belongs somewhere else.

However, to give it some substantial meaning with respect to Economy and Currency take a look at this.

How much is a Million?
How much is a Billion?
How much is a Trillion?

What's the difference between a million, a billion, a trillion?

A million seconds is 12 days.

A billion seconds is 31 years.

A trillion seconds is 31,688 years. :mfr_omg:

A million minutes ago was – 1 year, 329 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes ago.

A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.

A million hours ago was in 1885.

A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.

A million dollars ago was five (5) seconds ago at the U.S. Treasury.

A billion dollars ago was late yesterday afternoon at the U.S. Treasury. :mfr_omg:

A trillion dollars is so large a number that only politicians
can use the term in conversation... probably because they
seldom think about what they are really saying. I've read that
mathematicians do not even use the term trillion!

Here is some perspective on TRILLION:

Trillion = 1,000,000,000,000.

The country has not existed for a trillion seconds.

Western civilization has not been around a trillion seconds.

One trillion seconds ago – 31,688 years – Neanderthals stalked the plains of Europe.

Million: 1,000,000
Billion: 1,000,000,000
Trillion: 1,000,000,000,000
Quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
Sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Nonillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Centillion: 1 followed by 303 zeros

izz
09-19-2008, 02:30 PM
:roll1:This thread belongs somewhere else.

However, to give it some substantial meaning with respect to Economy and Currency take a look at this.

How much is a Million?
How much is a Billion?
How much is a Trillion?

What's the difference between a million, a billion, a trillion?

A million seconds is 12 days.

A billion seconds is 31 years.

A trillion seconds is 31,688 years. :mfr_omg:

A million minutes ago was – 1 year, 329 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes ago.

A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.

A million hours ago was in 1885.

A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.

A million dollars ago was five (5) seconds ago at the U.S. Treasury.

A billion dollars ago was late yesterday afternoon at the U.S. Treasury. :mfr_omg:

A trillion dollars is so large a number that only politicians
can use the term in conversation... probably because they
seldom think about what they are really saying. I've read that
mathematicians do not even use the term trillion!

Here is some perspective on TRILLION:

Trillion = 1,000,000,000,000.

The country has not existed for a trillion seconds.

Western civilization has not been around a trillion seconds.

One trillion seconds ago – 31,688 years – Neanderthals stalked the plains of Europe.

Million: 1,000,000
Billion: 1,000,000,000
Trillion: 1,000,000,000,000
Quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
Sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Nonillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Centillion: 1 followed by 303 zeros


with respect you are right !
what has this to do with sarah Palin and her lack of compassion for other species and how a lack of compassion affects economic policy ????

izz
09-19-2008, 02:32 PM
and just as an aside money and how much it is worth is always relative - it is not rocket science :mfr_lol:

but how much is life worth ? the life of a wolf ? a grizzly bear ? a person ?

izz
09-19-2008, 02:41 PM
...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?

additionally the current model of market economies that is favoured by capitalist countries favours the few, it favours the strong, it favours the top 2 % keeping hold of 99 % of the worlds material wealth ? [ numbers might not be exact but you get the picture ]

so compassion has EVERYTHING to do with economics and economic policy !!

AFRICA .. that is a continent that is a fine example of suffering as a result of econmic policies mixed with political agenda that lack heart .. and have led to immense suffering for many ..

The middle East

India

USA V mEXICO AND SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA

The poor areas of America etc etc

SO DONT TELL me where a leaders heart is has nothing to do with economics !

arcora
09-19-2008, 02:58 PM
The Alaskan wolf population is out of control and needs reduction. If the population continues to increase it threatens other wildlife and systems.

This is not shocking or abhorrent - it is pragmatic.

izz
09-19-2008, 04:45 PM
The Alaskan wolf population is out of control and needs reduction. If the population continues to increase it threatens other wildlife and systems.

This is not shocking or abhorrent - it is pragmatic.

really !

pragmatic ?

the simple solution is always the final solution - just kill them huh ?

Actually this world belongs to all of us - non humans included.

Palin comes fro a shooting, hunting what I would describe as blood thirsty back ground - taking pleasure from killing is not not something a person with compassion and love would aspire too

the biggest threat to wildlife on the planet is man - i am pretty sure that is the same in alsaka .. what pragmatic solutions do you suggest ?

Andre
09-19-2008, 04:53 PM
I don't know, I just have the feeling that Palin is a setup for a October surprise, where one or more of the scandals haunting her selection as McCain's Vice Presidential nominee will reveal something sinister thereby ending her bid.

JSErwine
09-19-2008, 05:09 PM
This thread is just one example of how people play in to the political games.

I'm not trying to argue whether killing wolves is a good or a bad thing, but what I will argue is that you all are being distracted from the REAL issues the world is facing.

This subject matter is nothing more than slight of hand magic. Show the American people pictures of the poor cute wolves and they ooh and ahh. All the while they are emptying your pockets, preparing for WW3, allowing millions of human beings to starve.

You/we have to pick our battles and I find it hard to believe that the livelyhood of the wolf is at the top of the "To do" list for any of us. Personaly if the wolf is at the top of the list, I say let it all burn.

izz
09-19-2008, 05:15 PM
I find it hard to believe that the livelyhood of the wolf is at the top of the "To do" list for any of us. Personaly if the wolf is at the top of the list, I say let it all burn.

you are missing the point completely .. it is about compassion and love and having fair / kind and balanced leaders ..

Having said that all animals are important in my opinion including the wolf .. so it is pretty heartless the comment you have just made

JSErwine
09-19-2008, 05:27 PM
you are missing the point completely .. it is about compassion and love and having fair / kind and balanced leaders ..

Having said that all animals are important in my opinion including the wolf .. so it is pretty heartless the comment you have just made

Personaly I'm not here to warm hearts or make friends, I'm here for the truth.

The truth is, the wolf has nothing to do with the extreme problems our world is facing. So go for it, stand on your stump and preach about the wolf. In the end when the nukes are going off and theres nothing left, won't you wonder if your efforst were in vein?

izz
09-19-2008, 06:26 PM
Personaly I'm not here to warm hearts or make friends, I'm here for the truth.

The truth is, the wolf has nothing to do with the extreme problems our world is facing. So go for it, stand on your stump and preach about the wolf. In the end when the nukes are going off and theres nothing left, won't you wonder if your efforst were in vein?


that is a hard/ harsh thing to say, there is no truth without heart ....

you will never find the ' truth ' because your mind alone cant see it .. all it can see and all it will chase is smoke and mirrors .. good luck on your hunt for the truth.

The truth is that that love and compassion has everything to so with the way our world has and is manifesting and more specifically the lack of love and compassion is why we have manifested what we are currently living...

you feed he elite with your attitude whether you are aware of it or not .. they will love you

the truth is wake up and the world wakes up and I mean wake up to the truth of consciousness not conspiracy theories ..

arcora
09-19-2008, 06:45 PM
Confucious Said...

Perfect yourself.

Then perfect your family.

Then perfect your community.

JSErwine
09-19-2008, 07:01 PM
It's obvious some of you are missing my point, especialy the ones private messaging me rather than maning up and putting it here for all to see.

Like my original post says, I'm not here to argue the livelyhood of the wolf. I'm just trying to make the point that you have to focus on the most dire problems first then work down the ladder.

The fact is, we can sit here and argue about the wolf and the "heartless" killing of these animals. I'm only suggesting that the discussion be focused on problems of a grander scale and the heartless sole that considers the use of nuclear weapons, the pilfering of it's people, allowing millions to starve to death.

After these problems are solved, then lets move on to lesser evils.

Andre
09-19-2008, 07:01 PM
Confuscious Said...

Perfect yourself.

Then perfect your family.

Then perfect your community.
Simple yet true.

izz
09-19-2008, 07:12 PM
It's obvious some of you are missing my point, especialy the ones private messaging me rather than maning up and putting it here for all to see.

Like my original post says, I'm not here to argue the livelyhood of the wolf. I'm just trying to make the point that you have to focus on the most dire problems first then work down the ladder.

The fact is, we can sit here and argue about the wolf and the "heartless" killing of these animals. I'm only suggesting that the discussion be focused on problems of a grander scale and the heartless sole that considers the use of nuclear weapons, the pilfering of it's people, allowing millions to starve to death.

After these problems are solved, then lets move on to lesser evils.

well who is privately messaging you ?
for the record it is nt me ! :mfr_omg:

You are here to argue cos that is all you have been doing ! so you might as well be honest :)

If you had nt noticed this thread was about wolves .. so why are you going on about nuclear war .. start a nuke war thread :bleh:

arcora
09-19-2008, 07:18 PM
Perhaps the OP would prefer to move this discussion here:

http://www.peta.org/forums/

izz
09-19-2008, 07:21 PM
Perhaps the OP would prefer to move this discussion here:

http://www.peta.org/forums/

why should he ?

if you dont want to talk about wolves dont contribute to this thread ..

and please save us from your mocking ...:thumbdown: and ATS style

and for the record you are disrupting this thread .. you say the wolves need killing then you do not respond .. you are just being deliberately disruptive and wanting to derail this thread

izz
09-19-2008, 07:22 PM
.

arcora
09-19-2008, 07:25 PM
why should he ?

if you dont want to talk about wolves dont contribute to this thread ..

and please save us from your mocking ...:thumbdown: and ATS style


I very much admire your dedication to animal welfare.

Why are you so caustic toward your fellow humans?

izz
09-19-2008, 07:27 PM
I very much admire your dedication to animal welfare.

Why are you so caustic toward your fellow humans?

TROLLING :thumbdown: ATS STYLE

JSErwine
09-19-2008, 07:34 PM
well who is privately messaging you ?
for the record it is nt me ! :mfr_omg:

You are here to argue cos that is all you have been doing ! so you might as well be honest :)

If you had nt noticed this thread was about wolves .. so why are you going on about nuclear war .. start a nuke war thread :bleh:


Nah, was not you :)

And I'm not trying to argue, i'm just trying to help focus our energy.

The nuclear war thing is just an example of the more dire problems we humans are facing.

I personaly wonder how many of you have ever been hunting? Personaly I have, and have never fealt a closer connection to nature and mans role in nature. Flying around in a helicopter sniping off these animals is not hunting and I don't agree with it.

arcora
09-19-2008, 07:38 PM
and for the record you are disrupting this thread .. you say the wolves need killing then you do not respond .. you are just being deliberately disruptive and wanting to derail this thread

I will respond.

What would you do if a pack of wolves threatened your food supply?

What would you do if a pack of wolves threatened your family?

Wolves are not fuzzy, furry, helpless creatures as they appear in the video. They are vicious killers along the lines of lions in Africa, tigers in Asia and venomous snakes in South America. They threaten wildlife, people and entire ecosystems.

Futhermore, the video is a campaign attack ad designed to elicit the exact response that it had in you. It is manipulative and deceptive.

Now I have two suggestions for you.

If your aim is to save animals, join the PETA forums.

If your aim is to sway others politically, there are thousands of forums that will welcome you.

Of course, if your aim is to further your own knowledge and teach others of things that are more thought provoking and esoteric in nature, you're welcome to stay here and I will value your input.

izz
09-19-2008, 07:41 PM
I will respond.

What would you do if a pack of wolves threatened your food supply?

What would you do if a pack of wolves threatened your family?

Wolves are not fuzzy, furry, helpless creatures as they appear in the video. They are vicious killers along the lines of lions in Africa, tigers in Asia and venomous snakes in South America. They threaten wildlife, people and entire ecosystems.

Futhermore, the video is a campaign attack ad designed to elicit the exact response that it had in you. It is manipulative and deceptive.

Now I have two suggestions for you.

If your aim is to save animals, join the PETA forums.

If your aim is to sway others politically, there are thousands of forums that will welcome you.

Of course, if your aim is to further your own knowledge and teach others of things that are more thought provoking and esoteric in nature, you're welcome to stay here and I will value your input.

trolling thread :thumbdown:

Colin
09-19-2008, 07:51 PM
OK people..

This thread has been steered way off the original posters topic, and..it should really be in Off Topic

Although the treatment of wildlife can be disturbing that's not the direction Project Avalon is taking right now.

I'd like to refer you to Kerry's opening post in this thread if I may:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1021

Project Avalon needs to be about GROUND CREW MATTERS to do with building communities, safe places and making connections for the same.

Thanks for your co-operation :original:

izz
09-19-2008, 11:07 PM
i apologise for being rud e to arcora, i should nt have done that

JohnWdoe
09-20-2008, 03:54 AM
This to me seems like some type of animal propaganda. I must admit i do not agree one bit with whats going on but i have seen MANY animal loves actually lovers animals more then humans - not in the nice way either...

Palin is an idiot no way around it but yesh i thought the end was a little dry.

Flash
09-20-2008, 04:08 AM
Good God, people. Get a grip on reality here. She is from Alaska, you know where there are people who still like to hunt animals for food. It is a skill that everyone should know. What are you going to do when the economy crashes and all of the grocery stores are closed? Starve?


My two cents worth.

arcora
09-20-2008, 11:35 AM
... hunt animals for food. It is a skill that everyone should know. What are you going to do when the economy crashes and all of the grocery stores are closed? Starve?

Agreed.

I am going deer hunting next week for the first time in my 43 years. Fortunately deer are plentiful where I live. Although I have never desired to kill an animal, I have a wife and two small children who need to eat. Our garden grows a lot of food, but not enough to sustain us.

I would be remiss if I sat back, knowing the economy is collapsing, without doing everything in my power to make sure they are fed. If hyperinflation comes (and I hope it doesn't) we won't be able to afford grocery store food.

Maybe the govt will give out food - maybe they won't. Either way I will do everything in my power to avoid the govt teat.

We all must do whatever is necessary to survive.

Son of Eire
09-20-2008, 11:41 AM
If she would do this to animals ,she wouldn't think twice about doing it to to humans.in my experience you can judge a person by the way they treat animals

arcora
09-20-2008, 11:51 AM
If she would do this to animals ,she wouldn't think twice about doing it to to humans.in my experience you can judge a person by the way they treat animals

So, by your way of thinking, all ranchers would have felt right at home running Auschwitz?

Son of Eire
09-20-2008, 12:16 PM
So, by your way of thinking, all ranchers would have felt right at home running Auschwitz?

I don't know anyone who eats wolves ,do you ? your thinking is warped if you think I am attacking farmers I am not .I am attacking Palin

arcora
09-20-2008, 12:28 PM
I don't know anyone who eats wolves ,do you ? your thinking is warped if you think I am attacking farmers I am not .I am attacking Palin

I'm sorry. I must have misunderstood you.

When you said:

If she would do this to animals ,she wouldn't think twice about doing it to to humans.in my experience you can judge a person by the way they treat animals

I thought you meant that in your opinion people will treat other people the same way they treat animals.

Son of Eire
09-20-2008, 12:53 PM
I'm sorry. I must have misunderstood you.

When you said:



I thought you meant that in your opinion people will treat other people the same way they treat animals.

not in my opinion,in my experience people who are cruel to and do not respect animals treat people the same way.I do eat meat and will hunt to eat if I have too,but would never kill for sport .I grew up in a rural farming community.

arcora
09-20-2008, 01:03 PM
not in my opinion,in my experience people who are cruel to and do not respect animals treat people the same way.I do eat meat and will hunt to eat if I have too,but would never kill for sport .I grew up in a rural farming community.

Then you probably understand the need to eliminate large numbers of predatory animals whose population has grown out of control.

This isn't cruelty. They aren't killing these animals to feed their own bloodlust. The wolf population in Alaska has grown to a dangerous level. The reason they use planes and helicopters is because the expanse of area is so remote and so large that there aren't enough hunters to cover the ground necessary for culling the wolf population.

izz
09-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Good God, people. Get a grip on reality here. She is from Alaska, you know where there are people who still like to hunt animals for food. It is a skill that everyone should know. What are you going to do when the economy crashes and all of the grocery stores are closed? Starve?


My two cents worth.

when was the last time you ate grizzly bear and
wolf for dinner ???

please donty tell us to get a grip on reality ..

alaska is ok cos its ok to kill if youare from alaska ... really ...
:mfr_omg:

chelmostef
09-20-2008, 08:22 PM
I know exactly what you mean Izz

Sarah Palin, uncorruptable, no illuminati supossedly, the hope for America.
Avid hunter, and on the end of the extreme in religous terms.

Dont let these guys Grind us down, I will ignor all post buy the corrupters.

Stef

arcora
09-20-2008, 09:01 PM
Sarah Palin, uncorruptable, no illuminati supossedly, the hope for America.

When will people realize the deck was stacked? The only two candidates we had who were honestly concerned about the people were Kucinich and Paul. Sadly, those two were made to look like fools.

Every other option is owned by the true powers that be.

My posts above are not in defense of Palin. I know nothing about her politics and I really don't care. She's a shill for the elite. As is everyone else running.

No politician is going to save us. They will debate the inconsequential issues and make you believe they're important.

My posts in this thread are to illustrate the power of deceptive and manipulative advertising. I wanted people to see how they bought into the trap. My hope was to help people realize that by delving into the political thought process they are helping to perpetuate the sham.

Who am I voting for? NOBODY. I think the best message we can send at this point is that we don't care about the games they play anymore and we're not going to pay attention.

Bonnie
09-20-2008, 09:09 PM
If she would do this to animals ,she wouldn't think twice about doing it to to humans.in my experience you can judge a person by the way they treat animals

M. Ghandi went a little further by saying:

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.

izz
09-20-2008, 11:36 PM
he also said

Non-violence is the first article of my faith. It is also the last article of my creed.
Mahatma Gandhi

and

even if you are a minority of one the truth is the truth

we dont want leaders who are violent for sport .. do we ?

Olam
09-21-2008, 01:14 AM
"Only after the last tree has been cut down
Only after the last river has been poisoned
Only after the last fish has been caught
Only then will you find you cannot eat money"
-- Cree prophecy

-X-Spand
09-21-2008, 02:01 AM
To kill a wolf is a crime against humanity and nature! The wolf is the most intelligent species and highest entity of mans best friend! They are the balance of nature, and have always been the enemy of the illunminati, and a friend to humanity. The wolf never understood the domestication of animals it only understood the overpopulation of domestic animals, and sought to correct the imbalance in the natural enviroment.
I dont care about the political aspects of this lady, my concern is only for the wolf, this is why the illuminati hunt them they are their enemy, and a friend to humanity and a natural balance in nature. The wolf in the sothern states went from being on the endangered list to an all out hunt and kill scenario within a very short time, last spring. Has this ever happened to any other endangered species. Their must be a reason! -X-Spand

ocan
09-21-2008, 03:23 AM
ARGUMENT:

The truth is, the wolf has nothing to do with the extreme problems our world is facing. So go for it, stand on your stump and preach about the wolf. In the end when the nukes are going off and theres nothing left, won't you wonder if your efforst were in vein?

RESPONSE:

taking pleasure from killing is not not something a person with compassion and love would aspire too

AND

we need leaders that are compassionate and yes it has alot to do with economics, children who starve , countries who have very little have alotto do with what we call economics..

When the time comes when "theres nothing left" we will need compassionate people and leaders. If you or a member of your family is hurt or in dire need of help you will need the compassionate. That is why we need to build ground crews with compassionate leaders and members.

Just to remind you when the "nukes are going off" the people that are setting of the nukes are not very compassionate people they don't care about you, your family, or ... the wolves. The same people that set off the bombs are the same people that are trying to reduce the world's population by the use of disease, starvation and war.

In closing, the way a person or government treats wildlife and nature may mirror the way they treat other people or their citizens.

M. Ghandi went a little further by saying:

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.

JSErwine
09-21-2008, 07:57 PM
Then how is a society to be judged when it treats it's animals better than his/her fellow man?

We see this on a daily bases, hell I have even printed Pet insurance plans.

We have even seen it here in this very thread, being labeled corrupters because we have differences of opinions on the wolf.:shocked:

Blufire77
09-21-2008, 08:07 PM
Izz,

I respect although don’t completely support or understand the view you have on the wolf hunting.

May I put a scenario before you that was an actual occurrence here on my eco-farm and ask what would you have done.

I have 75 or so organically raised chickens that are allowed to free-range during the day outside in the sun where can do what chickens love and are designed to do. I sell their eggs to very grateful customers.

A very intelligent coyote started picking off my hens one or two a day. He was doing what coyotes are designed to do and he was very “wiley” and elusive in his daily onslaught of my flock.

He outwitted my dogs. He even ate one of my barn cats . . . my favorite by the way.

He changed his “attack” patterns.

He worked with two female coyotes that would distract so he could move in.

I tried live trapping . . . he sprung the trap and took the bait.

I tried changing the times I let the hens out or not letting them out at all, which is not healthy for the hens.

I tried sitting on a large rock by my pond waiting and knowing that is where he generally would begin his day and stared into his eyes and asked him not to eat my chickens because I would have to resort to deadlier means.

I asked the energy forms and nature beings to convince the coyote to go away.

He did not.

I shot him.

arcora
09-21-2008, 08:35 PM
I tried sitting on a large rock by my pond waiting and knowing that is where he generally would begin his day and stared into his eyes and asked him not to eat my chickens because I would have to resort to deadlier means.

I asked the energy forms and nature beings to convince the coyote to go away.

He did not.

I shot him.

:mfr_lol:

I wonder what Ghandi would say about that.

chelmostef
09-21-2008, 08:42 PM
Did you ask the coyote in person to leave?

Blufire77
09-21-2008, 10:23 PM
Yes . . . in person . . . . well person to animal.

He was hiding and waiting in the shrubs and trees staring at me . . . . . I stared right into his eyes. Which I will have to say I was not comfortable being that close to him. I told him I respected his intellegience and his right to food. But that he was not welcome in the barnyard or to the chickens.

There is plenty of small game here . . . . rabbits, mice and coyotes actually enjoy the sweet corn that is grown here. He just got very used to an easy chicken dinner every day.

These events took place for almost two weeks before I had to shoot him. He killed 22 chickens, 1 cat and not to mention the loss of eggs because the hens were so stressed.

The morning I shot him I asked permission from what I feel are the nature spirits, angels or beings here on this land. I asked for a steady hand and a solid kill shot and for his spirit to be released with honor and respect. He presented himself in such a way that the shot caused immediate death and he stood perfectly still until I knew I had a solid shot.



Did you ask the coyote in person to leave?