Morality and truthfulness in the forums.

[Darren Swisher]

Hello all just wanted to express how happy I am to be a part of project Avalon and the forums.

I just wanted to touch base on something I have noticed with this site and other forums.

I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.

Almost all of our members are not using there real names. I realize there are many reasons why this is and none of the answer I will receive are really good answers. But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world. In other forums that I have been involved with it works very well. Just think of it as carrying on a conversion in a face to face environment. If you are trying to hide something, be disrespectful, lie or have other agendas then you do not need to be here.


Morality isn't based on subjective ideas on "good" and "bad".

It's based on objective principles of Right and Wrong.

To find the Moral is to find the Truth.

Human Nature as well as the nature of the Universe allows us to study not only the dry facts of reality, but also the philosophical implications of existence and the existence of life itself including the conciseness of man.

Thanks for listening,

Darren Swisher

[THE eXchanger]

This is a lovely post Darren
and, i am so glad you posted it,
lots of good stuff in it, for us to remember

Welcome to project avalon :)

i look forward to hearing more of your wisdom

i am susan

[Lance]

Howdy All

Lance C. Roseman from the Sunshine Coast of BC here, I'll not hide my being, ever. Fear is failure and the forerunner of failure. Okay, that was a Crowley quote but WTF!

[noelnewell]

Hi Darren

My name really is Noël Newell and no, I'm not a cat. Haven't had time to put a picture of me up yet. However, the cat, Charm, is one of my most joyful companions!

[clarkkent]

kyle espeleta here, google my name or click on my profile and my real name is there...no hiding.

in fact i was bugging the secret service today and other agents protecting various U.N dignataries today, they were all at the sheraton and hilton in mid town manhattan were i was walking a dog (thats what i do)

the ukranian secret service were really gruff, i felt like chevy chase in "spies like us" an annoying goof asking if yeshenko was around. i wanted to see bush come out of the sheraton (he was eating lunch i guess) but it was a no go.

i was hoping he would want to come over and pet the dog i was walking and id get to tell him the "NWO will fail buddy!" but alas he didnt show and i had to go.

im sure there were people checking me in the windows and stuff above in other buildings.

who cares!

-kyle

[Dantheman62]

That's funny, good to have a sense of humor, as my avatar shows,Dan.

[astropsyche]

Darren I feel the avatars and pseudonyms etc are a great idea. To choose an image which reflects one's essence is very appealing to one such as me, who prefers to let my mind do the talking. My daily persona can be an encumbrance which cramps my style when engaging with others thousands of miles away. I think honesty and openness are crucial in a forum - but if folk prefer to remain incognito surely that is okay? The important thing to me is that we are all communicating on important issues and sharing insights, observations on the magical thing we call life, aspirations and apprehensions, and simple old-fashioned humour.

[THE eXchanger]

Hi Darren

My name really is Noël Newell and no, I'm not a cat. Haven't had time to put a picture of me up yet. However, the cat, Charm, is one of my most joyful companions!

hi charm...and, Noël :welcomeani:

i miss my cat,
he left on 17may2007, i think
after 15 1/2 years

you are lucky to have Charm :)
(what an awesome cat)

cats can teach you a lot about rising
your vibration...also, if you spend a little time,
everyday, trying to imitate the cat purr,
you enver get sick :)

not sure, where a cat is on hawkins scale,
about 500 i think

brightest blessings to all

susan
the eXchanger

[historycircus]

Complete anonymity can lead to complete expression. Those who might be inhibited because of what might be at stake in our physical world might not express thier true feelings without anonymity. Keep in mind that, as far as I know, "Henry Deacon" is a psudonym. Some may not have a choice. We should not judge anyone for not putting their real names out there - they could have a lot to lose, such as their ability to contribute meaningful information to those who are listening.

Mike

[Anchor]

I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.
...
If you are trying to hide something, be disrespectful, lie or have other agendas then you do not need to be here.

You dont need my real name to work out if what I post is honest etc. You simply need to read the words and decide.

I have chosen to remain behind an alias for practical operational security reasons, and to stop my real life becoming akward professionally.

There will come a time when I will be happy to post my photo, tell you my real name etc, but that time is not now. Sorry.

A..

[Morgan]

I appreciate the intentions of the OP, but I reserve the right to privacy.

Giving out one's real name provides anyone at all with the ability to gather information about oneself. Fear or no fear, I do not feel it necessary to disclose to a bunch of strangers in a forum my career, the high school I attended, where I live, etc.

So, Morgan is shall be :)

[Tuza]

My real name is on the round table, and if you Goggle my real name it takes up about three quarters of the full page - here then - Heather Dolheguy.

[Esteban]

I'm Esteban Danilo Villanova Montenegro from Chile. greetings to all.

[Mori]

As much as I have tried to remember, my real name has eluded me. During the time before current a name was irrelevant. If a name was relevant I would have remembered what it was. I do not understand the question.

[Frank Samuel]

hey my name is Frank Samuel and no I'm not keen on pictures. Not my thing.
Even with my babies and family, just not my thing. I learn to look beyond the picture . My pictures are stored in my mind. I let my wife take the pictures.:biggrin2:

[Shellie]

I have a vicious and vindictive ex-husband who is a pathological narcissist. He doesn't need to know what I am up to.

Oh... he is also an Islamofascist from a certain "rogue/terrorist" country, and feels death is the punishment for apostasy.

[777 The Great Work]

Hello all just wanted to express how happy I am to be a part of project Avalon and the forums.

I just wanted to touch base on something I have noticed with this site and other forums.

I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.

Almost all of our members are not using there real names. I realize there are many reasons why this is and none of the answer I will receive are really good answers. But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world. In other forums that I have been involved with it works very well. Just think of it as carrying on a conversion in a face to face environment. If you are trying to hide something, be disrespectful, lie or have other agendas then you do not need to be here.


Morality isn't based on subjective ideas on "good" and "bad".

It's based on objective principles of Right and Wrong.

To find the Moral is to find the Truth.

Human Nature as well as the nature of the Universe allows us to study not only the dry facts of reality, but also the philosophical implications of existence and the existence of life itself including the conciseness of man.

Thanks for listening,

Darren Swisher

I feel we use these names because we are becomming something else.
This is what feels good and its how we see ourselves. We are becomming one mind , one thought and one idea. Soon all the names wil dissapear as we merge into oneness.

[GenerationIke]

If you notice Darren, little by little I am doing just that! And in the next few more posts, I'll just bet someone will finally see the light and know who I am.

:sweatdrop: (Maybe my government friends, you think? hehe)


Anyway, I'm all for the truth, and I have a whopper to post about the economics and financials. What I was reading about today already in my possession that's linked to what I posted or pmed to somebody earlier.

Very shortly, I will share with all of you. And I hope Ben Fulford can shed the remaining light on what I have in my possession because it DOES have something to do with the Japanese, the economy and "a few good men's" trying to stir the pot to make a brawling mess between Japan and the United States. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. so help me, Ben!

[TranceAm]

"Almost all of our members are not using there real names. I realize there are many reasons why this is and none of the answer I will receive are really good answers. But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world."

How about this for a candy apples:

My "real" name (As you call it and we all are "trained"/"educated"/"indoctrinated" with and even punished if we don't use it....) is the name given to me, and put into the system and databases for control and commercial purposes.. Nothing more then the catalog entry of all the stuff like fingerprints, credit cards, drivers and other licences,
DNA and god knows what more..

However, my "real" name was never the name >I< chose for myself.
As a matter of fact, "I" had nothing to do with it, and no influence over it.
It was chosen for me, and basically as much worth to me as my Social Security Number. (Keep in mind, that I am grateful to my parents to have given birth to my physical body, and I don't blame them that they had to obey the system of how to name/register me....)

Here in this virtual world I can use my OWN name, the one "I" identify with, the one "I" chose for myself, and will identify with (if nessesary.) long after I lose my "real" name.

To make it even more interesting:
i got 2 names chosen for my spirit... TranceAm is for Peace,
And my "real" name is nothing more then the bumper sticker on the physical appearance, when you meet my physical appearance..

Is this answer good enough?
btw2, Each message/post/reply has to get credit for itself by its message..

TranceAm -> Conditioning --> http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/TarotCardNew.cfm?All=Yes&Nr=16

Unless you drop your personality you will not be able to find your individuality.
Individuality is given by existence; personality is imposed by the society. Personality is
social convenience.

Society cannot tolerate individuality, because individuality will not follow like a sheep.
Individuality has the quality of the lion; the lion moves alone. The sheep are always in the
crowd, hoping that being in the crowd will feel cozy. Being in the crowd one feels more
protected, secure. If somebody attacks, there is every possibility in a crowd to save yourself.
But alone? - only the lions move alone.

And every one of you is born a lion, but the society goes on conditioning you,
programming your mind as a sheep. It gives you a personality, a cozy personality, nice, very
convenient, very obedient. Society wants slaves, not people who are absolutely dedicated to
freedom. Society wants slaves because all the vested interests want obedience.

Osho One Seed Makes the Whole Earth Green Chapter 4

Commentary:

This card recalls an old Zen story, about a lion who was brought up by sheep and who thought he was a sheep until
an old lion captured him and took him to a pond, where he showed him his own reflection. Many of us are like this
lion - the image we have of ourselves comes not from our own direct experience but from the opinions of others.
A "personality" imposed from the outside replaces the individuality that could have grown from within. We
become just another sheep in the herd, unable to move freely and unconscious of our own true identity.

It's time to take a look at your own reflection in the pond, and make a move to break out of whatever you have
been conditioned by others to believe about yourself. Dance, run, jog, do gibberish - whatever is needed to wake up
the sleeping lion within.

http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/picCards/zen016Conditioning.jpg


:smoke:

[whitecrow]

I'm not sure how much a screen name has to do with integrity and morality. There are already a few folks here with my cell phone number and who know who I am. We're planning to meet very soon. On the other hand I don't know where my identity might travel on the Internet. I've been the victim of identity theft once. And I see no reason to make it even easier for the pigs to find me.

I'm Dave, and I'm in the book.

[nodrog]

But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world.Hmmmm... trust has to be earned. Honesty does not. I can be honest without you knowing my real name.

If I was a member of some special task force commanded with identifying dissidents to the NWO, one of the first places I would go is the internet and forums that provide user information and where dissonant views are expressed. I would then make a list of the names, especially those with websites and RL addresses. I would then go through the list looking for cross references to phone books or websites. Depending on my brief, I would "profile" the list and determine who, by the evidence, are those that might pose a threat to the NWO.

On that basis I would say that transparency in these times and in this context is naive. There are enemies of truth, goodness and purity. Sometimes truth must be concealed. Even God does it.

I rest my case.

:wink2:

Regards, nodrog.

[TranceAm]

"If I was a member of some special task force commanded with identifying dissidents to the NWO, one of the first places I would go is the internet and forums that provide user information and where dissonant views are expressed."

That is so yester millenium..

I would make my echelon and carnivore black boxes operating in the ISP for Total Information Awareness, scan each and every TCP/IP packet and analyse if there were forbidden/trigger words.. If any flag comes up positive, It would trigger that all communication be copied to a field officer who would take the descision to monitor ALL communication from that IP... Mostly for future references, after all laws change, and sometime they change something in the past lawful, to unlawful

The adresses of emails, IRC channels, HTTP adresses would only be used to register the network of individuals, and gather new IP adresses to be monitored a la McCarthy.

:welcomeani:.
Edit : Hi Officer.. At least You every time get something interesting to read.... And you can not, just can not unread thoughts... :P

btw, who gave us the internet, and why exactly? ;-)

[DeeZe]

Actually, all of my friends call me DeeZe. I've had the nickname for over 5 years now. :original:

The name I was given at birth is Robert Bourgeau.

Peace and love,
(:-DeeZe

[Chris Parson]

i'm into using my real name. and i appreciate it when others do as well. but i understand why some might feel the need to protect themselves and those near them.

[Chris Parson]

I feel we use these names because we are becomming something else.
This is what feels good and its how we see ourselves. We are becomming one mind , one thought and one idea. Soon all the names wil dissapear as we merge into oneness.

in David Cronenberg's 1983 macabre tribute to Marshall Mcluhan, Videodrome, the character Brian O'bilivion (who was based on Mcluhan) says "Soon all of us will have special names. Names designed to cause the cathode ray tube to resonate."

Indeedy.

[angelite]

Hello all, my real name is Kathleen Stewart and I am not afraid to say it.
Fear is lack of faith and I have a lot of faith that yes there is going to be very bad times ahead but we all came in at this time knowing it ahead of time and most of us are here to help.
I am in service to others.

[777 The Great Work]

"almost all of our members are not using there real names. I realize there are many reasons why this is and none of the answer i will receive are really good answers. But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world."

how about this for a candy apples:

My "real" name (as you call it and we all are "trained"/"educated"/"indoctrinated" with and even punished if we don't use it....) is the name given to me, and put into the system and databases for control and commercial purposes.. Nothing more then the catalog entry of all the stuff like fingerprints, credit cards, drivers and other licences,
dna and god knows what more..

However, my "real" name was never the name >i< chose for myself.
As a matter of fact, "i" had nothing to do with it, and no influence over it.
It was chosen for me, and basically as much worth to me as my social security number. (keep in mind, that i am grateful to my parents to have given birth to my physical body, and i don't blame them that they had to obey the system of how to name/register me....)

here in this virtual world i can use my own name, the one "i" identify with, the one "i" chose for myself, and will identify with (if nessesary.) long after i lose my "real" name.

To make it even more interesting:
I got 2 names chosen for my spirit... Tranceam is for peace,
and my "real" name is nothing more then the bumper sticker on the physical appearance, when you meet my physical appearance..

Is this answer good enough?
Btw2, each message/post/reply has to get credit for itself by its message..

Tranceam -> conditioning --> http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/tarotcardnew.cfm?all=yes&nr=16

unless you drop your personality you will not be able to find your individuality.
Individuality is given by existence; personality is imposed by the society. Personality is
social convenience.

Society cannot tolerate individuality, because individuality will not follow like a sheep.
Individuality has the quality of the lion; the lion moves alone. The sheep are always in the
crowd, hoping that being in the crowd will feel cozy. Being in the crowd one feels more
protected, secure. If somebody attacks, there is every possibility in a crowd to save yourself.
But alone? - only the lions move alone.

And every one of you is born a lion, but the society goes on conditioning you,
programming your mind as a sheep. It gives you a personality, a cozy personality, nice, very
convenient, very obedient. Society wants slaves, not people who are absolutely dedicated to
freedom. Society wants slaves because all the vested interests want obedience.

Osho one seed makes the whole earth green chapter 4

commentary:

This card recalls an old zen story, about a lion who was brought up by sheep and who thought he was a sheep until
an old lion captured him and took him to a pond, where he showed him his own reflection. Many of us are like this
lion - the image we have of ourselves comes not from our own direct experience but from the opinions of others.
A "personality" imposed from the outside replaces the individuality that could have grown from within. We
become just another sheep in the herd, unable to move freely and unconscious of our own true identity.

It's time to take a look at your own reflection in the pond, and make a move to break out of whatever you have
been conditioned by others to believe about yourself. Dance, run, jog, do gibberish - whatever is needed to wake up
the sleeping lion within.

http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/piccards/zen016conditioning.jpg


:smoke:
well said !!!!!

[nodrog]

...That is so yester millenium..Thanks for the update. I guess I am a bit behind the ball... (like I need to get in front of it).

I should point out however, that in my hypothetical example, it is not about listening so much as compiling a list with RL names addresses photos to forward to a "clean up crew". Yes, such details would be available via your method, but I am not concerned with how so much as what information may be garnered.

I think you understand my meaning. It is already understood I think, that "listening" is already taking place. My concern is not that people are listening because I have nothing I want to hide from them. Only that once a decision is made to eliminate opposition, personal details such as name etc become important. If I had that job, this forum might be a "good" place to start if I and everyone were to adopt the practice such as might be inferred from this thread.

Gosh, I've watched enough movies.

:winksmiley02:

Regards, nodrog.

[Sherab]

Hello all just wanted to express how happy I am to be a part of project Avalon and the forums.

I just wanted to touch base on something I have noticed with this site and other forums.

I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.

Almost all of our members are not using there real names. I realize there are many reasons why this is and none of the answer I will receive are really good answers. But in order for any of us to really trust one another we need let go, stop hiding behind the “username” and reveal ourselves to the world. In other forums that I have been involved with it works very well. Just think of it as carrying on a conversion in a face to face environment. If you are trying to hide something, be disrespectful, lie or have other agendas then you do not need to be here.


Morality isn't based on subjective ideas on "good" and "bad".

It's based on objective principles of Right and Wrong.

To find the Moral is to find the Truth.

Human Nature as well as the nature of the Universe allows us to study not only the dry facts of reality, but also the philosophical implications of existence and the existence of life itself including the conciseness of man.

Thanks for listening,

Darren Swisher

I disagree, Darren Swisher. What difference does it make what you "call" yourself? It is just a sound, and we are not our names, or our bodies, jobs, families, possesions, or any of that. A name is just a subjective title used to identify a subjective, ever changing expression of consciousness; a consciousness which can actually never be pinned down as anything solid.

You say we need to stop hiding behind usernames, well I challenge us to stop hiding behind our "real" names. Who are you?

-Arthur Guy

[mntruthseeker]

Vickie Connell here and if you go into some sites where I am sounding off, you will see my name. I'm proud of who I am and my thoughts. I feel that hiding behind a false name and sounding off doesn't make sense. I want people to know that its me. My husband freaks out due to this. There are alot of women that hide their true identity due to the type of people we deal with as the ones involved with the illuminati.:biggrin2:

It's a me and you can take it or leave it , but I'm holding my head up high even though I say stupid off the wall things. After all thats one of the reasons my husband fell in love with me. DUH :winksmiley02:

[lightbeing]

Hello Darren, welcome to Avalon :welcomeani:

A name is not important, for we recognize each other through our consciousness.
I am a being of light, I am Peace, Love and Joy. We all are. This I know.
A name? I have had many names. In this lifetime the name that was given to me, is (translated into english): JOY :original:

Namaste!

[Norval]

While I have used "handles" on the net, I do prefer my real name. Most of my net names
reflected my research work, IE; craterchains. I also like to know the "age" of the ones I
am posting with. It is also good to know the posters general area of where they live.
These "facts" help in formulating responses to posts.

Yet there is a great deal one can learn about a poster by the "name" they have chosen.

Norval L. Cunningham

[arcora]

I want to talk about honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride, and ethics.

I have my reasons for remaining anonymous but I can assure you all they are benign.

I hope that if anyone chooses to judge my honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride and ethics that they can do so by reading what I write.

[TranceAm]

I hope that if anyone chooses to judge my honesty, integrity, character, reliability, honor, pride and ethics that they can do so by reading what I write.

Every message earns its own credit, beside the point whether the nick that wrote the message is "The_Boy_That_Cried_Wolf"

[Darren Swisher]

I disagree, Darren Swisher. What difference does it make what you "call" yourself? It is just a sound, and we are not our names, or our bodies, jobs, families, possesions, or any of that. A name is just a subjective title used to identify a subjective, ever changing expression of consciousness; a consciousness which can actually never be pinned down as anything solid.

You say we need to stop hiding behind usernames, well I challenge us to stop hiding behind our "real" names. Who are you?

-Arthur Guy

I beg to differ, We are our Names, in the end that is all we have, History has taught us that. I understand that we are all from the same "one" but i myself have an identity to my own. If you can change the world by yourself, please proceed. We need comminity, individuals working together.

In biological terms, a community is a group of interacting organisms sharing an environment.

In human communities, intent, belief, resources, preferences, needs, risks, and a number of other conditions may be present and common, affecting the identity of the participants and their degree of cohesiveness.

In sociology, the concept of community has caused infinite debate, and sociologists are yet to reach agreement on a definition of the term. In deed, one can find 94 discrete definitions of the term even as early as mid-1950s. Traditionally a "community" has been defined as a group of interacting people living in a common location. The word is thus often used to mean a group that is organized around common values within a shared geographical location. However, the definition has evolved and been enlarged to mean individuals who share characteristics, regardless of their location or type of interaction. In this sense, "community" can mean a community of interest or an ethnic group. Finally, wider meanings of the word can refer to the national community or global community. What these various meanings have in common is that they refer to the strength of the ties between the group, of whatever nature—cultural, ethnic, or moral—they may be.

[Jacqui D]

Hi Darren, well you have been the first to post the actual thing i was thinking.
Very nicely put.
As you can see this is my name i have nothing to hide and i don't care what anyone thinks of my postings etc;
we are all here to give our thoughts, ideas and love i hope.
My Avatar is how i feel i guess, oh i just saw someone else with the same avator hi to you.:wub2:

[Baggywrinkle]

As Robert Morning Sky used to say, we are nobodies.

Nobody special. Who we are is not important. What we
are is very important.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits" (Matt 7:16 )

We are

Donald & Deborah Kircher and we live on a rocky patch
of ground thirteen miles into the hills east of Yelm Washington with one dog, two cats, and thirty three chickens.

Blessings


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2549662407_cd888852bc.jpg

"No, let us not slip gradually, bit by bit, into the ways of the world that lead to an emphasis on pride and personal vanity. When we are gone, let us be remembered not by how broad were our noses, the height of our brows, or the angle of our cheekbones, but by what truly matters --- the lives we have lived and the examples we have left. Dust we are, to dust we shall return. Why frame and embellish and hang on the wall the pictures of this house of clay in which we live? Let us beware lest we permit Self to be exalted becoming unto us a graven image."

[371]

I don't think using a psuedonymn is being 'untruthful' at all. Unless you're making huge claims and need to prove credibility, or are asked to provide your name and lie, I don't think it's nescessary to give your real name. Many people could be persecuted for their views expressed on here (professionally, and legally).

Many people (as this thread has shown) are more than willing to give their real names, locations, etc. Fact is, is someone is determined they can find out anything about anybody so there's really no such thing as 'hiding'- especially on an internet forum. The reason I won't give my name isn't to 'protect' me personally- that's all I'll say.

I think most of us don't have delusions of grandeur and think that the PTB are paying attention to us individually, or at least not on the level that is easy to think. At least I don't, I know I'm not that important.

[ForsakenFalcon]

lol and what if your english name isn't Your username but the meaning of it?

I am "Wild Falcon, Across The Ocean"!

[Circlewerk]

There are other issues that deserve more attention.



If I attach my mind to the idea, that whether or not you use a "real" name or pseudonym is a bad or good thing, right or wrong thing, or telling of how honest you are, I am then dividing myself further from you by way of ego, than my name already does.
I am then concerning myself more with the messenger, than the message.

If you be human, I love you & will hear your words.
You may have a message for me, that even you are unaware of delivering.
My own inner compass will let me know if this is the case.
And it will have Nothing to do with your name.


Circles,
CW

[Darren Swisher]

I have no problems with people who do not want to use there real names. Only a suggestion. But i do want to know who i am talking with.

1. Are you here for the right reasons?
2. Are you providing real information or misinformation?
3. Are you a fear monger?
4. Do you have the back ground to answer some of the important questions asked?

And so on.

In the end it is I that must decide, but with out knowing your reputations and experience they are just words.

I will trust my "gut" as will everyone else.

Maybe i am asking to much from the forums

In the end I want the truth, no matter how bad and ugly it is.

I think the thread has lived its life and now is time to close it.

[Anchor]

Maybe i am asking to much from the forums.

It seems to me your post boils down to the same dilema we all have. How does one discern truth? What guarantees does one have that they can reject that which is false.

You already know the answer, what comes next is practise and refinement.

A..

[Darren Swisher]

You are correct, lets move on

[Mori]

Darren,

You say "We are our names", you are mistaken. When you speak a name, the word you spoke, is not the individual. It is a thought you spoke aloud. When you write a name on paper, the paper is not the individual. The connection you make is called the title. When a new soul is born into a human body, then the parents give the new soul a temporary title. The name/title is a possession of an individual but it is not the individual. The soul/energy being occupying the human body is the individual and unless you have personally spoken to the creator and specifically asked the creator what your name is then you currently do not know what your name is.

I am not the only individual seeing it this way, it is written in law dating back to roman times still used today. This is why the government created the entity called "person". When you get a license it is for your person. Credit cards are for your person. Titles within the fiction are owned by your person. The Constitution was the creation of contract between the individuals of the republic and the new formed person "UNITED STATES". Your person is your property and within law is your legal corporation.

This is the trick played on people, convincing them they are their name or person instead of a living soul created by the creator. We continue to give our person tons of civil rights and by doing this allow the corporations to possess the same rights, that's the trick! We were all born with human rights, we give our name/person civil rights because the elite have tried to pull a bait and switch to empower their corporations. People need to learn to recognize the difference between the laws of land and sea.

Good Chatting,

By, The Energy Being with the title of Mori

[Darren Swisher]

Darren,

You say "We are our names", you are mistaken. When you speak a name, the word you spoke, is not the individual. It is a thought you spoke aloud. When you write a name on paper, the paper is not the individual. The connection you make is called the title. When a new soul is born into a human body, then the parents give the new soul a temporary title. The name/title is a possession of an individual but it is not the individual. The soul/energy being occupying the human body is the individual and unless you have personally spoken to the creator and specifically asked the creator what your name is then you currently do not know what your name is.

I am not the only individual seeing it this way, it is written in law dating back to roman times still used today. This is why the government created the entity called "person". When you get a license it is for your person. Credit cards are for your person. Titles within the fiction are owned by your person. The Constitution was the creation of contract between the individuals of the republic and the new formed person "UNITED STATES". Your person is your property and within law is your legal corporation.

This is the trick played on people, convincing them they are their name or person instead of a living soul created by the creator. We continue to give our person tons of civil rights and by doing this allow the corporations to possess the same rights, that's the trick! We were all born with human rights, we give our name/person civil rights because the elite have tried to pull a bait and switch to empower their corporations. People need to learn to recognize the difference between the laws of land and sea.

Good Chatting,

By, The Energy Being with the title of Mori

Mori, Most of what you say (with all due respect) is BS, In my opinion, you are not living in the same world i am. All I want is the Truth, your post only confuses people in a time we need direction and action.

God Speed

[BPhill]

Unless you drop your personality you will not be able to find your individuality.
Individuality is given by existence; personality is imposed by the society. Personality is
social convenience.

Society cannot tolerate individuality, because individuality will not follow like a sheep.
Individuality has the quality of the lion; the lion moves alone. The sheep are always in the
crowd, hoping that being in the crowd will feel cozy. Being in the crowd one feels more
protected, secure. If somebody attacks, there is every possibility in a crowd to save yourself.
But alone? - only the lions move alone.

And every one of you is born a lion, but the society goes on conditioning you,
programming your mind as a sheep. It gives you a personality, a cozy personality, nice, very
convenient, very obedient. Society wants slaves, not people who are absolutely dedicated to
freedom. Society wants slaves because all the vested interests want obedience.



I resonate with that...l

[Mori]

Mori, Most of what you say (with all due respect) is BS, In my opinion, you are not living in the same world i am. All I want is the Truth, your post only confuses people in a time we need direction and action.

God Speed


You call bs :lmao: there's tons of documentation backing up what I said. There's a discussion about it here on the forum containing tons of info about it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1838

Are you blind? You are living in the world they want you to live in...pity. Nor would I want to live in the same world as you where a human only had civil rights given by man, rather then human rights given by the creator. I don't appreciate being called a liar by someone who has not even done their homework.:thumbdown: