Disappearing threads?

[arcora]

I keep noticing threads disappearing.

Are they being deleted?

[Cookie]

Hi, Arcora...

Threads aren't and shouldn't be deleted..I've been doing some housekeeping and moving some threads to more appropriate boards. I've been leaving 2 day re-directs so people can find them.

Cookie

[arcora]

Hi, Arcora...

Threads aren't and shouldn't be deleted..I've been doing some housekeeping and moving some threads to more appropriate boards. I've been leaving 2 day re-directs so people can find them.

Cookie

The most recent one to disappear began as a discussion about guns and became a very interesting discussion about the morality of self defense.

Now it is gone. Poof. It doesn't exist.

Should I keep you posted as I notice others?

[Cookie]

yes please.

[arcora]

Since threads aren't deleted can you provide any information as to where the thread I mentioned is?

[PodWORLD]

My post count miserly though it is dropped by twenty the other day so I think some may have.

I bet you the same braniacs that pm'd the witnesses out of here have once again loved something to deletion.

Maybe morality was too real a concept.

Cheers, Chris

[zorgon]

Threads aren't and shouldn't be deleted..

Uh huh... sure

and mine are where? :lmao:

[arcora]

Certainly mods wouldn't delete threads to further their own agenda or eradicate ideas that contradicted their belief systems.

Would they?

[zorgon]

Certainly mods wouldn't delete threads to further their own agenda or eradicate ideas that contradicted their belief systems.

Would they?

Ummm err... no no of course not... never happen... unless... mods are human :shocked:

[droid56]

I started the thread about guns.

I figured a mod thought it was inappropriate, and deleted it.

By the way, I indicated my unwillingness to use them in possible difficult times ahead, but if those times occur, people might very well have to make a decision concerning their usage.

[arcora]

Ummm err... no no of course not... never happen... unless... mods are human :shocked:

Yes - human. But they are spiritually enlightened, right? Aren't they on the front lines of our fight against the Orwellian regime(s)?

[arcora]

I started the thread about guns.

I figured a mod thought it was inappropriate, and deleted it.

By the way, I indicated my unwillingness to use them in possible difficult times ahead, but if those times occur, people might very well have to make a decision concerning their usage.

I thought it turned into something very appropriate. It became a very thought provoking discussion about the morality of self defense. It's too bad it's gone. It probably would have helped some people to look inward and decide how they could best approach coming situations and protect their 'radiant zones'.

Oh well. I'm sure the mods had a noble reason for deleting it. It's probably best to not think of such things...

[zorgon]

Yes - human. But they are spiritually enlightened, right? Aren't they on the front lines of our fight against the Orwellian regime(s)?

Well look at it this way...

If your intent was to disrupt the search for truth... what better way than to sign up as a mod :yikes:

So who is to know? Until they get caught :bleh:

You DID read this, yes?


Deleted threads - intetrim update
Hi, Folks:

This is a very brief interim update. We're continuing to check into this, and it seems to have been either a hack or someone impersonating (or logging in as) a moderator. If so, it would have been at a sophisticated level. We'll restore the threads if we possibly can.

Very best to all, Bill

[zorgon]

Maybe I will switch sides

THEY have all the cool toys like space lasers, secret spaceships, stargates and looking glasses that can see into the future...

THEY have control of all the money and can buy escape retreats in Dubai like Halliburton is doing with all the money they made on the war

Yup that's the ticket... if ya can't beat them, join them

BUSH UBERALLES!!!! :thumb_yello:

See you on the Mars Colony
:tongue2:

[arcora]

Well look at it this way...

If your intent was to disrupt the search for truth... what better way than to sign up as a mod :yikes:

So who is to know? Until they get caught :bleh:

You DID read this, yes?


Deleted threads - intetrim update
Hi, Folks:

This is a very brief interim update. We're continuing to check into this, and it seems to have been either a hack or someone impersonating (or logging in as) a moderator. If so, it would have been at a sophisticated level. We'll restore the threads if we possibly can.

Very best to all, Bill

So could it be inferred that someone wants us defenseless?

[gazbom]

So could it be inferred that someone wants us defenseless?
I had a thread about 1 million kids go missing every year in the US and UK, that's gone missing too!
Does that mean they want us childless!

[odiseo]

What ever is happening it feels like many of things written by the contactees and member where in the right direction and simply (THEY) don't want us to know. My advice to Bill and Kerry is to be careful who they put as a mod in here. I don't blame them to restrict the site access or temporally remove some post if the site was hacked. Its really sad that this people keep doing this , i know that Bill and Kerry has put a lot of efforts to create this place. If (THEY) are reding this let me tell you something , i wont leave the forum , i'll try to support this site as much as i can and no matter what (THEY) do the truth will be known , we will be united more than ever. I thanks personally the administrators and the good mods of this wonderful place to let me join in and hope that the responsible for this could be known and simply be kick out on here. Much love and light to you all, Namaste.

[Cookie]

Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Hey, gazbom, I remember that thread.. it was a good one. I'm trying to find out what happened to it. I'll get back to you!

Peace..Cookie

[gazbom]

Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Hey, gazbom, I remember that thread.. it was a good one. I'm trying to find out what happened to it. I'll get back to you!

Peace..Cookie
Thanks Cookie!

[arcora]

Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Being reviewed by staff...

Sounds very impressive.

Why remove it to review it?

Sounds like someone didn't like it and removed it temporarily so that Bill or Kerry can decide whether or not it is a proper discussion for us.

Thank you for protecting us from ourselves.

[Carol]

What ever is happening it feels like many of things written by the contactees and member where in the right direction and simply (THEY) don't want us to know. My advice to Bill and Kerry is to be careful who they put as a mod in here. I don't blame them to restrict the site access or temporally remove some post if the site was hacked. Its really sad that this people keep doing this , i know that Bill and Kerry has put a lot of efforts to create this place. If (THEY) are reding this let me tell you something , i wont leave the forum , i'll try to support this site as much as i can and no matter what (THEY) do the truth will be known , we will be united more than ever. I thanks personally the administrators and the good mods of this wonderful place to let me join in and hope that the responsible for this could be known and simply be kick out on here. Much love and light to you all, Namaste.


Aloha odiseo,

Actually there are several mods who are contactees and several more contactees we are currently reviewing to add. All of us are committed to the truth being revealed or we wouldn't be here. Thank you for your concern so that we had an opportunity to clear up any misperception regarding this particular issue. Glad that you're here. :thumb_yello:

Mahalo,

Carol

[Carol]

Being reviewed by staff...

Sounds very impressive.

Why remove it to review it?

Sounds like someone didn't like it and removed it temporarily so that Bill or Kerry can decide whether or not it is a proper discussion for us.

Thank you for protecting us from ourselves.

Aloha arcora,

It appears you may have missed previous posts. Threads are being reviewed and sorted into appropriate catagories to make it easier for folks to find their thread topic. A number of folks posted theads that should have been in the Camelot section and vice versa.

This has nothing to do about protecting anybody. It's just a matter of fine-tuning and streamlining a few thousand threads.

Mahalo,

Carol

[Steve_G]

I had a thread about 1 million kids go missing every year in the US and UK, that's gone missing too!
Does that mean they want us childless!

Funny you should say that, I lost the thread entitled "The Great White Brotherhood." I was asking for info about the GWB in any and all forms, and was getting information about ascended masters and Illuminati secret magical orders. It mysteriously vanished from the spirituality section.

I'm pretty sure there's a connection between missing kids and secret Illuminati rituals.

Hmmm... I'm beginning to see a pattern here... Gonna change my name to Sherlock and buy a big pipe. :original:

Cookie, I don't suppose you've come across that thread have you?

Blessings

[odiseo]

Im very happy to help any way i can Carol love and light to you :) Namaste

[arcora]

I know that Bill & Kerry have invited us here to discuss issues with like minded people. It is their 'home' and, as such, if I am to participate I need to follow their rules.

I bought into the line that the forum was recently changed to remain in line with the core focus of the founders. It didn't feel right to me, but I bought it.

Now there are basically two forums. One (Camelot) is where we can go and read about the things we are not allowed to discuss. The second (Avalon) is where we can discuss the things that are allowed.

Now evidently, as discussions arise, someone (The Decider) will determine whether or not a particular aspect of What Is Allowed may be spoken of.

No offense guys but this reeeeeeeeks of mind control.

This forum is beginning to remind me of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

and this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlJqR4GmKw

That being said - I am not accusing anyone here of trying to form a cult. However, restricting freedom of thought is mind control and sets a dangerous precedent that leads down a slippery slope.

So.

Are we adult free thinkers who have been invited here to discuss topics and issues that are of mutual concern? Or are we being indoctrinated into someone else's belief system?

Do the founders and mods here have faith that if a member starts a thread about furry spotted puppies that the rest of the members will not be interested and the thread will die? Or is the mindset of 'management' more controlling in nature?

I ask seriously and would like serious answers.

[Anchor]

Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Hey, gazbom, I remember that thread.. it was a good one. I'm trying to find out what happened to it. I'll get back to you!

Peace..Cookie

Thanks Cookie

Whatever is decided it needs to be done transparently. I know from experience that Moderating behind closed doors is a recipie for disaster. I know things are moving very quickly at the moment and that we should be patient.

The recent posting from Carol containing Bills thoughts on the structure of Avalon is an example (the post not necessarily its content!) of exactly the kind of transparency required. (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=29992#post29992)

Yesterday, I asked the question on the spirituality sub-forum in the thread "So Long" concerning Henry Deacon apparently leaving the forum "Are we being hacked" the answer I got was "No", followed by two moderator comments, one of which was that the service provider had applied a security script without telling anyone and this had caused some errors.

So if we are not being hacked, then threads are being removed from view officialy.

Quite apart from any of our self deluded ego reasons as to why we think our contributions are important - to be honest my main concern is that if feels quite out of character with the rest of what is going on on this forum - whch by the way is absolutely amazing.

A..

[SynchrOMicity]

MOD-ER-ATOR interesting concept, profanity yes,out and out rudeness yes,very fine line, whos da judge? I had one nuked of only two threads, that i felt to share. i had private contacts that shared the same experience ,with profound energy shared. But i understand alot has to be organized in a very short amount of time, this forum is still a baby as far as iam concerned. i will be around until iam not.

just a note on guns, in Indy gun sales went up 100% this week, according to their local news! Interesting.

[Cookie]

. But i understand alot has to be organized in a very short amount of time, this forum is still a baby as far as iam concerned.



SynchrOMicity... thank you for understanding! So much has happened here so quickly. I know that it appears that staff is hiding information, censoring information, but, the is NOT the case.. We are trying to organize this place and it is an enormous job.

Peace..Cookie

[Sherab]

The most recent one to disappear began as a discussion about guns and became a very interesting discussion about the morality of self defense.

Now it is gone. Poof. It doesn't exist.

Should I keep you posted as I notice others?


Yeah, I'm mad too. I was just starting make myself look smart on that thread.

And why would a discussion about the morality of self-defense need to be reviewed? That seems to be an extremely relevant topic considering the whole world is going to explode by Oct. 14th.

[kungfugrip]

I have had several disappearing threads as well

[Sherab]

Maybe we should take our threads to the local news, and make flyers of them and post them everywhere...you know, hide them out in the open.

[Carol]

Yeah, I'm mad too. I was just starting make myself look smart on that thread.

And why would a discussion about the morality of self-defense need to be reviewed? That seems to be an extremely relevant topic considering the whole world is going to explode by Oct. 14th.

Aloha Sherab,

I think they planned to move that thead to the Camelot Forum. However, we already know you're smart. :thumb_yello:
Mahalo,

Carol

[Sherab]

So you've already dug the grave? What, no wake?

[sirian77]

I keep noticing threads disappearing.

Are they being deleted?
they must be on the other timeline! :lmao:

[yettyn]

Last week I posted in another thread, and later also sent a PM to Bill, about the possibility that this forum might be running an insecure version of vBulletin and that a patch release has been released (as early as 4 sep.). However, so far I have seen no reaction, no response from Bill to my PM or that the version label in forum footer has changed. Unfortunately, in lack of valid response I fear this forum has been taken over some how. Please prove me wrong!

There is the vBulletin announcement, as as you see the flaw allows accounts to be compromised and hence with enough privileges could do things like deleting threads or implementing a new set of 'policies' to 'review' aka censure posts.

vBulletin 3.7.3 PL1 and 3.6.11 PL1 Released
vBulletin 3.7.3 PL1 / vBulletin 3.6.11 PL1

A report was published recently pointing to potential flaws within the random number generator in PHP applications who use a weak seed and then go on to disclose any of the random numbers generated. This flaw could allow random numbers within vBulletin to be predicted and under the correct circumstances allow an attacker to obtain access to a user's account. To resolve this issue, it is necessary to release patch level versions of vBulletin 3.7.3 and 3.6.11.

This original flaw was discovered by Stefan Esser and its application within vBulletin by Tom Harwood.

The upgrade process is the same as previous patch level releases - simply download the patch from the Members Area, extract the files and upload to your webserver, overwriting the existing files. There is no upgrade script required.

As with all security-based releases, we recommend that all customers upgrade as soon as possible in order to prevent any potential damage resulting from the flaw being exploited.

[Stephen]

If the Staff here is going to delete or move threads to a locked area I would STRONGLY suggest then to PM the people that have been affected.

If someone has the time to Delete/Move threads then they have the time to PM people and let them know what is going on.

[Sherab]

:lmao:

they must be on the other timeline! :lmao:

[NewParadigmGuy]

If the Staff here is going to delete or move threads to a locked area I would STRONGLY suggest then to PM the people that have been affected.

If someone has the time to Delete/Move threads then they have the time to PM people and let them know what is going on.

It appears that your suggestions have fallen upon deaf ears...

[SplatPantZ]

Mod Simons Avalon thread missing, over 1 hundred posts and this morning vannished!

Hi splat..

From my understanding, Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill. As soon as I have more info then members will be informed ok.

peace

Kate

[Kate]

[QUOTE=SplatPantZ;65667]Mod Simons Avalon thread missing, over 1 hundred posts and this morning vannished!

Hi splat..

From my understanding, Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill. As soon as I have more info then members will be informed ok.

peace

Kate

[SplatPantZ]

From my understanding, Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill.

Kate

Many thanks for your reply Kate.

I thought i was going mad!

[Kate]

Last week I posted in another thread, and later also sent a PM to Bill, about the possibility that this forum might be running an insecure version of vBulletin and that a patch release has been released (as early as 4 sep.). However, so far I have seen no reaction, no response from Bill to my PM or that the version label in forum footer has changed. Unfortunately, in lack of valid response I fear this forum has been taken over some how. Please prove me wrong!

There is the vBulletin announcement, as as you see the flaw allows accounts to be compromised and hence with enough privileges could do things like deleting threads or implementing a new set of 'policies' to 'review' aka censure posts.


Hi Yettyn,

Just to reassure you....this forum has not been 'taken over' however, as many members ARE now aware, the site has/iss experiencing technical probs in addition to 'attacks' in various guises.... We are working to the best of our ability to work through issues as they appear, however, its not always possible even with the best intent!! :original:

Bill is finally managing to 'catch up' on PMs and is now aware of the problems.

all the best.
Kate

[Deoxyan]

I know that Bill & Kerry have invited us here to discuss issues with like minded people. It is their 'home' and, as such, if I am to participate I need to follow their rules.

I bought into the line that the forum was recently changed to remain in line with the core focus of the founders. It didn't feel right to me, but I bought it.

Now there are basically two forums. One (Camelot) is where we can go and read about the things we are not allowed to discuss. The second (Avalon) is where we can discuss the things that are allowed.

Now evidently, as discussions arise, someone (The Decider) will determine whether or not a particular aspect of What Is Allowed may be spoken of.

No offense guys but this reeeeeeeeks of mind control.

This forum is beginning to remind me of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

and this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlJqR4GmKw

That being said - I am not accusing anyone here of trying to form a cult. However, restricting freedom of thought is mind control and sets a dangerous precedent that leads down a slippery slope.

So.

Are we adult free thinkers who have been invited here to discuss topics and issues that are of mutual concern? Or are we being indoctrinated into someone else's belief system?

Do the founders and mods here have faith that if a member starts a thread about furry spotted puppies that the rest of the members will not be interested and the thread will die? Or is the mindset of 'management' more controlling in nature?

I ask seriously and would like serious answers.

i always thought the same about this forum. The videos show exactly what is happening here.

Nevertheless i am just an observer.

[Harper]

Simon the moderator's good bye and good luck thread disappeared in front of my face as did my reply in my profile, in the part where you can see all the discussions you have been involved in.

I thought it was me being thick...........but methinks now that we are being "handled" a little no? people saying things like we are not ready etc....

If in this place we are not ready to review information, however mad it may seem then where I ask you. Facebook ? hehehe I think not unless of course it come with a picture of a cat wearing glasses or something equally hilarious ........

tongue firmly in cheek, but of course

[SplatPantZ]

Simon the moderator's good bye and good luck thread disappeared in front of my face

This is thread i refer to in my post, hopefully somehow we can get it back?

[StarSeed1947]

This is thread i refer to in my post, hopefully somehow we can get it back?

I knew this was going to happen, so I saved my last post to his thread late last night.
The problem we are experiencing is that too many people have become awakened. Those of us who are not afraid of death will continue to bring the truth out despite the constant attacks we have been subjected to.

Have faith. Everything will soon become clear to those who possess a loving heart and a sense of purpose.


Originally Posted by Simon
All is not what it seems at Avalon.

Do not believe everything you are told.

Sincere best wishes to ALL of humanity for the days ahead.

===============================

Simon, could this have anything to do with my thread that you re-opened today?

And who closed my thread again?
I am confused.
You replied to my post on the last page and now your post is gone.
I wish I would have saved it.

Please be safe. Hopefully Bill or Kerry will open my thread and upload my video after they view it.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
My thread was closed until the video was ready and I totally understand.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=5979

[Swanny]

My friend told me to have a look at the things are not what they seem thread but it's gone :(
Why is stuff being deleted like this????

[Harper]

Hello Splatz,

Yes I think we all just posted at the same time. Maybe Simon was upset and posted something dramatic when it was an internal problem amongst the team. Or maybe not, however the censure has proven to give credence to his claims instead of calming anyone. Don't see why we can't discuss it though. we put our faith in the forum's open-mindedness so why is this faith not returned in kind. All relationships are a 2 way street, even this platform.

I hope we will find out that someone ate his piece of birthday cake from the fridge and not something awful

g

[SplatPantZ]

I knew this was going to happen, so I saved my last post to his thread late last night.

My thread was closed until the video was ready and I totally understand.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=5979

Hey Starseed did you get a pm from me?

How did you know this would happen?

[SplatPantZ]

Hi Harper,
I was having a quick look through the long posts as i allways do to get an idea of whats going on then back track to the beginning.
It was so diverse and even another mod was apologising for something that they had done/said.
There was also posts of major expected events this weekend?

[StarSeed1947]

Hey Starseed did you get a pm from me?

How did you know this would happen?

Yes, I sent you a pm.

I have always been able to know things and some things have saved my life at the last second.

There are many of us on the planet who understand many things. Many are becoming awakened and that is not a good thing for 'them.'

But, it is too late. There are more of us than there is of them. We can now recognize who is really on our side.
Have no fear. Soon everything will be revealed. Death is not the end.

[Harper]

Starseed,

Someday I will learn how to post a new thread :-) But would you agree that at some point in our evolution (the real one I mean, none of this decended from fish business) that we invented death because as the hologram began to solidify we were less and less able to just change our course so we invented death as we knew it was all just a ferriswheel of life and death and it was the easiest way of starting afresh.

[Shadowstalker]

Starseed,

Someday I will learn how to post a new thread :-) But would you agree that at some point in our evolution (the real one I mean, none of this decended from fish business) that we invented death because as the hologram began to solidify we were less and less able to just change our course so we invented death as we knew it was all just a ferriswheel of life and death and it was the easiest way of starting afresh.
That is a very interesting theory i like it and will ponder on it.:smoke:

[golden lady]

I was in the middle of this thread this morning and was watching the link to Dolores Cannon- Moving into a new Earth,very interesting and well worth a watch by the way (thanks very much for the link, sorry can't remember who gave it now:original:)and when I tried to continue with the thread I was told I wasn't allowed access.
Which, threw me and made me feel very uneasy/ uncomfortable. However, if I had known at the time the thread had been removed for "review" I would have felt a little easier. Not that I think removing threads is a good idea, I don't.
Clarity, transparency and being open with one another, warts and all should be what it's all about here at Avalon/Camalot. The last thing we need is censorship.
This thread had me intriged not because I want to be part of gossip that may, maynot go on behind the scenes between the mods but because intresting and possibly vital info was being shared.
I would therefore, ask most politely, to please reinstate this thread.

I agree group hug needed.:wub2:
Love, forgivness, peace and courage to all.

[StarSeed1947]

Starseed,

Someday I will learn how to post a new thread :-) But would you agree that at some point in our evolution (the real one I mean, none of this decended from fish business) that we invented death because as the hologram began to solidify we were less and less able to just change our course so we invented death as we knew it was all just a ferriswheel of life and death and it was the easiest way of starting afresh.

We have all been deceived and we were used and abused since birth. Death is not the end. Many of us have become awakened to the truth.
Some of us will fight to the bitter end for the truth to come out.
Let's hope Bill and Kerry will assist us down that road.

If I am banned, you will know it was because of my video. Many people now have my dvd and hopefully one of them will upload it in case project camelot won't.

I ask those on this forum who have it to name it StarSeed1947 so everyone will be able to find it in case I am no longer around.

[Kulapops]

I too was following the 'thread' yesterday, but it hadn't got far. I was trying to take a look today, not only because I was intrigued that a moderator should post such a cryptic message, but because I was trying to figure out if Simon was indeed leaving the forum. He's been around for a little while and it is disturbing if some of the early regulars are leaving without trace or explanation.

I am not into fear, but it does seem that this kind of event will generate and spread it amongst avaloners, intentionally or otherwise.

[Harper]

Hi Splatz,

I go the ole fashioned route as I wouldn't know where I was without linear time :-) Yes a mod apoligised, but I think for just loosing her patience not for something untoward.

Yes there was you are correct, this weekend, but you know at this stage hasn't there been something forecast for everyday of Oct. The fact that so many people are expecting something in October makes me think that it won't happen. The unexpected is what the governments are best at. I guess what intrigues me about people is the amount of things that have already happened in oct that just went by without one mention.
Earthquake in pakistan with strange equally powerful aftershocks expected for 5 days
US attack a syrian camp without authorization
Syria closed the US embassy, School and cultural centre
Masses of people faced riot police to show distain for this attack
The financial system has collapsed, pretty much
A country went bankrupt -Iceland
Hundreds now have been killed in month-long bombings in India
Bomb today in Spain (eta did not give warning)
Ancient piece of pottery found which could up-set the 'traditional' view of king david.
Bombs kill outside afghan ministry
Congo re-becomes voilent hell
And my favourite.............
Tension rises in french cheese market (no kidding)
So not to be trite, be a fair amount of s**t has already happened !

dunno, dunno, we are all immune

[David]

ok...I must have missed something but I'm perplexed as to what is going in this thread.

[Harper]

David, a thread we were all reading this morning or yesterday depending on where you are in the world disappeared, it came from a moderator, Simon and seemed to say he was leaving because "all is not what it seems on Avalon"

We are all wondering why it was pulled, and why Simon was quietened, as were we. Thus far it seems it is under review by the forum, fair enough. Why can't we talk about is what most of us are wondering and what exactly prompted this dramatic little thread. You are perhaps confused by me who has introduced another line of questioning as I can't begin a new thread-- sorry. Just skip the haper ones.
g

[SplatPantZ]

ok...I must have missed something but I'm perplexed as to what is going in this thread.

Join the club!

Maybe the thread will be resurected?

Yes Harper a lot is happening this month who knows whats next, its just that a thread like that to dissapear makes people wonder what is realy going on.

It would have been better just to close it and leave for viewing.

[David]

Thank you Harper and Splat. That does explain it. :)

[Harper]

Dear Splatz

RIGHT ! I didn't even know that was an option, which makes it all the more irritating.

Peace out folks, going out in the Paris rain..... and if I get followed again..............

I'll let you know
g

[Artycarl]

I hope the thread in question is reopened as it could be seen as a very negative step to take considering the threads potentially damaging content.

[StarSeed1947]

I am leaving to go meet another member from your forum. Hopefully, they are the one that I am seeking.

If I am banned or missing, please pressure those who have my video to release it.
Make Bill and Kerry upload it and allow it to be discussed in case I can't post any longer.
To those of you that I gave the contact info of Dr. Cameron, please contact her so that she can answer any questions on what she knows about me and my life.
my email is:
starseed1947@aol.com

[David]

Uhm...cant you post it on YouTube?

[Magii]

Uhm...cant you post it on YouTube?


I coulda swear .. someone got the video and said they were going to post in the next day ..

well that never happened ..

LOL WOW ... who needs TV Drama .. we have forum drama ..

Secret Videos ...

Issues with a MOD ..

Threads DIssappearing .. whats next :mad3:

[StarSeed1947]

Uhm...cant you post it on YouTube?

I want it to be on 1 video and not in parts. Many now have my video and somebody will do it for me.
I am sorry that I don't know how to do it.

[StarSeed1947]

I coulda swear .. someone got the video and said they were going to post in the next day ..

well that never happened ..

LOL WOW ... who needs TV Drama .. we have forum drama ..

Secret Videos ...

Issues with a MOD ..

Threads DIssappearing .. whats next :mad3:

Yes, that is true. Both Vanlom and whitecrow have my video and I have begged them to put it up.

They won't respond to me. Please ask them why.

[Magii]

I want it to be on 1 video and not in parts. Many now have my video and somebody will do it for me.
I am sorry that I don't know how to do it.

Hi ... welll

is this U ?

http://www.youtube.com/user/StarSeed1947

Cuz .. it has alot of videos on there already!!

and ur names match ..

Oh wait..

HOW about this ??


http://www.wheresoulsreside.com/

Is that you also ??
"Linda"

[arcora]

HOW about this ??


http://www.wheresoulsreside.com/

Is that you also ??
"Linda"

Mystery solved. Drama over.

Linda, I can assure you that nobody is going to 'off' you because of your video or website.

Calm down.

[David]

well, glad that mystery was solved.


http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:CKEYNQtbteuvJM:http://weblogs.redeyechicago.com/iphoneblog/images/2008/08/12/mystery_machine3.jpg

[StarSeed1947]

Hi ... welll

is this U ?

http://www.youtube.com/user/StarSeed1947

Cuz .. it has alot of videos on there already!!

and ur names match ..

would that be a conicedence/?!

Yes, that is me.

Look at this, I have been in communication with these objects:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=wgFOzqPw1_M&feature=related

at #3 http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=9vbqyyWTyJk

#9 that looks like a scroll with a circular drawing on it -- this is very important.
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=-xWTAMb1Dl0&feature=channel

also see # 7 and my new mexico video

I have others that have not been seen yet.

All these things are discussed on my mystery video and how I was probably able to record many things.
Read what I say at www.wheresoulsreside.com

There is much more and I shall reveal more soon. Time is running out.
Hopefully I will be back later to answer more questions.

[StarSeed1947]

Mystery solved. Drama over.

Linda, I can assure you that nobody is going to 'off' you because of your video or website.

Calm down.

I am not worried, I have never been afraid of anything.

Can you tell me why the members of this forum won't put up my video or even respond to me or why Bill and Kerry haven't contacted me about it?

I only want people to question everything.

[David]

StarSeed, I don't know about any dealings you have with other people and for Bill and Kerry; Can you explain how your video fits into Camelot? I'm not harrasing you, I just want understand it's importance.

[StarSeed1947]

StarSeed, I don't know about any dealings you have with other people and for Bill and Kerry; Can you explain how your video fits into Camelot? I'm not harrasing you, I just want understand it's importance.

Aren't we all searching for the truth about who we are and where we come from? And more importantly, what the heck are we really dealing with.

Some of us were able to connect the dots because we were awakened and our memories came back. We were able to put the pieces of the puzzle together based on our own life experiences.

I tell my story on this video. I have credible witnesses who will vouch for my claims.
I have seen hundreds of UFO's and at least 10 times with witnesses.
One time it was a huge mothership with a witness on June 21st, 2000.

I share everything on this video.

Some of us understand the ugly truth that was hidden from mankind.
This video fits in perfectly on Project Camelot.

Vanlom and whitecrow, will you please upload my video. Vanlom, you promised me, why won't you respond to me?
Who are you and who is stopping you from doing it?

[StarSeed1947]

BTW, my dear mother who died on the day of the dead on Nov. 2nd, 2005 at 4:44am gave me all the answers about many things after her soul left her body.

She was 1/2 Mixtec Indian.

I will be back later, gotta run.

[Lotus]

So StarSeed instead of creating so much mystery and drama here, why didn't you just post the link to your web site?

[Myra]

...I'm pretty sure there's a connection between missing kids and secret Illuminati rituals....

You bet there is! :mad3:

[Elephant Man]

:original: bit of a soap opera this one :original: ends with a cliff hanger - tune in next week folks :naughty:

Ok. this started with a cryptic message about a mysterious video, the owner couldnt upload it due to not understanding computers. there is though bundles of vids and a web site, that couldve been refered to. what is going on please. what are we looking at? looks like dust motes at night, but move differently, ok thats wierd, but where was they filmed? are we looking at the sky? is it film of a darkened basement? either I've missed something or this is a forum version of dallas - who shot JR? :wink2: how long is this gonna carry on? :wall:
Im out of this thread, until something pans out. I dont like being manipulated, yet I've let myself be, by following cryptic enticement. silly me :wall:

:lol3::lmao::lol3:

peace

[Tuza]

As I said on the missing thread yesterday I would still like to see what Waterman posted and was pulled - information that we needed to know - where is it.

And why aren't those two forum members getting back to StarSeed1947. What's going on.

[Dantheman62]

h

[SplatPantZ]

As I said on the missing thread yesterday I would still like to see what Waterman posted and was pulled - information that we needed to know - where is it.


One of the posts that caught my eye!

[Tuza]

Am I to believe that the PTB are hacking into the forum and pulling posts about information we not allowed to know - is that it.

[dataeast]

As I said on the missing thread yesterday I would still like to see what Waterman posted and was pulled - information that we needed to know - where is it.

...

If it has to do with privacy of a member I'd understand why the mods have pulled it, it'd be a betrayal of trust to single someone out who requested to be anonymous then flaunt that knowledge.

[SplatPantZ]

Tuza

Hi splat..

From my understanding, Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill. As soon as I have more info then members will be informed ok.

peace

Kate

[UncaRay]

Coupla weeks ago someone posted some info about Nesera in the "Tennessee" Forum and it disappeared. I reposted the info on post #22 and it's still there.

What's the pattern here?

[zorgon]

I hope the thread in question is reopened as it could be seen as a very negative step to take considering the threads potentially damaging content.

Quite right.. :thumb_yello: That was a very bad move to delete it... Now it just proves that "All is not as it seems at Avalon"

Good thing that I save threads that I fell 'might' be an issue...

[WineHippie]

I keep noticing threads disappearing.

Are they being deleted?

well, arcora, everyone...
i've read this entire thread.
It leaves me flat.
It was very curious to see Simon post a cryptic
message four times and disappear.
Stranger still to find all signs deleted today.
I did not give it energy by joining in the fray.
Don't get me wrong, I am itching to know.
But there is so much drama.
And some of the responses so childish and icky.
I feel I have wasted my time.

And it's the first time I have felt that at Camelot/Avalon.

Thanks for letting me vent.

:drinks_wine:

[AlbaTiVo]

Interesting sig that Henry Deacon has now...

http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12204

Steven

[Tuza]

Things seem to be getting more interesting by the minute, another conspiracy I will be keeping a close eye on.:cup::smoke:

[Kulapops]

One of the posts that caught my eye!

Hi Splat... don't understand this, can you elaborate please? It sounds as if you're referring to a post that caught your eye which you are reproducing here (but it isn't there!) or your talking about Tuza's post which is referring to a post not being there.

If you have posted something of which the text is subsequently removed, that just makes everything even more interesting ! lol

Anyone here remember "Confused ? You will be...after this week's episode of soap"? :original:

I agree with Zorgon. Any thread that begins with 'all is not what it seems' (especially by a moderator, who should kind of know something about what goes on at avalon) will remain a building mystery until some information is forthcoming about the original thread. If only to say... 'it was about a personal matter which was removed for reasons of privacy'...etc

peace n interested

K

[Tuza]

In Simon's disappeared thread, Waterman commented on some information that all members needed to see that he posted and it disappeared. I got the feeling that it was important that all members viewed it, but as soon as he posted it, it disappeared. Why, I would like to know, where is he anyway, Waterman are you out there.

Waterman also quoted in that post for 'someone' to keep their head down but I forgot who he mentioned now.:wall:

[Bleep!]

:zip:

[raulduke]

I think we're all a little to quick to jump on something that looks fishy (and to me, this looks pretty fishy), as of course we are all a bunch of conspiracy nuts here. :original:

It's a good thing to be vigilant but, we're displaying the epitome of paranoia here (myself include, as I posted a couple of responses in Simon's mystery thread). I don't think it's necessarily completelty our faults either.

As I said in Simon's now locked thread, I feel like this is all probably the result of something mundane, like some personal beef.

However, imho, I feel that the way it has been dealt w/ is only causing further confusion which leads to paranoia which lead to assumptions which, you know what.

As long as this remains a mystery, the only result will be more confusion/paranoia.

[zorgon]

Too much "moderation". (IMO)

Getting dizzy and seasick.

New strategy requested.


New strategy?

How about this for a new strategy?

Tell everyone here who you really are... :tongue2:

[sunny D]

blahblahblah....I am going to read something that makes me smarter...Namaste:thumbdown:

[Argante]

The "Simon" thread was removed because it had served it's purpose, and members were totally misunderstanding it's meaning as some cryptic message of doom.

It was Simon's way of saying goodbye to the members. Before he resigned he hard deleted all his posts. By accident one whole thread he had authored was also deleted. I know he feels very bad about that thread being deleted. I also asked him if he wanted his thread reposted. He felt it had served it purpose also.

Now we have this thread with more claims of us trying to hide something. This was, and is, a personal issue involving a Moderator who I consider a dear friend. Simon is much loved, and his leaving is painful for us.

We are not hiding or keeping things from our members, we are just dealing with a personal internal matter as best we can.

Sorry if this has upset some of you. And to those members who are using this in an attempt to capitalize on their own agenda of disrupting Avalon... shame on you.

Mary Lou

[TranceAm]

[QUOTE=SplatPantZ;65667]Mod Simons Avalon thread missing, over 1 hundred posts and this morning vannished!

Hi splat..

From my understanding, Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill. As soon as I have more info then members will be informed ok.

peace

Kate

Eh, that can't happen while the thread is ONLINE and can be "reviewed" by other members? That is at least to say "odd". :shocked:

The bets for a 1984 Deja-Vu feeling are going up....

[TranceAm]

The "Simon" thread was removed because it had served it's purpose, and members were totally misunderstanding it's meaning as some cryptic message of doom.

So how were we to understand "Not all is as it seems at Avalon?"
as a:



It was Simon's way of saying goodbye to the members.

Oh, but he seemed pretty p*ss@d to :


Before he resigned he hard deleted all his posts.

And I know that feeling, since I have done it myself at the Religious Forum, when they started editing my posts and deleting them.


Now we have this thread with more claims of us trying to hide something. This was, and is, a personal issue involving a Moderator who I consider a dear friend. Simon is much loved, and his leaving is painful for us.

So why did he leave, and why with this cryptic goodbye message?


We are not hiding or keeping things from our members, we are just dealing with a personal internal matter as best we can.

THAT sounds like a company having to lawyer their way out of a situation a whisle blower got them into, and forgetting that the whistle blower is a "reaction" to some other company "action"..


Sorry if this has upset some of you. And to those members who are using this in an attempt to capitalize on their own agenda of disrupting Avalon... shame on you.

Mary Lou

THAT duck won't fly, putting guilt in inquiring minds is so yestermillenium/Bush Admin..
More info is needed/requested.

[Stephen]

In case ANYone has noticed I have not posted either way on Simon's thread. Simon is well loved here and a good friend.
He always will be.

I did not post because I did not see the need too.
However, I will say this and say it only ONCE.
I will not argue the point.

What Mary Lou is saying is dead on. She never has or never will deceive anyone here.
For people that know me or have taken the time to try to get to know how I 'work' then they have learned that I do not mislead or deceive anyone here either.
There is NO Profit in that. I believe in three things mostly.
That is: Edify...Edify...Edify!

So with all that then I hope this lays this to rest.
Oh I am sure there will be 'someone' that will cry foul.
I do not care. I, Mary Lou, and other Staff here KNOW what is going on here and these 'someones' do not.
No matter what their 'name' is or what they 'think' they know....

[warngen]

New strategy?

How about this for a new strategy?

Tell everyone here who you really are... :tongue2:

I agree.

[raulduke]

Thanks for your address Mary Lou, and I am indeed sorry to hear that the mod family has lost a member, but I must say that I agree w/ TranceAm on some level, although TA, your post is pretty antagonizing.

Personally I have just about lost interest, but I think this issue has the possibility to be very harmful to the entire PA community.

I'm now almost certain that this is the result of something mundane and likely a private matter concerning the mod family.

However Simon was the one who made this public and is at least somewhat responsible for all the fervor that has resulted.

I know that this sounds like a childish request, but I think that in order for this public controversy to be put to rest, I think a mod must explain why Simon quit exactly.

I'm sorry for contributing to the controversy but this is how I feel.

[TranceAm]

TA, your post is pretty antagonizing.


Sorry if I have that effect... But what you see is what you get with me. And what you get is the unfiltered output of my mind as a reaction to what I read.
I do not wrap words in candycotton to make them more to the pallet of the general public..

[raulduke]

No cotton candy necessary TA (not palletable anyway imo), just some discretion.

Antagonization is rarely as productive as simple honest questions.
Unless you're looking for a fight.

[TranceAm]

No cotton candy necessary TA (not palletable anyway imo), just some discretion.

Antagonization is rarely as productive as simple honest questions.
Unless you're looking for a fight.

Honest questions after observation... I would call that a fight for the truth for sure.
And if such questions and observations are considered 'antagonizing', who's side can't stand antagonising? Good or Bad?

And it seems the truth in this case is out there based on the observation that some claim to know it. And in this forum we "share" truth, correct?

Just observations, Conclusions based on interpretations of said observations, and then more questions to define the truth even closer.
And then we can drop this case, and just go on to more important things.

[Artycarl]

I read the WHOLE thread in question and followed the links it contained and I can see why some people might not want its contents viewed by all the members but deleting it in my view was the wrong thing to do in an open forum especially as the reason given ie. 'an internal mod issue' does not quite cover all the issues raised by it.

[Anchor]

Hi all.

It would be nice if many of the people posting here could not be so disrespectful and distrusting of my moderator colleagues - some of whom have been with Simon here from the start and are not happy right now. It is easier for me to remain unaffected by this since there is less history for me. In the short time I did know Simon, he earned my trust and respect. Bit of a shame I didn't get the chance to say it in our moderator place.

[
So why did he leave, and why with this cryptic goodbye message? Simon needs to answer that if he wants - personally I don't know definitively and so I won't. The end.

To address the cryptic issue from my perspective. Sometimes when a decision is made, it is carried out in haste, and this is what I think happened here. His leaving message here was only cryptic if that is how you chose to interpret it. The decision to resign is always a hard one - brevity of speech is common - sometimes accompanied by drama of the moment, ie: - sticky post, somewhat cryptic short message.
]

Moving swiftly on to the other issue that we see catalyzed by this situation. Conspiracies.

From time to time, as has happened and will happen, some of us might mistakes and bad judgments. The mods try their hardest. It is a stressful job for those who are drawn to spend many selfless hours doing it. Please forgive them when that happens. It makes it easier for the Mods to forgive themselves and move on.

Each action we take as moderators is being scrutinized by many people here for signs of impurity of motive.

Almost all sections of Avalon are tinderboxes for any spark of conspiracy! Especially since it seems there are provocateurs/miscreants who frequent this board deliberately to fan the flames, or perhaps less wise posters who don't research and are quick to speculate in a flame fanning way. Most of the time the worst that happens is the thread gets moved. Not deleted.

You have all seen this pattern. It is a karmic pattern and must repeat until the lesson is learned. Sad for all of us.

For those who do not trust everything - including this post! Excellent work. You are heroes. Keep looking for the truth. I sincerely respect the effort and the diligence. Test everything in your heart - there is NO OTHER WAY. I believe that was the core message in Simon's post anyway.

In doing this though, and I will repeat because it is important: please don't be overly disrespectful to people who are working very hard to keep this place orderly and as closely in line with the original Avalon Vision that was initiated/manifested by Bill and Kerry.

Finally - especially for those of you who are awakening to the knowledge of how to do it - please strive keep up the positivity and vibrational level. Positivity is continually ever so much needed in this world. This is my truth that I offer you, if you want it: the love and the light of the one infinite creator, however you choose to personify it, is what is needed for all us in great abundance right now. Sorry if that statement does not sit well with some of you - reject it at your option, that is your right. I offer it to you and this forum with every amount of love energy I can muster for those that resonate with it.

Bless you all.

A..

[warngen]

I just have one simple question.
What persuaded Simon to abruptly and suddenly quit?
With all of the brain power within the moderation team, along with some people that were close and knew Simon, there has to be someone that knows the answer.......

[StarSeed1947]

My video is finally up under the Contactee's thread. It is an hour long.
It's just my own personal story of what I believe to be true.
Love, Linda

[Steve_A]

Hi Zorgon,

I am Stephen John Richard Allen, or am I?

I live in a town near to Recife in Brazil, or do I?

I am a music producer and consultant in my real life, or am I?

I go to my small farm every weekend to chill out, or do I?

What I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter if we say who we really are, where we are, what we do etc. because it is up to the reader to beleive or not what is being keystroked.

Some people, like me are not afraid, or even bothered to be quite honest, if people know who they are. Others, on the other hand could be in a situation that they can't say who they are, or just prefer not to say (after all, what will the neighbours say?). :)

I think we just need to accept that people are who they say they are and leave it at that. Those that choose to 'reveal' their true ID can, those that prefer not to, don't have to. The important thing is that the information and ideas being swapped are interesting and important to us all.

As for others who are fearing a some sort of conspiracy here in the forum, you can all calm down. No conspiracy here.

But as I stated in a previous post, all of us are tracked were we go on the internet anyway, it has almost always been like that. Check out your 'cookie' folder and your 'temporary internet files' folder on your computer. And that's not to mention the whole host of spyware, keyloggers, trojans, the list is endless.....

Best regards,

Steve




New strategy?

How about this for a new strategy?

Tell everyone here who you really are... :tongue2:

[TranceAm]

I have a quote, I live by:

Life is a never ending quest finding out what is true and what not.
Every human has to answer to every claim: "Prove it"
to be able to verify the proof in order to validate the claim.
Unless that process is followed, every claim is nothing more then an attempt to gain
followers.

I know a quote I trust: "Question Authority - Descartes".

I know Jack Nickelson’s infamous line “You want the truth, you cannot handle the truth”

Edit WIth all respect due to the hard work of the Moderators.:

Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill.
The "Simon" thread was removed because it had served it's purpose
I, Mary Lou, and other Staff here KNOW what is going on here and these 'someones' do not.
Most of the time the worst that happens is the thread gets moved. Not deleted.

http://www.northernsun.com/images/thumb/1009.jpg

[warngen]

Bleep maybe on a little....
High Definition

[Anchor]

TranceAm: I suppose, that you see these statements as inconsistent? They are not.

A..

[TranceAm]

TranceAm: I suppose, that you see these statements as inconsistent? They are not.

A..

Nono Anchor (And other mods.), There is a line of continuity where these statements are consistent. (Hierarchy of information streams for example.)
That is not the/my problem.

The problem is that the Why as motivation for all what happened in these last couple of days by all that were participating by actions and postings/reply's isn't revealed.
Now I can see a scenario where Simon is smirking in the basement about what havoc he has created among the people that trusted/love/respected him.
But I can't see in that scenario that the mods have no better answer or strategy then dropping the hot potato as fast as possible by deleting the thread, and giving him or his claim (Not all is as it appears at Avalon.) a shadow of doubt by the actions as seen.
The only other offered alternative is faith like in a religion with guilt for being a probable trouble maker if you keep questioning until you reach the bottom .The Latter with a reasonable appearing punishment of a ban (Trouble Maker!) from logging in, that would appear to the reader as a voluntary stop of posting and visiting of Avalon..

As analog: A Government would claim that I am not Patriotic and thus one of "them", to have me disapear in Nacht und Nebel.

[Anchor]

@TranceAm: Ah good.

Well I hope Bill's post here clears some of that up for you

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=66713&postcount=9

A..

[Anchor]

Does anyone mind if I close this thread ?

[Norval]

Not at all, we all are used to that, , , , :original:

[Anchor]

Not at all, we all are used to that, , , , :original:

Ha ha, but I said close - that doesn't happen too much :)

But we now have two threads on the same subject.

Go here: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6504

A..

[Proletariat]

:throw:

[TranceAm]

Ha ha, but I said close - that doesn't happen too much :)

But we now have two threads on the same subject.

Go here: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6504

A..

AH, You beat me to the punch line..

Bill Ryans Post explains a lot..

You can close this one.. No hard feelings I hope.


Dear Friend:

Many thanks for your message. We're just looking into what happened here with that thread. Simon deleted it when he resigned as a moderator. As the originator of the thread, he's technically able to do that.

Unfortunately, he took away other people's replies as well.

It is crystal clear to me that this is unethical and irresponsible. Simon threw a tantrum. His action was immature. We do NOT know what specifically triggered this.

One does NOT delete other people's words and thoughts and feelings just because one has a personal issue in a different area (as Simon did, because he disagreed with the style of moderation that Kerry and I wanted to see: less thoughtless policing and more intelligent dialog with members, even if that was a hassle and took more time).

But while that was the general issue troubling him, Simon was suddenly greatly angered by someone or something and we do not know what it is. He is not telling.

We sympathize with anyone under stress, and who is upset, but we all have our responsibility and he will not be returning here to this forum as a moderator.

I am very sorry that this has happened. I personally apologize to all members. I do not know if the threads can be restored.

There is no malice here... just dumb human weakness. None of us are immune. The test of all of us is to respond with dignity, intelligence and responsibility even when irritated and angered (as I am now).

I ask all members to do that when they post. It's sometimes easy to be spiteful. It's sometimes hard to be honest. (And honesty begins with what's going on with each of us personally... not the other guy.)

Having said all this, I support Kate's comments above. The Original Poster made a range of general accusations which are unhelpful in the assumptions that were made. A PM would have been more appropriate. Spreading drama is not helpful. It is (by definition) off-topic.

To summarize: none of the moderators are bad people. Some of them have been under a lot of pressure. They have been working incredibly hard. I am extremely grateful for the work they have all done. It's very easy to criticize when one is not doing their work. But all of us, myself included, always need to reach inside us to find our best, especially in these times.

Very best wishes, Bill

[Anchor]

@Proletariat: :lol3:

Ok, this thread is closing now, please go here: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6504

A..