new half past human report(webbot)

[ophiuchus]

take a deep breath. sept. 28th webbot reports ,"get ready to go camping for life". then they proceed to provide you with a long list of what you need. i will keep close tabs on the daily report for the next 10 days. oh yea, and if there are aliens they're probably not comming here to sing "cum bye ya".

[MartyMcFailure]

thats in the subscription report? what else does it say?? i take the web bot guys pretty seriously

[ChooseYourLifeNow]

Could you (or anyone who gets them) paste the subscription report here in the forum? I would love to read it!

Love you All,

CYLNow

[raoulduke666]

take a deep breath. sept. 28th webbot reports ,"get ready to go camping for life".

Hmm, not sure what to make of this except "run for the hills!" Of course I am a little bit skeptical, but really we won't know anything for the next couple weeks. What other info in the report did it state?

[thedarke]

Okay, well share the list.......not to be rude by any means, but don't just post a tidbit of information and claim that there is a list of supplies needed and keep people guessing. Please share this list and ANY additional information you have. Thanks.

[Myra]

Could you (or anyone who gets them) paste the subscription report here in the forum? I would love to read it!

Love you All,

CYLNow

I sure am interested in reading it too! Yikes.

[lohiaaditya]

Please do not post the report, its unethical. Its someone elses income. I dont want to sound overly ethical but that is a fact that if you post it it would hurt the income of the people who produce it.

[addalight]

I would be interested to know why they are saying this and if they have a time frame. I already have my own lists. What is the threat?

[Book]

Post redacted. Poster was unaware that the OP was referring to a web site that contained subscriber-only content.

Go well,
Book

[Sarahmay]

Wow, the subscription is really expensive! And it sounds like the reports are really long! Can someone just give us Cliff's notes, rather than just prepare to "camp for life"? It is too cold to camp where I live!

[addalight]

You might want to link to George? Ure's site. I have to go. later. Keep us updated.

[Myplanet2]

It's nothing new. just posted in a sensational way. It's still Oct 7 for the life changing incident, and Advice on how to get as well prepared as possible for all contingencies that can be planned for.

Alarmism.

[John aka#404]

HPH guys were on C2C week ago Sunday.

http://www.archive.org/details/HalfPastHumaninterview

Good listen and much better than trying to get people to post reports unethically. I want to emphasize unethically.


www.urbansurvival.com (http://www.urbansurvival.com)

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[thedarke]

I'm not looking for the full report or for anyone to do anything unethically, but I too would like the cliff note's, which would not be unethical. I listened to the radio interview, but it seems the recent report is a day or two old and if it's new news, then it should be shared. Maybe we could get the guys from halfpasthuman and urbansurvival to give us tid bits daily. Just a thought.

[Suriel]

HalfpastHuman is a SCAM. $280.00. Yeah Right. I don't think many people can afford to read this report. And it is mainly going to scare you anyway.
Which is the whole point. Curiosity+Fear=Paid Subscription

Don't fall for the negativity folks.

And if something does happen, I'm sure you can scan the web for clues for FREE.

Peace.

[Lance]

George Ure didn't mention HPH, but today he did mention 'camping for life'

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm

[ralok_j]

Is the failure of the bailout bill the catalyst of the events?

[Mark Stephenson]

HalfpastHuman is a SCAM. $280.00. Yeah Right. I don't think many people can afford to read this report. And it is mainly going to scare you anyway.
Which is the whole point. Curiosity+Fear=Paid Subscription

Don't fall for the negativity folks.

And if something does happen, I'm sure you can scan the web for clues for FREE.

Peace.

I couldn't agree more. Total fearmongering and a lack of critical discernment from people who seem to actually want this to all be true.

[quest]

web bot report = wrong party's agenda

[John aka#404]

HalfpastHuman is a SCAM. $280.00. Yeah Right. I don't think many people can afford to read this report. And it is mainly going to scare you anyway.
Which is the whole point. Curiosity+Fear=Paid Subscription

Don't fall for the negativity folks.

And if something does happen, I'm sure you can scan the web for clues for FREE.

Peace.

I couldn't agree more. Total fearmongering and a lack of critical discernment from people who seem to actually want this to all be true.


I agree as well, but would like to add.... for me www.urbansurvival.com (http://www.urbansurvival.com) is a weather forecasting site. HPH is the computer retrieving the data for the interpretation of the forecasts. I watch and listen to urban survival like I would the radio telling me about a storm approaching.

Debating about intent here to me is time not well-spent. Discerning the weather warning and being responsible is more important.

-John aka#404

[Shellie]

This is the ONLY info I would trust for a "head for the hills" scenario. I don't know exactly what info is on Web Bot's report, but this is as good as any:

http://www.survivaltopics.com/

and http://www.bushcraft.se

[Steve_G]

This was posted on Project Camelot:

"16 July

• An extremely important report has recently been published by Linda Howe on her excellent Earthfiles website. The report is available here, is copyrighted, and is available to her subscribers. We present a summary of it below in our own words. ..."

I don't think presenting a summary of copyrighted material is unethical, and neither did Bill and Kerry when they posted this. The full report was linked and the option to subscribe was available to those wishing to read it.

Surely we can do the same here?

[ET137]

i wish you every joy in your connections.

[2infinityandbeyond]

Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)

Word is, a nuke is going to hit. I wont tell you where unless you pay me. Its a loose analogy but but it gives an example of just how unethical it can be to be ethical.

This year is proving to be very stressfull.

[John aka#404]

Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)

I do not see the information underneath Urban Survival as being any more enlightening than what you can read for free.

Clif has said it time and time again... the information is for those that have enough foresight as well as the funds to appreciate the additional information.

I am not here to defend HPH or Urban Survival... I just wanted to say that

if INFORMATION is only accessible via a registered account and somebody just goes and posts it, I don't question the company charging for the registration... I question the person posting irresponsibly.

If you think it is irresponsible of HPH charging the fee they charge, contact them. Debating it here is fruitless as well as not within the realm of Avalon's message.

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[Suriel]

Okay friends. Here is the update (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message614121/pg1):

Posted 9/23/08 on godlikeproductions.com (http://www.godlikeproductions.com)

Don't know if this was posted yet, but here goes:

Running to Keep Up With Events

Since Cliff and I were on CoastToCoastAM overnight, events have started to unroll at breakneck speed. So here's a summary of what has changed since we were on:

In our interview last night, Cliff pointed out that the latest output from modelspace seems to indicate that the meltdown in October will likely split into two components. A financial aspect which will hit about October 7th and then a 'military' oriented event(s) that will happen about October 15th. Then, this morning's editions of the New York Sun headline that "Spies Warn that Al Qaida Aims for October Surprise."

The next thing up was a phone call from m,y tax attorney/CPA who has been keeping track on the back of an envelope - he says that as far as he can figure, the cost of all the bailouts willk total about $1.8 trillion dollars, but in his estimate (remember, he's only a tax attorney and CPA - not an advisor to any of the players) the real total could run upwards of $5-trillion dollars when all is said and done. The problem he outlines is this: When you read up on how much the bailout will cost bear in mind that the biggest players have not yet indicasted their feelings on the matter. And those 'biggest players' are whom? The foreigners who will end up loaning us to money to do our bailout. His point boils down to this: We're already borrowing about $2-billion a day to keep America solvent (we've been living on credit for years and that's our balance of trade deficit calculated daily. So now, if you are a foreigner investing in America, you have to ask youself this question: If we're already lending the USA $2-billion a day, should we lend them an additiona $1.8 trillion - or maybe two or three times that in order to bail them out? In the end, my tax attorney/CPA pal says nope, someone's going to blink, global competitive currency devaluations will be "Game on!" and the dollar will get slammed. Of course, as a long term reader, you'll recall that when when the dollar is devalued internationally, the prices we pay domestically for things will seem to go up. Thus, if the dollar's value drops by half, the prices we pay on the global market for flat screen teevees, oil, and other 'necessities of life' will double. Gold is up over $25 an ounce the last time I looked and a doubling of gold would put it near enough to $1,500 an ounce..

Then my pal "The Bond Dude" called to say "You missed it - ever so slightly." Oh-oh...being in no condition being sleep deprived, I made him explain slowly what I missed: "When you're talking about the Private Sector Coinvestment idea, that's on the front end - before the government money goes in, so that as soon as the private guys make their slice, they will take out the public 90%. In other words, it's a buy-in on the front-end, not the back...". OK, that's making sense.

OK, now back to 20+ voicemails, a hundred emails, and then maybe I can get some client work done...

In our discussion of how the webbot project orf www.halfpasthuman.com works, the following graphic is useful to consider. Think of an 'event' in our immediate future - such as the 'life changer' that shows up in modelspace on or around October 7th, 7:10 UTC or so, as a rock thrown into a still pond. We'll call it the "Event" in this drawing:

Unfortunately, the future is never so simple as a single thought, a single rock. Nope. The Universe makes things unfathomably complicated by not dumping in 'an event' this time - it's more (as Cliff puts it) like a series of gravel trucks are backed up and dumped into the pond, day after day for the next six months. That, in itself should give you some ideas about investing in diesel, buying hiking shoes, having stored foods, and so forth. Whatever it is we're seeing in model space, life is about to go through a dramatic change of 'order'.

The highlights are Massive change in financial structures (ongoing, see next item) then whatever the October 7th events are, then a series of release or emotions events till March 2009. Something with a lot of 'military' aspect to it on October 15th, or thereabout. Then one big earthquake, likely Pacific Northwest around December 10th, with another one within days (Dec. 12th in model space).

Then we get rising discontent/talk of rebellion/revolution through the spring, the Summer of Hell in 2009, and strange disappearances - but it ain't the Rapture - think more like 'the harvesting' starts in late summer 2009.

Me? I'll be going on an anorexic diet. Don't want to look like a main course come 2010.

[link to www.urbansurvival.com]

If I find a more recent update I will let you know. Just search the net using the keywords: web bot predictions update october surprise 2008

That will feed this thread with more curiosity. Good Luck.

:)

[ChooseYourLifeNow]

I am definitely interested in hearing more about the disappearances in 2009 that they mentioned on that coast to coast interview.

Who/what kind of people will be disappearing? They mentioned some of the "powers that be" disappearing? Are we going to be eaten? What's the deal? Any interpretations on this?


CYLNow

[Suriel]

This disappearing people made me reflect on the video with Dan Burisch about the alien technology gadgets. I think it may correspond to that material regarding opening up some kind of gateway.

This reminds me of Stargate SG1? Hmmm...?

[Informationmatrix]

HalfpastHuman is a SCAM. $280.00. Yeah Right. I don't think many people can afford to read this report. And it is mainly going to scare you anyway.
Which is the whole point. Curiosity+Fear=Paid Subscription

Don't fall for the negativity folks.

And if something does happen, I'm sure you can scan the web for clues for FREE.

Peace.

Sauriel is a wise man.

[John aka#404]

... This reminds me of Stargate SG1? Hmmm...?

Ever since I saw Stargate the movie (never really followed the TV series) I wondered if it was the real piercing the masses a bit.

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[Myplanet2]

HalfpastHuman is a SCAM. $280.00. Yeah Right. I don't think many people can afford to read this report. And it is mainly going to scare you anyway.
Which is the whole point. Curiosity+Fear=Paid Subscription

Don't fall for the negativity folks.

And if something does happen, I'm sure you can scan the web for clues for FREE.

Peace.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and assume you didn't listen to the coast to coast interview with the Half past Human guys, and probably haven't checked out the half past human website, which says people should NOT subscribe as it's way too much money, and only for entertainment purposes.

[J-Bird]

Clearly this "web bot" program has been used before in the past. Does anyone know the accuracy rating? Previous Predictions that came true or were remotely accurate? Or is there any proof that the program can do any kind of predicting at all? In other words how much credence do we give this?

[J-Bird]

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and assume you didn't listen to the coast to coast interview with the Half past Human guys, and probably haven't checked out the half past human website, which says people should NOT subscribe as it's way too much money, and only for entertainment purposes.

I don't like the sound of that...

[Arcane Son]

I don't like the sound of that...

I think it's just to cover their butts from a legal persepctive saying it's for "entertainment purposes:.

[J-Bird]

I think it's just to cover their butts from a legal persepctive saying it's for "entertainment purposes:.

Perhaps you're right. Interesting choice of words nonetheless.

[Sherab]

I'm ready to starve to death. Bring it.

[Nicomachus]

[QUOTE=2infinityandbeyond;32226]Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)


I guess what George provides to his subscribers is just additioanl information added to the main agenda. In the latest newsletter for example, he provided an extensive list of things for a 'life time camping.' If I were to make the list myself, it would have taken weeks and weeks of extensive research. The newsletter saves our research labor and time. Inspecting trough the list I found a key to the ultimate survival, that?, i can't tell. Because it's something YOU should discover for yourself. If it wasn't YOU, you won't find it.

I'm not an advocate of HPH or anything either, but one thing sure is 'good amount of preparation time' for us living through this historical times of trouble.

It may not be a good idea of questioning 'ethics' of George Ure. Simply because a negative surmise or a judgement on one's ethical base wouldn't make you ethically better person.

Good luck to you all.

[lohiaaditya]

I totally agree with Number 404.

I have had personal experiences with Cliff. He is a great guy. If I know one person in the world wouldnt jump at the first sight of money it will have to be Cliff. I stress I speak through personal experience.

He and George have stressed countless times that the subscription is only for wealthy who can afford 'entertainment' and not for the people who have less money. I suggest people to listen to his interviews before coming to a judgement. Go to his website halfpasthuman.com The biggest message you ll see is 'flee, your sanity is at risk'. money makers wouldnt say that. Again, I was actually trying my best to avoid this thread but it got the better of me. Since I know Cliff a little from email exchanges, I can gurantee you beyond a shadow of a doubt that this person is not in it for money. If he was, he woudl have been a multi millionaire already.

It would be okay in my opinion to debate the validity of the technology, but not of the people making it. If you work, as your days job by making a technology. Would you give it for free and not make any money and beg on the street for living? No is what I guess the answer is. And he does give very important stuff for free at urbansurvival.com You didnt get the 7th OCT from subcriptions. It was there for free on the other site.

My point is without knowing someone it is unfair to criticize them.

[rustanddust]

Then we get rising discontent/talk of rebellion/revolution through the spring, the Summer of Hell in 2009, and strange disappearances - but it ain't the Rapture - think more like 'the harvesting' starts in late summer 2009.

oh my oh my......you know what this is about right :D, hey you guys.....?

[Morgan]

Clearly this "web bot" program has been used before in the past. Does anyone know the accuracy rating? Previous Predictions that came true or were remotely accurate? Or is there any proof that the program can do any kind of predicting at all? In other words how much credence do we give this?

No idea about the accuracy rating, and I have only been paying attention to it since PC first mentioned it. But HPH claim to have predicted nine-eleven, Katrina, the black out in '03, and possibly the recent quake in China? Or maybe it was the tsunami in Asia, or maybe both. These things were either mentioned in the Coast to Coast interview or on the HPH/Urban Survival websites. Memory is dodgy. So...

HOWEVER

They also stated on C2C that they've been spectacularly wrong in the past, too.

[Carol]

Good gad! :mfr_omg: "the Summer of Hell in 2009, and strange disappearances - but it ain't the Rapture - think more like 'the harvesting' starts in late summer 2009" this sounds rather ominous. I wonder what is really going on here?

[LiquidSwordz]

take a deep breath. sept. 28th webbot reports ,"get ready to go camping for life". then they proceed to provide you with a long list of what you need. i will keep close tabs on the daily report for the next 10 days. oh yea, and if there are aliens they're probably not comming here to sing "cum bye ya".


Well, i believe in Webbot because it is the most LOGICAL, and perfect system ever built. It generates things in a unique way that already exist on this planet. Not no psychic assumption, or some unknown philosophy that a dumb human would come up with. It is not like a human being, which can act and tell you lies, manipulating you for your money.

I think we all here should take Webbot more seriously, rather than some fake prophets who spew out propaganda! We dont know who the hell is telling the truth nowadays, but you will know for damn sure that Webbot will at LEAST give you an honest statistical view of what lies ahead.

Of all the reading i have done, my intuition has been telling me to stock up on guns, guns, and more guns! No food, medicine or water! The powers are preparing me mentally, that this new war is not about love and peace, but about pure aggression to survive!

[clarkkent]

Of all the reading i have done, my intuition has been telling me to stock up on guns, guns, and more guns! No food, medicine or water! The powers are preparing me mentally, that this new war is not about love and peace, but about pure aggression to survive!

wow, are you serious? i dont know how you made it to this forum, you might feel more at home on prisonplanet.com or infowars.com.

heres an interesting link on backwards speech on the HPH radio.
very weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crefGu2vJdA

[Lance]

Ahh if theres a chance everything may change for the worse is it really ethical to charge a person so they can be informed? (which may in fact save their life)

Word is, a nuke is going to hit. I wont tell you where unless you pay me. Its a loose analogy but but it gives an example of just how unethical it can be to be ethical.

This year is proving to be very stressfull.


Come on my friend, that is a total BS analogy. The Time Monks (whom I did subscribe to for a brief period of time and made quite a bit of useless 'fun ticket' FRN's off of tuggin'me'forelock') say they don't know what they are doing. If someone WANTS to pay for their analysis, as I did. The output of data is limited by an end user agreement. I have worked in situations where the data I held in my hand (not knowing the actual data) was 'secure'. I would not exchange that data with competitors.
Thwy don't claim to know anything so anyone whom pays them does so at their own risk. They can predict trends and events quite nicely with 20/20 hindsight. Except in the metals market......

[Operator]

Not no psychic assumption, or some unknown philosophy that a dumb human would come up with.

If I listened carefully enough to what Cliff told about it ... it's exactly this what it's based on !
Humans are considered to be more psychic than they realize themselves and everything they say is considered as input for the web bot.

How much intent is involved when people 'say' things is debatable ... of course.

The only thing to proof this technology works (more or less) is based on statistics of accuracy so far.
I regard the outcome as 'indicators' not as truth to rely on ...

I am afraid you're psychic yourself too (I am NOT implying that you're a dumb human that comes up with an unknown philosophy ):

"Who lives by the sword dies by the sword" ... you indeed confirmed the future unless you get rid of the guns !

I deliberately chose my avatar .. it shows a military guy WITHOUT a weapon.
Considering military supposed to be here for DEFENSE the best weapon is using your eyes, ears and a sensible mind.

Use your senses ... all of them !

[quest]

if you look at the predicted events, they all could have been planned ahead.
in my oppinion these are no predections, but pre knowledge, just announcements.

[Operator]

if you look at the predicted events, they all could have been planned ahead.
in my oppinion these are no predections, but pre knowledge, just announcements.

Ok, it's interesting ... might get philosophical ...
What's the difference between prediction and pre knowledge ?

If I have the intention to spill a glass of water onto the ground I can pre-dict it because I have pre knowledge.
The future does not exist yet ... only my intention.

I think there must be intention by someone otherwise this future will not be 'created'.

If someone else 'senses' my intention and intentionally places a bucket on the ground he changes the outcome ...

Isn't his just what it is all about ?
Without intention (by whomever) there will be no future (event).

It makes us all 'manipulators' in time. The collective 'consciousness' at the helm.

Cheers

[quest]

Ok, it's interesting ... might get philosophical ...
What's the difference between prediction and pre knowledge ?

If I have the intention to spill a glass of water onto the ground I can pre-dict it because I have pre knowledge.
The future does not exist yet ... only my intention.

I think there must be intention by someone otherwise this future will not be 'created'.

If someone else 'senses' my intention and intentionally places a bucket on the ground he changes the outcome ...

Isn't his just what it is all about ?
Without intention (by whomever) there will be no future (event).

It makes us all 'manipulators' in time. The collective 'consciousness' at the helm.

Cheers


hi operator,

it was not ment philosophical so much, i think the webbotters could just be not our friends.
by having the knowledge of what is planned, and then putting it out there as 'predictions' they might yust reinforce their agenda. scenario's put in a bedding of fear, emotion. i wunder why so few people consider this possibility.

[Lance]

hi operator,

it was not ment philosophical so much, i think the webbotters could just be not our friends.
by having the knowledge of what is planned, and then putting it out there as 'predictions' they might yust reinforce their agenda. scenario's put in a bedding of fear, emotion. i wunder why so few people consider this possibility.

I guess the same goes for the Mayan Calendar plotters whom can't decide upon an end date until one of them mysteriously dies, the remote viewers whom 'can't see beyond 2102' and a myriad of channeled gibberish hey! I'd agree. Fear fear, FEAR, fear, FeAr.

[quest]

I guess the same goes for the Mayan Calendar plotters whom can't decide upon an end date until one of them mysteriously dies, the remote viewers whom 'can't see beyond 2102' and a myriad of channeled gibberish hey! I'd agree. Fear fear, FEAR, fear, FeAr.

yes lance, these effects are realy welcomed and misused i think, all over the place.

but the case of webbot is even worse, how difficult it is to firt miraculously predict 9-11 and then blow up the towers at the 'predicted' date.

[Operator]

hi operator,

it was not ment philosophical so much, i think the webbotters could just be not our friends.
by having the knowledge of what is planned, and then putting it out there as 'predictions' they might yust reinforce their agenda. scenario's put in a bedding of fear, emotion. i wunder why so few people consider this possibility.

Good point ...

My angle was indeed different ... however because the principle always works it also works in this case.

If you 'intentionally' release info (or dis-info) it's about creating a future 'event'.
As far as I know you cannot think about something NOT happening.
So by creating fear you create collective thinking about something TO HAPPEN.

If you're successful in creating collective fear you inherently proof your prediction will be correct.

To create a 'clean' future it's better to not know any prediction !
Great, so what are we doing here ?? :mfr_lol:

That was more or less my conclusion from my last post too: "We are all manipulators by showing e.g. body language or telling/showing intent"

Cheers

[Maude]

Hi, what an interesting thread...I became fascinated with HPH recently and would like to add a couple of opinions FWIW. On an article I read which explained the technology (and it seemed to make sense even tho I am a complete techno-dummy) there is a plausible reason they don't publicly release their full analyses. This is because when they did the webbot technology kept finding their own reports and adding them to the data and thus skewing the findings. Plus, I reckon that putting the info out there is kind of creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of intent. Whether that can be classed as disinfo or just a couple of guys in a dilemma over what they think they've found and what to do with it, well thats up to you, dear reader.
Also as the main points are available on the urbansurvival site, then surely that info is now being disseminated across the web and also will be added to the data and possibly skewing the results? Who knows? Its too much for my poor mind...its boggled!
Further the technology only does so much. It is the human input which is analysing the data collected and trying to make sense of it. Well, like any other human analyses, it is simply one persons interpretation.
Having said all that, I can see why these 'time monks' might be intrigued and devoted enough to try and refine their interpretations. But I can't really appreciate how or why it should be taken any more seriously than anything else that I have been reading in the way of prophecy or prediction.
Anyway, I have gabbled and I'm not sure any of the above made any sense!
Love and peace to all,

[Operator]

Hi,

What boggles my mind more and more ...

Why have humans always such a hunger for prophecies or predictions ?
If we are powerful creators then that's the only thing we need to know.

It looks like we are afraid of ourselves, of our own powers and let the future be constructed by others.
So we can complain we are slaves of the 'others' and blame them if the future is not what we like ...

:giveup:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

I'm ready to starve to death. Bring it.

:lmfao: for some reason this made me LOL so hard:thumb_yello:

[alyscat]

I want to add to 404's comments here - there are 3 things going, halfpast human, which is pricey at over 200 dollars, but that is all the hard data for a particular run of the web-bots program, something only a true geek would love, and with my non-geekyness, I anticipate would take a huge harddrive and a lot of programmer and linguistic skills (something Clif has) to interpret. Wanna manipulate numbers and charts? Without the skillset to interpret, it's gonna be pretty useless to most of us. (And I say all this with the greatest respect to geekyness :wub2:.)

Then there is Peoplenomics, which is George Ure's subscription site, runs 40 dollars a year (less than $4 a month) and has extended info beyond his FREE SITE, which is UrbanSurvival.com. (George and Clif are the Time Monks who together bring us the web-bot info)

Everything that is really important will end up on the free site, which is updated Monday through Friday, so rather than complain about the cost or get into arguments over ethical/not ethical, just go on over to the free site, http://www.urbansurvival.com, and read the important info there.

George's extended supply list (which seems to be what the original poster was posting about, the "Get Ready to Go Camping" report, not a real HPH report), which was posted on Peoplenomics (i.e., the $40 a year site), was simply his personal wish list of things to have/do in case of emergency. None of them was original (water, food, shelter, clothing, comunication.), but they were things he felt was of value if everything goes to heck in a handbasket. You can find the same information all over the web, if you will just search for it. In fact, I would strongly recommend you do the research for yourself, because in looking at what your particular siutation is (are you rural, are you urban, do you have extended family to consider, what about meds, etc) you can get really clear on what YOU need. George lives on a ranch in Texas, so some of his needs will not be the same as yours.

Have you done your planning, should things go south? Are you implementing those plans now? It's not fear mongering to be prepared. It's only fear mongering if you attach an emotion to it, focus on it and let it paralyze you. I have clothes for all seasons, I'm prepared (at least in terms of clothes, but a girlfriend I have is the MOST prepared in terms of shoes of any one person I've ever seen, LOL) But I don't even think about clothes emotionally, because there's nothing to be emotional about.

Alys

I do not see the information underneath Urban Survival as being any more enlightening than what you can read for free.

Clif has said it time and time again... the information is for those that have enough foresight as well as the funds to appreciate the additional information.

I am not here to defend HPH or Urban Survival... I just wanted to say that

if INFORMATION is only accessible via a registered account and somebody just goes and posts it, I don't question the company charging for the registration... I question the person posting irresponsibly.

If you think it is irresponsible of HPH charging the fee they charge, contact them. Debating it here is fruitless as well as not within the realm of Avalon's message.

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[2infinityandbeyond]

Clearly this "web bot" program has been used before in the past. Does anyone know the accuracy rating? Previous Predictions that came true or were remotely accurate? Or is there any proof that the program can do any kind of predicting at all? In other words how much credence do we give this?

It predicted that there would be an event in early september of 2001 which wold cause worldwide grief and effect everyone at some level all around the world.

*thinks..* what happened on september 11th again?

[quest]

It predicted that there would be an event in early september of 2001 which wold cause worldwide grief and effect everyone at some level all around the world.

*thinks..* what happened on september 11th again?


-...how difficult could it be to first 'miraculously' predict 9-11 and then blow up the towers at the 'predicted' date.

[J-Bird]

It predicted that there would be an event in early september of 2001 which wold cause worldwide grief and effect everyone at some level all around the world.

*thinks..* what happened on september 11th again?



I wasn't implying it wasn't accurate, I was just asking.

[purplesage]

I have been following the (free) urbansurvival web page for 6 months now. Sometimes they're right (a major quake & the following dam breaks/flooding, severe stock market downturns), sometimes they're wrong (they predicted a major quake for Pacific NW by autumn's solstice, gold will double). Alot like astrology, their vagueness allows many scenarios to 'fulfill' predictions. When they ARE more precise, they often get some aspects wrong (their quake prediction (that was China's big one) was originally predicted for U.S. (their US-centric skew seems to be a major detraction of their accuracies).
Bottom line? The site has steered me in the right direction (reduction of paper assets & useless stuff (listen to George Carlin's rant on STUFF). No one person has all the answers, including George Ure & webbot Clif, but they do have useful information if you're able to filter it on a personal level ('they're more like guidelines'). When I have acted upon the info found there that truly resonates within me, it's been beneficial.
Through intent, we all make our own reality. Every challenge is an opportunity to change & grow. Look within for your particular purpose in this current world. Are you part of the problem or the solution?
Number 404, Nicomachus, Operator & Alyscat posts on this thread are all worth re-reading.

[addalight]

I just wanted point out that Webbots R Us. It isn't someone's personal prediction. It's a way of tapping into the collective unconscence as manifest on the internet, however limited that might be. I believe he puts as little as possible through the personal filter and still put the information out in some understandable way. Cliff is first to admit he doesn't really know what some of this information means.

[Sanat]

What do you trust more? Some machine/bot, or your own heart?

[LOCOAZ2008]

Pleace translate...

Hola a todos.....

Miren me estoy dando cuenta que estamos en este forum haciendo mal, les explico.

Si sale una noticia como la de web bot estamos gastando nuestra energia en poner en tela de juicio lo que dice web bot, lo mejor es hacer un analisis de lo expresado y ponernos en la supocision que pasaria se esto pasara, y ponernos a pensar en quehariamos si llegara a suceder. No pienso que negando si ellos predicen bien o no las cosas o si dieron en el blanco de la prediccion, ya se habran dado cuenta que varias veces han acertado en sus predicciones.

No pretendo que nadia entre en panico, solo digo ¡ hay que poner toda la informacion venga de donde venga y procesarla! Si solo negamos seremos presa facil del panico cuando llegue el momento de enfretarnos.

Saludos.

Paece & love

[2infinityandbeyond]

I do not see the information underneath Urban Survival as being any more enlightening than what you can read for free.


Of course it is, its a new method of gathering information whereby it taps into the global subconcious, leading to what can be some remarkably accurate intuitive information which has already proven itself more then once.


Clif has said it time and time again... the information is for those that have enough foresight as well as the funds to appreciate the additional information.


I do not have those funds. And my entire point in posting what I did was to express my dissapointment that the people who run that site could not make some information free to the public. Especially when it is as pertinent as this.

* This website predicted that there would be huge global turmoil in september of 2001. This in itself is enough to make me take notice. And it is their duty as human beings to warn the public if there is another event about to take place. But no, they want us to pay. If you agree with this, that is your opinion. And if i was paying to view this information and noticed that there was going to be a massive global event in the next month i would stick my two fingers up too copywrite and inform my fellow humans. That is ethical. I'm gonna have to talk to jesus some day.


if INFORMATION is only accessible via a registered account and somebody just goes and posts it, I don't question the company charging for the registration... I question the person posting irresponsibly.


I think the poster was right in bringing this to our attention. If something is going to happen i would much rather everyone be prepared rather then be ethical where copywrite is concerned. Excuse my french but in situations like this f**k copywrite.


If you think it is irresponsible of HPH charging the fee they charge, contact them. Debating it here is fruitless as well as not within the realm of Avalon's message.


I did not wish to debate it. I was simply stating my opinion. Your reply to my post opened the debate.

[2infinityandbeyond]

What do you trust more? Some machine/bot, or your own heart?

My own heart tells me something is gonna happen. *bites nails*

[cantaloupe]

If you listen to the c2c interview with these guys, they come off as caring and credible and they give away a great deal of their predictive info. At one point one of them says something to the effect of " it's too late to worry about giving away something we could charge for instead." Also, on the site it admonishes people that they should not subscribe unless the amount is a pittance for them. And they are very up-front about the fact that there is a great deal of interpretation involved in their work and that they are sometimes wrong about the language that appears around a particular event. The c2c interview seems to have a fairly generous amount of info, admittedly partial and of questionable meaning. In a way, because they are, during the interview, giving the benefit of their interpretive skill and openly allowing for the deficiencies of the system, I felt as though I didn't really need to subscribe. I don't think they are hucksters.

[Myra]

If I listened carefully enough to what Cliff told about it ... it's exactly this what it's based on !
Humans are considered to be more psychic than they realize themselves and everything they say is considered as input for the web bot.

How much intent is involved when people 'say' things is debatable ... of course.

The only thing to proof this technology works (more or less) is based on statistics of accuracy so far.
I regard the outcome as 'indicators' not as truth to rely on ...

I am afraid you're psychic yourself too (I am NOT implying that you're a dumb human that comes up with an unknown philosophy ):

"Who lives by the sword dies by the sword" ... you indeed confirmed the future unless you get rid of the guns !

I deliberately chose my avatar .. it shows a military guy WITHOUT a weapon.
Considering military supposed to be here for DEFENSE the best weapon is using your eyes, ears and a sensible mind.

Use your senses ... all of them !

Honestly, I respect what you're saying but a lot of that really depends on where you live. I'm sure that if something goes down San Diego (Southern California) will be a lot crazier to be in and to deal with than living in the peaceful Caribbean.

Not trying to be disrespectful but just more realistic and I always try to open peoples eyes to this aspect! If I lived in a safer area I would feel more peaceful too. No wonder so many people on this Forum feel peace. They feel safe where they are! You can't blame a person for wanting to be prepared and protect themselves and being on guard depending on where they live, what their Gov is like there, and and how many millions of people live around them!

It's pretty congested here, little to no wilderness areas and basically no way out if something serious goes down. Not unless you have a boat! :boat:

[QueenOfLeon]

:lmfao: for some reason this made me LOL so hard:thumb_yello:

You and me both!! bloody brilliant!!

:lmao:

[Avid]

George Ure's new free info here (http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm)

Things to prepare for 7.10 am October 7th.

All the very best to you all :original:

[Sanat]

My own heart tells me something is gonna happen. *bites nails*

Yea, mine too. The old will finally give in for the New in a way that is almost beyond imagination. Huge and good things are on the horizon starting with the 14th october event...

[Frame Dragger]

Don't fall for the negativity, folks.



We should fall for the positivity, maybe?

The future belongs to those who are willing to die to see it come. At one time it was the revolutionaries in the US breaking away from Britain. Now it's billions of people in rags and rage.

And Americans, who don't consider anything worth dying for, will die for nothing.

[gemgal46]

I have been a subscriber to HPH for a long time. A lot of the information in the reports is not necessarily relevant to what is coming up in the immediate future and what IS relevant, Cliff makes sure that George posts that FOR FREE on his website. Cliff is an ex-Microsoft guy and has a very enlightened outlook on life and doing the right thing. He has said many times that he will always make sure the important information, for mankind, is made available to everyone. Something about not wanting to a karmic debt! Cut him some slack!

[recallone]

"Scam" ? "Unethical" - ?

If you listen to the interview, you'll hear that they charge so much money for a reason. It's to discourage a bunch of people from subscribing. They allow information to be passed along to the public through another site, Urbansurvival.com (http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm) for the purpose of letting people know the basics of the information without contaminating the process of tuning into the collective psychic ability. If they put out all of their analysis free to the public, a bunch of people would be copying an pasting the reports all over the web and therefore affecting the process their software was intended for. Please, listen to the Coast to Coast interview before throwing stones and judgments. Personally, I think both of the guys running it are coming from a place of love and integrity.

If you need more answers than what's being provided to you...first of all, join the club; then find them yourselves, within. The whole idea of the Half Past Human web bots is to tap into the collective psychic ability. I think they're doing us a tremendous service. If you would like to know more, tap into your own psychic ability. Not there yet? Neither am I. So, I'm just grateful for what I do get and eagerly anticipate the unlocking of all of my abilities - psychic and otherwise.

Peace and light.
recallone

[houman]

"Commandments Before The Strike": October 7, 2008

false flag :sweatdrop:? psy ops intox :bleh:? or plain BS :biggrin2:?

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/20080924RT
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/20080928D

Houman

[Stinkhorn]

Supposedly, we the people will revolt against our government and we will find out the secrets of aliens that have been kept for over 100 years.

The aliens are interested in our fluids, most likely the pineal gland in our brains and our lymph system. We go to war with the aliens and we win but at a great loss, maybe only about 500,000 thousand survive worldwide. I wory not, I will be one of them.

I have been waiting for this since I was born, I though it would come earlier in my life, around age 19, now at 36 I can feel it really close. It is our destiny!

[quest]

The whole idea of the Half Past Human web bots is to tap into the collective psychic ability.

nothing personal recallone, i just use above sentence to respond.
cause is the idea not that we jump out of the collective, and create a new reality? that’s what bot-hers me about bot, the whole idea is not about forecasting but re-creating, taking action, picking up responsibility. jumping out of the grove.

and besides, what about the name half past human, and a dancing skeleton on the website.

[recallone]

nothing personal recallone, i just use above sentence to respond.
cause is the idea not that we jump out of the collective, and create a new reality? that’s what bot-hers me about bot, the whole idea is not about forecasting but re-creating, taking action, picking up responsibility. jumping out of the grove.

and besides, what about the name half past human, and a dancing skeleton on the website.

"jump out of the collective"? So, separate in order to create? I see it as the other way around. If more people are aware of what's going on and more people take back their power to manifest - a lot of these things can be averted. Things are being averted.
The CERN mysteriously broke.
The Georgia/Russia plot failed miserably.
I see these events as results of the awakening. More and more, people are daring to trust their creative powers and fly in the face of adversity to change the future. More and more, people are beginning to understand that we must progress collectively. Together.

It begins when we stop thinking in terms of us and them.
Here's a thought: most here are familiar with the 100th monkey, right? Well, its a very real possibility (IMHO) that the PTB are getting sloppy, and some of them purposefully so - in order to remove some of the effectiveness from their plan. We've heard it from many different witnesses that there are some people born into these families that don't want to go along with their program. Fear of being killed keeps them in. If you were in that situation, wouldn't you be trying to sabotage some of the plans for humanity's benefit? Drag your heels a bit in relaying some important intel, change a number here - a grid coordinate there...you see where I'm going with this? As we elevate our consciousness, we follow suit. A friend suggested that I create something today. This is what I choose to create. Pivotal people within the structures and military ranks of the PTB to wake up and take a stand. Or just keep messin' with the numbers so none of their figures line up.

As for the skeleton...I'm not afraid of skeletons, or names. If the name was Dumbo Web Bots with a dancing squirrel on the page, would the information be any less valuable?
Peace.

[TAXMASTER]

Greetings,

I have an idea that I want to throw out for discussion. Since half past human admits that their forcasts can be a little off in time and intensity could the following be a plaisible idea:

the event of october 7 has in effect already happened. meaning that this financial meltdown is the start of this event.

the duration of this will effect us in some way that will greatly impact us and the world until early 2009.

What does anyone think?

Namaste'

[Truth voice 2012]

I'm ready to starve to death. Bring it.

:lmao: You rock my world! It makes no sense :mfr_lol:

[Truth voice 2012]

Lets make it the ground crew motto. Just for s!*ts and giggles.

[quest]

hi recallone, thanks for the reply.

oneness yes, all i wanted to state is that by repeating forecasts like parrots, one empowers them (the predictions, not the parrots). its like an upside-down mantra. even so all the conspiracies, trough or false, its all an illusion, empowering all the outside stuff seems a to be a waste. anyway, i am repeating myself, sorry about that.
goodluck to all.

[recallone]

I'd have to agree with you, quest - that by repeating forecasts one could lend their creative force to that end. That's one of the reasons why they (Cliff and George) don't encourage people to pay the fees - so there aren't a bunch of people focusing on it. On the other hand, we're talking about circumstances that have a terrific amount of inertia behind them, in a future that's malleable. By being made aware of the massive plan in play, we can take physical steps to prepare ourselves just in case, AND commit our vibrations to steering the future elsewhere.

When CERN went online there were a bunch of us very much aware of the possibility of that thing opening up a black hole, messing with the space time continuum, whatever - but because we knew about these things, and didn't like the prospect of any of them, we intended a different result. What did we get? A big, expensive broken machine.
We may not be able to stop the thing outright (at our current level of manifesting), but we can damn sure nudge it one way or the other. Being aware of the boogies in the dark is not going to give them more power...being afraid of them will. We decide what emotion we're going to embrace. If we love the thing, love the people behind the thing (however misguided they may be) and expect a different outcome, then we can and will affect the path/future of it. That's how I see it anyways.
You've got great energy, quest. I'm glad you're here. Lots of good energy in here.
Keep it up!

Peace
recallone

[doodah]

[QUOTE=LiquidSwordz;32705] Well, i believe in Webbot because it is the most LOGICAL, and perfect system ever built. It generates things in a unique way that already exist on this planet. QUOTE]

On the contrary! The results of halfpasthuman -- the web bot -- is based ENTIRELY ON CLIF HIGH'S PERSONAL OPINION AS TO THE VALUE OF HUMAN EMOTIONS. He states this very clearly in his interview with Bill and Kerry. HE and he alone makes up the numerical values that he assigns to emotions, then runs the web bot programs with those numbers as part of the program's basic instructions -- his opinion. It's his best guess. There's nothing logical about this. Sure, the computer program is logical, but the basis of it is not, so what do you get? GIGO.

You could do your own program, assign what you believe should be the proper numerical values and get entirely different results. It would, however, be just as valid because NONE of this is valid.

And the worst part is that it contributes to the fear that it then measures all over again: a self-feeding loop. It's an Illuminati feedback tool, even if Clif is the most innocent guy in the world and doesn't realize what he's doing.

[Many Lightenings]

You could do your own program, assign what you believe should be the proper numerical values and get entirely different results. It would, however, be just as valid because NONE of this is valid.

And the worst part is that it contributes to the fear that it then measures all over again: a self-feeding loop. It's an Illuminati feedback tool, even if Clif is the most innocent guy in the world and doesn't realize what he's doing.[/QUOTE]
from Doodah

I have listened to Cliff a couple of times now and to tell you the truth he is gettting really tedious.
No solutions...
I wish he could say that the machine looks as if we a catching on and getting it, preparing. You would think... he would start to get that kind of reading....since we are all focused on Oct 7th. All this awareness would trigger a Mind Levee to peak and finally break loose of this leviathan albatrose on all of our backs.
Just my take...
Oh no.....we get Camping for life...oh goodie...

[doodah]

Many Lightenings -- Agreed. He mainly measures fear. He is mostly measuring emotional response to Illuminati-controlled SLANTED NEWS, which is what most of the news is, so his results MUST also be slanted. All of this is skewed in two ways: 1) because he alone decides what the numerical values for emotions will be, and 2) because he applies that personal-opinion logic to distorted news. What a mess, and then people believe this stuff and get even more fearful.

We know we are being manipulated into fear by all the news, and have been for the past 10 years at least -- all the lies about Iraq, aliens, chemtrails, and all the other ways we're lied to. That's why I say all he's doing is letting the Illuminati know what a great job of creating fear they're doing.

Most alterntive stuff goes into his Disinfo category. He decides what the names of the categories will be, and he has decided that things like ascension or consciousness shift is "Disinfo" buried deep in his Space Goat Farts category.

[100thmonkey]

Yet by focussing on all these forecast 'events-to-be-feared' we're missing what else it predicts, ie. the fall of the Illuminati PTB, and the awakening/rising up of the masses, or at least the survivors.

Also, in some defense of Clif's methods of personally choosing the values of certain emotions, etc. he does say he is guided by the Universe, working on a personal relationship/life-mission he has...

Of course we then ask, "How can we trust that? There's thousands of people all thinking they're in touch with different beings, gods, universe, whatever, all getting different predictions/results, etc..."
So we just look at the results.
Clif dosn't claim he is always right, or the system is always right, but I think in this case the results do speak for themselves. The Web-bot has forecast certain events pretty accurately, as listed in the interview.

If a human psychic was making this level of accuracy I'd definitely pay them attention - at least taking what they say as fair warning, not just fear mongering.
Knowing what's ahead means we can take steps to avoid it.

Yet if it's the only way to bring about the end of the Illuminati-type PTB then, as Michael St Clair says, it actually may be worth the pain of this predicted future...