Why You Don't Create Your Own Reality!

[353L]

You Create Your Own Reality - This is a common New Age belief that states that the things on which one concentrates one's attention increase. By thinking about the positive one is expected to experience same.

I see the matter very differently, although I acknowledge that reality and consciousness interact, however not in the way generally promulgated by the New Age movement...



Michael Topper:
Why You Don't Create Your Own Reality - an antidote to fatuous New Age paradigms


A paradigm that is currently running amok through the New Age community, and which is depriving them of their last bit of common sense, is better known as "You Create Your Own Reality" (short: YCYOR). This insidious half-truth is usually placed into a very misleading context and is never completely true.

Let us just look at some basic facts that we can derive if YCYOR would be completely true:

1.) Every war victim, or rape victim, etc. must have wanted to draw whatever misfortune upon itself, since that victim "created his own reality".

Common sense tells us here, that this is nonsense, and that not all war victims, etc. ever wanted to happen that war to them. For me, common sense simply wins, and cuts a long discussion short. :-)

2.) We would live in a solipsistic universe wherein we could do whatever we wanted without further consequences.

But pretty much obviously, we do not live in such an utopian universe, and no, even on higher densities, there is no such universe.

(Quote: "Oh, what a spoilsport!" we can just hear the chorus. Why not let those who want to, abide peacefully in the solipsism of their spook-sanctioned presumption that -- despite the alleged interconnectedness of everything -- the common ego-view of personal hermetic insularity is valid after all, and "I" can indeed conjure a positive-think Paradise to "preserve me eternal" in the midst of everyone else's self-created, hallucinatory world-disaster.)

What makes the YCYOR evangelist fatuous (rather than a demonstrable God of the most egregious solipsism) is precisely the fact that all such "personal decreeing", "positive thinking" and confident imagining takes place in an inevitable context. There are implications! There are repercussions! No one decrees in a personal or private, solipsistic vacuum. There is a variegated World of myriad "pulls" and "claims" coexisting along with the private desires and designs of the given ego-subject.

But "so what?" we hear the die-hard "reality-creator" claim—"don't we remain untouched by those 'co-existents' as long as we keep secure in the confidence of our own private deservedness, our own authoritative affirmations and specific commissions of positive thought-re- inforcement?"

Why You Don't "Create Your Own Reality"

Just sit there for a minute. Attune to a mere soupcon of self-reflective consciousness and you can't help but notice you're hardly self-generated; there isn't one thing about yourself, including the environment you perceive or your "personal" will, that issues from any sense of a self-creating "you". Indeed, "you" are spontaneously endowed, before the self-reflective fact, as the coordinate presence of a total and given pattern of Being. It is all immediately established, without personal intercession on your part. The patterns through which you perceive, the modes by which you move and cognize take up your being without a whimper of protest, a hint of objection or even notice. This vastly creative process by which you spontaneously come to yourself, on its terms, is so suavely accepted as inherent expression of your being that you claim it as yourself without even observing you do so (i.e., these are "my" thoughts, "my" words, "my" perceptions, "my" ideas, "my" movements).

Wait, we hear the protests, perhaps I don't actually create the basic patterns of Being or the functions of existence, but I do seem to individualize them. I make them my own. I synthesize all these "given" features as personal contents from my unique angle, so that "my" expression of the common pattern is distinguishable from yours and so very intimately identifiable as me. In that sense I create my own reality out of the given materials, which really aren't anything in particular until I endow them with the unique expressive life that is "me".

This ordinary qualification is acceptable, as long as we notice that the vaunted "personalization" or "individualizing" of the general creative endowment of Being is also a function of that endowment, not something privately assumed. The creative pattern of Being, of which we are expression, individualizes. That is its attribute, not ours. It can only be considered innately "mine" insofar as "I" come after the fact, along with the perspectival endowment of individualization. In that sense I am the process of individualization; but I don't create it.

The Cloud Of One-Knowing

"I" exist in reflective and receptive relation to that process which takes its point of departure from the total, given Pattern of Being. My "knowing" comes structured. It is a function of consciousness, or whole-awareness (i.e. conscious self-awareness); but it furnishes an interpretive syntax of cognition to that consciousness. It possesses an inbuilt grammar of structured variables.

All my instrumental processes, modes of action and so forth are patterned terms of this "knowing". The overall function of my being with its sensory and motor, autonomic and conscious systems is that of knowing. In reality there aren't a lot of different "systems", diverse organs and instrumental complexes, some for physiological processing and life-sustenance, some for acting and responding, some for perceiving and some for knowledge. There is only an overall system or multi-dimensional Pattern of differentiated currents, properties and phases serving the single common function of Knowing; for the whole pattern is an expression of consciousness.

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Suppose, again, that a developer bent upon the "personal, positive affirmation of success" takes it upon himself to reshape his reality according to his heart's desire by speculating the astronomical increase of profits through conversion of some obscure "low-rent" properties kept on the back burner, into mega-buck bungalows for the "upwardly mobile" demographically anticipated in migration toward that particular district ; without hesitation, as expression of the faith and supreme confidence he has in the self-justification of his aim, he evicts all the low-rent tenants on the spot (who, ipso facto, must have wished such misery on themselves). A month later, he's mugged in a back alley by one of those he'd peremptorily displaced, and who'd therefore had no recourse to any but the life of the multiplying homeless.

In both "hypothetical" cases, was it the lingering doubt, the persistence of some conditioned hesitancy or especially in the latter case a misguided atavism of "compassion", guilt or empathy which secretly served to undermine the perfect correspondence of desired effect, thereby producing an accurate reflection of the "negative" belief-structure?

No that just doesn't account for it. We can say for the sake of "hypothesis" that the given developer had no such remorse (for we can certainly find exemplifications of the genre in real life!); and we can infer that our breasted New Ager is as fatuous as he sounds...

But there's that word fatuous! What makes him fatuous? Evidently, not taking into account the obvious context! Remember, we said the potential viability of the term "fatuous" had to do with context ! What makes the "you-create-your-own- reality" evangelist fatuous (rather than a demonstrable God of the most egregious solipsism) is precisely the fact that all such "personal decreeing", "positive thinking" and confident imagining takes place in an inevitable context. There are implications! There are repercussions! No one "decrees" in a personal or private, solipsistic vacuum. There is a variegated World of myriad "pulls" and "claims" coexisting along with the private desires and designs of the given ego-subject.

But "so what?" we hear the die-hard "reality-creator" claim "don't we remain untouched by those 'co-existents' as long as we keep secure in the confidence of our own private deservedness, our own authoritative affirmations and specific commissions of positive thought-re-inforcement?"

Report To The Commissioner

No. Man does not live by "commission" alone. This is why you do not create your own reality, but merely generate reality-hypotheses or scenarios which are continuously reflected and tested against the Whole; and the Whole, being inseparable from the Potential of your own innate-global Being, is constituted by the explicit and implicit alike, by that which is produced through active or positive commission and that which results from the gaps, blind-spots and vacuums of interpretive omission. All the lines, potential and actual, exist within one's being and are inevitably calculated into the total account! This is what it means when we say there's a context in which all our desire-formulation and "decreeing" takes place.

This is a Deity-centered reality, not an ego-centered reality. Only the totality of the soul-nature is in touch with the Totality of Spirit-being. Anything else necessarily involves a partial perspective, a conceptual self-estimation producing inevitable blindspots, negatively-recessed lacunae as well as "positive" outlines to be filled in obligingly by experience. What you have selectively omitted from "your reality", is manifested as well! Gaps in thinking and experience which develop one "side" at the expense of the other, or which temporarily prevent a latent potential of certain centers or combinations of centers from being realized, do not simply "pass by" as a domain of non-experience. They aren't just quietly tucked away as surplus "potential" with which you're not obliged to have any relation.

On the contrary, such gaps show up; they manifest in the unstoppable/inexplicable erosion of all those things you've materialized as expression of "personal preference". They appear as unanticipated, unexpected or unwanted circumstances which nonetheless bear a negative-identity to the self-selected "positive profile".

Although the deep zero value characterizing the Total potential of the mind- body pattern definitely allows for what the Ra material calls "random catalyst" (a variable which simply cannot be taken into account by the "you create your own reality" proponents), most products of omission have very identifiable correspondence to the personality-structure in question. They are drawn into the field of that personality as inevitably as the "positive" products of commission (like the mugging received by the "developer", along with his projected profits). We can of course say the "victim" still deserves his fate or has drawn his fate to himself by a quality of callousness embedded in his characteristic thought-formulae; and occasionally this interpretation may touch on some real factor involved in the negative effect. But neither the simple presence of some attitude toward elements of the ultimate negative resultant, nor explanations of residual "karma" (or anything of the kind) may adequately account for all cases in the same category.

It is just simply not true that every rape victim somehow "invited" the experience as a personal form of "commission"; the fact of each Soul being a global microcosm of Total potential, automatically means that a certain amount of experience is going to be the resultant "invitation" of sheer aggravated emptiness on the balance-sheet of the (symmetrically self-compensating) soul- record.

Note: aggravated emptiness. This then is a magnified deficiency with respect to certain outstanding principles involved in the event; it is a smooth break in the soul record with respect to a whole class of potential, the burgeoning neglect of which progressively builds a magnetic charge placing great stress upon the Whole requiring precipitous compensation. (Note again: in a world where you "create your own reality",this potential area of being needn't be taken into account as everything is strictly a reflection of personal commission i.e. what's explicitly thought, actively desired, consciously believed etc.)

Since such general deficiency with respect to a given area of being produces a massive potential for precipitating "experience" involving just those gapped elements (therefore usually a jarring experience), we may indeed be justified in concluding that such doctrines as "you create your own reality" serve unwittingly to irritate the probability of so eruptive an experience taking place. Experiences "foreign" and out-of-left-field in nature do manifestly characterize the things that sometimes befall us; they can't just be "owned" by arbitrarily identifying some active or positive thought-structure which by tortured interpretation can be teased into disgorging some vague parallelism ("Oh yes, I must have gotten that dysentery because of my dislike for Mexican architecture!").

It is, then, the standard of the Whole which weighs the balance of thought and Rules on the quality of experience. As long as one is taking an interpretive perspective on that whole which isn't directly aligned with It, the resultant reflection of one's personal self- estimates in the form of experience will resemble a maze of fractionated mirrors, first one side and then the other of one's total Presence being represented in the medium first the overt and then the hidden phase of the overall figure being shown to view.

The converse implication of this, of course, is that only in alignment and integral consonance with the Whole-value of Being may Reality be accurately manifested through the medium of "personal expression" for then there is no discrepancy between "personal" and Universal, the perspectival "part" and the indeterminate Whole. It is under this condition that the "impossible" can be manifested (i.e. that which is self-evidently beyond the power of anyone to "personally" manipulate or control).

Do you see then how AAA and MT have accomplished this Impossible thing under the noses of everyone? how, despite the disbelief and repeated double-take of the senses, the evidence of their Thaumaturgy is persistently present no matter how many times one blinks, unmistakable to anyone who'll simply look, smiling up right in the public midst of the most avid concentration? (i.e. the "Lotto", where no one ever takes his gaze away from the shuffling shells?).

Do you see how this has been an object demonstration, on an inconceivable scale, of precisely that which Drummond Riddell (and countless others for whom he implicitly speaks) has asked to know? Do you see how indeed it succinctly and fantastically (indeed absurdly!) demon- strates the "correspond and print out" reality about which Mr. Riddell and others continue to be so concerned? (for surely this literally prints out an identifiable correspondence, hmmm?). Do you see how it manifests for your general edification (and education) the truth involved in the "Visualize- Assert-Demonstrate", wishes- can-be-made-to-form principle as Mr. Riddell expresses it, without affirming the inaccurate "you create your own reality" thesis? how instead it demonstrates inconceivable efficacy and head- shaking puissance as expression of precisely that true Initiatic formula of Being taught as precious extract of the hard-won struggle characterizing every authentic Adept, i.e. alignment and integral harmony with the Spiritual Whole?

For, understood in this way (and only in this way) it may be seen that unimaginable effectiveness results when the expression of one's "personal" will is not different than or removed from the Spirit of Divine Will, i.e. the Will to reveal Spirit as the Truth and authentic character of everyone's illimitable Being. This means that, in terms of "personal will", only the Spirit of the Teaching Function remains. There is no will remaining in the repertoire of "personal will" except that which expresses perfect alignment, integration and identity with Divine Will. This is the Destiny of everyone.

Therefore, when we say for example "AAA and MT" determined "they" would make a Demonstration of the spiritual truth of Being that would be visible to and identifiable by eve- ryone in the least receptive to it, such determination cannot be accounted a strictly private decision nor can it be said to be independent of the Will of the One. (In the same way that, where Drummond believes it was strictly an act of "personal decision" to write MT his fateful "letter-of-inquiry" serving as efficient point-of-departure of the Demonstration he cannot really be confident of the "personal" Origin of that impulse.)

It's for this reason such a Demonstration, where it truly shows the "impossible" efficacy of an Awakened unity with Whole-Being Value and Spiritual Intent, doesn't simply manifest as a "magic trick" no matter how extraordinary. It is not just a pulling-of-rabbits out of a velvet Topper, or providential holding of the winning ticket of the Avatar Sweepstakes. Since such a conjuration comes about as authentic Demonstration and Expression of awakened consonance with Whole-be- ing Value, it takes the inevitable form of a thorough Teaching in Itself. It expresses in its very self-revelation the principles and processes by which it appears; it demonstrates through its own contents the Instruction of Spiritual Truth, rather than the stage-illusion of "you create your own reality". As an Expression inseparable from the Will-of-the-Whole (and, indeed, enforcing that Will in its very Intent), it has embedded in all its parts the give-away character and tell-tale identity of just that Spiritual Presence, the tireless Being of the Teacher of Man.

One last word: contrary to unwarranted popular opinion, such initiated alignment with the Will of Absolute Spirit-being does not result in "working one's will unopposed". On the contrary, the very presence of the Awakened Truth in the form of the Spiritual adept has always generated immediate opposition; it has always "awakened" a corresponding reaction from the collective ego's self-protective slumber. This fact does not belie the Whole-being efficacy of that "will" which is so aligned with the Totality. It simply means that such opposition itself, having become part of the manifesting pattern, incorporates as occasion of the Teaching Demonstration as well in whatever form expresses through the "confrontation". Initiated alignment of will with the creative Whole doesn't guarantee "smooth personal circumstances"; on the contrary, look at the story of every adept, examine the events surrounding the Masters known to history. Rather it ensures that such events will possess the character of an authentic teaching-demonstration, to all who have the Soul to see. It ensures the Will of the Whole is always done, regardless the partiality and prejudice by which that Whole may be perceived in any given case.

source: cassiopaea.org (http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/topperycyor.htm)

[Ashatav]

The skeptics they please me, they think for themselves. :thumb_yello:

Cheers!

[clarkkent]

lets be clear here-

henry deacon and gregg braden and many mnay others who speak of consciouss co creation ARENT saying that if you believe you can turn into a smurf that you will, or that if an invading army is coming you can "will" it away.

use the "matrix" movies as a parable.
they couldnt will reality to completely change, but they could in effect "hack the matrix" to be capable of more.

you can change your reality in significant ways, and your "in the drivers seat" youd be surprised how many people just think life "happens" to them and have a victim conscioussness, that they didnt CREATE most of their problems. this is a way OUT of responsibilty.

now collectivley speaking WE have CREATED this crummy situation upon us, and the real trick the elites hold over us and is the key for their manipulation is that they have TRICKED us collectivley into thinking we are powerless.

think about that, the illuminati consist of roughly about 1% of the us population if we were AWARE of our own power this would be over in a heart beat.

most people are resigned that they cant even change their own lives much less the country or our world, this is the great HOAX. and realizing that is the key.

consciouss CO creation means we affect reality together more than most can fathom.

no one is saying you can wish things away or become a superhero.
i advise you to look into what this all really means before you try to disempower people or refute what you dont understand.

-kyle

[Steve_G]

Very well said Kyle. Looks like another example of "you are powerless and have no control" propaganda to me.

[Theresa]

Yes, what I have heard and experienced is that we ARE the creators of our reality, and it is our BELIEFS which create-manifest what comes into our experience. The problem is, most of what we believe and think is SUBconscious, so we have no idea what's "in there" manifesting what comes to us until it comes into our experience.

Thats the problem with "The Secret". While it's inherently based on truth, one can't simply "order from the giant catalog of the universe" whatever one wants because most of us have subconscious beliefs that say we are not WORTHY of what we want.

This is what we are evolving to learn so intensely right now. 4th dimension consciousness says that we are responsible for ALL of our experience, and that the subconscious beliefs that WE made up create our reality.

5th dimension consciousness says that with unconditional SELF love, we forgive ourselves for making up beliefs of unworthiness, which are an extension of the ultimate belief that manifests suffering-that we ever separated from GOD. THEN we are in a state of ONENESS because we have chosen to LOVE OURSELVES first....we can not BE that which we do not allow ourselves access too...

So, we DO create our own reality...this is a very, very important truth to become willing to embrace if we are to evolve into 4th and 5th dimensional consciousness.

Spirit sources tell me that self forgiveness is the fastest way to enlightenment, and is most certainly what's called for now to move through these amazing changes.

Everything we are watching manifest "out there" right now is being created by US, and is a mirror of where humanity is in the COLLECTIVE in this process of awakening. EVERYTHING I see I am creating into my reality.

We can not become masters and conscious creators until we accept that we create all of our experience. That's how creation "expands" itself-by creating more self realized creators!

www.forgiveandawaken.com

~BLESSINGS JOY PEACE LOVE~

[Patchjacket]

You don't create your own reality any more than you create anybody elses reality.

The only thing you control is your response to the circumstance presented to you. Are you being presented an opportunity, an obstacle, or a bit of both? Or is it worth even dwelling on?

To believe that you have ultimate control, you must also believe you have ultimate responsibility and therefore should suffer guilt for everything that isn't to your own personal, self-serving benefit. This results in a whole lot cyclical navel gazing.

The "you create your own reality" rhetoric is a trap to keep you distracted from service to others.
patchjacket

[BlueSojourn]

Over the years, most of the "Conscious Creation" arguments - both for and against - seem to come from those who, for a multitude of reasons, have no clue whatsoever as to what it really means. The arguments tend to be limited only to the very narrow perceptions which the ego-mind is capable of grasping. The two absurd, worn-out, basic-facts-common-sense ("common sense" - now, there's an oxymoron for ya!) arguments presented by Mr. Topper and others are cases-in-point. By the way, how the heck did the notion of non-accountability ever get interjected into the discussion? 100% Accountability is one of the basic tenets of Conscious Creation - right along side the Law of Attraction and the Art of Allowing. And all three of those can only exist upon a foundation of TRUST.

The ego-mind cannot adequately grasp the concept of unconditional love either, yet there are very few who would actually argue that it doesn't exist. In other words, the ego proclaiming that Conscious Creation is bogus (no matter how wordy that proclamation may be) is tantamount to, say, an alligator proclaiming that unconditional love is nonsense. There are areas within human beingness where the left brain is simply unequipped to venture or to even translate. This is undoubtedly one of the primary reasons that, down through the ages, the Gnostics and the Alchemists have, for the most part, kept their gnosis to themselves.

[Phtha]

The only thing you control is your response to the circumstance presented to you. Are you being presented an opportunity, an obstacle, or a bit of both?

If you are like the vast majority of people today and live in a world of effects, then
yes it will appear that nothing you do changes anything, and you will be like a leaf
blowing in the wind.

When you start to look deeper into the cause of every event, you begin
to realize you have a lot more control then you think.

In other words it's living in a world of causation versus a world of effects.

Living in a world of causation also means working closing with the laws of
karma and darma. There's nothing "newage" about that. :biggrin2:

[doodah]

Apparently the highest teaching is that we create reality as unconsciously as we breathe. It's a function of being alive, like gravity is a function of the existence of matter. Much of our creating is unconscious and subconscious. To become conscious creators is our goal.

Radical Responsibility is, as BlueSojourn said, one of the basic precepts. You can't blame anybody for anything because you had a hand in creating it. If you are awake enough, you don't even blame yourself ... you look at your beliefs, actions, and results and change something for a better outcome ... especially as adults. Children have less say in this arrangement, certainly, but it can be said that life circumstances were chosen before birth.

I do not believe in war, death, destruction. I am a creator and believe in life. But, look around, there ARE people who believe in war! If the great river of consciousness on this planet can be turned, those beliefs can change.

The logical mind is a function of the ego structure. The ego was intended to be a bridge between the inner world and the outer world, but in our times the ego has been given too much power. All things not "logical" are denied ... a falsehood on its face which is conveniently ignored. Metaphysics and quantum physics get closer and closer together, although quantum physics is ego/logic driven. To arrive at true quantum physics, ego control must be relinquished, the same as ego must be relinquished in meditation or true meditation does not happen. At base, we are magical creatures with the enormous power of free will. How to use that free will wisely has always been the question!

[Orion Morris]

What about all the people who dont even have time to create a reality before their reality is ended or decided for them e.g. prisoners, children, handicapped people? The last thing that I have ever thought about was jail and now I have to serve weekends because of somebody elses reality that some plants are illeagle. I find it hard to believe that innocent African children want to mine diamonds all day, or that these good harted people all over the world unconciousley wanted to work in sweatshops. If you want to argue that the collective mind makes the individual subject to bad things then that is fine. I can see how the collective mind might have sinister thoughts, but the innocent individual is not subject to just what his mind creates.

[doodah]

If I may respond ... Orion, I have struggled with that question all my life ... how to explain any of that? How to explain good people dying young? My personal conclusion is that it is impossible to comprehend another person's soul purpose. There is a SOUL purpose being enacted here. The most arcane Eastern teachings suggest that it is not your place to break up a fight, for instance, because you don't know, really, what the fight is about. However ... I can't take that view. If a child is being abused and I have the power to do anything about it, I will, whether that is a right or wrong action by some higher law.

[Orion Morris]

doodah.. I agree..

[Baggywrinkle]

Things are slow here. Don't expect instant results. It also requires action
in deed. If you don't change course you will get where you are going....
just wishing won't cut it. If you doubt it, open your mouth and manifest
a meal...

The larger the mass reality the more inertia you encounter and the more difficult it is to influence mass events. It is like management by commitee,
it just isn't very efficient. What you do have control of is your own space.
When you see a train barreling down the tracks upon you, don't try and wish
it away, step off the tracks!

You must also consider the greater good and outside influence. Like immunizations for an infant, some things are beyond your direct control.
Indeed, why did the people of New Orleans manifest Katrina? Perhaps they did and perhaps they did not. What they did do was make the decision to be there in the first place, or stay when being warned to leave...

Sorry, I've been reading Sethian (Jane Roberts) philosophy since the seventies. I do already have the tee shirt and a good grasp of what works.

[Orion Morris]

What about people like Gary McKinnon? He was doing good and I am sure he never thought he would get caught. Let alone be the one hacker that they decide to make an example out of. Or how about Lennon, King jr. Bill Hicks, and the hundreds of others who died when it seemed this world needed them the most?

I agree with you Braggywrinkle, and I think that your arguement is correct, I just have questions.

[Theresa]

I thought Neitzche was dead......!:wink2:

[Baggywrinkle]

What about people like Gary McKinnon? He was doing good and I am sure he never thought he would get caught. Let alone be the one hacker that they decide to make an example out of. Or how about Lennon, King jr. Bill Hicks, and the hundreds of others who died when it seemed this world needed them the most?

I agree with you Braggywrinkle, and I think that your arguement is correct, I just have questions.

According to Sethian philosphy you must consider the multi dimentional nature
of reality. At each point where you had a near death experience there is a
fork in the road. In one reality you did die, in the other you dodged the bullet.
All possible outcomes actually occurred. The "official" reality really isn't when
viewed from the perspective of the oversoul. This doesn't even touch on
agreements between individuals such as the victim who attracts the predator.
The agreement done so that each may know how it feels. As a spiritual being
having a human experience we strive to experience all that human means.

I refer you to the classic book by Joseph Campbell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_with_a_Thousand_Faces

These lofty ideals do not change life in the trenches a whit. Except perhaps
that you might pray to the you that you will be for insight into the thorny
problem at hand and then listen to your oversoul for answers. Or when you
comfort the child that you once were at a particularly trying point in your
life. From the perspective of omnipresent, there is no future and there is
no past. There is only now. The question is, how large is your now?

[DoctorTony]

Mind control groups and propaganda have been around since the birth of the cosmos. Religions, media, social order, schooling, etc., just about any type of organized something has been infiltrated, to some point, by powers of controlled agendas working to disrupt, corrupt, and any other upt they can use as a means of dumming down the individual. They could be othe-dimensional for all we know or homegrown haters.
The New Age movement is no different. If we are supposed to co-create then why are we on this website in the first place? If it really is about fear & love dichotomies then why are we here? All I have seen, well the majority anyway, are threads concerning the possible future of war, chaos, comets, nibiru, alien draconian crazies, what to do when a tsunami hits your coastal home (do you think you will have time to flee), coronal ejections from the sun (can I get this on HiDef TV so I can be warned?) and all of this mind control fear-based garbage that - yes- does have significance. Because, without the negative aspect, you don't have a positive aspect. Yin/Yang, right/wrong, black/white, up/down, etc. The dichotomy is presented to discern. Why is my agenda any different from anyone elses'? It could be evil to you. It is peaceful and abundant for all to me, though. It is for YOU to interpret.
The only thing keeping me from going nuts right now is that I have studied astrology and the yugas.
There is some return of the cosmos alignment going on here that I don't want to miss. Even if it is false or a hype. Humans have to believe in something or they truly have nothing.
It is the only hope I have left before I turn into one of "them" - those that choose to fear. I thought all we needed was hope the size of a mustard seed. If I plant a tree it will grow, given there is sun and light. It will eventually grow into a forest. I never would see that coming from a little seed had I not known that. That is blind faith. Take it or leave it.
Negative seeds have been planted. I'm spitting mine back out!:thumbdown:

[Birdwoman]

I am on this Forum because I use Intention to change my own reality, and want to contact other who wish to change our global reality with the Creator's permission and for the highest good of all concerned. In order to do that, we must coordinate our Intentions with as many individuals as possible to make any differences to the present reality. I don't mean to "advertise", but my website explains it more fully..... www.futurerealities.info
Hugs, Birdwoman

[STARCHILD]

Hello Co-Creators!
Quantum physics shows us that 'we' are the OBSERVER collapsing wave FORMS into solid form.

WE DO create our reality and QUANTUM PHYSICS has shown this to be the case.

What ever we place in our FRONTAL LOBE 'WILL' manifest.That is universal law.Provided we do not self-sabotage the manifestation by ie-living in our past,continuously re-running the OLD PROGRAMME.It takes work and dedication.

I recommend watching the 'WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW?' film.It is an absolutely brilliant film.And describes in great detail 'how we create our own reality'.The film explains how past,present and future all 'exist' together at the SAME TIME!Also multiple realities,ALL potentials existing 'side-by-side,re-wiring the brain, and so much more... Beautiful!x
What the bleep is followed by another fantastic film called 'WHAT THE BLEEP-'DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE'.This Follow up film is brilliant! It takes us further 'down the rabbit-hole,and explains in greater depth,subjects such as- THE QUANTUM FIELD,how we become 'addicted' to our emotions,The Holographic Universe,being Co-Creators and creating personal Reality and taking control and responsibility for our lifes...to name just a few of the subjects on this fabulous film...

Creating your own reality really has nothing to do with 'New Age'.This knowledge dates back to 'ancient times' when Humanity had fantastic knowledge.

The fact is we are 'immensly powerful beings' with the capabilities to create anything and everything!And my word we do! We are really wonderful!!Humans are truely wonderful beings who are in the process of 'remembering' who we really are.
Quantum Physics does a brilliant job of explaining how we create our own reality.
We as a race will become a race of beautiful beings who are proud to 'take responsibilty' for our own actions.Knowing that we do create our own reality ensures that we 'do' take responsibilty for everything we 'think,say and do'.Time for us all to grow and evolve.What an amazing time to be here on Earth!No wonder so many souls have 'chosen' to be here at this time!!

At a sub-Atomic level WE 'are' ALL ONE.

look-up**QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT** IT IS 'BEAUTIFUL'!!


We are 'sub-concious mind'

Thankyou for this thread x

[realist]

The New York Times, September 24, 2008
Op-Ed Contributor
The Power of Negative Thinking
By BARBARA EHRENREICH

GREED — and its crafty sibling, speculation — are the designated culprits for the financial crisis. But another, much admired, habit of mind should get its share of the blame: the delusional optimism of mainstream, all-American, positive thinking.

As promoted by Oprah Winfrey, scores of megachurch pastors and an endless flow of self-help best sellers, the idea is to firmly believe that you will get what you want, not only because it will make you feel better to do so, but because “visualizing” something — ardently and with concentration — actually makes it happen. You will be able to pay that adjustable-rate mortgage or, at the other end of the transaction, turn thousands of bad mortgages into giga-profits if only you believe that you can.

Positive thinking is endemic to American culture — from weight loss programs to cancer support groups — and in the last two decades it has put down deep roots in the corporate world as well. Everyone knows that you won’t get a job paying more than $15 an hour unless you’re a “positive person,” and no one becomes a chief executive by issuing warnings of possible disaster.

The tomes in airport bookstores’ business sections warn against “negativity” and advise the reader to be at all times upbeat, optimistic, brimming with confidence. It’s a message companies relentlessly reinforced — treating their white-collar employees to manic motivational speakers and revival-like motivational events, while sending the top guys off to exotic locales to get pumped by the likes of Tony Robbins and other success gurus. Those who failed to get with the program would be subjected to personal “coaching” or shown the door.

The once-sober finance industry was not immune. On their Web sites, motivational speakers proudly list companies like Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch among their clients. What’s more, for those at the very top of the corporate hierarchy, all this positive thinking must not have seemed delusional at all. With the rise in executive compensation, bosses could have almost anything they wanted, just by expressing the desire. No one was psychologically prepared for hard times when they hit, because, according to the tenets of positive thinking, even to think of trouble is to bring it on.

Americans did not start out as deluded optimists. The original ethos, at least of white Protestant settlers and their descendants, was a grim Calvinism that offered wealth only through hard work and savings, and even then made no promises at all. You might work hard and still fail; you certainly wouldn’t get anywhere by adjusting your attitude or dreamily “visualizing” success.

Calvinists thought “negatively,” as we would say today, carrying a weight of guilt and foreboding that sometimes broke their spirits. It was in response to this harsh attitude that positive thinking arose — among mystics, lay healers and transcendentalists — in the 19th century, with its crowd-pleasing message that God, or the universe, is really on your side, that you can actually have whatever you want, if the wanting is focused enough.

When it comes to how we think, “negative” is not the only alternative to “positive.” As the case histories of depressives show, consistent pessimism can be just as baseless and deluded as its opposite. The alternative to both is realism — seeing the risks, having the courage to bear bad news and being prepared for famine as well as plenty. We ought to give it a try.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/opinion/24ehrenreich.html

:mfr_omg:

[doodah]

Ah. You are asking people to be wise. Haven't noticed much wisdom around these days, sad to say. Like the bailout talks going on. Reward the thieves? Or not reward the thieves? To me, that's an absurd question on its face. Yet they debate. Where is wisdom in all this?

[Operator]

Hi,

Remember that we're all one ...

ACTING all together as ONE is the most powerful thing ....
Indeed it's not a matter of wishing but straight action !

I think this forum is great ! However sometimes I think we talk too much instead of turning our words to deeds ...

My perception of the ground crew is that we can organize the physical/local groups using the forum. And we keep in touch for exchanging ideas and knowledge.

But we need to start DOING instead of debating over and over again about some (same) issues.

So can anyone tell me how your food is growing in your backyard ?
Strange but true: I started growing my own veggies a month ago ... my children love to get involved !
Some seeds are doing well and some unfortunately failed. But that's just the learning curve.

A windmill is half way done and I have experimented before how to get fresh water from sea water using solar energy.
I do this together with my neighbors who are very interested in this stuff.

Was it indeed coincidence that I moved into my, what seems, my natural radiant zone approx. 5 years ago ?

Keep it going folks !

[Phtha]

Sorry realist but believing anything that comes from NYTimes is equivalent to
believing that 3 huge steel structured buildings came down from two fires.

It defies all logic (and in the latter case physics). :tongue2:


Nearly anyone, even the most materialistic of us, will believe that everything
has a cause. The further and further down the chain of causes you go, the more you realize why things are happening in not only your life, but others as well.

[Baggywrinkle]

Hi,


So can anyone tell me how your food is growing in your backyard ?
Strange but true: I started growing my own veggies a month ago ... my children love to get involved !
Some seeds are doing well and some unfortunately failed. But that's just the learning curve.

A windmill is half way done and I have experimented before how to get fresh water from sea water using solar energy.


Keep it going folks !

Our bloody butcher heirloom corn stands 15 feet tall. The kentucky pole beans
wind round the stalks and zuccini squash carpets the ground around them.

A classic three sisters garden. I believe Buffalo Bird Woman would approve...

We have de-emphasized electricity because time is short. Our kerosene
is ready for the lamps and buckets just need water from the pump for hauling.

We put strontium based phosphorescent tape around the house so we can
navigate in the dark. It is visable throughout the night....

[Operator]

Thanks Baggywrinkle,

Sounds great ... but you've probably been working a little longer on this already ? Great example though !

Well in previous times I have been living for periods only carrying a backpack and live from that. So I thought if that's possible then
why all the fuzz when living in an urban area ?

I was sick and tired of traffic jams, the rat-race etc. I literally didn't feel human anymore by all standards !!
I absolutely rejected that kind of a living ... so I moved to the Caribbean.

I am also trying to cut down on most things. Reduce consumption ...
If you are less dependent on 'whatever' you start feel like a free human again.

I've built my own simple home ... with no mortgage !

One day I wished there was no money at all ... so people had to find another way to deal with each other. Given the crisis it
almost looks like I already proof the topic of this thread is not true .. :naughty:

Thanks again for your reply ... now let's hear some replies from other folks making a change from urban style to a more natural one.

Cheers

[Baggywrinkle]

This is indeed manifesting your reality. We are all on a journey.

Decide on your destination.

Plot your course.

Put in your supplies

set sail...

and don't forget your daily sun fix to correct along the way.

There is nothing magical about it...

or perhaps everything is magical about it.

[Frank Samuel]

The problem in creating our own reality, is that our mind is bombarded by so much trash all day every day. Bad music, commecials on tv, radio. The auto suggestion button is on all the time. We just do not notice it. Far worse are the experiments done with frequencies which alters your ability to connect to reality; HAARP side effects are dementia, depression , confusion, agression, suicidal tendencies. This is a very effective weapon, yes indeed! How do you break out of that cycle, if you do not even know that these things are affecting your thoughts on a daily basis? This is where if you ask me our own goverment is controling your thoughts and you are not even aware of it.
It is a sad state of affairs.. But yes there is hope and we all can snap out of it and deflect these damaging influences, the first step is be aware. Yes you can control the thoughts of others, is already being done my friend every day ! Welcome to goverment control 101, step right in what will your daily dose be ? :roftl::shocked::yikes::bleh:

[Theresa]

great post, starchild! And sounds like a little slice of heaven, baggy wrinkle...:lol3:

I think while we debate whether we create our own reality or not, we are continuing to do so! Maybe the sooner we take up CONSCIOUS creation, the better, oui?

~LOVE TO ALL~

[OceanWinds]

What a lame post... you didnt even write it. You just threw posted a pile of garbage rhetoric you picked up on the net, and then posted. *yawn*

STARCHILD IS CORRECT!!!

There is huge amounts of overwhelming data in every field that shows that we create our reality. The relatively new field of quantum physics is blowing apart the Newtonian paradigm, and how experiment results easily change just because of the person observing them. But this was obviously not included in the post. Anyway this thread is boring... and stinks so bad I wanna gag.

I suggest everyone vote this thread a single star, and let it roll to the bottom of the heap.

[PodWORLD]

Uncertainty principle?

It might be but sometimes it's just people wanting their work to be true
and to be remembered.

M theory says there are 11 dimensions instead of ten - so it can be 'elegant'.

Quantum physics is full of excellent minds doing good work and also some less excellent minds talking twaddle and creating pretty pictures for computer models.

People stating with certainty that you create your own reality have read books and looked online as well as within to form this opinion.

Some are not so fortunate.

[777 The Great Work]

Thanks Baggywrinkle,

Sounds great ... but you've probably been working a little longer on this already ? Great example though !

Well in previous times I have been living for periods only carrying a backpack and live from that. So I thought if that's possible then
why all the fuzz when living in an urban area ?

I was sick and tired of traffic jams, the rat-race etc. I literally didn't feel human anymore by all standards !!
I absolutely rejected that kind of a living ... so I moved to the Caribbean.

I am also trying to cut down on most things. Reduce consumption ...
If you are less dependent on 'whatever' you start feel like a free human again.

I've built my own simple home ... with no mortgage !

One day I wished there was no money at all ... so people had to find another way to deal with each other. Given the crisis it
almost looks like I already proof the topic of this thread is not true .. :naughty:

Thanks again for your reply ... now let's hear some replies from other folks making a change from urban style to a more natural one.

Cheers

Look around you and you will see with your own posessions that they are existing proof of what you know and how you think.

[sunnyrap]

I have a somewhat simplistic but I think effective model of the 'create your own reality' thing that might be helpful to some.

In my mind, I view each human as a kind of 'laser projector' who puts energy in a (hopefully) focused stream onto reality. We are responsible for what we project, and for what we receive from our own and other's projections, based on where/what we focus on. And individual 'lasers' can be more or less powerful, of course, based on their own self/other limitation. Which is why our experience is such a fluid thing. Just like three lasers intersecting creates a 3D simulacrum, our intersecting views-intentions create 3D reality. ("wherever two or more of you are gathered, there I AM also..." --i.e., the Divine Creative). It only takes two to create a private experience, but that will be impacted peripherally by the construct we are all agreeing on and co-creating daily. The two are free to specifically create within the framework of the larger agreement. If the larger group is unaware (unfocused) on the two's creation, it can move along in a fairly unhampered way. The larger the cooperating group of 'lasers', the larger and more powerful the creation.

That is why Buckminister Fuller said it only takes a dedicated few to turn a much larger group in a new direction, but that few needs to be a critical mass of the whole. I think that is why the relatively small group of 'controllers' have been able to do so much by impacting reality secretly, therefore uncontestedly. Now that they are exposed, their creation is getting a LOT of interference, and they no longer have a critical mass operating without impediment. Besides, their creation was based on exclusivity--cutting out huge chunks of conscious beings on the planet for the sake of grabbing the assets we all co-created. How foolish of them--it's a plan with a built in weakness. Take away all the co-creators and the creation starts to go away like the 'vaporware' it is. Their focussing mechanisms are downright archaic. Techniques of creating a massive emotional jolt behind an intention using horrifying, staged experiences that no sane person wants a repeat of? Effective in the dark ages, but now that we have peak experiences from much more life affirming directions--how can it compete?

A group of creators like Bill & Kerry's has an opportunity to quickly outgrow the old-style controller group, simply because theirs is based on a far more inclusive, positive orientation. It can and has snowballed and can gain creative power very quickly. Especially if their group is willing and able to focus with great power, integrity and commitment on goals that demonstrably serve us all. (Which looks like the game, here to me).

The exciting thing about current events is that old 3D models are breaking up. People like Braden and Lipton and others are showing us we can create outside these old, restrictive structures and need not be bound by longstanding agreements that served us in our infancy but that have become too small for us. These men and those who are aligned with their vision are creating seeming miracles by just utilizing programmed in abilities we're just becoming aware of--like young birds finding their wings.

Old structures have to fall before we can erect the new ones. When there are radical changes called for, rebuild is more efficient than remodel every time. And we have to stay outside of the fallout line while that happens. That's the preparation phase. Where prudent foresight and action is required of us. This is not fear, it really is just practicality.

I believe that desire for physical accouterments will eventually be dropped in favor of much more exciting creations. (I think many peoples on this planet are there, really). But it takes a critical mass of people sincerely seeing the validity of this, and letting go of fear of not having their toys and props before this can be so.

[371]

Reality is subjective. If you TRULY BELIEVE you are a smurf- (to use CLARK KENT's example) you ARE a smurf, except everyone else still perceives you as a regular human.

YOU create your OWN reality, but not CONSENSUS reality (though I believe you can affect it on a very small scale). Reality is how you perceive the world, not what happens to you. So no, you can't control what happens to you just by thinking thoughts but through your actions, which are influenced by your own reality. And though we (most of us) share consensus reality, are OWN realities are unique to a degree. This is my opinion.

[Sherab]

From my perspective, we all seem to be just one unified field of consciousness that is mysteriously able to diversify into "individuals" with "choices". Ultimately, I think this debate has no resolution because you get into trying to define and point to what we are, which is impossible to do with concepts and words.

[Morgan]

I think some of the posts here touched on the various aspects of reality creation, which is good. It's a broad topic that I do not believe humans have a 100% grasp of - we might be at 30% or 80% or even 97%, but I don't think even the top researchers in the game know everything.

What of people who have crappy lives, bad luck, etc? To that I say, when one does not consciously intend for things, and take action toward an end, then life just sort of happens. Whether this is 'creating reality' or not, I don't know. But to me, not thinking or being aware of horrors/pleasures does not make one immune or safe from them. It's often the things we refuse to look at that bite us hardest.

One has to account for the subconscious, the conditioning from society, etc. IE. if you get it drummed into you to be a certain way, or feel certain emotions, etc. But you decide to start affirmations, they might work or they might not depending on how deeply ingrained the negative stuff was. You could have scripts running that you don't even know about. And disbelief is a huge one.

But, like I say, no one has all the answers, if you've never honestly tried it for yourself, and tried it over time, then you don't know from experience.

[Sherab]

I think this sums it up pretty well....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKWnv2mDbU

[Bigleap]

Be brave. Live out your Karma. Prepare for your next incarnation. Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread. You chose to incarnate at this point in time. Evolve your consciousness. Always remember that the Creator has in mind all that is, was and can ever be. You are precious. You have been in creation for eons. You are still being created. You are not finished. You play your part by looking towards loftier heights and yearning to attain that which is your divine heritage. Beware of materialistic magic. It is a trap. Only the spirit endures. You are immortal. Lift your consciousness up and make it immortal too.

[arcora]

The idea of creating your own reality by thinking happy thoughts is ludicrous.

Perhaps it is possible to create it by small actions which reverberate with cause and effect - but not likely.

It is possible that we all create our own group reality by what we think and believe.

However, to think that a small rag tag group of happy thinkers can overcome the will of a large group of well organized and powerful Illuminati who have a definite plan and are backed by the fearful thinking of the masses, is delusional.

[2infinityandbeyond]

Each one of us has the power to create our reality through manifestation. This manifestation is a physical process and is not simply magic, *poof* a million euros.. you must go through a process. Manifestation draws to you what you focus on.

But then you must consider that when 6billion people are doing this constantly you are going to be at the mercy of other peoples manifestations.

The people who are victoms of war rape etc did not draw it to them by thinking about it, they let it sneak up on them by lack of awareness.

When someone is unaware of the laws of the universe they are at the mercy of it. It really is that simple, if i live my life completely unaware then i am at the mercy of the tides of life. But when i choose to be aware everything changes.

If there is a war coming and i am aware, and i wish to live a peacefull life then i will be directed to a place where there is no war. - As long as experiencing that war is not im my 'karmic' life plan.

And also as someone already stated life is not going to be great all the time. Many of us come here to learn, and we do this through bad as well as good experiences. We must experience certain negative things in order for us to grow. Call it a life plan if you like. But aside from that you can create every aspect of your reality and that is for certain. But not by magic, one must take action and interact with the world. This is the 3rd density, manifestation is possible but only where there is action taken.

And i completely agree its nothing like what the secret states. That is completely ludicrous, the process is much more complicated then that. If someone chooses to go down this avenue of thinking i would highly recommend broadening your study outside of the mainstream knowledge like 'The Secret' etc. The government has never allowed the people anything that will truly serve and empower them.

And trust me, if the majority of souls on this planet were worthy of living this 'life of dreams' they would not be here in the first place. That is further down the line of spiritual evolution. This world is not just a playground, it is primarily a school. The playground is further up the ladder.

Beware of mainstream garbage. I cannot believe they dont teach this **** in school, but then again if they did and this world was a better place the majority of souls currently incarnated now would not be here, they would be somewhere equally as challenging as earth is right now.

This is short and sweet but im sure you get the point.

[arcora]

Each one of us has the power to create our reality through manifestation. This manifestation is a physical process and is not simply magic, *poof* a million euros.. you must go through a process. Manifestation draws to you what you focus on.

But then you must consider that when 6billion people are doing this constantly you are going to be at the mercy of other peoples manifestations.

The people who are victoms of war rape etc did not draw it to them by thinking about it, they let it sneak up on them by lack of awareness.

When someone is unaware of the laws of the universe they are at the mercy of it. It really is that simple, if i live my life completely unaware then i am at the mercy of the tides of life. But when i choose to be aware everything changes.

If there is a war coming and i am aware, and i wish to live a peacefull life then i will be directed to a place where there is no war.

This is short and sweet but im sure you get the point.


Manifest a unicorn in your backyard, snap a photo and I'll believe you.

[2infinityandbeyond]

Manifest a unicorn in your backyard, snap a photo and I'll believe you.

I never said i could manifest a unicorn in my backyard. As with everything there are limitations.

I could debate this further but i feel that everyone should be their own teacher, and considering that we have an abundance of information online your pretty well set up to research this yourself, right now i just dont have the time to explain the process because ;

A. I dont know 100% how it works.

B. It is a very broad topic that would take hundreds of pages the discuss indepth to the point of it being understandible.

c. I really dont have the time to do that right now.

[Steve_G]

This is pointless guys. Those of you who know about creating your own reality and what it really means will not convince those who don't, because the reality they're creating for themselves is that it isn't possible to create your own reality!

Why do they believe that? Because the Illuminati have been programming that belief into them since birth through religion, "education", mass media and all the other systems they set up for precisely that reason. That's what mass mind control IS! That's why they spent hundreds of years decimating any culture or group that didn't immediately buy into their bu*****t.

It's up to them if they wake up to that or not. That's what free will is all about. It's a massive jump from powerless victim consciousness to conscious creation- how many people here made it all in one go?

"Whether you believe you can or you can't, you're right." Henry Ford

Peace, love and RESPECT to all. :wink2:

[2infinityandbeyond]

This is pointless guys. Those of you who know about creating your own reality and what it really means will not convince those who don't, because the reality they're creating for themselves is that it isn't possible to create your own reality!

Why do they believe that? Because the Illuminati have been programming that belief into them since birth through religion, "education", mass media and all the other systems they set up for precisely that reason. That's what mass mind control IS! That's why they spent hundreds of years decimating any culture or group that didn't immediately buy into their bu*****t.

It's up to them if they wake up to that or not. That's what free will is all about. It's a massive jump from powerless victim consciousness to conscious creation- how many people here made it all in one go?

"Whether you believe you can or you can't, you're right." Henry Ford

Peace, love and RESPECT to all. :wink2:

Good point.

[2infinityandbeyond]

And i would just like to add, anyone who thinks that we dont create our own reality, consider this ;

Take a look around you, every material object you see is the product of a thought. It started out as a thought, and it came into existance by action.

That is what manifestation is all about. Its all around us and its nothing magic, we do it every single day.

[edit] I can only use my own experience as an example. The other day i was talking to this girl i know, she was texting like the world was gonna end tomorrow so i just thought in my mind "I want her texting to cool off for a bit so i can catch my breath" I didnt hear from her for 30 minutes and when i did i got three texts all at once, late deliverys.

After that i thought "I want to talk on the phone instead of this crap" , moments later she text me asking me to ring her, which i did.

And even after that, I thought "It may be a good thing if my computer just died" , less then half an hour later a text came through on my phone and my computer flat out died. It would not turn back on so i just left it and went into the sitting room. Again, i thought "I want my computer to work again" , when i came back in i turned it on and it was working perfectly again.

As i said, i can only give my own experience. My days are filled with stuff like this, and im in no position to force my opinions on anyone, all i can do is offer my truth in the hope that you will take it on trust.

Honestly, i dont care if you believe this or not. Your shooting yourself in the foot, It works for me, it enriches my life everyday and i like to share it. If you want to call me a liar then your doing so at your own cost, makes no odds to me.

Manifestation is not just clean cut think a thought and boom it happens. You must be in the proper state of mind, and have a calm, positive and loving attitude. It will work for you if you remove the barrior of doubt from your mind. It works for me only sometimes, and its most definitly the state of mind that is important, and it is usually fleeting thoughts that are more effective. Ive found i do it most often by accident and this has given me some insight into the process. Hope this post serves someone well, i dont expect it to serve everyone, but if it just helps one person then it was worth the effort of writing.

Happy living folks, lifes not as mundane as most people make out.

Peace and best wishes

infinity

[2infinityandbeyond]

[edit] - not constructive

[arcora]

I will expand and clarify my remarks.

Creating your own reality and excersising free will are two different but related things.

To make a blanket statement that we create our own reality implies that one can make lightning bolts shoot from their eyeballs, turn the sky green and win the lottery all in the same day. We as individuals can impact our reality but we cannot create it.

We can manifest the things we need and sometimes the things we want. We cannot change the shared group conciousness that we perceive as reality no matter how much positive thinking or love we throw out into the cosmos.

We cannot change reality with our free will because of free will. The phrase 'battle of wills' needs to be understood. How can I turn the sky green with my will when 6 billion people choose to see it blue? Even if all 6 billion of us willed it green would that be enough to overcome the will of God our Creator? I think not.

Free will is what we use to navigate our shared reality. God gave it to us to use as we see fit - either for positive or negative influence. This is a slippery slope. Karmic response cannot be fully understood by the individual. You may set out to do somethiing with good intentions that ends up having disastrous karmic consequences.

What if I use my free will to manifest one million dollars - then my long lost aunt Hortence dies and bequeaths the money to me? The karmic implications of that are severe.

This is why God doesn't like people to practice the occult. Aleister Crowley said 'do what thou will shall be the whole of the law'. This creates a sort of karmic anarchy with each individual attempting to manifest what they want or think is best.

God has a plan for everyone. When one can tune his individual free will into harmony with God's will true miracles happen. The individual's will posesses a tiny fraction of the power of God's will. When one can align his free will with God's will, the power of God's will becomes manifest in the individual.

[2infinityandbeyond]

[edit] Deleted - Ive made the choice to not debate or quaral about things that people should have enough common sense to comprehend by themselves.

From now on the human race can do whatever the hell and think whatever it damn well likes!

Any efforts to help them, or enlighten them are completely futile and i would not be respecting myself to continue trying to make a difference.

People are stuck here for a reason, it is their ignorance and their arrogance that lock them in their mental prisons and there they shall stay until they take responsibility to take back control of how they use their minds.

End of discussion for me, each person much learn this stuff on their own.

[arcora]

...Instead why not try and expand upon the whole concept, because it is a force in the universe that needs to be explained, not quarreled over.

That is what I was attempting to do.

[2infinityandbeyond]

That is what I was attempting to do.

I wasnt refering to you. I was refering to the idiots who post quotes from other people without a clue of whether it was true or not. Continuing to add to the ignorance of the human race, my god.. excuse me but this just pisses me right off!

[arcora]

I wasnt refering to you...


I'm sorry. When you quoted my entire post that expanded on my views (before you deleted it) I thought you were referring to me.

[andromeda]

We create our reality but there are levels of creation

a) Personal level = synchronicity

b) Collective level = the will of the common conscioussness of humanity

More uplifting, loving and creative thoughts = peace + abundance

More negative thoughts like greed, hatred, anger = limitation + lack + pain

How many thoughts a day that are positive or negative manifest in your life as obtaining what you want.

Same applies to humanking, for the moment it seems that all is bad but, is it really?

The fall of a destructive system can be interpreted as a positive sign that things are indeed changing for the better and eventually they will get better.

Additionally

There are other laws to consider

- The law of cause and effect that can be altered only by profound forgiveness

- The law of balance

Other things to consider are the will of the Planet, Solar System and Galaxy... which is why 2012 will successfully take the planet into the 5ft dimension with humanity or without it...

Want to ascend, increase the quotient of light to 100 pct. That is 100 pct of positive thoughts or loving thoughts...

Love and light

[Sanat]

The new age version of "the law of attraction" is that what you think and focus on will manifest. There is truth in this, but things are really not that simple (otherwise we would all be rich/"perfect" etc.:original:). For instance; are you in control of your thoughts? Are you even the author of your thoughts most of the time?

The reality that is reflected back to you is in concordance with your "Level of Consciousness (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=14)". A person in the lower end of the scale has a thousand and one different desires etc. and all these desires generate thoughts that are trying to fulfill those desires. Will he manifest the fulfillment of any of these desires? No, usually he will simply manifest more desires and chaos as that - in reality - is his focus... (look at the typical "small time" criminal type).

The higher you climb on the scale the more you are able to focus your energy. Thus, your power to reach goals and "manifest" things increase accordingly. But at the same time you become more and more satisfied and grateful for what you already have, so now you would rather share this happiness with others instead of manifesting more stuff for yourself. This leads to the road of "selfless service".

Most people trying to use "the secret" to manifest a new car, a house, a million fed. notes etc. will be disappointed and forget the whole thing pretty fast. Your level of consciousness is not determined by "what you think", rather what you think is an indication of your level of consciousness. To really manifest postive changes in your life it is necassary to grow in awareness and climb the ladder of consciousness. Wishful thinking does not lead anywhere but to more wishful thinking... At the top of the scale there are no thoughts at all because all desires are gone.

Here is a great little article which elaborate on this scale and how to climb it:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/04/levels-of-consciousness/

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/04/raising-your-consciousness/

[mikey]

there are no coincidences...

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3467

peace

bananaman

[Realview]

There is one reality and an infinite number of illusions.

The Supreme Being so arranges things that we are informed of changes and actions we are about to exercise. The ego takes credit thinking it is "Our" idea and "Our" action but in reality it is all the Supreme Being leading. No one has ever been able to really, concisely, clearly, explain why they do anything, think anything, much less miraculously create anything, but we all rush to say "We're" empowered and doing this or that when it appeals to our false identity.

The true Supreme Being is the creator.

Buried in matter as we are, only an infinitesimal part of truth seeps through.

Good is what causes the spirit to go inward and upward, bad causes it to go outward and downward. Sin is dissipating the spirit into matter. Virtue is in concentrating and drawing it upwards.

[Steven]

The best thing I can say to the OP is learn the Universal Laws and apply them in your Life. Only the four primary of our dimension.

After a 12 days, come here and tell me what you have learned.

Namaste, Steven

[unlimited mind]

Hello Co-Creators!
Quantum physics shows us that 'we' are the OBSERVER collapsing wave particles into solid form.

WE DO create our reality and QUANTUM PHYSICS has shown this to be the case.

What ever we place in our FRONTAL LOBE 'WILL' manifest.That is universal law.Provided we do not self-sabotage the manifestation by ie-living in our past,continuously re-running the OLD PROGRAMME.It takes work and dedication.

I recommend watching the 'WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW?' film.It is an absolutely brilliant film.And describes in great detail 'how we create our own reality'.The film explains how past,present and future all 'exist' together at the SAME TIME!Also multiple realities,ALL potentials existing 'side-by-side,re-wiring the brain, and so much more... Beautiful!x
What the bleep is followed by another fantastic film called 'WHAT THE BLEEP-'DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE'.This Follow up film is brilliant! It takes us further 'down the rabbit-hole,and explains in greater depth,subjects such as- THE QUANTUM FIELD,how we become 'addicted' to our emotions,The Holographic Universe,being Co-Creators and creating personal Reality and taking control and responsibility for our lifes...to name just a few of the subjects on this fabulous film...

Creating your own reality really has nothing to do with 'New Age'.This knowledge dates back to 'ancient times' when Humanity had fantastic knowledge.

The fact is we are 'immensly powerful beings' with the capabilities to create anything and everything!And my word we do! We are really wonderful!!Humans are truely wonderful beings who are in the process of 'remembering' who we really are.
Quantum Physics does a brilliant job of explaining how we create our own reality.
We as a race will become a race of beautiful beings who are proud to 'take responsibilty' for our own actions.Knowing that we do create our own reality ensures that we 'do' take responsibilty for everything we 'think,say and do'.Time for us all to grow and evolve.What an amazing time to be here on Earth!No wonder so many souls have 'chosen' to be here at this time!!
Love & unity x

At a sub-Atomic level WE 'are' ALL ONE.

We are 'sub-concious mind'
Thankyou for this thread x

you are an entity after my own heart star child. thank you for speaking to this. this is a very important thing for folks to realize when they are discerning their own awareness levels.

in the state that social consciousness is in, a movie like 'the secret' was like a wake up call to break the ice. this got people talking and thinking in a new way. but the bad thing was, there was no information laid into the brain for that information to grow from.

understanding how our minds work is a pretty crucial step into becoming a more conscious being i think. and quantum physics explains it very nicely these days.

we all could do with a bit more education on the frequency bands or the omni particle, and how to tap into the energy that is all around us.

here is an example of consciousness within the light spectrum...we all live in the hertzian frequency band, it is called sub consciousness. infrared represents the social consciousness, visible light represents awareness, ultraviolet = bridge consciousness, xray = super consciousness,
gamma ray = hyper consciousness, infinite unknown or point zero = ultra consciousness.

the decent of consciousness begins from point zero, where we fall down thru all those frequencies into hertzian, it is called INVOLUTION. this is when we are in our light bodies planning our trip, eh!

once we arrive in hertzian, we then have experiences that evolve our perceptions about who we are, and each and every learning experience always starts and then evolves back to point zero. that is called EVOLUTION.

learning how to travel between the light spectrum, or frequency bands, within the body we inhabit is what spiritual warriors came here to do. and to understand how to do that, we must all understand how our brains function. and we have 3 brains inside our head. this is the new age tool of TOOLS.

by doing this, we become aware that by manipulating our body chemistry to create hormonal releases by the glands inside our brain, it increases our chances of accessing higher frequencies within the light spectrum.

you can't expect to create a reality shift because you SAY you are going to. it takes work within the mind in order to create the chemicals that are needed to magnetize that experience to you. ask and you will receive is a bit understated.

even though when we ask, we do indeed receive. but what we receive depends on the experiences we are currently prepared for as far as frequency is concerned. we eventually do make it through the labyrinth and find what we are seeking.

having a clear consiousness is the fastest way to manifest a reality shift. some call being a spiritual warrior the great work. you have to retrain your brain for greatness. :D

but in order for a massive scale awakening can manifest, the truth of what and who we are needs to be exposed. this is why camelot and avalon are so very important. the truth will indeed set you free.

[paigetheoracle]

It might be better to say we radiate our own reality i.e. project out into the external world what we'd like to see there 'but' there are other beings there. The way I look at it is that there are two streams of reality - one positive (building) and one negative (destroying). When we give into despair, we destroy all links with the world as when we hope, we create links with it (We make God in our unity and the Devil by our disunity). So, while in theory we should stay positive because it is good for us, in fact we don't because reality is composed of both these factors and it gets boring to stay in the same lane of reality all the time (white out conditions, blinding us to the contrast that only dark and light can bring - we all live and we all die [life is voluntary - death is obligatory; 'Nobody gets out of here alive']), plus personal reality needs to connect with social reality, to blossom and grow: It's no good being a live cell in a dead body as everybody else's toxicity eventually gets to you anyway as I've found (If they press the button, you need to be underground or off planet, not to get sucked into the doom laden, enemies under the bed brigade: Every man for himself in the sinking ship of state, that's in a state. Disconnect and survive or go down with the negative attitude and actions of the Bean Men (Been Men) from Jason and the Argonauts (Not the film, the original legend).

[Alexandra]

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