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Roemer
09-19-2008, 10:41 PM
My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.

bluestix
09-19-2008, 10:52 PM
ADD is fictional.

It is how they trick you into taking their Babylon Mind Control Poisons.


Speed Kills.


Considering that we are now in economic world war it may not be a problem for you because with no money you won't be able to buy their poisons.

visual co-creator
09-19-2008, 11:03 PM
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Shellie
09-19-2008, 11:03 PM
Well... this isn't easier than driving 40 miles, that is for sure, but have you considered home schooling?

Suriel
09-19-2008, 11:06 PM
You might want to consider home schooling. There is no need for your son to be on medication. Doctors like to tell you what to do because it is their job. But the choice is up to you. Ask your son what he thinks would be the best option?

More than likely he may be better to be out of a public school if he is sensitive to the outer environment.

That is my opinion anyway. Good Luck.

Peace

DoctorTony
09-19-2008, 11:40 PM
My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.


Hi Roemer

I am a chiropractor so bare with me. :original:
Everything you read about in the DSM-IV (this is the manual for psychiatrists) appears to be devoid of scientific fact. There is no such thing as a Mathematics Disorder, etc. As for ADD, PDD-NOS, etc. there are currently NO specific tests for these types of disorders (in the body). They are clinically decided upon by the practitioner. A blind opinion. There have been schools for ADD and ADHD children that have concentrated on the diet and kids have raised attention span and alertness far exceeding the expectations of the original diagnosis. Why? Because these disorders aren't what the paradigm has been predicated upon. They are bogus. Ritalin, etc. are smaller forms of heroine. They are powerful and dangerous meds.
Please consult with a functional medicine specialist. These are MDs, DOs, DCs (like me), NPs, NDs and the like - a harmonious mix. Check out www.functionalmedicine.org
Find a practitioner in your area and DO NOT allow your child to be a drug-addicted-potential-gone-south. This groupthink of drugs help everyone is rediculous. The change starts with you. Please do the BETTER thing. Look for alternatives in any way you can.

Good luck!
:thumb_yello:

Phtha
09-19-2008, 11:53 PM
What in the blazes is PDD-NOS?

Regardless any so called condition is based on a set of ludicrous rules denoting what is suppose to be "normal" which are set by some pretty sick individuals with other agendas.

DoctorTony
09-20-2008, 12:03 AM
What in the blazes is PDD-NOS?

Regardless any so called condition is based on a set of ludicrous rules denoting what is suppose to be "normal" which are set by some pretty sick individuals with other agendas.

It's a pervasive mental disorder (pervasive development disorder-not otherwise specified). Fancy terms that ultimately mean the child has a unique personality.
It is a type of autism.

Peace4Gaia
09-20-2008, 12:26 AM
This is just heart-wrenching! :sad:

I don't have any idea what the legal system is like in the Netherlands... but are you sure you have no say? Here in the U.S., it depends on which State you're in, but unless you're divorce specified that she has full legal custody... you should have some recourse. We have something called "joint custody" which means both parents must agree on certain decisions. Can you at least get a second opinion from another doctor to dispute the schools insistence on drugging your child? or try another route... deal directly with the school... do they REALLY have the right to ban your child if you do not agree to drug him? Can you get some legal advise? Start researching everything about your rights and what the school system can and cannot dictate to you in regards to your child's health status.

Research and start writing letters! And document what you find to help others in this same situation. Who knows? Maybe you can use this to dispute her custodial status and get custody turned over to you?

I can't believe this is a global phenomenon!!! I thought we in the U.S. were the only ones idiotic enough to drug an entire generation or two!! :yikes:


Peace
:flowers2:

ghglenn
09-20-2008, 12:34 AM
Please do some research into his diet...My sister-in-law has autism. Her mom stripped her diet of all glutten (sp?) and she is amazingly better. She still has autism, but has made marked improvement...she is now attending college as a freshmen. I would look at all viable alternatives before using medications.

eris
09-20-2008, 12:40 AM
i offer my sympathy, it is truly difficult in such split parenting situations i know from experience

my only advice would be tell her that modern medicine is now the foremost (read that again) cause of death in the US

i recommend the drug company expose by Gary Null called Prescription for Disaster (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2502546838698762400&q=gary+null&ei=m5WYSJ39EZXiiQKttKyhBQ&hl=en)

to make people think twice about starting any medication

FrostyMcunicron
09-20-2008, 01:06 AM
I am 18 years of age & the school system tried to tell me and many others we needed ADHD & other meds since i was 9, its bs do not buy into the pharmaceutical regime! Amphetamine(Aderal Riddelin Concerta etc.) IS NOT THE ANSWER!! Meditation & removing RED dies & Yellow 5 etc. from the childs diet may help to drastically reduce hyper activity if thats a problem. The schools just want the kid more docile please do not be fooled by any one trying to say its for "their own good!" IT SIMPLY ISNT!! NO ONE SHOULD GROW UP ON AMPHETAMINES! Methamphetamine - Methyl ring = methamphetamine.(?)

Jenny
09-20-2008, 11:51 AM
My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.


beste Roemer,

Ik antwoord voor het gemak even in het Nederlands.
Ik betwijfel ten zeerste of de school het recht heeft Tristan te weigeren als hij geen medicatie neemt.
Zo ja, dan is 40 km rijden de beste optie.
Eventueel zou je contact op kunnen nemen met Tinus Smits. Klassiek Homeopaath in Eindhoven. Hij is gespecialiseerd in de behandeling van kinderen met Vaccinatie bijwerkingen.Je vindt daar ook adressen van homeopathen in jouw omgeving die je kunnen helpen hierbij.
Mogelijk is de oorzaak van Tristans gevoeligheid een bijwerking van vaccinaties.
Ik zou dat allereerst uitzoeken.
Behandeling daarvan lost het probleem snel op.
:thumb_yello:

Zjenny

arcora
09-20-2008, 01:26 PM
Don't let them put your child on drugs.

Intelligent children have a hard time coping socially in school. The herd wants to bring them down to their level and they do this by teasing, ridiculing and casting away those that function on a higher (or lower) level.

The social need to conform runs deep and kids making fun of other kids who are different is a manifestation of that need.

People don't realize that it is just as difficult for the highly intelligent to relate to the herd as it is the less intelligent. They move the less intelligent into special groups to prevent the other children from making fun.

Rather than giving the more intelligent the same consideration, modern science has taken to prescribing drugs to force conformity.

I know this from experience. The most difficult part of my own life was my school days. I had my first IQ test at age 4 and was cursed with a score of 159. Nobody in my class understood me - and I couldn't understand them. It is hard to be different but drugs are not the answer.

Theresa
09-20-2008, 01:33 PM
THere are many, many resources regarding diet for treating anyone with neurochemical imbalances, esp. check out these resources:

www.bodyecology.com

"The Gut and Psychology Syndrome" (book available via amazon.com)

these are probably the best nutritional resources.

as for the spiritual/emotional piece, there are a few things happening. (oh, I should tell you I am a craniosacral therapist and have worked with many kids with "labels and drugs").

First of all, the kids coming in now are totally intolerant on the spiritual level of our backward, 3D way of being. They need freedom of expression and HIGH vibration environments-definitely not what you find in public schools, or even most families, sadly.

Secondly, they must be met WHERE THEY ARE, which requires the "caregivers" In their lives to REALLY grow in themselves to meet them.

Check out the book "Sonrise". You'll have to google it. These parents were psychologists and had a child who became severely autistic, way back before it was "common." (early 80's, I believe). They essentially created their own "therapy" program which was just basically getting into their son's experience, and literally pulled him out of it. He ended up graduated from Yale (I believe) with honors. No kidding. They totally got the spiritual piece down. Please get this book!

When I work with kids like this, I see SO many factors-their own 'karma', diet, which is huge, family issues, also huge, and of course, societal issues. I think if these kids as social "canaries in the coal mine". They are showing us in their family's and in society where we are out of integrity and being inauthentic. It's a paradigm that humanity is manifesting now collectively to mirror where we are out of alignment with our spiritual truth.

You will be ok! Just love yourself, then you can see him clearly to love him!

BLESSINGS AND LOVE TO YOU!!!

www.forgiveandawaken.com

Jenn
09-20-2008, 02:10 PM
Yup... the school tried to get me to put my 3 sons on meds for ADD, all three of them.
I told the teachers forget it and that they should go do their homework on the stuff.
They actually thought I was going to be compliant or something and told me I need ritalin too, that I have ADD!
(Hahahaha, No! But I have been diagnosed as a schizotypal because I have seen ghosts and believe in mystical things lol.
I do not take meds for that, its a rediculas diagnosis to make people afriad of their own ideas and beliefs.)
I told them that I envey the energy my kids have... even though sometimes they drive me to the brink of insanity...
I would rather that then a child who does nothing all day and who is too quiet. Hyper active is better then in a coma right!
All we need is some good meditation techniques.
I asked them to offer yoga to the students & if they are too hyper, send them on a jog around the school.
They wanted to drug my oldest because he twiddles his fingers and taps his desk with the pencil. That was their reason! It made me so mad.
Just make him sit on his hands then while he is not paying attention.
The school went behind my back and made them doctors apointments at the hospital. I went to the apointments, and the doctor said.. they don't need ritalin but he would prescribe it anyhow. I asked why and he said, its what the school wants. He said they send him kids everyday to be put on the stuff.
I think the teachers have been brainwashed to believe it helps the kids learn better. So I told the doctor not to waste paper on us.
The school tried to put me on the spot and I told them to go research the stuff, take it themselves for a while then come and try telling me thats what my kids need. I haven't heard anything of it since then.

Lulu Speaks
09-20-2008, 05:18 PM
You have my sympathies, my own son was diagnosed with a number of disorders ranging from tourettes syndrome to autism and I was pressured to medicate him by both the schools and the medical community. I did in fact try some of the suggested medications, always though the side effects were worse than the disability. In the end I opted out of the drug solution and my son, now 16 has outgrown many of his behavioral problems, is in an alternative high school and doing well.

If I had it to do over again I would have home schooled my son at least through middle school, I think he would then have been able to handle high school.

I hope you can convince your child's mother that stimulant drugs are not the answer, in fact they just mask behaviors that need to be addressed and worked through. It's hard to learn and grow if you're kept in a drug induced fog.

I wish you all the best.

houman
09-20-2008, 06:21 PM
Fight for your son
Ask your wife to watch this (you have to inform her)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3609599239524875493&ei=wTzVSMrHC5W6qAPCuNjGAg&q=ADHD+drug&hl=en

You can also recover the health of your son, check the following website/forum
http://www.ch3nutrigenomics.com/phpBB2/welcome.html

If your son has received vaccines containing thimerosal you may also want to check OSR (a new (merucry) chelator developed by Prof. Boyd Haley increasing Gluthatione levels)... you can get it through some naturopaths and MDs

Houman


My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.

Myra
09-20-2008, 07:52 PM
My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.

He does sound overwhelmed going from one house to the other and being around so many other kids all the time basically with no rest. It sounds like maybe he needs some time by himself, to be himself (you know. riding a bike, drawing, coloring, whatever) but I know there's not a whole lot you can do about that.

It's difficult dealing with a stubborn ex-spouse. I would say to have him Home-Schooled if you are able. Where I live when they get High-School age they have an Independent Study School which has worked out well for my daughter.

I would never let my kid go on Pharmaceutical Drugs. I believe in Alternative Health Care. The problem is what are the laws where you live? If you refuse to put him on Drugs can they take your child away? I have been through some pretty intrusive situations with Child Protective Services in my day. Thank God my daughter is 18 now is all I can say. :lightsabre:

Apparently schools can be too intrusive as well.

It would be great if you could find a good Doctor to give him a healthy alternative Diagnosis and that would be the end of that! :wink2: It CAN be done.

Otherwise, try to find out what the laws are, see what could happen if you refuse to comply with the school's demands (and I suggest avoiding getting any Court involved, don't let him get caught up in "The System") and try to convince your ex-wife of the dangerous risk of Pharmaceutical Drugs. If you could convince her and get her on board with you that would be the best way.

AndyH
09-20-2008, 08:41 PM
Home schooling is indeed an option, is it legal in Holland though?

Here in Ireland it's perfectly legal and accepted, you might want to consider a move...only a good idea imho though if you work in IT. There's umpteen jobs here for Dutch IT workers.

Mike_Jetson
09-20-2008, 10:21 PM
The kid lives with his mom did he not say? The problem is convincing his ex wife it seems

historycircus
09-20-2008, 10:33 PM
My middle step-son was in Kindergarten when they said he must be ADHD, anxiety ridden, and in need of drugs. They said he needed drugs. I said no, his mom said no. I have personally watched a speed junkie take Ritalin, cook the wax out of the pill form, and inject it to get high. A kid like that takes extra effort, not drugs. My son is now 14, and besides being a self absorbed little jerk from time to time, he is just fine. Besides, we can all be immature, self-absorbed jerks, at age 5 or age 50. Say no to the drugs for "behavior modification," and your kid will thank you when he's 30.

How many of our great artists and intellectuals would have been put on big-pharma's dope had it existed before now?

Baggywrinkle
09-20-2008, 10:46 PM
I am a pharmacist by trade. Don't let them drug your kid.

GenerationIke
09-20-2008, 11:55 PM
you would be better off allowing your child to go to a different school for the time being. Being around "normal kids" isn't really the answer. Have you been in public schools lately? In the long run, if your kid is that smart, you will be able to monitor his schooling much more closely if he is out of the normal school kids crowd. Remember, this is where they indoctrinate the masses---in public schools. And the education this day for our children isn't worth what our dollar is right now.

If you can, teach him at home, too, while he is in his special class room. You will not be sorry.

My two cents. I'm a substitute teacher in the public school systems.

tonyotag
09-21-2008, 03:00 AM
My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.

I know that you know that I am not a doctor, lawyer or any medical or legal profesional. I am a pseudo-biologist. Now that the disclamer is over, please seek a hormone specialist for what I am about to tell you. I also appoligize if I make more comments about my disclamier.

I have had the same problem in my youth. In elementry school I took tests that, as i regress, that I know were IQ tests. Probably he is in the 105 to 120 IQ range, am I correct? I am in that range. Did you request to see the file the county has on him? Has he been trained or made to think in future order (IE a game like chess, but not (sid miers') civilization, a game where a piece is taken, it cannot be resurected by production?

My questions get at the heart of how and what he is feeling, thinking. Hear my hypothesis: you say his energy is high (an assumption); that he has a hard time working with others. This only means that he is red, a leader, and I bet that others in his class are around the same age correct, and you say he is ten years of age? (chinese calander Tiger) Even if you do not beleive this stuff then just check it out for fun, it may explain more than you are willing to accept as fact or pseudofact. Again, I am not a phycholigist and do not the full extent of the situation. see your phycholigist (a professional.)

Please remember that ADD and ADHD may be overdignosed in America because of lazy teachers and that teachers are not dignostic professionals, just first line issuers and that the doctors do the rest. Listen to your phycholigist and if legal action is nessarry to keep your kid in school by having the phycholigist list doubts about inital front line dignosis. A lawyer would tell you (I am not a lawyer...) that a teacher is not a phycholigist and there can be persionality conflicts not in brain chemical disbalances that ADD or ADHD is truly caused by. Further university professors who are Medical doctors can take a brain scan to see if your child has ADHD or ADD (but this may be still experimental and you will need to do your research.)


topogrphical Dignostic procedure:

1. See how he plays chess against you. does he charge fast or methodicaly think it through. How fast does he think it through. does he think 1 move, 2 moves, 3 moves or more? (if 3 moves or higher his IQ could be around 120 or greater) PS. if he charges in the first game then learns how to deflect, after move after move, game after game, then hte dignosis is easy. He is just trying to live if in dignositic step 2.

2. Examine and study how he pays attention to a TV versus a book or a written work. A TV can create pseudo-ADD or pseudo-ADHD, therefore he may have the effects of what television does to a persion, become scatterbrained, not ADD or ADDHD. If he is calm at both TV and a reading then he is just fine and is not suited for medication. However; if he is excited and cannot sit still after eating (doing the same tasks), then it can be a sugar disruption (or overefficiency), hormone effeciency disorder, or digestive issue.

The best bet is that you and your son is cacuasion (spelling), and most cacuasions are germanic in genetic orgin. If so, and he may have a genetic effeciency of digesting and utilizing sugars not ony in the digestive trac, but also in all the cellular bodies in his body. he may be very effecient! This can also be just his growing spert and hormones affecting his brain. He is ten going on 14 of course. If possible place him in sports that use both his brain and bronze, cardio and muscles. Remeber, his brain cells may have this "efficency disease" too and result in faster thinking and thus higher IQ than normal, and therefore develop logic faster than his peers.

If he is irritable if he has not eaten for more than a noramal period of time, then he could have a disease opposite than diabeties, an overproduction of instulen. Consult a doctor, a blood test may be needed.

How is this "efficency disease" trait carried genetically. It is most likely carried by the maternal X chromosome and not the paternal Y chromosome. energy is created in the cell by mitochondra the "factory cells" in our eukyroyote cells. this creates ATP from sugars that testerone is nessarry for the process for (fact check needed, I am not a doctor) and ususally creates the nessary proteens and energy for us to carry out our day. In your son's case he may be going through a testrone increase from the adreanal glands (sits on top of the kidneys, yes females need testrone too, but not as much as males, just enough for the energy production in their bodies (this also goes for prepubesent boys too...)) This testrone increase can cause early puberty, but going this far in the "efficiency disease" is going way to far for this topic.

Your son may could also have viamin or mineral defficiency or over viamein efficiency. B12 is essencial for energy and for other vial functions. Caucasions can also have hemotosis (i think that what it is called), a disease that allows too much iron to exist in the body. first the digestive track asorbs too much iron, then the body does not know what to do with it and stores it as crystals in joints, extra blood cells, the liver (wich can become a huge crystal if unchecked and then you would die.) This too can be checked by a blood test (for all vitamin and mineral deficiency and efficiency diseases.) symptoms for iron over efficiency may not fully show untill later in age because of the fast rate you son may be growing. (A blood test may not fully show this at a young age so be careful.)

Or all in all, your son may just have a diffrent persionality than what is fitting in the class, and/or a reassessment to build character and more farther and son time may be needed. Talk to your phychologiest, or even better a licesenced specalized physician.

Take my advice with a grain of salt and do your own research online, consult with physisans that are consistantly listening to both research and you and your son. (caution that some physisians are more quanatative (treat more patientens) then qualatative (teat each patient with quality time and diagnosis.)

tonyotag

tonyotag
09-21-2008, 03:29 AM
Please do some research into his diet...My sister-in-law has autism. Her mom stripped her diet of all glutten (sp?) and she is amazingly better. She still has autism, but has made marked improvement...she is now attending college as a freshmen. I would look at all viable alternatives before using medications.

glutten is a sugar, therefore my hypothesis may be correct. (see my eailier post.)

Toymachines
09-21-2008, 04:06 AM
Babylon Mind Control Poisons
I will be using that one. much like the babylon fire water... Distract and confuse the masses.

DenisSelivanov
09-21-2008, 04:08 AM
My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.

no way man kids and drugs thats insane especially these days theres so much garbedge out there its unbelivable, you have consider a huge factor that even lets say what ever trials were successfull and the outcome was good for what ever number of participants, lab rats, cats, snakes or what ever, that the human body varies and due to the variations not only the anatomical, the psychic, the mental, social, individual and many others the outcomes could have serious issues, its disgusting theres so many commercials about cancer causing perscription drugs even one i took for several weeks when i had anxiety, so you defentaly should consult a therapist and work with them closelly, ill tell you from personal experience what ever issues your son has they can be delt with without perscription, diet i know from experience is a major thing, not only healthy but unhealthy diet as well, i cant tell you exactly what to do but you shouldn't even come close to meds, the best way is the natural way, u know honestly its so stupid to perscribe meds to people because the truth is one medication can be perscribed for like 20 different ailments or more i took a short peek at some of the meds i was perscribed once and i found out even though they were used to treat anxiety they were used to about a dozen other illnesses on top of that had so many issues that i was **** scarred but was desperate, im not a doctor but to me that sounds like a big blunder, what ever you choose drugs should be the last choice especially at a young age, and u should ask ur son ur self, i bet u can find out exactly what the issue is if u just ask, if u sit down and have a conversation with him to find out why he has problems if he feels there are any, and i belive it should be exactly that a mutual decision urs and his and well ur wifes, i also started reading a book recently called from else where by scott mandelker hes a psychiatrist with a phd who conducted a study about reincarnates who come here to help earth and humanity grow and elevate spiritually, combined with what i learned about indigo children which is supposebly that the younger the children are today that the higher percentage of them are the reincarnted beings who do have difficulty adjusting as a result of their spiritual differentiation which causes confusion, so there could be a lot more here then what meets the human eye, or the majority of the eyes, and there must bea reason your son is acting this way, maybe he knows something the teachers and the kids dont and is sort of incompatable, either from his or their persepctive but there could be nothing wrong with him, and if its the enviourment then think about it, does he really have a problem?, or is the problem the inviorment? or his persepctive of it, which by the way can be altered, or rather say learnd by him as something to be comfortable with, but talk to him, invest time and ask as much as u can with him to learn, keep a complete open mind and i guartenee you youll learn a ton from him :) good luck brotha if u have questions feel free to ask :) also one added note the medications i was given and i tested several untill i was comfortable with one, well the first several were major blunders, low hiigh blood pressure, massive confusion, and jees i cant describe it but just even more chaos and did more harm then good, and the one i settled for which did help me was awful but i needed it bad i had major anxiety problems, but either way the meds totally screwed me even the one i used to heal me, turned me into a zombie and oh god just did all kinds of nasty **** to my body, and i dont think a child of a young age can diagnose their own problems so they may not even say anything if the medications are problematic for them, either way dont let ur kid become a guinna pig, and you should defenatly get involved with ur wife on this

Lance
09-21-2008, 06:20 AM
I'm sure this will garner some negative feelings due to many people's inability to read common sense, but I have had many a great success with putting everyone with a supposed 'disturbance' of the force onto eating HEMP OIL.

NO, not the cannabis the youth smoke to get stoned. HEMP OIL and HEMP HEARTS. Most mental imbalance comes from an Essential Fatty Acid imbalance in our brains. They didn't make cannabis illegal to grow in the US and Canada because of it's economic impact...they did it to turn our brains to mush. The economics was an aside. here is a breakdown of hemp seed oil and heart...

http://www.manitobaharvest.com/nutrition/

No, I don't back any company, it was the first thing thing that came up 'hemp, nutrition' on google. My child (Rowan Aleister Wildwood, age 7) eats it as an 'aside' everyday because it tastes good and he knows it is good for him. Seriously, feed your child this or homeschool. I send my son to the local Waldorf school because he asked to go, for the next 4 years then he stated he is going to be learning at home.

Here's my original post with dailies...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2905

Roemer
09-21-2008, 04:00 PM
I wanne thank everyone for the warm replys and great advices. I feel very supported by your response. The most are very usefull to me.
But dont stop sending replys, it can never be to much.

Roemer:thumb_yello:

Bobbi
09-21-2008, 05:46 PM
Roemer - I apologize for the length of this post. I do hope it helps - I understand your feelings of helplessness and parental concern.

I am a mother of an ADHD child, who is now almost 27 years old. Unfortunately, I was confronted with this diagnosis before enough was known to effectively assist my son at the time. We struggle with it to this day. But in the meantime, I have learned a great deal.

1. Discard the meds - my son ended up with a bundle branch block in his heart and destroyed one of his valves. He now has to protect his heart. Alternative options include:
Adjust his diet. First find out his blood type and adjust his diet according to that information. Additionally, a cup of caffeinated coffee will do the same as Ritalin. Remove all processed sugars - in all forms. Carefully read all labels. Glucose, sucrose, dextrose, etc. Add coconut oil or palm kernel oil to his diet. This is a medium chain fatty acid, as opposed to short chain or long chain. Our bodies metabolize medium chains altogether differently than the long or short. The history of removing this oil from society's food chain has had monumentally adverse effects that you can see anywhere in the world not using coconut oil as a mainstay of the daily diet. Make certain, however, that the oil is hand-pressed, not chemically extracted. When adjusting his diet, do a pulse test of each food item before placing it into his diet. Have him sit still for one minute while taking his pulse. Place a small piece of food in his mouth and hold it there, don’t chew it. Take his pulse again while the food is in his mouth. If his pulse changes by more than 4 beats, eliminate that food item. Test again every few months. Contact a naturopath, and stay away from the mainstream medicine. Acupuncture might also be a means to address some of the problems. The nervous system controls a great deal of our body's reactions. The only proviso I would add about acupuncture is to find one from mainland China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan or Korea (in that order of preference). Another thing to consider, is that the Greek origins of the word “pharmacy” in the Bible, is translated as “sorcery” or “witchcraft” (druggery, mixers of potions).

2. BEWARE of “special” or “behavioral modification” classroom settings. These are the most destructive arenas in which you could place your child. He will be exposed to horrors I cannot even begin to describe. Additionally, once he is placed in this type of environment, especially here in the US, he carries that label with him throughout his school years and the distinction is prone to all kinds of attitudes and presumptions. Home schooling is only viable if your wife, or you, have the means to devote the proper attention to these children. They are always extremely bright and intelligent. Their problem arises in processing sensory information. They get overwhelmed with all the information coming in and need time to process it effectively. Without that time and without the sensory distraction they become frustrated and begin to act out.

3. I found with my son that activities that required analytical thought, i.e., jigsaw puzzles, taking apart and putting together anything mechanical, word puzzles, etc. were great diversions to settle him down. Physical activities, until he learns to become aware of, and control, the behaviors brought out by too much sensory input, are only going to frustrate him even further.

4. I also removed from the house in all forms, anything associated with violence - toys, games, tv, especially CARTOONS - our tv viewing was done in my presence with my input and limited to Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy. It was our hour together daily.

5. Immediately remove - although damage at his age has already occurred but could be stopped in it’s tracks and addressed accordingly, all forms of xenoestrogens. In other words, plastics. All of them. Discard all forms of plastic and replace with glass. Plastics should only be used with dried goods. Anything kept in plastic that is of liquid form or has fats will cause the chemicals in plastic to leach and enter his system. Heat will cause this leaching even more quickly with higher contents of the chemicals. What xenoestrogens do is to bring to the forefront physical maturity to a body and brain that is not ready to handle the consequences of sexual maturity. What happens is that once these chemicals tell the body it’s time to develop the sexual organs, all growth activity shuts down in the brain and directs its entire energy process to developing the body’s ability to reproduce. Look around in society today - do you not see these behaviors running rampant in our children - they’ve become hostile, territorial, aggressive (both socially and sexually), erratic, impulsive, inappropriate for their age, etc. Their brains are not developed enough, not only physically but socially, to understand the effects hormones have on their little bodies.

6. Be his role model in all that you do in his presence. I’ve even gone out of my way to place us in situations where he can be aware of the stresses and watch me maintain control and include him in the process. Ask his opinion, shape it to teach him how to see the signs in him arise when confronted with stress and breath, count, whatever works for him while he learns to maintain his “acting out”.

It’s not an easy process, and I understand the difficulties that arise when one parent has custody and the other is left out of the loop. In my case, I had no choice but to give up custody because my son’s behaviors were becoming dangerous towards my other children. If I can answer any other questions, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Be strong, Roemer. I sympathize with you on every level! Always remember to love him freely and without condition - regardless!!!!! Correct him when necessary, by all means, but always express your love for him. Harsh love is necessary and the hardest thing you will ever have to do, believe me. He’ll always come to you in times of trouble and know that he is connecting to his cornerstone of strength - in you.

Bobbi (Wanted to put in a simple "HUG" emoticon, but they don't have one - so here's a HUG.)

FrostyMcunicron
09-21-2008, 05:51 PM
very informative post bobby! I found the excerpt regarding the short & long chain ammino's most interesting. I do recall reading an article which stated hyperactive kids should go with a high carbohydrates diet as opposed to high in protein.

Bobbi
09-21-2008, 05:59 PM
A word of caution on the carbohydrates. One's blood type is critical in modifying a diet. For example, Type O should have very, very little carbs and lots of protein. Check your blood type first.

cway
01-01-2009, 03:56 AM
Giving strong drugs to children in most cases is not necessary, try the new school 1st or there are many herbal and homeopathic remedies that will work just as well.

Northern Boy
01-04-2009, 02:30 AM
My son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.
He's a very nice kid and he is doing great at school, he is as smart as the rest in his class,even abit above regular. But; he has a problem with other kids because he does not understand everything about socializing. He can be very stubbern and thinks that no one understands him. But when he is at home with my ex-wife there is, with 3 other kids in the house, not a real problem. When he is with me, there is no problem at all. Only at school. Because of his disorder he is behind emotially 2 years. So he cant keep up with everyone. A psychiatrist, we consulted, thinks thats the problem. I agree with that. A school where they are specialized in PDD-NOS and ADHD, he thinks ,will improve a lot of the situation. My ex wife, thinks he is better of surrounded by "normal" kids and dont want all the hassel because he has to go to a school 40 miles from home instead of two blocks away. But because of the problems with[Tristan is his name] my son, school wont keep him there unless he takes medication like ritalin or strattera. Look it up! everything you find about this is BAD NEWS. She still think this is the easiest way to solve the problem and really thinks a few pills a day will make him the ideal child he should be, even i mailed her all the information about this ****. She is not aware. She believes mainstream opinion is good and i am slightly crazy. Tried everything to get it out of her head without any results. I dont want my kid on drugs like ritalin because it is:AMFITAMINES YOU KNOW WE CALLED IT SPEED, when i was young[hmm they still do i think]. How in heavens name can that **** for a psychic healthy human being, lead you into the biggest social, health and finacial probems(you will die from it doctors say) but for my ten year old son, with a lot of social problems ,it will be the solution?
Because he is living with his mom she got the power to do this without my permission. And i think she makes THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE WORLD!!!
It keeps me awake at night and i try to figger out how i could stop this, but the answers i come up with are not done because it will make things worse for Tristan. I dont know how to handle this. Thats why i wrote this here and hope to get usefull information, from people who know more than i do, about this situation.

My son was way advanced in Jr kindergarten and became bored with the silly ass stuff they were having the kids do . I am at work one day in Windsor Ontario Canada and they call me telling me that they need to talk to me and its about my son . I leave work early and meet with the principal. She tells me he is acting up and refusing to do what is asked of him like all kids do . Then see looks me in the eye and asks me if i would be willing to put him on Ritalin I looked up at her chuckled and told her yes ... paused for a second and told her that as soon as she started smoking crack i would put him on Ritalin end of story no more phone callsfrom them

mu2143
01-04-2009, 07:14 AM
Get him of the chemical poison food!!! don't wash him with shampoo ,don't brush his teeth with toothpast. Just check my other post good info

What would help to get Mangosteen very good,but you need also eat the shel"Schil". Only little bit expensive (1kg/13 euro)and hard to get. Check out the toko shops.
Dry the shell and powder it and mix it with some juice.

Make sure he get some oil, Omega 3/6/9.

Go to www.naturalnews.com for health info very help full