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QUESTINY
09-22-2008, 04:31 PM
How many people would like to join us in an experiment. We would like to find a way to use our consciousness to positively influence a public figure to release the truth or a secret that will help humanity. I would like to influence the power brokers to release the suppressed alternative energy technology. Specifically the Electric Coheres! This would benefit humanity is great ways.
If you have any ideas, let us discuss it here! Thank you for your interest in this great endeavor.
gordon
09-22-2008, 04:40 PM
Questiny! SuperHero, Leader of the underground cult...Mission: To save the world.
You want to know the sad news, Questiny? (I do not mean to upset you in anyway)...The problems is apart of life. WW3 will happen. A huge meteorite will hit the earth. Billions and billions of people will die. The _only_ way to "affect" the balance of the system is to ask God. Maybe remoteview for God, and have a chat with him? Sorry, I personaly think that asking God is the only way to change what is, and what will happen.
The problems is apart of life. WW3 will happen. A huge meteorite will hit the earth. Billions and billions of people will die. The _only_ way to "affect" the balance of the system is to ask God. Maybe remoteview for God, and have a chat with him? Sorry, I personaly think that asking God is the only way to change what is, and what will happen.
:shocked: Where did that come from?
I for one am all for a positive consciousness/intention experiment! :trumpet:
The way I see it, we would basically need to pick one **VERY SPECIFIC** intention, decide on a sort of 'mantra' (or pattern of focus for all to follow), and decide on a time to synchronize.
gordon
09-22-2008, 04:58 PM
Only a few few people in the history of the world who HAS seen God. I know what I am talking about. Why did I seen him? That is a "secret".
chelmostef
09-23-2008, 10:30 PM
I think this is a great idea!
If we could focus thoughts for a positive infulence on a member of the secret society to disclose or illuminate what they are up to? hidden technologys? The Electric Coheres, Zero Point Energy would be earth changing.
Woud this be for future time? or say just before they where about to air on live camera for instance?
Sherab
09-23-2008, 10:36 PM
I agree with the general intent, and think it's something that should be done. But I would propose taking it one step further. Why not habituate ourselves to living with positive intention toward all human beings, all the time? Do you all think this would "cover all the bases" and be much more effective (not rhetorical, I am actually asking)?
whitecrow
09-23-2008, 10:39 PM
I think this is a great idea!
If we could focus thoughts for a positive infulence on a member of the secret society to disclose or illuminate what they are up to? hidden technologys?.
Woud this be for future time? or say just before they where about to air on live camera for instance?
I am so down for this. The way I see it, we should keep our concentration narrow, on a single individual. Rather than focus on a specific issue, I wonder if it should be simply The Greatest Good.
And to the doubters...(I don't mean to upset you in any way)...it's an experiment. When do we start?
chelmostef
09-23-2008, 10:42 PM
With maybe a picture of the person? Does a picture help?
Operator
09-23-2008, 10:48 PM
Hi,
I think it's a great idea !
You know what happened yesterday ? Just before the forum was closed down for maintenance I realized that if things like
web-bot are accurate an successful there must be an explanation ! And I think it can be explained !
I am a software developer and I program websites. I also optimize websites so that they are easier found by Google etc.
So if one understands how search bots are working ... the web-bot is working likewise ... data mining ... of course !!
If you can find out what people are talking about most you find out apparently what they want most (basically).
Then I realized we talk a lot about war etc. etc. here which makes the forum look like we want one. Likewise some people
state clearly oct. 14 is not going to happen etc. We should STOP that and express 100 times it IS GOING to HAPPEN ... period.
This is the only way we can make it happen !!
10 minutes after I realized this I wanted to post a statement about this and I found the forum closed with Bill's statement.
So my wish or thought had immediate effect (worked for me).
So YES let's create positive occurrences ...
Let October 14 happen and let's create those great communities !
Cheers !
2infinityandbeyond
09-23-2008, 11:06 PM
Oops, in my excitement i didnt read past the first sentance lol.
Yup, im definitly in! I know that if you send love to a known reptilion figure whilst he is speaking publicly he will start to get very aggitated.
I know it will work, so im in.
QUESTINY
09-23-2008, 11:10 PM
Pictures would benefit to help focus our energy. But we must first decide what it is that we want to positively influence. It must be specific.
Gnosis5
09-23-2008, 11:27 PM
Yes, with a picture we might be able to give him a remote session -- worth a try.
With maybe a picture of the person? Does a picture help?
2infinityandbeyond
09-23-2008, 11:31 PM
Something that could be monitered would be good to start off with. Like..
A public speaker that we know has hate in his or her heart. Send them love and watch to see what they reaction will be.
I dunno, my brain is slow now, i might have better ideas in the morning.
Nite
Well, here are two possibilities:
-- The upcoming Congress *evaluation* of the US economic bail-out
-- POSITIVE public confirmation of the Oct.14th event (i.e., on news channels)
Images for focus would definitely be good. And I still think that the more specific the focus, the better! :)
Gnosis5
09-23-2008, 11:40 PM
Remind me to do that as soon as I habituate myself to living with positive intention toward my husband, all the time, LOL
I agree with the general intent, and think it's something that should be done. But I would propose taking it one step further. Why not habituate ourselves to living with positive intention toward all human beings, all the time? Do you all think this would "cover all the bases" and be much more effective (not rhetorical, I am actually asking)?
Operator
09-23-2008, 11:52 PM
King Lear had nice mock ups for October 14th ... !
Well, here are two possibilities:
-- The upcoming Congress *evaluation* of the US economic bail-out
-- POSITIVE public confirmation of the Oct.14th event (i.e., on news channels)
Images for focus would definitely be good. And I still think that the more specific the focus, the better! :)
I just realized that the first one is not really in line with the original poster's intent! :original:
Rephrased:
-- Public confirmation of corruption and manipulation behind the scenes, and a statement about the need for an entirely new system (or old, if going by Ron Paul's ideas). Again, public, positive, news-covered.
King Lear had nice mock ups for October 14th ... !
That would actually be rather perfect... the fact that they are so amusing may help in keeping the focus!
Love/Light 13
09-23-2008, 11:55 PM
Q-
Well Secretary Paulson would be an obvious choice, because it seems he is gonna have a lot of power in the immediate future. If Ron Paul really knows as much as some say he does, maybe we should work on him and try to get him to really throw his weight around. Great idea for sure.....
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may WISDOM guide COMPASSION
"out of MANY, we are ONE"
OceanWinds
09-24-2008, 02:28 AM
QUESTINY... good motivation
I think if this is to happen... we need to work it much like your Remote Viewing. Because peoples perceptions could taint the experiment.
So perhaps giving a symbol for something that you choose, and then everyone doing something like feeling love in their hearts for this symbol understanding your intention.
IE lets say you chose a top world illuminati figure to extend love into... so they wouldnt feel the need to control. This would work well.... except everyone has a dark view of the illuminati. So the negative perception would taint the love extended.
Instead choose a baby tiger cub with a fuzzy blue collar and extend love into him. Watch him play, and suckle from his mom... which we would deem its source. This would lead to powerful changes.
As for a way to measure something we can influence... how about birth rates in a certain city for a month. Doesnt have to be in America... could be anywhere in the world the reports the monthly birth rates online.
DoctorTony
09-24-2008, 02:41 AM
How many people would like to join us in an experiment. We would like to find a way to use our consciousness to positively influence a public figure to release the truth or a secret that will help humanity. I would like to influence the power brokers to release the suppressed alternative energy technology. Specifically the Electric Coheres! This would benefit humanity is great ways.
If you have any ideas, let us discuss it here! Thank you for your interest in this great endeavor.
I think this is a fanstastic idea. I personally would love to see this free energy come to fruition soon. It would actually create a lot of jobs. We can start with key members of the oil conglomerate. Any big wigs you can think of? We can focus on them first.
:trumpet:
empathy
09-24-2008, 07:20 AM
So who are the candidates for this experiment? Someone has to start naming names.
empathy
09-24-2008, 07:28 AM
Q-
Well Secretary Paulson would be an obvious choice, because it seems he is gonna have a lot of power in the immediate future. If Ron Paul really knows as much as some say he does, maybe we should work on him and try to get him to really throw his weight around. Great idea for sure.....
*******************
may WISDOM guide COMPASSION
"out of MANY, we are ONE"
I am sure the have Dr.Paul's conscience wire-tapped 24/7 they probably just turn him off.
And Paulson is just a puppet.
We should be more practical.... Someone who can be taken seriously and can get away with it long enough for it to actually be heard....
maybe..... Yes it's coming to me know!
Sarah Pallin!
peacelovinman
09-24-2008, 07:45 AM
I would support this effort, as long as it involves sending loving wishes and intentions to the individual selected.
This may sound zany but here goes...over the last couple of days, I've had the feeling that Geroge W Bush is crying out for help. I was meditating the other day and saw GWB in the ovall office, literally pleading for some kind of assistance. Yesterday, in my mind's eye, I saw him and his father talking; his father was attempting to brow beat him into keeping it together for all their sakes.
Anyone else felt anything like this?
Frank Samuel
09-24-2008, 09:38 AM
you hit the nail in the head GWB since no one wants to shine the spot light on him.He does not want to go out with the finger pointed at him for all the ills of america and the world. Yeah I also felt he's crying for help. Good one...:thumb_yello:
GWB is a good idea :original:
Carrie Todd
09-24-2008, 02:05 PM
I have, in fact, felt that GWB seems like an addict who has hit rock bottom. He has been, somewhat strangely, out of the public eye lately as well (or at least out of the media). It seems as though he has gotten in over his head and would possibly welcome some spiritual support, as well as, a powerful positive ending to his candidacy.
chelmostef
09-24-2008, 04:59 PM
So How is the best way to go about this?
We could try different people for different sessons maybe? I was thinking Gordon Brown might be susceptable, he is having trouble with his premiership. I think he does care a least a little bit, and free energy would ensure his time as prime minnister.
And a picture would help us focus on them? I suppose Its what the induvidual finds best to focus on?
And whats the message we send? I think love is a little broad, maybe somthing a bit more persific? Maybe we could try different messages for different sessons? Is guilt the wrong message to send? I was thinking somthing like "expose the secrets you know, It will be ok, we love you"?
Whats the best way to get a strong message across? Dark room? relaxed? Relaxing music? Is it like meditating?
And should we take into account time zones? To ensure maximum participents, I am the Uk.
Hank Paulson is also a good call, he is in the news a lot at the moment.
gordon
09-24-2008, 05:28 PM
If you have any ideas, let us discuss it here! Thank you for your interest in this great endeavor.
Pay It Forward.
Questiny! SuperHero, Leader of the underground cult...Mission: To save the world.
You want to know the sad news, Questiny? (I do not mean to upset you in anyway)...The problems is apart of life. WW3 will happen. A huge meteorite will hit the earth. Billions and billions of people will die. The _only_ way to "affect" the balance of the system is to ask God. Maybe remoteview for God, and have a chat with him? Sorry, I personaly think that asking God is the only way to change what is, and what will happen.
i dont feel this is true at all Gordon ...
There are diferent timelines we can co create together something much better ..
Maybe we are all God .. parts of God .. have you thought aboutthat ?
iainl140285
09-24-2008, 06:42 PM
I would support this effort, as long as it involves sending loving wishes and intentions to the individual selected.
This may sound zany but here goes...over the last couple of days, I've had the feeling that Geroge W Bush is crying out for help. I was meditating the other day and saw GWB in the ovall office, literally pleading for some kind of assistance. Yesterday, in my mind's eye, I saw him and his father talking; his father was attempting to brow beat him into keeping it together for all their sakes.
Anyone else felt anything like this?
Well observed, I too have felt this. I feel he is honestly ready to walk even tho he has so little time left.
I think he would be a good target. Only question is when?
Iain :)
QUESTINY
09-24-2008, 07:10 PM
http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/david_rockefeller3.jpg
We the workers for truth and light ask the Universe for support in our endeavor to have David Rockefeller and those with knowledge who are in league with him to release the technology of the Electric Coheres that has been kept in secret until now that will help humanity. We promote with the assistance of the Universe to bring forth the technology behind the Electric Coheres to be shared with the world. This technology must only be used for the good of humanity. We ask the Universe to safe guard this technology in the hands of the workers for truth and light.
Gnosis5
09-24-2008, 07:58 PM
When we surrogate process someone we start the session by asking them what is troubling them and then help them to discreate the negative energies in regard to whatever they say is troubling them. This works for everyone because even the bad guys are going against their own nature, imho. You should see how relieved they feel when they can finally forgive themselves. This is the most winning way for everyone. The question is, who should we start with?
So How is the best way to go about this?
We could try different people for different sessons maybe? I was thinking Gordon Brown might be susceptable, he is having trouble with his premiership. I think he does care a least a little bit, and free energy would ensure his time as prime minnister.
And a picture would help us focus on them? I suppose Its what the induvidual finds best to focus on?
And whats the message we send? I think love is a little broad, maybe somthing a bit more persific? Maybe we could try different messages for different sessons? Is guilt the wrong message to send? I was thinking somthing like "expose the secrets you know, It will be ok, we love you"?
Whats the best way to get a strong message across? Dark room? relaxed? Relaxing music? Is it like meditating?
And should we take into account time zones? To ensure maximum participents, I am the Uk.
Hank Paulson is also a good call, he is in the news a lot at the moment.
Gnosis5
09-24-2008, 08:02 PM
Bush, Jr. has more love for his children and he knows at some level what he is allowing to happen to them. Yes, I think he is overdue for some relief.
Well observed, I too have felt this. I feel he is honestly ready to walk even tho he has so little time left.
I think he would be a good target. Only question is when?
Iain :)
Gnosis5
09-24-2008, 08:04 PM
Would you please post a nice big photo of him here (without the moustache), thank you.
GWB is a good idea :original:
conjuredUp
09-24-2008, 08:05 PM
Isn't intentionally swaying someone messing with their free will?
Just asking...
Will we ask their higher self for permission, or something?
I am all about intending the love and health, but only with permission.
LOVELOVELOVE,
C
Jnana
09-24-2008, 08:11 PM
An opportunity presents itself - big speech tonight (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/24/bush.bailout/index.html).
Well, seems QUESTINY took the initiiative! :original:
Shall we start with this? Let us pick a common time - or several, to make sure everyone can get a chance to synchronize with several members.
If many people are up to it, we can also focus on GWB in separate sessions...
http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/david_rockefeller3.jpg
We the workers for truth and light ask the Universe for support in our endeavor to have David Rockefeller and those with knowledge who are in league with him to release the technology of the Electric Coheres that has been kept in secret until now that will help humanity. We promote with the assistance of the Universe to bring forth the technology behind the Electric Coheres to be shared with the world. This technology must only be used for the good of humanity. We ask the Universe to safe guard this technology in the hands of the workers for truth and light.
An opportunity presents itself - big speech tonight (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/24/bush.bailout/index.html).
Yes, I just noticed this also... Only a few hours to go if we want to send some energy for this event!!! Anyone up for that? :trumpet:
Gnosis5
09-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Yes, intentionally swaying someone might be doing to others what you would not like done to yourself. When we surrogate process we always request the permission of the higher self of that being and the higher self presents what needs to be looked at and discreated in the negative energy field of the identity the higher self manifests.
We do not intend anything against the intentions of spirit: The person will still go through whatever he caused. He will simply be able to make better decisions and have a freer range of expression concerning the issue that he presented in the session. He will be a degree further towards being his real self and following his real joy imho.
Isn't intentionally swaying someone messing with their free will?
Just asking...
Will we ask their higher self for permission, or something?
I am all about intending the love and health, but only with permission.
LOVELOVELOVE,
C
QUESTINY
09-24-2008, 08:25 PM
http://photo.itc.nps.gov/storage/images/officials/Officials-ImageF.00001.jpeg
We the workers for truth and light ask the Universe for support in our endeavor to have George W. Bush speak the truth on the economic situation. We ask that he tells the world with his speech at 9:01 ET on September 24, 2008 the truth. To reveal the secrets to the financial world that will help humanity. This speech must be used for the good of humanity. We ask the Universe to remove all lies and deception from the speech given by George Bush tonight. We the workers for truth and light ask the Universe for the truth and the truth only to be revealed.
QUESTINY
09-24-2008, 08:30 PM
Here is my suggestion based on everyone's feelings. We are not asking for anything more than the truth. This cannot harm anyone on this forum or George Bush. I hope that all of you agree with this positive influence experiment.
100thmonkey
09-24-2008, 08:30 PM
Can someone who doesn't know how to meditate or channel, etc. join the effort, by just focussing attention/good will or something?
I was thinking Cheney, since he's in a similar position to Bush jr, but with more power.
Good job QUESTINY!
How shall we go about joining our collective intent?
QUESTINY
09-24-2008, 08:36 PM
Can someone who doesn't know how to meditate or channel, etc. join the effort, by just focussing attention/good will or something?
I was thinking Cheney, since he's in a similar position to Bush jr, but with more power.
Rockefeller is a good choice though, although I don't know what the Coheres device is...
Anyone can join the experiment. You do not need to be a pychic, meditator, or channeler. You must only have an intent to positively send energy to someone for the betterment of all. We do not want Karmic reprercussions. Only the truth to be revealed. At 9:01 when Bush gives his speech we will focus on the words:
"ONLY TRUTH IS ALLOWED TO PASS THROUGH HIS LIPS "
QUESTINY
09-24-2008, 08:36 PM
Unless someone else has a better Mantra than mine?
chelmostef
09-24-2008, 08:39 PM
Can someone who doesn't know how to meditate or channel, etc. join the effort, by just focussing attention/good will or something?
I was thinking Cheney, since he's in a similar position to Bush jr, but with more power.
I too have little experience :lmfao:, so could do with some pointers :original:
iainl140285
09-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Isn't intentionally swaying someone messing with their free will?
Just asking...
Will we ask their higher self for permission, or something?
I am all about intending the love and health, but only with permission.
LOVELOVELOVE,
C
Hi C,
I think if we can use positive energy to give someone the courage to make amends with their own consiousness, give them the extra energy they need to free themselves from whatever pressure/guilt they may be harbouring can only be good for them (and in the case of GWB the world!).
Im all for obtaining permission however, can you advise how we may go about that? Even if you just post me so i may use for future.
Feeling your love
Peace Out
Iain :)
Building on the above post, how about:
"WE GIVE YOU THE COURAGE AND ENERGY TO SPEAK ONLY THE TRUTH"
edit: my 111th post - a sign? :D
QUESTINY
09-24-2008, 10:10 PM
"WE GIVE YOU THE COURAGE AND ENERGY TO SPEAK ONLY THE TRUTH"
this is the mantra for tonight's speech
Considering his speech is already prepared, I suggest that we start a little earlier. :winksmiley02:
OceanWinds
09-25-2008, 12:03 AM
cool... I dont mind sending love and light to GWB or Rockafella!
And I think we should do it in our own ways... with our own special talents! And if people want to group meditate.. then so be it. And if others want to use affirmations or visualizations... or what ever on their own time then so be it. As long as the intent is generative I am game.
I am visualizing rockafella and gwb blissing out... in love with the planet. And as I see it, I am doing it... WEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Frank Samuel
09-25-2008, 01:01 AM
Focus people! We could get these two people to act base on inspirations gain with our positive influence experiment and let me tell you is working.
The experiment shows the power that the beings of light has bestow in our care. Lets use it wisely. The light of truth , compassion, humility, love will hit them like a bolt of lighting. It is time we here in project avalon begin to see the great things we can do for the world by uniting our hearts and minds. This is the secret use by all the great spiritual leaders and just leaders in history.:thumb_yello:
Frank Samuel
09-25-2008, 01:24 AM
The crisis that the world is in, in a sense is also our responsibility. Why ?
Because with our positive influence experiment we can change this world.
This has been the message I have receive since I have use of concious .Do
you think we have come together here out of a mere coincidence? Feel your hair standing up as I write these words. Nothing happens by chance. The spiritual power that each one of us has is infinite, believe me. I write these words praying that it touches the heart of those that read them.
You can make a difference it begins here and now. Let it be so !!!
This is powerful! Last night when I was meditating, I had visions of others around the world meditating also... people in all countries, children, old people, men in combat uniforms, media presenters, then world leaders too.. and then I saw George W meditating and the leader of Iran and others... and it just accelerated more and more until the entire earth population was focused together on light and love ~ and our beautiful planet was just aglow with it!
Then I come here to find this thread tonight, and see how others are doing this also, and I am SO in, yes there is something very very powerful going on here. And the hair HAS been standing up at the back of my head frequently now for two days!
:groupwave:
QUESTINY
09-25-2008, 01:33 AM
We'll if it worked, the truth is really dire. Bush had the deer in the headlights look.
Morgan
09-25-2008, 05:06 AM
Hi,
I think it's a great idea !
You know what happened yesterday ? Just before the forum was closed down for maintenance I realized that if things like
web-bot are accurate an successful there must be an explanation ! And I think it can be explained !
I am a software developer and I program websites. I also optimize websites so that they are easier found by Google etc.
So if one understands how search bots are working ... the web-bot is working likewise ... data mining ... of course !!
If you can find out what people are talking about most you find out apparently what they want most (basically).
Then I realized we talk a lot about war etc. etc. here which makes the forum look like we want one. Likewise some people
state clearly oct. 14 is not going to happen etc. We should STOP that and express 100 times it IS GOING to HAPPEN ... period.
This is the only way we can make it happen !!
I realised this as well, after learning more about the web bot! If we create our reality, and our thoughts become/are things, then holy cow no wonder all this discussion of negative events is potentially manifesting! I don't advocate ignoring, but if your energy goes wherever your attention is, maybe we should share some of our attention on making positive changes.
Way to go on this observation!
We'll if it worked, the truth is really dire. Bush had the dear in the headlights look.
Well, that was our first attempt. More to come! :original:
And yes, Morgan, a combined positive intent is essential! :trumpet:
chelmostef
09-25-2008, 03:29 PM
I have been thinking...
Perhaps Geogre w was telling the truth in his mind. Maybe in his mind there are two truths. The truth of how the main stream reality perceives the situations. The peoples truth. In Which things that have happened, have happened so he is kind of telling a truth. Perhaps he see the real reality a lie. The illuminati are not real, in his mind because no-one knows of them, The biggest most widespread opinion is in fact the truth becouse so many people believe it to be so.
I sure poor old geoge bush is easily confused with "But I am telling the truth going through his mind"
How we get him to break out of this I am not sure, maybe we have laid a foundation with which we can build on.
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