New Jersey

[bilderburger w/cheese]

are there any lurkers out there in central NJ?

[Kahunamahalo]

Not me, but cool name though...

[Proserpinian]

I'm in Central Jersey, perhaps if you disclose to me the town in which you are in then I can disclose my location

[bilderburger w/cheese]

thanks. :) a little levity with all of this gloomy stuff is always a good thing.

[bilderburger w/cheese]

proserpinian: im in jackson. i thought about not saying too much on the `net since its most likely being monitored by 'them', but screw it. i wont live my life worrying about it. if i did, they win. besides, im willing to go down if i can save/help several people.

[rustanddust]

signing in!

[Proserpinian]

wow, that's really close. I'm in freehold

[murnut]

Yardley Pa

[Big A]

mount laurel

[murnut]

mount laurel

Wow...used to work on Pleasant Valley Rd

[FrostyMcunicron]

Jersey in the house 973 representing!

[FrostyMcunicron]

Here to organize an NJ ground crew (& that may be what we see appropriate).

[Proserpinian]

theres about 3 of us in the central jersey area. the conversation is in the central jersey thread of the establisging communities area.

[GordonFreeman]

Welcome to the party jersey boys! Now what??
:gathering:

[bilderburger w/cheese]

greetings, new arrivals.

my suggestion is that we hang out here for a few weeks or so and await any more new jersey arrivals.

if we have a meeting, what topics would everyone like to discuss?

i believe the original intention of project avalon was based upon george greens wish to assemble us into groups and discuss the handbook for the new paradigm. has anyone read it? (i havent yet).

maybe we ought to list our fields of expertise and knowledge.

regardless of the conspiratorial extent in which one believes, i think that everyone here is aware of two things:

1. immenent change is on the horizon
2. we need to unite.

[Ceilidh_Madigan@yahoo.com]

I'm in the capital... Just the worst of the worst. Trenton was entirely set up to be maintained militarily in case of emergency, i.e. the road systems and bridges can easily be locked down. I can only hope there is enough forewarning of ACTUAL necessity to evacuate. Everyone here in central/south jersey should take care to understand that if checkpoints are ever established in a national disaster scenario, it's already too late for us, being a peninsula we only can reach mainland by bridge. This means everyone will flock north, and bottleneck going into NY state. I plan to keep my ear to the ground and wait for the most convincing piece of evidence to prove imminent disaster. Right now, the most concerning thing going on is our government's bailout of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae... if it weren't for tax money backing them, we would be in a global economic emergency, if not full collapse, this was stated on NPR. The thing is, we back them with US dollars, and if come sept. 30 the US dollar is found to be bankrupt... then that backing means nothing, and so the whole house of cards finally falls. Any thoughts on this?

[FrostyMcunicron]

No sweat now ima city slicker at <3 even if im in suburbia atm. Worse comes to worse the NJ represents team alpha & myself will air drop into trenton followed by a stealth rescue on u pplz from the mutant zombie squads.

Anywho, in a few weeks i am down for a meet up to discuss safe places, survival plans & networking possibilities. Id suggest a public park for a BBQ or a diner or something.

[bilderburger w/cheese]

C madigan: i dont think the NWO will be jamming martial law down our throats so fast. not just yet.

there are still way too many people for them to try and control despite the fact that this state has hired and continues to hire hundreds of extra cops all the time.

before they institute martial law, theyll need to knock a bunch of us off. expect a natural distaster (HAARP), a nuclear attack (via russia due to our support or assistance of israels pending attack on iran), or the avian bird flu, if youre a deagle fan. theyve got to cut our numbers down in order to control us. right now, theres just too damn many people. the FEMA camps cant hold THAT many.

the dollar collapse could wreak havoc on the economy, but i dont think its enough for people to start panicking. i think the pending dollar collapse could set up the amero fiat currency as our monetary system is restructured. in that scenario, FEMA camps wouldnt be used, but all of the police and NJNG would be around patrolling, keeping order and more importantly, acclimating us to their presence. obviously, like the TV tickers on the bottom of the screen that appeared on 9-11-01 that never went away, the police/military presence wont ever go away either. itll be permanent.

the best option in terms of a disaster scenario, in my opinion, is to head due west. the mountainous regions in PA are perfect for hiding out. thatll be after the economy collapses.

i think we have some time yet to prepare.

[SINGLE]

NYC Metro area i am ready to help
Also i suggest to creat call signs that can be used with any radio , like CB, ham radio, frs , i will start with mine MY call sign will be ( AVALON-NJ-1)

this way we can track the source of the comunity , and the state , and the id number .

if you have any other suggestion please share with us .:welcomeani: :welcomeani::welcomeani::welcomeani:

[MartyMcFailure]

hey guys im from nyc. but if u look at maps it may be more practical for me to throw my cards in with the jersey crowd as opposed to the upstate new yorkers. the city isnt very well represented on avalon it seems maybe i just overlooked it. anyway, i have worked with frosty on various sensitive projects before in the past and i can vouch for his commando credentials. he is also a master gardener.

[GordonFreeman]

alright folks, seems like we are gathering nicely here. I have not prepared anything for myself or my family yet (I just started reading down this rabbit hole a few months ago so I really haven't shared the whole story yet with my wife, she's taking everything with a grain of salt,) but what do you gentlemen suggest we prepare for immediately before we do the eyeball diner BBQ in two weeks or so, maybe like:

1. Begin hoarding fuel, or emergency provisions? What items?
2. Plan/rehearse for an escape route to a safezone? Where?
3. Get a firearm and prepare to go rambo? (I am anti-gun and not trained at all, but this whole apocalypse thing might just make me do exactly that!)
:gun_bandana:

[PriestOfLight]

Central Jersey Represent. Wall NJ

[MartyMcFailure]

have any of you guys seen the george green stuff with his demonstration of the free enegry machine with the magnets. maybe we should try and build bigger versions of those things. its actually all very simple. for starters does anyone have property in the pine barrens or anywhere isolated/ out in the sticks. i think we should set up a few little meeting spots. probably what we r gonna want to do is eventually get out of jersey to the mainland. that might be difficult if something goes down and there is chaos so some isolated hunker down zones should be established.

[seeing clearly]

WELL ! Greetings to so many neighbors.

I am in Toms River between Walmart and the Lakehurst Diner.

So what do we all do now?

please dont say a munchie.

Is there a lounge where members can speak w/o
the readership seeing our addys?

bun boy ! gotcha cheese robe on?

we can meet somewhere sort of mutually accessible?

if anyone is driving down from NY or Brooklyn
I can host one or two in my home if you bring a sleeping bag.

nice house clean shower & stove.

Witch in residence. :wink2:



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[Maialynda]

Hi,

I just moved to Newton, NJ (northern) and already feeling like a refuge. I used to be from NY state. I'm not sure if I am staying in this area or ex patting to Panama at this point, but I would like to communicate.

Maia

[ophiuchus]

i'm in north jersey if needed

[GordonFreeman]

OK fellas, given the economic situation, should we accelerate our timeline of activities?:gun2:

[bilderburger w/cheese]

hi new guys. welcome.

depending on the source of information, "things" dont happen until mid october. its my opinion that no war will break out until AFTER the election in early november. a false flag terror attack or, more likely, an international incident (iran or russia) is a likely possibility which will remind sheeple that we need the GOP in office "to protect our freedom". it also might come in the form of an economic collapse of the country. perhaps mccain will remarkably have a plan ready to fix it, setting up the amero or revamping the fiat currency, thus prompting sheeple to vote him in office.
the new war could also be the impetus to collapse our economy.

im figuring that after the election, things take a sharp turn for the worse. im expecting a war or some kind of military action to occur in the spring of 09.


FOR NOW: no panic is needed, but i submit that the following things should be done:

1. get a bunch of canned nutritional food (spinach, peas, beans, sardines, canned wild salmon, etc.). watch out for the MSG/autolyzed yeast extract... all garbage. cover all of your nutritional needs for carbs, protein, and vitamins. at some point in the future, there WILL be food shortages and food stores have only 3 days' worth of food in them. some bottles of multivitamins would be a good idea.

2. get some junk silver. apmex and tulving have the best prices, and apmex has bags of junk silver in smaller, more affordable quantities. in case the economy collapses, youll need the silver to trade. gold is great, but its not easily afforded.

3. water- i personally dont think its going to be an issue here in jersey, but ive stocked up on distilled water (the only water i trust) in my basement. the best idea is to develop some water purifying device like the watercone.

4. guns: if you dont have a gun permit, its going to take (at least in jackson) about 4 weeks to process it. THEN you can purchase one. depending on what your use is, you might want a coach gun (like a sawed off shotgun-- great for close range) or an AR-15 semi auto rifle or a simple revolver. you can buy a gun in jersey or go to guns america.com and buy one online. there will be transfer fees, but its much cheaper. if you get a handgun, get a taurus blued 357 magnum. very reliable and will stop anything.
the handgun permit/gun permit is about 60 bucks. gordon, im also anti- gun, but this situation requires it. youve got to protect your food/water supply. once the food runs out in the supermarkets, people will do anything to obtain food. and once its cold out, dont expect anyone to start growing any of their own vegetables.
PS: ammo is getting extremely expensive.
PPS: helicopters are apparently able to scan your house from above and determine if you have a gun in the home. so if you get a gun, hide it outside. vacuum seal it and bury it. theyve got vacuum sealers at sears or wal-mart for about 80 to 140 bucks.

5. im a big fan of colloidal silver-- i like the silver biotics brand. its got nanosilver in it thats very easily absorbed by the body. id get a bottle or two just in case there is some kind of epidemic thats set off. dr deagles site has 100% allicin pills which are supposedly excellent, but i havent purchased them. theres a product called MMS - sodium chlorite-- which supposedly is another type of cure-all, but im not familiar with that.
its my opinion that you get some kind of anti- bacterial/ anti-viral supplement. if the claims are true, youll be a survivor.


i think a weekend in the first week of october would be a good idea to discuss this. what is everyones schedule? ive got work myself all week long and on one day of the weekend, but i can move it around to a saturday or a sunday.

as far as an evacuation route is concerned, i think c. madigan was right. all roads will probably be blocked off by national guardsmen and state police. we wont be able to leave.

SO... at this point, we need to pay very close attention to the news and geopolitical actions of the country. thatll give us an inkling of what is in store for the future, and whether we are in for food shortages, a nuclear counterstrike, avian flu, or something else.
unfortunately, theres been too much iran/russia nuke stories for me to ignore.

in the meantime, we ought to stay vigilant and prepared. the NWO is running out of time to enslave us, and right now, theres too many of us to be incarcerated in FEMA camps. theyve got to wipe a bunch of us off before they can proceed any further.

i think it would be a good idea to state/post everyones field of expertise or knowledge in a given subject. im more geared to the nutrition stuff and know little about the free energy information. if we are going to collaborate, we need to find our strengths and have those with more info on a given subject educate those who are lacking.

just my opinion. :)

bb w/c

[Big A]

it is good to see everyone coming together like this and willing to help our fellow members out. i think that is a good idea if we could come up with a list of our skills/weeknesses. i have been following the financial markets for years, and this a historic time in history right now and its being down played like its no big of deal. one of the biggest things we have to worry about right now is when the physical year end for the gov, and country's start dumping dollars. not if but when this starts too happen we are going to see rappid deflation of the dollar then it will be too late. so now is def the time to start stocking up on you food/water/ammo. i cant stress that enough that now is the time to start acting for your preps, and we def live in the center of the action in nj.

[Big A]

anyone that is interested in the financial market or money management in philly there is a great radio station am 860, one of the shows on there is The American Advisor from goldline interational. this show will cut threw all the BS and let you know whats really going on in markets and he gets gets great
inside info from sources that you will never hear in the main stream news. you can also listen to it online.


http://www.goldline.com/market-news/radio-show.html

[bilderburger w/cheese]

big A: have you bought gold and/or silver yet?

[Big A]

i have some gold coins but no i have not bought a large quantity just yet. i have talked to goldline on the phone and have received several of there info packets.

[PriestOfLight]

1. Begin hoarding fuel, or emergency provisions? What items?

For food I have stocked up on wild rice and beans. It's the cheapest route I can think of. Fuel, I just fill the tank as often as I can. Might pick up a 10 gallon tank to extend the range of the car.


2. Plan/rehearse for an escape route to a safezone? Where?


Any where the poorer sections are not. The ghettos and the like. I would say any farm area. I don't know if this is possible, but moving to a remote place away from the park way and turnpike. I big worry over 30 years ago was that if something like this did happen, then people would come down off the parkway and ran sack the houses nearby. (Yes, people had ideas this was in the mix along time ago) The poorer sections are going to get hit the hardest.




3. Get a firearm and prepare to go rambo? (I am anti-gun and not trained at all, but this whole apocalypse thing might just make me do exactly that!)
:gun_bandana:

I have decided not to do the fire arm thing. I don't believe in taking a life. It's a personal decision. Plus, you get a gun they know you have it and will most likely visit you.

We really might have very little to worry about if the dollar is quickly replaced, and I think it will be if it does fall.

I have also bought a tent and sleeping bags. Going to stock on a few other camping items.

[stevensonfire]

Queens NYC here. I'll Stick with the Jersey Brothers and Sisters as Upstate is to far and NYC seems too busy looking for new jobs.

[stevensonfire]

what are the laws on Purchasing Arms (rifles) in in Jersey

[GordonFreeman]

Thank you all for the wisdom, I have yet to decide if I still need a firearm, as I think we all need to be more positive and provide help to those in need once the $ht hits the fan. think it is prudent to begin the preparations now for any emergency that may arise, so I will probably get some gold/silver by next week as the prices of these will surely skyrocket with the incoming demand. Let us keep our eyeball date towards the first week of october, but I strongly suggest not to go beyond that.

[GordonFreeman]

Alright people, we seriously have to get momentum in this. I have created a group where we can continue the conversation.


http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php


As BilderCheeseburger and Big A suggested, I have posted my strengths in it. I encourage everyone to join in order to maximize our success.

Thank you!

PRIME DIRECTIVE: To enable New Jersey and surrounding areas to rapidly ORGANIZE, PLAN and EXECUTE activities towards a Ground Crew for Survivability, Sustainability and Community

:groupwave::groupwave::groupwave:

[GordonFreeman]

BTW, the group name is:
New Jersey Ground Crew Network

here is the direct link:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php?groupid=36



Alright people, we seriously have to get momentum in this. I have created a group where we can continue the conversation.


http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php


As BilderCheeseburger and Big A suggested, I have posted my strengths in it. I encourage everyone to join in order to maximize our success.

Thank you!

PRIME DIRECTIVE: To enable New Jersey and surrounding areas to rapidly ORGANIZE, PLAN and EXECUTE activities towards a Ground Crew for Survivability, Sustainability and Community

:groupwave::groupwave::groupwave:

[Zenbuoy]

Fort:gathering: Lee




SHALL WE START A MASTER LIST OF NAMES & LOCATIONS?

[ophiuchus]

Hi everyone, essex county

[bilderburger w/cheese]

hi oph and zen....

time to get the ball rolling here, folks. get into the social room that gordon set up and lets figure out a concrete meeting date and make this happen NOW. the time is NOW. i wanna do this meeting this coming weekend if we get enough people.

side note: as panicky as everyone is becoming with the collapsing financial markets, im getting excited. i suppose im simply sick of the status quo in this country. it should be an exhilarating time in history!


[i guess my attitude is tempered by the fact that our souls will reincarnate after existing in this life in this body, regardless of what happens, so nothing is THAT serious. but hell... this is it! wow!]

[FrostyMcunicron]

ello mates! NJ all the way!

[GordonFreeman]

For those who hasn't joined yet, feel free to jump right in! Click on the link below.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php?groupid=36

:woot_jump::woot_jump::woot_jump:

BTW, the group name is:
New Jersey Ground Crew Network

here is the direct link:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php?groupid=36

[OnePissedOffSaint]

I share my home between Bergen County and Ocean :) Hey all!

[Argante]

Please list all New Jersey locations here.

[OnePissedOffSaint]

Lyndhurst, Toms River, Brick - sorry I was vague...

[zombiebbq]

i'm in northern nj myself, bergen county to be exact. not exactly sure if it'll be safe to stick around here if anything goes down...but i'm only 20 and don't really have the money to be able to pick up and leave for extended periods of times.(i currently live with my parents) Anyone else around my age and in a similar predicament? regardless i'm willing to help here and wherever in any way.

[Present Tense]

Freehold here. Peace everyone:original:

[bilderburger w/cheese]

present tense and zombie:

jump into the new jersey ground crew network so we can start planning a meeting. there isnt any time to waste anymore.

[GordonFreeman]

9/27 Web Meeting
Thank you Big A, Wizend, rustanddust and bildercheeseburger for attending our first very productive and successful meeting. I've sent each of you the meeting minutes and our agreed assignments. The dial-in will always be open at 10:00PM everyday for everyones use. I will dial-in on Wednesday to check on whoever will be on.

Face-to-face Meeting
As discussed, we have reached an agreement on a place and date to meet- hope you all could come, please let me know if your schedule changes so I can propose another date.

How to get involved
The group is always open for those who want to join in:
1. post here your intent to join, your strengths and ZIP
2. Join in and get involved in our New Jersey Ground Crew Network Group http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php?groupid=36
3. join our scheduled Web meetings at 10:00PM and our scheduled face-to-face meetings!

God bless everyone and God bless America!

[piscesTT]

hey, im new to the site, im from essex co, trying to make contact with people from jesey

[bilderburger w/cheese]

hey pisces:

welcome to the forum. most of us are in central jersey (monmouth/middlesex/ocean), and it may be a pain in the **** for you to come down here for meetings. if its cool with you, youre welcome to join.
theres several others from the north, like the bergen area and a bunch of people from the city. im not sure what you prefer.

regardless, youre welcome to get onboard in our online social group.

[FrostyMcunicron]

Whos repping north NJ?

[Guille103470]

Union Country here.

We should all seriously meet up somewhere and discuss all that has to be discussed in privacy.

[bilderburger w/cheese]

guille: all survival info can be found on this site, although any physical preparation you do is basically a waste of time. the only thing that matters is your freewill. change comes from within-- and thats how we win.

[Celtic_Man]

are there any lurkers out there in central NJ?

I'm in Somerset County. Would be interested in meeting up with others in NJ or surrounding areas to discuss the difficult task of preparing.

[Celtic_Man]

Here to organize an NJ ground crew (& that may be what we see appropriate).

I agree. Becoming more self-sufficient and preparing for whatever is coming. As time goes by folks are beginning to realize that this can only be achieved by forming a group where members can depend in each other.

Developing friendships and trust need to be done beforehand.

[Celtic_Man]

greetings, new arrivals.

my suggestion is that we hang out here for a few weeks or so and await any more new jersey arrivals.

if we have a meeting, what topics would everyone like to discuss?

i believe the original intention of project avalon was based upon george greens wish to assemble us into groups and discuss the handbook for the new paradigm. has anyone read it? (i havent yet).

maybe we ought to list our fields of expertise and knowledge.

regardless of the conspiratorial extent in which one believes, i think that everyone here is aware of two things:

1. immenent change is on the horizon
2. we need to unite.

Those 2 statements should be the priority of every American. In fact, should be a priority no matter where on the planet one lives.

There are many theories as to the who, what and why of what's coming. But I think we all know the when. I'm more in the Conservative camp, if you will seeing the main problem being the Globalist elite wanting an aristocracy. There are many glaring issues that present themselves as unquestionable evidence as to a planned breakup of American and other nations sovereignty.
Including the CRF, NAU, Outsourcing, Illegal Immigration, Bailouts for thieves and traitors, plain old greed, the Iraq War and no "WMD's" ad nauseam.

I'm skeptical but opened minded enough to understand that there may even be more nefarious intentions by those in power. For example, just 2 years ago I would have though the idea of "population reduction" was in the realm of "kookery". Yea, folks are greedy but could they be that evil?


After some time, education and introspection I came to the conclusion that being skeptical is a good thing but never close your mind to anything that comes along that may indeed be real.

In the end, no pun intended:original: one can see that preparing now is a prudent thing to do. Even officials in the government, financial arena and others are using the word "depression".

Many discussions on Survivalist forums now include the idea of folks coming together. Although many do nothing to make it a reality. Things are going to be vastly different than what happened in the 1930's.

One may wish to read of the events that occurred in Argentina during an economic collapse.

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=044387;p=1

Remembering that this was not worldwide and that Argentina was/is a relatively homogeneous nation.

[Celtic_Man]

hey guys im from nyc. but if u look at maps it may be more practical for me to throw my cards in with the jersey crowd as opposed to the upstate new yorkers. the city isnt very well represented on avalon it seems maybe i just overlooked it. anyway, i have worked with frosty on various sensitive projects before in the past and i can vouch for his commando credentials. he is also a master gardener.

Perhaps 2 separate groups with one in Northwest NJ for folks in NYC or Northern NJ and the other near or in the Pine Barrens for the folks in South Jersey.