safe areas in the UK?

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

any suggestions?

[Jacqui D]

Hi,
Hey eyes widw shut you live in a pretty good area i would say what about the caves,that would be good shelter against any on coming violent storms etc.
They were used in ww2 perhaps they will be used again who knows!

[Colin]

As far a way from coastal areas as possible (which means both of us should move!):shocked:

It would probably make sense to be well away from any military/industrial/chemical facility as well..

North Yorkshire moors or the Highlands of Scotland seems as good a place as any:original:

[Vicki]

:wink2: HI you two, I'm out in the wilds of Lincolnshire so I'm hoping things will be fairly OK here if it all goes nuts - it's a wide open county so you're welcome to run here if you need to.
Vicki

[Jacqui D]

The highlands of Scotland sound good to me,went this year very good place perhaps i was getting my bearings subconsciencly that is.
Plenty of fresh water,fish in the lochs could have a colony there and no one would know.

[Kate]

yep, I agree sidders..we have to trust our intuition and have faith that nothing will pass us by thats not meant to! I swing back n forth with various options..but am waiting daily to watch as events unfold..the right decision will be made by all of us when we know we have reached point of no return...for now, lets create a good solid community and keep the doors wide open with all possibilities whilst starting to take action that feels right...

[Pathfinder]

I agree S2 and F10 I’ve read scientific studies compiled over 40yrs from both sides of the world on near death experiences and reincarnation events to convince me that we choose our life before we are reincarnated, to learn from that life to aid in the development of the soul in terms of ascension to high planes.

As my Granny used to say “what’s for you will never go by you”

Always follow your gut so to speak your first feelings about anything always seem to be correct. Conditioning can cause one to fight what one really feels.

As for me I have been getting dreams about Australia as a safe haven as well as dreams about terrible events in Europe. For me anyway my instincts at the mo are to head south.

In an instance of synchronicity at exactly the same time as I was/am having these dreams I have had a surprise invitation from a family member of a work colleague to visit them and also with the possibility of a job. There is a lot to be said about synchronicity/destiny.

We all will make decisions rightly or wrongly based on the acceptance of this life we choose. These are the lessons we have already chosen to learn before we arrive as this life force.

We chose to be here today on this site long ago because of the benefits to others and ourselves we will gain from this experience. Some of us will have met before, kind of like meeting someone and liking or disliking right away. You have never met them before so how can you judge them unless perhaps you may have met them in a previous existence.

For me anyway I feel this is very positive. It can be very lonely knowing what people like us know you can only try so much and you always have to be a balancing act as to try and divulged info when appropriate but at the same time not sounding like the conspiracy nut in the corner.

I think I have the right balance well I live a “normal” life have friends; social life play sports still... lol etc… but don’t have anyone to talk to about the way of the World you get where I’m coming from.

It is going to be so good to communicate with like minded people, I propose a toast (with my mug of coffee) to the days ahead and late night brainstorming sessions and hopefully the good that will come out of them to help in some small way to bring the universal force into equilibrium.

May truth show us the way
Pathfinder

[Avid]

I agree S2 and F10 I’ve read scientific studies compiled over 40yrs from both sides of the world on near death experiences and reincarnation events to convince me that we choose our life before we are reincarnated, to learn from that life to aid in the development of the soul in terms of ascension to high planes.

As my Granny used to say “what’s for you will never go by you”

Always follow your gut so to speak your first feelings about anything always seem to be correct. Conditioning can cause one to fight what one really feels.

As for me I have been getting dreams about Australia as a safe haven as well as dreams about terrible events in Europe. For me anyway my instincts at the mo are to head south.

In an instance of synchronicity at exactly the same time as I was/am having these dreams I have had a surprise invitation from a family member of a work colleague to visit them and also with the possibility of a job. There is a lot to be said about synchronicity/destiny.

We all will make decisions rightly or wrongly based on the acceptance of this life we choose. These are the lessons we have already chosen to learn before we arrive as this life force.

We chose to be here today on this site long ago because of the benefits to others and ourselves we will gain from this experience. Some of us will have met before, kind of like meeting someone and liking or disliking right away. You have never met them before so how can you judge them unless perhaps you may have met them in a previous existence.

For me anyway I feel this is very positive. It can be very lonely knowing what people like us know you can only try so much and you always have to be a balancing act as to try and divulged info when appropriate but at the same time not sounding like the conspiracy nut in the corner.

I think I have the right balance well I live a “normal” life have friends; social life play sports still... lol etc… but don’t have anyone to talk to about the way of the World you get where I’m coming from.

It is going to be so good to communicate with like minded people, I propose a toast (with my mug of coffee) to the days ahead and late night brainstorming sessions and hopefully the good that will come out of them to help in some small way to bring the universal force into equilibrium.

May truth show us the way
Pathfinder

I agree - the Southern hemisphere in the 'tribal lands' will be 'protected' by some of our 'blonde' guardians, as the northern hemisphere is seen as a war zone for years, poisons, anarchy etc. However, the climate will still change, and there are apparently the 'safelands' - look 'em up on Google.....
Unfortunately, not all of us can go there due to family here, immigration controls, etc. I am so happy some of my rellies are safe.
My old parents laughed at me - but not as much now, my scientist partner of 25 years is a logistical person and rubbishes everything unless I can define all data, but slowly it is dawning....
So 1 step at a time eh?
Keep giving the pozzi vibes to the universe, I hug trees and talk to plants, I really love our planet - it's beautiful.
Whatever happened to the ancient 'cone of power' to pre-empt these evil forces in our greedy world.
Go lad - take your opportunities - it's fate...
We all have a path, I do hope I've done some good after lecturing for years, and helping people realise their dreams, and I have done lots of Reiki work and made people feel a bit better, but I feel a bit sad that my lifepath may be over soon due to the greed of the elitist minority.... I hope they rot in their underground hideaways and remember the innocents they sacrificed for their eternal damnation.

[christopherthomson]

I live in Glasgow, and since becoming aware that I might need to pack up some things and live 'wild' for a while, not having the resources for a proper re-location, I have been looking for a safe place within reasonable distance.

In terms of driving distance, shelter and isolation, I am looking particularly at the south facing slopes of Glen Lyon.

Certainly, central Scotland is the best place in the UK, given its vastness, lack of population, mountains, forests and wildlife.

Actually, I am just looking for an excuse to move there, it would beat Glasgow anyday. :original:

[PhyRoxin]

About two years ago, me and a friend got out an atlas to see what areas would be submerged if the sea level began to rise around the British Isle. We took the coloured geographic height references and roughly mapped out the safe areas taking into account flood plains, fresh water, proximity from the coast, proximity from major populaces etc. We settled on a few immediate areas; around Brecon on the Welsh boarder, Corwen North Wales, Cumbria, North Yorkshire and Scotland (which is just a vast wonderland of opportunities).

Apart from the dire consequences of an elite faction gone mad, I for one would like to see the outcome of a lot of aware individuals planning for these possible eventualities and the fact that this is now happening makes me feel warm inside :biggrin2:

[orwellsbud]

I don't want to come across as a doom-sayer but I personally feel that nowhere in the UK will be safe...Whatever comes our way, be it a nuclear strike, Tsunamis, whatever? For the simple reason we have nuclear power stations which if they go down, and they do quite rapidly I understand, if not maintained...then the whole country will become uninhabitable. It seems to me that wherever there is a nuclear power station in the world, if any kind of disaster hit's that particular area, then it will become part of the problem. In all the videos and books I've read not one has taken, this factor/variable into account?

Still, at least it's not raining...for a change :lmfao::winksmiley02:

Let's get prepared and see what comes our way, and we'll take it from there.


Peace & Blessings
OB:smoke:

[Zelphael]

The UK is pretty small. I don't think it will survive much of anything, should anything major occur.

[Jacqui D]

I'm with you on this one orwellsbud, no one is thinking about these nuclear reaction stations, like you say if they go down we have no chance anyway.
As England is such a small island we would be wiped out straight away.
So i guess England is not a good place to be right now.
But of course this is all speculation.
I live in hope that we will all be saved by the elders of our ancient world.
Be it human,alien we don't know what we really are anyway.

[Antaletriangle]

I agree with orwell's bud also-if anywhere The highlands of the bonnie place or central Wales but the brecon beacons seems a little suspect form Lt.col sc interview and james casbolt etc the underground base there.To be safe i think you have to take into consideration all possible calamities.
Flooding=high places
Martial law=out in the stix
Nuclear attack=mountains,stix
extra solar body=caves,with altitude
crustal shift-up the creek!!lol.
I don't know i think i'll end up staying in sunny stoke and what happens,happens-we are not physically immortal;not being defeatist just ride it out.I'm at 600 feet above sea level but 2 miles from a city?I will go with the flow; stock up on snappin' i have a coal fire anyhow so cooking and warmth no probs. unless we have a supercell storm and we are supercooled like the woolly mammoths? crikey charlie!! axe and shovels etc all in the garage for choppin wood.
I'm not that concerned and i suppose i should be really; my HEART is not the least worried-i have always been practical and have engaged in manual work alot of my life;so hard labour for food and shelter is no problem wherever i end up.To be to the point i'm not afraid of death-it's a beginning.What concerns jack is how we are treated in this plane of existance-i would die happy if i knew there'd be something we'd left behind a legacy for good people to work on.i hope i'm not coming across as depressing cos it isn't.Thanks for the post i've been thinking and searching about this a while now.I was trying to find maps on the net that may have been redrawn already by geologists/geographers after a potential world flood scenario but i can't find any.Can anyone help on that score-new maps pointing out high risk areas.I know where i am if the water rose to 300 feet above current sea level then about 3 miles from me would be the beach!!hurray!lol.

[CloudNine]

How about one of the small Scottish islands?

Of course you'd need a medic in the crew and a fast boat.

[Jamie]

Has anyone talked about the slowing/stalling of the Atlantic Conveyor Belt? They have already noticed a slowing of the belt, and if the Conveyor belt stalls or even slows enough then this could cause a mini ice age that would have huge impacts on Northern europe.

Look up what happened during the last mini ice age.

If the Conveyor belts stalls, then the only safe place in europe would be the south of spain onwards.

During the last mini ice age, icebergs were seen as far south as Portugal!

[Flashback]

I don't want to come across as a doom-sayer but I personally feel that nowhere in the UK will be safe...Whatever comes our way, be it a nuclear strike, Tsunamis, whatever? For the simple reason we have nuclear power stations which if they go down, and they do quite rapidly I understand, if not maintained...then the whole country will become uninhabitable. It seems to me that wherever there is a nuclear power station in the world, if any kind of disaster hit's that particular area, then it will become part of the problem. In all the videos and books I've read not one has taken, this factor/variable into account?

Your right! This is the most important factor for everyone to take note of.

The whole of the British Isles would be contaminated by radiation.

Does anyone know of any uk areas that would be exempt? I remember as a kid reading a book called Z for Zacharia - I vaguely remember the story of a person trapped in a valley due to radiation. The valley was so big it had its own weather.....or something like that.

Also, remember Boriska. He said that Moscow will be underwater in 2009. Regardless if he is right or wrong think about it. For Moscow to be underwater, where will the water come from? It has to be from the North, North East or East. This is would mean that either there is going to be a massive fast melting of ice or a Massive Tsunami.

I think the UK could be a place simply not to be.

I have kids and a family here, I cant just get up and leave the UK based on 'hearsay' but if i had the money I would - just to see how the next 4 years play out.

What do you guys think about the Boriska prediction?

If there is any place safe...i think its high ground!

[ICF_Wax]

Places to get High:- SouthEastUK

The North Downs.
The Weald. (PORC).
The South Downs.
Marlborought Downs.
Hampshire Downs.
Berkshire Downs.
Chiltern Hills.

Quick ready made Cave/Shelter = Motorway Bridges

Two Questions
Ireland?
Refugees?

[Kraven]

I tend to agree that depending on the beast there is little chance that the UK will be a 'safe' place.
Then again I also don't believe it will be left under water.

My story...
When this whole mad persuit for knowledge began for me it was like the plug had been forced out from my mind. This whole thing started when I returned to The Lake District with a friend after frequently going there on holidays with my family when younger. The decision to go was very rushed yet seemed perfect to us both at the tme. Since that trip, for no good reason and all at once, I literally could not stop myself from researching topic after topic. Before this time I'd never read a single book. This came with the help of no obvious catalyst except my deep love for the beauty of the place, coupled with a sudden burning curiousity. As the tree grew more and more branches and i started to see how many of these branches were linked it became obvious that nothing small could have caused this abrupt change of behaviour in me...
I know it sounds mad but I think it may have been a call.
and so...
I can think of a cracking place along the side of Loughrigg that would provide clean water and a good shelter and i think i'm meant to go there.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

im thinking a cave in lakes or scotland.. if you read up on nuke shelters and ypou make one right you can reduce exposure to fallout by 500 times.. remeber its the dust in the air that gets radioactive not the air. see my links in the survival thread

[Average Joe]

Several times in the past few years I've had dreams about packing the family into the car and leaving town QUICK.

And the dream is not just me leaving town QUICK, but it is me running before others even know what is going on - so I'm doing it before roadblocks and military keeping people hemmed in their towns.

And I always take a tent, supplies, and end up in the mountains of Scotland. Its always the mountains of Scotland.

I don't know what I'm running from, I can't tell, but i think its nuclear or tsunami. But I survive. And after the event, we're camped half way up a mountain and we're wondering what to do next.

Gut feeling tells me IF anything happens, you need to be high as possible and remote as possible until it blows over.

Central Highlands of Scotland, Cairngorm/Grampian region it is then!

[Kraven]

It has to be the mountains.

Speaking of dreams, I know some of the stuff I've dreamt must logically be related to things I've read, especially as the content and my own engagement towards it is ofter quite intense. But on my arrival back from my last trip to the Lakes I had the most intense dream I think I've ever had.

It involved a person talking to me like a teacher after I was directed to notice strange energy radiating from some new satalite / free-view box. It had an 'S' on the front of the device. The teacher then took me around a small town and showed me how this energy effected people as they watched their tv or just wandered around their houses. He said something about the power of the signal being turned up and as he did, he pointed up to all the satalite dishes on the houses all around us which started buzzing and vibrating franticly, as if it had just happened. I began to hear shouting inside the houses and numberous people wandered out their houses with a look of panic and race in their eyes.
As I woke their was the same teacher's voice relentlessly repeating a word beggining with 'S' in my ear. then I woke, sweating and a little scared.:sweatdrop:
Have also had many where I'm trying to save my friends and loved ones and myself from some kind of air attack.
Sorry, probably not the right thread for dreams

[AndyH]

Hi all.
I used to live in the UK and moved to Ireland with my wife and kids. The reason was to simply get away from the "chavs". I notice hardly a day goes by without a stabbing in the UK now.

It's certainly got the right people here with the right attitudes, it's also easy and cheap to get here from the UK and very very easy to "disappear".

Contrary to popular opinion, the Irish do not hate the English btw...

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

just a thought, people ought to check the position of all nuclear and military installations in GB. im assuming if there is a nuke attack it will be onthose spots first?

[izz]

any suggestions?

honestly - no where .. and it depends what you mean .. safe from what .. ? flood ? disease ? bombs ?

scotland probably but too cold for me :original:

[izz]

just a thought, people ought to check the position of all nuclear and military installations in GB. im assuming if there is a nuke attack it will be onthose spots first?

plymouth is the only nuclear location [ subs live there ] in england maybe britain am not sure

[ICF_Wax]

Outside of the UK, I would Choose Ireland.

BTW Mountain/Wilderness in UK is where you FIND the Militery before you all go stomping up to Scotland. Plus if somthing bad happens around me I don't think that I would want to run Anyway. I'd be far more interested in using my capacity's in other ways. Like rebuilding and regrouping people, in the chaos, nothing will be-fall me that isnt ment too.

Looking at good places to make a stand. Building strong Comunitys. As far as hiding goes its Much easyier to hide in plain site. One airplane with infra-red or thermal imaging would Spot people out in the sticks, so easyly.

[Bobcat]

Im in the hills of wales, I understand your point about thermal but how many resorces would they be willing to use to find a small family in the sticks?

Dunno!! But i'll give it a go.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Outside of the UK, I would Choose Ireland.

BTW Mountain/Wilderness in UK is where you FIND the Militery before you all go stomping up to Scotland. Plus if somthing bad happens around me I don't think that I would want to run Anyway. I'd be far more interested in using my capacity's in other ways. Like rebuilding and regrouping people, in the chaos, nothing will be-fall me that isnt ment too.

Looking at good places to make a stand. Building strong Comunitys. As far as hiding goes its Much easyier to hide in plain site. One airplane with infra-red or thermal imaging would Spot people out in the sticks, so easyly.i agree i have had dreams of starting of urban and avoiding authorities clampdowns. once it goes off we wopnt be able to travel woth out ID and insane amounts of big brotherness. you must decide now where to take your stand. dig in a t home or jump ship. im not sure about what to do, my thought was that if i stay in britain i knowmthe territory and the language. if i go to argentina or somewhere im stuck on language customs (who is threatening ect). i also ha d a dream about going across the channel on a boat in a nuclaer winter. odd:thumb_yello:

[Jamie]

These are indeed great points to ponder.

I maybe in danger of sounding like a scratched record, but instead of looking at things from the point of view of fear of coming events, we should be making every conscious effort to create radiant zones where we are by helping people understand what is happening and why.

Also we should have a fallback plan for want of a better word, we need to have a 'safe area', a radiant zone community that we are helping to create, we may not every decide to live there full-time, but we could be effort into helping those that choose to create these areas even if they don't benefit you personally.

Remember that this is not about being service to self, it's about realising that we are all in this together and some of us are not able to do this without the help, sometimes alot of help from others.

Sorry if that sounded like a Monday morning rant.

Peace

Jay

[chelmostef]

Just a thought. If a nuclear power station has melt down or a nuclear bomb goes off. It depends on the strength and direction of the wind at that time. If your down wind you will get the fall out and this area will be contaminated for some time, if how ever you are up wind you will not get so much fall out. I think the key is to have a few options and go with what is best at the time. Dont put all your eggs in one basket so to speak.

Just like to add a note. There is a nuclear power plant in bradwell essex. This is one river up from the mouth of the Thames. So with an easterly wind quite common this would blow across most of essex.

Stef

[border xer]

sorry if i've missed it, but does anyone know if there is a map of nuclear sites in the UK?

EDIT: just found this

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/Brudaimonia/Brudaimonia/UKNukeplants.gif

[Richard]

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[maddy40]

well if it gets really hairy then i think i will have to utter the words of the famous star trekie BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!!! and quick! ...........we will all be safe if we have love in our hearts and be guided for those in high places eg the good guys with space ships:original:

[Pomguymguy]

As far a way from coastal areas as possible (which means both of us should move!):shocked:

It would probably make sense to be well away from any military/industrial/chemical facility as well..

North Yorkshire moors or the Highlands of Scotland seems as good a place as any:original:

Would be a long walk to Tesco (supermarket) in deep snow in winter (or summer) - If we create our reality then so be it - Remember that "thoughts are things" -Think about it !

[maddy40]

Would be a long walk to Tesco (supermarket) in deep snow in winter (or summer) - If we create our reality then so be it - Remember that "thoughts are things" -Think about it !

agreed we are thought and we think and so it is manifested x:)

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Would be a long walk to Tesco (supermarket) in deep snow in winter (or summer) - If we create our reality then so be it - Remember that "thoughts are things" -Think about it !
if it gets that bad where we have to move out of citys. there wont be muc hfood about in supermarkets. plus codex alimentarius means i dont want to eat food from majors anyway.. i mean im vegan pretty much and i dont buy anything from them now..:lightsabre:

im planning on having 2 years worth of whole organic dried foods and a stock of supplements. i dont want to eat monsanto crap :tongue2:

[Jon Orpheus]

Hi everyone

I'm in Stalybridge, Cheshire

When you change the way that you look at things, the things that you look at change.

Embrace change, if you don't it will sneak up behind you and give you a slap!

There are no safe places only safe people!

We have a community made up of musicians, artists, poets etc. Please check out www.myspace.com/acousticeclectic

Be Blessed

Jon

[izz]

safe from what though ???

it might be a good idea to classify the threats and list the possible safe areas accordingly ..

Nuclear attack .. safe areas unknown because it depends where the nukes land and the prevailing winds etc ..

Floods and rising sea level .. anywhere high and inland ..

Civil Unrest - probably the country side .. places like Devon / Cornwall - remote areas ?

Just my thoughts ..

I think there are no really ' safe ' places in the UK and we should just move when we feel our intuition nudging is IMO :original:

[izz]

Hi everyone

There are no safe places only safe people!

Jon

I was thinking the same thing Jon, it is about the connections we have and make not where we are geograhically .. although that could matter :lol3:

[mikey]

It is naturally good to think about and plan directions to go in ''worse case scenarios'' and i think this should be done. In my situation living in devon u could say the main threat down here would be flooding and severe wetness....however i am a firm believer in trusting our intuitional instinct and gut feeling and i have followed this way of thought all my life and truly believe it holds the most honest and loving path for me.
All of the southwest, all of the UK, all of the northern hemisphere becoming submerged, frozen or completely nuked just does not resonate within me. I am all to aware of the possibilities and u could say i only believe what i want to believe but surely isnt that how it works.
I think everyone should truly listen to themselves and know that they will make the right decision when the time is right and we will all be where we need to be when the time calls for it. A decision based of love. Be aware but dont be scared of these times...

peace

bananaman

[izz]

totally agree Bananaman - I think the first thing in making brits safe would be the fall of the present govt .. seriously .. and a fall so far fr all those slimey labour politicaINAS THAT they NEVER ever get back into power .. the present people i mean .. like jack straw .. etc etc and miiliband .. yugh ..

so part of safe gaurding is the deciisons we make as a country and id likle our country to revolt and bootg the govt out :tears:

[kevino]

Hmmm, some interesting responses here, so I'll add my thoughts.
Unless it comes completely out of the blue all the nuclear power stations will be run down and made 'safe' before the controllers 'leave the building' and turn off the lights. These reactors in the UK are mostly by the coast except for a few that are by large amounts of water (for cooling). I wouldn't worrry too much about those.
I would be more concerned about the reactions of all of the people who didn't see it coming who will be panicked and start looting etc. Towns and cities won't be nice places to be!
Anywhere you might want to run to will have to be close unless you make a break for it before the military close down all the roads and declare a dusk to dawn curfew and send up helicopters with FLIR to track down the runners. Make no mistake, if the balloon goes up martial law will come into effect very quickly and anyone caught is in deep trouble. There are MOD places everywhere (2 within 9 miles of here) and the army would be on the streets in no time.
If you can get away then go to the nearest safest high ground with spring water. I'd love to get to the highlands or the lake district but being on junction 10 of the M42 I know from my own experience in the military that I would never make it, even on my own. I'll be trying to keep a family alive.
One area that hasn't been mentioned yet is the peak district which is about 40 or so miles due north of here (Tamworth).
I learnt TM in the 80s and worked for the organisation so that I could learn the siddhi techniques without spending money. I stayed at a place in the Dane valley near Macclesfield and I know the area quite well as I spent my days off walking in the countryside. There is natural shelter there (it was used during WW2 by the locals) and an abundance of spring water as well as sources of food.
So, pick a place or places close by, get the OS maps and a good compass and learn how to use them (day and night), travel light and go to ground.
This is a short term measure. Long term if it goes down like this we won't survive anyway but at least you can get away from the horrors of mass panic and everything else that disgusts me about society these days.
Hope (and pray if you like) for the best but plan for the worst.
"Chance favours the prepared mind."
All the best to everyone, Kev

[Newliving]

I don't know i think i'll end up staying in sunny stoke and what happens,happens-we are not physically immortal;not being defeatist just ride it out.I'm at 600 feet above sea level but 2 miles from a city?I will go with the flow; stock up on snappin' i have a coal fire anyhow so cooking and warmth no probs. unless we have a supercell storm and we are supercooled like the woolly mammoths? crikey charlie!! axe and shovels etc all in the garage for choppin wood.
I'm not that concerned and i suppose i should be really; my HEART is not the least worried-i have always been practical and have engaged in manual work alot of my life;so hard labour for food and shelter is no problem wherever i end up.To be to the point i'm not afraid of death-it's a beginning.What concerns jack is how we are treated in this plane of existance-i would die happy if i knew there'd be something we'd left behind a legacy for good people to work on.i hope i'm not coming across as depressing cos it isn't.Thanks for the post i've been thinking and searching about this a while now.I was trying to find maps on the net that may have been redrawn already by geologists/geographers after a potential world flood scenario but i can't find any.Can anyone help on that score-new maps pointing out high risk areas.I know where i am if the water rose to 300 feet above current sea level then about 3 miles from me would be the beach!!hurray!lol.

I agree and I'm already working to convert N Staffs into a Transition Region (ref. Transition Towns initiative, www.transitiontowns.org ) to make the area much more self-reliant, self-sufficient before things get too hairy.

Time we Stokies met, I feel. I'll pm you.

[Merlin]

Hi all.
I used to live in the UK and moved to Ireland with my wife and kids. The reason was to simply get away from the "chavs". I notice hardly a day goes by without a stabbing in the UK now.

It's certainly got the right people here with the right attitudes, it's also easy and cheap to get here from the UK and very very easy to "disappear".

Contrary to popular opinion, the Irish do not hate the English btw...

Hi Merlin here from the Irish Ground Crew, do people in England really think that the average Irish person hates the English? Please belive me - NOT SO!

Merlin

[symbolon]

The UK is pretty small. I don't think it will survive much of anything, should anything major occur.
That is most certainly true of 'Major' events. For instance, where could you go after a nuclear exchange in the UK? Survival is 'almost' inconsequential on an island as small as the UK.

[Floyd]

I was thinking the same thing Jon, it is about the connections we have and make not where we are geograhically .. although that could matter :lol3:

I think its both, but a good place to start is meeting those with the same motivations then the rest may follow.

[upjock36]

safe areas in the uk - doubt it

not meaning to be negative here, but if even a small portion of the population moved north into scotland, how could the land provide food(most inportant) the uk imports most of our food, so before long there would be all hell breaking loose,most of the land up here has been managed for eons & cant provide enough even for the local populations, the land would be stripped bare of all its resourses within a short time.

i heard somewhere that when hunger sets in a person would steal food in about 2 - 3 days & kill for it within 7 days...not gd news if your trying to relocate whilst the masses are hungry. if everybody decides to head north it would most likley be that the locals would survive as they know the land & they would want to protect it......talk about the caveman days lol

my advise would be to stay put for as long as you could(even in large urban areas) keep your heads down & hope that it passes your front door.

[AndyH]

Hi Merlin here from the Irish Ground Crew, do people in England really think that the average Irish person hates the English? Please belive me - NOT SO!

Merlin

Hi Merlin,

I missed that one, my apologies.
You're absolutely correct of course and I know this now having been here for a couple of years now. Given all the censored and doctored news in the UK during the "troubles" however it's not surprising that I grew up thinking otherwise. Coming over here was just one of many eye openers I've had.

[Sol Invictus]

Stay well away from the Brecon Beacons is my advice. Theres some weird and strange 'things' floating around the sennybridge training area in peace time, so God alone knows what will be up in the skies during any 'disturbances' or events.

Stick to central or Northern Wales for a hide away.

However, i'm happy sourcing out a Northern Scotland hide away.

[AMA-GI]

The only safe place in the UK will be deep into the highlands of scotland.

I have my safe place there.

I have been told to go there by my guides.

Dont get me wrong, i also think there will be a few places in wales as well but scotland will be much safer.

[freespirit]

hi all

If the threat of a nuclear exchange looks imminent the scottish highlands
are my best bet plenty of resources fish,game,freshwater, shelter it's got it all.I live in north yorkshire not two far away from a major strategic target.:eek:
As for climate my advise is stay away from the coast and if you are inland
check you elevation (above/below sea level).
If? polar caps continue to lose ice then an increase in sea level looks likley.

stay happy people, have a nice cup of tea
freespirit

[Greg10036]

I have never been to GB but my first impulse reading your question is that if you can make it to the Scottish Highlands, that might be the best bet. They still have a clan system which could be a plus. Peace.
g.

[peacelovinman]

I have never been to GB but my first impulse reading your question is that if you can make it to the Scottish Highlands, that might be the best bet. They still have a clan system which could be a plus. Peace.
g.


In times of danger, head for the hills!!

[Swanny]

With so many troops in Wales playing war games it is probably not a good idea to go there at the moment.

[traite]

Anywhere north of Perth I would think. I stay in Glasgow which is about 30 miles shy of the Faslane Sub base doon the river clyde so I aint in the best place if anything BIG was to break but what the heck, lightsabres at the ready just in case:lightsabre:

[Jezzandor]

Above 65 degrees north and as high up as possible, or in the southern hemisphere. A geographical pole shift will probably cause maximum innundation closest to the equator, due to the gravitational effect of the Earth's rotation. Important to gather ourselves together and assess our resources. The last event left just thousands of individuals. As the time approaches we will be guided, but at some point a leap of faith will be required. It won't be enough to be just a little ahead of the game - we need to be in our new game by the time it hits.

Everything is proceeding according to plan. There's no need to worry.

Can you feel your light body speeding up? Your vibration getting higher? Your focus more intense and steady? Your emotions less dominant?

I'm so glad I found you. Get busy, get ready. Clear all the unnecessary things from your life. Purge your non-essential belongings. See yourself from the other side of the bridge, knowing you were right to start preparing NOW.

Love from J

[Antaletriangle]

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=17&pictureid=1197I feel that if a nuclear exchange does occur then in The British Isles nowhere is thoroughly safe.Any western part of the country with elevation maybe the best bet-prevailing atlantic weather systems should propel fall out eastward.The initial blast zones should on paper be cities/miltary stations/nuclear reactors.The contamination of the water system is the main concern if you survive the major effects of the intial strike;electromagnetic pulse with gamma flux then shockwave,firestorm then radiation;lovely cocktail to deal with!!Love to you all.The brecon beacons are dodgy by accounts;bases beneath there with reports of reptilians controlling these!!See Lt.col Sc. on edge radio.Peace and love jackdawz!!

[RamblingRebel]

http://merkel.zoneo.net/Topo/Applet/
Handy little tool for calculating sea level rises.

[Southsea]

been thinking about what folks have said regarding Scotland, remember that there is the main uk nuclear submarine base located in Scotland.

[NemisisFireOwl]

Greetings Folks....so does anyone know anythin about Northern Ireland...? Would be interested in meeting up if there is anyone out there...
Ive realised so far that the amount of like minded people is so minimal its scary...sigh and what i wouldnt do for a bit o decent convo...heeeeelp!
Anywayz...i look forward to chattin & whatever else may come my way...
Shooting Stars & Sun Showers!
Lisa :)

www.myspace.com/fireowlrecords

[Egg]

High ground for the waves, undewrground for the Skies. Depending on what time line we travel down is the decider.

Safe areas of NI? well, again, if its water, 300 feet plus, if its skies, as deep under the ground as you can get.

Thats just our group opinion mind - but, as they say, be prepared. :thumb_yello:

[pictish shaman]

Be careful of Glen Lyon - there is the dam at the top which - if things got shakey - could burst and wash you away

[Connecting with Sauce]

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/Brudaimonia/Brudaimonia/UKNukeplants.gif

Interesting how the large ones seem to be close to main energy Ley lines. Hinkley and Sizewell are a good example on the Michael / Mary lines...

http://www.tanogabo.it/images/Nuova_cartella/Michael%20Ley%20Line.gif

A discussion on the reason maybe way they are there... Apparently the Hinkley and sizewell are energy centres very similar to Stonehenge or the less well known energy centre but more impressive Avebury circle (actually on the above mentioned lines)...

A possible reason for this?
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/stmichaelleyline03aug07.shtml

[Swanny]

Hey I live on that line :thumb_yello:
Just where it says werhill the map has been folder so it should say bowerhill :original: