14th October 2008

[Administrator]

Good shout on this area Kerry :original:

Will kick this off with a Channeling from Blossom

Channelled by Blossom Goodchild on 1st august
http://blossomgoodchild.blogspot.com/

Follow up here.
http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/index.html?page=BGoct14.html

You Tube links

Original
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eAThhjU5CRA

Another
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P8c0ppYYT6o
http://overunity.org.uk/forum/Themes/dilbermc/images/icons/modify_inline.gif
Confirmed by another:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=G4G4mFvM0OY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=G4G4mFvM0OY)

Collection of other Channels on this :

http://www.indianinthemachine.com/oct142008.html

Cheers

GateKeeper

[Jacqui D]

This is really interesting stuff, i was told that something was happening this year 2008 and feared because the months are flying past this is really good news great!!!!:thumb_yello:

[Kate]

Hmmm i have just listened to this chanelling...Interesting!....well, if this happens then that is very exciting indeed...bring on Oct 14th!

my initial thought was that it is likely there may be media and commuication 'blackout' on this day to try stop the publics response....and my other consideration is this 'channelling' might also be a black ops instigated posting to prepare people for the 'false flag' invasion? look forward to hearing other peeps views!

[Jamie]

OK, I am going to be abit negative here, so I am sorry in advance.

I have a massive problem with channelled messages, not that I don't believe that it is possible. I feel that at times people just seem to jump on the bandwagon, we seem to be putting far too much faith in channelled messages and alien assistance. Putting the TPTB aside for a second, we all know how much damage they have done, but we are not innocent to what is and has happened on this planet. The enviroment is up a creek without a paddle, amongst many other things.

We need to stop looking for outside sources to save our ass, because to be honest, what we will learn if the ET's come down and safe us?. We need to stand on our own two feet and sort all our own crap out, without the need to run to the great school teacher from outer space complaining that the school bully has knicked our lunch.

We have lived a life of dependence for far too long, and it's about time we grew up spiritually.

Jay

:lightsabre:

[Vicki]

I read about this a while ago - I shall be watching with interest! I do have one question though - WHY are these things always focussed on the USA? NO offence meant to anyone at all but the world is a much bigger place!

[Administrator]

This is really interesting stuff, i was told that something was happening this year 2008 and feared because the months are flying past this is really good news great!!!!:thumb_yello:

Hi Jacqui D

It is exciting stuff and would be great if it comes to fruitation.

Like all things you come across on your path while doing this life, take what fits and leave behind what does not.

If this does not occur on the 14th Oct as per the message, many people will scoff and attack the Channel, without realising that things can change, plans get changed. Because we and eveyone else, including the ET's have FreeWill that effects the future.

Gives alot of hope though and a date to look forward too with anticipation.

Cheers

GateKeeper

[Administrator]

Hmmm i have just listened to this chanelling...Interesting!....well, if this happens then that is very exciting indeed...bring on Oct 14th!

my initial thought was that it is likely there may be media and commuication 'blackout' on this day to try stop the publics response....and my other consideration is this 'channelling' might also be a black ops instigated posting to prepare people for the 'false flag' invasion? look forward to hearing other peeps views!

Good and valid points firehorse10

I look forward to others opinions as well.

[Administrator]

OK, I am going to be abit negative here, so I am sorry in advance.

I have a massive problem with channelled messages, not that I don't believe that it is possible. I feel that at times people just seem to jump on the bandwagon, we seem to be putting far too much faith in channelled messages and alien assistance. Putting the TPTB aside for a second, we all know how much damage they have done, but we are not innocent to what is and has happened on this planet. The enviroment is up a creek without a paddle, amongst many other things.

We need to stop looking for outside sources to save our ass, because to be honest, what we will learn if the ET's come down and safe us?. We need to stand on our own two feet and sort all our own crap out, without the need to run to the great school teacher from outer space complaining that the school bully has knicked our lunch.

We have lived a life of dependence for far too long, and it's about time we grew up spiritually.

Jay

:lightsabre:

Agree we are here to sort our own stuff out, and ET's know this as well.

But a small nudge such as Disclosure to show their is indeed life beyond our planet in my opinion would help progress that view.

It would throw alot of people into a confused situation where they would have to re-evaluate certain things in their life, as well as trust and faith they have had with current world leaders.

Interesting times ahead HOPEFULLY :biggrin2:

[DoctorWho]

A friend of mine has collected corrobotating information and also has given his thoughts. It's a long read, but it's worth it. Here's the link (http://atsdeck.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=277:on-october-14-2008-a-large-galactic-federation-craft-will-be-visible-for-a-minimum-of-three-days&catid=58:contactee-experienceset-messages&Itemid=90).
Bill "the Doctor"

[JoinTheFun]

The probability of something like it happening sooner than later can be greatly improved by us visualizing it, concentrating upon it.
As GK said, there's no fixed future, we co create it (or them, rather).
So let's speed it along, it will happen anyway and I for one would rather see it happen next month (or tomorrow!) than next year.
If only to cut off Dark Siders at the pass, hehe.

[Kate]

Dr Who, i have listened to the federation of light channelled msgs before..and they are claiming to be the pleiadians...but there is reference to them being the 'people that the ancient sumerians refer to'...but i am confused, as the drawings and history of the sumerians seem to refer to what can be known as annunaki..the lizard race etc...

can anyone add clarity on this? there is soo much contrasting info!
however, saying that..the words/message in these channellings are awesome!!

OOPS! sorery, i just re-listened to one of the channelled msgs and they ARE referring to the annanuki and what they have done in the history of man! my apologies....totally brilliant what is being said..and it resonates with me! seriously worth everyone listening to all the galactic federation msgs! it does give hope!

[Jacqui D]

Yeah the chanelling bit i am a bit sceptical about, i was a believer in mediumship until i worked the whole thing out.
But saying that i myself was given messages a few years back which greatly lifted my perception on the et scenario so i can't say for sure that all chanelling may be rubbish.
About the looking after the planet thing being our responsibility, well we were kind of seeded here in the first place wasn't we, stands to reason our ancestral elders would no doubt want to help their own surely.
Perhaps i have this all wrong but that's what i feel anyway.
I just know i have been waiting a long time for something like this to happen, whether it was built into my dna or put in to my conscience thought pattern i can not tell.
If it all turns out to be a big nothing i expect we will carry on as usual we will have to wait and see what happens.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, All:

In my personal opinion: the 14 October thing is a bunch of (almost certain) nonsense that came from one person, Blossom Goodchild (http://blossomgoodchild.blogspot.com), who channeled it and posted it on her blog.

It’s since been hyped all over the net and other channelers - appropriately front-loaded (meaning, already expecting this information and unconsciously agreeing with it) - have jumped in to say that their ‘sources’ agree with this also.

if this occurs, I’ll be staggered. I’m 99.9% sure that it’s incorrect, but well-intentioned. Unfortunately, a huge amount of channeled information - but not all! - falls into this category.

[fastarr]

How great will the day be when the whole world will cheer in unity. It is us who orchestrate our future. Each of us needs to choose love and quit waiting to be rescued.

[Adarajones]

Hi everyone,

I feel the same way as many of you!. I am certain that "IF" anything shows up on or around October 14th, it will be a MAN MADE craft. There is the possibility of a "FALSE FLAG", lets all remember that the secret government or the cabal, how ever you want to call them, might be using this as their last card!. Lets use our discernment before we jump to conclusions.

It has been said before that there will be no direct intervention by the aliens at this time due to our FREE WILL. If they intervene in any way and clean up our mess, WHAT DID WE LEARN?, nothing!.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents!

Blessings to all:roll1:

[DoctorWho]

From one Bill to another Bill, I think what needs to be kept in mind is what the majority of your interviews with Dan Burisch, David Wilcock, and many others, saying we are at a nexus point. This planet and solar system are entering a region of space with new properties. Whitley Strieber has mentioned a lot lately about energy come from the direction of Cygnus. If we are at a point where we are in control of "creating our future," what a better way of people people's mind to one thing, and that is we have massive worldwide first contact other worldly beings. I'm going to quote some stuff from my friend's website previously linked above where he puts things into perspective.
Bill "the Doctor"

Know that any - ANY unpleasant fallout from contact will not be from those attempting to make contact with us; it will be originating with those on the ground who are operating out of fear, or from those powers that are protecting their own interests (guess you could say they are also acting out of fear). If these beings wished us harm it should come as no surprise that they could effect it swiftly and effectively once and for all, and we wouldn't even know what hit us. This is something that seems to elude a lot of people.

The FOL folks advise (above) that this process has been in the planning stages for a long time. Does this surprise you? I think a lot of people are approaching this subject as if they plan to spontaneously show up and hope for the best. That's absurd. Do you really believe that an advanced collective of races is going to embark on such an unbelievably profound undertaking without so much as considering the consequences? Nope. So what we have is something a long time in the planning, and therefore, something that is without question going to take place.

This is something, it should be known, that probably occurs to every civilized race eventually.

It is along these lines that I wanted to comment on the Youtube video I posted above from MagentaPixie2012 and her statements about "belief" being solely responsible for bringing this event to manifest. There is a lot more going on here than a hope that a ufo will appear, to be sure.

Our beliefs are tied in with our consciousness; clearly, they are inseparable. And our consciousness, as are our bodies, are composed of energy; vibration. One cannot be at a level of consciousness that holds the reality of the creator "inside" oneself - that one is in fact a creator, or the reality of intelligent, advanced beings originating from a place or dimension outside of one's own without existing at a certain level of consciousness; vibration. Indeed, the acceptance of these things as real and true are a hallmark of a certain vibratory level; as is one's ability to not only consider contact with these beings, but also having a positive (read: fearless) mindset about such contact.

The October 14 event is, to me, not just an arbitrary hope for contact, but the existence of this announcement and real possibility are a reflection of where we are as a race, vibrationally; it's our consciousness level. Understand that this is not a one-off, and if it doesn't occur then that's it. We are at a place now where these things are going to manifest.

The FOL and the folks they are involved with are using their own graph, for lack of a better word, of where we are as a species effect these contact events. These beings have a far greater understanding of where were are as a species; of what our level of consciousness is. Would it be a surprise to know that these beings may know us better than we know ourselves?

The FOL talk about gauging our reaction to these messages (and, I'm sure, much more than that) to discern the best time and method of open, first contact. It should be obvious that our reaction to this message, and others like it, would also be combined with data from sightings, news stories, individual contact events, message board forums, and other information sources. Not to mention, there are ways to gauge where we are through means that we might not even comprehend.

I also wanted to mention again what MagentaPixie2012 said in her Youtube video, and that is that these motherships (larger craft) are already in our atmosphere in an alternate dimension/reality/timeline, and that our thoughts/beliefs/intentions are making them manifest on this timeline/dimension.

I wonder exactly how "removed" this timeline is from our own. Reason being, there have been many eyewitnesses who have seen these extremely large craft in our lower atmosphere, including credible witnesses such as police, pilots, politicians, and members of the military and scientific communities.

I have seen something that I believe was only part of an much larger craft that was, to some degree, cloaked. Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot as well, has reported on a video available at ProjectCamelot.org that she has also seen a large craft actually cloak itself.

So, to me, this is not a matter of a physically different "dimension," but a matter of our willingness to be open to what is actually the logical next step.

As far as I'm concerned, these large craft are not in a different physical reality (although, I admit this takes on a completely new meaning), but they are HERE, waiting for us to be ready for their appearance.

What is interesting to me, someone who has been on alert for about two years now, is that there seems to be (including the cloud images above, if I'm correct) a subtle acclimation to this reality being undertaken. This includes sightings, contacts, news stories, as well as abnormal or unusual natural phenomena (i.e, geophysical activity, flashing lights, sky phenomena, etc.), or what would be considered mundane (e.g. chemtrails, etc.). Michael, a contactee doing weekly audio interviews at HelloEarth.info, said that we wouldn't be seeing these huge craft near Saturn (and, I suspect, similar phenomena) if we weren't being indoctrinated into the larger reality that surrounds us.

In any event, we are another day closer. I know open first contact is imminent. And I am not alone in saying, "Get the hell here!". So every day is a day closer to that event. And when that day comes the world will change forever - for the better. It may be chaotic and confusing at first, but the universe is not going to wait for everyone to play catchup - it has a way of "catching you up."

http://www.atsdeck.com

[Pegasus_22]

How do we know this isn't the government sponsored fake alien invasion?

The NSA agents love to disguise as spiritual messengers for the new age.

I want to believe.

:)

[timedrifter]

Hi all, I think a wait and see attitude might be the best route for now, I want to believe it but I will not set myself up for disappointment either so my arms are folded for now on both sides, project blue beam is a big factor indeed, nothing wrong with healthy skepticism as well as wanting to believe.

[DoctorWho]

Hi all, I think a wait and see attitude might be the best route for now, I want to believe it but I will not set myself up for disappointment either so my arms are folded for now on both sides, project blue beam is a big factor indeed, nothing wrong with healthy skepticism as well as wanting to believe.

My boy, nice to see you finally arrive!
Bill "the Doctor"

[timedrifter]

Hey Dr. bill, you beat me here, good post up there, I agree anything negative is just that, when it comes to contact.

[John aka#404]

This puts in a nutshell how I think we should view this announcement and whatever may occur on or near this date...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8xJFHX_sw


* Observe and discern with our hearts

[JesterTerrestrial]

Well, I don't know anyone form the GFL and I'm not into channeling myself.

Its 38 days from today. I'm not waiting to see. I got stuff to do. If I used a calendar I would put a red x with a question mark next to it as it is a very exciting claim.

If this is the Truth then this will no doubt give the consciousness of most people a kick into high gear. It would open our minds to the fact that we the people of earth are a galactic neighbor in a massive milky way galaxy. We will then have some kind of proof where we will be able to shake our buddys, the ones who now think were all crazy and say I flippin told ya to wake up man. I TOLD YOU :)

Then our minds will focus on milky way sized dreams. Mind Blowing thoughts at first, especially for those who are "sleep living". We will all be thinking things such as... There are planets with life out there! There are beaches on shores of land on planets that orbit others stars! We will be able to look into earth as if we were standing on these planets.

We will expand our consciousness to see the planet for the beautiful little blue ball of life orbiting the sun in our solar system in this infinity Universe. The goal of this stage of the Mayan calender is the galactic consciousness. We are getting near the end of this the 5th night and it would be very fitting to have a 2000 mile long star ship show up. Just blow the lid right of the bottle of lies and ignorance many people are trapped into.

If this claim is lies...well I'm getting kind of used to them so no big deal. The Galactic age is here like it or not. Forward Motion - The truth shall prevail.

Peace Love and Eternal Groovieness
JT

[imaculate]

I have to commend JAy for his post ,We must take responsibility of our environment ourselves. Waiting for the aliens,God and who knows what else is a recipe for failure. One only needs to look at the evangelicals who believe in the
Rapture for this fatalistic View.
Carry on as usual the Rapture will fix it all for us !
No Jay is right it is past due date we take responsibility.
Today instead of taking responsibility America and the UK is sending it's garbage heap to Africa ,barge by barge.
there is a man made Island of plastic 500 miles off the California Cost.
The makers of plastics and the companies that use the plastics need to be held responsible here.
It is time the people gain the power in America and not the corporate whores that degrade the earth .

[Ellusion]

I'll be waiting and watching. Hopefully this isn't hogwash and we'll finally get out there that there is other life forms. Time to stop with the fear.




:)

[rockpicker]

Hi, All:

In my personal opinion: the 14 October thing is a bunch of (almost certain) nonsense that came from one person, Blossom Goodchild (http://blossomgoodchild.blogspot.com), who channeled it and posted it on her blog.

It’s since been hyped all over the net and other channelers - appropriately front-loaded (meaning, already expecting this information and unconsciously agreeing with it) - have jumped in to say that their ‘sources’ agree with this also.

if this occurs, I’ll be staggered. I’m 99.9% sure that it’s incorrect, but well-intentioned. Unfortunately, a huge amount of channeled information - but not all! - falls into this category.


Bill; First off, congrats to you and Kerry for the fine work you've been doing, and for the establishment of this new site.

I think if the Peaceship Gallactica appears on schedule, we'll all be staggered. I'm curious to hear why you doubt the genuiness of the message. Given the recent spate of ufo sightings worldwide, and the continued appearance of magnificently designed and inexplicably executed crop circles, coupled with Darth Cheney's apparent attempt to start WWlll, I should think an intervention by advanced, benign observers might have been expected. I just hope they aren't too late.

[hummingbird]

One thing is obvious to me... Contact is really heating up this year. January brought us Stephenville, TX and Kucinich's UFO question in the presidential debates. February brought us secret UN meetings. March brought us UK disclosure and ET endorsements from the Vatican. June brought us Jeff Peckman's debut on Letterman. July brought us Edgar Mithcel's publicity push. Now we have Oct 14th... This is all coming mainstream at an ever increasing speed.

Since the Oct 14th Story Broke I've discovered: www.paoweb.com
Does anyone know these folks? Are there other similar groups?

If we're seeded by ET's, then they're inevitably here among us. Have they been the inspiration behind some of our religions? Are we they and simply in a process of remembering? What is the link between contact with ETs and the spiritual development of humanity?

The other thing that is obvious to me is that we should collaborate to prepare for Oct 14. It will arrive some day, and when it does arrive who will people turn to? I felt, on September 11th, 2001, a great opportunity and I took some simples actions on that day that may have had ripples around the world. It may have helped shift politics from power of wealth to power of people. ...

The day of first contact will see change. The question is whether it will be peaceful or violent. I want to it to be peaceful, and I think we can make it that way by working together.

I have two questions:

What process can we walk people through to prepare them for contact? (Show them Disclosure Project, illuminati/shadow government reports, ...)

What offerings should we present on Oct 14 (or whichever day of contact) that will help those who are "lost" to find themselves and become part of the global movement towards peace and prosperity? (The Global Ecovillage Network comes to mind... )

[elias]

Dear All,

Well, in my opinion it is a possibility. I personally feel calmed down when I hear such messages, and fear fades away, and that's enough, isn't it? Even if it is the governments plan, which is very unlikely.

I have been listening for Bashar (http://www.bashar.org) and he has made some promises for ET visitations in the near future and if I recall correctly he has mentioned 2008 to be one of key years for increasing the awareness of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations. He says that by the year 2015 everyone will "know" that the ETs exist and are near our planet. He has also mentioned that the ones that will appear first will be the ones that are known as Phoenix Lights, seen over Phoenix around 1998 I suppose.
Also to mention that Bashar says that we are being prepared to join the Association of Worlds by the year 2037, which is comprised of 375 civilizations. It sounds exciting!

I hope that October 14th event is real, and this would have an incredible impact on the consciousness of the planet.


Love and Light
Elias

[Pithiny]

What I am concerned about is getting the news. Obviously the dark side will do everything they can to censor the news of such an event in the US, but if it's as announced then it should get to us anyway.

The announcement also stated "Alabama" and "southern hemisphere" but this was clarified later as to mean where Alabama used to be prior to an earlier pole shift. I wonder if there are any web sites that show a comparison so we could narrow down the area.

[Jasper]

I agree with Jay. Heaven helps those that help themselves.

So, they are going to park themselves over Alabama. Maybe they made a mistake and meant Obama.

Anyway, how come the USA always get the action.....just like in the films. Don't be surprised if Will Smith and Bruce Willis beam down.

Oh, I know why they aren't showing over the UK, they wouldn't have enough money to pay the parking meter, and we wouldn't see them anyway because of the constant cloud.

[Colin]

Hi, All:

In my personal opinion: the 14 October thing is a bunch of (almost certain) nonsense that came from one person, Blossom Goodchild (http://blossomgoodchild.blogspot.com), who channeled it and posted it on her blog.

It’s since been hyped all over the net and other channelers - appropriately front-loaded (meaning, already expecting this information and unconsciously agreeing with it) - have jumped in to say that their ‘sources’ agree with this also.

if this occurs, I’ll be staggered. I’m 99.9% sure that it’s incorrect, but well-intentioned. Unfortunately, a huge amount of channeled information - but not all! - falls into this category.

I'm with Bill on this one:thumb_yello:

Does anyone remember this predicted MAJOR visitation that surprisingly never came to fruition..?

"Jan Val Ellam, a Brazilian prominent author as lecturer about Ufology and Spirituality, says that several ET races are coming to Earth for an official and open contact with the human race. The meeting should take place anytime from November 16, 2006 to April 30, 2007"

..or the predicted global devastation that would be caused by the predicted close fly-by of asteroid TU24 earlier this year?

I agree that UFO's sightings worldwide, are going through the roof! Infact, I'm currently investigating the sighting of a very large (as in as big as a 747) and detailed craft witnessed by my daughters partner and a work colleague at 10.30pm GMT last Friday.

Now I regarded him as the biggest skeptic on the planet, till he had this sighting. His work colleague, who was drving at the time, was so shaken by the event he had to pull off the road to compose himself & stop shaking!:shocked:

If/when ET decide to disclose their existance to the world I believe it wont be pre-planned, no date/time/location, just a mass syncronised appearance worldwide that will dispel beyond a shadow of doubt, that we are indeed not alone

Again, I'd like to stress, this is just my personal opinion:biggrin2:

[Sanat]

In addition to discernment I use Dr. David R. Hawkins (http://consciousnessproject.org/bio.asp) method of muscle calibration (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=15). I have great experience using this method for some years now. His famous "Map of Consciousness" (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=14) is from 1-1000. Anything below 200 is considered without integrity/false.

The 14. October event calibrates as true. In fact it calibrates above 540 which is the level of Uncondtitional Love. There is a 99.9% probability that it will go down on that day as planned. Anyone familiar with Bashar knows that probabilities are only a sensing of how things seem at the time of the calibration. That is why I will continue to calibrate the probability for this event occuring on the planned date untill we reach that date. I will post here if anything changes, allthough we will probably hear it from other source first...

Here is a list of channelers that do have integrity:

Sheldon Nidles updates (http://www.paoweb.com/updates.htm): Calibrates in general above 500.

Matthews Messages (http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm): Calibrates in the mid 400s.

Mike Quinsey channeled messages (http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm): Calibrates in general above 500.

It's worth mentioning that the channeled messages calibrates significantly higher than the channeler him/herself. The ET's will not learn our lessons for us. But this is simply a demonstration and a huge wake up call for the sleeping masses. It's a sign that things are about to take a major turn. After this it will be much harder to go back to sleep again for people. Those that don't know will finally start to turn to those that do. An event of that magnitude cannot be ignored very easily.

[1love]

i don't mean to be condescending in any way but thru my understanding of channeling i believe that there are three scenarios of what might occur during such a episode. this i have learned through the children of the law of one.
1) Someone channeling an actual disincarnate being;
2) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from the Inner Being;
3) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from their subconscious mind or the ego;
4) Someone totally faking it.

Also, if an disincarnate being is actually channelled whether or not this being is of a enlightened consciousness also has to be taken into account. Because most enlightened beings do not believe in possession and channelling is simply possessing another's body. So in essence, deciphering channelled information is very speculative.

[Antaletriangle]

It's definitely a gutsy exclamation of a precise time-a theory of mine is october 14th is a full moon,lasts for 3 days and is 2,000+miles in diameter,well in some circles there are understandings that the moon is an ancient reptilian ship parked in orbit and can move under it's own power-wild stuff i know.Could this ship that's referred to be a full moon?-Dunno, i also remember that the ship is called 'Alabama' not the state where it will park in geo stat. orbit.United states also sits in the northern hemisphere.I understand pole shifts to be magnetic shifts not crustal shifts-i have measured and known magnetic poles to move 1,000's of miles in 6 hours in the geological column and geological past.They are a natural oscillation of Gaia.

[Warzone]

This is channeled stuff. The gurus keep blurping out this kind of stuff. IMO they're just pulling it out of their hats.

[Anti-Ignorance]

There is work to be done here. Whether the event will actually happen or not, this is a good opportunity to spread a positive message in these tough times. So many are still sleeping and only see the world through the matrix. They will fear the unknown. I believe this news should be spread, not because of the possibility of first contact, but because so many can't fathom that an alien race would come to help us. They automatically think of attack and enslavement, and officials will fuel and feed on that fear. One important message to keep spreading is to help people get away from that fear of the unknown... to teach them that the "unknown" is not so unknown once you start learning... that there are billions of entities out there who love us and are waiting for us to evolve and shed our destructive ways.

I am fighting the battle on the fore-front, attempting to wake others up, and it still amazes me the number of individuals who have never even thought of it that way. I just want to make a small reminder here for everyone to continue to do their part saving the world... it's as easy as just talking to someone or giving them informaiton. Soooo many are still lost out there and don't even know the fundamental basics of the truth, much less have the understanding that much of you all do.

Personally, this October 14th thing has me a little excited, and has personally restored a little balance in my life as I was digging into the neo-con push for war for a little too long. I hope it happens as I have always beleived that if done correctly, it would unite the world and end wars in the long run. I'll be in Vegas on a business conference that day, but I won't forget...

Something that seems a little strange to me though, is I'm not so sure about the 2,000 mile diameter thing, especially after saying "Alabama"... A 2,000 mile diameter would take up most of this country, much less a single state... It would be nightfall for three straight days for a lot of people...

[Kahunamahalo]

i don't mean to be condescending in any way but thru my understanding of channeling i believe that there are three scenarios of what might occur during such a episode. this i have learned through the children of the law of one.
1) Someone channeling an actual disincarnate being;
2) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from the Inner Being;
3) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from their subconscious mind or the ego;
4) Someone totally faking it.

Also, if an disincarnate being is actually channelled whether or not this being is of a enlightened consciousness also has to be taken into account. Because most enlightened beings do not believe in possession and channelling is simply possessing another's body. So in essence, deciphering channelled information is very speculative.


#4

[morem]

Well is nice of them to warn us and all. But I don't need a visual thank you very much, to know that life exist beyond this planet. To those of you who wait with camara's pointing. Good Luck!

[Andre]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan View Post
Hi, All:

In my personal opinion: the 14 October thing is a bunch of (almost certain) nonsense that came from one person, Blossom Goodchild, who channeled it and posted it on her blog.

It’s since been hyped all over the net and other channelers - appropriately front-loaded (meaning, already expecting this information and unconsciously agreeing with it) - have jumped in to say that their ‘sources’ agree with this also.

if this occurs, I’ll be staggered. I’m 99.9% sure that it’s incorrect, but well-intentioned. Unfortunately, a huge amount of channeled information - but not all! - falls into this category.

First of all, I am very weary of anyone proposing to be a direct voice channelling medium. But I guess, we wont know the true answers till October 14th.

[Sanat]

One important thing we can say about Matthews messages (http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm) and Mike Quinsey's (http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm) channeled messages is that they have never given such a specific "promise" before to my knowledge. They have never given a specific date just a few weeks in the future with a very specific and spectacular event attached to it. This is not to be taken lightly because a lot of people would be disappointed/angry if this turns out to be BS. Perhaps other "gurus" (as some here choose to call the messangers) have given false predictions before, but these have not to the best of my knowledge. Why risk to loose credibility by jumping on this bandwagon at all?

Anyone familiar with Matthew knows that he is very cautious to give anything too specific about "the future" because nothing is written in stone. It is a very unusual thing that he (and Quinsey messages) back up a specific date so close in this manner. Yes, they both say that there might be changes in the plan due to certain factors. And this can be percieved as "holding the backdoor open" or it can be seen as "just the way things are in real life". It does not change the fact that credibility is on the line in a big way here. Why would someone that is usually very cautious in such manners suddenly risk it all on "one bet" if they were not very certain it would go down as planned?

Ps. check out video of Bashar if skeptical about channeling. I don't see how one could fake what Darryl Anka is doing. He has even been hooked up to measuring equipment which showed what the doctor/scientist described as "seemingly two consciousnesses flowing through the brain at the same time".

[Avid]

I am indeed skeptical concerning this now, the video response here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8xJFHX_sw) seems to be good advice. Thank you for that post earlier.
I'll have the tin foil handy then!:lightsabre:
The stress levels in some of these threads is not a good sign - we are here to think positively.
Chill out folks:)

[THE eXchanger]

why just 14 oct 2008 ...
they appear on everyday of every year ???

just GO OUT and, look for them :)

:mfr_omg:

they are already there

[Sanat]

The Galactic Fed. would never allow Project Blue beam to happen as this would be a gross misrepresentation of them and thus directly effect them and how humanity view them. There are but a few years left to the deadline now. Such a set back would never be allowed just like atomic war will not be allowed. This is also confirmed by Matthew and other sources.

It seems like many people are afraid of "getting their hopes up" and would rather remian skeptical to "avoid disappointment". That is ok if you feel that it serves you. Things have been so bad here for so long - for so many lifetimes - that there is an ingrained tendency to not believe that Good actually can and will happen. That we really deserve Good. Morbid curiosity is also a factor in this equation.

What info that resonnates with you depends on your level of consciousness. All rungs are needed on the ladder in order for everyone to have somebody above to pull them upwards. People that have ridden themselves of their personal past/future, and thus are totally present in the eternal "now" will see "what is going on" before people who still struggle with their personal karma. Everything arises from the same Source at the same time all over the planet and the universe as such. People with a silent mind can sense the subtle "signs/signals" a while before people with a more noisy mind. They will be a bit more "in sync/tune" with what is happening. The "dire predicitions" came down the ladder from such people WHEN they could be sensed in the continuum, IF things would have continued in that track. However, that track has been transcended, and now something else is coming down the ladder big time. Soon it will be obvious for all to see that this new reality is nothing to fear. We deserve nothing but Good and this is what we will get when the old crumbles away to make way for the New. The 14. october event is a huge neon signpost that will make the New an undeniable reality for a much larger number of humanity.

[Phoenix]

i don't mean to be condescending in any way but thru my understanding of channeling i believe that there are three scenarios of what might occur during such a episode. this i have learned through the children of the law of one.
1) Someone channeling an actual disincarnate being;
2) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from the Inner Being;
3) Someone believing they are actually channeling a disincarnate being, but
they are actually channeling information from their subconscious mind or the ego;
4) Someone totally faking it.


5) Someone channeling a lower energy pretending to be someone else. Most Mediums do this.

I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it.

[Sanat]

5) Someone channeling a lower energy pretending to be someone else. Most Mediums do this.

I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it.

You forgot the 6th alternative: Someone channeling an alien being.

Why not keep an open mind instead of being biased? I am happy if it happens, and I am happy if it does not. My happiness does not depend on anything external, and thus my discernment is not compromised.

[Phoenix]

You forgot the 6th alternative: Someone channeling an alien being.

Why not keep an open mind instead of being biased?

Thats pretty much covered by No.1.
Everyone is biased, everyone has their own agenda. My bias? I am a Channel, I have first hand experience. :yikes:

[viking]

I think I might have put this on the wrong thread....

Sorry anyway here you go...

To those of you that want this to happen read on..




CHANGE THE WORLD!

"DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD SHOW UP!"

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'Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message which matters !

Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and experience happiness.

These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.

Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny. Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.

It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as a ballot!


Who are we ?

Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one's beliefs, however respectable they may be.

A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilisation is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.

What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as well as the best.

Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some name "extra-terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.

There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organised structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you.

Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic Brotherhood.

Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us humanoid-shaped.

Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive it yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like you. You fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure instruments most of the time.

We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this message, you become the decision-makers ! You personally.

We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision.


Why aren't we visible ?

At certain stages of evolution, cosmic "humanities” discover new forms of science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured dematerialisation and materialisation are part of them. This is what your humanity has reached in a few laboratories, in close collaboration with other "extra-terrestrial" creatures at the cost of hazardous compromises that remain purposedly hidden from you by some of your representatives.

Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by your scientific community, that you call 'UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.

Many human beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with such ships, some of which are under occult powers that "govern" you. The scarcity of your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided by the dematerialised state of these ships.

By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their existence. We fully understand this.

The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so as to touch the soul and not to modify any organised system. This is deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different reasons and results.

For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.

For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind's entrance into the family of galactic civilisations is greatly expected.

We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency of the situation did not justify it. Many of those who study our appearances count the lights in the night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects when it is all about conscious beings.


Who are you ?

You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have been mutually enriched by each others' contributions. The same applies to the races at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the respect of these roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of your subtle nature. For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.

You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it for its richness and beauty. Understanding the conscience of shape makes us love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists in becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity.

To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would reflect the image of what you are in reality.


What is your situation ?

Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little incidence on your capacity to make collective and individual decisions about your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep psychological mechanisms.

We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the numerous, brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially maintained for the profit of a growing centralising power.

Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions. But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly but surely losing your extraordinary capacity to make life desirable. Your resilience will artificially decrease, independently of your own will. Such technologies exist that affect your body as well as your mind. Such plans are on their way.

This can change as long as you keep this creative power in you, even if it cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords. This is the reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish should a collective reaction of great magnitude not happen. The period to come is that of rupture, whichever it may be.

But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions ? Should you anticipate or undergo pain ?

Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were often conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others. Earth has now become a village where everyone knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in duration and intensity.

Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for the biggest majority of you for reasons that are essentially geopolitical.

There are several billion of you. The education of your children and your living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals and much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your political, financial, military and religious representatives.

Your thoughts and beliefs are modelled after partisan interests to turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality.

But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror. Biasing information is a millenary strategy for human beings. Inducting thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc technologies is an even older a strategy.

Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdual and destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you can only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of natural resources is programmed whereas no long-term collective project has been launched.

Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources which entry price will rise day after day - will bring about fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides.

Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.

Human behaviours, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end. You entrust these problems to representatives, whose conscience of common well-being slowly fades away in front of corporatist interests, with those difficulties. They are always debating on the form but rarely on the content.

Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when you have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more than ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly impact your survival of tomorrow.

What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any civilisation ? Where will a collective and unifying awareness come from, that will stop this blind rushing ahead ?

Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred.

A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very positive but also very negative aspects.


Who are the "third party" ?

There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another civilisation: via its standing representatives or directly with individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second way brings awareness.

The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human emotional energy.

The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision.

That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose it now to ... you!

Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of those centralising powers without them being neither suspected nor accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are fighting this danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to recognize the truth !

How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is so much manipulated ? What are you really free of ?

Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with civilisations other than yours.

That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate mistrust and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature.

This message would be of no interest if these manipulators' tutorate did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not materialise in a few years from now. Their deadlines are close and mankind will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles.

To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you need at least to have enough information that leads to the solution.

As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the ally. At your current state of psychism, it is extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come.

Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you to an alternative.


What can we offer ?

We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life, constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradiction of suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness.

We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.


What would we receive ?

Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The feeling of Joy is strongly sought in the universe for its energy is divine.


What is the question we ask you ?

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"


How to can you answer this question ?

The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly ask yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the middle of a desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself but thinking about the message.

This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the way. This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is recommended that you answer right after another reading of this message.

Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are ! The problems that you may have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel the force that springs up in you. You are in control of yourselves !

A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near future, in one way as in another.

Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential to us.

Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your own will will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to.

In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will determine the future.


What is the lever effect ?

This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even though it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this message, in all envisageable fashions, in as many languages as possible, to those around you, whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of the future.

Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more comfortable but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised your free will.

Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that can be asked to you.
Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well as your responsibility !

Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a show, this is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !

Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number.

Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so much inertia and hurdles ! You can ease the mankind's birth to Brotherhood.

One of your thinkers once said: “Give me a hand-hold and I'll raise the Earth".

Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we will be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to ... raise the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.

What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?

For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favourable decision would be the materialisation of many ships, in your sky and on Earth.

For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many certitudes and beliefs.

A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The organisation of your societies would be deeply upheaved for ever, in all fields of activity. Power would become individual because you would see for yourself that we are living. Concretely, you would change the scale of your values !

The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single family in front of this "unknown" we would represent !

Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would indirectly force the undesirable ones, those we name the "third party", to show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and share the same roots: Mankind !

Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who is fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an inner light.

This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive.

Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings, collaboration in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of parts of the galaxy.

Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide by yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your external and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We would leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do.

Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world, several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our "great appearance", if such is the decision made by the majority of those who will have used their capacity to choose, and if this message receives the necessary support.

The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely simple :

we are technically equipped to materialise!


Why such a historical dilemma ?

We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale.

How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of existence ! If we are not there yet, it is because you have not made such a decision explicitely.

Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer you what you haven't got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you ?

How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn't the terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example ?

Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Whatever your choice, it would be respectable and respected ! In the absence of human representatives who could potentially seduce into error you ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your consent.

In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the Pandora's box that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever your decision may be you will have to get out of it.

In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your thinkers say ? That is the real question!

After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable: choosing between two unknowns.

Why spread such a message among yourselves ?

Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of milleniums, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive.

Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people's choice. Not informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one's expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one's free will.

It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.

It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe.

Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural shock in today's mankind's history. It will then be too late to regret about not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it ! And decide !

The big medias will not be necessarely interested in spreading this message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.

You are still the architects of your own fate...'

"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"



viking

[JesterTerrestrial]

I posted something similar here...MagentaPixie2012 posted a video September 04, 2008 on her youtube channel talking about the original (light ship) message via channeling with the collective consciousness of nine.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1334

[Average Joe]

The aliens must be really thick if they think Alabama is in the Southern Hemisphere.

But oh no, what they meant was that Alabama was in the Southern hemisphere before the last pole shift or whatever.

Maybe it was, but it simply is not relevant today, or has any bearing on whether they show up or not.

Lets face it, it won't happen, its all a load of rubbish.

[Sanat]

Thats pretty much covered by No.1.
Everyone is biased, everyone has their own agenda. My bias? I am a Channel, I have first hand experience. :yikes:

Everyone is a channel also... The bias I was referring to was this: "I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it."

I am not, and I doubt that most people are; "a follower of Ms Blossom". But I am not biased towards this issue based on past experience neither. Everything is new and unique and my trust is not diminished by "false prediction" from other sources in the past or whatever. I simply ponder things in my heart and see if it feels right or not. This is not based on anything from the past, but on pure intuition. We will wait and see. No need to take anything on advance. That is all I say. No need to accuse people for being "liers/false prophets etc." based on the fact that others in the past might fit that description. Let's give this a fair chance at least is my opinion.

[coronetrt101]

Based on the Law of Attraction... if enough people desire this event to happen then it will because of the group consciousness.

My position is if it happens it would be wonderful and if it doesnt then its no sweat off my nose...

[ForsakenFalcon]

I won't hold My breath for it but if it does come to pass I'ma be smirking at majority of the masses all day or prehaps I simplely won't stop Smirking.

[Phoenix]

Everyone is a channel also... The bias I was referring to was this: "I hope that when this event fails to occur, Ms Blossom and her followers will disappear though I somehow doubt it."

Sorry, I mis-read that!
It is a fair point but everyone has bias and IMO, this event will not happen, I would love it if it did but as the info is all "channeled" I won't be changing my plans for the 14th!

[King Lear]

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=18444&postcount=15

[eris]

i'm envisioning this one :snog:

:flowers2:

:gathering:

[jaby]

Based on the Law of Attraction... if enough people desire this event to happen then it will because of the group consciousness.

My position is if it happens it would be wonderful and if it doesnt then its no sweat off my nose...

I agree....there may be a critcal mass thingy.
Like the 'hundreth monkey'.

Also, your second statement....yes, because this will be a
World Contact Day what-ever happens.

Link....Carpenters...Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB51ehx1q9w

Enjoy...it's a goody.

[elias]

Hi everyone!

There was a good discussion going on about the October 14th event, which has been deleted by the moderators I suppose, but this event seems to be something more that a fake message.

We all know here that these ETs DO EXIST, otherwise, we would not be here at all, AND we know that we are going through changes in consciousness and the ETs are helping us.

The ETs are going to show up sooner or later, this is a fact. But the reason many are resisting this idea, as Bashar has told us is the fact that there is a deep fear inside us facing this truth, because of knowing more of what we are. It is difficult for us to handle the high energy of these beings, and that is why most of the people reject this event. There is a good thread on Energetic Forum, which I recommend everyone taking a look on it:

http://www.energeticforum.com/psychic-paranormal/2663-where-will-you-october-14-a.html

:original:
Elias

[Sanat]

Yea, it was a great discussion on several threads! I suggest we try to keep the discussion on this thread from now on. If this event is not something that is "allowed" to discuss on this forum I will take my hat and leave. Let's hope the good posts from previous threads will be retrieved so we can copy/paste them in here...

Ok, enough about that. What is important to know about the 14 october event is that when such a date is seeded into the mass consciousness and it resonnates with such an amount of integrious people all over the world in such a short time, then one should really try to understand what it is about instead of brushing it off as a "hoax/fake" at once.

Just like 2012 is not about a specific date as such, this is similar. However, the date of 21/12/2012 is still important as a focal point for mass consciousness. Same goes for 14. October 2008. Having such a focal point is a tremendous help when it comes to "manifestation". It allows a huge amount of evolved people to coordinate their vision of the future and thus "create/attract" a desirable event together. This is why evolved beings that don't want to "believe" in this should at least simply keep an open mind about it and not dismiss it up front alltogether. No one is hurt by keeping an open mind, but many are hurt by closed minds and dismissal. We cannot let the fact that "hoaxes" exist, make us dismiss everything up front. This way we close our self up to be "protected", and the dark has won.

I have no personal "hopes" attached to this event. I am happy no matter what happens. However, I most definitely will participate in this fun/thrilling manifestation experiment that is called the "14. october event" and I will continue to speak about it as if it is "set in stone" to happen while still being open to the fact that it might not happen on that exact date. The very fact that we have been given such a focal point in linear time is evidence that it is close to manifestation.

One thing that "ticks people off" is that they think it is about the "ETs coming to save us". I say; Good that this has sunk in at least. That the ETs cannot save a single soul. People misunderstand the "spiritual battle" for a battle of phyiscal survival and for physicality. Yes, the physical is important. But it is simpy a mirror of our mass consciousness. No ET can evolve for you. However, their high level of Light/Love/Presence/vibration and their massive numbers surrounding the Planet is forcing the overall vibration upwards. The energies from the center of our Galaxy, the Sun and Earth herself also participate in this. Best thing you can do to "help" is simply to allow all your dirt/darkness to surface and be processed out of the system in a responsible manner. Let go of the old rubbish and grow into the New/Now. Those who refuse this will lag behind. There is always free will.

If we are the "ground crew", then we are in the front line in this process. No one said it would be easy, but I think we all agreed at some point that it would be worth it!:thumb_yello:

[viking]

Very strange...I don't understand why the thread was taken off...I personally will be focusing all my attention on this event and will be wishing/praying that it will happen..

However if it does not happen then there will be a next time.. and that time will certainly come within our lifetimes.....

Its a question of when not if!! ............

viking

[Sanat]

Yes, that is it, Viking. It has already happened in the continuum. It cannot "not happen" as such. hehe. It can only be somewhat postponed due to many factors. The "timeline" already exists, but the timing is not set in stone. However, I do not think we would be given such a specific date if it was not very close to manifesting. Chaos is about to be unleased upon the world as the old crumbles into ashes, and like a phoenix bird the New will rise from it.

This event will help to flip this seemingly messy situation into something positive as it will open the minds of a lot of slumbering people. It will also seriously disturb the ones that are totally asleep. The timing could not have been better! Things are about to be seriously turned upside down and it will perhaps take some time for things to fall into right place again. But at least when that happens things WILL BE in their right place and not upside down as they used to be...

[elias]

Thanks for the responses.

I think that there were several threads started about this event and the moderators had good intentions for doing this. I am very excited about this event, if it happens it is going to be a total shock to our world, and many people are going to start "asking" questions! What was that? Where are they from? How advanced is their technology? What is their purpose? What are we doing here on Earth? Which would result in more "answers". And eventually the negative "plans" of the power elite may all be messed up. The evidence has been overwhelmingly high. But most of all, the excitement is what I am fond of!

Elias

[Colin]

There was a good discussion going on about the October 14th event, which has been deleted by the moderators I suppose

Hi guys

First let me stress that no threads have been deleted!

Over the past few weeks the growth of Project Avalon has been phenomenal, and, as a result we've had numerous threads duplicated, posted in the wrong section or just not relevant to the Project Avalon mission which is, and I'll quote Kerry on this:

Project Avalon needs to be about GROUND CREW MATTERS to do with building communities, safe places and making connections for the same.To facilitate this the forum was taken offline for some 30 hours to enable anything that may not be relevant to the Project Avalon mission to be moved [not deleted] to holding area for review, then put back online in it's trimmed down form that you see now.

Time is of the essence in getting the message out to the groundcrew. Therefore the actions of the moderators may now seem ruthless, or harsh when we close threads that do not directly relate to Avalon..it's not.

We need to ensure that the groundcrew can access relevant information quickly without having to wade through numerous posts.

All threads in the Holding Area will be reviewed by the Moderating Team [who are ALL part time & unpaid] and if found relevant to Project Avalon will be moved back in. However, we have over 450 threads to review as quickly & accurately as possible, so please bear with us guys.

I'd like to take this opportunety to apologise on behalf of the Moderating Team in the event any member feels their thread was moved unjustly. That was not our intention. The clock is ticking..

rgds
Colin

[viking]

Ok Colin that's fair enough ..... but I do believe we should be more positive about this date... It could be the most important day of our lives !! so lets give it all... at least we tried...lets not be negative and say 'ahhh thats not going to happen' ect ect ...

FOR GOODNESS SAKE THIS BUS COMES ROUND ONLY ONCE IN A LIFETIME PERHAPS!!!

DON'T MISS THE RIDE.:original:

viking

[Colin]

Viking:

Have you listened to the new George Green (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3207) interview?

It's sobering stuff..:sad:

[viking]

Yes I listened to it this morning .... ( I check for updates daily )

Yes very sobering...and as much as I respect/admire George Green I do think sometimes he can be a little negative and often predicts doom and gloom a little too much... I know its good for us too know what might happen so we are prepared for these events...but we must not poison our thoughts with such negativity.

However I also believe we can change certain things if we want it enough...we all know about the Universal Law of Attraction etc etc.. so why can't we all get together and change things for the positive..yes I know George has said we have gone too far for change and that there are not enough Ground Crew to change this time line....but I also believe that we should never give up hope and to keep focused on good things rather than what might happen!!


viking

[SkyWatcher]

Great idea Viking;
I also listened to George Green. Made me want to grab the kids, lock the door and hide under the bed (except for the fact that we live outside Chicago and will probably be nuked).
I am looking for that lining of silver in the clouds, because I can't afford to go purchase gold or silver at the store.
Any positive, good news is helpful and hopeful.

Peeking out from under the bed.
Nancy
:yikes:

[Sanat]

"I also listened to George Green. Made me want to grab the kids, lock the door and hide under the bed (except for the fact that we live outside Chicago and will probably be nuked)."

Take that feeling and compare it to how you feel when you read this:
http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled%20messages/September2008/09.24.08SaLuSa.htm

Another confirmation of the 14 october event in this message:

This particular period of time is drawing many Beings to Earth, who desire to help you overcome the many obstacles across your path. Rigid belief systems are a major difficulty to overcome, and it is so essential that you allow for other beliefs to expand your understanding. If not, many revelations that are about to enter your consciousness will be missed opportunities to break out of the conditioning that has held you back. Soon for example, there will be irrefutable proof that you are not alone in this Universe. Extraterrestrial craft are no strangers to your Earth, and contact with them is quite normal. What will be different is that the event of the 14th October sighting will happen in such a way that it will be undeniable, and open the door to First Contact.

If the dark was allowed to use nukes and other weapons of that caliber and worse humanity would be doomed as they would much rather destroy everything than to give up their power... The ETs can intervene to prevent this so don't worry.

If the dark has a plan don't you think the Light has a much better plan? I mean what kind of Light would it be if it did not have a better and more functiounal plan than the dark? Bud light?:smoke: Trust that a lot of things are taking care of themselves. We on this forum are not the only people working for the Light. A lot of good is happening behind the scenes righ now as the Light is penetrating ever deeper into the dark chambers. The dark cabal is in it's final death throes right now. The new is about to emerge as soon as the dark/old collapses. See it this way: The old was working perfectly for the dark...it would have no reason to collapse were it not for the New breaking through it from the inside.

[Zenbuoy]

Hi guys



I'd like to take this opportunety to apologise on behalf of the Moderating Team in the event any member feels their thread was moved unjustly. That was not our intention. The clock is ticking..

rgds
Colin


I'd like to take this opportunity to THANK YOU and your team members for your work.

All of you guys are impressive! :groupwave:

[ADAM KADMON]

Hey guys;

I've looked into my "heart" regarding this matter... and I honestly feel the Oct 14th announcement is going to be a HUGE misdirection.

Remember 9/11? At the same time some Trillion dollars went missings. Of course, that was on the second page, and no one really cares because of the big burning towers.

Now imagine an "Alien Ship" that flies over the word, and then everyone catches the Avian Flu. All the sudden, we're UNDER ATTACK via micro-organisms. Be it a terrorist attack, or an "Alien Attack" it's going to happen at the same time we pass a bill that bankrupts America's economy.

These are THE SAME tricks they used for 9/11 except on a bigger scale. Learn from the past guys. Do no lose hope, but do not be blinded by the lights either...

Adam K.

[elias]

I agree with you Sanat!
No fear, even if they plan to use nuclear weapons, we are protected. We must ask and then we shall receive. We need this event to happen guys so be optimistic, we will not lose anything if it doesn't happen, because we have gained something already and it is named HOPE, and that is enough isn't it? HOPE is energy and that will shift our reality to a better one, so plz don't criticize it and let time tell if this is going to happen or not, and don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen because eventually it should happen.

Much Love and Gratitude ....

[evollove]

People misunderstand the "spiritual battle" for a battle of phyiscal survival and for physicality. Yes, the physical is important. But it is simpy a mirror of our mass consciousness. No ET can evolve for you. However, their high level of Light/Love/Presence/vibration and their massive numbers surrounding the Planet is forcing the overall vibration upwards. The energies from the center of our Galaxy, the Sun and Earth herself also participate in this. Best thing you can do to "help" is simply to allow all your dirt/darkness to surface and be processed out of the system in a responsible manner. Let go of the old rubbish and grow into the New/Now. Those who refuse this will lag behind. There is always free will.

If we are the "ground crew", then we are in the front line in this process. No one said it would be easy, but I think we all agreed at some point that it would be worth it!:thumb_yello:


Thank you Sanat.. I just registered to thank you for this. I feel it's so true and needed for all of us.

:huglove:

[Sanat]

Thank you Sanat.. I just registered to thank you for this. I feel it's so true and needed for all of us.

:huglove:

I love/evol your name Evollove:biggrin2: It's like a standing wave of beauty!

[elias]

A member named Sharyn is doing independent communication with Orion, which is quite interesting, you can find her channellings on the thread on Energetic
Forum. People this seems quite real and EXCITING!

SEE http://www.energeticforum.com/psychic-paranormal/2663-where-will-you-october-14-a-2.html#post30311

[Teresa]

Hi ~ This is 'just a suggestion'.....

Maybe we can get Seer and Astrologer, Michael St.Clair,
to post a Chart here for 'October 14th, 2008' ?

If not, is there anyone else who would like to do one ?

I can also do one.. if something like this is wanted.


:thumb_yello:

[Sanat]

Hi ~ This is 'just a suggestion'.....

Maybe we can get Seer and Astrologer, Michael St.Clair,
to post a Chart here for 'October 14th, 2008' ?

If not, is there anyone else who would like to do one ?

I can also do one.. if something like this is wanted.


:thumb_yello:

Both would be interesting. So please go ahead!:original:

Here is a quote from the new message from our friend from the beyond, Matthew:

First, the undeniable presence of other civilizations. If safety cannot be assured for people on the planet and souls in the star nations themselves for their announced appearance October 14, the delay in that occurrence would not be lengthy--simply, the time for this has come. And when it happens, it will be extremely disruptive especially within the US government, which long has been under Illuminati control and thus denied even the possibility of other civilizations' existence, much less admit that extraterrestrials have met with its leaders and the consequences meted out to those beings who came with only peaceful intentions. Second, the truth about who planned and executed "9/11." In the higher vibrations in which Earth is now orbiting, that truth cannot be hidden much longer; when it emerges along with its even deeper purpose than controlling oil resources in the Mideast, which is to dominate the entire planet and kill or enslave its peoples, the Illuminati's long reign of terror will meet its just end. The global impact of these two major events is part of the ongoing world transformation and spiritual renewal of Earth's humankind, the God-blessed "ascension" joint venture with your space brotherhood that all of you on the planet chose in pre-birth agreements to be participants.

It is equally important that you know what other individuals who also have the ability to tap into the collective consciousness are seeing. Many are accurately seeing what we have described in Earth's Golden Age—the loving, peaceful life of all peoples, the restoration of your planet's health and beauty, the harmonious co-existence of humankind with all of Nature. In this wondrous Earth that is on the near horizon and already created in the continuum, there is no fear, no violence or greed or bigotry or any other divisiveness that thrives in a third density world. The choice is yours as to which world you want to be in, but because of our unconditional love for every soul, we pray you will choose the one of love and peace.

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=92&z=2

[Sanat]

Below is Matthews response to the common saying that: "We cannot be saved by the ETs. We must fix things by ourselves". I am not suggesting there is not truth in this, but it has become a rather annoying mantra. And it is also based on the misunderstanding that assisting with worldly matters is the same as trying to interfere with our spiritual evolution/growth. The ETs are and have been a big part of our history as all is connected always. The extent of their assistance and opennes in doing so is directly tied to mankinds Level of Consciousness (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=14) which has been rapidly growing for some time now. Thus, the 14 october event is a natural step up in accordance with were we are at this time. Matthews response to this offers a good balance:

23. Some lightworkers are pleading for mass landings NOW and others are of the mind that Earth's peoples should stop looking to the skies for help because you're supposed to bring about all necessary reforms yourselves. Oh my! Divide and conquer? Your space family has been assisting Earth in ways you cannot, and they are not taking on the entire responsibility of transforming your world—they are working with you to manifest the world you want. And they cannot land en masse and delve right in with their pollution-clearing and other technologies until there is safety for them and all of you.

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=92&z=2

Remember that "physical reality" is simpy a mirror reflecting our level of mass consciousness which fluctuates around an average value (same is true on the individual micro level). The ETs have the technology etc. to manifest changes rapidly in the 3D reality according to our level of evolvement. This is not "artificial intervention", but rather the mirror of "physical reality" reflecting back to us the changes that have taken place in our level of evolvement. It is OK for a sick person to accept assistence from benevolent helpers as long as they do not become a crutch for him, but rather help him to rid himself of all crutches...

Here I offer my personal measuring of our level of mass consciousness with respect to David Hawkins scale (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=14) and also using his method (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=16). Make of it as you wish:

Level of mass consciousness at certain points in time:

1945: (160)

1980: (190)

1990: (205)

2000: (207)

2003: (206)

2008 (primo): (211)

2008 (today): (256)

In short: Below 200 thrives darkness, victim/abuse consciousness, isolation, fear/animalistic/ego. Above 200 is more and more empowerment, independance, happiness, Light/Love. We are moving in the right direction it seems, and DO take into consideration that the scale is exponential...

For those interested in a short but very good intro to this scale read this article of Steve Pavlina:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/04/levels-of-consciousness/

And also the followup about how to raise it:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/04/raising-your-consciousness/

[viking]

Another message from Blossom Goodchild :original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXzkFm0VnTA

viking

[seeing clearly]

Since this change I am lost as to just what I can post.
There is much online and in my memory banks which would be quite helpful.

It has been stated we need to post what we know but personal
opinions are not kool.
it has been said also that c&p is not kool but pertinent articles are
welcome.

I gave up reading all the marching orders and went to more peaceful sites!

Being from a now passing generation I am not connected to this circular
thinking M.O. BLESSED BE !

I am OTT logical, and at same time highly intuitive and easily get lost in
contradictory statements and disparate 'guidance' by the well meaning .

Never worked in an office to get the training to understand this kind of
communications which I DO suspect are the ego trippings of some of
the members here and have no relation to making this a successful forum
IF it is intended it to BE a successful forum. also I am eternally grateful
I never got "trained" to understand the duplicituousness of circular
thinking .

what we post seems limited by some rather narrow guidelines
of members who seem to know what is supposed to be allowed
and it is just confusing to me. be careful of what basic mores you
allow as the very ones you try to keep out may hold the seeds
of your salvation."VARIETY is the very spice of life that gives
it all its flavour".


This is why I am steering clear except for Health and Ground Crew page.

Y'all do miss some great info and wit but other venus love my dance.



here on this thread I think I can add just a small contribution

and YES I am an astrologer.

but not ready to post here and incur the wrath of those who
believe in their own infallibility and that of their chosen gurus
and seem to be so invested in that a newbie doesnt want to get
into those ego entanglements making silence is the best contribution to
this current stage in the development of this forum.

Motto here seems to be Lurkers encouraged to applaud those who
are the guides of what the founders intended and otherwise keep quiet.

I DID keep quiet as to the results of the change.
This is MY statement on it NOW and I will return to lurker status.
Now I dont come as often or read as much
All vanilla is BORING !

***

Now here is my little bit to this DATE thingie:

In Astrology there are certain dates Historically that have been turning
points or flash points for great changes or momentous happenings


as is Aug 9th, April 19th and so many more.......

one date considered to be AUSPICIOUS is OCTOBER 18th.
if anything goes down such as a peace treaty I did not make
any prediction here, only reminded readers of the energy of that date

It has been said by more than one Astrologer that by way of huge
scandals one day the whole of the US Congress will RESIGN in one fell
swoop!

if we all concentrate on it ....
its number value is 9 , beginings and endings

if we all make a vision...

just a little idea.

,

[Shaun*]

(^_*)



an update from Blossom for us:)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXzkFm0VnTA





take me home!:)


much love to you all and to all that is



namaste

[Teresa]

[QUOTE=Sanat;27861]Both would be interesting. So please go ahead!:original:

---


Hi ~ Thank you, Sanat ~

First of all, I'd like to also thank 'ZJenny'-- who, posted (above), for all her 'insights'

I can relate to what you are saying in your post, above, ZJenny--- and, I like the way you think !

*

Sanat, i noticed there actually already IS an 'astro chart' displayed on this Forum at the "Astrology by St.Clair" thread :

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3193


It is located in the #6 Blog --- There you can scroll down to see the chart for 'FULL MOON OCTOBER 14, 2008'

I did not study it too thoroughly, but what 'stands out' about it FOR ME is the fact that Neptune and the Sun will be in trine; favorable aspect.
Being at 21-Libra and 21-Aquarius, respectively, we can get a sense that there 'could be' poetic and beautiful; peaceful developement occurring.

With the moon opposing the Sun at the same time, though, it could also mean that there 'could' be anywhere from a "simple disagreement" to a full out revolt from the masses to what 'may' be a large scale 'disillusionment' perhaps orchestrated from 'the government' or those we are supposed to trust.

Intuitively, IMO, i feel that "the status quo" (powers that be) are up to "something"....

Sorry to be suspisciously vague, but i can't really put my finger on it at this time--- All i can sense is that 'something' is lurking with the fact that other planetary allignments occurring simultaneoulsy on October 14, such as the Saturn/Uranus opposition as well as Neptune opposing the South Node add to the inauspiciousness of it.

Well, if anything else 'comes to me' i will let you know---

I will post in another thread soon a very interesting pdf that i found pertaining to "the October Surprise."
I will give that link out here
when it is posted.

Thanks, :) /teresa

[Teresa]

ooops, ZJenny (?), i just realized your name is 'Seeing Clearly'.... sorry;

you have the same avatar....

[Mark]

This tread will probably be closed, but it shouldn't be. I feel really good about this - keep the faith, love and light...

[Sanat]

No, don't think like that mate. Cheer up!:trumpet:

Here, let me share an email someone sent Blossom Goodchild and she posted it on her site. This illustrates how huge this thing has already become, and remember; these things grow exponentially(!):

82.when I search just for Blossom Goodchild this is what I found in youtube; Just thought you would like to know you message is gettin gout there. there are several english versions of your message that have recived a total of 105,110 views. A spanish version has recieved a total of 163,475 total views. WOW! when I search for the Fedearation of Light there are over 40 DIFFERENT VIDEOS PERTAINING TO YOUR MESSAGE with a total of 280,499 views. Several of these are in different languages I think German and Spanish. Alot of people are getting this information, I think every one is trying to get the message out. I am so happy about this. There are 80 videos on October 14th alone. This is HUGE.

http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/BGoct14_page8.html

What people need to realize is that if 2012 is indeed the kind of deadline we all feel it to be, then a whole lot will have to happen on earth before that deadline which is only a few years from now. The ETs have an important part to play in all this, and the 14 october event will kickstart the whole process.

Everyone on the planet must be taken into consideration as everyone should be offered a fair opportunity to evolve. Still the majority of people have more than enough with daily struggle for survival. A certain balance in wealth is needed to raise the vibration of this Planet (mass consciousness) in a major way, and allow everyone at least the opportunity to ascend. There is a lot going on behind the scenes to prepare for this. A lot is going on that will surface very soon. It had to be kept in stealth mode for obvious reasons, and also because the Light cannot win by using dark methods. There are many kinds of Lightworkers in this game. The ET technology and repressed free energy technology etc. will also play a major part in all this once the dark regime is removed.

I know from my own experience that a lot can happen very fast and change things in seemingly miraculous ways in a short amount of time. A few years ago I was totally depressed/lost and drinking hard. This is not the case anymore to say the least. Same thing goes for a friend of mine (only one I have left. hehe). Heaven and hell are indeed an inch apart... Since time is getting shorter our "karma" have lesser time to play it self out, thus it is compressed and things get more and more intense. This can be "frightening" and misinterpreted as if things are not moving in the right direction while indeed, they are. Try to relax and allow the process to flow freely as this will lesson the symptoms.

Even people who are not in to these things at all (yet) have come to me and talked about something about an ET craft 14 october. I reply: Oh, really. I haven't heard! Please tell me about it! Hehe. It's more fun that way!:naughty:

[eris]

extra good post Sanat :punk: totally agree with u there

[DoctorWho]

Practical issue: What about the sick, elderly, and imprisoned? How do they get this info if they are cut off from the internet and real world, beside people just telling them and not having the oppotunity to make informed decisions from their own research?
Bill "the Doctor"

[Moria]

I agree with you Sanat!
No fear, even if they plan to use nuclear weapons, we are protected. We must ask and then we shall receive. We need this event to happen guys so be optimistic, we will not lose anything if it doesn't happen, because we have gained something already and it is named HOPE, and that is enough isn't it? HOPE is energy and that will shift our reality to a better one, so plz don't criticize it and let time tell if this is going to happen or not, and don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen because eventually it should happen.

Much Love and Gratitude ....

Hi Elias & Sanat :)

I agree with what you say, ask and we will recieve. If we put our focus on the negative in the October 14 happenings, then that will be what we will experience. If we all focus on the positive aspects, then we're helping the entire world to change for the better, UFO sighting or not.

Our focus should always be on the positive side, no matter what the situation.

I, for one, am So looking forward to this! :)

Love,
Moria x

[kauhane]

sanat & elias
i'm right there with you
I just completed an oil painting of first contact space craft
sitting over waimea valley on oahu
thats where i live so thats where i want to experiance it
I'll throw it up soon
in my opinion this october 14th event would definitely help speed the awakening process
timed right as our old system' foundations come apart
and the consciousness has the equivalent of a nervous breakdown
this has a potential for seeking/creating a new opening to higher thought/self
i believe our family of light have foreseen this opening

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Zenbuoy]

from Moria

"Our focus should always be on the positive side, no matter what the situation."



Yes! As Borat said, "Ver nize."

All of this stuff we keep up with can be processed with an end thinking result which is positive, I choose to think.

There's this dude, the Dali Lama, who has said, "Be positive under any circumsances."

I am still standing. We all can stand up to negative thinking.
:mf_swordfight:

[stefaan]

The obligation to put emphasis on positivity, and ban all negativity, is very one-sided, completely out of balance.
Shouldn't we give both their right place, and stay in the middle?

[Zenbuoy]

The obligation to put emphasis on positivity, and ban all negativity, is very one-sided, completely out of balance.
Shouldn't we give both their right place, and stay in the middle?

No one with this wierd avatar wrote to "ban all negativity."

On the contrary, this avatar chooses to "look" at all info and come away with thinking the middle-to-positive. Fear thinking seems to reside away from the middle-to-positive "direction."

Joseph Campbell said, "Say yes," to darkness that exists. It is part of all.

My good fight is on the "middle-to-positive."

be well

[wes_whitewolf]

Great replies Sanat and thanks for the additional info/links. Its true, our Star family is here to help us help ourselves...we have it all within us if we simply calm down and listen...I see many of the other's are also unlocking the "Secret Within". When I see this, I am reminded of the movie 2010 and the line: "...what's going to happen?...SOMETHING WONDERFUL!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1he3zmR7iGI
Don't underestimate what Clarke/Kubrick knew and the clues they left us...like many before them!!!!

[Sanat]

Please explain what focusing on the positive side really is all about. i am serious here. It is great to always say think only positive thoughts but that doesn't explain how people are supposed to handle everyday situations in the physical. I am not disagreeing with you but please give examples because everyone doesn't understand.

It simply means that you can interpret ANY given situation in such a way as to maximize your growing/evolving/learning from it. It seems negative that a dark elite have ruled this planet but if you interpret this into a larger context you will see that they have provided the heat and pressure to make our coal into a diamond... This is the trick. All is designed to maximize our growth/evolving. If you see things this way and put evolving/growth/learning as your number one priority in life every experience becomes "positive" because you can grow/learn/evolve from every experience...

[Oneness]

The latest news from Blossom Goodchild from two days ago. How many of us are ready? Thoughts on this anyone?

http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com/

[Oneness]

Keep your eyes to the skys people. From my own investigating, the time is soon. ..And I think alot of us can feel it. :roftl:

[henners]

I hope it goes ahead as planned, but i get the impression this is another false flag operation. Just saw the George Noory interview with Alex Jones and it makes a lot of sense. Its on You Tube.

As much as i pray and wish this is all true, somehow my feeling is that its another 9/11 type operation. Don't get me wrong, i have a feeling which has been growing for the past 6 months that something big is happening soon, but again i don't know if that is wishful thinking. These people in power will do anything just to control our minds and i would not put it past them if they were planning this in order to take our eyes off the economy and the problems associated with it.

I hope i can eat my words in two weeks if and when it comes true. I have been talking to many people in my job, (tour coach driver) and lots of people just do not believe any of this at all. Its like banging your head against a wall. Then they look at you as if you are crazy. We'll see in two weeks.
Sorry for ranting on but i am very passionate about our world and all of us that are being manipulated by a few individuals when we really know what is going on and cannot do anything about it.
Peace to all.:tears:

[spaceman44]

Hi Oneness, I think that many of us are ready for this experience, some of us are afraid of this and wish not to believe that this will happen. The fear of the unknown.

We have to accept this visit as one of a beginning, a new beginning for all of us to grab hold with both hands and with our hearts, they come with LOVE and we should accept them with the same, LOVE.

[Oneness]

I hear you Henners. It's just that so many of us on here concentrate on so much negative energy, and talk of deception and these fools running the show. I've gotten plenty of angry. :) It's just that...

That which is like unto itself is drawn.

I am pumped for this...if it is true. We concentrate all our creativeness, all our being on worry and fear, drawing and pullling to us the very thing that we wish not to create.

I have been banging my head as well getting others to awake, but everything is happening just as it is supposed to. I see everything as one. See the contrast, the negativity, and from ...choose to resonate in positive vibration.

I was getting so wrapped up in NWO material, I forgot what it was like to take a deep breath and notice the beauty that still surrounds us.

I anticipate the amazing, and wonderful things that are about to happen.

Namaste

[Oneness]

Hi Oneness, I think that many of us are ready for this experience, some of us are afraid of this and wish not to believe that this will happen. The fear of the unknown.

We have to accept this visit as one of a beginning, a new beginning for all of us to grab hold with both hands and with our hearts, they come with LOVE and we should accept them with the same, LOVE.


I'm with you. :thumb_yello:

[sfth13]

:welcomeani: that's all I have to say.

[TAXMASTER]

I remember all the hype on 5-5-2000. the planets were in a line and there was supposed to be a poleshift. then when that didn't happen, most of those websites closed up shop but a few said that it would happen on 5-5-2001. when that didn't happen then the rest of them just withered and died. I am so tired of hearing this bs and then when it doesn't happen then we are all reminded that we control our own destiny and because our will was so great, we overted whatever it was that didn't happen. meanwhile all the people that that pushed the bs on us were busy selling books, dream catchers, and astrology readings etc. meanwhile all the sheeple look on the net for some other new age prophet to worship and send their money to.

I know this sounds cynical, that is why I was attracted to camelot. they were the first of its kind that wasn't selling something. and yes I guess I was one of those sheeple. I am just tired of phonies that cannot make it in the real world and come up with some really preposterous stuff so they can peddle their wares. I am not from michigan but from now on show me.

[Animos]

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.

[sirian77]

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.

nothing to add with that, i'm with ya on this one. people and dates, wrong combination :winksmiley02:

[sirian77]

The latest news from Blossom Goodchild from two days ago. How many of us are ready? Thoughts on this anyone?

http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com/


doesn't this belong to the airy fairy thread? :mfr_lol:

[Oneness]

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.

Point taken Animos

If it doesn't happen..it'll just be another day. Though there is way too much information coming out regarding contact with Extraterrestrial life to be of insignificance. I have this feeling that eons ago, this was common for many to engage with others from star systems and dimensions beyond our own in the Atlantian era. Hence the point of this NWO of keeping us in a box of fear, of not knowing what we really are.

After studying conciousness and bits of psychology for many years, it seems to all be culminating....at some point... sooner than later.

A convergence.

[Ava]

Taxmaster, I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you.
And I can't wait to hear the new excuses after Oct 14th.

I feel very uncomfortable in this forum. It does not fit to Project Camelot, although I must say, I do have the feeling that Bill and Kerry have changed. I miss the distance they used to have to their information.

Thatswhy I tried to leave this forum. But it is not possible to leave. Once you register, there is no way out, which also explains the amount of members. And this trap gives an even worse impression. Apart from the fact that I didn't get any reply when I asked how to leave and although I know Bill personally. I really don't know what to think about this, except that I am very disappointed.

[Erdrix]

What will you do if this does not happen??

What if "they" are just playing with those who can't make a decision?
What if this is just a "set-up"..a "trap"...so you will loose your "faith" when this does not happen??


What do you all that believe in this know about psychologie??

p.s.

I hope it will, but I doubt...very much and still hope that I am wrong.


I think the more interesting question is what will people whom, are so against the idea of it happening and who are absolutely sure that there is no way it would happen, how will they react? It would shake their beliefs to the core.

I've been following the GFL threads on this site and on other sites for a few weeks and I really hope it does happen and they are indeed who they say they are, but if it doesn't happen its not going to affect me. I'll just keep trudging on like usual.

One other thing, I haven't given anyone I single dime so if these people are trying to make money they didn't get any from me. So, far I've seen one guy trying to capitalize on it and it was something ridiculous like charging twelve bucks for a phone call to hear a space meeting. :lmao:

[777 The Great Work]

Taxmaster, I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you.
And I can't wait to hear the new excuses after Oct 14th.

I feel very uncomfortable in this forum. It does not fit to Project Camelot, although I must say, I do have the feeling that Bill and Kerry have changed. I miss the distance they used to have to their information.

Thatswhy I tried to leave this forum. But it is not possible to leave. Once you register, there is no way out, which also explains the amount of members. And this trap gives an even worse impression. Apart from the fact that I didn't get any reply when I asked how to leave and although I know Bill personally. I really don't know what to think about this, except that I am very disappointed.

If it does happen, i believe its propaganda relating to the movie the day the earth stood still.
This movie depicts all of the electronics going down because of electromagnetic ( Magnito) pulse. The human Alien name Klatu came with his ninjas. I'm sorry his robot with a message for humanity. Remember that electronics don't work in room 1408
I'm not sure if those huge mothership videos were the work of photoshop and the poster of the video said that the source was unknown. The Game is up and we are not taking any more disinfo.

[mangetsu330]

Hi Oneness,

I just want to tell you that I am really looking forward to this event to come and that there are more and more Japanese people have started to talk about it on internet. I am sure the same thing is happening in other countries.

I know there still are a lot of people doubting about this coming event but let us send warm loving vibrations to them as the message from Fedelation of Light suggested in the recent's Blossom's message. And I know that some peope feel offended in this simple statement.

What I feel it is important to know is that there are no escapes. Which means, to be responsible to our own life on all levels...prersonal, social, global, emotional, and spiritual levels. I mean being responsible on all levels as much as you can as a humanbeing.. In other words, to take responsibilities.

Oneness, whatever others say or think about you does not matter as long as you take your own responsibilities. In other owrds, "Be ture to yourself."

I know that, deep within myself, I have been longing for this coming for long long time. This would be a big solution to this problematic world which has up-side-down values. The world systems are changing now. I think that's because our values are changing. We've had enough of up-side-values. This is enough! I say again, "THIS IS ENOUGH!" What's next? ...
If the basid values and therefore social systems change, whaow, I will face a totally new world.

However, I've also been asking myself just the opposit.
"What, if this is just another hoax?"...

Well, of course, I will be disappointed as a pyhsical and a third dimentional, being.

However, strangely, Oneness, I can tell you that, I feel ...
this loving feeling toward myself... more and more.... no matter what. This is the bottom line.

I think it's because of ...this having a pure intent. Indeed, it is pure.
It's like an innocent child praying for world peace even though not knowing the conditions of this outer messy world. I feel it is this pure innocent enegy to truly change the world. Oneness, you know that, right?
Jesus said "Be like a child". I think he meant that finding this child like pure energy within oneself.( I am not christian though.)

Your intent is same as mine. I can feel it. (That is why I am responding to you.)

I am really looking forwrd to finding rainbows in the sky. Oneness, you are not alone!!

(Sorry my English, I am not native as you know by now.)

mangetsu330

[Tuza]

After doing a lot of research and then going within I have changed my mind now, I believe this is for real and for one I will be jumping up and down if just to see my skeptical husband's face for a minute.

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Arkan]

I was wondering, how exactly will they present themselves if this October 14th event really happens? Will they hover over cities or will they actually communicate with us somehow? If they hover over us and don't communicate then how will the people out there know that they are benevolent--it might backfire. The Illuminati might use this as a reason to unite the planet under its world government. In order to dispel the initial fear that they would cause they might have to do some incredible things to prove to us that they are benevolent. Wouldn't showing up for a few hours then leaving produce more fear and desperation among us? Is something better than nothing? Any thoughts?

[Erdrix]

One thing that was said in one of the channelings was to judge them by their actions and we would then know who they are.

[Tuza]

It is reported they will stay for three 24 hours periods - three days. If you go to Blossom's blog and then do some more research to do with other messages from other channels you will get the gist of it. I think they are turning up because they no full well what the illuminati are up to and what they want to do. In my book - Afternoon Tea with James the Alien - I wrote that James (the alien) said that 'we are only allowed to intervene if we are given permission from the spiritual hierarchy'. From my research I believe they have been given that now - quote from another source - mother earth is a living being and called out for help so it was not destroyed and the Creator gave the ETs permission then to intervene'. - Some of my research for you.

[NeoEmc2]

I was wondering, how exactly will they present themselves if this October 14th event really happens? Will they hover over cities or will they actually communicate with us somehow? If they hover over us and don't communicate then how will the people out there know that they are benevolent--it might backfire. The Illuminati might use this as a reason to unite the planet under its world government. In order to dispel the initial fear that they would cause they might have to do some incredible things to prove to us that they are benevolent. Wouldn't showing up for a few hours then leaving produce more fear and desperation among us? Is something better than nothing? Any thoughts?

Read and educate yourself - http://www.cosmicawareness.com/

Click on the "First Alien Contact is Imminent" link and you'll get a word file with the channeled information from the ETs that are supposed to be showing up.

[Pithiny]

I am thrilled this is happening in MY lifetime. 15 years ago, I read:

Nothing in This Book Is True, but It's Exactly How Things Are
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1883319013/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

Within a week, I took my kids, then 9 & 12, out for a spin in the convertible, with the top down, and matter of factly told them of the Alien presence, and told them Contact would happen in their lifetime, and they should mentally accept this and prepare. I told them it was a toss-up as to whether it would happen in my lifetime.

I called my daughter a couple weeks ago and asked her if she remembered that day, she did. I told her of the announcement, and asked her how she would feel if she looked outside to see a couple dozen alien ships in the sky. She replied she'd be scared. I told her that her job, since she has been told in advance, is to comfort those around her ON THAT DAY, to reassure them that the aliens come in LOVE, to help us clean up the planet, to aid in ridding our planet of oppressors, and to share clean renewable energy that will not pollute the planet.

Over the last couple weeks I have been sending her links, proof of the alien presence--telling her to save the links till the event--when she will want to have more information for herself and others.

I BELIEVE. I have always believed, and I cannot describe in words how excited I am.
If it does not happen, well, as another poster said: It will happen on another day.

In any event, I am MORE than ready. I'll be outside crying tears of pure Joy, and waving!

[LadyGolfer]

:naughty: Hello all, I have been researching the message regarding October 14th Event to attempt to figure out where it will take place. I have come across some interesting information I think you will find very interesting. If you follow this link, there is a paragraph which concerns ancient times and the southern hemisphere in regards to Alabama. Read paragraphs 6, 9 and 10. Here is the link
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message582705/pg8

[sharkmeldon]

The latest news from Blossom Goodchild from two days ago. How many of us are ready? Thoughts on this anyone?

http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com/

it's about bloody time, eh?
we finally get to come home!
the cries of mother earth's children have been heard!
yippie!

[sfth13]

here's part of the original message

"TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND
ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH ….

We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your month of October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be visible within your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states. "

it says "in the South of your hemisphere" not in the southern hemisphere well i guess this would depend on where you are while reading this message..or who this message was directed to.. kinda confusing. but either way somebody better have a camera ready.

[Oneness]

I am surprised at the negativity displaced here on different threads.

Thank you mangetsu... Positive resonance is more of what's needed in Avalon.

..Ava.... if you didn't want to be here, you most likely wouldn't be posting. The reason for the fading of "distance" from information ..is because of "information convergence". It's getting to the point where I think alot of us know something big is about to happen. Kerry was witness to a ship herself not too long ago. ?????.... and not from some video, or picture, or web blog.

... to tell yo the truth... no one really KNOWS anything about how this contact will begin or end...or on what date.... whether it's the 14th or not... but my heart tells me something is definitely happening soon. The only thing I feel we should be listening to these days. Is that not what ascension is foretold to encompass in 4th density?

Arkan... if this event happens on this date or not, I would think that they are trying to make their presence known. At some point. I would hope our ET brothers and sisters...being a dimension ahead of us would have this figured out. :mfr_lol:

[henners]

Hey Oneness, since my last message earlier today i visited the link that NeoEmc2 gave us to "Cosmicawareness", WOW:mfr_omg:, i tell you it turned on a light in my head.

A couple of years ago i had a reading from someone here in Australia, Queensland to be precise, and they told me lots of stuff about me and things that would happen in the next few years regarding me and talking to lots of people telling them about life etc. I wasn't sure what this was about until i read the article on "cosmic Awareness" and then it all made sense to me.

I am almost 100% positive this is what the reading was referring to. Lets hope it all goes ahead.

:wink2:

[THE eXchanger]

Have any of you ever dealt with a negative entity [et or extradimensional]?

Apparently, not many of you have.

Otherwise you would know that your type of love and light does not work in some instances.

Do you know why?

I will tell you.

Your concept of love and light are incomplete.

You are viewing this from a purely physical (3d and astral [4th dimension] ) viewpoint.

Love is not the love you feel for family friends, spouses.

It is a unity with all things, and I mean all things, created.

Light is a manifestation of all creation, not just something of your own energy that you impose on others, because you think they need it.

Positivity and negativity are relative to individual perception.

This is what you are as individuals and beings on this planet. It is called polarity.

The object here is to learn to balance and not to cut off half of the teeter / taughter because you are afraid that you will bring on that which you most fear.

When you see a ship, individually
or with an enormous group,
and you will, can you discern entities within the ship or scan?

If not, then I highly recommend that you stop playing worn out new age stuff and get moving inwardly.
Knowledge, from within only, is the key to balancing.

this is from one who is well experienced,
a lifetime's worth.

:welcomeani:
Your message, is worth reading two/three,
maybe even ten times...
until it really sinks in,
and, mining it, for its real value

A big question,
many need to ask themselves,
is this...
if something comes into meet you in 3D,
how ascended is it ???

What steps do you take,
to insure, you are NOT messing
with some nasty
astral being,
that enjoys having you for a snack !!!

There are beings from 5th dimensional astral planes,
that can put on lights/and, dazzle you,
when, in fact, they are dressed up,
like you would dress up, to go out on hallowe'en
and, they can pretend to be,
whoever, they want to,
and, unless, you can truly discern for yourself,
who is coming calling/or knocking,
who is really, at your door,
you will NOT be properly equiped
to discern "real" facts.

For those, who can turn deeply within,
as, you can do,
as, that is very clairly seen,
there is indeed,
a massive banquet table,
and, a huge meeting room, or rooms,
and, if you set it up properly,
you can command,and, demand,
almost at will,
who it is, that can enter that sacred space.

There's a lot to know, on this journey through life.

eXchanging with anyone, or anything,
is NOT some kind of joking matter,
or, something to be taken lightly,
with something from higher dimensions of this world,
or, something from other worlds,
or, even another 3D being,
all is, NOT always, as, it might appear to be

i also, have had a lot of eXchange,
and, it does NOT normally occur,
"hollywood" style...

there are also such thing,
as blue-beams, which, i believe,
have been discussed on other threads,
holograms / or holographic appearances,
of things you may think, or believe are there,
however, they are NOT in fact, really there,
just an imagine-that appears that they are there.

search simple things on you tube

blue ghosts / gas station

if you'd like to see some

they also can be created to look like
mother mary, jesus, and, even GOD
or, a space ship

it's quite a journey through life...

we all have this amazing equipment to trip through life with, and, turn it all into an amazing voyage...
and, yet, most, will choose to stay stuck in 3D

sometimes, i wonder why that is ???

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

[THE eXchanger]

here's part of the original message

"TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND
ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH ….

We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your month of October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be visible within your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states. "

it says "in the South of your hemisphere" not in the southern hemisphere well i guess this would depend on where you are while reading this message..or who this message was directed to.. kinda confusing. but either way somebody better have a camera ready.

could someone post, the whole message ???

is there, an mp3 of it ???

so, we could hear the voice

thank you

[Carol]

As much as I enjoy reading this thread I'd like to remind you of the following:



Kerry and I (Bill) are in strong agreement about the following:

There's a 'funneling' function - a directional process - which leads from Camelot to Avalon.

People get their data from Camelot (if they don't have it already). Avalon is then what to do about it.


What is your plan? This is the type of discussion which is of benefit to everyone. Otherwise you're just using band space to vent. Personally I can relate all to well but don't want to waste what energy I do have on giving TPTB control over my emotions. I refuse to give into fear and to indulge in anger as I know that anger is the energy I need to faciitate the change I want to see in my life. Each of us has a choice how to use our energy. How do you plan to use yours?

[Alexandra]

:original:

[warngen]

I got to thinking about the "alabama in the southern part of your hemisphere" part and came up with one idea..although it may be erroneous and ridiculous...
Alabama was in the SOUTH during the Civil War.:winksmiley02:

[Fabio]

Great information guys keep us posted. I wonder what time will we see because of the time different s in europe and usa.

Kinds Regards
Fabio

Estonia, Tallinn

[Moria]

Hi Alexandra,

One example can be this; As soon as media broadcast horrifying happenings, more of the same is soon to happen. When they write about a school massakre, then shortly after you will always hear that there has been more schools being threatend. When media writes a big article about suicide happening alot more with teenagers than a few years ago, then suddenly several young people commit suicide. So, when we focus on the negative in our surroundings, and lots of other people do the same, then we're 'generating' a momentum of negative energy that will draw even more of the same towards us.

There is a great 'exercise' to do to really experience what a difference our own outlook has on our lives, I think it's called the 30 Day Challenge.
For 30 days you are not 'allowed' to complain, talk bad about anyone/thing and work on always try to find a positive aspect in any given situation.
I'd add to refrain from watching/reading anything negative like the news or scary movies and only allow yourself to read/watch and talk about positive uplifting things. Do that for 30 days and see how much your own energy lifts.

Hope that explained my thoughts a bit better. :)

Moria x

[Greg10036]

It is reported they will stay for three 24 hours periods - three days. If you go to Blossom's blog and then do some more research to do with other messages from other channels you will get the gist of it. I think they are turning up because they no full well what the illuminati are up to and what they want to do. In my book - Afternoon Tea with James the Alien - I wrote that James (the alien) said that 'we are only allowed to intervene if we are given permission from the spiritual hierarchy'. From my research I believe they have been given that now - quote from another source - mother earth is a living being and called out for help so it was not destroyed and the Creator gave the ETs permission then to intervene'. - Some of my research for you.

I have not read any of the various information that all of you are referring to on this thread but I can share this. Last Tuesday, September 23, I was sitting on my porch feeling rather uncomfortable about the situations that are unfolding at this time-war, economic, etc. I received a palpable message from the star people at that moment. There has been a two hundred year heated debate within the Federation (or whatever you want to call it) as to whether to become involved in the Terran situation. They told me they had just reached a consensus in the council and they have a 'go'. I could sense the relief, joy, and how excited they were that now they could do something and not have to watch us destroy each other and the planet anymore.

There are several compelling reasons this has come about. The economics which have recently become obvious to even the most uninformed person, which dovetails with the technologic imbalance that has occurred, particularly in the last hundred years, has outstripped Terran spiritual, intellectual, and perhaps moral capacity. We are lost without direction. The critical mass of this situation and our seeming inability to do anything about it has caused great concern with the star people. They finally agree with each other to step in and help.

Make no mistake. They will not "save" us. They will help us and they will do this at times in apparent and palpable ways. This does not mean that global disclosure is imminent. I do not know if October 14 will be the "day the earth stands still". I have no information regarding that. What they told me, and what I have permission to tell you is that they are going to step in and help us focus and break out of this stalemate we are now in. That is all they are going to do. The rest is up to us.

This is of benefit to the star people also. Should nuclear war occur on this planet, time/space and space/time distortion would result in an imbalance in the galactic ecology which would reverbrate through the galaxy for an incomprehesible number of light-years, which would render this area of the galaxy a toxic no-fly zone for eons until the dimensional imbalances would eventually readjust themselves. They want to do business with us and they do not want to lose business for everyone in this sector of the galaxy. To help us at this time is a win/win situation. To do nothing, everybody loses.

When they told me this, I felt instant relaxation and peace of mind which is with me still to this moment. Be of good cheer. Help is here right now. They are going to help us get on the right track and get focus and direction so that we can save ourselves and create correct situation on Terra. They are on our side. Keep faith. Love and Peace.

Greg

[Glen]

If the E T s are so clever , why did they not make themselves knowen to the people who are of the good in this world not the governments who s agender is slavery and war greed ,destruction , and so on.

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Alexandra]

:original:

[arcora]

I see four possibilities.

1. It is untrue.

2. It is true and

a. The visitors are malicious.

b. The visitors are benign.

c. It is staged by humans.

If it is untrue there will be a lot of 'channels' with egg on their face. (A long time ago, prophets who were wrong would be stoned to death - I guess the people didn't like being deceived back then)

If it is true, I am not sure how we will determine the visitor's intent or whether it is staged.

[Kate]

I see four possibilities.

1. It is untrue.

2. It is true and

a. The visitors are malicious.

b. The visitors are benign.

c. It is staged by humans.

If it is untrue there will be a lot of 'channels' with egg on their face. (A long time ago, prophets who were wrong would be stoned to death - I guess the people didn't like being deceived back then)

If it is true, I am not sure how we will determine the visitor's intent or whether it is staged.


I totally agree with this summary! we all have to be very discerning at this stage.... its like the saying goes...expect the unexpected!!! :naughty:

[Tuza]

After some research about the topic, I did some research. I read that mother earth sent out a help message to the Creator because of the destruction that has been and is still being waged on her. Based on that, the Federation was given the green light to step in somewhat. They couldn't really do that before to this scale because it is not really allowed. I also read about those people that did a scientific test with some sort of elaborate tool to measure whether Blossom is right. Two different people did this and apparently it scored over 500 which is the mark for being 100% right for this to occur. I cannot remember what the tool was, maybe somebody else can explain it better. But viewing it with a logical mind after listening to the whistleblower testimony, the bad guys have all that technology now up in space and down here to create a really bad environment for earth and the people on it, that is why they have their undergrown bunkers and their stargates to offload them somewhere else they consider safe. So weigh up that information and come to a conclusion.

[Exarx]

i allways beleived that the E.T´s would come around 20-22 November since we are entering a daycycle according to the mayacalendar.
But i will watch the skies. It would really be of importance that they would show themselves since we, as a collective of humans, do need assistance at the moment.

[Moria]

Alexandra,

First of all I'd say that I am one of the least 'airy-fairy' people you could meet. I have both of my feet firmly on the ground and do not take things at face value.

As far as I'm aware I've never been in a fairy closet to begin with and have no intention of stepping into one either, as I enjoy my life very much as it is.

In no way have I said that I believe that there is only positive things in life, not sure where you got that from. I am fully aware of what's going on in my own life as well as in the world.

When it comes to 'make lemonade out of lemons', I'd say I must have made lots of lemonade through the years then, considering not only my personal life with friends and family, but also through my work where I deal with many clients that have gone through horrific experiences, like child molestation, rape, physical abuse... you name it.

I truly do not believe that my clients would come back to me time after time if I wasn't 'empathising and helping them get back on their feet'.
And, if I couldn't be there for another person in need, then I wouldn't be in the profession I am.

You asked me to explain what I meant with focusing on the positive aspects in life, instead of putting all focus on the negative stuff, and the way I read your question it came across as you had no idea what that meant at all, thus my respons.

Re: desire to be with all that is, I couldn't agree more Alexandra, seems like you learnt quite a bit in your closet. ;) However, I do believe that we create/co-create our own reality.


Moria x

[Moria]

A member named Sharyn is doing independent communication with Orion, which is quite interesting, you can find her channellings on the thread on Energetic
Forum. People this seems quite real and EXCITING!

SEE http://www.energeticforum.com/psychic-paranormal/2663-where-will-you-october-14-a-2.html#post30311

Hi Elias :)

Just wanted to say that you can also find some of her channellings here; Book of Light (http://book-of-light.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=152&st=0&sk=t&sd=a)

She's great! :D

Moria x

[stresswon]

My only problem with this story is that ET's channeled this lady to "Write a book"? Does anyone know if this book is for sale?

[Alexandra]

:original:

[TAXMASTER]

Just because I don't buy into this bs, does not mean I am negative.

Namaste'

[china2012]

After some research about the topic, I did some research. I read that mother earth sent out a help message to the Creator because of the destruction that has been and is still being waged on her. Based on that, the Federation was given the green light to step in somewhat. They couldn't really do that before to this scale because it is not really allowed. I also read about those people that did a scientific test with some sort of elaborate tool to measure whether Blossom is right. Two different people did this and apparently it scored over 500 which is the mark for being 100% right for this to occur. I cannot remember what the tool was, maybe somebody else can explain it better. But viewing it with a logical mind after listening to the whistleblower testimony, the bad guys have all that technology now up in space and down here to create a really bad environment for earth and the people on it, that is why they have their undergrown bunkers and their stargates to offload them somewhere else they consider safe. So weigh up that information and come to a conclusion.


Pls help me understand why there are bad guys would harm us human being fellows, since we are living under the same roof, why they want a war that leading to great destruction on Earth, it just doesn't make sense:tears:

[Moria]

Hello again, Alexandra :)

The only reason, again, that I posted about that 'exercise', was because your question came across as though you didn't have a clue about what I was saying, that's all.

I do agree that we need to take all aspects into consideration, not only the positive ones, but we still have a choice as where to put our main focus :)

Yes, I am very well aware of that phrase, and I do believe that there is an equal to everything, light to dark, positive to negative and so on. I also like the saying (paraphrasing wildly here ;)) You can silence darkness with light, but you can not silence light with darkness.

Moria x

[Sanat]

In case this thread has gotten somewhat of track I will share what David Wilcock has to say about the 14. october event in a new article he just wrote:

POSTSCRIPT: OCTOBER 14TH

This needs to be said in order to answer at least five emails a day I’m getting about October 14th.

Channeling is a beautiful thing when done well. It brings inspiration and loving consciousness to a world greatly in need. It also empowers us to make our own changes rather than stepping in to rescue us as if we were incapable of self-help.

I watched these crop circle prophecies about August 16th unfolding in June and July but did not publish. Part of it was that I was quite busy, but I also expected people would read into it too much and think that something grandiose and blatant would happen on that very day.

Then, of course, the skeptics would rush in and declare the whole thing a ‘hoax’ when nothing seemed to happen.

I realized that as soon as I mentioned the prophecy date, someone would immediately start a rumor that a massive UFO sighting would occur that day. The crop formations would be hailed as the "Blueprints to Contact" and lots of people would get excited about it.

Then, when it didn’t happen, everyone would be disappointed, the person who started the rumor would issue an embarrassing retraction, and be discredited.

This is all about to happen again, as it has every year since I got online in 1996. This time the day of disappointment will be October 15th.

I do feel sorry for the person who channeled this, and for all the people who believe it, as no matter how badly you might want this to happen, it’s not going to. At least not right now.

Due to the Law of Free Will that the ETs allegedly must follow, it is my understanding that a "mass sighting" will not happen until we as a planet have invited it. A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet.

I guarantee you that nothing unusual will be seen in the skies that day, because we are not at the point where we as a planet have reached a consensus about whether we want it to happen or not.

I hate to speak so bluntly, but we’re dealing with very serious issues here. Internet chain letters and back-slapping love-ins within UFO circles are not enough to create such a consensus. That is unlikely to change anytime soon.

We need to reach those people who sit and vegetate in front of the TV, blindly believing everything the top five corporations feed them with the trust of little children.

If you put a UFO in front of them, without any front-loading from the media, they would either worship it — and those who predicted its arrival — as Gods, and / or scourge them as devils. It creates an irreversible infringement upon our free will as a planet.

I don’t mind the letters. This is an opportunity for you to understand what a privilege it is to have this knowledge. Not everyone is ready for it yet, and that puts you in a unique position where you can have an active and beneficial effect in helping this planet evolve.

The truth of the extraterrestrial presence, and how it works with us, is a lot more interesting and beneficial for everyone on Earth than the idea of ETs coming in for a massive ‘bailout’ of our corrupt political system on October 14th.

You have to use your mind and solve a mystery with lots of different clues. I felt like a detective and enjoyed the thrill of discovery as I put all this together. I have since been dazzled to see it unfolding so perfectly.

With that said, we will continue with your intelligence briefing into the secret history of crop circles, and their relevance to our immediate present and future.

Source: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=407&Itemid=70

I like the fact that Wilcock has an essentially positive view of our future. This shines through many places in this article series. He believes that the dark/cabal illuminati are on the verge of being totally dismantled (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=31852#post31852). And he also states that the the ufo/ET coverup is about to blow. But as you can see he is not into the 14 october event.

I react to the fact that he seems to have gotten the whole thing a bit wrong. He states:

Due to the Law of Free Will that the ETs allegedly must follow, it is my understanding that a "mass sighting" will not happen until we as a planet have invited it. A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet.

Is this how he has interpreted the event? The original message does not state that they will "wipe out the NWO". Neither does it say that "the NWO group would take over the planet" if they (the ETs) did not intervene. I find this a bit strange coming from such a wellinformed person. It seems that he has not taken this event seriously enough to really investigate it.

His vision of what would happen if the UFO showed is, in my opinion at least, a gross underestimation of the people of this planet. That people "would either worship the ETs (and the channelers!) as gods, or scourge them as devils" does not ring true in my ears. This is not the middle ages anymore. Most people of the planet believe there to be ET intelligent life out there...

His article is focused upon that the dark cabal/illuminati is on the verge of collapse and of loosing their grip on the planet. He also says that the ET/UFO coverup is about to blow. Add these factors together and the 14th October event fits right into the grander scheme of things (whether it happens exactly on that date or not). Seeding this into the mass consciousness has been necessary to "check for consensus". The majority of sleeping people cannot be expected to consent. But as always; a "critical number" of people needs to be reached. And this is happening big time.

That was some thoughts on this issue. Hope to see other peoples opinion on all this!

[LadyGolfer]

In regards to "in the days of old" and "your southern hemisphere", please see this site which explains how the hemispheres were positioned many many years ago. This is the reason I posted my original message. The animated globe shows the information. :original:
http://www.livescience.com/environment/061117_app_mount.html

[TAXMASTER]

here is what david wilcox says about 10-14:

POSTSCRIPT: OCTOBER 14TH

This needs to be said in order to answer at least five emails a day I’m getting about October 14th.

Channeling is a beautiful thing when done well. It brings inspiration and loving consciousness to a world greatly in need. It also empowers us to make our own changes rather than stepping in to rescue us as if we were incapable of self-help.


I watched these crop circle prophecies about August 16th unfolding in June and July but did not publish. Part of it was that I was quite busy, but I also expected people would read into it too much and think that something grandiose and blatant would happen on that very day.

Then, of course, the skeptics would rush in and declare the whole thing a ‘hoax’ when nothing seemed to happen.

I realized that as soon as I mentioned the prophecy date, someone would immediately start a rumor that a massive UFO sighting would occur that day. The crop formations would be hailed as the "Blueprints to Contact" and lots of people would get excited about it.

Then, when it didn’t happen, everyone would be disappointed, the person who started the rumor would issue an embarrassing retraction, and be discredited.

This is all about to happen again, as it has every year since I got online in 1996. This time the day of disappointment will be October 15th.

I do feel sorry for the person who channeled this, and for all the people who believe it, as no matter how badly you might want this to happen, it’s not going to. At least not right now.


Due to the Law of Free Will that the ETs allegedly must follow, it is my understanding that a "mass sighting" will not happen until we as a planet have invited it. A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet.

I guarantee you that nothing unusual will be seen in the skies that day, because we are not at the point where we as a planet have reached a consensus about whether we want it to happen or not.

I hate to speak so bluntly, but we’re dealing with very serious issues here. Internet chain letters and back-slapping love-ins within UFO circles are not enough to create such a consensus. That is unlikely to change anytime soon.

We need to reach those people who sit and vegetate in front of the TV, blindly believing everything the top five corporations feed them with the trust of little children.








If you put a UFO in front of them, without any front-loading from the media, they would either worship it — and those who predicted its arrival — as Gods, and / or scourge them as devils. It creates an irreversible infringement upon our free will as a planet.

I don’t mind the letters. This is an opportunity for you to understand what a privilege it is to have this knowledge. Not everyone is ready for it yet, and that puts you in a unique position where you can have an active and beneficial effect in helping this planet evolve.


The truth of the extraterrestrial presence, and how it works with us, is a lot more interesting and beneficial for everyone on Earth than the idea of ETs coming in for a massive ‘bailout’ of our corrupt political system on October 14th.

You have to use your mind and solve a mystery with lots of different clues. I felt like a detective and enjoyed the thrill of discovery as I put all this together. I have since been dazzled to see it unfolding so perfectly.

With that said, we will continue with your intelligence briefing into the secret history of crop circles, and their relevance to our immediate present and future.

[NeoEmc2]

Sanat,

I think David Wilcock means wipe them out in the sense of just showing up. I think he means the truth would come out and therefore wipe them out. At least that's how I understand it.

[Jacqui D]

Well oneness i would really like to think that this will happen but something does not feel right.
I always follow my intuition and right now it seems to be saying BEWARE OF FALSE information.
When i first read blossoms writings i though YEH! great this is what i have been waiting for, for sooooo long.
As time went on i began to think seriously about it all and remembered that information was made to me about a holographic alien space ship being put out to the public to put the fear factor in to the masses.
The scenario of : The masses asking governments to save them from ET's.
Which inevitable puts the masses into there hands(governments) and so the control continues.
Imagine the hysterior, our governments taking control, rounding people up for safe places etc;
Oh yes i can see it all now.

But believe me i want nothing else than this to be the truth.:wink2:

[Carol]

Sanat, Thank you for making that post. :thumb_yello:

It's nice to get a fresh perspective.

[THE eXchanger]

this has a holly-wood smell to it !!!

i wish i could find Bill Ryan's comments on this !!!

(anyone know how to find those old comments) ???

[THE eXchanger]

here's part of the original message

"TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND
ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH ….


i have NEVER had an ascended master come to me,
and, start a message that way ...NOT ever !!!

besides:

first)
governer is spelled with an "O" :mfr_lol::mad3:

and, do you really think, that universal beings,
would address these types of evil people,
as, leaders ??? (that makes NO logical sense):trumpet:

second) they could NOT care less about politics :thumbdown:

they do however, care, how we eXchange:thumb_yello:

third)
they do NOT view "us" as "separations"
they view us,
as "creators", just like they are !!!

dear ones, or dear family,
who ALL have the onboard abilities, and, potentialS,
to be, as, they are !!!

sitting and watching, some "beam-blue" appearance
in the sky, may NOT be the "real" truth !!!

that is why they come to us,
to eXchange with us, and, they come to us,
normally, inside of US,
NOT, always in the view of physical eyes,
although some visit that way.

do you know why
places like blogtalkradio / myspace / etc,
are so popular ???

it is because, we,
the "real" people,
are the REAL STARS !!!

and, the sooner, we stop this crazy worship
and, this glitz, of hollywood productions
(similiar to landing on the moon)

and, realiSe,
fully realiSe,
that we can light up the stars
inside of us,
the sooner,
"a grand page, in the cosmos
will "make" itS turn"

(and, it iS all about YOUR PAGE)

when are you going to step into it ???

it is already happening NOW...
and, it will happen,
with you, or without out !!!

BRIGHTEST BLESSINGS

SUSAN ~the eXchanger

[THE eXchanger]

Moria,
I was referring to the thirty day only positive thoughts exercise.

I also have been working with clients, as a Crisis Interventionist/ and in Prevention for many years and now as a Usui Ryoho Reiki Master/Teacher . Just because I do not advocate living in a positive only frame of reference does not indicate that I dwell in negativity. All I am trying to convey, obviously unsuccessfully, is that in order to grow, one needs to view all aspects of this planet, albeit positive or negative.

Have you ever heard the phrase "There is no good and there is no evil for all is one."? There are two sides to every coin and you cannot utilize a coin with only one side because it cannot exist in a 3 dimensional world.

yup, and, there are 4 sides to a triangle ;) :mfr_lol:

allow most, are still viewing it, as three :lmfao:

[THE eXchanger]

Exchanger,
Bless the Cosmos!!!!!!!! Someone who understands! Finally!!!! Thanks for continuing with more valuable information in your post. It is a pleasure to meet you.

I realize that sometimes I may come across as harsh but I am "compelled" at times, to say things a certain way. It has been that way most of my life.

(((hugs alexandra---when i first read your words,
i saw a vision, of two, sitting on the old steps of the
alexandria libraries, in tears )))

it indeed is both a privilege and pleasure
to re-cross your path :thumb_yello:

isn't it amaSing, how some people here,
do NOT even read words,
they just see, what others, tell them, to see

and, yet admist,
these others,
are those that see beyond the words !!!

brightest blessings to you :flowers2:

Susan
the eXchanger :bond:

[Sanat]

This thread is about the 14 october event. If you don't really have anything to contribute about that, please start another thread instead, or write it in your diary. If you do have something to contribute, then please do so in a coherent and clear way. There are enough misunderstandings in the world already don't you agree? Speak your mind in a way that others can understand and get something constructive out of. That is a good rule to follow in my opinion.

[sfth13]

i have NEVER had an ascended master come to me,
and, start a message that way ...NOT ever !!!

besides:

first)
governer is spelled with an "O" :mfr_lol::mad3:



SUSAN ~the eXchanger

That was a cut and paste right from Blossoms website. I'm not sure what to make of it. I know I misspell alot but that one wasn't my fault. lol

http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/

[Alexandra]

original:

[conjuredUp]

I am not saying I buy this notion or not, BUT.... how weird is it that after all these years the Hubble Telescope just up and died????

Why NOW?

LOVE LOVE LOVE

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20080929/sc_space/hubblespacetelescopesuffersseriousfailure

[Professor Nordheim]

Something that caught my attention was the statement involving 'different' looking rainbows:

«We ask you to think of rainbows. There will be many that begin to appear in the next few weeks. Rainbows that seem different form the ones that you are familiar with.»

Bizarre colorful (luminous/glowing) cloud phenomenon in the sky was observed about 30 mins before the May 12, 2008 Sichuan earthquake took place. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4)

And China blames the US HAARP Program For Catastrophic Earthquakes! (http://redskynews.com/?p=167)

The Galactic Federation of Light? HAARP? Irisation? Earthquake lights? :shocked:

[NUTZ]

Just because I don't buy into this bs, does not mean I am negative.

Namaste' Hi Namaste and all. Just so you know you're not alone, I don't buy into the Galactic Federation thing either. I just don't buy into channeling. I believe people that hear voices in their heads cannot be sure where those voices are coming from: thier own head, a deceptive source, the government. I fell for the Y2K fiasco. I still have 300 gallons of water, tons of food (well maybe not tons) a very expensive wood stove I've used only that winter b/c I had the wood, a Sun oven (which I found out later wouldn't work if the temperature was freezing, even if the Sun was bright...I live in Colorado dah) etc., etc.

I have trouble meditating. I get distracted too easily. Does this mean I'll be left behind when "the time" comes? I believe whole heartedly in UFOs and extraterrestrials. But, why would they call themselves "THE GALACTIC FEDERATION"? Come on people. Just like how all the et's on tv shows and in movies all speak English...why not French or Japanese or only their own language? The name GF sounds like something right out of a Lucas script. I don't mean to put anyone down and I apologize if it sounds like that's what I'm doing. I just don't think it's wise to trust any being that has to talk inside your head. I believe there is a great deception coming soon and I refuse to be taken in by it.

Truly accept people as they are whatever they believe. Like many, don't go telling someone they are in any way less worthy and they will not be part of some "ascension" or 'rapture" and certain others will. How can anyone boast of having so much love in them and be so prideful and hurtful to others by telling them they will be "left behind"? Love is not boastful, proud or arrogant. No one should consider themself more worthy than another.

Besides all this, there is the fact of so many contradictions coming from channels. Would any species that claims to be highly evolved spiritually lie about the Earth being destroyed on a certain date? What loving species would be so cruel? And do they lie about themselves? If Jesus is one of the Galactic Federation ascended masters that claim to all be like minded or whatever, then why did he say he was the only way, the ONLY son of God while he was on Earth and change the story when with the federation? If the Galactic Federation is who they say they are, then would they just stand by and not try to help us grow? I am not a Christian, but I do believe in Jesus/Yeshua. I also believe there are counterfeits.


Please be considerate when talking to people that believe differently than you. When or if the shtf people don't need to be worried they will be forgotten or go to hell. They'll need love, compassion and a caring person to help them through the bad times. Don't judge them. Let the Creator do the judging. We will probably be surprized when we get to where we're going when we see who's there and who isn't.

Namaste, don't let the "negative" statement get to you. Only someone that has negative tendencies can tell another they're negative. They would know the statement was selfish and probably make the other person angry. Love doesn't provoke another to anger. Only pride says I'm better than you...or I'm positive and you're negative. You're a seeker of truth...don't stop. Keep questioning all things. Be on guard. Remain wise. You'll be okay. We're all spirits living a mortal existance. None of us are perfect. Just do your best to show love to all. (It's not easy, I know, but try anyway)

Blessings to everyone.:original:

[Rocky_Shorz]

There has been a two hundred year heated debate within the Federation (or whatever you want to call it) as to whether to become involved in the Terran situation. They told me they had just reached a consensus in the council and they have a 'go'. I could sense the relief, joy, and how excited they were that now they could do something and not have to watch us destroy each other and the planet anymore...


When they told me this, I felt instant relaxation and peace of mind which is with me still to this moment. Be of good cheer. Help is here right now. They are going to help us get on the right track and get focus and direction so that we can save ourselves and create correct situation on Terra. They are on our side. Keep faith. Love and Peace.

Greg

Hi Greg,

you should have seen their faces when I showed up in front of them...

They have already stepped in...

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=32280#post32280

I love showing so many coincidences to the doubters that even they start scratching their head and thinking about it...:winksmiley02:

I don't believe Oct 14th will be different than any other day...

[kauhane]

davids work has an fresh blend of intuition, scientific data, and peer review
which in my opinion helps to paint the bigger (positive) picture for me
but his opinion on oct 14 seems to contradict his self
"Whether you believe in a higher-level ‘Divine’ influence or not, there is no doubt that positive forces intervened to throw off this terrifying future timeline."
"Due to the Law of Free Will that the ETs allegedly must follow, it is my understanding that a "mass sighting" will not happen until we as a planet have invited it. A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet."

how is it that a mass showing of ET's interferes with free will?
BTW thats all they(ET's) said they will do is show themselves
a mass showing would definitely knock the hell out of the Illuminati/neocons
it seems more like assistance than interference .
I admit I have been asking for a mass showing since i was a kid

[Morphious]

How can we say : Hey you mr. alien guy you, I and the whole world would like you to come and have a cup of tea, If we "ALL" dont "Know" for sure they even exist in the first place ? Well i think it is possible that they may have to "show" the whole world that they do exist for sure for us to even want them to come and have a cup of tea , no ? So as far as free will goes , they first need to show up and give us the option of having the dicision to make a "Free will " choice right ? So in my humbble opinion i beleave it "could" happen indeed ! But like he said , many people say many things that never happen ! So when it is all said and done, the only thing for us to do is wait. :smoke:

[Sanat]

Excellent points Kauhane and Morphious!

There have been tens of thousands of sightings over the years. This is nothing but another "sighting" after all. Only difference is that this time the craft will be bigger and stay put long enough to remove all doubt about what it is. This time the lot of humanity cannot escape to face the fact about it. It will be all ove the news and inet of course. Yes, it will probably mark the beginning of the end of the dark cabal rule, but the sighting alone would not be sufficient to do that. There is a "ground crew" that has been working on that for decades already. See this post for info on that: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=31852#post31852 (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=31852#post31852)

This thing has split the "new age" community in two it seems. But when it happens it will hopefully have a unifying effect as people will have to leave their ego's aside. My own stance towards it is simple: I will participate fully in the game of manifesting the 14th october event, but I am not in any way attached to it. I am totally open for it, but I don't care if it happens or not. Thus, there is no ego involved.

As for "blue beam" which seems to concern so many people still. The ETs would never allow that to happen as it directly influences them. Yes, of course they can intervene if someone is trying to misrepresent them in a gross and destructive manner! "Blue beam" would have the potential to set back humanities view of the ETs. They are doing their very best to convince us of their loving intentions. It is very important to them that the 14th october event goes down without any danger to anyone. It will be the lot of humanities "first impression" of them after all. I really do not think the ETs would allow "blue beam" to be humanities first impression of them...

Is it not also a paradox that people so gladly give their beliefs/energy away to negative/dark "hollywood style" predictions like "blue beam" and other doom/gloom scenarios, but when something "good" is announced/predicted they want to be first in line to "dismiss it" up front, or twist it into something dark/scary/negative. I would perhaps reflect some more upon that tendency and dig deeper into myself to find out what it is really about, because it seems to me like an old religious hangover...

A quote from a FAQ about the event:

What if this whole event turns out to be a hostile encounter or a deception?

This question is brought up a lot. And I will tell you all what I tell those who ask me this. It isn't a hostile takeover by any means. Dark force deception relies on the manipulation of its worldwide media, of it's negativity and of its spread of fear. If this was part of some very dark scheme to deceive the world of an alien invasion angle, this would be reflected through media channels as a cover up to reveal a terrible consequence. But guess what, this information is only known by a very small handful of people. This information on 10-14-08 is only being revealed online through blogs and forums. If this was indeed a government ploy, then my friends, they would use the power of their media to conceal this threat only to release it at a certain time. That is my feelings towards this. The chances of this being a deception is slim to none.

http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/2008/09/faqs-asked-about-10-14-08.html

Here is a site dedicated to the event:

http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com/

[Sanat]

Great article on the event:

[...] Unbeknownst perhaps even to themselves, statements made by other individuals in the past corroborate her findings, one of these being immortalized on paper by Dannion Brinkley. In his latest book (entitled “Secrets of the Light” and published in 2004) on page 222 Brinkley says:

“By the year 2008, the fact that we are not alone in the universe will be made undeniably clear to everyone on the planet. With millions of planets and billions of stars, I cannot fathom how we could ever thought in any other terms. However, for those who have doubted, the extraterrestrials will make themselves known. I believe they feel they have no choice but to show themselves as we verge on self-annihilation, genocide and toxic poisoning. The truth of our inter-galactic lineage will become common knowledge. If I am to believe the vision, the truth of our intergalactic lineage will cause humanity to take one wild ride.”

A few things stand out in all this. For one, it is rather unusual for channels and mediums to give exact dates and places for events to occur - let alone the appearance of an alien spacecraft. Some leeway and margin of error is usually provided to allow for interpretation (and for people with less than honorable intentions, room to squiggle out from). Not in this case. Goodchild is adamant and steadfast on the date.

Another point to keep in mind is that from reading the materials on her web site (blossomgoodchild.com), Goodchild herself seems at odds with the information - almost as if she thinks herself unfit for the task of bringing this information to the world. This again, is quite unusual for channels and mediums. If anything, such people rarely exhibit doubt or disbelief in their own predictions.

source: http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0908/blossom.html

A curiosity from the article I did not know of:

October 14th 2008 translates to 10-14-2008, which becomes (if you subtract each number from the next) …minus 2012. Coincidence? Perhaps.

I also would like to quote the end of the article:

Even if Blossom turns out to be wrong and nothing occurs on or around October 14th this year, it is clear by humanity's current state of affairs that something of this nature needs to occur anyhow - and sooner rather than later. Full on contact and (to a degree) interference within human affairs cannot occur prior to a series of events such as these that will undeniably make the entire world acknowledge once and for all that Extraterrestrials are real. Whomever is watching over us needs to make themselves known, and any medium is viable, whether they are electronic, or human.

[Tuza]

Yes that is what made me turn my head.

"Another point to keep in mind is that from reading the materials on her web site (blossomgoodchild.com), Goodchild herself seems at odds with the information - almost as if she thinks herself unfit for the task of bringing this information to the world. This again, is quite unusual for channels and mediums. If anything, such people rarely exhibit doubt or disbelief in their own predictions. "

[Sanat]

Blossom Goodchild Clarifies October 14th event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFyK2N4RG_o

This new video from Goodchild is very good and down to earth. Enjoy!

[Floyd]

Here is a compilation of different channeled messages confirming the appearence of a craft on October the 14th put together by the Cosmic Lighthouse group.
Personally I doubt anything will appear in the physical skies.

[Floyd]

http://www.cosmiclighthouse.com/node/1638

[Ali Quadir]

In the case the october 14 event does seem to occur. Please remember that an antichrist was prophecised by the bible the hopi and nostradamus. An event like this could really work to the advantage of the dark side.

It would simply be another problem secretly created and openly solved by the dark side in the public movie.

This was prophecised for 2008 in multiple sources. So people expect it. This would be the ideal time to unfold such an operation. Especially because the previous terrorism game stopped being believable for most people. Especially because so many of us lightworkers are vulnerable to this kind of deception.

And we do know for an absolute fact that this kind of revelation at this moment in time would do more damage to earth than good. Therefore if it happens. They immediately prove that are not our friends. If intervention is required it will be done covertly to allow as much of our free will to remain intact as possible.

Our friends are here. But the time of contact has not yet arrived.

Namaste to all of you. I just arrived here. Deny the darkness the opportunity to play this game. It's not going to happen. You as co-creator choose here and now for the best possible outcome for all of humanity. The power of soul is what they cannot handle, understand, or protect against. They do not understand.

My soul is your soul..

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

Don't hold your breath on.
Oct 14th will come and go as any other.
If this was an event that was really going to happen then there should be a ton of colloberations. Gov. whistleblowers, hords of psychics, UFO contactees etc. etc. Not just a couple of channelers.

[jaby]

Excellent points Kauhane and Morphious!
This thing has split the "new age" community in two it seems. But when it happens it will hopefully have a unifying effect as people will have to leave their ego's aside. My own stance towards it is simple: I will participate fully in the game of manifesting the 14th october event, but I am not in any way attached to it. I am totally open for it, but I don't care if it happens or not. Thus, there is no ego involved.

Well said....I am totally focused on the October event. I have been since
I heard about it...and FELT the 'vibe'. That so many of us are tuning in
to it is an amazing thing. Everything can get so wishy washy regarding
how we 'come together'...we have a day, an incredible concept. We have
the possibility of something very important manifesting. I see Blossom
(bless her heart) as the catalyst for all this...but it is now a joint effort.

[jaby]

Don't hold your breath on.
Oct 14th will come and go as any other.
If this was an event that was really going to happen then there should be a ton of colloberations. Gov. whistleblowers, hords of psychics, UFO contactees etc. etc. Not just a couple of channelers.

No, no, no....the real breakthroughs are going to come from US.

While everyone is enamoured by the hierarchy of all you have mentioned
above.....the real breakthroughs will slip in just like this one has....
the October 14th thing.

We get our nourishment from the whistleblowers etc. and are eternally
grateful to them...(I know I am)...but they can't do everything.

It is a process....we are an active part of the process...co-creators.

Blossom is the spark that lit the fire....the fire is all of us.

[malakai]

Wilcock will be sat on the surface when the **** hits the fan so to speak.
There he will be waiting to accend, which means die.
I do not see him as a survivalist, maybe strong spiritually but nothing more and this will not save you .
I see that there are so many of these types of people out there, all have written books, which are for sale by the way.
Talk is cheap and preparation is everything, thats if you don't want to accend/die that is.
George Green is a guy you should listen too, as he is a realist and not full of this spiritually/past lives nonsense.
I mean don't get me wrong it is interesting and Yes, I think all these things are possible but if you don't get on track people you are all going to die/accend.
Hope to not sound too negative but hey, I too am a realist.
Peace and love to all

[NeoEmc2]

George Green is a guy you should listen too, as he is a realist and not full of this spiritually/past lives nonsense.
I mean don't get me wrong it is interesting and Yes, I think all these things are possible but if you don't get on track people you are all going to die/accend.
Hope to not sound too negative but hey, I too am a realist.
Peace and love to all


Spirituality has everything to do with what is happening, friend. If our planet was more spiritual we would not be caught in this mess. Try to do some reading, educate yourself and LEARN before you call spirituality nonsense. It seems to me you have the concept of dying and ascension mixed up - dying =/= ascension. It also sounds like you are afraid to die when you should know by now that dying is just part of life (part of the experience) - a door closes and a new one opens. On and on your spirit moves from lifetime to lifetime consuming knowledge to get closer to the source, the creation - everything that is.

Personally I am hoping that this event does happen because it will be wonderful. It'll change our planet forever.

Peace

[THE eXchanger]

a spiritualist is in negative pole is in faith

a spiritualist in the positive pole is in verification

something, that might be interesting to ponder

love
susan
the eXchanger

[Morphious]

..............

[myanvita]

well said Ali Quadir:groupwave:

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Operator]

Hi,

I don't want to burst anybody's bubble but I stumbled upon a presentation today that gave me an interesting new angle on this topic.

The presentation is by Stan Deyo. I never heard of him before ...
First of I liked the presentation but I have mixed feelings too. First of all this guy says he has been working for the Illuminati :mad3:

But also if you look at his website there is some fear mongering too. And he is also into selling books ....

Here's the presentation:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8222679614108378695&ei=o-ziSL70NqP0qAL46JXgDA&q=Stan+Deyo

at approx. 30 minutes he starts talking about how formations can make it look like a huge craft and he even discusses how
it is possible to hover for a longer period .... Further in the presentation he mentions it in detail again ....

I thought he also planned to talk about the NWO but he doesn't cover that in the presentation.

Now on his website there a is a kind of summary about one of his books:
http://standeyo.com/Our_Books/CC.about.html

Now there he discusses something which looks very similar to project blue-beam.

The point here's that of course we don't know if he's telling the truth. But if you consider his scenario (which may relate to
october 14th event from large ship/long hovering as said in the presentation) the event by itself will not prove anything !

According this scenario there are 2 (!) fakes parties: the goodies and baddies
And there's a whole lot more ...

I am kind of undecided by this for now. I am curious about other opinions and explanations.

Cheers

[Tuza]

http://www.ghostradiox.com

If you listen to this radio interview with Blossom you will get a good intuitive idea about what it is all about, first listen, then decide. I have seen and heard a lot of channellers in my time and most made me laugh out loud to see people believing them, but just give this a listen first, okay.

[Jetamus]

I think I mentioned it earlier in a thread on this same subject.

If this turns out to be a non-event, all of the sources that brought this message need to be scrapped.
Absolutely no one should be trusted after bringing such a blatant lie to so many people.

This included Matthew messages and all other 'channelings' as well.

[Morphious]

I think I mentioned it earlier in a thread on this same subject.

If this turns out to be a non-event, all of the sources that brought this message need to be scrapped.
Absolutely no one should be trusted after bringing such a blatant lie to so many people.

This included Matthew messages and all other 'channelings' as well.

Agreed ! ) Also i want to say a couple things about Blossom, First i did email her back and forth in the very begining of all this oct 14 stuff. I do beleave she is genuine ! BUT we must all think of all the possibilites. 1. there is always a "possibility" That Blossom has channeled a being with not so good intentions, our other goals, this may very well be the beings duty, and i think we need to accept that. 2 Maybe it is simply the idea that we are supossed to consider. (Quote A new idea is first condemned as ridiculous and then dismissed as trivial, until finally, it becomes what everybody knows. )

[THE eXchanger]

does a message like this require discernment ???:lmao:

http://www.ashtarontheroad.com/oct14appearance.html

[evollove]

I was just wondering if anyone listened to Steven Greer's talk from Sep 26 at http://www.worldpuja.org/conversations.php

They talk about their last training experience and how this time there was much more than usual of the interaction with the ETs and seeing a lot of their crafts -- the timing (right before Oct 14) is interesting..

But also the last 20 minutes of the talk are very interesting where he talks about how a G8 country wants him to make the first public official contact with the ETs, and how the US knows about this and said they're fine with it so long it doesn't happen in the US. Maybe this might have something to do with the next month supposed event..

[Sanat]

I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed when they realize that "armageddon" is not going to happen. Neither will "blue beam" or any other beam. Several good reasons for this have already been stated in this thread. Many people still stubbornly believe in the negative doom/gloom scenarios. I would not waste any time on trying to convince them of anything else. The negative/dark focus is to weak to have any effect on the positive/Light outcome of this situation which so many people are waking up to these days.

If this turns out to be a "non-event" a lot of mistrust will happen because a lot of people have totally attached themselves to that specific date. As Matthew said in his latest message (http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=92&z=2):

If safety cannot be assured for people on the planet and souls in the star nations themselves for their announced appearance October 14, the delay in that occurrence would not be lengthy--simply, the time for this has come.

It is good to keep this in mind. It is very unusual that all these channelers give a specific date for anything. Much less a huge event that will change humanity for ever. As this has happened it means that the sources of the info are very certain about it. But keep Matthews words in mind and don't be totally disappointed if it does not happen on the exact date. Allow for some flexability. There are things on the ground that needs to be "in place" for this also. Not least to assure the safety of all so the event is nothing but positive for as many people as possible (free will allows anyone to view it as "negative", of course).

How did people think "first contact" would do down anyway? This event is a natural progression from all previous "sighting events". It happens step by step... Nice and easy. hehe:original: When this event occurs (14th or some other date) a lot of people (star kids) in the "ground crew" will establish telepathic contact with their respective star families:

What is also planned is that many will start to have a deep connection with the extraterrestrial galactic representatives, in other words, that there will be heightened conscious awareness, contact happening at
an individual level with many individuals worldwide. Contact not simply of an alien appearing in someone's room manifesting in this way, but rather contact at those deeper levels of consciousness, messages, many many messages being given to many individuals who are sensitive enough to receive such communication, who will be able to speak to many around them, to prepare many around them. Thus it is seen that the period between the first sighting and appearance of the alien vessel and actual first contact will be a period of preparation, of preparing the ground, of preparing individuals, of preparing the human community for actual first contact, that this is seen as a very important step and that there are many many individuals whose life purpose it was, star beings, who chose physical incarnation, who will come into their own, who will finally step into their purpose, and that purpose is to act as intermediaries, to act as ambassadors for the star nations peoples, those beings who are ready to present themselves. That these individuals will come forward for it is as if a switch will finally be turned on, they will know themselves, they will come forward, they will communicate the information that they are given to individuals and more and more messages will come forward, preparing mankind for the actual first contact that is imminent, that is planned. This Awareness wishes all to know this at this time, to prepare themselves for this amazing event, this event that has been so long planned but has been held up for so long.


Source: http://www.cosmicawareness.org/2008-10%20Hotline.doc

[henners]

I'm with you Sanat. Infact i had a reading two years ago and was told that a would be changing the type of work i would be doing and would be talking to many people, possibly hundreds or thousands about "things" that they would want to learn from me. This message meant nothing to me for two years. But possibly now it means a lot more. Lets hope this is true as i have great faith, not just now but in the future for all of us to awaken human kind and turn this planet around.

Henners

[Sanat]

Dear Ones a beautiful wave of Light is sweeping over the Earth and will continue to do so as there is a new awakening, hastened by the emergence of joy and happiness at the first public announcement of our arrival. How much it will reveal is up to your response in the meantime. We not only observe but also register the upsurge of a heightened energy full of expectation as to the future. The chaos now being experienced by you is the period of cleansing that shall see opportunities for a totally new approach to your needs. No longer are the old ways acceptable, and it would be a waste of your energy and resources to resurrect the format upon which your financial markets were based. It will be a time of concern for many of you, but remember that in the long run all of your needs will be satisfied.

The suddenness of what is happening has been looming for a long time, and the outcome could no longer be held back. It has come as a great shock to the Illuminati who thought they were still in charge. However, your destiny has been taken out of their hands for some time now, and at last you are beginning to see how the changes are manifesting for your betterment. There are still a few steps to go, and we await the opportunity to promote our allies to the positions of power, but this time they shall be trustworthy, honest and true to the Light within. You have spoken and we of the Light have responded in no uncertain ways, and this is only the beginning of a series of changes that will quickly lead to peace at all levels of your existence. It is now required of you that you support those who are so obviously of the Light, and have already spoken and acted in ways that reveal their true selves.

We can clearly see the auric colours that emanate from each of you, and it is your signature showing the level of your spiritual development. The clearer and brighter they are, the more Light you have brought to yourself and you stand as one who has awakened. This energy flows out and about and affects those it comes in contact with, and with it you are helping others to uplift themselves. There is a collective consciousness upon Earth, and we can tell you that it has risen quite noticeably with the announcement connected with the 14th October. It has given people the promise of an event of world-shaking proportions, which has suddenly drawn so many of you together. The details are not so important as the signal it gives out, that your time has arrived to take back your freedom with our help.

The focal point for the events that are going to change your lives and way of thinking, are coming through the contact known to you as Blossom Goodchild. Others are also tuning into this energy and picking up similar information, and you can expect it to be supported to a great extent. There will however always be those that have reasons to differ, and we respect their right to interpret matters in their own way. In the ultimate there can only be the one Truth, but it sometimes takes time for it to manifest. Be intuitive and true to Self, and your own judge as to what you believe in, and you will find your place with regards to what is coming. It has to harmonise with your reasoning and if it does not, think clearly as to why not, and try to take an unbiased view of it. This is no time to be narrow-minded and restrict your ability to be open to a new way of thinking.

The rest is found here: http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/channeled%20messages/September2008/10.01.08SaLuSa.htm

[Tuza]

Good post Sanat, you have certainly given me food for thought on your post.

[Sanat]

I'm with you Sanat. Infact i had a reading two years ago and was told that a would be changing the type of work i would be doing and would be talking to many people, possibly hundreds or thousands about "things" that they would want to learn from me. This message meant nothing to me for two years. But possibly now it means a lot more. Lets hope this is true as i have great faith, not just now but in the future for all of us to awaken human kind and turn this planet around.

Henners

Yea, it is very hard for us to accept that our future is all about Goodness/Light/Love. It is almost unbelievable because our past has been so dark, and all this darkness is projected onto the future. Only by getting rid of our past can we get a clear and unbiased view of the future.

Your avatar says it all Henners...:original: I remember watching that movie and while most of my "mates" at that time thought it was just a funny cartoon, I knew in my being that it carried a very deep and profound message to a lot of people. Great movie btw:biggrin2:! If we don't expect anything everything becomes a miracle and we are never disappointed and always grateful. Life is so much more fun when you are totally crazy and open for everything:roftl:!

[viking]

Well done Sanat .... all your posts are absolutely spot on... Do not deviate as many are !! Stay focused and keep these posts rolling in ....

THIS WILL HAPPEN ...... :original:

viking

[henners]

Thanks Sanat. I love what you just posted. I had shivers down my spine as i read it.

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Sanat]

Nothing makes me happier than making others happy:biggrin2:! Imagine the excess of Energy/Love/Joy on this planet when THAT is the rule of the majority!

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Sanat]

Sanat,

I admire and respect your determination and love of adventure.

I have never said that this won't happen. I just have been concerned about the approach. Children are fearless until they are harmed. They are full of joy and blind faith and never see the danger that arises around them. They will run into the street, in front of moving cars, and be injured or killed, unless an experienced adult is there to guide them as they cross the street.
This is not a dark view of life it is a fact.

Many people have had visitations of many types of beings under various scenarios. This has been part of thie experience on this planet. There is no need for a display. 72% of persons, in America alone, know they exist. The percentage may be even higher.

My question would be what is their objective in violating quarantine and interfering with a species development? Guiding a species is one thing, but blatant interference is another.

When they land, and they will, many people will follow them blindly. This is their pre arranged destiny. However, some do have the choice this time around. The choice is made through their heart frequency and not their mind.
These are the people I am addressing.

All I am asking is that they consider discernment in all that they do.

Yes, I understand your "concern". But with all due respect. We are not children anymore. We are highly evolved beings and/or in the process of becoming that. People follow their own prejudice blindly and nothing else. They are not "violating" anything by simply showing themselves. I trust the messages that resonates with Joy/Love/Light because Truth is Joy and Love. Very simple. Read this for example:

http://www.paoweb.com/sn093008.htm

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Alexandra]

:original:

[Mark]

Ready and waiting - the tea's on the boil but you need to drink some milk if you take it....I think the Federation of Light would have thought of most things before showing themselves - like panic and so forth - don't see it a problem.

I like to have faith that this is true - us lot - humans, have certainly made a right **** up of things and I think we need to be shown that we are more then we are and that there is more to all of this.

Think about the staving billions that have prayed for something or someone to help them - this power of pray is so strong - thoughts manfesting out there in the darkness of space - they could just have been picked up and now they just maybe going to be answered.

I do believe that they are here and have been for millions of years - believe too that they are going to make their presence know and in less then two weeks before some fool presses the big red button and blows us all to kingdom come - or the like. I have more faith in them than I do in the powers that are surposedly governing us and I don't think I've met any E.T.s yet. but you never know.

[colesmommy1117]

The latest news from Blossom Goodchild from two days ago. How many of us are ready? Thoughts on this anyone?

http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com/



....honestly wish that people would realize that this is BOGUS.
sorry if i make anyone upset by saying this....

[Mark]

How do you know that it is bogus?

[Ali Quadir]

Namaste

There are two forms of negative intervention. The first is when someone comes in and breaks another persons confidence or health out of malice or in the pursuit of selfish desire. The other is when someone comes in and "solves" the problems another is experiencing and makes them feel good, in the pursuit of altruistic desire.

The first one is easy to recognize. The second one is not. The danger in the second lies in that the state of mind that materialized the problems in the first place is not solved. Only the local circumstances are solved. This way the seeds of codependency are sown. For as soon as the "rescuer" goes away the problems will arise again. It is yet another variant of addiction.

At this time mankind is not ready to encounter a truly highly evolved entity and not say "You are a God and MUST be my God." It is the most natural trigger to idolize something outside of self to fill a perceived void inside. If you doubt my words. Consider our idolization of rock stars and movie heroes.

We desire, we hope to be ready. Many of us are in fact ready. But even those that are ready will not be able to stop the madness that will ensue if 14 October comes and brings a mothership. "Thank god" the dark side will step in to restore the madness. And thus a potentially wonderful situation will be spun bad before anyone can say "Take me to your leader". This is why it cannot happen at this time. And this is why if it does happen we KNOW that it is not our beloved friends but the prophecised antichrist.

I understand the desire. I desire it with as much intensity as you do. I came from the stars like many of us here. And I've known this consciously since childhood. I have felt out of place and homesick on this planet for most of my life until I chose to accept mankind as my tribe. I know your pain.

We will experience this. But before that time comes, we know from prophecy, an avatar who comes with the pretense to solve our problems and whom many people will desire to worship as God or Gods. This is the abuser, the antichrist. And even if he does not destroy us, he will force many of us into codependency.

Cease desire and accept what is. Only without desire can we see clearly. It is the wisdom of soul that brought us to this, and we must have faith that it will bring us through. Come what may, it is by souls design.

a spiritualist is in negative pole is in faith
a spiritualist in the positive pole is in verification
This is truth. So I re-empathize this.

[Sanat]

Alexandra and Ali Quadir:

Good luck with convincing people of your views. I guess only time will tell what will happen... All I can say is that I percieve this situation very different from what you do. There is no point in further discussion between us on this matter because we are not on the same page. That is fine by me. Every opinion is of value to the whole. With regard to this; please do not feel insulted if I ignore your posts on this thread from now on, and feel very free to ignore my posts also if that suits you.

I write and share mostly for those that enjoy my posts and I hope you do the same!:original:

[jaby]

Yea, it is very hard for us to accept that our future is all about Goodness/Light/Love. It is almost unbelievable because our past has been so dark, and all this darkness is projected onto the future. Only by getting rid of our past can we get a clear and unbiased view of the future.


Well said, friend!

It's like we have to re-adjust to really believing that Goddness/Light/Love
is our destiny and our birth-right.

We SHALL have a happy ending/beginning.

I think that one thing that's happening at the moment re. the
October Event, is that we are re-programming ourselves, to
the reality of everything being very OK.

We have been programmed so thoroughly from birth to be submissive
to authority, to accept what others tell us, to live with fear and
stress.....that you can FEEL something breaking free right now as
we realise that something amazing is round the corner. What-ever
that something is remains to be seen....the power-holders who
maintain the programming are not going to let go without a struggle.
So there could be teething problems....but basically.....their time is up.

October 14 + + + BRING IT ON !!!

[NeoEmc2]

Alexandra and Ali Quadir:

Good luck with convincing people of your views. I guess only time will tell what will happen... All I can say is that I percieve this situation very different from what you do. There is no point in further discussion between us on this matter because we are not on the same page. That is fine by me. Every opinion is of value to the whole. With regard to this; please do not feel insulted if I ignore your posts on this thread from now on, and feel very free to ignore my posts also if that suits you.

I write and share mostly for those that enjoy my posts and I hope you do the same!:original:


I couldn't agree with you more on this comment Sanat. Those two have tad of a bit negative view on this matter. I'm hopeful and can only imagine good things coming from all of this. Yes of course some people will freak but that's ok. Aren't people like us the one who are supposed to help those people understand what's happening?

Sometimes I really don't understand some of the negativity on this forum concerning this event. You would think that most people reading this would be all into wanting this event to happen since they already believe in ETs, but some people are just too caught up in the negative aspects as opposed to the good.

[jaby]

Sometimes I really don't understand some of the negativity on this forum concerning this event. You would think that most people reading this would be all into wanting this event to happen since they already believe in ETs, but some people are just too caught up in the negative aspects as opposed to the good.

I think some of us must be more flexible than others...?

I say...seize the day.

(why wait for 2012....:original:)

[King Lear]

hey y'all watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2YJNs6MlHE

[Rocky_Shorz]

at the top of the page it says...

YouTube will be undergoing scheduled maintenance, starting around 6:00 pm PDT

How often do they go through maintenance?

[freespirit]

I have my spot marked out on the local hill overlooking the southern sky
And i will be doing my own channeling something along the lines of-
get me off this miserable rock !
ooh a thought just occured, i wonder if a could claim asylum ?

[Sanat]

Hello Jaby and NeoEmc2!

We have been programmed so thoroughly from birth to be submissive
to authority, to accept what others tell us, to live with fear and
stress.....that you can FEEL something breaking free right now as
we realise that something amazing is round the corner. What-ever
that something is remains to be seen....the power-holders who
maintain the programming are not going to let go without a struggle.
So there could be teething problems....but basically.....their time is up.

Yes, that is my sentiment too. All the doom/gloom scenarios comes from our collective/individual guilt/fear accumulated over thousands of years. It is being processed out of the system the natural way; by each person facing it and working through it. That is the most important part of being a socalled "lightworker"; To process our own and collective darkness out of the system by shining Light/Awareness on it. As the past is processed out, the future brightens accordingly until we as a whole reach the peak of the eternal Now in 2012. This goes for those individuals that are brave enough to allow this process to take place within them. Conditions have never been better for this kind of growth and it will become even better in the near future.

Sometimes I really don't understand some of the negativity on this forum concerning this event. You would think that most people reading this would be all into wanting this event to happen since they already believe in ETs, but some people are just too caught up in the negative aspects as opposed to the good.

Yea, everybody wants their version of the Truth to be the only truth I guess. It's just an old religious hangover. Competition, prestige etc. Everybody wants to be the one to say "I told you so" is what it really boils down to:naughty:. Like Jaby says; it really is a flexibility issue. We are all reading the same book here, but we are all on different pages, and some even read it upside down. Hehe:original:. I guess we will all finish it in due time.

Most people here has heard of all the "dire predictions" and blue beams etc. for years already. It really is old news. Is this old junk really worth giving away our energy to? Is that the horizon you want to march towards? People come screaming in on different threads: ":mfr_omg:, listen to me! I know what will happen! I am the only one that can warn you of this terrible nightmare!". At least have a sense of humor about it and lighten up a little... Perhaps people will listen then?

All I know is that a person of Truth is a lighthearted person full of Joy, Love and laughter. The same goes for channeled messages or anything you read. If you feel uplifted and joyful in your whole being while reading you are in the presence of high vibrations (truth). It does not have to be "good news" for you to feel that. I felt it all the time less than a year ago listening to people like Alex Jones. He speaks truth on his level and he has woken up millions of people to the danger. Only "problem" is that he has invested so much of himself into this that he is now stuck on that vision to the bitter end. His nightmare vision of the future has been transcended by humanity raising their vibration. Thus, what was true a year ago is no longer valid in the continuum. The battle for our future always happen in the Now.

Allrigh, let me rap this up so I can go to bed:

If you feel resisitance and disturbance inside you can take that as a sure sign that you are in the presence of non-intergrity and low vibrations (not truth). The details may vary some, but the vibration is the same... It's really not about "being most right", its about being most happy.

[Sol Invictus]

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If you feel resisitance and disturbance inside you can take that as a sure sign that you are in the presence of non-intergrity and low vibrations (not truth).[QUOTE]

Does that mean that those who felt vibrations against the world being 'round' are correct and we are on a flat planet? no it doesn't.

Some times the truth comes at an uncomfortable price, and at great disturbance to the accepted truth and norm, and will make people feel real bad about it.

Think galileo, think witches, think medicine. History is littered with people who burnt at the stake or died because the 'truth' made inner resistence and disturbances.

Not all truth comes with a 'feel good factor'.


But I totally dig your love and light message. Think positive and it'll help you massive amounts.

[Operator]

Hi,

In my last post I said that I was undecided yet on what to think about the mentioned presentation etc..

I kind of hoped that my posting at least implicitly would raise the question:

Suppose there is a big spaceship appearing on October the 14th and suppose it hovers there for a couple of days,
how is one to determine what this is ?

We can go on with pro's and con's but that won't solve anything. So taken the assumption written above ...

1. How to decide if it is alien or man-made ?
2. How to decide if it is friendly or not ?

Ad 1. The sheeple will automatically assume it's alien because it must be. Humans are not capable of this.
Ad 2. The scenario can be influenced by the PTB. IF there are 2 parties one clearly attacking the other one without the other
one fighting back THEN they MUST be the good guys.

Again, how to determine what's really happening (assuming anything happens at all) ?

History repeats itself many times .... Trojan Horse ?

[peaceandlove]

I know of many people gathering on October 14th in great hope of a 'savior' redeeming them.

Personally, I can not help this feeling that just as the NWO infiltrated the 60's Movement, that they are now infiltrating the New Age Movement and orchestrating an event to control people's minds.

Why would there be so much hype lately about ET's in the mainstream media?

And of late, it appears more chemtrails are appearing (including night-time spraying), which is required to create the screen for their project blue beam movie. Not only would this event be traumatic for children and adults alike, but would lead people astray while they continue their attempt to take-over the world.

Please don't jump all over me for my perception...it was a hard decision to share it with you.

I would love to believe that Friendly Beings from this or another Dimension have chosen to help us now, and they may soon, but my gut says this isn't it.

I hope to be wrong, as we could surely use more conscious beings on this planet.

With Peace and Love in Mind.:huglove:

[bosr]

A wolf in sheeples clothing perhaps?

[bennycog]

at the top of the page it says...

YouTube will be undergoing scheduled maintenance, starting around 6:00 pm PDT

How often do they go through maintenance?

they always do maintanence like most site do. but i guess they can add things in it to help bring youtube down if they like. which i think they might once they see how many people are waking up, and in waking up in a tidal wave of interest.

im not sure about the oct 14th but i will surely hope it happens and hope that the governments are not involved

[perhaps]

Cosmic Awareness has been a great source of information for me in the past few years and I recommend everyone read their hotline bulletin that NeoEmc2 posted the link to. I am currently reading the free 1,000 page ebook Lessons of Enlightenment, you can find it at the top of their Links page. Subscribe to the newsletter! :thumb_yello:

[crowmirror]

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[kauhane]

bill & kerry just had an interview with the creator of half past human
a website referred to lately in last few interviews
they predict first contact on october 2008
I believe Blossom's message is authentic
where's the proof?
how about one of you cynics prove to us this could not happen..again
yeah blossom could be toying with my mind ...& risking her reputation
as a channel?
by actually putting out a date that was only 2 months in the future?
not alotta time to cash in on book deals or recruit disciples for a death mission.
a forward thinking cult leader usually needs a little more time to brainwash ppl judging from recent history
besides who's the authority on ET's behavior /non-intervention policy
(I'm assuming those who participate in this forum have gotten past "do ET's
exist")
from what i understand and feel to be the right direction is that world leaders were approached in the past by the good Et's and offered peaceful means of solving our wars but were rejected
Now the ET's intend to deal directly with the public
yeah thats a tough one to wrap our brains and hearts around









Meta Art - Patterns Reveal/Conceal

Given the full and increasingly chaotic nature of modelspace, and manifesting reality, we need to take a moment to discuss design patterns and how they relate to our work. Necessarily the discussion starts with the idea of an observer, minding her own damn business, and the future.

She stands there. Universe decides to create an event in the future on the timeline that our observer stands. We can argue that the decision itself is actually the 'pre-creation' start, the actual beginning, and what comes before that is not pertinent to the image we need to convey. In our example future, the event manifesting has/is/does create 'waves of pre-creation' "disturbance"...yes, very much of the language used in Star Wars, and centered around the 'disturbance in the force' *can* be thought of as accurate. As in the image below, our observer perceives the future event as a series of 'bow waves' through the force of universe which increasingly lead back into the center of the event itself. This effect can be conceived of in much the same way as an atom (or any) bomb explodes. In the very first nano second of the explosion, the totally of the energy *has* been released, but it is still relatively small. Then as time progresses, the energy release expands until the human observer sees the famous landscape dominating mushroom cloud. But at first, the explosion event itself is small.



As the explosion (or other event) "expands" in time, its ripples go in all directions, not merely 'forward' with time. Rather the event itself has 'pre creation' impacts, as well as 'post creation' residual effects. As we are in the 'pre creation' gnawing business, it is this end of things which is of interest here.

These pre-creation waves are the 'blood' in our system. We use the words people employ in daily life and their constant shifting and treat them as a 'pulse' of the 'blood' of these 'event pre-creation waves/streams'. Make sense?

As can be noted from the illustration above, in the case of a 'big event' off in the future, it *should* be an easy enough task to 'take the pulse' of the thing, and determine what is what.

Of course, in universe nothing is simple, and in this case it is the mind numbingly complex nature of bizzillions of events all interacting which create the problems. As noted in the graphic below, *all events* send out waves in the pre-creation force, and thus all are creating 'pulse points'.



So, the poor observer gets a view of the future which resembles the jumble seen in the next graphic.



This view of patterns within patterns all interfering with each other is what makes future prediction an art.

At this point within the series, the processing patterns themselves are revealing. We note that at a meta art level, the manner in which the data types are accruing and to which entities is itself revealing of the large scale changes to manifest over the course of this year. We note that accretion patterns are heavily favoring large scale natural disaster, as well as the 'space contact' meme. Further, the 'revolution' meta data layers are growing in all entities, and may be forming a tipping point around our current target date of October, 2008. Further layers of 'revolution' are forming in sub sets across all the sciences, and within areas such as the military, and the TPTB, new contexts are being exposed within these patterns. The multiplicity of cross links continues to expand, both in the number of entities involved in any given context, as well as the depth of supporting layers of aspect/attribute sets.

At this point in the processing of all the data types (immediacy values, shorter term values, and longer term sets), the patterns of accrual are largest around 3/three central memes: dollar death, natural disasters, and 'space energies'. All three have very high visibility summations, as well as multiple points within multiple entities where [manifestation] is set to occur.

Of course, none of this helps with the details. As the complexity of filtering out language grows over time due to language itself changing, there are also problems presented by being able to note such changes at lower levels of granularity. At these levels where it may be suspected that some details might be located, it becomes even more apparent that details do not always suffice to explain the events.

This will be especially true in 2008. The detail layers suggest vast changes across the whole of the social order on this planet. And on other planets in our solar system as well. Leaving our solar neighbors out of the picture for just now, the details suggest that meta data levels of activity here on Terra will combine to produce alterations at such levels as to affect *all* of daily life in this next year. It will start and end with food production. From large scale changes in weather/climate patterns which will devastate the growing of food crops, to coast changes growing in [presence/affect] over the year, the [planet in peril] meme will dominate. Other impacts on food production will come from the expanding [dollar death] meme, and its impact on energy costs, and thus food supplies globally. Further impacts on all other parts of the social order will be felt as well.

It is possible to lift out whole layers of meaning from the concealing jumble of the patterns of the pre-creation ripples from future events. Now we can note that the very last gasp effort of the 'dominator' culture will be expressed over 2008 and 2009. These 'control freaks' otherwise variously described as 'illuminati', and 'cabal', and 'Bilderbergers', are going to be using *every* effort, that is to say, *all* their energy over these next 2/two years to attempt to [restrain] the [loss of control] which are implied by emerging future patterns. That the effort is doomed to fail will not deter them from wasting vast quantities of the planet's dwindling resources in the attempt. They are truly desperate people now. And the data sets point to the [desperation] rising at a very rapid rate from the [vernal equinox, spring] onward.

The modelspace that we use here at HPH suggests that 2008 will be a very interesting year indeed.

exactly how is it that ET's showing themselves on a mass scale
means i'm a follower or looking for a hero?
I dont believe they will do our work for us or ascend for us
what's with this "were alone on this one" belief structure some of us cling to
the rockefeller faction seemed to be OK with accepting assistance from negative ET's to control and manipulate us
why is it so tough to imagine an ET race that gives a **** about us?
so i take it you dont want any technology that could turn this around?
or any knowledge that could help close the tech gap between secret govt &
common citizens ,like free energies
or maybe a more accurate version of our history on this planet
it really doesn't matter what THEY do as much as what we do with it

[Ali Quadir]

A wolf in sheeples clothing perhaps?

:mfr_lol:
I personally was very surprised that caution and negativity are so easily equated. Let me state again that nothing would make me more happy than mankind stepping into the next phase of it's evolution. My caution is the result of warnings given to us by various prophets throughout mankind. And the common sense notion that the ET's of light wont risk global chaos.

But it's not my problem and I do not want to be a negative influence on your celebrations.

For the record I will state once more my predictions. And then we will let time sort this out. After all, it's only 2 weeks. I want to be wrong. And I want you to be right. But desire alone does not allow us to see clearly.

Most likely: Nothing will happen. We are promised a huge undeniable sighting and the media should go wild covering the story. Any form of doubt about wether it was maybe a weather balloon or a falling star means nothing happened. Our friend Blossom will receive the blame for all dissapointment and feel very bad for a long time. She deserves our love and compassion for her courage, no matter the outcome.

Second alternative: The craft will show up, and chaos will ensue. Apparently the aliens do not care about the lives of those lost in the chaos. They will proceed to "guide" us. And some "concessions" are demanded on our part. Many people will experience severe forms of mental distress in coming to terms with this new reality.
This was prophecised. I've personally known about this event since 96, I tend to take prophecy serious. The chaos and concessions are an indication of the antichrist. (So is a global currency incidentally) If this happens... Be aware.

Third alternative: The craft will show. And through some miracle that I cannot envision no chaos will ensue.

Only the third alternative can be considered a proper encounter with the positive orientation. On the third alternative I will come back to this thread and state publicly that I was wrong and that you were right...

Shall we agree to that?

I love mankind, I love you all. I do not want people to be hurt. But in the end, that is your own choice. Whatever your decision... Namaste.

[Sanat]

Does that mean that those who felt vibrations against the world being 'round' are correct and we are on a flat planet? no it doesn't.

Some times the truth comes at an uncomfortable price, and at great disturbance to the accepted truth and norm, and will make people feel real bad about it.

Think galileo, think witches, think medicine. History is littered with people who burnt at the stake or died because the 'truth' made inner resistence and disturbances.

Not all truth comes with a 'feel good factor'.

But I totally dig your love and light message. Think positive and it'll help you massive amounts.

Good points. That is the whole problem isn't it. The problem of belief system. As long as you are married to some kind of belief system your discernment of the New is always compromised. And the belief system is always from the past/old. It is possible to be open to the New without making it into a belief system. It is also possible to get rid of the old/past belief system and be continously open towards the New. To live without a belief system at all is possible and it makes you very flexible. If you buy into doom gloom scenarios you are guilty in cocreating them. It is that simple. It is OK to be aware of them though. But I think most people here are already, so no need to dwell on it in my opinion.

[jaby]

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Personally, I can not help this feeling that just as the NWO infiltrated the 60's Movement, that they are now infiltrating the New Age Movement and orchestrating an event to control people's minds.

Why would there be so much hype lately about ET's in the mainstream media?

And of late, it appears more chemtrails are appearing (including night-time spraying), which is required to create the screen for their project blue beam movie. Not only would this event be traumatic for children and adults alike, but would lead people astray while they continue their attempt to take-over the world.

Please don't jump all over me for my perception...it was a hard decision to share it with you.

I would love to believe that Friendly Beings from this or another Dimension have chosen to help us now, and they may soon, but my gut says this isn't it.

I hope to be wrong, as we could surely use more conscious beings on this planet.

First...hold onto that last thought......:original:
Thanks for sharing I'm not jumping all over you...I promise.
We've got to try and work all this out together.

Ok....I think it is safe to say that Blossom is not a member of the
NWO, who has infiltrated. So did she have the White Cloud channelling
'put' into her head? Again I think it's safe to discount this as she's been
into it for a long time. So, did the NWO start pushing the channelling out
to tie it in with their own agenda? I personally don't think so. I am on
another forum, more mainsream, and let me tell you...the 'baddies' are
going to great lengths to ridicule/dismiss the October Event.

I believe that they FEAR the October Event. People breaking free
of their programming is NOT what they want.

I have a theory about the Project Bluebeam thingy....that it MAY
have been due to kick off mid October. That is why the puzzling dates
Oct 14/15/16 have become so prominent. Either the collective
conciousness has cottoned onto it on the psychic level and is
neutralising it....before it even has chance to get going.

OR...ET/Celestials are also onto P.Bluebeam and are not going to let
it happen. Or not let it happen in the way the 'NWO' wanted it to.
The FOL could have check-mated them, good and proper.

If ETs have messed about with nuclear weapons, switching them off
and whatnot.....it would make sense that they aren't going to let
P.Bluebeam just con everyone...especially as it (PB) depended on
everyone being all scared about an alien invasion...."oooooooo help
us, help us, the nasty aliens are gonna get us" (lol)

One way or another...I think Blossom and now all the hundreds of
thousands of people who have gone...whoooosh into it (Oct 14)
may have scuppered the P.Bluebeam dastardly plot. We shall see.

Or the FOL might just like those dates...... ???? Perhaps it is a
meaninful 'time' from THEIR perspective, not ours ?

Just a few thoughts on the matter......:original:

[Sanat]

Hi,

In my last post I said that I was undecided yet on what to think about the mentioned presentation etc..

I kind of hoped that my posting at least implicitly would raise the question:

Suppose there is a big spaceship appearing on October the 14th and suppose it hovers there for a couple of days,
how is one to determine what this is ?

We can go on with pro's and con's but that won't solve anything. So taken the assumption written above ...

1. How to decide if it is alien or man-made ?
2. How to decide if it is friendly or not ?

Ad 1. The sheeple will automatically assume it's alien because it must be. Humans are not capable of this.
Ad 2. The scenario can be influenced by the PTB. IF there are 2 parties one clearly attacking the other one without the other
one fighting back THEN they MUST be the good guys.

Again, how to determine what's really happening (assuming anything happens at all) ?

History repeats itself many times .... Trojan Horse ?

Yes, these are important questions. But there will be from that point on (meaning the point in time when this manifests which could be some later date and not necessarily the 14th allthough I think it will be that date because otherwise a lot of mistrust would happen as things are now) a lot of people ("star kids" etc.) will start to be in telepathic contact with the ship and other ships and they will spread the message of peace to people around them and prepare the world for further contact.

Also, those that would try to twist this event have more than enough to keep themselves afloat these days. The dark cabal is collapsing in on themselves as we speak. That is what this financial crisis is all about. A new and integrous system and people are ready behind the scenes to replace the old. People tend to think they must do everything themselves. There are a lot of "ground crews" at work in this process.

We have all seen how a huge flock of birds can suddenly move in another direction instantly/simultaneously seemingly without any center to the origin of the movement. It just happens like a wave going throuhg the whole flock. Well, guess what. Humanity is not any different from that as we are all connected. But no one really has the overview to see this (except the ETs perhaps). That wave of changing direction has already just begun. When it really kicks in things will move very fast and the world will be transformed in a short amount of time.

The whole point of this whole operation is that history is NOT going to be allowed to repeat itself. It is our job to make sure that does not happen. That is what the collapse of the old and the arising of the New is all about. Mankind as a whole has never functioned on such a high vibration or "level of consciousness" before in known history. This is also confirmable using David Hawkins method (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=16) and scale (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=14) (for those interested in my personal calibrations on relevant issues look here (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=793)). This means the old is transcended and we are moving steadily into New and unknown territory were anything can happen. Looking at old charts and maps does not help when you have entered a totally new/unkown territory. Then it is better to be alert and keep your eyes open to what is happening in front of you.

I really don't think there will be such massive panic as many seem to think. The ETs know what they are doing. They know where not to appear, and where to appear. For many this event will be something they see on TV/Inet or hear from other sources. The energy of the ship will also have a calming effect on everybody that sees it. Most people can recognize love even on this planet. The question really is: Are you ready/brave enough to be open and receptive or are you putting up your defensive shield before it has even happened?

[Sanat]

10-14-08 discussed on Dutch Television:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClEHhJ7l3qY

[starman]

I actually believe that this month the ET's will officially make themselves known to the world.

Just look how everything fits together. First of all we have Blossom Goodchilds announcement (not a prediction like many people believe). And then we have the conformation on that from other channelers (some that truly know that it is going to happen and some that just are riding the wave of fame).

What would happen if the ET's did show up? The people would demand answers from the government, right?

To get the answers from the government, there would have to be some kind of initiative to make it happen, right?

There is! Yesterday the Paradigm Research Group started the most important project of its 12 year of existence. The "million fax on washington" project, wich is THE initiative people will turn to if the ET's arrive the 14th of October.

Million fax on washington (http://www.faxonwashington.org/)

It all fits together.

And on a more peculiar note, the campaign for getting the "million fax on washington" project out to the public lasts up to the 14th of October.


Event schedule (http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/speaking&eventschedule.html)

And what is even more strange is that two just days after the 14th, there will be a event held called "2008 Culture of Contact Festival" (http://cultureofcontact.squarespace.com/), what are the odds!?

All coincidences? I think not.

[TAXMASTER]

As I stated in earlier posts, I remember the y2k fiasco. We had people in our town that held a candlelight vigil on midnight at 12-31-99 downtown expecting the 2nd coming. I wasn't there but I am sure they had some reason that christ did not return. Then there was a big deal about all the planets being aligned on 5-5-2000. This was big news on the psychic arena, books were written, tons of postings etc. When that didn't happen some said that it was supposed to be 5-5-2001 instead....a mis read. Oh well, those guys kinda went underground for a few years and now they are probably the main cogs in the 2012 wheel.

Am I blind, I don't think so. I believe a lot of the whistleblower testimony on camelot but not all of it. In fact, they all cannot agree with each other on what the facts are. Now I am wondering what the excuse will be on October 14. I can see it now, Since the world wasn't ready, they decided to not show up.... or maybe they only show themselves to certain people who believe in them... or maybe that they decided to just contact those channelers instead of a face to face.... or that they did hover in the air unseen by us because they were too high and the government covered it up or that the government used some secret cloaking device to make them invisible.

What ever the reason, we will find out here by the channelers I am sure then everyone can give each other feely good hugs and plan for the next big galactic event. (sounds cynical but not meant that way, just my own dry comedy...sorry)

I will say one thing, if it does happen I have some big apologies to give and I will gladly do so.

Namaste'

ps nutz, Namaste is a greeting that means "i recognize and respect you and acknowledge your inner light"

[Sanat]

urbe et orbe:

I sure hope nobody quotes that if they plan to answer you:original:. I suggest you actually read the thread before you copy/paste a wall of text in here like that. We are all aware of "blue beam" and it is nothing new to any of us. If you want to post here it would be nice to hear your own take on things. I doubt anyone will bother to read that gigantic article you just posted... In fact I kind of hope the mods will delete it...

[NeoEmc2]

Anyone who was sold on the Y2K thing just didn't know at the time how computers worked. Y2K was just a big load of crap. I can't believe anyone actually believed anything having to do with that. Also to compare that event with October 14th is like comparing apples to oranges. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

[nagualton]

Leave Oct 14, think about now. What the time is anyway?

[NeoEmc2]

urbe et orbe:

I doubt anyone will bother to read that gigantic article you just posted... In fact I kind of hope the mods will delete it...

For real.

[nagualton]

Is it connected with: what is life?

[THE eXchanger]

urbe et orbe:

I sure hope nobody quotes that if they plan to answer you:original:. I suggest you actually read the thread before you copy/paste a wall of text in here like that. We are all aware of "blue beam" and it is nothing new to any of us. If you want to post here it would be nice to hear your own take on things. I doubt anyone will bother to read that gigantic article you just posted... In fact I kind of hope the mods will delete it...

urbe et orbe -- eXcellent post

Sanat -- know this, a "doubt" is NOT a "know" ;)

When you "know" something...
that is when it passes the "real" test,
and, becomes a truth

they are already there in the skiies,
do you ever stop, to ask to see them ???
they will present themselves to you,
if you are ready !!!

getting yourself ready--is a key ingredient to why you are here

it all starts...right inside of you

brightest blessings

susan
the eXchanger

[TAXMASTER]

I understand the same thing happened when the year 1000 turned, every one thought christ would return. all the new agers jumped in and the only one that was happy was the factorys that made generators. The 5-5-2000 was just like this. some of you remember, some of you did not have computers then or internet access, and some of you bought into it just like I was. That is why I am skeptical. It was supposed to be a big deal, the planets were all aligned, that was going to cause a pole shift and the aliens were supposed to save us all. They must have showed up secretly and saved us without us knowing it ....I guess.

Namaste'

[Operator]

Hi,
Again, how to determine what's really happening (assuming anything happens at all) ?

History repeats itself many times .... Trojan Horse ?

Hi, still I see people fight over 'is' or 'is not' going to happen ?
How about the question I posted earlier ? If it is going to happen how do we prepare to discern WHAT it is you see ?

What would CONVINCE you that these are benevolent aliens ? What kind of test should it pass for you ?

Cheers

[nagualton]

Identify yourself with what you see.

[THE eXchanger]

?
How about the question I posted earlier ? If it is going to happen how do we prepare to discern WHAT it is you see ?
What would CONVINCE you that these are benevolent aliens ? What kind of test should it pass for you ?
Cheers
A true operator, they know...they really do..
your post, was an eXcellent one :thumb_yello:
sometimes, when going through information,
it is a good idea, to read it, three times,
three times, is the charm ;)
:flowers2::flowers2::flowers2:

brightest blessings
susan~white lotus star
the eXchanger

[Sanat]

Hi, still I see people fight over 'is' or 'is not' going to happen ?
How about the question I posted earlier ? If it is going to happen how do we prepare to discern WHAT it is you see ?

What would CONVINCE you that these are benevolent aliens ? What kind of test should it pass for you ?

Cheers

Turn it around and ask: What can we do to convince them that we are benevolent humans?

Can we do this by projecting out all our fears/mistrusts/judgements upon them? Or can we do this by being open/receptive, yet still alert and aware? Being open does not negate being aware and alert. Rather the opposite. The benevolent aliens has nothing to prove to us really. But we have a lot to prove to them by how we recieve and handle this whole thing. Both now that it has been announced, and not least; when it actually happens. To improve ourselves should be the focus no matter what happens.

Don't expect "positive" or "negative", just simply remain open. If they are negative blue beam etc. then I guess we are all doomed. So no need to worry about that really. If they are benevolent as so many has announced and channeled etc. then I guess this will be a really fun experience!:original: If nothing at all happens that date or any other date, then I guess we are all suckers:mfr_lol:!

[PTTurboe]

Project Bluebeam.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CaTgOSHbBEI

Where do you think that the $2.3T in missing Pentagon money went?

The Phoenix Lights were a trial. Good new documentary about that now in Blockbusters.

Watch it - see how the people describe the "lights" on the craft. Classic hologram descriptions.

The good ones are not going to come and rescue us. We have to turn the tide ourselves. It is ALL ABOUT FREE WILL. Keep that in mind. Once we do that spiritually, they will help us.

You all are about to get hood winked...

[PTTurboe]

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml

""Anyone investigating so-called 'channelling' phenomena right now would be wise to take this area of research into consideration. It will be noted that those who think of themselves as 'channellers' has escalated rapidly since this type of research was conducted. It is uncanny how similar their messages are, despite which entity they claim to be their source of divine guidance. It would suggest any individual considering the credibility of channelled information should be discerning and critically evaluate where the message they are receiving originates, and if the messages are specifically beneficial to the new world order. ""

[Operator]

Don't expect "positive" or "negative", just simply remain open. If they are negative blue beam etc. then I guess we are all doomed. So no need to worry about that really. If they are benevolent as so many has announced and channeled etc. then I guess this will be a really fun

Thanks Sanat (and Susan),

I will clarify my question to make sure it is understood ....
They may ACT to be benevolent ... but there is a lot of trickery going on. The more I read about Bluebeam the more I understand that
the scenario will not be some sort of B-movie where the plot is clear after the first minute ....

If it IS a Bluebeam trick the people behind it are very clever. They know we are talking ... and they let us ...
Because they know we're talking they also dis-inform us ...

It may be such that you need quick decisions ...

I know from experience that even events that you expect to happen may unfold so quickly that time to reconsider things
will not be on your side. You need to prepare such events in advance and have a plan to react properly.
The time to prepare is now .....

There are many clever people here. Some discussion on this would be more fruitful than fighting over the yes and the no.

Cheers

[Namaste']

"[QUOTE] "These people in power will do anything just to control our minds and i would not put it past them if they were planning this in order to take our eyes off the economy and the problems associated with it..."

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13522

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqIFoBXGizc

[perhaps]

Taxmaster has a very good point, there have been dates almost ANNUALLY in the last 20 years that have been made a big deal of and ended up being thankfully nothing. I think for some people this discourages them from ever reading channeled material again, whereas I still like to read a wide variety of channeled and non-channeled material all the time.
Often I think these big dates have been announced to provoke a stirring or shifting in human consciousness. Perhaps the point of this October announcement is that suddenly many more people will be watching the skies, thinking about higher consciousness, that sort of thing?

[Ali Quadir]

It is like I said. These entities are supposed to be evolved advanced beyond us. And they have been near us for thousands of years. So I assume they know us intimately. Therefore they are able to predict the events that would unfold if they introduce themselves as is promised at least as well as we do.

Since they are higher evolved and technologically superior there are alternatives that they can pursue. If intervention is required. Intervention can be accomplished covertly. The reason they reveal to all the people is because they want all the people to be aware.

They will have made a moral judgment whether the risk of damage they cause is acceptable compared to the beneficial effects. And they will have decided on the wisest course of action measured against their moral judgement.

If this unfolds, we will be able to experience the effects first hand. We can already make predictions like I did. Mankind is not a mystery.

So the events that are to unfold are a direct measurement of their moral code. If mass panic erupts and chaos ensues then they will have predicted this and found this acceptable. Ask your self who benefits most from the events that occur. And you know whose side they are on.

Whatever they say, do or claim to be is irrelevant when their actions speak clearly for them.

To answer your question. I would be satisfied if they handle us with the utmost delicacy and care. If they minimize contact to what is required to minimize the shock. If they explain through channels without immediately exposing themselves completely. And if their actions do not result in chaos and pain for mankind. I would not be completely trusting yet until I meet them face to face and am able to "read" them..

In any relationship you require a period of building trust. Why would this be different?

[Myra]

...I am not from michigan but from now on show me.

Isn't that Missouri? :wink2: Just teasin' ya anyway! :bleh:

[TAXMASTER]

I would like to know who has taken my salutation and used it as a name for posting. I am the only one I know that uses the term Namaste' with an aprostophe on the end. It has a personal meaning for me. The term is universal but the aprostophe is something I added for a reason that is unknown to the public. I end all my postings with it.

Yes it is true that the channelers have the same new age message that has been around for years. It's also the same channelers that predict all the non-events that we sit around and wait to happen. They hide behind their screen names and when the event fails to happen, they either fade from the sight or possibly just change screen names and start it all over again. They sure get a lot of attention.. hum wonder if that is the motivation. One thing is for sure, they are very protective of each other. If you make enough predictions, occassionally you might hit one, or at least come close enough that you can call it a hit.

Namaste'

[TAXMASTER]

Isn't that Missouri? :wink2: Just teasin' ya anyway! :bleh:

yeah, I knew it was one of those "M" states!

Namaste'

[Reveling John]

I see four possibilities.

1. It is untrue.

2. It is true and

a. The visitors are malicious.

b. The visitors are benign.

c. It is staged by humans.

If it is untrue there will be a lot of 'channels' with egg on their face. (A long time ago, prophets who were wrong would be stoned to death - I guess the people didn't like being deceived back then)

If it is true, I am not sure how we will determine the visitor's intent or whether it is staged.


I'd like to refer to the channel medium, Blossom Goodchild's (http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/index.html?page=BGoct14.html) own urgings:

"It is SO important in ALL that you read and hear to ....

LISTEN TO THE TRUTH IN YOUR HEART.
AT ALL TIMES ... THROUGHOUT THESE TIMES."

Our ability to evaluate this event is correlative to the extent that we are connected with our inner voice (feeling). Just listen to what your insides (intuitive insides) are telling you.

[lordoza]

i wonder why anyone didnt tried to question this date to some proffessional remote viewers
i think they may have the answer or at least some hints/glimpses of information.

sorry for my bad english
:)

[Myra]

Something that caught my attention was the statement involving 'different' looking rainbows:

«We ask you to think of rainbows. There will be many that begin to appear in the next few weeks. Rainbows that seem different form the ones that you are familiar with.»

Bizarre colorful (luminous/glowing) cloud phenomenon in the sky was observed about 30 mins before the May 12, 2008 Sichuan earthquake took place. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKMTSDzU1Z4)

And China blames the US HAARP Program For Catastrophic Earthquakes! (http://redskynews.com/?p=167)

The Galactic Federation of Light? HAARP? Irisation? Earthquake lights? :shocked:

This comes to my mind as well.

As much as I would love the Oct. 14th visit to be true I'm not so sure. I'm leaning more towards probably not. Isn't the source of this information only one person? And sometimes channelers have been wrong.

What concerns me more is that the NWO crowd could use this date for their Project Bluebeam op. Not that I'm going to worry too much about that either, but if enough people believed in the Oct. 14th visit I could see them trying to pull that off.

I wish that the Galactic Federation Oct. 14th scenario would be true. But I just don't feel that it is.

[TAXMASTER]

i wonder why anyone didnt tried to question this date to some proffessional remote viewers
i think they may have the answer or at least some hints/glimpses of information.

sorry for my bad english
:)

The question has already been answered by david wilcock. (see my previous post) if i were to believe any channeler, it would be him.

Namaste'

[Professor Nordheim]

FALSE FLAG UFO ATTACK PLAN ON THE WORLD! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5_LNZF8l2Y)

[giddy]

Something that caught my attention was the statement involving 'different' looking rainbows:

«We ask you to think of rainbows. There will be many that begin to appear in the next few weeks. Rainbows that seem different form the ones that you are familiar with.»


I've been reading this thread with great interest, I don't know which side of the debate i fall but reading the above quote reminded me of a news story a couple of weeks ago about an 'upside down Rainbow..http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/16/earainbow116.xml

[Professor Nordheim]

I've been reading this thread with great interest, I don't know which side of the debate i fall but reading the above quote reminded me of a news story a couple of weeks ago about an 'upside down Rainbow..http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/16/earainbow116.xml

Very interesting phenomena giddy!