Timeline speeds down the SPIRAL OCT. 7th

[Suriel]

Hello Avalon Crew,

I found a forum entry on godlikeproductions.com that I wanted to share with you that I thought was interesting. If any of you are familiar with Timewave Zero, which was discovered or created by Terrence McKenna, he states that time will speed up to 2012 until time becomes zero which means we will be sustained in a timeless reality.

Well here is part of that entry:

Time is a fractal wave composed of cycles. we are at the end of a major cycle right now that will end in 21/12/2012 at 11:11 AM. According to the timewave theory, oct 7 marks our plunge into a free fall toward 2012. after oct 7 there is no return.

the graph describes NOVELTY, a term used for what really is "rate of change". the closer to ZERO the graph is, the bigger the rate of change. an infinite rate is called a singularity or ZERO POINT. peaks going away from zero-point are tending to static growth, that is, an escalation of something that isn't very dynamic, but is very BIG, and that's where we are now! we are entering the LAST BIG PEAK (or escalation) before the FREE FALL that will be the timespan between the end of 2008 and half of 2009, then stabilizing and dragging on until 2012. It's the last big peak of this cycle. After it there is only a countdown to 2012. T-minus 2012!!

Here is the graph:

http://www.conspiracybase.com/timewave00.gif

Imagine that we are riding the spiral timewave. Time is speeding up. Well according to gus, from this forum entry (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message623862/pg1), he is saying that October 7th is the beginning of the intense speeding up cycle.

What do you think? Is there a correlation between the web bot material and timewave zero? Things are going to get mighty interesting from here on out.

Enjoy.

:)

[JesterTerrestrial]

Hold on to your DNA! Thanks for posting this.

Its really good to know what time it is. It will help u to stay centered.

Time to shine.

[GregorArturo]

Hey thanks for sharing! I really found it interesting. Do you have any links to go further into this information?

[eaglespirit]

Thanks for sharing that, Suriel!

It has a wild and wonderful and direct meaning for me!

I am heading to the 4 Corners area from New England for an intense workshop that means so much to me and the changes ensuing and I am so grateful to be going and had an option of being there from October 4th thru the 12th of October and my Guidance led me to going on October "7th" and returning on the "13th" !

Had to share that when I saw this post of Yours about Terrence McKenna's Timewave Zero chart which I had not perused in some time.

Makes me feel "right on track"!

Thanks Again! : )

[Suriel]

This link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQwJGfOt-c) explains the timewave zero theory. Enjoy.

[conniec818]

greetings to all...
this is on the same wavelength as half past human...too many coincedences going on...leading up to the same theory....can so many be wrong????

[Thunderbird]

waitaminute..what are the dates along the bottom?
id like to see the graph in its full context.

i could have stuck arbitrary arrows and date on any old graph if i wanted to prove a point or at least circumnavigate a logic process in the viewer.

sure everything is all ooga booga right now....but...... fear is just
Fictional Evidence Appearing Real

if its real its truth..if it is fiction it certainly appears real....

[wes_whitewolf]

fear is just
Fictional Evidence Appearing Real

if its real its truth..if it is fiction it certainly appears real....

I like that!!!:thumb_yello:
Thanks Brother...can be said for a lot of posts, threads and world events for that matter right now!!!!

[Quinn134t]

I think now would be the appropriate time to double check the safety latch on the sanity belts, and return the pineal to its upright position.

Have a nice weekend.

[Suriel]

Hello friends,

If you mix sacred geometry of the flower of life and quantum physics and the understanding of how time works in space and the cosmos, everything leads to infinity. There is a contracting and collapsing process in the way time and creation works.

The Pisces Age ends in 2012 leading into the Aquarius Age. This happens every 25,800 years. So, basically we are turning around full circle in the rotation of our Galaxy.

Imagine the cosmos breathing out with expression and breathing in with reflection or wisdom. We are also a part of this cycle. Everything we learn throughout history gets taken back to our creator. We are that collective lesson in expression.

As time speeds up we will literally flip out through the otherside of consciousness into a Golden Age. If you look at everything three dimensionally, you are only viewing one side of the picture. Keep in mind there is something there on the other side.

We are reaching a point in our evolution where we will start to understand how creation and the universe works. This is why we are living in exciting times. At the same time this new energy that we are feeling is overpowering. Some people feel anxiety from the effects of this new cosmic power.

Now your point on sanity is only an individual point of view. What one experiences in development may be different than what someone else experiences from another separate stand point. But what this new time reveals is that we will learn that we are not separate. Then things will start to connect and all of our puzzle pieces will start to fit together.

I have a feeling that we will be witnessing the birth of our new human evolution. I am proud to be a part of that.

Now hence the word, "theory". This means that the timewave zero theory is not proven. This thread is clearly stating another potential piece of a large puzzle. Some will relate to the information. Some will not. I'm not really interested in a debate on fact or fiction.

My information is a reflection. What you get from it is your choice.

Maybe in 2012 IF we hit zero time, you can come back to this thread and remember where we went from here.

Peace.

[tone3jaguar]

Thanks for the post. More confirmation that we are about a week out from the first stage of spontanious evolution. I came up with the 9th in the other thread in this forum called "Intuitive Dowsing for DNA shifts inside...". It would seem like splitting hairs if I was not like a kid a few days before Christmas.

[tone3jaguar]

Thanks for sharing that, Suriel!

It has a wild and wonderful and direct meaning for me!

I am heading to the 4 Corners area from New England for an intense workshop that means so much to me and the changes ensuing and I am so grateful to be going and had an option of being there from October 4th thru the 12th of October and my Guidance led me to going on October "7th" and returning on the "13th" !

Had to share that when I saw this post of Yours about Terrence McKenna's Timewave Zero chart which I had not perused in some time.

Makes me feel "right on track"!

Thanks Again! : )

That should end up being one heck of an incredible workshop.

[Suriel]

Here is a larger picture explaining the novelty theory:

http://www.thebestlinks.com/images/8/89/Timewave.9.11.2001.png

The software program Terrence McKenna used was in MS DOS. Look at 2008 and how it begins to fall.

You can compare the HalfpastHuman charts and the Timewave zero charts in the forum entry here (http://newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php?topic=52.msg3298;topicseen). Scroll down the page unitl you see the charts.

Peace.

[Racsouran]

Here is a larger picture explaining the novelty theory:

http://www.thebestlinks.com/images/8/89/Timewave.9.11.2001.png

The software program Terrence McKenna used was in MS DOS. Look at 2008 and how it begins to fall.

You can compare the HalfpastHuman charts and the Timewave zero charts in the forum entry here (http://newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php?topic=52.msg3298;topicseen). Scroll down the page unitl you see the charts.

Peace.

Long ago i used that program to take a look.

What Mckenna thinks is that the entire history of time repeats itself in smaller and smaller timeframes, time inside time so to speak. Fractally speaking, is like being drawn into a singularity wich supposed event horizon lies at 21 12 2012. What will probably happen in that date?, i think an Spiritual Big Bang or similar.

[Operator]

Hi,

What is represented along the vertical scale ... . ?
I mean what unity / value is this ? and how is it determined ?

Cheers ...

[Racsouran]

Hi,

What is represented along the vertical scale ... . ?
I mean what unity / value is this ? and how is it determined ?

Cheers ...

The degree of novelty. You should read The explanation searching on google about it all because i don´t understand it completely, seems to be related with i-ching random states or something, i don´t know.

[abstractvisions]

Good job Suriel, I posted the same information on a different thread a few days before you. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3198&highlight=october&page=2
You and I must be onto the same insight! :thumb_yello:

[Molly]

There's a psychic Ruth Ryden predicting that oct 7th is an atmospheric anomaly/change in frequency that is going to change everything.

Could this be it, this timewave drop off -- instead of some catastrophic event? Do you think that 'time speeding up' will just be so scary that people can't deal with it?

What are your thoughts on that Suriel...do you still think it is going to be a man-made event?

BTW, you have made a great connection here!

[Racsouran]

I think it´s probably many persons (the huge vast mayority) wont be able to handle those energies if the do ocurr. they could start to think they are going insane, in the worst case scenario :lmao:

[Suriel]

Well, half the population is already on anti-depressants. So this may prevent everyone from going crazy from time speeding up. We are currently living in a 16 hour day in a 24 hour period. I have noticed that my minutes of consciousness have doubled from one to two.

There will be some people that will ride the wave and connect to this new energy and balance out. Others will be confused, which could result in spontaneous random chaotic events.

When we approach time zero, global consciousness will be connected to a solid network. The positive polarity timeline will result in human spiritual evolution where we will be highly evolved spiritual beings. The old lifestyles will cease to exist and new systems of being will be born due to the new cosmic connection and wisdom obtained.

The negative timeline is pretty much Hell on Earth.

I choose to be on the positive polarity timeline.

When we hit time zero these two timelines will split apart resulting in mass disappearances. The light beings go one way. The dark beings go another way.

It could be like when you wake up one morning and everything has changed. If you are on the positive polarity timeline everyone will be very cooperative and happy. If you are undeveloped spiritually and tend to be on the more dark polarity, you could walk out into global chaos.

So that is my theory on what is awaiting on the otherside of the 4th density. Those souls that do not graduate may just continue their 3rd density reality in their negative plane of demonic fun.

Dan Burisch talks about this in his material about how the negative polarity timeline humans become Zeta Reticuli negative robotic emotionless humanoids. And the positive spiritual humans become the Nordics.

So, I guess we will see where we all end up.

:)

[Love/Light 13]

Suriel-

I have read that the negatively polarized entities will be misinformed by the global elite after the timeline split. The global elite (aka the Vatican/Jesuit Order) will fabricate a story to explain the unexplainable disappearance of hundreds of millions of people (hopefully more), whom in reality have actually chosen the positively polarized path, and are now existing on an alternative timeline. The people on the negative path will be told that those souls whom vanished off the face of the earth were victims of the Rapture of God, and have been enternally condemned to the depths of Hell.

anyone ever hear of this possibility??

always seeking Truth, haven't found it yet! :mfr_lol:


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may WIDSOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

[Racsouran]

Well, half the population is already on anti-depressants. So this may prevent everyone from going crazy from time speeding up. We are currently living in a 16 hour day in a 24 hour period. I have noticed that my minutes of consciousness have doubled from one to two.

There will be some people that will ride the wave and connect to this new energy and balance out. Others will be confused, which could result in spontaneous random chaotic events.

When we approach time zero, global consciousness will be connected to a solid network. The positive polarity timeline will result in human spiritual evolution where we will be highly evolved spiritual beings. The old lifestyles will cease to exist and new systems of being will be born due to the new cosmic connection and wisdom obtained.

The negative timeline is pretty much Hell on Earth.

I choose to be on the positive polarity timeline.

When we hit time zero these two timelines will split apart resulting in mass disappearances. The light beings go one way. The dark beings go another way.

It could be like when you wake up one morning and everything has changed. If you are on the positive polarity timeline everyone will be very cooperative and happy. If you are undeveloped spiritually and tend to be on the more dark polarity, you could walk out into global chaos.

So that is my theory on what is awaiting on the otherside of the 4th density. Those souls that do not graduate may just continue their 3rd density reality in their negative plane of demonic fun.

Dan Burisch talks about this in his material about how the negative polarity timeline humans become Zeta Reticuli negative robotic emotionless humanoids. And the positive spiritual humans become the Nordics.

So, I guess we will see where we all end up.

:)

i don´t support that extremism based on dualities or polarizations. Seems too unreal to be considered for me. Things are not that simple. That´s just a very, very wild speculation you have done there.

I am always suspicious about theories of division and polarizations, that of you sound very obvious and evident, why such need to divide persons that way?, it´s something i cannot even conceive in my worsts states of mind....:shocked: because i simply profess unconditionally much more respect to human beings than such theories proclaim themselves.

[Suriel]

There is no division in all creation. I believe I stated that we will all be connected. The division only occurs within the individual. We will be entering an age where we will think less with our minds and more with our hearts, which is a good thing.

I love all humans and creation. I wish nothing but the best for everyone.

I respect your thoughts and I thank you for your input.

Peace.

[Love/Light 13]

Suriel-

Any thoughts to my post above??

Racsouran-

fair enough that you don't support the dualistic idea of the timeline split/polarization theory. I am not saying that I buy it myself.

What if those two polarities do exist, however there is also a third path, a neutral polarity. One where the highly positive and negative don't exist.

where life goes on and the daily grind continues......... with no knowledge of the other invisible positive and negative entities that inhabit the universe around them. you never know, until you KNOW, and I DON'T know!......

Hope this does not read as demeaning in any manner, I respect your opinion on the subject and wish you all best............

*****************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

L/L 13

[Indiana jones]

For me time is speeding up the last week as flown by which is now happening on aregular basis.Also been seeing 11:11 a lot lately. luke

[Racsouran]

Suriel-

Any thoughts to my post above??

Racsouran-

fair enough that you don't support the dualistic idea of the timeline split/polarization theory. I am not saying that I buy it myself.

What if those two polarities do exist, however there is also a third path, a neutral polarity. One where the highly positive and negative don't exist.

where life goes on and the daily grind continues......... with no knowledge of the other invisible positive and negative entities that inhabit the universe around them. YOU NEVER KNOW................

Hope this does not read as demeaning in any manner, I respect your opinion on the subject and wish you all best............

*****************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

L/L 13

All in all they all look like simplistic explanations that has no coherent basis with my relative conception of reality.

You are more afraid of your ideas to be dismissed than me.

[Love/Light 13]

Racsouran-

you assume too much. my post could have had a much harsher tone, though I am not one to get personal with others on the forum.

Each individual entity has its own path, its own reality and its own TRUTH. You must be very versed in quantum physics, string theory, multi-dimensional realities, etc. to discount the idea of a convergence of multiple galactic and universal forces. A timeline split of some sort after this convergence seems plausable, though hard to prove, thus the constant debate...........

not to mention the knowlede of the ancients, much of which is locked up in the depths of the Vatican library. The ancients understood astronomy and astrology, as well as the true nature of time in a way we have yet still to rediscover. All ancient mythology, scripture, and prophecy points towards a dramatic shift in human consciousness at this "time" in history.

I am curious to hear your response.......

L/L 13

[Suriel]

Hello friends,

I have made a list of links to help add to this thread to help some of you comprehend some of the material expressed. I will embelish the idea that some other readers are interested in learning more on these theories.


So here are a few links -

Fractal Wisdom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GaB1VMAXPQ)

The Power of Consciousness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o-JN9l2_T0)

Polarity of Consciousness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6svaXG8Ph4)

Polarity of Consciousness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP2KO_Hza_M&feature=related) (Part 2) - this explains more on the theory of the human species dividing - scroll near the end of the video and listen

Polarity of Consciousness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9K8i5pHM8&feature=related) - (Part 3) This goes in further detail of the division theory

Peace.

[hobbit]

Us little hobbit's are dowsers, born and bred.
If you hold a single dowsing rod in one hand, and clasp your other hand about the one holding the rod, then follow the spiral pathway at every point of entry and exit on the surface of the planet.
What you will find is a steady route leading into and out of the centre point, as you walk along this pathway carefully watching the rod, you will note points where the rod flicks slightly inwards or outwards depending if you are following the inward or outward spiral.
This is where the incoming vector lines allow the stream of time to cross from line to line, always attracted to that centre point.
As you become closer and closer to that centre point, the rod turns and flicks ever more speedily and at a larger degree, until you finally near the centre point, then a sudden violent turn occurs into that centre point.

I am alpha and omega ( anode and cathode)

As the great man said ( Dylan) TIME is an ocean, and it ends at the shore, Oh sister, you might not see me tomorrow.

But fear not, what you see is merely a consequence of frequencies, and those frequencies will alter, go with the flow, the flow of time, We are all heading back to a single point, where time of past , present and future are all there.
Bring it on.
Hobbit

[Toymachines]

This comparison blew me away.
http://newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=3d37c8fd658d7f11603489218eea3f 95&action=dlattach;topic=52.0;attach=208;image

http://newearthsummit.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=3d37c8fd658d7f11603489218eea3f 95&action=dlattach;topic=52.0;attach=209;image

"...would like to know how the Timewave graph and HPH emotional trends graph can match up 99.37% accuracy on 144 data points."


Thanks to sudnlyaware at newearthsummit.org

[Racsouran]

Racsouran-

you assume too much. my post could have had a much harsher tone, though I am not one to get personal with others on the forum.

Each individual entity has its own path, its own reality and its own TRUTH. You must be very versed in quantum physics, string theory, multi-dimensional realities, etc. to discount the idea of a convergence of multiple galactic and universal forces. A timeline split of some sort after this convergence seems plausable, though hard to prove, thus the constant debate...........

not to mention the knowlede of the ancients, much of which is locked up in the depths of the Vatican library. The ancients understood astronomy and astrology, as well as the true nature of time in a way we have yet still to rediscover. All ancient mythology, scripture, and prophecy points towards a dramatic shift in human consciousness at this "time" in history.

I am curious to hear your response.......

L/L 13

i have to become personal when i disagree with someone´s perspective because, it´s THE perspective expressed by that person so i have to direct my answer to THAT person in particular......... for the others to be aware with who i am disagreeing with. That´s what you fear.

You can dismiss my points, i don´t care at all, because that´s irrelevant. But you cannot suppose i need to be "very versed in quantum physics, string theory, multi-dimensional realities, etc." for me to be able to express an opinion, at all. My view of the universe is in high contrast with those simplistic perspectives, that´s all. Get over it, it´s all i can say to those of you who dislike this way of expressing an opinion that does count the same as each other.

I see, i feel, i sense, and i perceive: more possibilities, more complexity, and more unpredictability.


Don´t wish me love, please:roll1:

[Love/Light 13]

Racs-

angry much? really just trying to get your perspective on the nature of the universe Rac. Peace and love,


L/L 13

p.s.

to the rest of this thread absolutely fascinating stuff. i have seen that fractal pattern deciphered in various texts, and the repetitive nature of its existence is fascinating.........

[truth-freedom]

I, too, have studied the lectures given by Terence McKenna. Many are available on YouTube. His 'Novelty Theory' and explaination of Time Wave: Zero Point are fascinating. I believe him to be right.

There has been much debate over how/why his graph hits an asymptote on Dec. 21, 2012. A mathematician, Matthem Watkins, who reviewed the work, prior to McKenna's death, had questions about how McKenna arrived at the now famous end date. It seems this date was chosed my McKenna instead of him having arrived at it via the Ken Wing sequence of I-Ching or some other mathematical way. All of these details are readily available under the "Novelty Theory" section of Wikipedia.

But still, how is it that entropy no longer exists after this date? Time itself slips into a state which can no longer be defined?

My curiosity lies more in the meta-physical ideals of our existence and McKenna's outlook on it. What is Zero-Point? Some of the Camelot interviewees have been asked about this idea and say it is Meta-Physical BS. But I wonder. As quantum physics discovers more and more about our 'reality', it seems to merge with long talked about meta-physical ideas. Reality as a hologram, the speeding up and slowing down of time proven by the GPS satellites, as well as data from astronomy and archeology.

Could it be that we will experience a "Zero Point" which is like the ending of a computer program? And that possibly ALL of physicality is a programmed experience, a hologram, an illustion which exists in perception only? If so, how much of what we see/feel/hear or otherwise experience exists outside of the program? Only the souls of the people/beings? If so, are ETs just a program input with no real existence outside of it or do they represent/embody souls as well? What about the 'evil factions' of Reptilitan/Illuminati/Greys etc. which much of this forum focuses on? Program or real?

Perhaps "Zero Point", the end of 'newness', means we have seen and experienced all that 'we' are supposed to see and experience here. End of the linear program, myth, math and metaphor returning to the Source. The buzzer sounds like at the end of a football game and we all leave the field to go home. Maybe some players will be asleep on the field when the buzzer sounds and they will have to play another game after the clock is re-set. And the ones who played well get to go on to another realm which is more 'real'.

There are definitely more pieces of this puzzle to be discovered ever so quickly. I'm ready for sumpn new!

[Racsouran]

angry much? really just trying to get your perspective on the nature of the universe Rac. Peace and love,


L/L 13

you think your attitude that´s not normal?, well, it is, sadly; to attract the issue discussed at hand calling for bad emotions on me is silly, to say the least.

I was only clearing my points. what happens, that all has to be "peace, love light hare hare krisna" and such; if not, i am angry?, well, if now i am angry it´s because of you and because i am human.

[tone3jaguar]

i have to become personal when i disagree with someone´s perspective because, it´s THE perspective expressed by that person so i have to direct my answer to THAT person in particular......... for the others to be aware with who i am disagreeing with. That´s what you fear.

You can dismiss my points, i don´t care at all, because that´s irrelevant. But you cannot suppose i need to be "very versed in quantum physics, string theory, multi-dimensional realities, etc." for me to be able to express an opinion, at all. My view of the universe is in high contrast with those simplistic perspectives, that´s all. Get over it, it´s all i can say to those of you who dislike this way of expressing an opinion that does count the same as each other.

I see, i feel, i sense, and i perceive: more possibilities, more complexity, and more unpredictability.

Don´t wish me love, please:roll1

Dude no one fears your internet muscles. Get over it. We are here to learn not try to judge and intimidate each other with forum posts. You are going to be fearing your own paradigm here in a few days if you hold onto old concepts of reality.

[Racsouran]

Dude no one fears your internet muscles. Get over it. We are here to learn not try to judge and intimidate each other with forum posts. You are going to be fearing your own paradigm here in a few days if you hold onto old concepts of reality.


that´s fascist. i am trying to have a critical thinking based conversation and that´s what i only achieve, threats, social punishments?, what you dislike of me is my critical thinking gift..... sad to recognize.

END this and stay on topic, period.

[mudra]

Thanks for your bringing this to our attention Suriel.
I believe Terence Mc Kenna's theory of time zero wave parallels the "Welcome to evolution tapes " of Ian Lungold on the Mayan calendar.It's not so much that time is speeding up but rather that consciousness is expanding.From it's journey into Matter energy space and time (the solid world) consciousness is now going back to a state of "no time".
The cycles Consciousness go through , are becoming shorter and shorter and everything therefore seems to speed up.
The end date of the Mayan Calendar is dec 2012. This marks the end of Time as we know it and the birth of a brand new world where we can all live in the NOW as totally aware spirits.This is I understand an open gate to total freedom as Spirits.

Here is a link the full pdf of Ian's lungold tapes.
http://www.mayanmajix.com/Mayan%20Calendar%20Comes%20North.pdf

kindness

mudra

[Suriel]

You are welcome Mudra. It is definitely cool material. Thanks for the link.

:)

[Racsouran]

one thing i don´t have clear still, is that, when you talk that in this times speeds goes up in time, what do you personally feel?:

-time passes fast: you feel a week has passes as if it was some days or less.

or

-You feel time passes slowly: feeling that u have lived, more LIFE in less time: in one week the worth of experience of several months.


What do you feel?.

I always felt the second.


i have seen some long videos on Ian lungol´s work too, interesting to a degree on the explanation of the mayan calendar, you can get some good videos on emule of him or on google video, i reccomend them if you are interested.

[Suriel]

The rate of change is speeding up to every perception of a second. The watch you are viewing was made by humans to calculate time.

An example of this is when someone is in a car accident and everything appears to slow down like you are in slow motion. Although your watch is ticking perfectly, your awareness and consciousness slows down.

Well, the opposite also occurs when your consciousness speeds up or expands. A perfect example of this is watching DATA perform a computer analysis on Star Trek Generations.

[Racsouran]

The rate of change is speeding up to every perception of a second. The watch you are viewing was made by humans to calculate time.

An example of this is when someone is in a car accident and everything appears to slow down like you are in slow motion. Although your watch is ticking perfectly, your awareness and consciousness slows down.

Well, the opposite also occurs when your consciousness speeds up or expands. A perfect example of this is watching DATA perform a computer analysis on Star Trek Generations.

i know all that, you didn´t answered my question.

[Suriel]

I feel NO time. :)

Here is another good article to read regarding the time material - LINK (http://www.prophetsmanual.com/content/index.cfm?navID=4&itemID=4)

[dolphin]

I feel NO time. :)

suriel, thanks for the links and info. what you just described is what i've been reading about how our dna will be "awakened" from a 2 strand to a 3 strand helix. when this timeline shift occurs some will awaken that part of the brain which has been dormant due to 3rd density and where we, earth, that is, in the galactic cosmos as we enter the photon belt, as you've stated every 26,000 years. your info confirms half past human's predictions that many of the dark humans, ie TPTB will just disappear. and people won't understand where they went. also w the oct 7th. date!

so interesting how all the puzzle pieces of info from difft sources i've been reading seem to now all seemingly corroborate each other.

very exciting times indeed. can you imagine being able to access that dormant part of our brain and our psychic abilities flourishing. wow!

[Racsouran]

I feel NO time. :)

Here is another good article to read regarding the time material - LINK (http://www.prophetsmanual.com/content/index.cfm?navID=4&itemID=4)


i also feel eternity but...... :sweatdrop: ok, i give up on you, :mfr_lol:

[Suriel]

Hello Dolphin. I too see how this is coming together. And that is why I want others to share this information. I believe that this material is the key to our spiritual evolution.

I was always interested in the 4th dimension when I heard about it in my logic math class in college. Although that was in 1991. I have come a long way since then in finally understanding what this is all about.

When my math teacher started writing on the chalk board about 4D, a bell went off in my head. I remember walking with my professor on campus talking about 4D because I felt it was so important for some reason. And here you go :)

Living in a 4D reality is like a lucid dream where real is more real than real. This is what we get to experience. Very bright colors. Enhanced sound. Etc.

Peace.

[Racsouran]

Hello Dolphin. I too see how this is coming together. And that is why I want others to share this information. I believe that this material is the key to our spiritual evolution.

I was always interested in the 4th dimension when I heard about it in my logic math class in college. Although that was in 1991. I have come a long way since then in finally understanding what this is all about.

When my math teacher started writing on the chalk board about 4D, a bell went off in my head. I remember walking with my professor on campus talking about 4D because I felt it was so important for some reason. And here you go :)

Living in a 4D reality is like a lucid dream where real is more real than real. This is what we get to experience. Very bright colors. Enhanced sound. Etc.

Peace.

yeaaaahhh i agree to that and i have experienced that; but you don´t have managed to explain the point better and it was very simple: the frames per unit of time of the universe our consciousness perceive become increased, making our experience here in this dimension seems like a cartoon in comparison with the quality of the experience in that other dimension.

What happens really?: the frequency increases. So each wave gives our consciousness information, if that wave´s frequency increases, you are able to perceive a universe that seems more real than what you are experiencing here.

I have seen beings that were more real than me in dreams, awesome sight.


Think of a game or a movie wich uses frames per second, imagine that 3d is 30 frames per second. 4D would be 60 frames per second, as an example so simple that all of you can understand.

Then end result is an overal major smoothness enhancement in perception acuity.

but, with all that a new door is opened to new horizons, with new pleasures, and new sufferings available because the range of emotions gets widened indeed.

[Suriel]

Rac,

I think I have explained everything quite well. I do appreciate your input.

Peace be with you.

[Racsouran]

Rac,

I think I have explained everything quite well. I do appreciate your input.

Peace be with you.

sorry, but you are not perfect.

[Suriel]

Rac,

If you have a question, you need to be more specific. And you are right, I am not perfect. Thanks for pointing that out.

I will be glad to share with you my thoughts and feelings on any subject as long as you are respectful. Although, I am not on this forum to disprove or prove anything. I am only sharing information.

Peace be with you.

[Racsouran]

Rac,

If you have a question, you need to be more specific. And you are right, I am not perfect. Thanks for pointing that out.

I will be glad to share with you my thoughts and feelings on any subject as long as you are respectful. Although, I am not on this forum to disprove or prove anything. I am only sharing information.

Peace be with you.

no one is perfect, saying that you are not perfect is being disrespectful?.

you didn´t explained something, and i pointed that. But you said you did, while, i said you did not.

Maybe that was explained in the links you posted, but i am too lazy to read them. So if the explanation was there, you didn´t explained anyrthing, the links did. :naughty:

[Suriel]

Rac,

So what is your question??

Is there anything about the material you would like to discuss?

:biggrin2:

[Irving]

I have absolutely been feeling the quickening of passing time as of lately. That information you provide is really interesting. I'm excited about the future man. It's very interesting to be among so many people are unaware (as if I'm even fully aware! ha!) lately as these changes are happening. I notice people mentioning that time seems to be flying by lately and that things seem like they are changing in ways they can't describe and so forth. It's really interesting having the knowledge that I do because their comments reinforce my intuition and information.

[Racsouran]

Rac,

So what is your question??

Is there anything about the material you would like to discuss?

:biggrin2:

so that is your sense of humour eh?... :sleep_1:

[Suriel]

Hello Irving,

Thanks. I am currently doing research on the flower of life. And I find that really interesting. And the other day, I was eating a banana. I cut the banana in half and noticed the geometrical pattern.

I think fractals are also the key somehow.

Peace.

[Racsouran]

Hello Irving,

Thanks. I am currently doing research on the flower of life. And I find that really interesting. And the other day, I was eating a banana. I cut the banana in half and noticed the geometrical pattern.

I think fractals are also the key somehow.

Peace.

Everything is fractal. 3d>4d is a fractal equivalent to the different lengts of the branches of a leaf if you look closely.

If you look more closely earth is an image of yourself fractalized on the frame in wich you perceive it´s entirety.


Everything is a mathematical equation plus something that no one can understand, even god-the source itself.

[Greg10036]

Imagine that we are riding the spiral timewave. Time is speeding up. Well according to gus, from this forum entry (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message623862/pg1), he is saying that October 7th is the beginning of the intense speeding up cycle.

What do you think? Is there a correlation between the web bot material and timewave zero? Things are going to get mighty interesting from here on out.

Enjoy.

:)

Classical Chinese termed this the "dragon lines of the universe." The scientific term now is anisotrophic wave. You can read about this in the archives of enterprisemission.com. An anisotrophic wave is trillions of miles long. It is an extremely low frequency wavelength. It has two energetic properties. One is wave properties. The other property is spiralling. The wave motion is temporal. The spiral motion is spatial. Time and space, or time and matter. All the best.
Greg

[SuperManny]

.. I am currently doing research on the flower of life. And I find that really interesting. And the other day, I was eating a banana. I cut the banana in half and noticed the geometrical pattern.
Fascinating subject...
I recommend the work of Drunvalo Melchizadek. I took his 3-day Flower of Life workshop, and I haven't been the same since! :thumb_yello:

Thanks for this thread, I find this stuff fascinating as well...

I definitely feel something big coming, just can't place my finger on it, other than the obvious economic meltdown, but I think it has something to do with the elections. :shocked:

[Mori]

Zero point is a fascinating theory. It's a wonderful way to look at consciousness.

Rac, sometimes it's difficult to see a question in a paragraph by someone else when the language spoken is not native. Your english spelling is good but the sentence structure needs just a little more practice.

Suriel, I saw the question Rac asked. He asked how you personally felt about the theory.

Now quit your squabling.:mfr_lol:

Excellent discussion so far with many interesting points of view.

[Greg10036]

My curiosity lies more in the meta-physical ideals of our existence and McKenna's outlook on it. What is Zero-Point? Some of the Camelot interviewees have been asked about this idea and say it is Meta-Physical BS. But I wonder. As quantum physics discovers more and more about our 'reality', it seems to merge with long talked about meta-physical ideas. Reality as a hologram, the speeding up and slowing down of time proven by the GPS satellites, as well as data from astronomy and archeology.

Could it be that we will experience a "Zero Point" which is like the ending of a computer program? And that possibly ALL of physicality is a programmed experience, a hologram, an illustion which exists in perception only? If so, how much of what we see/feel/hear or otherwise experience exists outside of the program? Only the souls of the people/beings? If so, are ETs just a program input with no real existence outside of it or do they represent/embody souls as well? What about the 'evil factions' of Reptilitan/Illuminati/Greys etc. which much of this forum focuses on? Program or real?

Perhaps "Zero Point", the end of 'newness', means we have seen and experienced all that 'we' are supposed to see and experience here. End of the linear program, myth, math and metaphor returning to the Source. The buzzer sounds like at the end of a football game and we all leave the field to go home. Maybe some players will be asleep on the field when the buzzer sounds and they will have to play another game after the clock is re-set. And the ones who played well get to go on to another realm which is more 'real'.

There are definitely more pieces of this puzzle to be discovered ever so quickly. I'm ready for sumpn new!

If you look up LIGO on the internet, you will see that scientist are trying to create a man sized quantum body. An atom the size of a man. Meditation and Gung Fu training teach set point, which is personal development on a non-machine technologic level of a personal quantum size body. Once a Zen monk made a circle in the air with his stick and asked the student, "Where is the center of the circle?" It is an unanswered question. The reason it cannot be answered is because it cannot be asked from any discernable reference point. It has no metric and no substance. Zero Point is a renewable state of being in every person. It is not outside a person. Regarding newness, yes we have just about used up all the potential of a non-hperdimensional state of being. But then again, if you are looking for substance, it is not in the stuff around us. Zero point is inside. Each person is the potential of a quantum size body. We just do not collectively believe it yet. The ETs are people. Depending on how real a person thinks they are is a good guage for how real they think ETs are. Love and Peace.
Greg

[Suriel]

Hello Mori,

Thanks for your comment. Well there seems to be a pattern in the evolution of life which is connected to geometry and energy. I believe all living things reach a point where they ascend to higher dimensions of conscious energy. This transforms new life and new experiences. And we are reaching that point of no return where we get to experience more god conscious knowledge.

Maybe hitting the photon belt will enhance our consciousness and stabilize the polarity of all living things on Earth.

Our perception of time will speed up as our consciousness expands and then we will reach a point of understanding or just knowing at time zero. After that, we will evolve to a more mature race. This will lead to the Golden Age.

Although it may be a rocky road to get there from here. It will be an exciting journey. Much of our 3d lessons will be evaluated throughout history. We then start on a new path restarting the cycle all over again.

In the cosmic spiral we are spiritual beings living in the now with the rate of changes speeding up around us as we travel through eternity. Life itself is a miracle and an expression of all is. And we will learn how to adapt to more knowledge and more wisdom and more energy.

I believe that we are heading in a positive direction. And the very fact that we are having this discussion is proof enough that we can comprehend this material.

So as John Luke Picard always says, "Engage!" :)

[Racsouran]

Zero point is a fascinating theory. It's a wonderful way to look at consciousness.

Rac, sometimes it's difficult to see a question in a paragraph by someone else when the language spoken is not native. Your english spelling is good but the sentence structure needs just a little more practice.

Suriel, I saw the question Rac asked. He asked how you personally felt about the theory.

Now quit your squabling.:mfr_lol:

Excellent discussion so far with many interesting points of view.


none listen to me here so ...

[MargueriteBee]

I picture myself on a surf board and the ocean is out in space:


Hey, hey, hey,
let's ride the wave.
Hey, hey, hey,
ride the time wave.


I know it's kooky but I couldn't help myself.:lmao: I just love having the work day over so soon! Then when I get home I slide it back and slow it down.

[whalerider]

Suriel-

I have read that the negatively polarized entities will be misinformed by the global elite after the timeline split. The global elite (aka the Vatican/Jesuit Order) will fabricate a story to explain the unexplainable disappearance of hundreds of millions of people (hopefully more), whom in reality have actually chosen the positively polarized path, and are now existing on an alternative timeline. The people on the negative path will be told that those souls whom vanished off the face of the earth were victims of the Rapture of God, and have been enternally condemned to the depths of Hell.

anyone ever hear of this possibility??

always seeking Truth, haven't found it yet! :mfr_lol:




********************************

may WIDSOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

When I read your posting, the Georgia Guidestones came to mind. Maybe the splitting of the two groups is 'how' the reduction of the earth's population takes place? Now that's a new take on what appears to be a dire prediction of doom and gloom on the GG's by the PTB reducing the earth's population . Instead, we enter a future where the population is reduced because of CHOICE of those who split and go the way of dimensional transition.

[Mori]

one thing i don´t have clear still, is that, when you talk that in this times speeds goes up in time, what do you personally feel?:

-time passes fast: you feel a week has passes as if it was some days or less.

or

-You feel time passes slowly: feeling that u have lived, more LIFE in less time: in one week the worth of experience of several months.


What do you feel?.

I always felt the second.


i have seen some long videos on Ian lungol´s work too, interesting to a degree on the explanation of the mayan calendar, you can get some good videos on emule of him or on google video, i reccomend them if you are interested.


This your question? What do you feel?

[ijiaii]

Imagine...

Bright minds working for Humanity.

I'll take that future...

[Suriel]

I wanted to share this regarding the Georgia Guidestones. It's a cut and paste but I wanted to put it here for quick reference:

MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000
IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY —
IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING
NEW LANGUAGE

RULE PASSION — FAITH — TRADITION
AND ALL THINGS
WITH TEMPERED REASON

PROTECT PEOPLE AND NATIONS
WITH FAIR LAWS AND JUST COURTS

LET ALL NATIONS RULE INTERNALLY
RESOLVING EXTERNAL DISPUTES
IN A WORLD COURT

AVOID PETTY LAWS AND USELESS
OFFICIALS

BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITH
SOCIAL DUTIES.

PRIZE TRUTH — BEAUTY — LOVE —
SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE
INFINITE

BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH —
LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE —
LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE

It looks like some of these laws have been broken. Oh my :shocked:

[Racsouran]

Mori!!! dont you know to read too?. :trumpet::welcomeani::mfr_omg::lightsabre:


i feel this:

"-You feel time passes slowly: feeling that u have lived, more LIFE in less time: in one week the worth of experience of several months."

that goes exactly in coherence with Mckenna´s theory.

[Mori]

Mori!!! dont you know to read too?. :trumpet::welcomeani::mfr_omg::lightsabre:

Yes, but unless you're conducting a poll the two multiple choice answers must be disregarded. The media gives multiple choice polls to sway the public opinion.

If you want an honest answer then a final option must be given that can be in essay format that is able to define personal opinion, because if neither choice given is the opinion of the person answering then it would be wrong to answer the question with a lie.

When discussing theory the answers as well as the question is based on opinion.

[Morgan]

i feel this:

"-You feel time passes slowly: feeling that u have lived, more LIFE in less time: in one week the worth of experience of several months."

that goes exactly in coherence with Mckenna´s theory.

Is it a bad sign then, if I feel like I can no longer accomplish as much in a week as I used to get done in a few days!?

I feel like time is blowing right past me.

Interesting thread, I need to read it over to take it all in, but this time thing was curious.

[Racsouran]

Is it a bad sign then, if I feel like I can no longer accomplish as much in a week as I used to get done in a few days!?

I feel like time is blowing right past me.

Interesting thread, I need to read it over to take it all in, but this time thing was curious.


a bad sign? :mfr_lol:

it´s not wonderful to feel u haven´t wasted a piece of your time¿?.


It´s not wonderful to see that, the INTENSITY of what your are experiencing, is so full of something, that it makes your sould worthy of being alive?.

Well, this is emotional, a call to a very emotional perception but, the difference i wanna emphasize is, that it exists, between what i feel, and what it is to feel that time passes fast (a week in three days worht of experience, for example) and nothing makes you stop and say :" wow, this particular thing, make me forget about time", simply because there wasn´t anything worth remembering.

[RubyTuesday]

Suriel, I love this thread and your insights. I tend to agree w/what you are saying. I believe we are here making a choice.

I'm also feeling time alteration. It seems that evening comes so fast, before I've had time to contemplate much. This leads me to stay up much later each night like I'm "cramming" for an exam. :lol3: Then suddenly it's the weekend yet again! My youngest is turning 3 this month and I swear it feels like she should be only 18 months or so. The same for my other 2 kids...it's like I've lost almost 2 years somehow.

[pilot]

For me time is speeding up the last week as flown by which is now happening on aregular basis.Also been seeing 11:11 a lot lately. luke

Hey Indiana,

me too 11:11 all the time these past two weeks and I used to see it very rarely, like once or twice a year. Hm.

[Carol]

In reading this thread I'm really impressed with the exchange of ideas. Thank you suriel for starting this thread. We've been discussing the linkage of the timewave graph to halfpasthumans graft. It is amazing.

October 7th and the Timewave/the shape of the graph, appears to be very significant. In addition, this particular time period is akin to standing at the edge of the financial global matrix and watching it unravel. I feel like I'm sitting in a dark moving theatre, tension is building. I'm waiting for the major climatic moment while anxiously chewing my fingernails... please pass the popcorn. :lol3:

[rhythm]

fab info thankyou 4 that :wub2:

[Suriel]

You are welcome Carol and Rhythm. Right now I will be doing more research on Polarity Consciousness. When we hit the crossroads in 2012, I'm curious about how there will be a split between the population. It may not happen in one day. It could take a few thousand years or less than a hundred. There may be a single event that wipes the slate clean and we start over again. Or we may eventually create spiritual technology that will alter our evolution.

My guess is there will be a clan of spiritual people living with nature, technological people in domes, and people underground in tunnels. This reminds me of the fate of Mu and Atlantis.

I believe that somehow the Pyramids are also connected. The egyptians were on to something. This link talks more about the pyramids (http://brainmind.com/MeteorStorm.html) and the solar cycles.

Here is a quote from the link above:

The genetic seeds of life swarm throughout the cosmos, and these genetic "seeds," these living creatures, fell to Earth, encased in stellar debris which pounded the Earth for 700 millions years after the creation. And these "seeds" contained the DNA-instructions for the metamorphosis of all life, including woman and man.

DNA acts to purposefully modify the environment, which acts on gene selection, so as to fullfill specific genetic goals: the dispersal and activation of silent DNA and the replication of life forms that long ago lived on other planets.

It's all part of the cosmic cycle.

Here is another link (http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/SODA_chapter10.html) talking about "Spiralling Evolution" which also talks about timewave zero, torsion fields, and changes in our solar system.

Peace.

[tone3jaguar]

When we hit the crossroads in 2012, I'm curious about how there will be a split between the population. It may not happen in one day. It could take a few thousand years or less than a hundred. There may be a single event that wipes the slate clean and we start over again. Or we may eventually create spiritual technology that will alter our evolution.

My guess is there will be a clan of spiritual people living with nature, technological people in domes, and people underground in tunnels. This reminds me of the fate of Mu and Atlantis.

I believe that somehow the Pyramids are also connected. The egyptians were on to something.

I have too investigated the logistics of the split in society by listening to various videos and audio recordings on the subject. The one that comes to mind first is the original Project Camelot David Wilcock video interview.

Since that time I have heard David talk in more detail about this in some of the audio blogs he posts on his website www.divinecosmos.com. My summary of these testimonies, channelings, black ops testimonies and etc. is pretty simple.

Basically, about 66% of the population will end up getting the DNA upgrades before the window for ascension is over. Of the 33% left here a small population will live through the pole shift. Some above ground and some below ground. The ones below ground end up getting genetically altered for some reason unknown and end up looking like the typical alien grey we are all so framiliar with. The ones above ground end up looking like people from Iceland. Blond hair, blue eyes and etc. So for the people left in 3d, there will be a 2 way split. The two ways being the positive and the negative.

Of the people who move on there will initially be a 3 way split in 4th density. There will be a core group that are aware and ready to experience the full aspects of 4th density right out of the hole. The rest of the people will recreate the 3rd density world they are framiliar with in 4th density. These people are the ones that are not in fear consciousness, but are oblivious to the change that has just occured. This group of people will create 2 compartmentalized zones in 4th density with thier core beliefs. The pessimistic ones will create a problematic replication of 3rd density, the optimistic ones will create a clean upgraded version of 3rd density. It will seem the same to them with the exception that they are now for some reason spontainiously manifesting things like healing, material goods etc.

So I guess technically it will be an initial 5 way split. Then as the ones who ascended and did not realize it at first continue on thier spiritual path upwards they will join those in the full on 4th density. At this point it will be a three way split. I guess it will be 4 way if you seperate the ones in 3rd density into two sectors.

Is that confusing enough?

[Suriel]

tone3jahuar you put much thought in your analysis. I agree there will be many changes in our human evolution. I hope that what ever timeline we end up in is a good one.

If I could create a timeline I would want the elimination of the current money system to end the slavery. I would also encourage free energy. Of course, there is the matter of the cleansing of Mother Earth.

War is a big No No. And trust will be built in creating a one world consciousness.

But the interesting topic is how this is all going to go down or up.

:)

[tone3jaguar]

I guess the logistics are more for self interest than something that people need to focus on. When it comes right down to it, all people need to know is to be in the moment and greatful for everything in thier lives. If the can accomplish this then all of the other stuff is just interesting filler info.

[Natoka]

SURIEL said: "We will be entering an age where we will think less with our minds and more with our hearts, which is a good thing."

Total agreement, suriel. That opening of the heart has been my path for the past ten years. I let my mind be guided and informed by my heart. Life has become a joy to me, regardless of circumstances and future possibilities.

Natoka

[mudra]

For Suriel and all others interested in the great shift point , here is very interesting material I just found:

http://www.halexandria.org/dward421.htm

kindness

mudra

[Suriel]

“According to the mathematical model, we should see approximately 61 more of these species-changing developments before 12/21/2012! All of the same magnitude as the three noted above! Again, it’s only a model, but they predict 18 of those changes on the last day, and 13 of those to happen in the last fraction of a second, as things accelerate towards that infinity point.


This means that we are going to witness many historical events before 2012.

Rather than any possible trepidation at the idea of an “End of Time”, one should always remember that in cyclical (or circular/spherical locations such as the Earth), what might seem like “the end of the world”, may in fact be “the beginning.”

We will enter a new cycle with a higher vibration.

Nice article. I think that sums it up pretty well.

:)

[ctophil]

Hey everyone,

I normally don't quote the Bible, since this is mostly a secular forum. But I do have scripture that talks about days that will be sped up during times of tribulation. This goes together with your timeline speeding up from October 7th to 2012. Just to let you guys know, we have entered the Great Tribulation since October 1st. And I quote from the Book of Matthew:

Matthew 24:21-22 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

-Phillip

[Jonah]

This info provided by Mckenna has been around alot longer than the bot stuff has.

[DavidTangredi]

I wanted to add a couple of comments on time and 4th Density, for those interested.

I do Akashic Records Consultations. Twice this summer, I had a very interesting experience while doing a reading, something I had never experienced before. Both readings were done in a room (different rooms) where there was a clock that ticked audibly. In both cases, I could actually hear time shift. While in the reading, the clock ticked either faster or slower than normal. Once the reading was done, the ticking went back to normal. I thought that was very interesting because although I had felt time pass differently (after the fact), I had never actually experience it moving at a different rate.

Now, as I am in the records regularly, I find myself getting all sorts of wisdom coming through. For example, I was told that
o 3rd Density is about expressing self and learning love (at least a minimal amount)
o 4th Density will be about expressing love and learning wisdom

The expressing of love will just naturally occur because of the new "rules" of the game. For example, telepathy and empathy will be normal senses in 4D. Consider the following occurrence:

You are at the market and some stranger is rude to you. In 3D, it could push a button and you can get angry or upset and react. In 4D, you would now have access to more information. Let's say that through the new senses, you learn that this person just lost a child to an accident and are very angry. Now that you have this additional information, you won't react as much as you will choose whether to express and how to express love (compassion) to this person.

Anyway - I found this information very enlightening and thought I would share it with you all. [They had me teach a class based on this and a bunch of other stuff I "got".]

Blessings to all!
David

p.s. This is just the Service of Other's 4D that I got info on.

[inthemists]

perhaps our own consciousness will determine how we perceive the ride down the spiral...apocalyptic for some...an epic adventure for others...
certainly beyond our wildest dreams....



hello everyone- something great has arrived...can't you just feel it?

[joe2288]

:lmao: haha guess nothing happened that big except for a little drop in stocks but thats happened 3 times in the past ten years

[GoingToFast]

:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::lmao: haha guess nothing happened that big except for a little drop in stocks but thats happened 3 times in the past ten years

Hey man, haven't you heard of OCT. 14th that's when the "REALY BIG ONE´S" gonna happen whatever that is, all thees "big dates" and "big events" are just scams to make money from . IT´S JUST B.U.L.L.:mfr_lol::naughty:

[hobbit]

The really big alteration occured because of the moon, it was at quadreture, thats when it's side on to the alignment of the sun/earth, and when it's closest.
This is a matrix we are in, and a geometric matrix, nothing is how you percieve or have been TOLD.
Your eyes fool you.
The whole universe is about scale, and scale of stunning geometry, the position we are now is near the equivilant of reaching twelve O'clock on a clock face, it's about to gong.
We are on a spiral pathway that goes around and around ever getting closer to the central point.
I am alpha and Omega is in fact anode and cathode, positive and negative, dick and liddy, they are all just words.

This is an electrically driven universe, and the consequence/s of that are enormous, you have been TOLD that the craters viewed on thisplanet , the moon and all other planets are the result of metiorites, that rubbish, they are electrical discharge points, both inward and emitting points, thats what the radial marks show.

We must expect huge electrical problems, this will take down our method of so called generating electricity, thats rubbish too, they simply reconfigure what is already there, push it into a different pressure and stick a meter at the end to make you pay.
Electricity is everywhere, ask Nicola Tesla.

As we go further into the spiral point, there will come a time when we go through that point and then spiral outwards out the other side, possibly in the next dimension.
there the sun will rise where it now sets, as the spiral direction will be opposite to now.
At the spiral point, I consider all of the time of past, present and future will be there, and we will all experience that, we will all KNOW everything, a golden age of enlightenment, that will lead to thirteen thousand years of such, until we reach half way again where the scorpion will sting and the system will exhale and the planet freezes again, then the history of the past thirteen thousand years will repeat , but in it's own fashion.
THIS is the TIME to be here, cheer up everyone, it's gonna be a blast.
hobbit

[Suriel]

Good post, Hobbit! :thumb_yello:

[tone3jaguar]

The really big alteration occured because of the moon, it was at quadreture, thats when it's side on to the alignment of the sun/earth, and when it's closest.
This is a matrix we are in, and a geometric matrix, nothing is how you percieve or have been TOLD.
Your eyes fool you.
The whole universe is about scale, and scale of stunning geometry, the position we are now is near the equivilant of reaching twelve O'clock on a clock face, it's about to gong.
We are on a spiral pathway that goes around and around ever getting closer to the central point.
I am alpha and Omega is in fact anode and cathode, positive and negative, dick and liddy, they are all just words.

This is an electrically driven universe, and the consequence/s of that are enormous, you have been TOLD that the craters viewed on thisplanet , the moon and all other planets are the result of metiorites, that rubbish, they are electrical discharge points, both inward and emitting points, thats what the radial marks show.

We must expect huge electrical problems, this will take down our method of so called generating electricity, thats rubbish too, they simply reconfigure what is already there, push it into a different pressure and stick a meter at the end to make you pay.
Electricity is everywhere, ask Nicola Tesla.

As we go further into the spiral point, there will come a time when we go through that point and then spiral outwards out the other side, possibly in the next dimension.
there the sun will rise where it now sets, as the spiral direction will be opposite to now.
At the spiral point, I consider all of the time of past, present and future will be there, and we will all experience that, we will all KNOW everything, a golden age of enlightenment, that will lead to thirteen thousand years of such, until we reach half way again where the scorpion will sting and the system will exhale and the planet freezes again, then the history of the past thirteen thousand years will repeat , but in it's own fashion.
THIS is the TIME to be here, cheer up everyone, it's gonna be a blast.
hobbit

Yes, glad you brought this up. For those of you in the dark about the electrical universe theroy you should watch this video. It is called thunderbolts of the gods.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374&ei=PjztSLKHG5SM-QGA3ZzuAQ&q=thunderbolts+of+the+gods&hl=en

It is also important to point out that under the hyperdimensional physics model the energy of a planetary body is determined by the angular velocity in relation to the sun and the center of the galaxy. This has been mathmatically proven by Richard Hoagland and his team of scientists.

[inthemists]

iv'e always wondered if we are in an "electrical "universe, if electricity is
conscious....i think the universe is superconscious.....the electric universe theory is antiquated...sort of dark age stuff.....
however, i do agree, we are in for the ride of our lives...:yikes:

[tone3jaguar]

According to the hyperdimensional physics model all of the electricity in our 3d universe is being pulled out of the 4th dimension. Many people are unaware that Brook Maxwell's original work back in the late 1800's included a 4 dimensional model. He used this model to come up with all of the basic equations used by electrical engineers today.

A couple years after his death some other scientists swooped in and erased the 4th dimensional stuff, got rid of all of the original work and told everyone that it should really be a 3d model. So we where basically robbed of the mathmatics nessesary for free energy devices over 100 years ago. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

[Cymatic Veilbegone]

just real briefly, kudos to everyone on this thread for their integrity and conviction to maintaining a positive tone. Moments like this continue to reaffirm my alignment with Avalon community and its energy.

Ive been silently following this thread and some others in astonishment over what appear to be a few presences/vibes that seem intent upon being argumentative purely for the sake of dissent, or perhaps in an attempt to lure threaders down a dark hole of anger and animosity.

Are these subversive attempts at what St.Clair describes as one bad apple (consciously) ruining the energy level of a group?

or ... is this a real-time example of unconscious polarization...happening right before our eyes?

..either way....wow!

Anyway, I dont want to dwell on this phenomenon too much... it doesnt deserve very much of my conscious energy, but I really felt I had to applaud all of you for not allowing another resonance to sway the tone or the topic. You guys all rock!

also...quick note concerning polarization/dimensional shifts based on resonance...

Cliff from HPH mentioned in his C2C interview that they also got some strange correlations for the coming years concerning people "dissappearing into thin air"... is this further support of the theory or just a strange coincidence? hmmm

CV

[Suriel]

Hello Cymatic,

I agree it does get frustrating when people try to knock you off your flow of energy. We can all benefit from staying focused on the material instead of debunking every thought on the forum. There are others out there that enjoy to argue. But anyway.... :thumbdown:

But to get to your question about the disappearing people. That is a very interesting subject to me. I believe it may have something to do with the time shift that will occur. I found a very nice lady that talks about this material. I enjoyed listening to her approach on how the Earth is splitting into two Earths. One will be the 3d and the other Earth will go to a new Earth Dimension. So when we ascend with the Earth, all the bad people disappear.
Now, I don't know if this will happen. So those of you that want to debate, I'm just sharing the material. I've always been interested in the Paranormal, so I tend to explore many avenues of open-minded material. It's just something fun and a hobbie of mine.

Cool stuff.

Here is the description and the links to Dolores Cannon:

Description:
Lost Knowledge, Past Lives & ETs

Past-life regressionist Dolores Cannon discussed her recovery and cataloging of "Lost Knowledge." She said she's developed her own hypnosis technique-- taking clients into the deepest level of trance-- into a kind of "universal consciousness." During this state, she gleans information from them about their past lives, ETs, and the metaphysical realms.

"Everything has consciousness," and people have lived previous lives vibrating at different frequencies as plants, rocks, and even air, she declared. The ETs involved in alien abductions are among the "archaic ones" who created mankind—they're monitoring humans over health and environmental concerns, Cannon said. Their original plan was to create a perfect species who could live forever, without disease, but a meteor hit Earth bringing bacteria and illness, she noted.

The ETs built underground cities deep below the earth, connected by tunnels, with the entrances underneath pyramids, Cannon continued. She also spoke about 2012 in terms of being a dimensional shift into "the New Earth," and touched on her work with Nostradamus. She believes she communicated across time with the great seer, who told her the future is not set in stone, but there are certain "nexus points" (an event or personality) that have to happen.

Books

The Convoluted Universe - Book Three

Conversations With Nostradamus Vol. I

Conversations with Nostradamus Vol. II

Conversations with Nostradamus Vol. III

Keepers of the Garden

Part One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw_pEZ4I5VQ)
Part Two (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFl6fhGdPJk)
Part Three (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUTtNMByJBs)
Part Four (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZLnbljLPG8)
Part Five (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG6K2pYmEb0)
Part Six (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VBcntIhVJE)
Part Seven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHB05X6A3zE) (2012, New Earth)
Part Eight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjnapiX0bxQ)
Part Nine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vya5enD5yFU)
Part Ten (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvER0XsU8Iw)
Part Eleven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEBMwJfAsE8)
Part Twelve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMoFlj6Meg0)

If you are in to this kind of thing you will enjoy Dolores Cannon. She talks about reincarnation, life after death, ETs, 2012, New Earth, and Karma.

Peace.

[singyousing]

Here (http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Terence-McKenna-December-21st-2012-Timewave-Zero/32928f83c51ed53199ef88497f735698d3ff006706bc) is a link to a torrent download of Mckenna's timewave-zero software.
Most likely you will need a DOS emulator (http://www.dosbox.com/) to run this program.

And here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8701042459684666916&ei=00XuSMTiDJKYrQLYo_HCBg) is a link to a video of Mckenna briefly explaining timewave-zero.

[trainedobserver]

We are currently living in a 16 hour day in a 24 hour period. I have noticed that my minutes of consciousness have doubled from one to two.

How did you measure that? Did you make a chart of subjective time impressions over a period of time until you noticed a complete doubling? Other than doing that I don't see how one would be able to know. Everyone, as far as I can tell, has always experienced time as a plastic subjective individualized thing. The older you get the faster time appears to pass, however its an individual thing. The young are experiening time as you did as a youngster. Or so it seems. In reality, no one experiences 'real time' ... whatever that actually is, they experience their indiviudlized 'mind-time'.

[inthemists]

according to the hyperdimensional physics model all of the electricity in our 3d universe is being pulled out of the 4th dimension. Many people are unaware that brook maxwell's original work back in the late 1800's included a 4 dimensional model. He used this model to come up with all of the basic equations used by electrical engineers today.

A couple years after his death some other scientists swooped in and erased the 4th dimensional stuff, got rid of all of the original work and told everyone that it should really be a 3d model. So we where basically robbed of the mathmatics nessesary for free energy devices over 100 years ago. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

by all means , an interesting theory, jaguar.

[deb003]

I think we're entering the Age of the Mystic.

[Suriel]

Hello Avalon Members,

I have been getting many questions about how time is speeding up. So, I found an article that talks about this material:

Some people believe time is speeding up. This idea is based on observation that the difference between subjective and objective assessments of time have increased over the past decade. For instance, time seems to be flying by faster than ever, or what used to take several years to accomplish now seems to be taking place in just a couple. In the 2012 paradigm, this idea serves to correlate the prophesied dissolution of time with immediate personal observations. I believe two simultaneous phenomena are contributing to this perception.

The first is that there has been an ongoing reduction in novelty among trivial trends. This means an increase in routine and repetition in all things mundane, both personal and cultural. Television and internet have also become more deeply embedded in modern life, increasing the amount of time we spend being mentally asleep during the day, decreasing the quality and quantity of memories. Due to distraction, repetition, and routine, the recent past offers less memorable content to reflect upon and thus appears shortened. When consulting the calendar we therefore notice the days flying by.

The second is that there has been a simultaneous increase in novelty among spiritually significant trends. Rate of growth among receptive individuals in terms of awareness and emotional maturity is accelerating. You may have changed more in the past two years than you did in the five years before that. When more personal growth is crammed into a shorter amount of time, it appears that things have picked up pace and more ground is being covered more quickly.

The combination of “days flying by” and “having come so far in so few years” contributes to our perception that time is speeding up. These may both be symptomatic of the shift from 3D to 4D if we recognize that linear time is giving way to nonlinear time, that priorities are shifting from the trivial to the spiritual in accordance with the 2012 and related paradigms. Linear time is measured in increments of trivialities such as astronomical or atomic motions, while nonlinear time is delineated in increments of freewill progressions. With a shift of priorities, trivialities fade into a repeating background pattern while spiritual events (leaps in awareness and maturity) increase in their frequency and novelty, both of which lead to the perception that time is speeding up for different reasons.

We may extrapolate this accelerating trend into the future and conclude that in the end, linear time will mean nothing and nonlinear time will mean everything. Or to put it another way, trivialities and the calendar will cease to exist for us altogether while increments of spiritual progress and freewill choices will be the new standard.

There is another interesting trend worth noting, which is that the more recently a person awakens from programmed sleep and into the pursuit of truth, the more rapid his or her growth from that point onward. I know several people who started their paths in the 1960s and 70s, and it took them about two decades to complete the first pass of their research, to come full circle and finally see the bigger picture. My awakening began in 1993 and I did not reach that point until 2003, so about a decade. Those I know who began in 2001 reached it by 2004, so three years. Now I am coming across people who are doing it in under a year, sometimes just a few months.

Part of that trend is due to the increased availability, quality, diversity, and accessibility of information pertaining to matters of truth. Those of the 60s and 70s had books, newsletters, telephone, personal meetings and mail correspondence. Then came fax machines, personal computers, BBS networks, personal printing and photocopying. Then came easy duplication of storage media, the internet with its websites, forums, and radio shows, and now we have broadband internet, wifi spots, p2p filesharing and free video streaming. For all its downsides, recent technology has served to accelerate the awakening, albeit indirectly and at the risk of de-socialization.

Another factor behind that trend may involve the fact that it doesn’t matter when or how we start, but when and where we end up. In other words, it doesn’t matter that someone started early but took longer while another starts late and through some crash courses has reached similar levels of awareness. What matters is that when the time comes, people are on the same page and capable of carrying out what they came here to do, and so those who start late will indeed have to learn more quickly to be ready in time.

I think both the technological and metaphysical parts are related, the first serving the latter as part of some greater plan. And yes, I am aware that Ahrimanic/NWO forces are behind the flowering of technology, that the internet is the perfect device for profiling dissenters and so on, however the dark side takes a gamble with everything it does and risks having its means unexpectedly judo-flipped into accomplishing unintentionally positive ends.

Now if we project this trend into the future, we can see that there will be an increasing number of people awakening, and they will have to get with the picture quicker than ever, perhaps due to the simple spreading of awareness among those desperate for answers in increasingly desperate times. This suggests that demand will skyrocket along with the availability and quality of information, but supply can only meet demand if there are more sources available to provide it, more people refining and providing it. We cannot expect technology like the internet to stick around forever, and so dissemination of guidance and information may increasingly shift towards personal rather than technological methods.

In a practical sense, for us this means we would do well to initially become better educated on matters of truth and grow more skilled in communicating them. It is a good idea to become more streamlined, discerning, and capable of providing primary sources like books, websites, videos, etc… to the receptive when the occasion arises. Why? Both to increase our capacity to meet the potential future demand, and to presently act as a channel for synchronicity to trigger the awakening and empowerment of others.

We are the only civilization in the Universe that has created a way to measure time. And even this human made clock system is not perfect.

Is Time an Illusion (http://www.socialtext.net/wired-mag/index.cgi?is_time_an_illusion)? Good Question.

Plato argued that time is constant - it’s life that’s the illusion. Galileo shrugged over the philosophy of time and figured out how to plot it on a graph so he could get on with the important physics. Albert Einstein said that time is just another dimension, a fourth one to go along with the up-down, side-side, forward-back we move through every day. Our understanding of time, Einstein said, is based on its relationship to our environment. Weirdly, the faster you travel, the slower time moves. The most radical interpretation of his theory: Past, present, and future are merely figments of our imagination, constructs built by our brains so that everything doesn’t seem to happen at once.

Einstein’s conception of unified spacetime works better on graph paper than in the real world. Time isn’t like those other dimensions - for one thing, we move only one way within it. “What’s needed is not to make the notion of time and general relativity work or to go back to the notion of absolute time, but to invent something radically new,” says Lee Smolin, a physicist at the Perimeter Institute in Waterloo, Ontario.

Others, including famed astrophysicist Stephen Hawking, note that time is defined by entropy. That is, the universe, in its current expanding direction, is becoming more and more disordered- entropy is increasing and always has been since the inception of the universe, as is time. Thus, time can represented as a measure of entropy in the universe.

Somebody is going to get it right eventually. It’ll just take time.

[tone3jaguar]

How did you measure that? Did you make a chart of subjective time impressions over a period of time until you noticed a complete doubling? Other than doing that I don't see how one would be able to know. Everyone, as far as I can tell, has always experienced time as a plastic subjective individualized thing. The older you get the faster time appears to pass, however its an individual thing. The young are experiening time as you did as a youngster. Or so it seems. In reality, no one experiences 'real time' ... whatever that actually is, they experience their indiviudlized 'mind-time'.

What is actually happening is that the quantity of things that happen in a given 24 hour long day is compressing. So what he is saying is that the same number of happenings that used to take 24 hours now takes only 16. So we are fitting 1.33 days into a normal day as a rough estimate.

For some people this changed every day due to thier professions before it started compressing. For those people it is not that hard to deal with. However, for the people who had a set threshold for the quantity of stuff they could deal with in a given day it is a real bitch. Because of the elevated stress levels the time seems to go by much faster than normal. Time flies when you are busy.

[Suriel]

Tone3,

Excellent response!

:thumb_yello:

[inthemists]

I think we're entering the Age of the Mystic.


ahhh... and a very interesting thought...deb003.... perhaps even 3D and 4D sciences are becoming obsolete as we progress into the mists of singularity...

there is some fascinating material on this thread...which has drawn me to it..
thank you everyone ...

some other interesting material has been written by a senior scientist named
Dean Radin, PH D, with the institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS)..about
the conscious universe.. it is pretty edgy stuff...

" a conscious universe is the only one reality that can include human consciousness..and is relevant to the whole of human life"...