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Edward Alexander
09-27-2008, 07:14 PM
I think you might find this interesting. This is a document containing various posts in the form of answers to questions by a person who claims to be a member of one of the Bloodlines that governs this world. Some of the information presented here is quite something to digest and think about.

The document is attached so click the link to download or open it. PDF format, so Adobe Acrobat Reader is needed.

"The answers this person started giving to those following questions showed a deep, broad understanding of philosophy, history, metaphysics, religion, magic, politics, and more in a way which is very innovative, detailed and some answers are thought provoking to say the least."

Are we dealing with what we really think we're dealing with, or is there something more to it as this document seem to suggest? I'll leave that up for each one of you to personally ponder upon.

Right click the link and save on your computer, or left click to open in your browser: http://www.dark-truth.net/Revelations_of_an_Insider.pdf

-EA

Richard T
09-27-2008, 08:08 PM
I browsed through his answers quickly.

Whovever he is, many things he says, although they don't give fundamental answers, are right. But some extremely important elements I am in total opposition with.

What he is saying, fundamentally, is that Lucifer (will) is the father, Christ (love) is the sun and the holy spirit is the intelligence, and manifests not as a single entity on this globe.

Free will is the trap.

eleni
09-27-2008, 08:11 PM
It resonates. What do you think?

Ashatav
09-27-2008, 08:12 PM
I read it the other day, it's the most luciferian thread I ever read, haha.

Remember that the top people of several organizations, like witchcraft, masonry (memfis misram), Catholic church, Illuminati, etc. are luciferians and are severaly controled by those -interdimensional non-positive-beings, that's because they act like people wha has surved a lobotomy.

The inferior levels of those organizations don't know what happens in the upper levels, just thinks they pays the top people vacations.

The Conspirancy is against God by disminishing Jehoshua, that's the core subjet of all what happens. Remember the myth of the non-divinity of Jehoshua was created by the new age in modern times and the new age are a Jesuit invention (top of the piramyd), remember that Teilhard de Chardin, the father of the new age movement Was a Jesuit..

And Remember that Jehoshua are Alive, not dead in a cross (pagan simbol).

Cheers! :thumb_yello:

Jacqui D
09-27-2008, 08:37 PM
Hi Edward,
i have just read this transcript be it a very thorough question and answer
piece.
All answers where concise, well put and understandable, who ever this (person, being) is seems to have a lot of knowledge if he is not what he seems to be.
He explains well how we have to look within ourselves, this i have always understood to be true, we do not need others to sway our intuitions and lead us to a higher self.
If it is true what he is saying then the powers that are ruling this earth are NOT the overlords so to speak, they are only the puppets once again.
So many layers to peel back!

And yet the one he speaks of says they are the ones manipulating us the enslaved ones, oh dear this gets very confusing.

Yes there is a supreme force, the one creator so to speak, but then why does the supreme creator allow this to happen.
he says it is a way of our learning. This i understand but i do not believe in karma myself.
I have always felt that we have been trapped here by our ever cycle of life and death.

There were many answers yes! but still not enough to make a picture from the whole, there is still a lot to know many gaps in the pavements i think.
but a very interesting piece of writing.
I am trying to be very careful not to write negatively, now i know this can have an effect on ones psyche.
I will take what i feel positive from this posting and see what others say.

Edward Alexander
09-27-2008, 08:40 PM
I find a lot of truth in what is being stated in the document. Personally I think a lot of it makes great sense and is resonating a lot to my own experiences and views. There are some things I can not comment to in any extent such as the truth regarding Jesus, religions et al, as I was not present at those times when they were created, not that I can clearly remember in any case.

But the basic idea I see here is to Listen to Yourself and Inner Being rather than the external outer authorities on any subject. Take it in consideration, but do not accept anything you do not really know as "truth".

The effect of thought forms are also clearly described in the document, though not directly mentioned in that way, but the point of how emotions and thoughts affect your own being is relevant.

With that said, I've not read the whole document yet so I can't make a complete comment on it all but only what I read so far.

-EA

Edward Alexander
09-27-2008, 08:46 PM
Indeed some interesting issues are raised here, such as "who are the REAL elite?". What the person says, makes sense, and sounds logical, but at the same time it could also be a way to distract us from the truth, so it is very hard to know. Though a lot of it makes perfect sense, and I completely agree to large parts of it, and it DOES explain some things that people should be aware of regarding themselves and existence and how things are connected on various planes.

So regardless of this person being a true insider of any such Bloodline or not, he did at least come with some very valid points, but also provided some thoughts and questions that may be something we should take into consideration and try look further into - or into ourselves that may be.

I think what he said himself, do not take anything anyone tells you as fact, but be aware that there may be some truth in what is being told - this goes for this Insider himself as well.

-EA

Jacqui D
09-27-2008, 08:53 PM
yes i understood when it was mentioned that all this scare mongering at the moment is another control, weakening the soul essence.
Every negative thought weakens and sucks the life force from you.
We have to think before we speak, do we really mean this or;

When it was mentioned about us not seeing the true reality of this world was also true i think, what we perceive as (this earthly domain) is nothing like what is really here.
because (here) is nothing!
I believe the powers that be or (puppets)that are mentioned in the transcript have all the ancient knowledge they are keeping us in secret about the knowledge of this false reality we live in.

This false reality is put out entraping us, if we can break away from what we perceive to be this reality we will find the true one which will be inevitably a higher self.

Richard T
09-27-2008, 08:55 PM
Hello Eleni.

I would have to go through the statements one by one and expand them all to show exactly what comes through my mind. This would be quite a task tough.

If I go as a generality I would say that humankind was kept in the dark, but at the same time fed with partial informations that would resonate, as you say, with the aspirations of the soul.

When given explanations about what the soul is, what spirit is, what this or that is, they always are given to induce a form of spirituality that does not explain anything. They arouse aspirations. They resonate with the soul.

Humankind cannot escape its condition because of that lie. When I say lie, I do not mean it in the Judeo-Christian moralistic sense but I rather mean in the dissemination of selected bits of information that create common grounds for belief systems that are adopted by sections of humanity who share an equivalent need for experience, based on their common origin, and on their common evolution of what we call the soul.

A race was lied to in order to bring it here and the lie was organized to keep him here.

Religions are part of it, and spirituality is trapped by it, and even esoterism that was transcribed into a melting pot of beliefs that were strengthened by their correlation ended up captivating the masses with more powerful forms than those of religion.

There is a way out, and the way deals with the destruction of forms that captivate the spirit who reflects upon them in search of its identity. The downside is that those forms cannot be destroyed before they have lost their usefulness.

This is why the future evolution will be personal and not collective. Were it collective, it would be impossible for anyone to escape the experimental condition of the planet with his consciousness whole. He would be obligated to continue his evolution as a soul, and not as an integral being.

Free will would pre-suppose free access to will. Free access to will cannot be gained outside of the process of integration of the energy of the experience kept in the soul as a memory. Therefore, man is obligated to the laws that regulate soul evolution and must abide by the life plan that uses human like traits such as emotions, instincts, beliefs, and so on, to correct the faults, adjust the energy, of the soul while not having conscious access to the plan while incarnated.

When this man says we don't belong here, he is totally right. In the next evolution, the polarity of the planet will be reversed. And those who ruled the globe will be suspended in their power to influence. Then, man will know that free will is not what he believed it was and will start working in resonance to a reality that is the regulator of his energies and that wants to be one with him. Then, he won't be talking about free will but will be the expression of the same energy that lies behind the secret of his own creation, and will therefore be free.

Free will is a concept that represents the false choices the ego allows himself to contemplate when faced to a situation where he must be doing a specific thing but would rather not. He wants to do as he desires, but avoids what he needs. That is not free will, that is ignorance, and this results from the witholding of information, what I call a lie, to which he is subjected.

Man in his experience is faced with oppositions that have for purpose to bring him to act as he must. But he rationalizes his experience an oppositions to such a level that to him there is always something or someone else to blame for his condition.

If he did exactly as he must, he would evolve quite a lot more rapidly.

The ego, in the end, cannot accelerate his evolution, but he can certainly slow it down.

Richard T
09-27-2008, 08:59 PM
I think what he said himself, do not take anything anyone tells you as fact, but be aware that there may be some truth in what is being told - this goes for this Insider himself as well.


It is absolutely fundamental at one point in a person's experience to realize the he must not believe anything.

Jeff Delano
09-27-2008, 09:00 PM
This was a great read. Though the person giving the answers may have seemed cold and harsh there was much truth to it.

ladyluck
09-27-2008, 09:11 PM
I quickly read through this document and the film, "The Nines" immediately popped up in my mind.

A lot of what this person says is a little strange to me. His philosophy does sound similar to Billy Meier.

I won't take it for gospel truth (just like I don't just accept Mr Meier's and anyone else's material without question), but I do prefer to research into this.... search for truth, physically, spiritually, mentally and emotionally and follow my Spirit (the best teacher in my opinion... I just don't listen very often :naughty:)

Would love to hear everyones' opinion regarding this document.

Blessings to all!

Maxine

eleni
09-27-2008, 09:18 PM
I don't think he was harsh at all.

Edward Alexander
09-27-2008, 09:50 PM
If he indeed was a true bloodline insider, he was certainly much "softer" than I would have expected those people to be, to put it that way.

Who knows how far the manipulation really goes, the problem with the things the person claims in the document is that they could very well be true, and that means a lot of people may indeed looking at the wrong "enemy" and a lot of the people who try to spread the "truth" may have been infiltrated and had a certain opinion and view put upon them without themselves even being aware of that.

Perhaps we should focus more thoughts and energy on ourselves and positive thinking, rather than spend energy on negative thinking and an enemy that perhaps may not even be real - and indeed thus we are creating our own enemy and making it real ourselves. Then who is the true enemy?

-EA

THE eXchanger
09-27-2008, 09:55 PM
"he" ? maybe it is a "she" !!!
:mfr_lol:

Triggerpull29
09-27-2008, 09:57 PM
It resonates very well with everything I have experienced. I know Karma's harsh reality all to well. I was lucky enough to serve my punishment early because I changed my ways. I still have some karma to pay off though so it is coming, and i will accept it. I found the thread very enlightening and it answered a lot of questions that were teetering on the edge of my mind.

eleni
09-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Is there a link the original threads on Dark -Truth (were they saved there or moved as implied from your link)?

Edward Alexander
09-27-2008, 10:01 PM
No, I was sent the document as it is, but I will see if I can find the original threads.

-EA

eleni
09-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Thank you as some of the questions were missing in full etc; Do you have an intutition to where the insider is located on the planet? I had some feelings crop up.

Edward Alexander
09-27-2008, 10:21 PM
It seems the original thread was going on at http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message161085/pg1 but this thread seem to have gotten corrupted and posts are missing etc and it doesnt make much sense, at least I have problems trying to get through it here.

I saw "Insider" mentioned some problems with posts not showing up in the saved document of the posts as well. Guess it might be some updates or other things that they've done on the servers since the original posts in 2005 were posted that could have caused this.

It seems the best preservation of the posts and answers from Insider is in the document I posted here in the first post.

Regarding where the insider is/was located, I felt Europe for some reason and Itally, but that may mean nothing and could as well be subconcious connections to other related things from that area.

In either case it was an interesting read that I could relate to in many levels, and it also gave me some new insights and things to consider.

Blessings,
-EA

Son of Eire
09-27-2008, 10:32 PM
This has a lot of similarities to the writings of Gurdjieff and the secular Sufism of Idries Shah.

Swamisalami
09-27-2008, 10:51 PM
Very interesting information. Another compartment filling up. Can't say that its good or bad. It just is.......

THE eXchanger
09-27-2008, 11:00 PM
when the tax men
and religious men got together,
that's when we all got screwed !!!

and, the fleecing, it started ...

where do you think,
"the non-taxable church" idea
came from

anyone who actually takes the time to read their 501c thing,
would NOT want to operate, by all the rules that is in it ;)

when two or more gather--something happens

and, when rings are build,
there is NO religion inside of them

brightest blessings
susan~white lotus star
the eXchanger

arcora
09-27-2008, 11:04 PM
I have read through this document a number of times.

It made me think - hard.

I have come to the conclusion that it is more of the same. Large sections of truth wrapped insidiously with a few well thought out and well placed lies.

Dark forces at work.

ADAM KADMON
09-27-2008, 11:11 PM
I know a bit about this document beyond what he obviously states...

The "Insider" lives inside the earth, not on the surface. He "drinks from an underwater spring" and eats from a "hydroponics" garden as he states. He drops subtle hints to this fact again and again.

Further he makes it clear that he knows about the matrix which we "surface" folks don't typically know of. He asks if we even know what planet we're on. Only someone who knows about the Holographic reality we're in would even suggest something like this, and all "Insiders" know this.

He is one of the many "Insiders" that live in the earth and can see the bigger perspective of this whole thing. His blood-line is not what you think...

Research "The Hollow Earth" as this document lead me to some very telling information, the real source of "UFOs" and 4D E.T.s that live within this very planet...

Hope this shines a little light on "The Insider" and what he is really insider of.

Adam K.

Isa
09-27-2008, 11:26 PM
Thank you, Edward Alexander for this nugget of interest ! :thumb_yello:

I am finding this Project Avalon experience to be powerful in many ways. So many thought-provoking posts, so many interesting links, videos, interviews, etc ~ I just keep running headlong into launching pads over and over again that trigger an avalanche of awakenings within. It is never from 'believing' what someone else has said or not, but rather always from 'triggers' - sometimes just a simple word or sentence - that tap into aspects of my extended-consciousness already set in motion long ago.

Bit by bit... layer by layer...

It's Just Awesome

arcora
09-27-2008, 11:27 PM
He is one of the many "Insiders" that live in the earth and can see the bigger perspective of this whole thing. His blood-line is not what you think...

That was my conclusion.

What got me thinking was that (s)he admitted to a pattern of mixing lies with truth to mankind in the past - So why should (s)he be operating any differently now?

Edward Alexander
09-27-2008, 11:52 PM
The following quote was a good example of thought forms and the powers of our minds:


When masses are made to believe something negative, they may create what they did not want, which is how for instance the "NWO" like you people name it, works.

You are believing it is taking shape, so it will take shape and theorists are major players in helping this taking shape by bombarding you with "facts" that it is taking shape. Claiming you are giving in power everyday, and they control you more...while in reality you are in full control.


The media and news in general is a good example on this, specifically how they tend to bombard us with negative loaded stories to create a mass negative manifestation by the collective consciousness.

eleni
09-28-2008, 12:10 AM
Now what to make of this:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message513237/pg2

THE eXchanger
09-28-2008, 12:22 AM
I know a bit about this document beyond what he obviously states...

The "Insider" lives inside the earth, not on the surface. He "drinks from an underwater spring" and eats from a "hydroponics" garden as he states. He drops subtle hints to this fact again and again.

Further he makes it clear that he knows about the matrix which we "surface" folks don't typically know of. He asks if we even know what planet we're on. Only someone who knows about the Holographic reality we're in would even suggest something like this, and all "Insiders" know this.

He is one of the many "Insiders" that live in the earth and can see the bigger perspective of this whole thing. His blood-line is not what you think...

Research "The Hollow Earth" as this document lead me to some very telling information, the real source of "UFOs" and 4D E.T.s that live within this very planet...

Hope this shines a little light on "The Insider" and what he is really insider of.

Adam K.

precisely...
beyond 3D,
you can NOT use "the eXchanges"
that are currently in play in 3D

so, what are the riches there !?!?!?

you can dream about almost anything...
but, NOT everything you dream about,
you would want to transport into a 3D reality

so, what are the "real riches" ???

are a lot of people, missing the real boat/or ship ?

everything you think you own,
from a material standpoint,
can NOT be transported
out of 3D

yet, look how hard, many fight in the war, just to have

nothing, like information,
that does NOT give you a complete answer,
it makes you mine a little deeper ;)
there is an inner_world :thumb_yello:

brightest blessings

susan~white lotus star
The eXchanger

THE eXchanger
09-28-2008, 12:25 AM
The following quote was a good example of thought forms and the powers of our minds:



The media and news in general is a good example on this, specifically how they tend to bombard us with negative loaded stories to create a mass negative manifestation by the collective consciousness.

Mainstream News...is NOT as real, as, many think:mfr_omg:

they do NOT tend--they DO bombard people, who tune in to them

(what you believe, might NOT be a truth)

maybe, it is time, to tune out ???

susan
the eXchanger

GoingToFast
09-28-2008, 12:47 AM
It is not about bloodline, It is about soul-line. Blood is just a liquid that transfers oxygen in your body. But there are supreme souls that are being reborn to this world over and over again for different reasons, some bad but most of them good. They can be born into any families ore any blood on this earth and that is why royalty and other so called finer families are no better than the rest of us. There are supreme souls that are walking on this Earth with the rest of us and most of them are here to see to our well-being.

Edward Alexander
09-30-2008, 12:12 AM
Ok, the thread is finally back open again, thanks to the Mod who got it fixed :)

So now we can continue discussing this topic here, and let other be able to get aware of it as well. Since the thread is up and going again, feel free to send the link to anyone you think this might be of interest to :)

Will re-post some information shortly I posted earlier in another thread that got deleted, I have a backup somewhere.

Best wishes, and blessings
-EA

Edward Alexander
09-30-2008, 12:36 AM
Since this information has become very popular I took the time to make it into a normal webpage as well for those who prefer that or can not open PDF files, and the text is still available in its original PDF document file.

As a normal web page here:
http://www.dark-truth.org/articles/bloodlines-elite-illuminati-whistleblower.html

As the original PDF document here:
http://www.dark-truth.net/Revelations_of_an_Insider.pdf

If you want to download the pdf document, simply right click the link above, and chose a destination to save it on your computer. For reading the PDF document you need to have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed.

Best regards and blessings,
-EA

Trishsgate
09-30-2008, 01:40 AM
Very good find Edward and thank you for this info. I will do some more study on this one I have a few books\pdf's on the subject and it has been awhile but I do suspect also he is from the inner earth as well. The NWO from my research point is that it is the same agenda as the OWO and has always been the game of choice. The elite or what we term elites(s) are mere window dressing or puppets that play the game. As individuals we can destroy or build our own lives by choice so we are our very worst enemy or best friend depending on how far we have come.


The thought projection does work I have used it I had to be very careful in the thoughts that were created. One thing I did find disturbing was while using it I gained others thoughts as well to much pain out here for me to deal with. So much pain and sorrow in people's lives in 98' I released it. It has resurfaced some throughout the years but I have not worked much on keeping it.

This was a good quote as well.
The shape of a Pyramid yes, but people forgot the underground chamber.
The Top of the Pyramid is not the top.

These are some of my thoughts on the subject while not all inclusive by all means go with your own inner guide.

Again thanks
Peace & Love
Trish

Alexandra
09-30-2008, 02:38 AM
:tears:

houman
09-30-2008, 02:43 AM
GLP=Tavistock Institute playground=The PsyOps forum... (psy/social experimentation/engineering)

:rolleyes:

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwotavistockbestkeptsecret.shtml

http://100777.com/internet/glp

Houman

333mark333
09-30-2008, 03:04 AM
Well..........A very intelligent person, i resonated with so much of what he/she was saying. I am thinking hard and becoming?? I have been able to leave body consciousness before- i am starting to understand.

information
09-30-2008, 03:05 AM
Very interesting...Thanks Edward. So, if I understand the "bloodliner's" rap, the media is a lens to focus our thought energy into a certain form, like starting a recession by constantly broadcasting stories about it. If you get enough people to believe something, it manifests! Simple as that.

cited from the link:

"I might add this which may sound contrary to what I said but read carefully: When masses are made to believe something negative, they may create what they did not want, which is how for instance the "NWO" like you people name it, works. You are believing it is taking shape, so it will take shape and theorists are major players in helping this taking shape by bombarding you with "facts" that it is taking shape.
Claiming you are giving in power everyday, and they control you more...while in reality you are in full control.
So the people who are "waking up" to it are the ones who are creating it.
Visualization also works that way around."

One thing I know about manifesting and visualizing, only concentrate on what you DO want to happen, never on what you DON'T want.
Thanks again, Edward, you are definitely realizing your task on this earth...

china2012
09-30-2008, 03:52 AM
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crowmirror
09-30-2008, 06:55 AM
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sunnyrap
09-30-2008, 09:36 AM
Good grief--this guy is so DARK! There isn't an ounce of compassion/empathy/connection in him. 'Decreed by the Divine to Rule the Peasants' and 'you peasants (as separate from me) deserve everything you get'. OMG. He's been thoroughly programmed to think he deserves to rule and everyone else deserves what his 'bloodline' dishes out--and anyway, he's not responsible, he's just doing as instructed by 'divine beings'. Poor benighted soul. The sadness of his existence was palpable. His tone was flat and joyless. My questions to him would have been: 'How do you know YOUR world view is real? Who taught it to you?"

Several times I had the impression he was not human at all, and felt no connection to humans. He kept saying, 'you humans'. Huh? What is he?

Thanks but no thanks on listening to any more of his poisonous point of view. He has no answers as far as I'm concerned. Gave me the freaking willies...

lohiaaditya
09-30-2008, 10:57 AM
An absolutely great discussion with the insider.

I dont care whether he is what he says he is. I think he made a few very good points. We have to blame ourselves for accepting this system. If we want we can stay out of this system. But because of ignorance of the general public including you me and everyone we are where we are. Getting swayed like the Roman mob in Julius Caesar, we failed to think about what we were being fed. They used this opportunity and thought for us. Why blame them now when we did not think back then. So the best thing is act now. Get independent and out of this system where everyone is dependent. I think that was the message he was trying to give.

That's just an opinion.

china2012
09-30-2008, 12:06 PM
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sunnyrap
09-30-2008, 12:19 PM
I think we can blame those who use occult education, stealth and disemination to steal from others. Now, once people become aware of these tactics, we can blame ourselves if we don't avoid and disarm this type of activity. But to blame people who have trusted others who then betrayed their trust is like blaming the victim of a crime for being a victim instead of the perpetrator of the crime.

Great to take full responsibility for what one attracts into one's life...but when it is on this large a scale, just being a human living on the planet is all you needed to 'attract' it.

How about reserving some of that harsh judgment for people who knew what they were doing to others and did it anyway?

Good points, indeed. Absolving himself of criminal activity, imo.

Southsea
09-30-2008, 12:41 PM
Shhh, he's watching! :thumb_yello:

corvo
09-30-2008, 12:43 PM
This guy knows his matter.
On the other side what he says is nothing new, he is clearly influenced by Easter philosophies like advaita vedanta.
What he miss is the aspect of the compassioned love that transform a man in an Avatar.

But I agree on a central point: real WILL could realize everything but only very few men have it.
The opinion, that is very diffused in this forum that is enough to "think" positive to change the future is simply not working.
To control matter (aka the kingdom) you need Imagination (ALEPH) and Will (BETH).
But tho focus your will you need to de- attach yourself from desire.
More you deattach and more you feel no need to use your will for a ... "special scope".
This means that if you are completed focused you do nothing.
This is the old knowledge about "magic".
Nothing to do with New Age “love and peace”.

Book
09-30-2008, 01:00 PM
Edward,

Many thanks for the HTML formatting. Adobe and my machine do not get along and never have done so.

I have read this document a number of times and I am still dissecting it. You have made that task much easier.

Go well,
Book

Edward Alexander
09-30-2008, 03:50 PM
Regarding the mind, will, intentions, thoughts, desire and so on: Whatever these are focused on they will attract. For most people there are conflicts between these different aspects of ourselves though. One who has the "intention" to do good things may still have the "desires" to do negative things or "thoughts" that are bad. We all perform "magic" constantly through these aspects that manifests by our mind - whether we are consciously aware of this or not. The more harmonized you are within, the more harmonized your outer experience is as well. Basically that is one of the main themes of what the Insider is talking about - and there is a lot of truth to this which could be useful to be aware of.

the Mind has great powers, and the Universe is Mental - and as we all are connected to this great universe we are also connected to the Mind of the Universe, meaning that we have the power to affect the universe and what happens in it (such as in our own lives) through the power of our Minds.

Visualization, positive thinking, meditation is very helpful to achieve your goals, so is living by the laws and principles that governs us, such as the Law of Attraction, Cause and Effect, etc

The good thing is that you can change things for your better, and instead of creating negative manifestations, make them positive. Specially now that you are aware of this possibility, you should look more into literature about Thought Forms and how the Mind affects the Universe (and the world around you).

Actually all mystical teachings, magic, healing, psychic powers and etc all have this very important law to thank for their functionality - that your Mind is the creator of what happens in your life, and that what you have in your mind will Manifest in Reality.

Maybe you will find these related articles interesting and enlightening as well:

Here is an article about thought forms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Forms

The All: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_All

The Mental Plane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_plane

Law of Attraction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction

Kybalion (The seven hermetic principles): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybalion

Hermeticism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

All of these articles has many terms and names linked to other articles specifically about them which you may find interesting to check out too.

Some books worth checking out regarding thought forms and the power of the mind:
Creating Magical Entities: http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Magickal-En...n/dp/1932517448 (http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Magickal-Entities-Complete-Creation/dp/1932517448)

Wisdom of the Mystic Masters: http://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Mystic-Master...d/dp/0139615326 (http://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Mystic-Masters-Joseph-Weed/dp/0139615326)

New Hermetics: http://www.amazon.com/New-Hermetics-Centur...n/dp/1578633052 (http://www.amazon.com/New-Hermetics-Century-Magick-Illumination/dp/1578633052)

Magical use of Thought Forms: http://www.amazon.com/Magical-Use-Thought-...t/dp/1567180841 (http://www.amazon.com/Magical-Use-Thought-Forms-Empowerment/dp/1567180841)

Videos:
How to get rich with the secret use of quantum science:
http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2008/01/how...ret-use-of.html (http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-get-rich-with-secret-use-of.html)

The Secret - The Law of Attraction: http://www.guba.com/watch/3000081898

Web:
Short text on how to create thought forms for good purposes: http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles...am_and_use.html (http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/t/thought_forms_how_to_program_and_use.html)

That's some resources for you to get your nose around in and see if it can make any sense and be as useful for you as it has for me..

Also be aware of what can be called the 3 forms of Magic:

Black Magic: To either harm someone through the powers of magic on purpose or by accident. This includes yourself. On purpose is self-explanatory, so I'll give an example on accidental black magic: You want to be rich, so you do a ritual and ask to get rich. Some days later your mother dies and you inherit a large sum of money, and are now rich. So you performed black magic, even though that was not the purpose. Magic usually takes the shortest way to manifest, so if you are not specific the effects can be nasty. "Be careful what you wish for, it might just come true!"

Grey magic: When you use magic to achieve something you want, such as money, or use it to help someone, through healing, without doing any damage to others in the process. To make sure you end up doing grey magic instead of black magic you have to know what you are doing, and how to formulate your wishes and intentions. An example here can also be that of being rich. A rather safe way is to do a ritual where you ask for getting rich by getting a good job or coming up with a great idea for a product, that is beneficial to the best intentions for everyone involved.

White magic: This is the magic where you are having higher spiritual experiences through rituals and mediations, such as astral projection and meeting higher astral masters, experiencing your higher self, communicating with God, angels, deeper profound understanding of your personal being, existence, life and death and so on. What they often refer to as "enlightenment" can be an result of White magic.

This was a very brief explanation of the three types of magic, and of course it takes a lot of practice and study to get the right understanding of it and how it works, and how to do it right so you are most certain to not do mistakes. But it sums it up pretty easily understandable so most of you should get an idea of the difference. All of the 3 forms of Magic above could have been expanded upon but I decided to make it as brief as possible to get the main idea. On a daily basis most people perform Black and Grey magic constantly - and there are other people out there who intentionally try make us perform black magic (which is heavily introduced to us through the news, media, movies, tv etc among other things). Again this is something people do without being aware of it, and they are affected by the effects without knowing it - they only experience the effects but do not realize the cause behind them.

Wishing and visualization are also magic, you do not need to perform physical rituals to get magical results, things can manifest from the mind alone, after all your mind is the tool that makes it possible. Some people even prefer to just visualize the whole rituals in their mind instead of carrying them out physically, while others find it more effective to actually perform them and live more into it. The bottom line is, when you do any magic, or want anything, make sure to define the way it shall be conceived into reality in a way that is good for both yourself and anyone else.

Follow your intuition once you've located it.

As a final note, be aware that just like you can affect outside elements from within, external elements can influence you within.

With that said good luck on a great journey ahead of you, I'm sure you'll have many interesting and wonderful experiences and insights in the coming times!

Blessings,
-Edward Alexander

Edward Alexander
09-30-2008, 04:15 PM
The knowledge and understanding about things as that which I just summed up in my above post is mainly what our world leaders and the elite do not want us to know about, thus the reason we never learn about this in our educational systems and it is labeled as nonsense by the general science and society.

Behind the scenes and in the various secret societies and orders they all practice these things themselves though, and the ignorance of the rest of the world is what gives them such power and have gotten them into the positions they are in. The methods they use to keep people in this ignorance is profound and includes many methods - some were mentioned in the Bloodline Insider text.

But it seems more and more people are waking up these days and realizing not only their own being, but also the true beings that are governing this world and our lives. As the spirit of the people rises, the darkness of the leaders are exposed - and thus they are eventually falling apart, just like we see happening these days.

Spread the Life, Light and LOVE to your fellow men and women.

Peace be with you,
-Edward Alexander

Stephen
09-30-2008, 04:22 PM
I found this quite interesting.
Actually a member here (omshanti2) shared this with me on OMF this morning.
I did not even see this thread until a little while ago.

Too bad we cannot ask this being any questions now.
I would have asked questions regarding other dimensions in pertaining to 'What Planet We Live On...'.
As I was reading it I kept thinking of 4-5th dimensions that this being was leading too.

The person/member here that said this being is from the INside of the Earth makes sense.
Good catch!

Light or Dark...doesn't matter at this point.
To me it is just another piece of the puzzle. Just like a puzzle you have on a table that you are working on.
A piece that you set aside and try to fit it in later on. ( I have a bunch of those kind of pieces...hehe)
I use that style of thinking for a lot of different subjects that do not make total sense to me.
I simply set those pieces aside for later on....THEN sometimes things just *PoP* into my head and I grok it.

Still, many of these 'answers' were to vague for me.
I want more meat. I have had enough of appetizers... :smoke:

information
09-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Thanks again, Edward. True, this is the knowledge they don't want us to have. It SHOULD be taught in school! You are a blessing, sir.

Stephen
09-30-2008, 04:30 PM
QUESTION:

Op IF you are indeed who & what you say you are, then you will know that you and your ilk are in big
trouble...
Your time is short and those you belong to,
who are in our space quadrant as we speak, already know it! I imagine they are a tad busy right at
this moment.
But of course you must keep up appearances even when you know you fight a losing battle.
Personally I will be very happy to see the day... and it is coming, sooner than you think ;)
A:
There is no end of time.
A long time ago, the people did ALMOST manage to take over, and then bad things happened
on earth to those people....what are you seeing now?
Are you really living on the planet you think you are?

Is this referring to the time of Atlantis?
Did we have 'more power' then? Meaning were we 4th dimensional then?

Stephen
09-30-2008, 04:43 PM
seems to work fine from here...maybe its being blocked in your region.

Works for me too. AND I have Anal-Ass Comcast that is going to LIMIT us to 250Gb per month starting October 1st. :mad3:

china2012
09-30-2008, 05:45 PM
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Zelphael
09-30-2008, 05:53 PM
I spent an hour or so reading this today. Most interesting. It correlates with a lot of things I believe and have read elsewhere. I feel it is from someone who has a lot of genuine insight.

After finishing it, my main thought was that this is someone who is a Hermeticist. His worldview seems to perfectly fit in to neoplatonic, (semi-)gnostic hermeticism which is also a worldview I share.

I only wish we could have asked him questions :(

Edward Alexander
09-30-2008, 06:05 PM
Indeed, I did see the hermetic influences myself which I too found intereseting, hence my mentioning of hermetics earlier with a link to more information about it (in my big previous post with lots of links etc).

Personally I've found a lot of great insights and experiences from this ideology myself.

Since on the topic, I highly recommend the new translation of the Corpus Hermeticum which also includes the first english translation of The Definitions of Hermes Trismegistus to Asclepius. The book is called "The Ways of Hermes" and should be in the bookshelf of anyone with an interest in the Hermetic system:
http://www.amazon.com/Way-Hermes-Translations-Definitions-Trismegistus/dp/0892811862

May Nous be with you,
-Edward Alexander

Maya
09-30-2008, 07:37 PM
Did anyone else notice the amount of apparently random words surrounded by quotation marks?

The very end of the PDF says

".......I said more than you read, pass it on. Return." (my quotation marks not the authors)

So I went back and read through again and all the words and sentences in quotations jumped out at me so I wrote them all down. Some of it actually made a bit too much sense for me to ignore.

Here are the words I got:-

The more you take the more it produces to balance itself bloodlines I am not a slave us the dark sider us gurus good visualization victim witness truth sin bad good true master leaders have mastered their game what do you do when you've mastered the game? Good bad kings outer walls love harsher harsh societies gain it sin death master of the game philosophies prophet holy countries researched insiders true illusion being of lucifer malicious malicious malicious malicious malicious without secret socieites mediums celebrities saviour working noone outside this earth sees a reason to free any of us if there is such a thing waiting wanting son of god real feuds world events knowledge sold their soul prophets/sons of god/angels/saints/etc delete health care philosophy artist stand the test of time revolution love happened to encounter star friends saviours in front of you without reason death god god gods prophets celebrity foreign natives foreign servants new NWO facts waking up rift god interested wanting parts-covers us I us

I just wondered if anyone else had thought what he/she meant with the words "".......I said more than you read,..."

Was he/she meaning it by way of a hidden message or simply meaning that we should read the actual answers on a deeper level?

Maybe I've just lost the plot completely - that's always a possibility :wink2:

Edward Alexander
09-30-2008, 08:07 PM
Interesting observation. And yes, I too assume that what he meant with "I said more than you read" is that there is more in the text than most people will notice, or understand, when they read it. In other words, reading something and understanding what you read is two different things.

-Edward Alexander

wes_whitewolf
10-01-2008, 12:28 AM
Thanks for this amazing piece Edward...:yikes:
There are many nuggets buried within if one goes back and carefully picks them out. The surface alone is likey too much for most. From many of the threads from others, they are not keeping an open mind when interpreting the words and this is unfortunate. Like he/she points out, its all within us (the answers) and we do create what it is that we dislike. He is also validating what Bill & Kerry point out in their recent interview that the biggest secret kept from us by the elite is the fact that each of us is much more powerful than we believe. We have the power to steer our futures if we take the time to understand how...again from within.
This person or entity most certainly has an inside track...he/she is trying to pass something very important to us. I feel very fortunate to have been alerted to this by Kate in the UK. I look forward to sharing this with my tight circle of like minds and see what else we can glean from it...there is much more here then surface appearances!!!!
Love, Peace & Respect!:original:

THE eXchanger
10-01-2008, 01:07 AM
[QUOTE=Maya;33279]
".......I said more than you read, pass it on. Return." (my quotation marks not the authors)

This message,
was written with "light encoding"
by the "he/or, the she" who wrote it

there are definitely "parts"
that are there, that a once/or twice over it

they might NOT immediately "jump out" at you

you, each, and, everyone of you
have "all the parts"
it is strictly a matter, of learning how to uncover them,
how to mine them, and, mind them

everything is "on_board"equipment

the biggest trouble is,
that many of the miners,
are in the mode, of what "is" termed,
"dead" wood, or, dead "would"
(pardon the pun)

You would...
if you could,
"Will it to be, so, it will be"
is that NOT what a good fool/magican/or hermit might do ?

Instead, of sitting there,
and, removing the "could", "should" and, "would"
and, replacing them with "can", "shall" and, "will"

The only trouble is -
that most do NOT see
and, they over_look the obvious

most of the message provided
appears to have some of it "chopped out"
(this is done, to make you go beyond regular thinking)

it is encoded, and,
has been written
with the elements of "light"

ahhh...i do NOT think,
you ever lose the plot,
i think, perhaps,
if you look outside of you,
it is, then, that you lose the plot, your plot

if you look, deep inside of you,
to find the answers,
all of it, is already hidden inside of you

the biggest trouble is this:

that, it is very hard to prove to you
what lurks within me,
and, what lurks within you,
can NOT always, in all ways,
be seen, by both parties,
that show up to eXchange

Very few have this abilility "developed"
as, it has NOT been broadcast widely
but, kept within secret circles
and, only shared with a few to a few

There are plenty of possibilities...
however, they are merely conclusions,
of thought procees,
that "the thinker", has NOT yet put into action
(which add up, to NOTHiNG)

There are potentials...
both good ones, and, NOT so good ones
that eXist in all energetic eXchanges

perhaps, that is part of the hindge
that opens the door !!!

A series of "locks"
and, a series of "keys"
that lead you to more, NOT less

you can "pass it on"
you can "pass on it"
you can "return"

all very viable options ;)

brightest blessings of energy, light and love

susan ~ white lotus star
the eXchanger

Morgan
10-01-2008, 03:22 AM
I just wondered if anyone else had thought what he/she meant with the words "".......I said more than you read,..."

Was he/she meaning it by way of a hidden message or simply meaning that we should read the actual answers on a deeper level?

I just took it to mean that one should read slowly, think about the responses given, read between the lines, etc. Most people when reading anything (myself included) don't do this.

And this may be irrelevent, but what I understood about the PTB:
- there are the gov'ts or GWB's of the world...
- there are the Rockefellers/Rothschilds/etc. of the world...
- then there are those above all of these? Powers we don't even know the names of?
- these PTB without names are supposedly 'neutral', simply providing knowledge, it's up to "us" how we use it...

The one thing I fail to see is that there blatantly is a conspiracy against humanity with engineered diseases, destroying our air/food/land/water/psyches. Now, from my own thinking on this, it sounds as though the nameless PTB provide 'knowledge' to the named PTB, and the named PTB use this supposedly neutral information to the detriment of the planet's population.

And we, the common folk, accept what we get presented with (for the most part).

I also see many, err, inconsistencies/contradictions in this document, but I've been going on about 10 hours sleep in the last 68 hours so it's all fuzzy at this point. This person did seem to judge a bit, and dole out the 'spiritual advice' despite saying let no man stand between you and the Divine Law (or whatever it was she/he said). Secondly, if we as humans in the flesh and as souls are all equal, then why do certain souls get to repeatedly incarnate into the same 'privileged' families? If no one is more gifted or at an advantage than another, why do these souls/families get to have this information while the rest of us are left to blunder on ignorantly, or, by some stroke of magnificent luck, question our reality and head down the spiritual path?

Anyway, maybe these questions are irrelevant but they were things I was thinking about. Might be my own 'issues' about hierarchy :P Or they may be valid questions, ones that I do not have answers for.

I really do not think that, if certain souls have the choice to incarnate into privilege and knowledge, while the rest of us have no such choice, how is that equal, how is that aiding 'their' evolution, and how does it aid our evolution if we're so easily able to slip simply by making offhand comments and lengthening our samsara?

karelia
10-01-2008, 04:22 AM
I really do not think that, if certain souls have the choice to incarnate into privilege and knowledge, while the rest of us have no such choice, how is that equal, how is that aiding 'their' evolution, and how does it aid our evolution if we're so easily able to slip simply by making offhand comments and lengthening our samsara?

Hm. Could that be your perception? What if s/he means to say that those souls who have that choice have it because they've sufficiently advanced through previous incarnations so that now, they're given a choice to advance further and learn the secret knowledge?

A lot of what Insider said resonates with me. Even the way he called us earth dwellers peasants. I mean, this person/entity does appear to have greater knowledge than we do. If I see a 30-yr-old who keeps falling over his own feet, I'll go through a few stages of dawning comprehension: 1. I feel sorry for him/her. 2. I shake my head that an adult is so clumsy. 3. I observe and conclude that he keeps falling over his feet because he's never bothered, never made the effort to learn how to walk properly. 4. I think of him as an idiot... Most humans are not willing to take responsibility for their actions; they love to make up excuses for their mistakes instead of simply accepting they made a mistake. That prevents them from learning from their mistakes. So, someone like Insider, who can see it so clearly because he certainly stands outside or at least on the edge and observes this over and over and over again, will have little patience for our idiocy, thus he refers to us as peasants...

Shechaiyah
10-01-2008, 04:29 AM
My understanding about bloodlines, as it applies to myself and my experience, I inherited RepTOID blood from my Cherokee great-grandmother on my mother's side and RepTILIAN blood from my British father.

So I am doubly-blessed with non-verbal abilities to communicate.

In a mammalian human society, this makes me pretty odd because my telepathic (non-verbal ability to intuit from other Souls) abilities outweigh my verbal abilities.

People like me enjoy solitude more, because human company is too noisy.


Shech--

Edited to correct errors.

Harmeen
10-01-2008, 09:52 AM
Edward, Thank you for posting the thread, very interesting indeed.

Could you confirm that this web activity from the insider was 3 years ago??

Peace, Love and light

H

Edward Alexander
10-01-2008, 03:09 PM
Yeah it was in 2005 as stated.

The original thread is still around in the forum it was going on in, but it's been corrupted either by software errors or hackers or so and most of it is gone now and many posts are just blank. I noticed the Insider mentioned this problem happening even when he was writing there.

-EA

Book
10-01-2008, 03:20 PM
I confess that the peasant reference annoyed me. It seemed "out of context" considering the message delivered. Despite that the person made sense.

Go well,
Book

THE eXchanger
10-01-2008, 03:49 PM
most of them,
do NOT even see you
as anything more than a slave,
or, someone who lines their pockets,
or, extends you credit,
(which you view as your credit--but, it is your credit in the negative pole)
(The debt, is really their credit, in the positive pole)
so, when you use it,
they already have you,
locked in the negative pole,
especially, since NOW,
you have to pay them back

a peasant, is at least a free man/or woman

and, almost none of them
will ever see you as equal

they do everything in their power
to keep the positive pole with them


this is why, their deck of cards is being
blown around, by the wind of changes !!!

they didn't count on a middle class ...
that might become smart

people in europe--have been paying huge dollars for gas,
for more than a decade -- some of the costs , esp in the UK are unbelievably high -- and, many are NOT rich

(however, oft times, houses are passed down generation to generation,
so, many never had to face, paying a mortgage)

however, also, a lot of them, had to find financing,
when basic living costs, exceeded the cash they had

(again--sucking them into their positive pole)

it is going to have to happen,
the fall, of The iLLs
to create a more level playing field
for all people on earth

we are all created equal-often, it is "the choices"
that are made, that destroy that field

how very unfair
that an 80/20 rule, exercised in 6 levels
leaves about 9-10 men/women standing,
and, all of them, are trying to scramble
up the same pin ...
the top of the pin,
does NOT have ROOM for all of them,
and, NONE of them, trust each other !!!

it is hard for everyone to climb this type of mountain,
as, there is NOT room, for everyone at the top !!!

as, i said, in another thread...
the inner circles, are turning on the inner circles,
and, all of them will come tumbling down

if you can -- listen to larry nichols / or nichols live

on www.blogtalkradio.com at NOON

or, listen in the archives

he is a "real" whistleblower, with a lot to say

love
susan
the eXchanger

dangerousdiva
10-01-2008, 10:05 PM
I actually read the entire PDF. It sounded like two people were responding behind the curtain. One was an egocentric impatient asshat and the other was a more spiritual inclined snotty English professor...

...over all it was vague with over tones of discouragment. I thought some of the questions were good ones.

Which ones were yours?

china2012
10-02-2008, 07:59 AM
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china2012
10-02-2008, 08:15 AM
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china2012
10-02-2008, 08:38 AM
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master yowe
10-02-2008, 12:58 PM
One question that was not asked was are you service to self or service to others !

karelia
10-02-2008, 04:54 PM
One question that was not asked was are you service to self or service to others !

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Makes me wonder, though: Is service to self even a possibility once you enter the higher dimensions? I can't imagine so.

gordon
10-02-2008, 05:55 PM
My understanding about bloodlines, as it applies to myself and my experience

No, I am not apart of that bloodline. My "secret" is a secret. My secret can not be told just to anyone...(Inrespect to all).

Norval
10-02-2008, 05:59 PM
There are many blood lines with ET DNA in them, this is well known.

The bible mentions the Goliath family and the six fingers and six toes, which were all
killed. The emperor of Japan is known to have been descended from a Sun Goddess /
ETs.

Zelphael
10-02-2008, 09:01 PM
Yeah it was in 2005 as stated.

The original thread is still around in the forum it was going on in, but it's been corrupted either by software errors or hackers or so and most of it is gone now and many posts are just blank. I noticed the Insider mentioned this problem happening even when he was writing there.

-EA

Edward, on a few occasions he references posts made by other people that were insightful and/or he replies directly to things people said, but these weren't pasted into the PDF.

Is it possible to find what those things were? Might provide more insight.



---

And on a random note, I pulled a tarot card while thinking about Insider. This is the image I got - King of Cups. Take it or leave it, up to you...

http://images.taroteca.multiply.com/image/12/photos/441/500x500/64/63-Minor-Cups-King.jpg?et=FUwg6X5OVwLM7XrGJxTYKQ&nmid=50294733

macrostheblack
10-02-2008, 09:16 PM
To be quite honest I found the "insiders" comments boring and pointless. It gave no clarity on any subject/question asked. If anything, reading it may leave you feeling downhearted - a cruel attempt to destroy your strength, state of mind and belief.

Its a very troubled individual in my opinion who gave those answers and "she" hasnt effected my life in the slightest.

Macros

Racsouran
10-03-2008, 12:48 AM
QUESTION:



Is this referring to the time of Atlantis?
Did we have 'more power' then? Meaning were we 4th dimensional then?

That particular response of that insider "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?", seems to indicate under his viewpoint that we are in a world that is being dreamed by us. That we are probably resting slept in another place, planet and or dimensional place, made or not by "x" beings, wich we are a participant of that process.



Under his perspective the planet seems to be a stage put on place to force us to change, to whatever thing it is intended to.

As a stage, even the bad ones and the good ones are just players of the stage doing their respective roles. Such containers, as above, so below, try to limit ourselves, showing to us explicitly their own limits.... quite ironical indeed.

He said "".......I said more than you read,..." because he is aware of something that we the players, are never able to know, because he is part of the mechanical part of it. We are the living part of it.

So the key question there is "how to get out of the prison"?. The response seems to be: there is no prison.

When you get feed with the idea that some kind of prison exists, you are being tested on your trust on yourself: if you fail, you will say that there is a prison.

Then if we are feeded to think this is a prison, indeed it is, because it works as a rehabilitation program under my perspective made by a civilitation hugely by far more advanced than whatīs shown here in this planet, we being actually living breathing part of that civilization, who made this program for people which "lost" the particular habilities we have to achieve again to release ourselves of the prison, by feeling that there is no prison in reality. U have to get the grip of that only by yourself.

Thatīs one probable perspective.


Remember that GLP is a psyop site wich carries on Social engineering things. Just google "godlikeproductions tavistock jason Lucas"

Jason lucas is Infinity there, the one who bought GLP in 2004, one of the dirty rulers of that place who works for lop.com a spiware company. Tavistock is the intelligence agency wich used as a playground GLP in the first place.

eleni
10-03-2008, 01:31 AM
Racsouran, that's what I got out of the insider's replies as well.
Very interesting about Tavistock and GLP. Very interesting.

Archangel
10-03-2008, 02:42 AM
I found this individual to be a continuation of Mark Twains Mysterious Stranger. The same strikingly ignorent Genius. Satan in the passage often gave such high minded responses to the wonderings of Humans he would encounter. All the while the lives he touches fall apart much like the evil this individual is perpurtrating on the planet. It is the blind ignorance with which this persons spouts the mantra of their believe system which is founded on deception and misdirection.....Oh but I am sure they never lie to their own....What was it they called Lucifer in the Bible?.....Oh yea, The Deciever

Realview
10-03-2008, 04:31 AM
Somewhat reminiscent of Paul Shockly and "Cosmic Awareness" of the 70s.

He lays a lot of emphasis on the Universal Mind / Mind of the Universe, which is AKA the Devil. He seems to confuse not reincarnating soon as not reincarnating at all. After death here (material/spiritual regions), souls may reside for a very long time in the Spiritual/Material regions, leading some to believe they are free from reincarnation. His understanding of the true cosmology of the creation is limited. He has not appreciation the purely spiritual division and therefore the Supreme Being and the value of the lords presence in individual form here on earth today. Not all "Gurus" are false. One great lie is to believe in either the false teacher or no teacher.

What he refers to as "Higher Beings" may be the gods of the lower regions of the spiritual/material division like Shiva and Vishnu.

Paraphrasing his best points:

Anything that consumes our attention and energy outward, draws us naturally downward.

Look to the welfare of our own individual soul is of paramount importance.

The human body is a rare and special gift that should not be wasted.

This world is a prison and our primary duty is to find our way home.


All in all, this is a very interesting Q&A who ever he may be.

Edward Alexander
10-03-2008, 05:13 AM
Regarding "where we are" here is something that was revealed to me during a contact with one ascended Master:

I went to my astral sanctum and met my Guide ("Gatekeeper", whom guards the "portal" to my personal astral sanctum).

Not going into too much details about all the things I did, but I'll explain the main event that took place and which was the reason I went there. I met one of my Masters ("teacher", "ascended being", what you want) and asked him if he could show me the purpose of these experiences where I find myself in other peoples bodies.

The communication and way of receiving answers in this realm is a bit (extremely really) different than here in the physical plane. First of all it's telepathic. So, when communicating in a wordly way so to speak, where I have the questions formulated as words in my mind the answer is often received before I can completely finish formulating the question. So communication is very fast and instant. Another form of communication that is more frequent when "answers" are shown to me, is that it is not in any verbal form but more a visual form, as living images, or a complex presentation shown in my mind.

So in any case, the answer I received was in this complex way so I can't put it into excact words, but I will try word is as close to what I was shown as I can:

Basically he told me that the reasons for these experiences was a part of my spiritual development and understanding of my self and true being. It was revealed to me that these other people are other aspects of myself, or incarnations if you want, and that I had been experiencing these moments of time in these other bodies to see that reality is that we are more than "one" physical and spiritual being. I was shown that, which I can only explain as a myriad of parallel alternate versions of myself, exists in the same moment and their development unfolds together with my own, and that all of my other selves are connected to a "higher self" or "soul" and that what these physical bodies have within them is only a portion of that complete soul, such as our astral bodies etc, like branches of a tree and leaves on the branches. Ultimately, we develop ourselves inwards, and not outwards, meaning that each of my selves will not "expand" in consciousness and physical and spiritual development, but rather "implode" into that "higher soul" or "true being" that I am - and that the experiences of all my alternate selves will at some moment merge with this "higher soul" and create a Oneness where I will experience myself from a completely new perspective and see myself as the being I really am. Then, I will as this new "Oneness" become "free" from the current location where I am (or rather where the "higer soul" is located) and "ascend" to higher realms and be free of all physical bonds and continue the spiritual and mental development and understanding. But there is more after this "Oneness" is achieved too, higher "realms" and new things to discover about reality of Being and Existence, but I asked him to end it there as I had been shown what I was wondering about and wanted to leave the rest up to when the time comes.

So that is how it was revealed to me at last in regards of my personal experiences. It certainly gave me some new insights and perspectives and I do feel more settled and calm now when it comes to these experiences.

I felt like I should share this part of what I experienced in my astral sanctum here as it may be interesting or spread some insights/reflections to others whom have had similar experiences. Perhaps to other people as well. There are other parts that happened that is of a more personal level and serves no purpose to share.

And this is what I gathered, it is obviously something that can not easily be verified so I will consider it a most likely possibility rather than say that I now "know" that this is really it. But in any case it provided me with some really interesting new experiences and insights into my own mind and spirit if nothing else =)

Thanks, and peace profound!
-Edward Alexander

Edward Alexander
10-03-2008, 05:14 AM
And someone asked me to rephrase what I was explaning in another way to clarify what I meant, and here is my response to that person:

Well I only retold what I was told by an astral Master, it was quite complex and hard to explain but I tried my best =)

But yeah, that's how I got it, there are alternate versions of ourselves in alternate (parallel) worlds/dimensions (whatever you want to call it). And each of them contain a soul-fragment, or astral body and various other energy bodies, which is connected to the "true" soul (or "higher soul"). I would say it goes a bit further up than our "higher self", as our "higher self" is basically being aware of the highest aspect of our current incarnation here and being our best in this single plane and do not neccessarly include the knowledge of these "other selves". And yes they are unique, and they consist of all time-frames, meaning past, present and future, in other words all earlier incarnations and future reincarnations is out there already enfolding their experiences and existence on their own, without general knowledge of the other selves and this fact (?) which all gradually develop towards the Oneness with the Higher Soul, or True Self - and once that is reached, all of these alternate versions of oneself will merge with ones Higher Soul and become th Oneness and progress towards further development, understanding and insights, as well as experiences on a higher level of existence. I guess you can say the "Higher Soul" is the "host", and all the alternate versions of ourselves down "here" (on the lower planes) are the "clients". Sort of like a tree, it has branches with many leaves, and at certain points such as winter the tree (host) will suck in all its resin so the leaves withers and falls of and dies, yet the tree itself stays alive. So, in that sense, you can compare your body here with that of a leaf of a tree, a leaf that is not aware of the tree it is connected to, and at a certain point the life force will be sucked out of the leaf (you) and back to the tree (higher soul) and become one again. But it do not sprout new leaves (bodies) but instead evolves to another state of being (The Higher Soul as Oneness).

Sorry if my explanation is not the best but it was quite complex and hard to put into words so I try use some metaphors to perhaps make it more understandable (?)

Best wishes,
Edward Alexander

MMe M
10-03-2008, 05:43 AM
I read this when you initially posted it and I have mulled over it quite a bit. One or two issues bother me.

Swearing is not a sure fire way to repeat a lifetime here. If it was somethiung as small as that there wouldnt be enough room on this planet. What is meant by not taking the lords name in vain primarily means to not use the lord when making an oath, or something of that nature. Like for instance, "as god is my witness", or "by god" and followed by whatever petty squabble you have going on at the time.

It is easy to call someone a peasant that is not privy to the whole picture. The difference between a peasant and an aristocrat is merely money, education and control. This person seems to like to keep those in their place. The arrogance and animosity are disturbing.

If we do not realize this is a prison and much worse, we have no hope of escaping? wtf? So if I can still see great beauty here, if I have been happy for the most part, loved lived and hopefully made others see some good outside of themselves as well as in, I am doomed for all eternity? wtf ever. :mad3:

I have my own theories as to the nationality of the writer but do not wish to offend anyone.

Edward Alexander
10-03-2008, 06:18 AM
Being doomed or not for not realizing this is a matter of definitions.

From my experience many people live happily after death, without even being aware of being dead!

Many also enter other realms, astral planes if you want, that are quite beautiful and wonderful, some can be called "heavens", but they are on a "lower level" and the people there are indeed "stuck" just as many people are here.

The main point is that people will progress though, they will develop, and at some point realize their true being and what existence really is - so thus no one is really "trapped", all will be free.

Simply knowing of these things just said, and being aware of them, can be enough to "go further".

In my own journeys, I've met people in all sorts of different habitations in their afterlives, most of them are really wonderful and beautiful, in some places the inhabitants are aware of being in the spirit realms and physically "dead", while in others they live more like physical lives and still are restricted to similar physical laws we got here.

Some where never "alive", in a physical sense.

It is in the end all about becoming aware, gaining inisight, and expanding ones consciousness.

Love is out there, for us all, in the end.

Best wishes,
-EA

Racsouran
10-03-2008, 11:17 AM
Regarding "where we are" here is something that was revealed to me during a contact with one ascended Master:

I went to my astral sanctum and met my Guide ("Gatekeeper", whom guards the "portal" to my personal astral sanctum).

Not going into too much details about all the things I did, but I'll explain the main event that took place and which was the reason I went there. I met one of my Masters ("teacher", "ascended being", what you want) and asked him if he could show me the purpose of these experiences where I find myself in other peoples bodies.

The communication and way of receiving answers in this realm is a bit (extremely really) different than here in the physical plane. First of all it's telepathic. So, when communicating in a wordly way so to speak, where I have the questions formulated as words in my mind the answer is often received before I can completely finish formulating the question. So communication is very fast and instant. Another form of communication that is more frequent when "answers" are shown to me, is that it is not in any verbal form but more a visual form, as living images, or a complex presentation shown in my mind.

So in any case, the answer I received was in this complex way so I can't put it into excact words, but I will try word is as close to what I was shown as I can:

Basically he told me that the reasons for these experiences was a part of my spiritual development and understanding of my self and true being. It was revealed to me that these other people are other aspects of myself, or incarnations if you want, and that I had been experiencing these moments of time in these other bodies to see that reality is that we are more than "one" physical and spiritual being. I was shown that, which I can only explain as a myriad of parallel alternate versions of myself, exists in the same moment and their development unfolds together with my own, and that all of my other selves are connected to a "higher self" or "soul" and that what these physical bodies have within them is only a portion of that complete soul, such as our astral bodies etc, like branches of a tree and leaves on the branches. Ultimately, we develop ourselves inwards, and not outwards, meaning that each of my selves will not "expand" in consciousness and physical and spiritual development, but rather "implode" into that "higher soul" or "true being" that I am - and that the experiences of all my alternate selves will at some moment merge with this "higher soul" and create a Oneness where I will experience myself from a completely new perspective and see myself as the being I really am. Then, I will as this new "Oneness" become "free" from the current location where I am (or rather where the "higer soul" is located) and "ascend" to higher realms and be free of all physical bonds and continue the spiritual and mental development and understanding. But there is more after this "Oneness" is achieved too, higher "realms" and new things to discover about reality of Being and Existence, but I asked him to end it there as I had been shown what I was wondering about and wanted to leave the rest up to when the time comes.

So that is how it was revealed to me at last in regards of my personal experiences. It certainly gave me some new insights and perspectives and I do feel more settled and calm now when it comes to these experiences.

I felt like I should share this part of what I experienced in my astral sanctum here as it may be interesting or spread some insights/reflections to others whom have had similar experiences. Perhaps to other people as well. There are other parts that happened that is of a more personal level and serves no purpose to share.

And this is what I gathered, it is obviously something that can not easily be verified so I will consider it a most likely possibility rather than say that I now "know" that this is really it. But in any case it provided me with some really interesting new experiences and insights into my own mind and spirit if nothing else =)

Thanks, and peace profound!
-Edward Alexander


It told you that you are the source.

To be spiritual and mental developments, new problems should be faced.

Intelligent point you made is that your information could not be verified, "easily".

Racsouran
10-03-2008, 11:23 AM
I read this when you initially posted it and I have mulled over it quite a bit. One or two issues bother me.

Swearing is not a sure fire way to repeat a lifetime here. If it was somethiung as small as that there wouldnt be enough room on this planet. What is meant by not taking the lords name in vain primarily means to not use the lord when making an oath, or something of that nature. Like for instance, "as god is my witness", or "by god" and followed by whatever petty squabble you have going on at the time.

It is easy to call someone a peasant that is not privy to the whole picture. The difference between a peasant and an aristocrat is merely money, education and control. This person seems to like to keep those in their place. The arrogance and animosity are disturbing.

If we do not realize this is a prison and much worse, we have no hope of escaping? wtf? So if I can still see great beauty here, if I have been happy for the most part, loved lived and hopefully made others see some good outside of themselves as well as in, I am doomed for all eternity? wtf ever. :mad3:

I have my own theories as to the nationality of the writer but do not wish to offend anyone.

What happens with your perspective is that is one of satisfaction. Completely right as it is because it implies staying where you feel right to stay still, insider, arrogantly, forces us to seek higher satisfactions through making us feel guilty of having the gift of our true freedom, self-power, responsability, and doubt, casting on us punishments that are only valid under his narrow traditional perspective. He shouldnīt, so only people who feel really bad living here should try insiderīs perspective.

So what ends insider being as a being?: just a psiquical Vampire. Itīs not neutrality what that actitude represent.

He laughs at religions while he is preaching another one based on the same principles that any religion he presumes his "elite" to have created over time, has as an essence: rewards and punishment by obey or disobey, and a message inspiring a sea of fear and disempowerment, to say the least; how hippocryte it sounds, donīt you think?.

china2012
10-03-2008, 11:46 AM
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THE eXchanger
10-03-2008, 01:56 PM
What was it they called Lucifer in the Bible?.....Oh yea, The Deciever

the lucifer in the bible, was NOT lucifer ;)

it iS a very poor translation

that was an evil king, not Lucifer

to my knowledge,
neither side have found him...
at least NOT in the 4th world

something, perhaps worthy to ponder

doesn't bill ryan say
"the best place to hide iS out in the open"

the pure serpent energies,
and, the pure dragon energies,
when combined properly creates:

22+56=78 + 11 + 11 + 11 = 111 keys

in a 1-1-2008 (1-1-1 year)
The Year of The Trinity of New Beginnings
(there have been many 3 pillar days this year)
10-10-2008 (10/10/10--1-1-1)
10-19-2008 (10/10/10--1-1-1)
10-28-2008 (10-10/10=1-1-1)
which leads up to
11-11-2009 (11-11-11)
(here there will be another 3 x 11 given)
for a total of 144 keys
and, iS
12-12-2019 (12-12-12)

i am going to go to 9 serpent mounds
and, to the 900 carvings in the petroglyph rocks
from 10-3/2008 to 10-5/2008
leaving now, at 8;08 am

we are all created equal...
it iS, what it iS,
what it iS,
that you do, with ALL that you have,
this iS the only thing, that will shift you

the choice to be MORE, not less

iS yours

the reSult, is what is termed The Consequences

if you do NOT "love" your consequences,
then, start to alter, change, and, shift your choices,
the message, it iS quite clear

you are an i-goD
you are an e-goD
"i" interior
"e" eXterior

Someone, took "sacred" knowledge
and, dropped off the "d",
and, passed it out to you,
and, make you "take" a "word",
and, apply it, to anyone who stepped out of line

"ego" iS NOT to empower you,
but, to disempower you

for when MOST step out, to make a statement

most will say, that person, is in ego

when clearly, that person, or the person is NOT

e-GOD, is simply,
the exterior god
iS who comes out of you,
to eXchange, and, to meet, another

i-GOD, is simply,
the interior god
iS who you go to,
in your original spark,
to your miSSing CapStone,
to get, the energy,
to eXpress your E-GOD

NOW, you know,
why the capStone /
and, your capStone is miSSing !!!

ego, was perhaps, NOT a total truth,
you were feed -- just part of it,
and, look what mankind and womankind,
attached to it :(

i am off for 3 days, important business to do
anchoring energies, in canada :)

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger
(and, if project camelot, own our words -- please be sure to at least quote what we say) some of it, might have some real value :flowers2:

Book
10-03-2008, 02:00 PM
And on a random note, I pulled a tarot card while thinking about Insider. This is the image I got - King of Cups. Take it or leave it, up to you...

http://images.taroteca.multiply.com/image/12/photos/441/500x500/64/63-Minor-Cups-King.jpg?et=FUwg6X5OVwLM7XrGJxTYKQ&nmid=50294733
Zel,

I know nothing about Tarot. What does this card signify?

Go well,
Book

Realview
10-03-2008, 03:31 PM
Regarding where we are:

Concepts like "Time Travel" and movies like "The Matrix" help lead people to believe this world is not real and we are just living in a dream of sorts. For example if time travel where real and the world really exists then where are all the separate realities located? For every nanosecond or less the entire create would have to be duplicated. The soul would be undergoing it's pleasure or pain in perpetuity. A broken arm would be breaking forever. This violates conservation of energy, would be pointless and profoundly cruel. So the rational then becomes the world doesn't exist. This is entirely wrong. Time travel, where the spirit is animating matter for ever in the past or future is just plain illogical and therefore commonsense should say it is wrong. The world of matter does exist and we are living in the stream of thought that conveys to the spirit the general desire needing to be addressed in the near future. This stream of planned thought is what seers perceive as the future. Just as we do not take a single physical action without first thinking of it. The past is recorded like a DVD but can not be reanimated, entered into and altered.

By location, we are very near the bottom of the entire creation. We are located at the heart center of the Pind Division or Material/Spiritual division. Above Pind is Brahmand or Spiritual/Material division and above this is Sat Desh or the purely spiritual. The material regions are a rock polisher and we are the rocks. Our imperfections (original sins / primal karmas) are being worked off and we are fast approaching the time when cycling in material existences is of no value.

So far as the world being beautiful and the like, let me point out that there is a small amount of spirit here and this does provide a luster and beauty. But perception and enjoyment, pleasure/pain, are dissipation of the spirit. Catalysts (images and ideas) provoke desire which compel the soul to extend the spirit out into matter. This is natural here, and what the world is for, but, it is also known as sin. Drawing the spirit out means degrading the consciousness, dissipating it. When the spirit concentrates appropriately, by nature, it rises towards the plane of the creation with the corresponding percentage of spirit. Pleasure/pain is nothing but outward action and misdirection, misappropriation of energy.

The creation is not broken. There are layer upon layer of leaches and vampires preying upon the vitality of spirits incarnating here. This place, in reality, is very dark. If a mother did not buffer the pain of the spirits descent into this region by taking it upon her own body the child would not even be born with an integrated body/mind/spirit connection. The shock of descending here is that great.

eleni
10-03-2008, 05:50 PM
Me too MMeM- he is an Arab. Listen to his pineal gland activation. I can link the other threads to it if it is indeed the same *insider*. He is very different on the newer threads.

Edward- your experiences are congruent with Robert Monroe in a sense. Are you familiar with Monroe Institute ( I take it you are) . I spent time there and have been aware of the multiple dimensional existences since I was a young child.

Racsouran
10-03-2008, 07:17 PM
Regarding where we are:

Concepts like "Time Travel" and movies like "The Matrix" help lead people to believe this world is not real and we are just living in a dream of sorts. For example if time travel where real and the world really exists then where are all the separate realities located?


What it seems to be is that everything is here at the same time, in the same space, separated by frequencies of vibration, wich that means to change itīs like "tuning in" onto another "radio station" of shorts , dimensionally.

What lacks?, more knowledge about the nature of how things work, that simple.

Our body is tuned to work on such a way that we perceive things the way we do.

No need of movies or Matrixes to think about this reality being a dream. Since you have dreams that question came into place at least for me.

crowmirror
10-03-2008, 07:48 PM
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Racsouran
10-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Complicated because at a personal level we donīt have the energy necessary to do it, but i know that that energy can be activated inside us. How?, donīt know exactly. Maybe kundalini has something to do on that.

eleni
10-03-2008, 08:23 PM
I can and have tuned into other dimensions, frequencies etc; through various methods (Monroe training, Tantra, Chi gung, meditation, Ayahuasca, mushrooms, etc;).

crowmirror
10-03-2008, 09:20 PM
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Racsouran
10-03-2008, 09:24 PM
i would say that energy is there we just waste it on trivial things
eg. self importance, self pity, all of the ego related stuff.
so its simply a matter of managing your energy properly.
then you have "spare" energy to accomplish such things.

No, i donīt agree with that, there is something more than the energies you are talking of there, those are minor energies with nothing to do about this. From my perspective, you are blaming the wrong target. We are more than we are told.

crowmirror
10-03-2008, 09:26 PM
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Racsouran
10-03-2008, 09:30 PM
ok well good luck .

lol, im not saying you cannot try your idea, share in a new thread your experiences on that if something comes out, i will, but i keep trying so nothing is for sure.

crowmirror
10-03-2008, 09:35 PM
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Racsouran
10-03-2008, 09:36 PM
its been done..it is possible.
all the energys you need to accomplish such things you already have
to look anywhere else is a waste of time.

you cannot prove that you are completely right, thatīs the point. Nor that i am wrong or right in my intentions.

crowmirror
10-03-2008, 09:42 PM
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beegee
10-03-2008, 09:58 PM
Anyone have this file? I can't get dark-truth to load. Please PM if you have the file.

Thanks

FOUND IT AT: http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2008/09/bloodline-member-speaks-out.html

333mark333
10-03-2008, 10:29 PM
And someone asked me to rephrase what I was explaning in another way to clarify what I meant, and here is my response to that person:

Well I only retold what I was told by an astral Master, it was quite complex and hard to explain but I tried my best =)

But yeah, that's how I got it, there are alternate versions of ourselves in alternate (parallel) worlds/dimensions (whatever you want to call it). And each of them contain a soul-fragment, or astral body and various other energy bodies, which is connected to the "true" soul (or "higher soul"). I would say it goes a bit further up than our "higher self", as our "higher self" is basically being aware of the highest aspect of our current incarnation here and being our best in this single plane and do not neccessarly include the knowledge of these "other selves". And yes they are unique, and they consist of all time-frames, meaning past, present and future, in other words all earlier incarnations and future reincarnations is out there already enfolding their experiences and existence on their own, without general knowledge of the other selves and this fact (?) which all gradually develop towards the Oneness with the Higher Soul, or True Self - and once that is reached, all of these alternate versions of oneself will merge with ones Higher Soul and become th Oneness and progress towards further development, understanding and insights, as well as experiences on a higher level of existence. I guess you can say the "Higher Soul" is the "host", and all the alternate versions of ourselves down "here" (on the lower planes) are the "clients". Sort of like a tree, it has branches with many leaves, and at certain points such as winter the tree (host) will suck in all its resin so the leaves withers and falls of and dies, yet the tree itself stays alive. So, in that sense, you can compare your body here with that of a leaf of a tree, a leaf that is not aware of the tree it is connected to, and at a certain point the life force will be sucked out of the leaf (you) and back to the tree (higher soul) and become one again. But it do not sprout new leaves (bodies) but instead evolves to another state of being (The Higher Soul as Oneness).

Sorry if my explanation is not the best but it was quite complex and hard to put into words so I try use some metaphors to perhaps make it more understandable (?)

Best wishes,
Edward Alexander

Mr Alexander, that was well said. I resonate with you and your experience :)

izz
10-03-2008, 11:19 PM
[QUOTE=Maya;33279]


This message,
was written with "light encoding"
by the "he/or, the she" who wrote it

there are definitely "parts"
that are there, that a once/or twice over it

they might NOT immediately "jump out" at you

r

i read this as WAS WRITTEN WITH HERMETIC CODING then looked again and did nt see those words .. how weird ..

just googled hermetic coding .. and it is occult / free mason secrets in clues embedded in symbols

maybe it can be hidden in words too ..

munit
10-03-2008, 11:24 PM
Thanks for the Post i Found it very interesting, its like we are creating all these distractions/faults, politics, magazines, conspiracies, etc.. when what we really need to do is turn inward and find our way back to the one
thats what i got out of it
thanks again!!

PTTurboe
10-05-2008, 07:03 PM
Very interesting read and some really good and valid points...

ceranko
10-05-2008, 11:12 PM
I agree with much about what he said of brainwashing and control. I agree with just about everything he said on religion its all about controlling people and making money. I don't even give "God" A name. Its the universal mind controlling everything the energy of the universe we are all part of. If you do evil or think evil its negative, if you think positive and do positive it is positive. Positive people make things happen for themselves because they give off Phermones and positive mindset that attracts the same things. Negative thoughts and action and thinking leads to failure and negativity. That is what they attract. No one likes being around negative people unless they are negative. You make the world you live in. You sleep in the bed you made. You don't need a priest to talk to god. You have a direct link to the godhead in your soul, period. Want to talk to god. Think it. Say it out loud. Whatever. I do think that there are other entities out there like negative "Demons" and Angels. They are life forms we do not understand that live in other dimensional realms that can effect our minds and feed off our energy. They live in different places depending on their vibration. Imagine a lens. thats really thick and black at one end and extremely clear on the other. That is reality. If your negative your at the dark misty bottom, if your radiant in thought your at the bright top where its crystal clear bright and vibrant with energy and colors we cant comprehend. Angels I think help us and want us to return to the positive, Demons feed off our negativity and hate bringing us lower toward the dark. I see people every day that I have known my whole life that are negative-they hate the world, they are my relatives and they are in their 60's-70's. They have hated other people their whole life and have never changed. They have never grown up or expanded their consciousness. They will die hating and I can't do anything about it. But they have had 60-70 years to meet people have experiences and have never changed. I can't for the life of me understand that. How can you live your life and not grow and change the way you think about life? It took me years to break their programming. I don't live in the same city anymore and I'm better off for it. I hate going home for visits. Because they are like psychic vampires sucking the life out of me. Look at my huge house! look at what I drive! , democrats republicans immigrants Fox news 24 7 in every room of the house all day long ! ect ect why waste your energy on that BS?