View Full Version : David Wilcock's Forum is Censored
Reveling John
10-04-2008, 10:17 PM
On the dvinecosmos forum (http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/) I cannot find any references to October 14th. I've tried twice to start a new thread on the subject and it isn't visible after two days. I don't know who moderates David's forums, but it's a very strange phenomenon, especially considering that David Wilcock has publicly dismissed the event and subsequently the credibility of the channeler.
Lunaris
10-04-2008, 10:20 PM
yes they are totally censored there...the mods wont let u post anything they dont agree with even if its important.
Reveling John
10-04-2008, 10:35 PM
Well, that blows. I really like and feel David Wilcock. He's always got a positive perspective on current events. I suppose 'positive' implies that the 'negative' must be suppressed. that's unfortunate...
Especially when the Oct. 14th meme (http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/index.html?page=BGchannellings_page2.html) has such positive energy attached to it (as far as I'm concerned).
MusicLover
10-04-2008, 10:36 PM
I love David Wilcox but I wonder about how much truth he is telling...whats the fear,is it cuz she is a some person who believes she is getting messages from other beings...to me it seems like an ego trip on Davids part.Whats the fear??Sure she seems nuts but doesn't he as well???I love his message but wonder about the money they all make from all this...Is it a business decision or an ego decision????Good luck to both!!!
nagualton
10-04-2008, 10:37 PM
Hmm, that's strange for David.
Lunaris
10-04-2008, 10:39 PM
i really like him too!!!! yeah...its just like you said...only positive cuz they wont allow ANYTHING they deem negative...they also wont let u get off the forum! i tried and tried and asked to be deleted but they wouldnt...i still like him but i dont understand whats going on there...
colesmommy1117
10-04-2008, 10:45 PM
From the way I understand it, David Wilcock doesn't agree with the 10/14/08 theory. this may be why it's not a topic for discussion.
nagualton
10-04-2008, 10:49 PM
He is so busy, his new album, how to promote it ... What Oct 14?
Lunaris
10-04-2008, 11:03 PM
ahahha...well if we dont hear the album how can we "awaken"???ahahhahha
Hypnotize
10-05-2008, 01:08 AM
hmm, even if he doesn't believe the oct 14th theory I still think its kinda lame that he won't even allow people to discuss it.
NancyV
10-05-2008, 01:13 AM
Having been a forum moderator many times I think it's essential to MODERATE and not let a forum be a free-for-all. Each forum has a different purpose and the owner of a forum has the right to keep to that purpose and not let things stray too far away from it.
Nancy
333mark333
10-05-2008, 01:14 AM
I too am a huge wilcock supporter. I believe that they are trying to keep the forum Positive and not allowing ANY negativity. If your posts don't go with the flow then they are scraped! negativity is not tolerated i guess.
I don't know if that's right or wrong!! its his brain-child.
Shechaiyah
10-05-2008, 01:19 AM
Really? Surprise, surprise, surprise.
And this one is not?
Oooookay.
warngen
10-05-2008, 02:39 AM
honestly, i really enjoy wilcock and his lectures etc...
on the other hand...i feel that he is a little bit too cocky...
i have listened to almost all of his audio and video interviews, and his attitude seems a little aggressive and cocky if you ask me...its just my opinion..
Suriel
10-05-2008, 02:45 AM
I tried joining his forum and they never approved it. So, I guess they didn't like my ip address. lol. :)
Shechaiyah
10-05-2008, 02:46 AM
Cocky? No. I don't get that. He speaks honestly from HIS experience.
What is POSSIBLE is that he is being DECEIVED -- as many of us are.
If you look at the panalopy of informants who talk about Subjective and ET relations, you find he's right there in the middle of them.
Hoagland and Collier and Cooper and Deagle and so forth -- they all ESSENTIALLY agree, there are a lot more intelligent hominids than Washington DC says there are or is willing to reveal, that they deal with.
We the people who pay the bills are being SCAMMED.
Shech--
ranma187
10-05-2008, 02:48 AM
I got a strange vibe from david wilcocks' forum. It just seemed a bit arrogant lol. I like listening to much of his free interviews but you won't find me buying his products.
Suriel
10-05-2008, 03:30 AM
I had a strange dream about David. I would like to share it with you.
Here was the dream:
I was walking down a road in a suburban neighborhood. And there was David mowing his lawn. He lived in a middle class neighborhood. I stopped by and said hello. David walked up to me and shook my hand. He was wearing a blue cap. We started talking about portals.
And then I looked around and all the neighbors walked out of their houses at the same time. Suddenly I realized that they were all David. And then a portal opened up and one of the neighbors got grabbed through a portal to another negative parallel Earth.
There were red reptilians everywhere in this other Earth. And all the Davids were living in a peaceful Earth with blue skies.
I guess there is a hidden message there. Anyway. lol :roll1:
333mark333
10-05-2008, 03:32 AM
I had a strange dream about David. I would like to share it with you.
Here was the dream:
I guess there is a hidden message there. Anyway. lol :roll1:
Very interesting.... conformation of David and his message
Thanks :)
isotelesis
10-05-2008, 03:43 AM
His research and contacts are top notch, he emphasizes the spiritual growth aspects rather than wild-eyed panic-stricken topics, he understands that people need the broader perspective in order to recognize their innate role as co-creators.
The guy has to walk a tight rope.
I think over time he will play a more prominent role in bringing this information to the average person, keeping them focused on the important subjects, rather than distracting red herrings.
Suriel
10-05-2008, 04:23 AM
Out of all the witnesses, I enjoyed David Wilcock's material the most. He was the main reason why I got into Project Camelot. I also believe we are on the same positive vibe.
I think the only reason why he may come off as a little cocky is because he has probably been through much criticism. So it could be a defense mechanism.
But, overall, I think he is a swell guy. :biggrin2:
Operator
10-05-2008, 04:33 AM
Hi,
Well everybody has an agenda to promote (I don't mean that negatively).
You have seen on this forum which ways it can take you there were/are even several exhaustive threads.
So if one thinks its going to drive the focus away .. the censorship is 'understandable' (I don't say acceptable).
But still it's censorship ....
Cheers
larissarissa
10-05-2008, 06:54 AM
Where's the line between judgement and observation? I feel pain for anyone who is criticised or put down for whatever reason. I'm a huge David fan, and don't like to hear bad things said about him. When I listen to him, I acknowledge his human weaknesses, but I get so blown away by his message that who cares about what his personality quirks are?
I come away from listening to him with an upliftment of spirit and a sense of optimism. Dr Deagle, on the other hand, puts me in the pits. But I still listen to his stuff, because you never know what information will be useful.
I've experienced some censorship of my posts on the DC forum, but I don't mind. The moderators are doing a great job of keeping that forum positive and free of non productive extremes. I spent the last two days on this forum getting more and more freaked out by the information and the sense of fear. So I went to David's forum, and breathed some fresh air. Ahhh what a relief!
So I love both forums. Neither will ever be perfect, neither will any of us. I have a question for myself and others - when pointing the finger at someone, how many fingers are pointing back the other way? The judgement made about someone else is really a judgement of oneself. Always.
And observations don't need to be cruel and hurtful.
Reveling John
10-05-2008, 08:22 AM
Once again, I like David, too. I'm not trying to draw out doubt as to his integrity or the overall intent of his site and products. Actually I've purchased a couple of his audio books. The point of this thread was to seek corroboration of something I'd experienced on the forum because I know that project camelot/avalon people have experience with the divinecosmos stuff.
I do find his disinterest in the specific topic I was trying to introduce as very strange, because he dismisses the rumors about 10-14, as well as the idea that anything is going to happen on that day, without addressing the actual original message, as channeled by Blossom Goodchild. From his remarks at the end of his latest blog update I get the feeling that he hasn't even read the original message, nor any of the follow ups from the channeler, which would indicate a lack of investigative effort.
Given how intelligent and well-read he is, I find that strange.
Wellerite
10-06-2008, 12:52 PM
Just so you know, I'm not stirring things up or saying there's a conspiracy BUT........
I tried to post a channeller called Kathlyn Kingdon who is in communication with the Ascended Master Djwhal Khul (yes The Tibetan who wrote through Alice Bailey) and apparently it is one of the rules that you can't post material by other channellers although they still post up Carla Rueckart recent stuff.
There may be a good reason for this as there is a lot of baloney channellings out there but i would have thought that people should judge for themselves. This upset me to the point that i never posted again ( And no i'm not a whinge-bag :tears: )
But that still doesn't discredit Wilcock in any way i feel
Check out Master DK's monthly insights;
http://masterdk.com/monthly_lesson
Ali Quadir
10-06-2008, 01:35 PM
If someone is completely convinced about his truth then they will always be called arrogant or elitist. Blossom Goodchild is full of nonsense. The fact that she would accept screenshots of google earth glitches as evidence for alien craft is completely insane.
I can completely understand Wilcocks choice to remove this information from his forum. He uses the forum as a way to inform people. Misinformation is not helping in that goal. Especially since the posted topics will end up associated with his name.
Forums are not democracies if you've been around the internet you should know this. If you want to talk Goodchild, go to Goodchild's forum or one of the gazillion others that do attempt to take google earth glitches as alien spacecraft on the verge of revealing themselves to us.
To be honest it's rather regrettable that people NEED this kind of censorship or they will end up babbling complete nonsense. This is the twentyfirst century.. There is no excuse to not be informed or educated.
And one thing that cannot be denied is that Wilcock is incredibly informed and incredibly educated. Every claim he makes is associated with references that allow everyone with access to half his brain to check the information. He has no fluffy touchy feely word clouds. Everything is fact, referenced, cross referenced and because of it you can verify his words yourself.
When I was reading his work I often thought "Hah now I've got you. This is BS..." So I went to google to check his references and lo and behold... It was all there. I learned not because I believed. I learned because I criticised, disbelieved and then verified. If you believe you'll only learn what you already think you know.
His work is the only work on the topic that I have been able to find including the camelot/avalon work that approaches scientific standard. You know why scientific standards are so high? Because people love to babble and then parrot nonsense. And you have to protect yourself from this.
Just because we like it does not make it true. Just because everyone is repeating it, does not make it true. Just because it gives us a feeling does not make it true. Just because someone refuses to take discredited information serious does not make them arrogant or elitist. It makes them experts....
micjer
10-06-2008, 02:01 PM
I agree. It is interesting that after Dr. Deagle's phone call, how everyone wanted to know what David Wilcock thought. I feel he is one I look to for answers on other topics as well. I feel the same towards David Icke. Both of the witnesses can back up their info with credible references or they do not publish it. David W cannot back up the Oct 14 th event so he doesn't want to go there.
Steve_G
10-06-2008, 02:13 PM
Just a theory... but you know he's interested in crop circles... talks about them a lot... seems to be able to translate their meaning... hmmm...
...does he have a friend called Doug...? :original:
NeoEmc2
10-06-2008, 02:20 PM
After listening to Bill Deagles phone recording I felt like packing all my stuff, the dog and running for the hills. The guy sounds like a mess and it's affecting his daily life it sounds like. I think he might be under psychic attack (but that's just me). Then I listened to David's recording and it was full of hope. You can almost feel the forces of good Vs evil working. One is full of doom and gloom and the other is full of positivity and holding his head up, looking at the world straight in the eye. I think David is the man.
Steve_G
10-06-2008, 02:33 PM
I think Deagle was the ground zero of a psychic fear bomb. He got the full force, then the effects spread out as the interview is heard. I felt it hit me like a wave but didn't realise what had happened until the next morning. Hearing Wilcock was the balance to it, so fair play to him and very well done.
Feel genuinely sorry for Deagle, it must have been horrific for him.
symbolon
10-06-2008, 07:04 PM
David Wilcock's Forum has strange dynamics. There seems to be this whiff of arrogance permeating his site that stifles creative thinking. Personally i like David Wilcock a lot. To my mind, the man has an awful lot to say, but there is this 'David is God' sensibility prevalent throughout. Of course it's not the fault of it's membership, but the stoic censorship of it's moderators.
Sarahmay
10-06-2008, 07:10 PM
David Wilcock's Forum has strange dynamics.
I find his forum VERY boring as a result of the censorship.
Whitewolf
10-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Regardless of David's ego, which comes off as rather large to me, I find his uplifting messages just that: uplifting. His positivity is a necessary balance to the onslaught of constant negativity spread all throughout the internet. What I DO have a problem with is his blind support for Barack Obama. It surprises me given the insight he seems to have regarding the global elite and its plans for world domination. I attempted to post up an article that I copied and pasted from another website which criticised Mr. Obama, and was shocked to see that 2 days later the article never made it onto the site. I never even received a private message to explain why the article never appeared. In my humble estimation, that is what I call censorship. It's one thing to disagree with an opinion, but it's an entirely different thing altogether to silence those who disagree. The article wasn't even an attack, it was simply a critical analysis of Barack Obama's purported policies. I have to say that Wilcock's support of Obama does put a nail into his otherwise well-inflated tire. That alone makes me weary. Double that with censoring anything that criticizes Obama. Puts a bad taste in my mouth to say the very least. Needless to say there ARE articles on the site which support Obama and his candidacy.
Reveling John
10-06-2008, 08:51 PM
apparently it is one of the rules that you can't post material by other channellers although they still post up Carla Rueckart recent stuff.
Oh, well, there you go. That explains it. For what ever reason he has a thing about channelled information coming from a source other than himself (and original Law of One).
He still has great information that he's gone to great lengths to share, but, yeah, that is kind of disturbing.
Josef Stubler
10-09-2008, 05:11 PM
I am an avid member on David Wilcock's website and also this one. It is very easy for any website like this one and David's to become so overwhelmed with mindless and useless "junk" that it becomes increasingly difficult to wade through all of it in order to find meaningful information and opinions.
That is not so much "censorship" as it is "moderating" the websites to keep them from becoming totally diluted and meaningless. Both Project Avalon and DivineCosmos have specific mission statements.
If you want to post something that is outside of their parameters, they have every right to moderate it. You can find plenty of other websites that will let one post anything they want.
Blueswordangel
10-09-2008, 05:36 PM
Give them time,
noelnewell
10-09-2008, 06:08 PM
Would you want to be responsible for someone else's intuitive channeling? There has been MUCH discussion/emotion/engergy around the Oct 14th prediction and it makes sense to me that DW trying to answer in any way to Blossom Goodchild's prediction is simply not a good use of his time.
As far as Law Of One...he has studied that for years. Not the quite the same thing as commenting or trying to intrepret someone else's channel.
As far as his support of Obama...well if you want all the negative stuff on him go to McCain's site or rense. Believe me there are all sorts of sites that report his flaws.
Either way, discernment is needed. One site simply cannot fulfill one's expectations. That must be why there are so many!
I pay attention and respect all of the people Kerry & Bill interview. I don't always agree with everything I hear, but I don't expect to. I expect to come into my own solution/conclusion that works for me.
micjer
10-11-2008, 09:38 PM
I really like his work also. But the forum being censored is resulting in the number of people participating to decline drastically. I'll continue to read David's blog but I think the forum is a waste of time. Much better on this one.:mad3:
But, overall, I think he is a swell guy. :biggrin2:
So do I....
But in all honesty I was quite shocked at his negative reaction to October
14 + + + . At the very least I would have expected him to wish the
supporters of the 'event' well. That would have been more respectful.
Also....there's the collective mind and how powerful that can be.
When something spontaneous just blasts out of practically nowhere,
like this I would expect someone like David to take proper notice.
And not be negative about it publically, even if he has reservations
privately.
But I suppose we're all human. We gratefully receive the
thoughts and knowledge from others, but at the end of the day,
we should make our own minds up about things.
It's just that some people's word carries more weight, for many
people....and with it comes more responsibility.
David is one of these people. It's a shame he didn't stay more
neutral because of this.
Anymal
10-11-2008, 10:04 PM
Do you guys think this week is it for the financial meltdown? Maybe not. It certainly adds to the October surprise theory.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7665515.stm
Jebins
10-11-2008, 10:19 PM
Yes. Financial Meltdown! And consider this also:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4926251.ece
I think it is also significant that the Pope kicked off a 24/7 week long
reading of the ENTIRE bible...to finish on October 13/14.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7653924.stm
It was only earlier this year that the Vatican began preparing Catholics
for the reality of ETs.
You see, this is why I think it's wrong to censor the Blossom/FOL stuff.
Because it is one of the things that is converging around this date/time.
And it is OUR thing.
Maybe our coming together in mind/spirit at this time is actually vital.
In ways that we don't at the moment understand.
historycircus
10-11-2008, 10:50 PM
On the dvinecosmos forum (http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/) I cannot find any references to October 14th. I've tried twice to start a new thread on the subject and it isn't visible after two days. I don't know who moderates David's forums, but it's a very strange phenomenon, especially considering that David Wilcock has publicly dismissed the event and subsequently the credibility of the channeler.
Should this come as a surprise?
Should this come as a surprise?
What's that supposed to mean?
I was surprised to hear it. For the reasons in my last couple of posts.
Would you care to explain....rather than being all cryptic.
Dantheman62
10-11-2008, 11:15 PM
What's that supposed to mean?
I was surprised to hear it. For the reasons in my last couple of posts.
Would you care to explain....rather than being all cryptic.
What historycircus is saying I think is that David Wilcock doesn't believe anything about the 14th and what's going to happen. That's my opinion of course.
historycircus
10-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Nothing cryptic about it - it is a straightforward question that all those who frequent "Divine Cosmos" should ask themselves.
Is there something inherently wrong with such inquisitiveness?
historycircus
10-11-2008, 11:28 PM
Dantheman,
Nope - October 14th had not crossed my mind when making my initial post.
Nothing cryptic about it - it is a straightforward question that all those who frequent "Divine Cosmos" should ask themselves.
Is there something inherently wrong with such inquisitiveness?
I took your words to be more sarcastically rhetorical than having
anything to do with inquisitiveness.
Like....against David Wilcock, generally.
I said earlier I think highly of David, but I think his stance on October
14 + + +......is un-necessarily negative.
(thanks Dantheman)
historycircus
10-12-2008, 12:03 AM
I took your words to be more sarcastically rhetorical than having
anything to do with inquisitiveness.
Let me just first say this (before anyone begins the "angry circus" chant), I, and dear god, I do, truly, with all positivity and goodness, mean absolutely NO DISRESPECT to you as an individual in any shape, form, or fashion. No disrespect. I am not trying to provoke you, or inject any negativity in any form to this discussion.
You are wrong jaby, about the the rehetoricism and sarcasm you percieved in the question. It is a straightforward question, designed to elicit, what I hope would be, a straightforward answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
I will add this, however, since this is an issue that inspires you to empassioned expression (if you don't like the tone of this question, I suggest you take it up with Socrates - for it is ultimately his question): What is it about yourself that, when confronted with what you percieve to be an affront to either Wilcock's spiel or his honor, promts you to express passion.
When you answer that question truthfully, even if you keep it to yourself, there is nothing that anyone could say or do, especially myself, to keep you from discovering truth.
Peace and extreme love to you,
The HistoryCircus
333mark333
10-12-2008, 12:19 AM
Listen
Divinecosmos.com is david's site. If he feels that censorship is the way to go then maybe we should trust him, he has an awesome track record and maybe he is tapped in somewhat more than we think. Divinecosmos is the creative energies of Mr wilcock and who are we to judge him on HIS creativity.
If people do not like this idea then do not visit his site. Accept david for who he is ( yes-he is still in the body and will exhibit behaviors ) and think maybe he is censoring it for US.
historycircus
10-12-2008, 12:27 AM
Never trust a censor - thier efforts at such are designed to streamline thought, to avoid those areas of discussion that pose a problem to thier own propositions. I am actually scared to hear someone here say "trust the censor." I beg you, as fellow human being, always question censors.
BeaTnik-BandiT
10-12-2008, 12:33 AM
Listen
Divinecosmos.com is david's site. If he feels that censorship is the way to go then maybe we should trust him, he has an awesome track record and maybe he is tapped in somewhat more than we think. Divinecosmos is the creative energies of Mr wilcock and who are we to judge him on HIS creativity.
If people do not like this idea then do not visit his site. Accept david for who he is ( yes-he is still in the body and will exhibit behaviors ) and think maybe he is censoring it for US.
Good post, 333mark333.
salute.
333mark333
10-12-2008, 12:35 AM
Never trust a censor - thier efforts at such are designed to streamline thought, to avoid those areas of discussion that pose a problem to thier own propositions. I am actually scared to hear someone here say "trust the censor." I beg you, as fellow human being, always question censors.
The question is do you trust David ?
Streamline thought-Exactly. If David believes in David then he will want his truth to be told. Why give a false path???
Mystica
10-12-2008, 12:43 AM
One has to wonder why someone would put up a forum for people to share their thoughts - then attempt to control the discussion and censor ideas the owner doesn't agree with.
Yes, it is his forum and yes, people can choose to leave. However, the practice brings the owner's true intentions into question.
historycircus
10-12-2008, 12:46 AM
Why give a false path???
With this question, you mean, "why would David give a false path?"
You left his name out, but that is what you mean with the question.
Why David would give a false path, if that circumstance is real, is a question that I cannot answer. Let me just say, right here right now, I do not think David is pushing what he knows to be a "false" path.
But, technically, you asked, "why give a false path?" This is generic, not person specific, so I will attempt to give an answer. One could choose to mislead another for monetary reasons. One could choose to mislead another for sexual reasons. One could even mislead another out of love (consider those "white" lies we all tell). As I think of it some more, I don't have any answers for even the generic.
Forgive me, and I love you all.
333mark333
10-12-2008, 12:49 AM
One has to wonder why someone would put up a forum for people to share their thoughts - then attempt to control the discussion and censor ideas the owner doesn't agree with.
Yes, it is his forum and yes, people can choose to leave. However, the practice brings the owner's true intentions into question.
Well i am sure that David is not the only moderator! others may have their own issues.
Maybe his intentions are that he cares about our Development, and a hard line is what is needed? We can discuss this all night-david only knows why.
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
10-12-2008, 12:59 AM
i dont really take what anyone says as 100% gospel truth, i like to listen to all arguments ,facts and veiws then form my own composite veiw of reality. deagle is too scary for some even though he doesnt tell us the worst of it because he believes we cant handle it and i find wilcock an amazig researcher and spiritual intuitive but perhaps sometimes overly positive. i like the middle way.. keep is balanced.
BeaTnik-BandiT
10-12-2008, 01:07 AM
One has to wonder why someone would put up a forum for people to share their thoughts - then attempt to control the discussion and censor ideas the owner doesn't agree with.
Yes, it is his forum and yes, people can choose to leave. However, the practice brings the owner's true intentions into question.
Look at all the BS you get here, in this forum !!!!
( Humbly, i must admit i could fit well in this, though it depends of the point of view ) :biggrin2:
Seriously, i think they are just trying to keep the quality of discussion high.
On the other hand, i find, difficult to believe Obama isn't in the PTBs bed, and i can understand people's rantings about David's peculiar site rules.
salute.
Sir-Chi
10-12-2008, 01:17 AM
After seeing this thread i felt i should post. I wasn't going to say anything even though it was eating at me a little.
I too like most of what David has to share. But he is incorrect about what he said about DRUNVALO MELCHEZEDEK. I know Drunvalo fairly well, for i'm a facilitator for the MerKaBa mediation the way Drunvalo teaches it ... there are many many other ways but i tend to resinate with the way Dru teaches it.
David said that Dru put in his book that in 72 some was supposed to happen and never did. WELL THAT IS SILLY and just not true since Drunvalo's first book didn't come out until 99'. I have Drunvalo on video explaining what did happen in 72 and it was HUGE. Its way to detailed to get into here but on one of David's phone calls to Kerry and Bill he says this about Dru and its just so far off the truth.
SO I TOO have to say .... hey what's the deal here?!?!?
See i feel HUGE amazing possibilities and people like Drunvalo Melchizedek, St. Germain, Sheldon Nidle, Greg Bradan, Tom Kenyon, Even David Icke .... they all say amazing possiblilities are at our fingertips and to be in balance stay focused on possitive out comes. AND SO BE IT. Anything with a negiative vibe just no longer can exist in the higher planes ... the higher dimension and lets face it here folks ... WE ARE GOING THROUGH A PLANETARY ASCENSION!! TOGETHER ... weeeeeeeee
TO A RIse In COnsciouness
with much,
love, light and laughter
SC:bleh::yikes:
333mark333
10-12-2008, 01:20 AM
Look at all the BS you get here, in this forum !!!!
( Humbly, i must admit i could fit well in this, though it depends of the point of view ) :biggrin2:
Seriously, i think they are just trying to keep the quality of discussion high.
On the other hand, i find, difficult to believe Obama isn't in the PTBs bed, and i can understand people's rantings about David's peculiar site rules.
salute.
I can understand the rantings and the Obama issue is puzzling me. Maybe Obama will change when he is in power ( DNA ), imo he is still a front for the Illuminati.
BeaTnik-BandiT
10-12-2008, 01:33 AM
After seeing this thread i felt i should post. I wasn't going to say anything even though it was eating at me a little.
I too like most of what David has to share. But he is incorrect about what he said about DRUNVALO MELCHEZEDEK.
Sorry Dude, MELCHEZEDEK is very likely an agent of the PTBs.
salute.
historycircus
10-12-2008, 01:38 AM
After seeing this thread i felt i should post. I wasn't going to say anything even though it was eating at me a little.
I too like most of what David has to share. But he is incorrect about what he said about DRUNVALO MELCHEZEDEK. I know Drunvalo fairly well, for i'm a facilitator for the MerKaBa mediation the way Drunvalo teaches it ... there are many many other ways but i tend to resinate with the way Dru teaches it.
David said that Dru put in his book that in 72 some was supposed to happen and never did. WELL THAT IS SILLY and just not true since Drunvalo's first book didn't come out until 99'. I have Drunvalo on video explaining what did happen in 72 and it was HUGE. Its way to detailed to get into here but on one of David's phone calls to Kerry and Bill he says this about Dru and its just so far off the truth.
SO I TOO have to say .... hey what's the deal here?!?!?SC:bleh::yikes:
If I have learned anything from Avalon, it is that negativity is something that, at the very least, we must overcome; but at the very worst, we must understand.
And, you ask the question. Which means you care. Which means you already are ahead in the great game.
BeaTnik-BandiT
10-12-2008, 01:43 AM
And, you ask the question. Which means you care. Which means you already are ahead in the great game.
Oh yeah... FAR, FAR ahead in the great game.... :naughty:
Phtha
10-12-2008, 04:51 AM
The question is do you trust David ?
I have a very hard time trusting anyone who endorses Obama.
More so when all posts are deleted that merely question Obama and his entegrity.
Backing his views up with some facts would be the honest way to go. But since
Obama is New Whirled Order all they way I guess they at Divine Cosmos know the
futility in even trying that. :bleh:
Wilcock does come up with lots of interesting information otherwise however.
Let me just first say this (before anyone begins the "angry circus" chant), I, and dear god, I do, truly, with all positivity and goodness, mean absolutely NO DISRESPECT to you as an individual in any shape, form, or fashion. No disrespect. I am not trying to provoke you, or inject any negativity in any form to this discussion.
You are wrong jaby, about the the rehetoricism and sarcasm you percieved in the question. It is a straightforward question, designed to elicit, what I hope would be, a straightforward answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
I will add this, however, since this is an issue that inspires you to empassioned expression (if you don't like the tone of this question, I suggest you take it up with Socrates - for it is ultimately his question): What is it about yourself that, when confronted with what you percieve to be an affront to either Wilcock's spiel or his honor, promts you to express passion.
When you answer that question truthfully, even if you keep it to yourself, there is nothing that anyone could say or do, especially myself, to keep you from discovering truth.
Peace and extreme love to you,
The HistoryCircus
No there is nothing you or anyone else could do, or say that, that could
keep me from discovering the truth.
I didn't think my defence of David was particularly that passionate...and
I didn't hold back from saying that I was disappointed about his stance on
October 14 + + +.
It is the woman and the mother, in me that wishes to protect him from
un-necessary disrespect and attack.
The goddess in me that wishes to shield him.
You want passion....cop this....." I love David, he was my introduction to Project Camelot, the things he related blew my mind. I watched his 4 part
video, I watched his face for hours (during the interviews) and I trusted him. He helped to educate me, he fired my being, I was bowled over at the work he is doing....he touched me. I liked him. My head was in a whirl processing everything he said and talked about. He was a launch pad for me, as I then
went on to the 'Disclosure Project'...and all the other P. Camelot interviews.
And now I am changed. I have learnt so much in the last few months. I
have shed a skin, like the snake/serpent, I am reborn."
PS. But David, like all of us, is allowed to make errors of judgement.
We look inside ourselves to feel the resonance of ANYONE's words.
It isn't good to throw the baby out with the bath-water.
narain
10-12-2008, 08:58 AM
On the dvinecosmos forum (http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/) I cannot find any references to October 14th. I've tried twice to start a new thread on the subject and it isn't visible after two days. I don't know who moderates David's forums, but it's a very strange phenomenon, especially considering that David Wilcock has publicly dismissed the event and subsequently the credibility of the channeler.
strange!
i thought too...the first thing it occured to me is that he is been silenced/bought.
However i like him...his logics are just good...but sometimes he slips the topics....
i did not like him asking bill and kerry to charge the viewers of their website...
Metamike
10-13-2008, 04:30 PM
I am alwo a fan of David Wilcock. I have read his books and gone through the RA material as he has re-composed it on his sight. I have had a number of postings sensured and I have never been able to get a handle on what is permitted and what is not. for example they won't post anything even though it is supportive of Deloris Cannons work - which compliments a lot of the Ra material. The reply I get is that they are restrictive of channeled material- its just the fact that this is not channeled material. Don't even think that the entire site is built on channeled material. My last post to the sensuring moderator is that I think they are beginning to behave as a religion and there is an orthodoxy about the entire thing. If it isnt glorifying to david and his show, its not interesting. Well what goes up must come down.:thumbdown:
Whitewolf
10-13-2008, 05:05 PM
Divinecosmos.com is david's site. If he feels that censorship is the way to go then maybe we should trust him
Sounds very much like something a cult follower would say.
Josef Stubler
10-13-2008, 06:50 PM
Listen
Divinecosmos.com is david's site. If he feels that censorship is the way to go then maybe we should trust him, he has an awesome track record and maybe he is tapped in somewhat more than we think. Divinecosmos is the creative energies of Mr wilcock and who are we to judge him on HIS creativity.
If people do not like this idea then do not visit his site. Accept david for who he is ( yes-he is still in the body and will exhibit behaviors ) and think maybe he is censoring it for US.
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Mark --- I could not have said it better myself ... Thanks!
pilot
10-16-2008, 06:32 AM
The people in this field of research ought to avoid casting doubt on the work of others in general I would say. Stick to the facts and your own conclusions and make neutral comments if asked in an interview.
David's got this ego...and so what, he's imperfect and human like the rest of us. I don't knock him for his protective coating-I'm sure he needs it. A guy like David was probably picked on in his youth by more rough-and-tumble types, now he's well known and respected and according to him hated with a passion by some for no apparent reason. All that attention for a wallflower has got to be a struggle, and he seems to be dealing ok-but what do I know?
I draw these conclusions from his touchy defensiveness displayed in interviews and his tales of woe regarding the attention. Temperment in this field is unseemly, leave that to the pop stars. Carry your burden with grace.
(I think his message is a good one and love his interviews and writing so this is a completely unnecessary critique of his persona.)
But he better get his facts straight if he does feel it's necessary to cast doubt on another teacher/researcher. Drunvalo is someone with whom I feel a powerful connection. David, yeah, him to an extent, a great extent actually however, he seems a little immature at times. I'd like to see these boys get along.
Yeah Cebele, they do get cocky all those boys that need to be listened to. Aren't we all a bit pscychic anyways? I am and I am not guided by Davids little talent contest in the least. I actually think it is funny. Why is it that men must be center at all times? Ha!!!
And pilot- loving others has nothing to do with leading the sheep to the slaughter just because u got beat up in elementary school!
shokdee
10-16-2008, 08:19 AM
I used to like David's style and info, so I joined his forum. But since then my opinion of him has nosedived and keeps dropping, so I never got around to posting anything in his forum. Just as well as I assume it would have been censored since my comments wouldn't have been of the "Oh David you are so amazing, thank you" but more, "In this article you say xyz but this doesn't add up because of ..." E.g. he said, the global economy is a self organizing system and like a pile of sand that blah blah blah" and I would have pointed out that the FED was a privately owned bank, stock markets are manipulated, the DOW is a fake measure, and so on. Once I nearly fell of my chair listening to one of his "readings" where he does some deep breathing, then says "This is RA" :yikes: He channels RA??? Well "RA" then goes on to talk about how movies can be important sources of spreading the word (interesting since David had just prior to channeling "RA" been talking about his upcoming movie) and how sexual orientation isn't important (Hhmm, interesting that too) and so on, more mundane hum drum topics. Seemed to me that "RA" and David were one and the same.
Rebel4Life
10-16-2008, 08:56 AM
If you post anything that contradicts his ideas or work he won't sell his books :mfr_lol: so of course he's gonna censor people that do have different ideas.:smoke:
taadev
03-12-2010, 02:33 AM
honestly, i really enjoy wilcock and his lectures etc...
on the other hand...i feel that he is a little bit too cocky...
i have listened to almost all of his audio and video interviews, and his attitude seems a little aggressive and cocky if you ask me...its just my opinion..
IMHO:Counter-INTEL, but does have the "nice-guy" archetype down very well and of course everyone loves hearing positive messages.
love
tacodog
03-12-2010, 03:03 AM
I think his ego has taken over. That is just my point of view.
Curative
03-12-2010, 03:45 AM
Personally I can't wait for his movie to come out.
What's it called?
Oh yes,
Convergence, the musical. :lmao:
To be fair, he has a heck of a lot on the go at the same time as well as trying to keep Divine Cosmos alive with his eagerly awaited insights.
Must be due one about now actually.............c'mon Dave, get blogging.
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