Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?

[QueenOfLeon]

Now please dont attack me cos I am a MASSIVE fan of both Bill and Kerry and if it was not for their courage I would not be as half enlightened as I am.

the truth is this never even crossed my mind untill a friend whom I am trying to WAKE UP just kept going on about it. We were watching the richard hoagland interview where he says that kerry and bill interviewing him be a very sophisticated way of getting to him *Kerry just laughs it off* but my friend said that hergiggle was telling. ???????????

I would like to add that my friend is very paranoid as a rule, hence the fact I thought he had the capacity to come out of his barn and look beyond mainstream media! but what played on my mind the most was when I noticed Kerry telling us the location of her so called safe haven?!

Maybe the paranoia is wearing off? Why does this strike me as unsensible. Kerry has done so much that would **** the PTB off.....why just give em your address?


Anybody else?

[visual co-creator]

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[QueenOfLeon]

Genuine WHAT?

That was EXACTLY my reaction to my freinds niavity! He is new to this and I am trying to educate him. I personally think that they are protected by light beings, hence they can be and have been as open as they are. If it was not for them we would not be here. But my freinds point was how can they be so blatant about where they have moved to and what they are doing without threat?

[motov]

Now please dont attack me cos I am a MASSIVE fan of both Bill and Kerry and if it was not for their courage I would not be as half enlightened as I am.

the truth is this never even crossed my mind untill a friend whom I am trying to WAKE UP just kept going on about it. We were watching the richard hoagland interview where he says that kerry and bill interviewing him be a very sophisticated way of getting to him *Kerry just laughs it off* but my friend said that hergiggle was telling. ???????????

I would like to add that my friend is very paranoid as a rule, hence the fact I thought he had the capacity to come out of his barn and look beyond mainstream media! but what played on my mind the most was when I noticed Kerry telling us the location of her so called safe haven?!

Maybe the paranoia is wearing off? Why does this strike me as unsensible. Kerry has done so much that would **** the PTB off.....why just give em your address?


Anybody else?

1. what you mean by genuine i havent got a clue....

2. safe haven is not to protect from agents of PTB but for some event of cataclysm-ish..lol... and no i dont think their undercover govt. spy out to enchant us all then rip the foundation away and turn us all in to the PTB copa...:mfr_lol:

plz delete this thred and use your time on some real mind food...

cheers m8....

[mwood82]

I feel that I have little choice but to beleive what they have relayed to me. Of course those thoughts have come into my mind and it would not surprise me that Bill and Kerry are agents of the NWO, but for now I refuse to believe that.

-Mwood

[Nik]

If **you evolve** as a result of their efforts to disclose hidden information, does it matter? :)

[eris]

i don't doubt Bill & Kerry's integrity - but i don't always resonate with their information/interviewee's

[QueenOfLeon]

I feel that I have little choice but to beleive what they have relayed to me. Of course those thoughts have come into my mind and it would not surprise me that Bill and Kerry are agents of the NWO, but for now I refuse to believe that.

-Mwood

Yeah me too defo. Im not having it. they have done so much for me and they dont even know it, which is whats beautiful about his forum. Sorry if I offended anyone but I felt ir was a valid question. Free speach and all that.

Much love xx

[clarkkent]

my internal buls***t detector thinks they are very sincere people, and the lack of the video's being slick (i'm an editor and was initially thrown off by the "low budget-ness") is a testament that theyre just real people doing a job i dont see many others doing. the outtake from the wilcock interview was a nice "lighter" side to what they do, as most of the topics are very heavy.

im bummed they havent interviewed dr greer or anyone that backs up military abductions and PLF's (programmed life forms) but that doesnt mean theyre working for the wrong side.

as bill wrote to me, "use your inuition"

and thats what i do.

-k

[eris]

But my freinds point was how can they be so blatant about where they have moved to and what they are doing without threat?

'they' know where everyone is i believe

there is a tide turning, many people are on the front of the wave Bill & Kerry, Icke, etc etc - even if they took out the crest, the mass of water behind would still engulf them

remembering how powerful we are, that is waking up really really

:original:

[eris]

Sorry if I offended anyone but I felt ir was a valid question. Free speach and all that.

Much love xx

its really important to question everything & find our own inner bulls*** detector

i just can't stress enuf how important that is!

:wub2:

[Bigfatfurrytexan]

i don't know if they are genuine or not. I do know that their content is questionable for me. The Serpo thing really was a biggie, you know?

I believe them to both be genuine. but i also believe that sooner or later (if not already) they will see the $$$ potential in this business and they, too, will be ruined like so many of the others before them.

Bill, Kerry...nothing personal. I like you guys. I hope that you prove the latter part of my sentence wrong. As well, i think that the Serpo thing was more an act of reporting on your part. The only negative is that your names were tied in with it, you know?

[bodzoyfa]

To ask if Bill and Kerry are legitimate doesnt seem to be the right question to me. The question that seems the most relevant is whether or not the people that have been interviewed are genuine or not.

Kerry and Bill find these people, establish rapport, interview and deliver to us. They are simply a medium of information exchange.

I think they do a good job of not incorporating their own ideas, preconceived notions, etc in their work. When you listen to the dialogue or read the transcripts, they're just regurgitating what that interviewee has said in a more digestable way for the average person who may not understand it all so clearly, free of any personal implications.

In addition, Bill and Kerry are constantly asserting that we not believe anything that has been presented to us but rather use discernment and intuition find our own truth. To me, nothing could be more genuine than that.

[Merlin]

I think when it comes to deciding wether or not somebody is genuine in what they say, I think you have to rely on your "Gut" feeling about them.
I think that your first intuitive feeling is usually correct but what happens is people start to question their own intuition and doubt starts to creep in.

I would like to ask Bill and Kerry have they approached Dr Greer to participate with the Camelot site? I personally think what that man is doing is one of the most important parts of this grand puzzle which I suspect is slowly coming together to give us answers.

If you have approached Dr Greer and he has refused to contribute, would you tell us what reasons he gave for not doing so?

Thank you

Merlin.

[2infinityandbeyond]

I feel that I have little choice but to beleive what they have relayed to me. Of course those thoughts have come into my mind and it would not surprise me that Bill and Kerry are agents of the NWO, but for now I refuse to believe that.

-Mwood

?

Do you believe everything people tell you? That doesnt sound very smart.

I have watched all of their videos and read much much information regarding 'fringe knowledge' and i come to my own conlusions based on the overwhelming compilation of information i have been privy to.

And yes, i think they are genuine.

I wouldnt be suprised if you were an agent for the NWO!

*takes thounge out of cheek* :lol3


p.s your wording their was very unusual.

[Lee]

Well you know we all are a little suspicious and questioning or lets face it we would not be here communicating on this site. And I think it is a healthy thing to not believe everyone and anything you hear. We have been blessed with a curious soul that desires the truth. So I think that Bill and Kerry would welcome your scepticism. One of the ways I discern the intent of someone is if they are open to scrutiny and questioning.

[Shellie]

I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?

[2infinityandbeyond]

I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?

That italian guy?

P.s ; I'm not afraid to name names lol.

[Shellie]

No, not him.

[2infinityandbeyond]

No, not him.

He certainly raised my eyebrow.

[QueenOfLeon]

I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?

I have read that some people are dubious about green..with the northern hemisphere being a **** hole by the time the powers that be are finished. My mind is still open though. Im just not whole heartedely believing anything or anyone ...just taking in the info and filing it in the mind archives till I need it. What is important now I guess is staying positive and away from fear.


im not scared anymore. AT ALL.

[Steve_A]

Hi eris,

I am totally confident in the integrity of Bill & Kerry. To stand in front of people and begin to discuss the things that are being discussed on their website and indeed this forum, you need to ave a lot of muster. I think that if they were not genuine in what they do, like any charloton, they would have fallen by the wayside by now. In fact as I understand it, Bill left the makings of a brilliant site exactly because he didn't accept the hanky panky that was going on. Consequently the site is slowly becoming to be just another one of those virtual graveyards that we come across from time to time (actually a lot of the time) on the net.

I too have doubts about some of their guests, one of which Bill took to question in their last interview and also another who gave out absolutely no information originating from them, in other words, they repeated what another 'whistlelower' had said. It was a drag to listen to the interview as it was lengthy and like I said, in my opinion was not very 'in your face' with new info.

However I am a fan of George Green, Robert Dean and of John Lear, bearing in mind you cannot take as gospel 100% of what they say, you still have to find information from different sources before you can come to a reasonable conclusion.

Best regards,

Steve


i don't doubt Bill & Kerry's integrity - but i don't always resonate with their information/interviewee's

[izz]

Now please dont attack me cos I am a MASSIVE fan of both Bill and Kerry and if it was not for their courage I would not be as half enlightened as I am.

when I noticed Kerry telling us the location of her so called safe haven?!

Maybe the paranoia is wearing off? Why does this strike me as unsensible. Kerry has done so much that would **** the PTB off.....why just give em your address?


Anybody else?


i find this question are bill and kerry genuine quite insulting actually .. like a reverse psychology poison dart .. you say please dont attack you .. then ask a question which is a bit offensive .. and on their forum !!! :shocked:

it is a bit like when someone says .. ' can i be honest .. then proceeds to insult you .. '
It is a bit of a cheek if you ask me ..

[2infinityandbeyond]

i find this question are bill and kerry genuine quite insulting actually .. like a reverse psychology poison dart .. you say please dont attack you .. then ask a question which is a bit offensive .. and on their forum !!! :shocked:

it is a bit like when someone says .. ' can i be honest .. then proceeds to insult you .. '
It is a bit of a cheek if you ask me ..



I think mwood82's post was much more insulting with his subtle little inuendo thrown in there for good measure.

What a contribution for your first post mwood, after all your days on the forum!

[QueenOfLeon]

i find this question are bill and kerry genuine quite insulting actually .. like a reverse psychology poison dart .. you say please dont attack you .. then ask a question which is a bit offensive .. and on their forum !!! :shocked:

it is a bit like when someone says .. ' can i be honest .. then proceeds to insult you .. '
It is a bit of a cheek if you ask me ..

Well you would say that if your defensive. Why is it an insult to question??? ..is that not why we are here? Dont be indoctrined by authority sweetness. If im insulting anyone they can delete the thread, no skin off my nose. It is Just a question. I appreciate your opinion though, however maybe you should read the restof the thread. I think I have more than explained myself.

Much love.

[izz]

Well you would say that if your defensive. I appreciate your opinion though, however maybe you should read the restof the thread. I think I have more than explained myself.

Much love.

i read all the thread but essentially it started in the same way that girls gossip .. you know when they say .. ' what do you think of so and so ... '

it is a cheek to ask such a question on their forum IMO

[Shellie]

Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if you thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

[doodlebug]

'they' know where everyone is i believe
:original:
Aye, and at this point there is no sense in any of these 'watchers on the walls' that have been sounding the wake-up trumpets for humanity to hide any way. They are doing their part and completing their mission, and taking the risks they feel they must. As we all must.
Read the mission statements for Projects Camelot and Avalon.
They have emphatically stated over and over that the information they are presenting represents many viewpoints. You can take it or leave it, your choice.
As far as being able to interview the many people who have valuable things to say, these things take time and financing. There are many of these who are getting their messages out, for the greatest and highest good of all concerned.

Brightest blessings to all :trumpet:

[2infinityandbeyond]

Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if they thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

its not what you say its how you say it that matters.

I personally believe Kerry deserves the respect to have this topic worded a bit better then it was.

[QueenOfLeon]

Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if they thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

*ROUND OF APPLAUSE*

thankyou friend.


I was waiting for such a response though !!

*rolls eyes*

[izz]

Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if they thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

i understand what you are saying boogles but it was not a valid question.
this forum is project camelots forum ... it belongs to kerry and bill and it is very rude to question if they are genuine .. would you walk into someone's house and insult them .. if even by a back handed question ..

no i thought not !

[QueenOfLeon]

i understand what you are saying boogles but it was not a valid question.
this forum is project camelots forum ... it belongs to kerry and bill and it is very rude to question if they are genuine .. would you walk into someone's house and insult them .. if even by a back handed question ..

no i thought not !

IZZ ...I understand your being protective of bill and kerry, I too am very fond of them and appreciative of what they have done for me...read back and you will read I stated that. But at the same time...it is healthy to enquire if there is a theme of thought relating to it, given we are all interconnect and we are living in a global conspiracy! Ever heard of Above Top Secret.com?

So forgive me but I think it is a well founded question once the seed of doubt was planted in my head.

Much love xx

[izz]

i am not being protective .. i do not know bill and kerry but i do respect them and this is THEIR forum .. and i have a highly developed sense of justice and fairness ..

maybe this forum, their forum is not the right place to ask that question IMO ..

Ever heard of Above Top Secret.com? are you winding me up ! :) haha

[2infinityandbeyond]

IZZ ...I understand your being protective of bill and kerry, I too am very fond of them and appreciative of what they have done for me...read back and you will read I stated that. But at the same time...it is healthy to enquire if there is a theme of thought relating to it, given we are all interconnect and we are living in a global conspiracy! Ever heard of Above Top Secret.com?

So forgive me but I think it is a well founded question once the seed of doubt was planted in my head.

Much love xx

Raising a question like this does hardly anything other then cause trouble. Its up to you to come to your own conclusions based on your observations and your intuition. Bringing this into open discussion is hardly going to achieve anything good.

*nudges QueenOfLeon* - quit rockin the boat :naughty:

[Shellie]

I am not sure if I agree.

Part of me wants to start a thread with the names of everyone interviewed, so we can all post NOT what we think of them, but WHY. Maybe some of us picked up on different things... which could be better clues pointing to this illusive "truth". I don't want to cause problems or arguments, but I would truly love to learn what other people are thinking. Maybe they are thinking things I haven't thought of before.

Do you all think that is a lousy idea?

[QueenOfLeon]

Raising a question like this does hardly anything other then cause trouble. Its up to you to come to your own conclusions based on your observations and your intuition. Bringing this into open discussion is hardly going to achieve anything good.

*nudges QueenOfLeon* - quit rockin the boat :lol3:

Thank goodness I have my life jacket on. Sheesh harsh waters here captain. :mfr_lol:

[2infinityandbeyond]

I am not sure if I agree.

Part of me wants to start a thread with the names of everyone interviewed, so we can all post NOT what we think of them, but WHY. Maybe some of us picked up on different things... which could be better clues pointing to this illusive "truth". I don't want to cause problems or arguments, but I would truly love to learn what other people are thinking. Maybe they are thinking things I haven't thought of before.

Do you all think that is a lousy idea?

Actually i think thats a fantastic idea! Everyone will have perceived them in their own way so it would be interesting and maybe even enlightening to see it from a different perspective.

Just dont let me in the George Green and the Leo Zagami posts :lmfao:

[QueenOfLeon]

I am not sure if I agree.

Part of me wants to start a thread with the names of everyone interviewed, so we can all post NOT what we think of them, but WHY. Maybe some of us picked up on different things... which could be better clues pointing to this illusive "truth". I don't want to cause problems or arguments, but I would truly love to learn what other people are thinking. Maybe they are thinking things I haven't thought of before.

Do you all think that is a lousy idea?

Thats all I wondered too ...since my freind said that to me I wondered if anyone was thinking the same thats all, and its not my opinion as i said in previous posts. But as this is a forum for critical thinking I thought it was safe to ask.

Much love xx

[SkyWatcher]

Kerry and Bill are all about openness and disclosure. Do you think for one moment that the powers that be don't know exactally where Kerry and Bill are living? Why should she hide what is probably already out in the open. After all, to buy a house sometimes even to rent, you have to do a tremendous amount of paperwork, background checks, etc. You are totally exposed financially, let alone the emotional side, if she bought a house.

Kerry and Bill are not ducking out of town when the stuff hits the fan, and Kerry has let us know exactly where she will be when it does.

[2infinityandbeyond]

Thank goodness I have my life jacket on. Sheesh harsh waters here captain. :mfr_lol:

:shocked: how come the old smiley came up in your quote! So much for me striving for perfection

[QueenOfLeon]

Kerry and Bill are all about openness and disclosure. Do you think for one moment that the powers that be don't know exactally where Kerry and Bill are living? Why should she hide what is probably already out in the open. After all, to buy a house sometimes even to rent, you have to do a tremendous amount of paperwork, background checks, etc. You are totally exposed financially, let alone the emotional side, if she bought a house.

Kerry and Bill are not ducking out of town when the stuff hits the fan, and Kerry has let us know exactly where she will be when it does.

yeah another point I raised with my friend who retorted why is she safe? But I am of the opinion that TPTB are crumbling, and the split factions could be using their voice for both enlightenment and dis-info. Which again brings us back to intuition doesnt it, and why it is healthy to have these conversations.

Much love xxx

[Shellie]

I see this could become enormous. I think we should ask our dear moderators if they would be so kind as to create a whole new section of "whatcha think" with everyone's name a different category? Like the whistleblowers' section with each name below?

[izz]

and yes i sincerely believe Kerry and Bill are genuine to answer your initial question ..

[Shellie]

The problem of course is that we could end up spinning in circles, and poisoning ourselves with it at the same time.

But that brings me to my original question... we like and we dislike, but does anyone feel the hair on the back of their neck go up and the mention of certain people?

[QueenOfLeon]

I see this could become enormous. I think we should ask our dear moderators if they would be so kind as to create a whole new section of "whatcha think" with everyone's name a different category? Like the whistleblowers' section with each name below?

Faaabulooos idea sweety faabulooos.:thumb_yello:

[izz]

, and the split factions could be using their voice for both enlightenment and dis-info. Which again brings us back to intuition doesnt it, and why it is healthy to have these conversations.

Much love xxx

or they [ the PTB ] can use posters who raise doubt and question the sincerity of people who oppose them ... to drum up doubt in other peoples eyes .. and to discredit and undermine people which is what my discernment meter tells me you are doing .. knowingly or not

[2infinityandbeyond]

The problem of course is that we could end up spinning in circles, and poisoning ourselves with it at the same time.

But that brings me to my original question... we like and we dislike, but does anyone feel the hair on the back of their neck go up and the mention of certain people?

Well, what are forums for but inteligent, civil debate. I think it would be interesting to talk about some of the people.

For a start.. does wilcock remind anyone of our new evil pope? :tongue2:

[Shellie]

Ratzinger has the ugliest aura I have ever seen.

[QueenOfLeon]

The problem of course is that we could end up spinning in circles, and poisoning ourselves with it at the same time.

But that brings me to my original question... we like and we dislike, but does anyone feel the hair on the back of their neck go up and the mention of certain people?

Look I have to be honest....throughout my journey initially i was suspicious of everyone, I was very much of the moto TRUST NO-ONE. Now however I understand alot more and realise we are all co-creators. So even the baddies I try to send love too because they need it more than anyone. We should not dwell in the negative, but you should always question as it is just as dangerous to be gullible as it is to be cynicle., hehe and visa versa course.

Much love xxx

[2infinityandbeyond]

Ratzinger has the ugliest aura I have ever seen.

You noticed that too huh?

What a leader! He followed hitler so i guess his heart must be in the right place.

[Nik]

The thread grows 2 pages in the time it took to listen to Bill and Kerry's radio interview...

How about a bit more focus on the actual point of Project Avalon: ground crews and resources? :) Is it just me or does it really look like the non-Avalon sections are getting a lot more attention than the Avalon ones?

[QueenOfLeon]

or they [ the PTB ] can use posters who raise doubt and question the sincerity of people who oppose them ... to drum up doubt in other peoples eyes .. and to discredit and undermine people which is what my discernment meter tells me you are doing .. knowingly or not


Well you need a new battery then cos your way waaay off!!

:lol3:

[izz]

Look I have to be honest....throughout my journey initially i was suspicious of everyone, I was very much of the moto TRUST NO-ONE. Now however I understand alot more and realise we are all co-creators. So even the baddies I try to send love too because they need it more than anyone. We should not dwell in the negative, but you should always question as it is just as dangerous to be gullible as it is to be cynicle., hehe and visa versa course.

Much love xxx

cynical .. ummm .. interesting ..

i love the way you open a can of worms and then deny it all and act all sweet .. :naughty:

[izz]

Well you need a new battery then cos your way waaay off!!

:lol3:

am i ? :naughty:

[PodWORLD]

I think the question is fair enough.

Bill and Kerry have interviewed people and let the whole world access it.
They've created a website with info that the whole world can access.
They've created a well designed easy to use web forum that allows people who otherwise might not, communicate.

I thank them and you can clearly see in the interviews that they have problems with some of the statements but they bite their tongues because
you let the person speak and then decide for yourself.

Good thread which inspired debate.

Kudos to them both and to you.

[QueenOfLeon]

The thread grows 2 pages in the time it took to listen to Bill and Kerry's radio interview...

How about a bit more focus on the actual point of Project Avalon: ground crews and resources? :) Is it just me or does it really look like the non-Avalon sections are getting a lot more attention than the Avalon ones?

well mods feel free to delete cos my question has been well and truly answered and I thank you for the space to ask such "controversial" things.

Much love xxx

[QueenOfLeon]

cynical .. ummm .. interesting ..

i love the way you open a can of worms and then deny it all and act all sweet .. :naughty:

Thats cos I am sweet sister. No negativity here.:wub2:


Much love xxx

[Dantheman62]

I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?
Yes, Burisch, Deacon, and Lear! sorry,sorry,sorry. Love Boriska! so harmless.

[2infinityandbeyond]

well mods feel free to delete cos my question has been well and truly answered and I thank you for the space to ask such "controversial" things.

Much love xxx

Can i ask what exactly it was that answered your question?

[izz]

Thats cos I am sweet sister. No negativity here.:wub2:


Much love xxx

:lmao:

[QueenOfLeon]

Yes, Burisch, Deacon, and Lear! sorry,sorry,sorry

Yeah now Burisch for me seems odd..simply because he can come out and let seemingly above top secret info out and then return for another job?

Seems fishy to me xx

[Dantheman62]

Yeah now Burisch for me seems odd..simply because he can come out and let seemingly above top secret info out and then return for another job?

Seems fishy to me xx
Bordering on insanity! BUT GOTTA LOVE BILL AND KERRY!

[Shellie]

I will come out... Fulford. Benjamin Fulford. I don't think he was surprisingly invited into the Illuminati in Japan... I think he was groomed for it by Illuminati parents. A white guy with a (possibly) Jewish name writes for a money magazine and then becomes Minister of Finance for one of the richest countries in Asia/the world at a relatively young age... C'mon. His name might as well be Benjamin Rockefeller.

[bill7907]

I am not for Dan Burish guys, but when Kerry asked him how come they didn't kill you for saying that much? He said somebody out there wants him to reveal that kind of information.

The one I have trouble believing is John Lear. Did he say that Venus is all green?
The best Interviewee is Robert Dean with the highest credibility, which makes Project Camelot very credible after all.

[Dantheman62]

I am not for Dan Burish guys, but when Kerry asked him how come they didn't kill you for saying that much? He said somebody out there wants him to reveal that kind of information.

The one I have trouble believing is John Lear. Did he say that Venus is all green?
The best Interviewee is Robert Dean with the highest credibility, which makes Project Camelot very credible after all.
John Lear, retired pilot who believes everything he reads and hears.

[Tuza]

Would you say David Icke and the rest like him that come out to awaken people on the planet are too.

Bill comes from a scientific background and that is why I think he thinks very logically about some stuff, but besides that he is a searcher of the truth. Both Kerry and Bill are here to complete a mission, they have taken on that mission and against all negativity they are still on that path. I would be paranoid all the time about being followed or stopped from doing this if I was them, I am sure this comes into their minds, but it does not stop them from doing it. Kerry is a beautiful soul, I know this from personal emails to me from her when I first found Camelot and Avalon. She is just a beautiful soul and so is Bill. If I am wrong about this I will bare my bum in Myers window in Bourke Street, and that will not be a pretty sight for everyone to see believe me, not that I care, so don't let negativity about them enter your minds, it is the negative part playing with you.

Big kiss on nose and cuddle from Tuza for Bill and Kerry. xxx ooo.

[clarkkent]

they both just seem "good" to me (bill and kerry) for lack of a better word. Deceptive and "off" people i can just innately sense just by watching them. they both are very thoughtful and just want to provide honest discussion.

bill personally answered a question of mine in a very mature and kind way and didnt color it with his own opinion and allowed me to come to my own conclusion and follow my inner voice.

i certainly have my views about certain interviewees but for bill and kerry both i can only thank them for what theyve done, they risk their safety and spend money to bring us all these viewpoints and thats pretty awesome.

-k

[ranma187]

Someone once told me a simple google search would reveal bill and kerry as shills for the CIA. so i googled "project camelot shill for CIA". The search turned up not one accusation against them. I am satisfied they are for reals!

That person that told me that was baffon to think that. their claim made no sense.

http://stopgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/sense.jpg

[mwood82]

?

Do you believe everything people tell you? That doesnt sound very smart.

I have watched all of their videos and read much much information regarding 'fringe knowledge' and i come to my own conlusions based on the overwhelming compilation of information i have been privy to.

And yes, i think they are genuine.

I wouldnt be suprised if you were an agent for the NWO!

*takes thounge out of cheek* :lol3


p.s your wording their was very unusual.

I did not join this forum to be ridiculed, I think they are indeed genuine, but just bringing up the fact that the NWO is decieving beyond all measures, that is all. Unusual wording doesnt permit a negative comment, I feel insulted.

[NiceGuyEddie]

I dont doubt bill and Kerry's work one bit, I beleive they may be wrong about a few things (William Coopers view of the secret goverment is more close to my beliefs) but the most important thing they are trying to do is inform people of whats really happening in the world. This forum is also proof of that for people to discuss opinions and views freely without imposing there opinions on people or swaying people to beleive in there views.
Just ask your friend one question, "If there agenda is to disinform the public then why have they given us a platform to discuss our own opinions so freely without predudice"

[2infinityandbeyond]

I did not join this forum to be ridiculed, I think they are indeed genuine, but just bringing up the fact that the NWO is decieving beyond all measures, that is all. Unusual wording doesnt permit a negative comment, I feel insulted.

like attracts like, we are after all on a forum. Wording means everything.

[GodLover]

I don't trust John Lear. At least 50% of what he says sounds like lies.
I read Dan Burisch and cannot believe him either.

The whole theory of stargates is confusing, I don't believe grays or nordics are from the future. There's no past, present, future, we are living in the eternal now.

I find George Green to honest and trust worthy but again that's just my feeling.

[Orion11]

what is your gut feeling towards them? go with it.

my gut feeling towards them is very, very positive.

the world needs more of them imo. alot more of them.

*and besides...Kerry is cute to!! :wub2:
haha :bleh:
(your cute to Bill, no frets) :mfr_lol:

k sorry bout that. lighten up ppl, im playin around... or am i? lol :naughty:

Thanks Kerry, Thanks Bill.
all of you are beautiful, really. :wub2:
<3

[Dominic]

I would never question them. I think they should get praise for what they are doing.

The question that remains is in your own mind.

You must research and disassemble and reassemble the information for yourself.

The pieces of the puzzle will fit after you hear about the same thing from many other witness that have no ties with each other.

We all have a built in system inside us to help us feel the truth.

I use it all the time.

As far as being genuine I would say yes. They are producing interviews and information we would have had a hard time finding on our own.

They receive my highest praise, And I hope that they never stop looking for the truth and sharing what they find.

Cheers

[ophiuchus]

your not supposed to believe anyone! listen to what someone has to say and then do your own investigating. it's the only way.

[JSErwine]

IMO, I think the OP's question is a good one and not intended to offend anyone. I also think naming names is important, it prevents even further paranoia.

Personaly I think Bill and Kerry are sincere in their mission and like you and I are doing their best to fine tune their BS detecters.

I think it's realy important that everyone do their best to be honest, even if that means someone may get offended. This being said it's just as important for people to be open to positive criticisim. Beating around the bush only slows progress.

[elias]

TRUST YOURSELF, because everyone you see in the outer world is a reflection of you, if you trust that God will show you the truth then you will see it, so relax. Those who criticize others, have some problems within themselves, because they are criticizing themselves actually. No? BTW criticizing doesn't feel good, but admiring and praising feels wonderful. So let's attract the truth.

With much love and gratitude ....

[Bill Ryan]

But my freinds point was how can they be so blatant about where they have moved to and what they are doing without threat?

Hi, QueenOfLeon:

Please explain to your friend... :original:

We have no fear of the authorities. If we did, we'd not have been able to do anything we do. We'd simply have frozen to the spot and stopped ourselves after a couple of months.

Fear is (as David Icke says) a four letter word used to control people. We refuse to be controlled.

Our motto at Camelot is: the best place to hide is out in the open. That's why we publish our real names. We're SAFER that way. If we disappear, people will soon notice. If QueenOfLeon disappears - no-one will know, because that's not your actual name. I mean no disrespect here - and certainly don't wish you any harm! May we ALL remain safe here. But do you see?

So this is why we have made ourselves so visible.

Besides, you have to realize there's nowhere to REALLY hide... even if you want to.

The authorities know where we live already. They know all about us. They probably know what we just had for dinner. They know who you are, and where you live too. :original: They will know the name of your friend (if they want to) - and also details of all your conversations (again, if they want to).

They have the capacity to read every e-mail, whether encrypted or not. They can listen to any phone conversation at any time. They can eavesdrop on Skype. (We know this for a fact. A transcript of a Skype call was once handed to someone - a senior retired intelligence offical - I was talking about with a contact. The man was not amused.)

They can listen to any conversation you're having - through your cellphone - even if it's turned off. Only removing the battery will disable it as a listening device.

They can also (if they want to) listen to conversations you have with your friend when walking in the park, out in the open. I found this hard to believe until Henry Deacon explained to me exactly how they can do this (by picking up vibrations on the fibers of your clothing).

So I never try to hide. I never encrypt my e-mails - which only serves to REALLY attract attention. The NSA are hardly going to say: "Darn it, that e-mail's encrypted. So we'd just better move on and read the easy ones." :biggrin2:

I don't wear disguise, and don't have a false passport. :original: I just make sure I don't break the law. Kerry feels exactly the same way.

The only thing we don't (usually) do is announce publicly where and when we're interviewing a witness. Not because it might endanger us - but because it might endanger them.

We met with and interviewed Bob Dean again yesterday - and announced it here (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=21559#post21559) after we got the video "in the can". We'd had it arranged several weeks beforehand, but never made that public.

They could squish us like bugs... but don't do so. We do think we're protected, actually - both by benevolent ETs and by senior intel insiders (and we thank them here, assuming they're reading this thread!)

It amazed us quite a while back what we have been able to accomplish. The latest thing that's amazed us is this Forum itself, and how fast it's grown. We just do what we do, remaining thankful for all the support we get and the great privilege of meeting some of the people we do.

Very best, Bill

[Teresa]

whoaa, it must be getting late...
I thought i read the Title as th last word being: geniuses... instead of genuine

Yes, though, i do think they are 'geniuses' !



:wub2:

[SoldierOfTruth808]

I didnt even bother reading past the first post of this thread before I gave a response....well except for Bills response in the end, since it was the last post before I started writing this...and also because... No offense to Kerry... between the two of them ive really identified more with Bill and seen him as quite the diplomat and a trust worthy voice. I say that from my intuition of course.

Anyway, No I havent questioned whether or not they are "genuine". When I see tele-evangelists I question if they are genuine, but Kerry and Bill arent on TV collecting money and saying that what they are communicating is law. I see them and Camelot as a medium between the truth and myself, and of course it is up to you and I to decide if we are going to digest it as the truth or not. Ill tell you one thing, in my short sprint on this earth thus far, no information has struck a chord with me in the way that the information they put out has. I give myself alot of credit for being good at deciphering whether something is true or false... just like many of you give yourselves credit for the same. I actually think that all of us being very like minded...of one consiousness if you will, as we are is TESTIMENT to the genuine nature of what Bill and Kerry are doing. QueenOfLeon Maybe your homeboy just isnt ready, luckily alot of us possess enough compassion that we arent gonna let people who arent ready to swim or learn how, just drown. However, I also wanna say...before I go. I think its fu@kin awesome that this topic was brought up. It should be our major function to question and question and question again until we REALLY know the truth. If you were offended by this topic...you need to take a step back and think of how open your mind really is.

Aalooooooooohaaaaaaaa,
Roland K

P.S
I dont hide behind my name...I just like alter egos :biggrin2:

[Ofelas]

I think Bill and Kerry are doing a fantastic job, two people with nothing but an honest wish to find the truth!

and to be quite honest, they have put the money where their mouth is, dared to take what started out as a small side-project further than anyone else would ever consider, and actually made a bigger difference than most people that are merely observers and consumers in the world we live in today.

They sure has made a difference in my life when it comes to 'waking up' to definitive, certain aspects of the power structures, and I have been an active seeker for spiritual truth for 15 years.

[lightbeing]

Didn't Kerry say: "question, question everything"?

That is sound advice ! :original:

My guts tell me that these two, Bill and Kerry, are genuine in their intentions ! :thumb_yello:
They are doing a fabulous job !


Many blessings to Bill and Kerry! :harp:

NAMASTE

[bill7907]

Well said Bill.
We encourage you and Kerry to keep doing that job.

And there are so many witnesses that if anything happens, we will know that the Governement is the first one to take the accusations.
You got over 3 Million witnesses already.

By the way, when are you going to post the new Robert Dean video?

[Bryan Whyte]

The moment you say "Why doesn't ____ do ____?" or in this instance "Why doesn't TPB close down Project Camelot?" you have used your conditioned limited thinking to assume that you know the motives of another.

This is an arrogance if you believe you can understand a persons motives and even a greater arrogance if you believe you can understand the motives of a global organization.

This is the same argument "If there are aliens, then why don't they land on the White House lawn?"

Well, its because you believe that landing on the White House lawn is the most appropriate action for an Alien to contact us.

You have to stop assuming motives in other people that match your current understanding.

Entertain motives in others that you completely don't understand.

Most of the time, if it doesn't make sense, its because you don't have all the information when dealing with logical people.

[Zynox]

They have the capacity to read every e-mail, whether encrypted or not.

And hackers seem to have posted Sarah Palin's e-mail now on the web ( http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_Sarah_Palin_hacked ).

http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/300/family2-1.jpg

Only those that have watched the 4400 will probably get this humor:
"Don't **** off the baby".

Imagine the soul in that Palin prodgeny, wondering, just how strange the adventure may become!

It seems to me the only security that matters is purity of heart and intentions, then, regardless of where we tread, we do so with grace.


~ namaste ~

[Teresa]

It seems to me the only security that matters is purity of heart and intentions, then, regardless of where we tread, we do so with grace.


~ namaste ~


---

oh... Zynox that's a beautiful thing to say ~

(How funny, just about the same time as your post here,
i posted one at 'Spirituality'.... and I too, mention Palin, and souls....) ; )



PS--- Not only do i think Bill and Kerry are geniuses, I believe they ARE

'genuine' souls...... ! :wub2:

[OceanWinds]

read through the threads and havent heard this quote yet....

"actions speak louder than words"

And so far their actions and intentions have not been degenerative in the least... possibly misdirected by others, but who is to say.

Anyway their actions are exposing degenerative actions of some of the higher echelons. And this to me answers the origional question.

[HaveBlue]

And you know that it's a fool that plays it cool by making his world a little colder, Hey Jude ( all the paranoid folks here, you HAVE to trust someone sometimes. The Avalon/Camelot forums were always going to attract the mentally ill,the frightened and those that simply have no lives. Those that come here just to play 'ain't it awefull'!
Here's a new game. It's called ain't life great! Be glad that there are two selfless people that go around at their own expense finding things out that we would never hear about otherwise that are prepared to keep us the people that want to know,informed of possible and probable, definate and maybe stuff. They present it as they get it and don't try to inflict their slant on things like so much of the mainstream news. these folks and their friends risk their lives every day to do what they sincerely believe in,which is the right for us all to have certain knowledge.
Ungrates really should just not log on and browse here, let alone make thoughtless posts questioning the sincerety of its founders! Unbelievable how igorant my fellow humans can be! They're so igorant in fact,they just don't know how igorant they are!:lmao::roll1::roftl::lol3:

[KathyT]

I think they do a good job of not incorporating their own ideas, preconceived notions, etc in their work.

Not always so. I thought they were trying to lead Miriam Delicado into saying she was supporting the "ground crew" that Bill and Kerry are so much trying to promote. That wasn't Miriam's message, and I think she was being careful when she realized they were trying to put some words into her mouth.

[the sceptic]

Although, a sceptic, I don`t doubt Bill and Kerry`s integrity. Some of the stuff that I read on here I find a little "kooky". But hey, that`s all part of the fun. Keep up the good work Bill and Kerry and, hopefully we`ll find the truth.
:original:

[Jonah]

This site is a true source of information. It has changed many lives.

However,

Although the intention of Bill and Kerry is a positive one, it seems they may have just handed us over to opposition. Although this does not matter if you understand that we are all here to do what we are supposed to.

Doesn't stop the fact that many people may suffer because of this site.

[Jebins]

erm....a life lived in fear is a half lived life....damn the consequences and tell the world how you feel

[Jonah]

Agreed. And I feel that this forum is giving the PTB a pretty good idea of where to start.

Fearful I am not my friend. Just aware.

[freekatz]

"Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?"

Let's see here: Bill and Kerry brought us Project Camelot with many people expressing their different opinions and viewpoints on what may or may not be happening on our planet, so that we the viewers could digest this information and make our own judgments. Then they bring us this forum to meet and discuss and hopefully broaden our horizons even more.....now we're going to sit here and cast aspersions and doubt on their integrity, for what purpose? to perhaps create warring factions and split up the group?

I must have missed the part where Bill & Kerry announced that they were our new gurus and messiahs, silly me, all this time I thought they were just being kind enough to share all this information with me without wanting or asking for anything in return :hammer:

[Merlin]

I have thought of this myself.

Am I just giving my home address to those I would not wish to have it?

Does anyone know of anything we can do to prevent this, apart from the obvious like post only from web cafe's etc...

I mean, for my connection, I pay through the bank, the provider has my home address and mobile number....etc.....etc...its all there for THEM if they want it.

I feel like I've just kinda let THEM know who the enemy is and where I live ???????????

For those that will say "THEY wont be interested in you", im not so sure about that.

Merlin.

[Frank Samuel]

Surfing on the internet is monitor, the law applies to all communications network, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, Goggle, MSN, Yahoo,etc. They have to provided the info about websurfers entering into questionable groups. Now if you blame Bill and Kerry for getting on the goverments hot list no one force you to become a project avalon member. Just like all of us Bill and Kerry are searching for the truth outside of the main stream. I for one I'm glad they are brave enough to share it with us looney toons who love to question even the oxygen they breath. This my friend is the debate club, no pun intended. :tongue2:

[GoingToFast]

My gut-feeling about Bill and Kerry is that they are 100% genuine, but I also feel that they are just a tad naive, that does not have to be negative, naive can also be innocence and trying to see things without prejudice.

[Merlin]

Surfing on the internet is monitor, the law applies to all communications network, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, Goggle, MSN, Yahoo,etc. They have to provided the info about websurfers entering into questionable groups. Now if you blame Bill and Kerry for getting on the goverments hot list no one force you to become a project avalon member. Just like all of us Bill and Kerry are searching for the truth outside of the main stream. I for one I'm glad they are brave enough to share it with us looney toons who love to question even the oxygen they breath. This my friend is the debate club, no pun intended. :tongue2:

Yes, for sure, point taken.
I was not trying to blame Bill and Kerry, I've followed what they've done from the start. Just a general comment on the "hot list" as you call it. Can we do anything to avoid this? Can we block our IP? Im not to much of a tech head to know the answer to this.

Ta,
Merlin.

[peacelovinman]

I find this post interesting, more for the reaction displayed to it by certain members than the subject matter itself.

Firstly, my heart tells me that Bill & Kerry are genuine, though I still use discernment and intuition when evaluating the information given.

I must admit that, when I first was recommnded to Project Camelot by a friend, I "googled" the name and found a project of the same name had been carried out by the American military in the 1960's:

From Wikipedia:

"Project Camelot was a social science research project of the United States Army in 1964.[1] The goal of the project was to assess the causes of violent social rebellion and to identify the actions a government could take to prevent it's own overthrow."

That freaked me out a little though I never bothered to research any further to see if the Wiki information was factually correct.

The reaction by certain members posting here is interesting. It seems to me that certain individuals feel threatened by having someone question Bill & Kerry, as if their world view is under threat.

As stated in a previous post, I feel that we should be open to questioning everything. If you think the question has no validity, ignore it. If you wish to add your answer to the question, go ahead.

But to castigate someone for asking a question, just because it conflicts with your view of world, is dangerous, in my very humble opinion.

Peace to you all.

[Humble Janitor]

If I didn't think the intentions of the people who run projects camelot and avalon were sincere, I would have stopped reading long ago.

Instead, both sites have tapped into a curiosity of mine regarding the universe. This is why I keep coming back.

[Mr X]

I gotta chime in here. This is entertaining. I love when Bill said, "I'm not afraid of the authorities." I love that. His job is to deliver the information, just like he did for me.

I needed him so I approached him when he was author of SERPO. Long time ago, but it is when I needed him as an outlet. I didn't know what he would do with the information, but I needed someone who would LISTEN. Us wb's need that, because most of the time, it would be on deaf ears. He and Kerry provide us a service, and you all a chance to learn something you wouldn't ordinarily know. I love being the provider of truth. That is the only reason I do this.

I AM GRATEFUL FOR THEM BOTH.

If I hadn't said to Bill and Kerry, "That's not how I know it happened....," (referring to Serpo) we might not have project Camelot today. (or it might not have been what it's become today.

I just have one closing remark. If they are insincere, they are wonderful actors, and my hat is off to a great performance! Of course I am kidding....

I love you both Bill and Kerry. Thanks for loving the human race!:wink2:

p.s. the edit: I had to add this: those who question them are just fine with me. I have done all the questioning I need to. Just to me, they are genuine.

[malcolmpearson]

This is a very interesting question and should be asked. We do have to be sceptical of everyone, even each other. It shows we don't assume anything. I think the questioner is asking "Who are they working for?"

I have been following Bill's work on SERPO since day-1 and am genuinely satisfied that he is sincere and honest in everything he posts. Kerry has been bringing interesting work into the public arena on the Jerry Pippin site before focussing her skills and talents on the Camelot site with Bill.

This question has to be asked. We must NEVER believe anything at face value. Not even my response. However we can look at ALL information from as many different sources as possible and make up our own minds.

I'm sure that Bill and Kerry are only too aware that their work could be manipulated by 'the others' who thrive on dissinformation. They're not daft!
Together Bill and Kerry make a formidable team, both bringing their different talents and knowledge into the world's view. I for one am grateful to them both and long may they be able to continue their work.:original:

[scanner]

:welcomeani:Hi trust NO ONE thats what they tell us in some of there interviews

I don't know Bill and Kerry from Adam, and PTB already know who you are, In England the government has spent £12mil on spying on our phones internet and mobi phones . As far as I'm concerned Bill and Kerry have given to me so far and I thank them for that, when that changes then we'll see :thumbdown:.

If they are agents what a good job they have done so far.

love you all light beeing:wub2:

[Ethel]

They know of how they are being monitored by government, yet create Avalon. If something goes down in a few years, there will very likely be agents within some of the more prominent and perhaps less prominent 'safehavens'. Setting this Avalon up is an easy way for these agents to have a databank of those which possibly pose a threat for spreading info.

The best way to cover a lie is to mix it in with truth. That way the observer can find one truth and assume the rest. The reason why most of us come here is to learn more and to get informed. Being open to new ideas enables us to see from a new perspective, being mature enough to recognize which ideas hold true enables us clear knowledge.

I'm fairly young, but I smell something horrid in the making of our governments. I see in our news articles another series of setups taking place in the future that will completely reconstitute life on Earth.

[BooBear]

Hello. I have watched and listened to so many "truthtellers". Read books and discussed what or who is genuine or not. Who and what has any credibility ?
To be honest, I dont believe 50% from the get go. Then who is left ,I question to pieces. My conclusion is- probably 25% is the truth.
As far as Kerry and Bill, well, they are getting info out there so ,I cant knock them for that. Maybe they are being used by whoever. If so , they have fooled me. It can be frustrating .I do not like those who are cashing in though . xx:smoke:

[efields]

Too me, unquestionably Bill and Kerry are the 'real deal'. That said I DO wonder about some of the 'whistleblowers testimony'. There have been several 'dire' warnings from numerous sources lately that have been totally 'all wet'. It would not surprise me at all, if Bill and Kerry were viewed as 'useful idiots' by certain factions of the prevailing Overlords. They may be using this open forum to float various test scenarios, to see were they are in their progress in 'running things' or to see how well they are doing. It seems many recent 'warnings' have been just so much ca ca. Some of these folks may themselves actually believe what they have have heard whether from from an inside source or an external leak type source. This 'ENTIRE' Ground Crew, Radiant Zone etc End of the World feeling that most if not all on this forum have subscribed to may be just so much disinformation to simply 'out' the opposing party as a bunch of loonies, and sheeple. Now I don't think most of what we have heard from most of these 'whistle blowers' is credible at all. Especially from some of the more well known ones making a **** load of 'cash' from all this, living in Castles.. sheeesh. This end of times **** has been going around since Moses and guess what? Here we are! Now I'm going to move out if this country as I'm rather mad at the failure of our leaders and am embarrassed at the level of awareness on Planet Earth, not just the US but everywhere. I find the costs of living financially and morally,here getting more ridiculous every day, and seek a more comfortable and less complicated/corrupt life elsewhere closer to nature as Creation I believe intended.

Not that Other Countries are not corrupt, Far from it, they are just not big enough to enforce suffering on large swaths of the people of the planet, as this Empire does. All I might add in the name of Money, Power, and simple Greed. Also I know I'm not going anywhere, unless Creation wants me elsewhere, and allows my home to sell, in order for us to move. Wherever we are supposed to be we will be. If we need to rebuild our world from any 'upheaval' here then rebuild we will.

I would not put it past some bad things occurring. Actually I welcome the 'harvest' as I see it the only viable course of action for such a Broken paradigm as the collective's course has been for the last period of years.

I applaud Bill and Kerry for being the brave souls they surely are. I wish however, that they did not buy into the negative, fear inducing, gut wrenching, scenarios that they have been subjected to. I find it very, hard to take, that our Government is thinking any of what these supposed 'whistle Blowers' have been saying is coming 'any day now'. I have watched most of the interviews and read most of the transcripts. It's allot to take in and in the beginning I was pretty floored buy it all. But after a certain point, It started feeling pretty strained and bizarre. I feel some of their most famous 'insiders' have been led or furnished these various 'end times' timelines to facilitate a breakdown of the status quo. In order that 'they will have easier time seizing control on more obvious basis. They are tired of pulling the strings from behind the curtain. They feel they would like to see the light of day, and have 'respectability to boot. They are tired of being invisible.

That said this whole thing is reminding me of the last 'end of times' scenario, when the computers all would crash and we would be sent back the stone age. Yeah Right.

We need a do over in the worst of ways and I for one can hardly wait for some light to appear at the end of this rather 'dark Stinking Tunnel' We Have created or have allowed the 'dark ones' to create for us! It's time for a New Age folks. I think we all hope the next will be better than the last, but thats up to us as a collective. It won't be provided by great benevolent leaders. It has to come from US. I believe we will be up to the job. We will have to be, or we deserve what we end up with.

We need to realize our own power, and see the coming shift (if indeed its really coming) as a blessing and see the best coming, to mitigate the worst possible outcomes, or lesson them considerably. As David Wilcock among others have offered, It's up to us and most of us do not realize 'the power our thoughts have'. So we need to Stop being afraid and Stop seeing Death coming and all dying all over. We need to see a Beautiful World Waiting for us and needed transformation be as painless as possible. Don't give in to fear. We Are Safe. Even if we are asked to make the ultimate sacrifice, We are eternal. You Are Safe and forever in existence till you decide you know what you were created to find out, and desire to to be Creating with the Creation once again. We have nothing to Fear...

[Gnosis5]

I did have a question: Do the people they interview pay them for the interview?

Also, I believe that Bill is or was a Freezoner Scientologist and I was wondering if his aim is to do what they call "audit negative charge out of the 3rd and 4th dynamic", 3rd dynamic being groups one affiliates with and 4th dynamic being societies one is born into.

If that were the case then I should see them striving to bring us as a group up the emotional tone scale from fear or wherever we are at now up to something like strong interest or higher. I'm just not that familiar with that type of group processing, although I do believe in it.

[Silentsavant]

Trust no one but observe you must.

[peacelovinman]

Too me, unquestionably Bill and Kerry are the 'real deal'. That said I DO wonder about some of the 'whistleblowers testimony'. There have been several 'dire' warnings from numerous sources lately that have been totally 'all wet'. It would not surprise me at all, if Bill and Kerry were viewed as 'useful idiots' by certain factions of the prevailing Overlords. They may be using this open forum to float various test scenarios, to see were they are in their progress in 'running things' or to see how well they are doing. It seems many recent 'warnings' have been just so much ca ca. Some of these folks may themselves actually believe what they have have heard whether from from an inside source or an external leak type source. This 'ENTIRE' Ground Crew, Radiant Zone etc End of the World feeling that most if not all on this forum have subscribed to may be just so much disinformation to simply 'out' the opposing party as a bunch of loonies, and sheeple. Now I don't think most of what we have heard from most of these 'whistle blowers' is credible at all. Especially from some of the more well known ones making a **** load of 'cash' from all this, living in Castles.. sheeesh. This end of times **** has been going around since Moses and guess what? Here we are! Now I'm going to move out if this country as I'm rather mad at the failure of our leaders and am embarrassed at the level of awareness on Planet Earth, not just the US but everywhere. I find the costs of living financially and morally,here getting more ridiculous every day, and seek a more comfortable and less complicated/corrupt life elsewhere closer to nature as Creation I believe intended.

Not that Other Countries are not corrupt, Far from it, they are just not big enough to enforce suffering on large swaths of the people of the planet, as this Empire does. All I might add in the name of Money, Power, and simple Greed. Also I know I'm not going anywhere, unless Creation wants me elsewhere, and allows my home to sell, in order for us to move. Wherever we are supposed to be we will be. If we need to rebuild our world from any 'upheaval' here then rebuild we will.

I would not put it past some bad things occurring. Actually I welcome the 'harvest' as I see it the only viable course of action for such a Broken paradigm as the collective's course has been for the last period of years.

I applaud Bill and Kerry for being the brave souls they surely are. I wish however, that they did not buy into the negative, fear inducing, gut wrenching, scenarios that they have been subjected to. I find it very, hard to take, that our Government is thinking any of what these supposed 'whistle Blowers' have been saying is coming 'any day now'. I have watched most of the interviews and read most of the transcripts. It's allot to take in and in the beginning I was pretty floored buy it all. But after a certain point, It started feeling pretty strained and bizarre. I feel some of their most famous 'insiders' have been led or furnished these various 'end times' timelines to facilitate a breakdown of the status quo. In order that 'they will have easier time seizing control on more obvious basis. They are tired of pulling the strings from behind the curtain. They feel they would like to see the light of day, and have 'respectability to boot. They are tired of being invisible.

That said this whole thing is reminding me of the last 'end of times' scenario, when the computers all would crash and we would be sent back the stone age. Yeah Right.

We need a do over in the worst of ways and I for one can hardly wait for some light to appear at the end of this rather 'dark Stinking Tunnel' We Have created or have allowed the 'dark ones' to create for us! It's time for a New Age folks. I think we all hope the next will be better than the last, but thats up to us as a collective. It won't be provided by great benevolent leaders. It has to come from US. I believe we will be up to the job. We will have to be, or we deserve what we end up with.

We need to realize our own power, and see the coming shift (if indeed its really coming) as a blessing and see the best coming, to mitigate the worst possible outcomes, or lesson them considerably. As David Wilcock among others have offered, It's up to us and most of us do not realize 'the power our thoughts have'. So we need to Stop being afraid and Stop seeing Death coming and all dying all over. We need to see a Beautiful World Waiting for us and needed transformation be as painless as possible. Don't give in to fear. We Are Safe. Even if we are asked to make the ultimate sacrifice, We are eternal. You Are Safe and forever in existence till you decide you know what you were created to find out, and desire to to be Creating with the Creation once again. We have nothing to Fear...

Congratulations on a well thought out post. I agree with you 100%, sir!

[RSF]

I'm not sure there's a better Forum around. B&K are responsible for bringing a whole bunch of truth through their work and interviews they conducted, opened a Forum to keep the public aware of things we may not have known or considered. Personally, I'm absolutely absorbed w/Project Camelot. Really great work Guys and Gals !!

Tip of the Hat to You.
RSF

[Pomguymguy]

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups !

Since we are all here Now - It is quite amazing how many experts there are posting opinions. Before Bill and Kerry came on the scene most of us were living the BIG LIE, like most of the planet.(still is! - no need for details here, I presume?)

Now all of a sudden WE ALL seem to have all the answers, don't we !

We are now being presented with so much genuine information, that does require careful consideration, which so many of us took for granted or never ever even considered before. As far as most of us were concerened life was as it was. Now it is apparently NOT SO ?

Whatever is throw our way from the spinning blades of the BIG FAN - we will deal with it, one way or the other ! !

The most important thing that seems to come to mind is -

Look Inwards (Inside Yourself) For ALL the Answers -:thumb_yello:

We have tried the other way and look at the mess we find ourselves in !:mfr_omg:

Paul R

[beauwalton@rocketmail.com]

I know Bill, he is genuine, believe me.

[PodWORLD]

I don't see where the genuine part comes into it. They interview people, let them talk and everyone can judge for themselves.

They have then provided this easy to use forum which has a million opinions and viewpoints. In fact some of the posters seem far more inclined to move opinions in a general direction. And are free to do so.

With each passing day this forum more and more resembles the world at large. As the population increases so the number of moderators increased until now they have a hierarchy. In the general population are people of all ages and beliefs getting along or not getting along, some trying to dominate proceedings, some trying to make a buck.

And the creators? Now some label them false gods and perhaps due to this or other considerations they will fade into the ether and legends will spring up that one day they might return....

[firefly]

Yes, I am concerned afterall the cost of a website like this does not cost peanuts. The names Camelot and Avalon are much entrenched in the Europian and UK Illuminati. The Windors' are priming Prince William to be another King Arthur. I feel we must be cautious when giving information about ourselves and where we live. Ive already been hacked since joining this forum. I have watched the various interviews by Bill and Kerry, and I ask myself 'who is paying them and how are they earning a living ' in order to travel the globe.? Just a thought!

firefly

[Consciousness]

I do like the honesty of this forum, I'm glad I joined. :original:

Regarding the point in hand:


To say that Project Camelot (B&K) is not genuine would surely mean a loss of interest in it, right?

Proof, evidence or convincing argument aside, I am happy to announce myself firmly on Bill & Kerrie's pro integrity campaign. :nono:


Almost any one of the WB's testimonies would be enough to keep my attention, so if only one of them is true, it is worth watching for the next truth to be revealed.

Ask yourself this, if you were film/interviewing a whistleblower and wanted to extract the most pertinent information, would you ask questions that Bill or Kerry do not?


This thread I believe, has shown that we can continue to have confidence in project camelot's "dynamic duo" because (if nothing else) of the very lack of evidence that they are anything but genuine.

Their interviewing & film making skills (which I believe is more to do with the cause of this thread) will I'm sure improve the more they get to do them.

However when reporting on this sort of material the content is always going to outdo the quality.


Namaste.:thumb_yello:

[goody8504]

I know Bill, he is genuine, believe me.

i would hope you wouldn't want anyone to believe you just because you say so. quite the contrary, i tell people 'don't take my word for it. find out for yourself.'