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Artycarl

10-04-2008, 10:24 PM

Get yourself over to Project Camelot and listen to an audio of a phone call from Bill Deagle to Bill and Kerry currently in Australia.

I'm listening to it now and its sending a chill up my spine.

Darren Swisher

10-04-2008, 10:26 PM

Get yourself over to Project Camelot and listen to an audio of a phone call from Bill Deagle to Bill and Kerry currently in Australia.

I'm listening to it now and its sending a chill up my spine.

I am with you, How much validity is there in this information? I will keep listening and reply more later.

Jenny

10-04-2008, 10:27 PM

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=38411#post38411

It is here on Avalon forum as well.

Jenny

Darren Swisher

10-04-2008, 10:33 PM

Just finished listening to the interview. Very alarming stuff. In the end he mentioned being able to change the time line of the future with actions of today. Each of us on our own personal level and as a whole. My question is how do we organize this? Who has the knowledge to organize this? I am sure we have enough followers but what about leaders?

Oct 7 sets all in motion

Followed by Nuclear hit in US (possibly LA)

Followed by Biological hit in US (avian Bird flu)

All with in a year.

Correct me if i am wrong please.

Bill Ryan

10-04-2008, 10:39 PM

Guys, listen to this phone call (http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3) we got from Dr. Bill that woke us up at 5.30 am. He was really shaken.

He believes he has seen what is in store.

The audio quality is very good - after the first 30 seconds, during which there's an initial sequence of Skype tones which we'll edit soonest.

If this information is accurate, then nothing could be more important.

Everyone we know and have talked to recently can feel that there is something heavy going on. I personally had a very bad day on Wednesday when I could feel these events palpably (and found myself very worried for my friends in the UK).

But I had no specifics apart from a great sense of danger - which, over the years, has always kept me unharmed in the mountains. I've learned to heed these strong intuitive warnings: they can save one's life.

Very best to all, Bill

Darren Swisher

10-04-2008, 10:44 PM

Bill, I have had very similar feelings (I have not honed yet) Something big is about to happen, Most if not all of my friends think i am crazy. Hell, I think I am crazy. But i keep being gravitated toward people that hang out in the forums. Having a hard time sleeping, Reading a lot more.

Jenny

10-04-2008, 10:45 PM

Wednesday I was upset I could not sleep.

Yes Bill . I have been in warzones..It felt like being in a warzone all over again..

utopiated

10-04-2008, 10:46 PM

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This response from Bill is going to be far more common...

It's amazing just how many ppl have been feeling a 'backwash' to these future events... a lot of this feeling began in the late 80s/early 90s with the Harmonic Convergence and McKenna's I-Ching based Novelty research.

Peace 0ut.
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Artycarl

10-04-2008, 10:47 PM

This is shocking, I have already warned friends and family about impending financial disaster but this is on a whole new level and my hands are shaking at the thought.

Sky Otter

10-04-2008, 10:49 PM

sorry i didn't see this and started a different thread which i hope one ofthe handy mods will make dissappear..

i believe and know we can do something

hey you guys

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if you are listening to the lastest phone thing from bill you have to know they are calling for nasty nasty stuff..

i think this is where and maybe why we are all here..

we are very very powerful beings and if we band together
we can stop or change this

but we need to all be on the same page to accomplish our goal

does anyone want to suggest what image we should hold to change it????

now is the time

Dian

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has anyone listened to the bill deagle phone call??

i'm not posting in fear but in taking control

anyone????

Soul Sequence

10-04-2008, 10:49 PM

Darren Swisher

10-04-2008, 10:53 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/04/gadahn.video/index.html

This story just appeared on CNN today, if everyone may remember the american turned terrorist guy, he's on the FBI's most wanted list, just put out a video I believe.......if these nuclear events occur, we may see it somehow being related to this guy........just a thought as the media seems to spin things leading up to events.

Prepare and Be SAFE!!!

Regards and Blessings,
Soul Sequence

In my opinion Just another (Oswald) Patsy but the threat still stands.

Be careful

freeze

10-04-2008, 10:54 PM

He mentioned Canada.... what the heck ...:mfr_omg:

I was assuming it would be an American event

OceanWinds

10-04-2008, 11:00 PM

I don't feel all of his message to be true... the whole scenario of a nuclear attack in the U.S. doesnt feel like it will happen. I dont feel there will be Chinese soldiers, I dont feel there will be anything of this nature. I feel like he just conjured a bad dream.

beanny

10-04-2008, 11:16 PM

could someone please write to us the basic points that were said on this call...
as some of us cant access it at all...no sound on our computers
has israel or uk been seen too?
thankyou

Steve_G

10-04-2008, 11:32 PM

Beanny

Key points (feel free to add or correct if I miss something or got something wrong)

1. Economic event (possibly in Europe) on Oct 7th that will act as a catalyst for what follows.

2. Financial bailout plans across the world must be opposed, because they are intended as a kind of blood sacrifice (help here please, not too clear on this point) to "dark astral gods." Must make your opposition known because sacrifice must be willing, and silence will be taken as consent. (?)

3. Financial event will be closely followed by false flag attacks in USA, nuclear and biological in nature. Martial law declared, mass deaths. Avian flu pandemic. 200,000 - 2m US citizens killed instantly in initial event, probably South West.

4. Chinese and Russian forces involved in war scenario against NATO countries.

5. UK will be most easy to control by force due to high population density over small geographical area.

Listening to it again at the moment. Anyone with a clearer picture please chip in.

Blessings

EpiphaMe

10-04-2008, 11:37 PM

Mr Deagle has been experiencing physical pains & tormenting visions, bits & pcs culminating to a big picture. This intensity happened to him just before and on the day of 9/11, though this time it's much worse. He essentially said that the 7th, next Tuesday is a day that will have something transpire that is primarily economic, perhaps in UK & other European banks, that will start a cascading of economic effects here, followed by other alarming disasters within a years time. 3 events. 1st is financial, 2nd is nuclear on our soil, large city by the ocean, flat topography (L.A. probable), and could be more than 1 large city involved. 3rd is biological event. He sees upwards of 100 million people dieing from starvation, radiation & pestilence. Pardon me if I have mistated anything, but this is what I recall. All this he called a blood ritual sacrifice of the Luciferins.

We have been called to intervene with our spiritual might and to prepare best we can. He was prompted spiritually to contact Kerry & Bill, and they posted a.s.a.p.

Carol

10-04-2008, 11:39 PM

We need your help now with spiritual intevention...
Please listen to Bill Deagle's interview.

http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3

rustanddust

10-04-2008, 11:41 PM

beanny--I just put bits of the info together from the call here. if anyone else has more to add or improve please....I just did this really quick

+ this bailout was a willing blood sacrifice by the people(America) to preticipate events to happen.

+ first there will be financial collapse. second there will be a nuclear attack. third there will be a pandemic.

+ this all starts oct 7th.

+ the main countries involved were the US and Britain, I don't know if any other places were really involved.

+ :( :( :( the city most likely("top of the list") was Los Angeles.

+ there will be FALSE FLAG events to distract from the bank holiday. blame on al qaida(sp)? martial law will be enforced--though perhaps only for a short time, there are not enough troops to contain the population.

+ keep 1) water ready, 2) food, prepping, etc etc the usual stuff, if in a city plan a route

+ something about blue hats, a red sky with strange signs in the heavens, chinese troops wearing black with a strange symbol--a yellow triangle I think? tanks, boxes with strangle symbols on them in Mexico.

+ clones from underground facilities, research to create supersoldiers(in Mexico?)

+ certain 'powers' are trying to force humanity on a path of destruction instead of liberation--we can change that but unfortunately not enough people are aware. the worst thing is the fear will be generated which is like a astral sacrifice(?) to the Luciferian gods, it is literally like an energy generated by us to feed them.

+ he stressed that personal actions, knowledgable words(spirit words) are prayers to change the course we are on. our actions create our future--we all know this, this has not changed. do not give yourselves up, do not be a willing sacrifice--resist it and change your course.

cheerful1

10-04-2008, 11:42 PM

Thanks Sunrunner! I was talking to Beanny a little while ago, and I couldn't hear it either as my sound device seems to be missing!? (Long story.....computer had a virus, and had to be stripped down and reloaded - evidently missing this vital function!?)

That was really helpful and kind of you.

:thumb_yello:

conniec818

10-04-2008, 11:46 PM

greetings to all...
on the 7th..something is supposed to happen...the begining of the end??? the energy from the earth is very disturbing...seems to me that it hurts ....to the core of my soul....and given the circustances i can only hope that this does not come to pass....

historycircus

10-04-2008, 11:53 PM

I just found this on CNN - fits with Deagle's visions.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03/army.unit/index.html

Steve_G

10-04-2008, 11:55 PM

Just a thought...

07/07/2005 reduces to 777 in numerological terms. It was the day of the London Bombings.

08/08/08 (I know it's slightly different methodology but I believe it's still valid) reduces to 888, the Georgia / Russia crisis really gets going.

10/10/2008 reduces to 111.

Numerology is NOT my strong suit but I thought it worth mentioning.

SpaceMonkey

10-04-2008, 11:57 PM

there's just too much to ignore. It's one thing some guy talking about something happening in october, it's another thing when an overwhelming amount of people talk about this. Something's gona happen and you know what, i've not been interested in all this for long. It all started when i started becoming profoundly interested in ufo's and ET's a few months ago. Ive been obsessed ever since, and the path of ufo's and ET's has led me to the path of economic's and how the central banks really works. And then from there i started becoming interested in government control. It's all happened for me at just the right time before all this happens, and i used to believe in coincidences but now i dont. ive done soo much research and so many people are talking about this from all walks of life that i just cant ignore it.

Soul Sequence

10-05-2008, 12:07 AM

Russian exercises next week.............

"................The live firing exercises in Russia's northern latitudes on October 6-12 are part of the Stability-2008 strategic maneuvers in various regions of Russia and Belarus with the goal of practicing strategic deployment of the Armed Forces, including the nuclear triad, to counter potential threats near the Russian border.............."

http://pimpinturtle.com/2008/10/04/russias-strategic-bombers-to-drill-with-full-combat-payloads.aspx

tone3jaguar

10-05-2008, 12:23 AM

My guides tell me that he has been targeted with psychic disinformation. They are attempting to insert fear consciousness into the people who listen to alternative media. They have seen what is really going to happen on the week of Oct. 7th and they are the ones that are scared s--tless.

They task their psychic disinformation hardware and assets on people who they deem of strategic worthiness. I have had one occasion of them doing this to myself when I was battleing thier entire superstructure of nasty shaman. That was the only thing they where able to crack through with and it was temporarily highly effective.

And yes, the chair is still in use. More than likely multiple versions of it.

beanny

10-05-2008, 12:24 AM

sunrunner rustenddust and epiphame.....thankyou so much
and to all other vital contributions

wes_whitewolf

10-05-2008, 12:26 AM

Urgent we need your help now with spiritual intevention...
Please listen to Bill Deagle's interview.

It is about the blood sacrifice of America. Grid will go down.

http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3

Carol,
I live in Pacific Northwest and we are witnessing strange animal and human behaviors last two days...its in the air thick as butter! I agree something is about to happen but we need to remail calm yet be prepared. Any ideas or suggestions on Spiritual Intervention?
Love & Light

wes_whitewolf

10-05-2008, 12:30 AM

Sol Invictus

10-05-2008, 12:32 AM

9-11.

War games 'exercises same day cause confusion as to wether hijackings were real or false'.

7/7.

War games and anti terror drills through out the subway system on the same day cause confusion. First reported explosions were confused for exercise radio transmissions.

..........Odds of this happening twice in 4 years? Its actually a number so large I haven't got time to type it.

So... any exercises going on over this period? yes. Three. One in USA, one in Uk, one in Russia.

Am I worried? no, but I am keeping a beady eye on the news.

wes_whitewolf

10-05-2008, 12:35 AM

tone3jaguar

10-05-2008, 12:36 AM

Please provide more detail about "your" guides and who these "nasty shaman" are.
Thank you.

Over the past 10 years my predominent guide Zeus has assembled a team of guides from the multiverse. They can see through even the thickest veils.

The nasty shaman are the individuals within the Illuminati who practice ancient advanced level Egyptian High Magik on the dark side of things. Luciferians do not mess around, they just go ahead and weild this stuff like it has no Karmic reprocusions.

Trust me they have a team of these guys that numbers in the thousands. There weakness is thier arrogance. It will be thier downfall.

truth-freedom

10-05-2008, 12:39 AM

The reason for so many different beings of prophecy to tell US of 10/07/08 is so we will come together and take action.

Did you hear Dr. Deagle say 'he was told to go sit in he study and then we was told to call Bill & Kerry'? And then what to they do? They post it for US!

I made a post right after Avalon started in the dreams section about 'being able to change things'. THAT IS WHY ANY PERSON READING THIS HAS BEEN LED HERE!

HalfPastHuman even gives a specific time of Oct 7, 2008, 12:10 AM Pacific. That's 7:10 am UTC.

Do we have any choice but to organize a massive collecting of the conscience? I think we have to do it. We need to find out who on this forum is an 'expert' at mass prayer/meditation/spirit talk, whatever you want to call it. I've been involved in large prayer meetings but none as big as what we need to get going. There must be people on this forum who have experience in spiritual/energy work. Please speak out!

Personally, I keep seeing Kerry and Duncan involved in this. Did anyone else get cold chills when Duncan talked about going to Vietnam as a child and linking together like batteries? What is used for bad can also be used for good if the intent is good.

Does anyone know Miriam Delicado? She talks about groups acting together in this way.

Maybe Bill and Kerry will want to organize something. Should we all make plans and then message them? Why can't we get all of their 'whistleblowers' involved in this as well?

At this point, all my fear is gone and I'm just ready to do whatever needs to be done to co-create a future of liberation. Who's with me?

Steve_G

10-05-2008, 12:42 AM

I think the thrust of what Deagle said was to make sure we all contacted the offices of our representatives, in whatever country we inhabit (cos most of them are in the process of doing what the USA has just done) and tell them in no uncertain terms that we DO NOT SUPPORT the so-called bailouts.

The financial bailouts are the energetic equivalent of a blood sacrifice to the luciferian banking system, ie to the Illuminati "Dark Gods." Such sacrifices MUST BE WILLING. IF we allow them to sacrifice our taxes, or harvested energy, without saying anything we are in effect willingly making that sacrifice to them. If we do it will be followed by a real blood sacrifice.

A good analogy in the UK is the organ donor scheme. Up until now you had to opt-in by signing up saying you are willing to donate your organs after your death. They are talking about changing it to an opt-out system where you have to actively say you do NOT want your organs used after death.

The bailouts are an opt-out system of sacrifice. If enough people say no then the real nasty stuff can be averted because the sacrifice will not be valid- 100th monkey syndrome.

I'm not an authority on magic either but I've academically studied a lot of stuff in a jack-of-all-trades kind of way and I've come across the 'willing sacrifice' principle on several occasions.

ALL words are spirit words, all words are words of power. Tell the men making this sacrifice on your behalf that you do NOT consent to it. Truth-freedom's suggestion of mass meditation is good too, count me in (AMA-GI's input would be very welcome here), but make sure you tell those utter bastards directly first.

Myplanet2

10-05-2008, 12:48 AM

This fits pretty snugly with the half past human releases.

Something happening early oct 7, mostly financial in nature, which perhaps not huge itself, sets things in motion which in retrospect will give the awareness of having been the turning point. And the 40% military component of **** on the fan comes on around the 15th of Oct.

Also corroborating is the reports on alt news sites about Chinese soldiers already on American soil. they have pictures of the badges. Can't recall which site off hand, but it'll be easy to find. The story is that the PTB had to make a deal with the Chinese to allow these troups in so they could protect Chinese property. Chinese have been buying up lots of this bad Mortgage debt.

the HPH data also has about a 20% "terra intrusion" component. So there could be natural or not so natural disaster aspect. Perhaps some sort of weather, or scalar attack.

Those American Senators and Congressman may have been duped into sacrificing a lot of people.

HPH saw lots of fatalities as well. Either 2 million or 20 million. (the program has decimal point problems)

The point is to take this seriously. Free choice is always there, and available. Just don't lay down and accept this. To do nothing about their invitation to a sacrifice, is tantamount to tacit agreement. Don't agree.

Steve_G

10-05-2008, 12:51 AM

Trust me they have a team of these guys that numbers in the thousands. There weakness is thier arrogance. It will be thier downfall.

Spot on. Darkness is only the absence of light.

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 12:52 AM

October 7 is significant as it is the date back in 2001 when the US and UK attacked Afghanistan...

Antonia

10-05-2008, 12:59 AM

This forcast is horrible but no big supprise. All week has been very starnge and a feeling of 3d reality being totally surreal. I havent ben able to fucus on my normal life and have been checking blogs forums and news almost obsesivly as if waiting for this news...It's very hard to stay calm and focused and not to give it energy and helping it manifest. Has any one got any good ways to change the focus entirely in the subconscious and help manifest an alternitive future and try and avert these events? is there a time we could all agree on to connect on line and collectively consentrate on quelling some of this??? :lightsabre:

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 01:03 AM

Trust me they have a team of these guys that numbers in the thousands. There weakness is their arrogance. It will be their downfall.

Well, you might be who I am looking for, have you ever seen an image of any of them? any that might be mainstream enough to find a picture?

ask your Guide to show you their faces, I'll find a way to connect with you...

The last place they expect me to show up is right in their center...

I'll stand on a beach ball and juggle their hourglasses...

I'm not very good at juggling and can't even imagine doing it on a ball... :winksmiley02:

LiquidSwordz

10-05-2008, 01:06 AM

OceanWinds

10-05-2008, 01:12 AM

Hey check it out folks, what Bill Deagle talks about people wearing yellow triangle badges are Nazi concentration camp badgesfor prisoners...link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges

so your saying that the chinese sleeper soldiers are going to have the same mark that the jews had in the holocaust camps.... :naughty:

izz

10-05-2008, 01:14 AM

i am scared now...

Sky Otter

10-05-2008, 01:20 AM

please
do not go to fear

i agree we need something we can agree on
so that we are all sending the same signal
i don't think time has any meaning so just when and how
you can

ok..sorry but the staypuff man just keeps coming into my head
please somebody have a better idea

D

sunnyrap

10-05-2008, 01:22 AM

Now that you mention it, on a recent trip into Dallas, I saw birds flying in flocks in all directions...there was no 'agreement' about which way to fly, it seemed. It struck me as very odd.

Where I am, I've seen hummingbirds and butterflies return, when I thought they'd already left for warmer climates. Very odd.

izz

10-05-2008, 01:22 AM

but i want to cry listening to that .. it is horrific

Zynox

10-05-2008, 01:26 AM

Friends,

If any of this is scripted to be, I suggest each take a peek, and discern, what camp do you want to align with (how about, your own?), and further, if we create our reality, do we also need to grant permission, perhaps through fear, to another script, one from, another?

http://communityvisionblog.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2347170%3ATopic%3A182

~ love and namaste, my sisters and brothers ~

Sky Otter

10-05-2008, 01:27 AM

izz

have a good cry and then go to your strength..you can
you are very powerful
we all are
if we can unite we can really be a force

dian

convergence

10-05-2008, 01:31 AM

lightworkers

10-05-2008, 01:37 AM

Magii

10-05-2008, 01:38 AM

Ampgod

10-05-2008, 01:39 AM

SMELL THAT???, That call was pure terror.
That is his signature! Be careful here friends!
And what is with the WITHHOLDING locations.
I found myself wanting the exact locations right away.
Finally, he said some of them after Keri had to ask and pull it out of him.
If you know... you just state it.."Los Angeles is targeted!" "get out!"..... Right?
You don't dilly dally around and get the sniffles and tell us all the dispicable horror of people's flesh getting torn apart and stuff. Not to mention how gung ho he used to be and now he sounds like a broken man.
What happened between then and now?

Something has always smelled funny about him to me.
Far Extreme. Too Extreme! I do not fully believe what he says.
Remember They use some truth mixed with lies to convince.

Guess we will find out.
Economic failure we already knew about.
Let's see what happens shortly after that.
I doubt it's as bad as he is leading people to believe.
Not saying things are peachy by any means but he really struck
me as having been messed with. He didn't sound right to me.

I'll be waiting a bit to do further analysis.

Oh and I live in Los Angeles Area 30+ miles out.

Peace,
Ampgod

Sky Otter

10-05-2008, 01:39 AM

convergence
you are so right in our not wanting to add to the thought of negitivity

every morning i go out and find some reason to experience joy..
mostly the flowers or critters make me smile
and i try and mostly succeed in holding that image thur out the day..
till i get here and all the anxiety and hand wringing gets me worked up
so
i guess the best thing is to find joy and to stay in that thought projection and thought appreciation

hugs to all
i'm going to go look at flower pics
may we all find and project joy
then there will be no fear

i am fear less...i am abundant joy

hugs to all
Dian:wub2:

Argante

10-05-2008, 01:43 AM

crowmirror

10-05-2008, 01:43 AM

Frank Samuel

10-05-2008, 01:45 AM

3 days to derail an event of destruction and turn it into an event of recreation. Yes there's a way to stop this and we all know it, the PTB knows it.They will not win !!! Activate your higher self and let your internal essence guide you.:thumb_yello:

voltron

10-05-2008, 01:45 AM

I have always been ready to die. I feel the blessed assurance. Call it a gift if you will. I suggest we all pray for strength to pass through this transition. It is not harmful to die. We are all going to go through it sooner or later. The Hindu scripture says it is a weakness to "cling to life." After all, we cannot be here forever. However, on a larger plane, there is no death. 90% of you believe in a life after death. So why not act like it. The Bible says, "He who lacks faith let him pray for it." Prayer is greater than food, water, shelter or any thing else. And if none of this comes to pass, we are still better off, right? So it is a win-win situation.
This is just my little suggestion.

earthdeva

10-05-2008, 01:50 AM

I would like to offer doing a conference call mediation I have done it before in the past and am experienced in holding sacred space for a large number...my "room" is alsready set up and ready to go we can do this call tomorrow moring afternoon and evening...
the number is the conference call # is 1-218-936-1200 the code is 06271956#
with a large number of like minded individuals coming together in this way it would be quite powerful!! let me know

earthdeva

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 01:54 AM

hmmmm October 7th, 7 years after the attack on bin Laden, 7 days after Ramadan - 777 again...

but to me, those numbers have always meant hope, the number of Man that believes in the trinity...

I know al queda and Taliban are under a complete assault right now in Pakistan, is this effort in response to a rumored attack against our nations?

can they get to operations center in time to see the plans before Tuesday?

It's like we are in the middle of a page turner novel...

and we can't put it down...

izz

10-05-2008, 01:54 AM

izz

have a good cry and then go to your strength..you can
you are very powerful
we all are
if we can unite we can really be a force

dian

thank you sky otter - i just do not want to believe what he said .. but i cant understand why he has been so specific .. and public .. which makes me think he really believe s it ..

i dont understand cruelty and i dont understand and never have why we kill people, children animals .. and why we have dark entities ..

it hurts us all .. it causes us all pain .. and to think there are actually beings, people even .. who want to cause such massive pain and destruction .. hurts to even think about it ..

but he could just be being dramatic i hope so .. until i think of my grandfathers generation .. they lived through the 2WW where 30 to 50 MILLION people died .. so what is to stop it happening again ..

and i dont think enough people have woken up to the power of their consciousness to shift the balance ..

SkyWatcher

10-05-2008, 01:55 AM

Okay, so after the terror struck my heart, since my husband works in the Fed. Res. Bldg. in Chicago and I have two children, and panic ensued, but now, I am angry that there are people that can be so heartless and cruel and I will fight for those I love.
If by fighting it means to paint NO BAILOUT on my doors, to spend hours in meditation, beseeching the Creator to change the time line that we are on, sending Angels to help, putting these cities in giant bubbles of love, I don't care, WHATEVER IT TAKES, to save those we love and the innocent people on this Earth.
Come on Avalon, let's send our light, our love, our hopes and prayers to the Creator of the Universe to love and protect those he has created in his image.

Blessings:
Nancy
:harp:

izz

10-05-2008, 01:56 AM

[QUOTE=voltron;38651]I have always been ready to die.

but life is a gift .. to all of us ..

Average Joe

10-05-2008, 01:57 AM

OK, lets not panic and look at it objectively.

Deagle has had a vision, like he had one before 9/11 (did he?....easy to say after the event)

BUT, lets go to these "visions" he's having now...pretty much all of his vision is a collage of things that have already been said on here....october 7th, economic collapse, could start in europe, chinese soldiers, boxes unloaded, nuclear attack, bird flu, deaths, you name it......everything has already been posted on here by various people on various threads. Its all on here.

There is nothing really new, that we haven't already heard. All this information that we have already heard, is it true, that is the question? Who knows? We'll soon find out....

Seems to me that he has absorbed all this info, and is perhaps unsurprisingly having real bad nightmares. Is it really a vision of the future though?

I'm not panicking yet......or should I say I'm not panicking anymore than when I first started coming across this minefield of information.

Circlewerk

10-05-2008, 01:59 AM

This is the prayer at the very end of the phone call:

"With the spirit of the most high and the creator of the universe, which is the I AM, which is THEIR spirit, speak to them and their mind and body and may they have the attentions of the Holy One who said "let there be all that is". And may they NOT drink the waters of death and will they NOT become a willing sacrifice and may they NOT allow these evils to be on the earth because darkness is not the opposite of light but the absence of it. And by bringing these things to light is not to bring terror to the people but to bring comfort, to bring control, to bring a sense of empowerment to everyone who hears this".

transcribed by Kathleen

Thing is, if we are to remain in the patterns of thought, universally what is magnetized is not the word "NOT," but the intended focus within the sentence.
What I am observing here, is a bunch of words that focus intently on all that the offered prayer is supposedly against, making it counter-productive.

I feel right now, what the highest good feels like, regardless of information that I read.
I BE in that vibration that is beyond thought & sentences, beyond prayers & hope.
Remember? We are free until we think we are not.

Love Being~
CW

earthdeva

10-05-2008, 02:01 AM

I am will to do a large group meditation via the phone in a "confereance room"
I am very experienced in this, and in holding sacred space and directing love and light. If any one chooses to jion me in a "mass flow of love" for our planet and the rest of humanity... this would be very powerful!!

the number for conference call # is

1-218-936-1200 the code is 06271956#
I am feeling we should do this 3 times tomorrow....
morning afternoon and evening

Please join with me.
earthdeva

Suriel

10-05-2008, 02:08 AM

I've had many visions in my life time. I have dreamed that I have been shot, stabbed, nuked, and hit by a bus. I even died a couple of times in different scenarios. None of those dreams came true.

They were fears. They were events I created in my mind because of the fear. They were played out in the astral realm.

We simply create what we believe and what we fear. That is why we need to remain rational and calm.

I do not sense anything bad that will happen. Although bad things happen all the time that are not reported on the news.

We need to create a more positive environment for our minds to focus on. I believe this is the key to preventing anything bad occuring in the US.

The bailout was just there to pay off the president's debt. Did you see the grin on his face when he was signing the bill?

Do not create unnecessary tension and fear where there doesn't need to be any. All we can do is pray and hope for the best.

Peace.

Average Joe

10-05-2008, 02:12 AM

I agree Suriel.

You speak sense friend.

Visions aren't necessarily an idication of what is to come. They can be fears in your mind.

And as for Deagle, the predictions he is making have already been made by other people, especially october 7th/economic collapse.

Myplanet2

10-05-2008, 02:15 AM

I've listened to this phone conversation 3 times now, and scanned around a 4th.

For my wife and I, it's been DIFFERENT every time. Different content each time. Early on this thread, someone with no audio asked for a description. The description surprised me, because that's not what I heard. So I listened again. Then I listened again, and although some parts were the same other parts were missing and yet other parts were added in. And the length of the conversation changes each time as well. I'm not listening to a stream from the Camelot site either. I downloaded it and am listenng from my own drive.

This is pretty strange.

Anyone else listened more than once and heard different content on different listenings?

Zynox

10-05-2008, 02:16 AM

I AM SOVEREIGN

I AM SPIRIT AND ESSENCE

I AM ENERGIZED BY THE SUN

I AM A RADIANT CREATIVE BEING

I AM IMMUNE TO BLOOD SACRIFICES

I REFLECT AND PROJECT MY INHERENT RADIANCE

I AM SOUL, I AM SOVEREIGN, I AM CREATIVE EXPRESSION

There is power in heart, there is power in peace, there is power within ...

There is a War in Heaven, not the Heaven many have been led to believe in ...

I laugh at soldiers, warriors, polarities and manipulation
I laugh at agendas, scripts and fear mongering orchestrations
I laugh, comfortable in my radiance, in the radiance of my sisters and brothers

I laugh, in love, in respect, in harmony, balance and peace, laughing at the parasitic controllers, weak in their need to feed upon the light and radiance of another

Suriel

10-05-2008, 02:20 AM

I have played out almost every fear in my dreams. Don't get me wrong, I care about the people and I would never want anything bad to happen to anyone.

It also surprises me on how many people do not have faith. I believe we should give the good people on this planet more credit. We have intelligent loving people in this country that are very aware of what is going on.

My instinct is telling me that if there were any plots against humanity, we would find them first before commiting such a bold act of destruction. We have satellite technology that can pin-point a fly on someone's nose from space.

Now if something bad does happen, we should pray for those people. I have also meditated on this subject and have felt no danger. I am an empath myself. So, let's try to raise the vibration here. I don't want to start calling Project Camelot, "Project Panic-alot" lol :)

Peace.

Zynox

10-05-2008, 02:20 AM

... there is, a war, in heaven ... http://communityvisionblog.ning.com/...%3ATopic%3A182

NancyV

10-05-2008, 02:21 AM

This is definitely not my script and I won't be buying into it. It has no affect upon me and I am confident it will not happen. I see something else entirely and I like my own visions and messages. We are open to the messages we are meant to receive. I am not open to this message from Dr. Deagle. It is his message and I do not believe it. I also hope it doesn't occur for him and only wish him well. He is a brilliant man and I very much enjoyed his series of 16 videos on YouTube, but I feel no need to accept his truths as mine.

Nancy

Friends,

If any of this is scripted to be, I suggest each take a peek, and discern, what camp do you want to align with (how about, your own?), and further, if we create our reality, do we also need to grant permission, perhaps through fear, to another script, one from, another?

http://communityvisionblog.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2347170%3ATopic%3A182

~ love and namaste, my sisters and brothers ~

Average Joe

10-05-2008, 02:23 AM

I couldn't listen to Deagle more than once.

Has nobody ever thought that he just knows toooooo much about absolutely everything? Worked in every single job going, is in contact with every agency imaginable, knows everything about everything about what is really a compartmentalised military...worked for FEMA as well, knows what everybody is up to....

And now knowing absolutely everything about everything is not enough, he's now having visions too?

Karen

10-05-2008, 02:23 AM

I'm with you Earthdeva - on the conference call tomorrow afternoon and evening. Just post some times. And I hope your experience has shown you to leave that "NOT" word out of the picture. In fact, I'm going to spend every second I can picturing the timeline I want to join - putting into motion that concept of praying ceaselessly, in every moment focusing on love, praise, and gratitude, the three ascension attitudes.

I am will to do a large group meditation via the phone in a "confereance room"
I am very experienced in this, and in holding sacred space and directing love and light. If any one chooses to jion me in a "mass flow of love" for our planet and the rest of humanity... this would be very powerful!!

the number for conference call # is

1-218-936-1200 the code is 06271956#
I am feeling we should do this 3 times tomorrow....
morning afternoon and evening

Please join with me.
earthdeva

Circlewerk

10-05-2008, 02:23 AM

truth-freedom

10-05-2008, 02:29 AM

No, same content and 46 minutes 19 seconds.

Sky Otter

10-05-2008, 02:31 AM

i had to come back..

i apologize..i am an idiot..
i gave credibility to a total nut job
without doing my research

go ahead and check this guy out..
he's been singing the same song for a long long time and only changes the names

damn damn damn..banging my head into the wall..
and i know better too..

that said
i do however believe thoughts of abundant joy negates fear
and any negitive crap flying around

i am begining to question kerry and bill's wanting to put so much stock in the last to things..

i am really questioning my gullibility in all of this
it just might be better to go smell the flowers and coffee each morning and thin only good thoughts...
way less wearing..

again my apologies to being so public an idiot :mad3:

hugs to all
Dian

GenerationIke

10-05-2008, 02:32 AM

I, too, have been feeling that something very big, very bad will happen soon. I've been feeling this since this crisis began. And the earth has been feeling--andlooking--very strange to me. The heaviness in the air. The gloominess. Like something very bad is permeating the air. Something definitely has changed and not for the good.

I will keep my eyes on the birds here, too. They have started to gather in the last couple of weeks and feed to fly south for the winter. :sad:

convergence

10-05-2008, 02:34 AM

I can understand how Bill and Kerry, being so involved 24/7 into these "end time scenarios" thought it urgent enough to post the Deagle interview on their frontpage.

But they might consider that nowadays there's nothing as powerful as the internet to create a fear chain reaction.

Since Camelot has gotten a lot of attention lately, it is very possible that NWO proponents are using their stooges to supply them with false info so hopefully they stay aware of this.

Regardless of how many dark plans these shadowy NWO guys have in the pipeline the future is still in our own hands.

Our collective wishes will be granted either way so we better focus on our most positive visions and ask those around us to do the same while neutrally keeping an eye on the darker developments in this world.

Practical advise:
Belly breathe calmly and direct all excess/stressful energy towards the energypoint just below the navel, there's limitless storage space there.
Yeah I know that sounds New Agey to some, but just try it.
Then work on the most positive vision you have and release it to the world with your mind.

earthdeva

10-05-2008, 02:37 AM

I am willing to do a large group meditation via the phone in a "confereance room"
I am very experienced in this, and in holding sacred space and directing love and light. If any one chooses to join me in a "mass flow of love" for our planet and the rest of humanity... this would be very powerful!!
My "room" is already.
the number for conference call # is

1-218-936-1200 the code is 06271956#
I am feeling we should do this 3 times tomorrow....
morning afternoon and evening

Please join with me.
earthdeva

the format for the call would be as follows:
it is important that those who choose to come ,be in a meditive mind set.
no visiting, and a quiet background,you are able to mute out on these calls

I am going to go ahead with these calls those who choose to join me are most welcome.

again the conference call # is 1-218-936-1200 the code is 06271956#

this is a powerful way to join "in person" to combine our energeis of love and light and healing for our planet and humanity and all the kingdoms of creator.

the "morning "call will be at 8:00 am pacific time
the "afternoon" call will be at 1:00 pm pacific time
the "evening " call will be at 7:00 pm pacific time

In highest love and light, earthdeva

Suriel

10-05-2008, 02:38 AM

Keep in mind this is the same guy that tried to sell his nutrient products in a lecture about biochemical warfare and the nwo poisoning our foods.

Here is his website (http://www.nutrimedical.com/index.jsp).

But, if his visions come true, people may want to favorite this website and buy some radiation pills. :smoke:

Peace.

ranma187

10-05-2008, 02:39 AM

I had a general feeling while listening that no matter what happens i will be safe.

I've had visions and stuff to that never happened. What i do feel is things as they are happening. One night i had a dream i was riding a big tidal wave and then drowning. the next day i switched on the news and the sri lanka disaster had just happened.

One night i woke up with a giant sense of impending doom and couldn't sleep for a few hours. In the morning paper it just reported the large earthquake.

Long predictions i don't put much faith in. It's like the hype around y2k. It never happened!!! However i do think that such scenarios are possible. The economic collapse is very possible. Another fals flag is also very possible. but i don't think the false flag will be a nuclear strike. that's not what i feel anyway.

earthdeva

10-05-2008, 02:41 AM

Ok... I did not get to add this to my post..
I just want to clarify, I am choosing to do this call because it is a "positive" way for all of us to connect... It is a way for us to join together and unite in a place of love and light and healing and wholness.
I have decided to not include the "prayer" Bill Deagle said.. the energies are not clear... I will follow the formate I have in the past and trust spirit to move/speak through me as before... I am doing this call, because it is PRO-Active... and it is such a beautiful and loving thing to do for eachother and our planet. earthdeva

Suriel

10-05-2008, 02:42 AM

convergence, I agree. I was sensing disinfo. If the main news ever got a hold of that mp3, there would be panic that would rush across the world in an instant.
Just look at what it is doing now in this forum.

John aka#404

10-05-2008, 02:45 AM

Time to really stop riding the False Evidence Appearing Real wave. We create our own reality and this is not helping.

.... by the way, found this on Maya's user profile over at Michael's forum... let's stop and breathe...

------------------
http://stclairzone.ning.com/profile/Maya

Some are still fruitlessly attempting to piece together the Grand Puzzle - they are tossed about on an boundless ocean of chaotic waves - inviting others to ride along with them on their ship with a spinning compass.

Due to the current chaotic nature of this realm - It is now fruitless to "parade" about this planet digging for bits and pieces of a puzzle - attempting to assemble those pieces derived from the chaotic realm into a non-chaotic form. This practice only serves to instill chaos into the minds of others.

This is a base reason why 'one' departed that course; that 'game'.

A calm mind creates a calm ocean - an ocean of peace - an ocean of clarity.

Enjoy life here and now.

"Open up your heart and let the sun shine in."

Focus your intentions and attention on where you wish to be and there you will be.

Your Bliss is Waiting for You here and now.
------------------

- John aka#404

Ampgod

10-05-2008, 02:54 AM

Notice he didn't even prepare yet?
:mfr_lol: what a joke!
If you are as fearful as he seemed.... you would have prepared months ago. Right? he even sounded surprised and said i'm going tonight to prepare. hahahahahahahahaha COME ON PEOPLE!:lmao:

This Bill Deagle fellow needs a long vacation!
Do you hear me Billy D.??
I bet he is reading this and getting an educated genius "kick" out of the results here he created.

Quit your crap! Bill. :mad3:

Peace,
Ampgod

SkyWatcher

10-05-2008, 02:56 AM

Now that we have all listened to a fear inducing telephone call, how about listening to some Solfreggio frequencies?

This one is Liberation from Fear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJUu-xiJPx8&feature=related

Enjoy!
Nancy
:thumb_yello:

Sherab

10-05-2008, 02:57 AM

Does anybody else feel like Bill and Kerry have gotten really dark lately? Maybe they are trying to help, but damn......

And to Bill Deagle's phone interview: What's the worst that can happen? We all die? So ****** what?

OceanWinds

10-05-2008, 02:59 AM

i am begining to question kerry and bill's wanting to put so much stock in the last to things..

me too...

Bill Ryan

10-05-2008, 03:00 AM

Hi, All:

Thanks for the good debate and responsible response here on this thread.

For all who may not be aware of it, we met Bill Deagle at his S.Cal home last weekend and recorded three hours of video.

He's the real deal. I was privileged last year to sit in on a Skype conversation between him and Henry Deacon. The two were exchanging information about clearances, project names, and 'black' facility locations that meant nothing to me. It was conversation bewteen two deep insiders. They figured out that they must have encountered one another at some point, but did not recall it.

Deagle is a medical doctor who has worked on the insider for many years. He's seen it all. He was deeply shaken and was close to tears at one point. He's reporting this as responsibly as he can.

Nothing we know contradicts any of the very detailed information in his December 2006 Granada Forum lecture.

What is possible is that he is legitimately seeing 'real' events in a close timeline which is not ours. We have to be as smart, informed and aware about this as it's possible to be. In my personal opinion, it's dumb to accuse him of being a plant. He is not. He may - of course - be remotely influenced. That technology exists, and can affect any one of us if they so choose. None of us can be totally immune from very high-tech interference if it's decided to target us.

We've just come off the phone to a number of people, including Rebecca Jernigan (a psychic intuitive radio host, whom we know), and David Wilcock. Rebecca listened to the call, was shaken, and confirmed that she had 'seen' similar events. We've uploaded our two short conversations with her (http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html), which are worth hearing.

On the other hand, David declined to listen to the phone call, carefully discredited Deagle (I personally disagree with his views on him, but did not interrupt), and gave us an off-the-cuff 70 minute phone interview which contained some extremely valuable food for thought. We'll upload this as soon as we can to provide some balance to the discussion. Expect it within the hour.

In a very tiny nutshell, David said that he did not believe any such events could happen because (a) they would be prevented by benevolent ETs (which is quite possible), and (b) he would have received information about it himself, which he has not.

But the entire phone call with David is worth listening to. He responded impressively to our entirely unscheduled call.

We have called George Green, and also Dan Burisch (who does have high-level contacts) and were only able to leave messages. We also spoke briefly with Michael St.Clair, who does not believe such events will occur.

We'll continue to report. In a few hours we're speaking at the NEXUS conference to a large audience... so this is interesting and rather dramatic breaking news which we will present as accurately and dispassionately as possible as one segment of our presentation - which will include the foreseen events of Timeline 1, variant 83 (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html), which is a little hard to ignore in this context.

Please keep up the excellent level of responsible and extremely interesting discussion. We'll do what we can to contribute during the day, if we can.

Very best to all, Bill

Suriel

10-05-2008, 03:00 AM

Oiran

10-05-2008, 03:03 AM

I appreciate that Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan released this interview so quickly because the message within it is extremely powerful. However, I don't share the feeling that Bill Deagle's interview was "fear-based" or "fear-mongering." Although, I admit, on my first listen, my adrenaline raced, my heart beat faster and I did feel pangs of fear, but by the end of it and certainly on my second listen, the fear was replaced with an urgent need to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

The phone call reminded me much of recounting a nightmare upon first waking. You have a terrible nightmare, you wake up and tell your partner about it... as you tell the story, your heart is still racing, the images are still very vivid. But as you continue to tell it, your heart slows, you calm down, you realize it was "just a dream." So, to me, it was almost like Deagle was still caught up in his visions while speaking with Kerry and Bill, but by the end of it, he refocused himself and emphasized what I feel was the most important message of the call --- that the future is not set in stone, that we -- here and now -- have the power to avert the disaster he envisioned.

Let's not forget what Deagle said at the very end of the phone call: "...by bringing these things to light is not to bring terror to the people but to bring comfort, to bring control, to bring a sense of empowerment to everyone who hears this."

Ampgod

10-05-2008, 03:05 AM

me too...

Hey don't kill the messengers.
We needed this. I praise them for putting this up.

It a good thing. :)

Peace,
Ampgod

Suriel

10-05-2008, 03:06 AM

Bill,

I tried to download the Rebecca Jernigan mp3s and they are not there or can't be downloaded. I look forward to hearing those.

Keep up the good work.

convergence

10-05-2008, 03:08 AM

Yes suriel.

I've seen this process on a lot of other sites.

For instance: Stewart Swerdlow, David Icke, Mike Ruppert, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense and others all are sincerely, I think, trying to get the info they are receiving out to the general public while being bombarded with negative info.

But they must always remain aware that they can be tricked with disinfo into unwittingly aiding the powers they want to expose.

333mark333

10-05-2008, 03:12 AM

This Forum is getting out of control. I do not know what is going on anymore. Are we choosing our paths?
I am sticking with David, if he's the re-incarnation of cayce then that is good enough for me- this fear is unbalancing me and i may have to leave.

If they want a fear offering then that phone call just activated it.

Ampgod

10-05-2008, 03:12 AM

OceanWinds

10-05-2008, 03:14 AM

Hey don't kill the messengers.
We needed this. I praise them for putting this up.

It a good thing. :)

Peace,
Ampgod

I am not killing them... but just questioning. I really had a hard time getting through Miriams interview. And then the interview with Deagle threw me off. It actually made me laugh a little bit, cause there are parts where Kerry and Bill are interupting each other over and over. Both of them talking at the same time.

But Hey... kudos for all the work they have done. And getting the message out.... I have great respect for the two of them. But the last two interviews I did not vibe with.

I also think its interesting how different mediums are having degenerative visions of the future... its like an astral assault on those who leave themselves open, in an attempt to throw the raising vibration of humanity.

ranma187

10-05-2008, 03:15 AM

bill the phone calls with rebecca aren't downloading.

Wandering Daoist

10-05-2008, 03:21 AM

What if a crisis happened and nobody showed up.

What if everyone just kept their money in the bank instead
of withdrawing.

What if thats what they want you to do.

Sorry I don't get the feeling of doom here... There may be
an event on that day but I don't have the same feeling.
I'm not buying it.

Magii

10-05-2008, 03:28 AM

bill the phone calls with rebecca aren't downloading.

Bill made a boo boo in HTML == it happens

Heres the links

http://projectavalon.net/rebecca_jernigan_4_oct_2008_1.mp3

http://projectavalon.net/rebecca_jernigan_4_oct_2008_2.mp3

Seva

10-05-2008, 03:29 AM

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 03:33 AM

I have a selective speaker system, it can work fine all day adn I click to hear an interview like this and it stops working...

I'll be a few web searches away and it starts working again.

It is like some of these messages aren't meant for me to hear, so I go by what all of you are sharing about it...

I think the 4 blinking lights on the Washington news cast is enough confirmation for me that they are watching very closely right now...

You know today, while everyone was spinning from what might be coming...

I said a small prayer to help us with the drought, you know the song it never rains in Southern California... well I mean it never rains... Our reserves are low, it would be a good time for a nice peaceful rain...

Well when I heard the raindrops hitting outside I was amazed, I never watch the forecast because its the same every day here, Sunny and Perfect. You know, sometimes its just appreciating the little things that matters the most...

dolphin

10-05-2008, 03:37 AM

Sherab,

I agree. After listening to George Green, I felt sick. But then after I listened to Dr. Deagle that made George Green look like Mickey Mouse. LOL :lmfao:

So far much of their material is FEAR based. I would like to see more positive approaches to our destiny.

i thank kerry and bill for posting this. just bec a message is fearful, does not mean they are creating fear. they are trying to save lives and warn people! look at all the other testimony from many difft. sources who have all been warning people of a similar scenario. hopefully as a collective we might possibly make a change of probable events. to me, there is just too much evidence to support what he has said.

1. suppression of congressman defazio from reading the amended PDD-51 to martial law just recently. they had a secret closed session in congress. only the 6th time in the us history.

2. army returning, now on "active" duty

3. thousands of UN troops here (which corroborates deagle's message re chinese)

4. martial law codes, and the camps

5. fema coffins in georgia

6. political manuevering in russia and middle east

7. half past human, re oct 7.

8. and of course gwb in power

you cannot suppress information just bec. it is very scary. i believe that "intention" is very important here. and i think dr. deagle too is the real deal. all his topics are spot on, regardless if he sells his products online. earning money from a product does not deem the message wrong. read david icke's, alex collier, alex jones (who recently made a similar prediction, now on youtube) george green, pleidian material, half past human. they are all trying to warn us.

many lives could be saved by people taking precaution..

Seva

10-05-2008, 03:38 AM

Soul Sequence

10-05-2008, 03:38 AM

hmmm, just my two cents for what its worth.............

a question.......What is everyone searching for? or is it all just ME and you all dont really exist but only exist because I created you? Is everything just disinfo, an illusion? Are you all here on this forum as a part of MY creation? entertainment? Have I created in my mind this dual universe of US against THEM? Is this world just my school and everyone and thing in it here because "I" created it? How can that be when you're all saying that we are "ONE". How can there be a "WE" if its only an illusion of "ME"? And if it is all in my mind and I am just typing this to myself, pretty darn messed up mind I've got to create all this war and conspiracies and such.

hmmmm, and "LOVE and LIGHT" conquers all? Then what about everything else? If there is a "WE" and there is a "YOU" here with me, then we have some choices to make. IMO, we should discredit anyone.....period. Those that preach the NWO, let us listen, those that preach the Mass consciousness of love, let us listen, those that preach religions, preaches by governments, those that speak of aliens and wormholes and multiuniverses and YES, even those that speak of nuclear attacks and YES, those that speak to say this cant happen. Just listen, don't ever judge, we all bring something to each other. We may not agree, SO WHAT?

What are we searching for? Bring it all on, whether the info is FEAR or HOPE, DARKNESS or LIGHT. Whatever you have to share, share it........I will listen and take in what fits in with me and leave out what does not, but I will NEVER judge you or discredit you, whether you claim yesterday was the end of the world or Oct. 7th will be the beginning of the end to the beginning of the world. I am here to listen and will prepare or not pending on where I'm supposed to be or what I'm supposed to know at this moment.

whalerider

10-05-2008, 03:38 AM

just typing out loud here,
but what if we were to bind the evil doers somehow.
i am no expert, but isn't there a wiccan spells to bind
people from doing harm to themselves and others?
is there someway we could all do this, to each of the illuminati,
to prevent them from doing any (more) harm??

It seems to me that the best thing we can all do is to STOP focusing on resisting, binding, or any act that is negative toward the illuminati...that's what they want. In the martial art of Aikido (sp?), you use the opponent's own energy against them meaning, we should all focus and meditate on reflecting all that they plan for us back on them! We should all visualize being powerful spiritual mirrors. Otherwise, if we focus our own intentions and fears on them, they will become only more powerful. Use their energy against them...

Here's what we all need to do in our meditations, in our prayers, and in every waking moment that we can muster...Let's all visualize that we are these radiant, large and powerful spiritual mirrors reflecting any intended evil back on those sending that evil forth. We all know our power. We all know why we chose to incarnate at this exact time...now let's get focused and do what we came here to to!!!

LOST IN SOUL

10-05-2008, 03:43 AM

I'm just sittin here watchin the wheels turn.

Not fearing at all !

If this forum does anything for us ?... It gives us the ability to at least be informed of each other's opinions.

I don't fear the outcomes.

I feel the small few here on this thread are simply not enough to change anything !!

It's just a nice positive community who collectively care about humanity.

All of us stay happy.

dbdowlin

10-05-2008, 03:49 AM

Hello, this is my first post. I'm new to Avalon.

I think there are some important things to say.

well. the thing is ANY fear reality is BS, total crap, illusion, won't hold in the new frequencies.

anyone subjegating themselves to fear stands to face instant collapse. the whole point of all this mess is to realize Love.. but also realize that fear reality will not make the shift.

fear reality is lower dimensional. when we move into higher dimension, there is NO fear reality.

the mathematics of the frequencies have to "balance out"

fear is a low vibrational wave -- unsupportable in higher frequency life. it's like trying to make matter in pure light ethereal environments. wn't happen. can't happen. physically impossible.

it's like trying to cram a truck into a glass jar. HAHAHAH.. yeah right.

we ain't livin' in 3d kansas no more Toto

most people still havn't realized that.

Thus... anything pertaining to fear based reality is unable to manifest. it's just physically impossible. no matter how much attention and consciousness energy goes into fear-based reality scenarios, trying to support such a reality immediately enacts a whiplash effect on people fosued to the fear reality

what happens is THOSE INDIVIDUALS supporting fear-based solutions and predictions actually undergo what can be considered "loss" to them only.

that loss cannot come in the form of what they are predicting, though. because again, such a predicted reality cannot occur.

instead "loss" happens in other ways...

..... for instance.. I've paid some price to convert dollars over to gold and silver standards. which is all I have done.. but they can't be spent for a while. that "loss" I experienced can be a "processing fee" and also mistakes I've made while leaning toward speculating on a fear-based reality of where the dollar destabalizes.

recall and stuf.

heh, I paid the price to buy into the recall possibility.

does all that make sense?

when trying to sell fear to others that they can buy, the same thing happens. what is momentarily a gain in the end becomes a loss.

this is a time though, when people can "renege" on their losses.. just kinda scratch it out as globalized effect. that's a good thing.

The Creative Force of all individuals drive the planet's sum total action.

NO WAY can a few people based on fear ever possibly hope to CONTROL everyone's Creative Force. not unless people choose those realities. And then, because of the frequency increase, it still won't work.

what they do is in effect, the more energy the small groups of powerful people use to try to control everyone on the planet, the more that energy is directed back against the small groups, bounced off the people who benefit by watching the small group of control destabalize itself.

it's likie slamming your truck into a train.. which wins? the train

in worse case, the train can come off-track.. but the truck is totaled. the train is just picked back up and put on track after a delay

the truck is sent to the scrapyard and recycled.

you ALWAYS have to keep that in mind when you see any fear-based reality frequency.

fear has no force energy. it's a low slow wave. high fast waves have AWESOME inertia! in a reality of increased frequencies, a slow low fear wave does MUCH to destroy itself, because now it has turned into a destabalizing wave. whoever uses that energy experiences self-destruction because of the RELATIVE frequency differences in ever increasing fields of vibrational energies.

before, in 3d reality, fear worked. but now in 4-d reality, a fear wave works backwards and will ever swiftly bring about a self destructive effect to whatever energy field attempts to utilize that which would destroy higher vibrating matter.

at a certain point, anything lower than the high frequency standard which supports life to exist would destroy such life, now that high frequency standard IS the energy which upholds the structure of life.

to balance it out, as Earth goes into pure light, those lower frequencies will have to experience life in an equality. What balances the equation is that to meet the energy requirements of the fear wave to uphold the structure of reality, reality itself will be balanced relative with the individual vibrating in fear-energy, so that total anniahlation would occur to maintain a low wave.

that is the mechanics behind the Shift. that is why fear mongers will simply disappear.

pretty simple, right?

...............

the verification of ANY outcome right now in these times is the truth of Love. fear has its purpose, and that is to tear down that which cannot become permanent.

the more people are aware of the fear stuff, the more people actually see what's going on, to say the least.

hah. it'll get worse. but not in reality, only in what they say.

That is the nature of the dark side of the force -- fear.

the fear gets darker and darker and darker. the love gets brighter and brighter and brighter.

it is a CHOICE.

your choice determines your reality.

we did NOT know globally about 9-11.
until it happened.

NOW though, there is a growing awareness of what the gov. is planning.

that changes everything.

the only thing people need to see is proof.

primarily proof that Love creates reality.

All is Love. Love is All Action.

The ego must deny itself as a part of All Action in order to form its self-awareness. As the baby rocks back and forth, he determines what moves contrary to him, and ultimately the baby determines what is "not" him, and what "is" him.

However, that is to say we are not the trees, nor the sky, nor the birds, nor each other. But that is untrue. We ARE ONE. There is no separation. All of life is interconnected.

SO...

In order for there to be an ego, it must deny itself as part of ALL. So, if All is Love, then a denial of Self-As-Love would be fear, and that experience of fear. Fear is only real to the physical (paradoxical) ego of physical life.

because it is only in the physical reality where the ego can experience a separation FROM ITSELF.

Fear is made real by those who choose to believe in dualities and separation.. fear is only ignorance of Creative Love. Fear is the darkness. Light is INFORMATION ABOUT HOW LOVE CREATES REALITY, AND THAT LOVE IS REALITY -- AND IS THAT EXPERIENCE OF LIFE.

let me tell you. If anything disasterous happens in our country, suddenly the government would be tossed.

enough people are awake now and watching them.

The Marshal General would arrest the Pres. he is already watching him like a hawk.

The Marshal General has the power to arrest all of congress. he already arrested about 3,000 people involved in one of the largest corporate bank acts of theft.

That is the military's job, one of the military's obligations to the constitution of the US

the military does not have that power though, until Martial Law is declared, which then it does not answer to congress. the president is not part of the military, he is politician.

Why do you think so many of congress including the Pres does NOT have the "need to know?"

have faith.

Eat not of the food of fear. ye will only get sick! lol

there is no death. FEAR is death.

Love starves out those who eat of the food of fear.

you can do "what if's" all day long. there are people who sit around and think up those what if scenarios, and feed it to the public. ultimately you'll get so sick that you will be in bed for days, and just won't be able to digest fear any longer.

radiant zone is something that MUST happen after 2012. It is a thing of no fear.

In a community forum such as this which promotes and organizes such radiant zone communities, no action will manifest so as long as fear freezes everyone in action.

if I cannot digest it, if I do not vibrate with it.. then it would be like a mosquito trying to pick me up and throw me.

fear is unable, undirected, self-collapsing.

fear possibilities of the darkest reality never can occur because it self-collapses on those who use the energy.

it cannot be deployed.

it's like an unstable nuke. Just loading it up in the plane and taking off is enough to shake it up to where it detonates.

if there were going to be a nuke detonation in L.A. it would be because we have a nuke base there, and were going to use our nukes on someone else.

HOWEVER

there would be some sort of "malfunction."

after all, that is COMMON place. Any nuke test these days are plagued by malfunctioning equipment.

the nuke age has ended.

not only the freq. of love diffuse the bomb, but the ET also cut the power.

ET is here, yes?

did they not say that they would intercept Nukes?

it's been done for 50 years.

Chernobyl was stopped by ET saucers hovering over the melting down facility.

The sanctity of Earth is FIRST a priority to be protected by ET races.

Why? Because it does not violate the free will of Humans, and at the same time working harmonically WITH the free will of Humans vibrating in Love, creating their reality of Love.

feel better now?

What you need to know is that the fear mentality is out in the open now, being faced, so it can be resolved and released.

anyone vibrating in fear MUST face it, and clearly see it for what it is, before it is resolved and release.

that includes you, if you choose to vibrate there.

plan for a future of Love.

those people wnating to build radiant communities must first overcome their fear. otherwise those communities would not be radiant.

they have made their intention to build. now they will immediately face their karma which holds them back from achieving that.

after they clear their karma of fear, then the radiant zones will manifest effortlessly and miraculously.

I dare say the people at Avalon are the very same people who are the dark ones who know the light of love is comming to fruition.

they have inserted a counter-insergence plan. the dark knows the light is here, and the dark is terrified of it. they will do everything they can to CONVINCE the light to stop their work. But that cannot hapen. Instead the very presence of light will bring that fear to forefront and be seen clearly in the "light of day" by everyone.

be suspiscious -- be discerning -- of those who attempt to say there will be fearful realities. they are not lightworkers.

how do you know the difference between the light and the dark?

the light gives freely information. The dark misleads and misdirects with information. confuses and promotes fear.

and that is the purpose of dark. to educate the light. what has been hidden in the closet MUST come out and it WILL. Encryption is "putting it in the crypt." what secrets are there today in a world where we are waking up? nothing can be hidden that is not plane to see, through the eyes of Love.

the dead rises from the grave, to be seen in the light of day, those secrets which cannot exist. no secrets can be held in a loving frequency of reality.

Those vibrating in Love did not go into work that day of 9/11. what happend is the energy of fear, which had finally reached a point of equillibrium which caused its collapse in the economic corporate world. just like a star goes supernova and collapses upon itself, unable for its internal pressure to support it's own weight. it turns into a black hole.

the powerful families are collapsing THEMSELVES.

how does avalon make you feel? Do you really think that ANY radiant zone can be created so as long as there is all that fear at avalon?

is it becoming a community of fear?

succumbing to the darkness?

What is Avalon's purpose? Is it to plan for contingencies? Then therefore, such possible future contingencies -- dark possible realities -- are incorporated into the purpose of Avalon.

If Avalon states its purpose as "how to live in a safe world," then it must first be assumed that A) we are not safe.

HOWEVER, that is only an energy of fear to assume so.

Avalon's very purpose must also invite fear into the forums THEREFORE.

Thus it can NEVER manifest any real progress toward building of radiant zone light communities which operate on the frequency of LOVE ... not fear.

how many prison camps around.. how many people do you think they could really hold? the number of prison camps vs. the number of houses is way disproportionate.

come on now. you gonna BUY the fear reality like you would invest in gold? It's there for sale, you know.

you can't build a reality based on Love if you are doing the job because you are afraid of "what if"

Many people are afraid because of what information has come through the Avalon forums.

but now what happend? Avalon does more to destroy communities, and keep them from forming. don't you see?

do you honestly think that people on avalon can come together and build communities of LOVE when they are so focused on fear and finding shelter from fear -- thus an act of fear.. building ANY community to escape fear would designate it's purpose to be fear-based.

Fear paralyses. stops people in their tracks. rise above the fear. and it will never touch you again.

Love and Fear are two realities which cannot co-exist in the same relative frame.

It is a paradox.

make your choice.

it'll rapidly get too chaotic for you to handle, the darkness that is.. the fear...

it'll get darker and darker and darker.. and horrors you cannot even dream.. BAH.. you think that's where we're headed? with ET's swimming in the skies? HAH

HELLO intergalactic EARTH OF LOVE. GOODBYE isolated earth of fear.

what you are taking part in, what you are participating in.. is the shifting of realities from fear into Love.

:)

be informed.

stay in the love.

-- unconditional love and support on your journeys

-- Drew

starsoul23

10-05-2008, 03:53 AM

I also think its interesting how different mediums are having degenerative visions of the future... its like an astral assault on those who leave themselves open, in an attempt to throw the raising vibration of humanity.[/QUOTE]

I agree with the above...as a medium myself I have been having similar visions since I was a kid. Some of my visions come true and a lot do not! They have done nothing but create negativity and depression in my life and I question if they are sent by the dark to feed off my fear. I'm done with negative thoughts I have put up positive words all over my room to help. I have also had an urgency to gather with conscious people in my area to create a different vision.
Also to put up pieces of paper all over town that say Love or a symbol for love.
Everywhere.

Myplanet2

10-05-2008, 03:54 AM

No, same content and 46 minutes 19 seconds.

That explains why I got different content on each listen. It was a download problem.

Each download I've tried showed an elapsed time of 23 minutes plus change. Half of the 46 minutes.

I've now heard the 46 min conversation and it's all there.

Still kind of odd that a 23 min mp3 would play for different durations like 27 min or 25 min and play different portions of a longer file on subsequent attempts.

Not sure how that's possible.

Made_in_Brazil

10-05-2008, 04:00 AM

I for one appreciate that Bill & Kerry pass on to us everything that they get to know. That's a matter of self-discernment, no censorship, species adulthood. We're the ones supposed to know how to process the information given and react with pro-active response (ability), as we see fit. People that get scared and panic listening to other people's bad dreams and visions won't be spared in the coming changes, sorry. That's a clear indication that these would be the ones easily manipulated by any PsyOps fear-induced techniques and would probably be afraid of anything. Food for fish, some bite, some don't.

On the other hand, darkness is that which gives light contrast and definition. Denial of negativity is a lethal attitude. You face it, you process it and you trasmute it, using it as a positive tool for more self/collective-empowerment, IMHO.

To my mind, most so-callled predictive visions and dreams are mostly symbolic issues meaningful mainly to the dreamer him/herself, rather than messianic statements to mankind. All visitors, enlighted or not, come from within first.

Just my opinion :original:
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Mr Curmugeon

10-05-2008, 04:00 AM

Yes this is scary stuff - well summarized by many of you.

My own guidance tells me that the message is necessary for time lines to be shifted. That was I think the key part of what Bill Deagle had to say in the last quarter of the conversation.
I know I have participated in other exercises to shift time line for the better. Go into a meditative state and hold the vision of what you want for as long as you can - mine is of a peaceful cooperative society - try to be specific. See it and feel it. Do this as often as possible. Do whatever actions you can to support it locally or globally.
Group sessions done privately with close friends are ok. Don't publicly announce it ( no email or public messages) as the energy can be hyjacked.
Ask your guides and /or star nations for help.

Stay away from fear and starve the buggers!:lightsabre:

Seva

10-05-2008, 04:06 AM

vibe out the positive energy! :)

mauioneness

10-05-2008, 04:06 AM

We really need to all stop....take a few deep breaths....and more deep breaths.....and see what this call and all of these posts are doing to our thoughts, emotions and to our physical bodies! We cannot afford to get lost in the downward spiral of out of control fear in our mind! While everything this gentleman said could be true, it could also not be true! Let's not manifest this stuff....It is good to be informed, but let's not get caught up in the drama of it all right now. If we were to be honest, there is a part of us that is excited about all of this stuff....It's different, it's scary, it's consuming.....sort of like a movie!!!!

Let's use this opportunity to face our fears and anxieties head on release them, so we can be clear lighthouses in the midst of the storm and realize the greater purpose of all of this is to WAKE people up! Realize that we are all playing a part in this play called life, some of us are playing the good guys and some of us are playing the bad guys. It's just a play, no matter how serious it seems...Please see my other post which talks about what to do when fear comes. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4131

Blessings to all of you!!!! :wub2::wub2::wub2:

Operator

10-05-2008, 04:08 AM

Hi,

First of all thanks Bill and Kerry to share the info a.s.a.p. with us.

I think we should all stop alternating on credit/discredit the intentions of Bill and Kerry and the people they bring forward to us.
We are all adults here and everybody him/herself should decide what to do with the info presented as responsible as possible.
In other occasions some forum members become impatient and encourage Bill and Kerry to post much quicker ...

Then about the health issues ... I also feel reservations about persons who are selling books an/or products on their websites.
However there are a lot more presentations on Codex Alimentarius and it seems that the topic is a real deal.
Remember the interview with Miriam Delicado about the seeds and keep a close watch on where your food is coming from.
Let alone that the Bible even mentions a scenario about famine/starvation.

B.t.w. if you would be in the position of Dr. Deagle would you dare the risk to make a fool of yourself by claiming
things out of the blue which could easily discredit you later ?
I think, Dr. Deagle is a brave man. Not many of us would have done the same. And if at all would first have spent
time to prepare yourself first.

Now then about the FEAR.
Folks, it does not help shouting out loud: I am not in the FEAR stuff.
By stating it you just gave it away. There is no such thing as NOT thinking about a thing. The only remedy here is to replace
the 'NOT' business by some other DO business.

I remember a film (it really happened) with the title: "Bravo Two Zero"
It's about 8 SAS Special Forces commando's in the first Gulf war and during their mission things go awry.
At some point they are detected by 200 .. 250 Iraqis. But without ANY NEED
of debate they CHARGE instead of pulling back.
By doing so they create a better position/situation for themselves.

This is why the are called SPECIAL forces ... they are trained and prepared for this kind of stuff.
After their debriefing the Shrinks suffered more post traumatic stress then the 5 that survived.
You can only be FEAR-less for things that you are trained for and prepared for (and that may be spiritually).
However most of us have no clue what's coming so forget being enough prepared.
Believe me I have big guys seen collapse when they really realized what was coming for them.

But again also this is in the Bible: Matthew 25:32
All the nations will be gathered in his presence, and he will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

It will become clear who the real leaders are ... and I surely hope there will be many on this forum !
When the going gets tough ... the tough get going !

Let's stop talking let's start doing ... :trumpet:

wes_whitewolf

10-05-2008, 04:11 AM

Greetings,

Was trying to do a little research on who Dr. Bill Deagle is and I found this web site (his): http://www.clayandiron.com/about_bio.jsp

Has anyone looked at this?!??! What do you think?

Here is his myspace: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=309895078

Is this the same person Bill & Kerry interviewed today? I would trust that they (B&K) would not quickly post any old dooms day prophet without knowing some credible background on this person. But...?!?!?! Please let me know what the rest of you think after looking at his sites above. Am I missing something? Could not find any bio on this person on the Project Camelot site.
I noticed that Kerry said she was having the "same or similar" vision...has she provided her take anywhere?

Yes, lets be calm and get some sort of credibility established on this person before we panic!

Love & Light

Suriel

10-05-2008, 04:14 AM

The fear is rapidly spreading. It's already on godlikeproductions.com (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message626069/pg1) :shocked:

Watch your new creation grow before your eyes.

Peace.

broken arrow

10-05-2008, 04:15 AM

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 04:17 AM

and before you discredit anyone sharing with you something from a dream...

It's the only way to share important truths...:winksmiley02:

The best defense is not needing one...:insane:

addalight

10-05-2008, 04:23 AM

DO ME A FAVOR .. IF anyone is scared - dont be ---

Just look at this page -- its really old and might i add dead wrong...

http://www.sherryshriner.com/deagle.htm

Get use to googling up people .. most of them have past history which will allow you to see there picture to which they dont want to show you !

:trumpet:
This really puts it in perspective. I really like the one about Indianapolis, since I'm from there. Every time I listen to Dr. Deagle I get that iggy feeling in the pit of my stomach. All of this is often followed by, buy this or that or you will not be protected; and he just happens to have it for sale. I'm not sure this guy is a purely service to others kind of guy.

broken arrow

10-05-2008, 04:23 AM

fforest

10-05-2008, 04:25 AM

Listen people

All you who say "LETS NOT FEED INTO FEAR" people need to wake up.

Yes what you say about not feeding into fear is true..BUT 99.9% of the people on Eath know nothing about the illuminati plans for total world domination.They no nothing about GMO food,Chemtrails,Black ops,the fed reserve,micro chip implants,they no nothing about PROBLEM REACTION SOLUTION this list could go no for pages...

Most people (Sheep)will Believe what ever the news on TV tells them is reality.Most people have never given any thought to any of this.

I GAUREENTEE these sheep can be lead by FEAR very very easly..

FEAR will come very fast any very easy to the masses..I will bet my last dollar on that.

Not only this but the sheep WANT TO BE LEAD and told what to do...

For sure hold a positive vision but dont be so stupid to think millions and billions of other people will hold your vision....

Shechaiyah

10-05-2008, 04:32 AM

I remember, when I was a kid, there was a movie, "On The Beach."

Here it is, coming at us.

God bless us, every one.

Shech--

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 04:32 AM

Did anyone here think about one little thing, the strongest sense a human has is fear, it opens you, giving you sharper hearing, better vision and strength...

Maybe this all part of our evolution, putting us right on the edge, forcing us to reach for even more...

All of us want a better future, how many are taking your fear and turning it into an even more powerful light surrounding you, your family, your neighborhood...

In Washington's vision, he saw Angels coming to America when they were needed most...

Maybe we are them, lighting up now to prepare for the coming battle against the darkness...

nagualton

10-05-2008, 04:33 AM

Right, so we have to mum?

NancyV

10-05-2008, 04:35 AM

Thanks for your great 1st post, Drew! Good Vibes!

Nancy

Hello, this is my first post. I'm new to Avalon.

[edited out long post]

HELLO intergalactic EARTH OF LOVE. GOODBYE isolated earth of fear.

what you are taking part in, what you are participating in.. is the shifting of realities from fear into Love.

:)

be informed.

stay in the love.

-- unconditional love and support on your journeys

-- Drew

broken arrow

10-05-2008, 04:35 AM

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 04:36 AM

i don't believe anyone is attempting to discredit anyone. ok. this is big stuff. why wouldn't a person question it? that's not discredidation. why be on defense when you run offense right?

naaa what I am saying if someone from the Military, with a bunch of 3 letter agency experience wanted to share something with the public, he agreed not to share what was written or told, but they didn't make him say he wouldn't share his dreams....

He's keeping his oath, and sharing with us things we need to know...

Now its our job, to find a way to keep his "nightmares" from coming true.

Suriel

10-05-2008, 04:38 AM

Just to clear up any confusion from my point of view, I care for the American people. And if those bad events do occur, it would be shocking and terrible.
I would not want to even visualize such a thing. Maybe that is why I don't want to. I do not want to visualize that in my mind because it could add to the manifestation.

So, although I am not ignoring the warning, let's try to pray for our future and prevent this from occuring. I do believe this was the most important part of that message from Dr. Deagle.

So, lightworkers, it looks like it is time to alter our timeline once again.

Peace and Love for everyone with sugar on top. :thumb_yello:

YLG

10-05-2008, 04:46 AM

Benjamin Fulford was interviewed by Rense on 9/24/08 and if you are looking for more data, then this is a good one. You can find on youtube. I have been observing various things on the news, and a lot of what fulford has said can actually be true. For example what he said about the Japanese in an article that they are questoining 9/11, this is actually true and I found it in a Japanese new article. Also, China's refusal to help the USA financially, is another interesting fact.

After reading all the posts here I decided not to listen to Deagle's call. I appreciate the folks who have listened and posted here.

I look forward to the meditation tomorrow with Earthdeva.

Thank you all!

broken arrow

10-05-2008, 04:46 AM

droid56

10-05-2008, 04:47 AM

The thing I like about this October stuff is we are in October right now! Waiting for the end of 2012 to see if anything was going to happen was making me feel very impatient. Four years seems like a long time, even though it isn't.

Having read various predictions about catastrophic events over the last 20 years has taught me that they almost never come true.

Now the possibility of economic catastrophe is right now more than a little bit possible. And how that would radiate out into our day-to-day existence remains to be seen. It could get very ugly.

But the other possible doom scenarios are much less likely, in my opinion.

But I will definitely be paying careful attention over the next two weeks.

Deagle could be right, but I doubt it.

As scary as the worst-case-scenario is, I wouldn't turn down the chance to be present at the climax of history. And I have faith that we are headed for a future that is much sweeter than these troubled times.

Katherine

10-05-2008, 04:48 AM

:mfr_omg: How do you wrap you mind around THIS one??? This is the most shocking and disturbing thing I've heard yet!!
As well as what's already been noted : Canadian borders to be shut down from 56 to only 6 transfer points with large underground elevators that can lower vehicles to take x-rays!! Now I understand the dream I had about 2 months ago about all these elevators coming out of the ground. Too weird!

Also worrisome - foreign troops moving around all cities setting up perimeters as well as a second one at 30 mile limit. Use alternate back roads out! Do NOT go 'east'.

GM foods introduced on the population to destroy their immune systems and make ppl susceptible to disease. This I absolutely believe!

Grids to go down - power - water.....store shelves will be empty in 3 hrs. and water out within hours!

Found this almost funny - Saudis contacted Bush admin demanding that bailout money goes to them first. Yes, they really need it :(

All I can say is: knowledge even if it's just a possibility only adds strength to our power! Use it !! The mirror back is an excellent concept.

We shall prevail because we MUST!
Love & Light
K

adrenochrome

10-05-2008, 04:51 AM

here's the working David Wilcock interview:

http://projectavalon.net/david_wilcock_4_oct_2008.mp3

:thumb_yello:

YLG

10-05-2008, 05:01 AM

Wow, thanks for the David Wilcock link. I was just gona post to ask about it and there it is ! Everyone might want to listen to David

broken arrow

10-05-2008, 05:08 AM

adrenochrome

10-05-2008, 05:09 AM

yea i was just about to go to bed and i still had this thread opened..

i think i'm gonna have to listen to this one tomorrow though, because i'm about to nod off - see everyone tomorrow!

THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR

10-05-2008, 05:23 AM

i believe and know we can do something

if you are listening to the lastest phone thing from bill you have to know they are calling for nasty nasty stuff..

i think this is where and maybe why we are all here..

we are very very powerful beings and if we band together
we can stop or change this

but we need to all be on the same page to accomplish our goal

does anyone want to suggest what image we should hold to change it????

now is the time

i'm not posting in fear but in taking control

anyone????

Okay Guys and Gals,

BIG stuff coming - IMAGE TO HOLD...VISUALISE these cities encased in HUGE WHITE LIGHT DOMES, with ENOURMOUS COLUMNS OF WHITE BLUE LIGHT decending into them from the depths of the cosmos!

Call upon ALL SENTIENT BEINGS to RISE UP and SAY NO across the entire planet, see the entire world saying NO together!

Also call upon the ONE TRUE CREATOR to come with everything he/she has got, ie: ALL FORCES FOR GOOD to protect us at these times!

Of course take all steps physically to get out of harms way too.

Big Love to all...One World - One Love - One People, were in this together and remember WE ARE ONE and ONLY THE NOW EXISTS!

PEACE OUT

LiquidSwordz

10-05-2008, 05:25 AM

Just the fact that Bill Deagle announces a DUE DATE makes him endanger his credibility. Is this a last dieing attempt to save his career? Well, we wont know untill Oct. 7th. If something doesnt happen on Oct 7th, we will ALL discredit Bill Deagle for the rest of his career. If something does happen, then we will all be paying more, close serious attention to his advice, from then on.

reubendarious

10-05-2008, 05:26 AM

Hi all, I've been having a very weird feeling since last week every time I cross the 395 bridge from Virginia to DC it's like something is going to happen and instinct makes me look for safe ways to scape, Dr. Deagle was talking about a flat city and a lot of highways and that matches with Virginia too so anyway I think that it's better to just analize that recording with serenity and hope that nothing happens. By the way my birthday it's Oct 7th:shocked:

Oneness

10-05-2008, 05:27 AM

Boomer

10-05-2008, 05:34 AM

here's the working David Wilcock interview:

http://projectavalon.net/david_wilcock_4_oct_2008.mp3

:thumb_yello:

Thanks a TON for the link!

Are there any good links to the brief phone calls to Rebecca Jernigan...anyone?

Pomguymguy

10-05-2008, 05:42 AM

[/QUOTE] Over the past few mornings I have heard the dawn chorus more than I ever have before. Everything seems so serene and still. Remember we have choosen this time and place to be on the Earth. It is part of the knowlege that we need to learn as we return to the place from where we came from. St Clair calls it " Amongst the Stars "

There is nothing to fear - just the F.E.A.R. itself ( False Emotions Appearing Real )

Bill Hicks " It is just a game" - We are the players my friends - Lets PLAY and WE DECIDE THE RULES THIS TIME:welcomeani::mfr_lol:

doodah

10-05-2008, 05:52 AM

I think we're supposed to remember who we are. Now is the time to say NO, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, to any such interdimensional "sacrifice." No, we will not participate. No, we will not cooperate. No, we will not give up.

Peace and Light ... Ommmmmm

MartyMcFailure

10-05-2008, 05:54 AM

wilcock says the ets will stop all nuclear exchanges// but what about burisch's timeline 1?

Ampgod

10-05-2008, 06:36 AM

If I had to guess this guy is full of himself, highly religous & is working off some old information (which back then may or may not have been right). He now is trying to assume that he knows what has transpired since he stopped knowing and started assuming based on his inner fears.

Just a guess. :)

Peace,
Ampgod

waverider

10-05-2008, 06:43 AM

Do yourself a favor and get a different perspective from Wilcock, if you haven't already scoped the newest phone call with him. :thumb_yello:

dbdowlin

10-05-2008, 06:56 AM

OH BOY. I appreciate all your positive comments.
I also apologize for a super long book.
I feel it’s important to say, and I certainly only want to say it once…. LOL

I don’t have all the answers, but we all ARE pieces to the puzzle -- some light, and some dark – but all of the same substance. That of Love.
The dark are only IN the dark because they are not informed of the positive changes that are taking place. The light is information [of Creative Love], and is important to make sure it is anchored so that chaos does not ensue.

Now on that note, I would like to share many many words and thoughts about what I think about LIFE as it pertains to Bill Deagle’s announcement.
I know many of you are afraid. And my heart goes out to you.
But please know… that what we face is Not annihilation but a True Awakening!

On that note.. here is a lot of words:

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Digging up the fear stuff only leads to more fear. It escalates infinitely, but it is always the same. The infinite growth of the golden spiral, golden rectangle, those PRETTY FRACTALS all show the Glory of LOVE Frequencies. It qualifies infinity, but in infinite growth, not the infinite stagnation of dark energies – always staying the same, never changing, always dark and fear-based.

The act of going to the back of the cave – symbolic for entering the very darkest corners of the depths of mind – and putting on sac cloth and ashes and grieving for what is coming is a CREATIVE ACT.
All actions create. Literally you create your reality, you form the fabric of reality, AND reality itself is the by-product of your own infinite existence as the Soul you are.

Soul forms reality, forms the reality of mind, of which we find ourselves with form. Soul is formless, yet mind creates form. As you have that idea simultaneous with the flock of birds singing all around you, then that is your Soul expressing itself as reality (consciousness reality) of the idea, you having it, and the birds singing to it. You are All you see around you, with a reference point within the All. Yet you are not your body, nor your mind.
Reality (the substance of all we see and hear – consciousness) is a by-product of your infinite Soulular Existence.

All actions create. The Creative Act to go into the back of the cave and morn and greive in ashes.. is to create the very destruction that they act upon. What transformation is it? If you define your existence as s/he who must save others, then therefore there must be others to save – you create that reality of there to be victims.

How you define your existence – keep in mind you are your reality of others – is how you define your experience of reality.
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The spiritual pain.. Spirit is a misleading concept. Pain is not bad. There is no good or bad in the grand scheme of things. What CAN experience pain is consciousness – consciousness not aligned with Love.
Those who are tormented are tormented by their own fears. The torment is the result of the inability for reality to fully manifest IN THAT FREQUENCY of fear. Yet the ego consciousness attempts to do just that. Why? Why are they afraid?
It is because they do not realize the Truth of Love. And they call out for help to do so.
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Regarding commercial sacrifice. Blood money an; all that. Reality is meant to be a joyful experience. Greed is the only sacrifice that CAN be made. Money for the sake of money is simply an idea. Business the same. When corporations no longer value LIFE above their own greed, then obviously sacrifices will HAVE to be made – self sacrifices in order to manifest into a reality of Love.
That is the only sacrifice that CAN happen. For we have free will. No one can infringe on another’s creative free will. People literally create their own perception of what they will understand. Only love gives people enough bandwidth to see past the symbolic illusion of physical reality.

Corporate contract law depends upon people to AGREE for any enforcement to happen to them. No law can be enforced unless an individual legally AGREES to its enforcement. When you get a driver’s liscence, when you plea either guilty or not guilty, you are entering an agreement, accepting the commercial offer given to you.

The simple fact is that free will cannot be violated. If you were to rob a strong man’s house, how could you? He’d stomp you! But if you bound his hands, if you bound his soul force in fear, you can rob him blind.
There is either Love or fear. The two cannot co-exist in the same frame of reality. THAT is the Shift.
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One gentleman in the forum commented that the ego symbolically translates infinite information into terms that the ego can comprehend. (in a nutshell!)

If one does not understand the creative nature of the soul and ego and pure light realities, then there will be a certain distortion of information. You can extract yourself from the Human drama. By doing so, you change your entire fabric of reality. Just as every origin of a circle also has a circumference, the one AND the All are inseparable. No two people experience the same reality.
It is important to understand that each one also co-creates AS a Unierse of a One. We don’t all live in the SAME universe. Together, we share similar FREQUENCIES of UNIVERSAL-ACTION.
It’s like changing the dial of a radio and choosing those frequencies which you can hear and feel most readily to you.

The commercial system MUST collapse. We are not in a frequency of greed any longer. The old frequencies are simply not here anymore. Those addicted to what they have known all their lives – fear – they will have the hardest time giving up those frequencies which have defined their identity.
What do we have to give up? Greed only. The universe will provide. If you need money, you can go to the mail box and cash the check from the phone company which says “if you switch companies now, we’ll pay you $70.” Even though the universe will provide, it is up to you to go get the check out of the mailbox and cash it.
We live in a universe of abundance. Do not fear that there will not be enough to go around. Infinity qualifies Life. Yet Fear qualifies death.
The changing of Earth reality to the higher frequencies is a re-engineering.. the birth of the caterpillar out of the cocoon. The caterpillar must die in parts, and new parts must be born – all inside the cocoon. What emerges is new life.
Fear not. When you are free from fear, you are free to create without limitation.
What it comes down to.. the government does not control private trades and private business who do for each other. They’d like to think they do. But ultimately it will be seen that the illusion will fall to the wayside and only the Truth will remain.

Zero out your account. I can provide information to become free of the system of commercie and tap your own infinite credit. We aren’t supposed to pay taxes. Those are assessments upon our credit which the government uses. There is no more money. Govt went bankrupt. It’s all taxes now. And credit. According to the Uniform Commercial Code, each individual has unlimited credit. When you get a bill in the mail, it’s a money order telling you who has used your credit. When roads are built, things are built, it is paid for. They use your credit to do so. Your credit is infinite!

When you buy something from a corporation, they use your credit to pay for it. Credit cards are tapped on your credit, then charged back to you in what’s called a blocked grant.
They issue taxes. That is why you have to file your taxes, because you assess your own credit that others have used. When you have to pay for a bill, you file that. That is income. The IRS sends you a bill in the mail, and an offer. You don’t accept their offer, you only file it. The only offers you accept from IRS is those which you accept for value. That means that they use your credit, and you tax it, then they must refund you for the value of what your credit is worth in dollars.
According to the US supreme court, all individuals have the right to renege on all debt. If you do not exercise that privilege, then it is no one’s fault but your own.

I can give some information later about how to do this. The important thing to realize is that the US government’s debt is NOT private debt. The illusion is sold to you, and you buy it at a cheap price.

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Identity depends upon stability. Yet Action invariably pushes for change. Fear of loss is what the identity faces when it realizes that it is mainly comprised of fear frequencies which can not perpetuate their own existence. Yet it is not loss that the identity faces, but infinite growth when the identity switches over to Love frequencies. The identity perceives it as death. Fear of death and fear of unknowns is the primary energies of fear. All things have purpose for the highest good of all life, AND we do not die. Furthermore, the Ascension process is birth anew, meaning we don’t even have to go through a bodily death experience if we don’t WANT to.

What we do defines who we are. Our Actions define our Identities. Action = Identity. That is a unifiable paradox.
Action establishes Identity. We are FORMS of Action. Action = Identity IS CONSCIOUSNESS OF SELF. Self is reflective to SOUL.
Mind is amazed it can create itself out of nothing! Soul does not act.. it is MIND which acts. Soul CREATES ACTION.

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What Deagle is experiencing is HIS OWN possible manifestation of reality if he does not change his actions to Loving frequency. He only sees HIS reality.
Together, we can look inside other individual’s universes (UNI-verse .. reality of a ONE), and we can see them. Yet your own universe you experience by changing that radio dial to the loving stations.

Clear your karmic cycles of ongoing drama, and suddenly you find yourself in a new loving Earth reality. He has given himself the oppourtunity, and he has come to Camelot for help. His whole intention is not to say there is doom and gloom on the horizon, but to say, “there is doom and gloom within myself.”

Consciousness is the INNER MANIFESTATION of the Soul’s Infinite Living Existence – the Inner Dream of the exploration of “what is the SELF.”

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It is time to move out of the cities. Too much drama and chaos. Earth calls to us, and the only reason why the cities face self-destruction is simply because they shut out those frequencies of high love which Earth resonates within and throughout.
It is only the symbolic manifestation of burning destruction however which plays people’s ego (non-unified, and still duality-based rather than paradoxically oriented), as they are participating in a global planetary Ascension which requires Love to be firstly realized.
Not everyone will make the Shift. Yet to those who WILL make the Shift, from their point of view they will see that ALL Ascend. If you create your reality of Love, then it means fear cannot touch you. What you see around you will be ALL LOVE.
Yet to another.. they must face something which pushes them to change.
Stable-instability. Every time you take a step, you must lose your balance and regain it, lose it and regain it, and then you are walking.
Physical ego requires something to “push-back” on them, which they must “push back” upon. It does not mean conflict,.. for if you perceive conflict within your reality, you perceive the manifestation of your own inner conflicts!

You see why Love is so important, yes?

Notice how he said in one instance, after the city was destroyed by a bomb, “afterward they were blind and could not see anything.”
In quantum mechanics, there is no cause and effect. It is all at once. Their blindness is not so much a result of existence, but a CAUSE of their own reality.

He is blind. Blind to Creative Love. Blind to the light. Not blinded BY the light.. for that is another interesting effect.
Our universe is Light. Light as form of matter – the living paradox of Electric and Magnetic… proton and electron, blab la bla (I’m a physicist).
Light creates its own shadow!
Love however unifies light and dark. The light of Love has created universes of matter in an attempt to understand its own existence as an “I”.

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Now..

Destructive solutions in the world and in the U.S.
Most of everything happening is designed to usurp the Creative Force of the people to that of Fear. This is done on a higher level than physical life, which I won’t get into at this time.
The reason is so that people have no choice other than to embrace Love. Yet that was the plan all along, it was the planned evolution of Humanity, which Humanity itself has planned in harmony with ALL of Love.
Destructive solutions which happen around you.. can you do anything about them? Do they affect you? Were you killed? These things are not an immediate part of your reality. They are other glimpses of parallel universes which all individuals create together in fractals of harmonic resonance.
IF you give them energy (attention = energy) then you create their existence. If you know they cannot happen, then you transmute what you perceive and that energy echos farther than the Human mind can comprehend – only able to understand when the Soul is embraced as our True PERSONAL Entity – who we are.
What you transmute is your OWN inner frequencies of fear energy, to that of Love. And you co-create the generalized transmutation and transcension of fear, and into the pure Light of Love.

NOW. You will immediate realize and recognize the shifting energies. Rest assured the dark/fear scenarios cannot come to pass. The only evil is simply ignorance to Creative Love. Light is Information – information OF Creative Love.

The dark solutions not coming to pass is the effects and cause of LIGHT unto our world.

What any destructive solution will do is to begin displacing fearful vibrating people out of a more higher frequency of loving reality. It only gets better from here. We are witnessing the collapse of fear-based reality, out of our reality altogether! We are beginning to shift. And the people who are not shifting, who are not vibrating high enough are starting to phase out of the higher frequency reality. They tell their story as they leave the planet.

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THE BANK HOLIDAY

Okay. How many times you go to the bank and it’s closed? Well, your card still works, your online trading still works. Nothing really changes other than if you don’t have any automation going on, you just will have to wait until you make that deposit. Check cashing places would still be open!
The banks are saying.. “okay.. we need a rest from the drama!” LOL
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CHINESE TROOPS ON US SOIL IN BLACK UNIFORMS

Hey Hey! These cats are involved in illegal black bear trading around the mountains of Asheville. They’ve been there for 10 years at least. It’s not anything new. There are a few border drills on Mexican soil too. Why? Well, what does it matter? These are isolated events and do not matter much to a world which is Ascending.
If you create your reality on a level of fear, you will find them in the mountains. Otherwise you will not.

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Visions also.. they come sometimes from the ego, sometimes information the ego receives and translates with serious distortion.. Deagle’s visions…
Visions can also be given to those who have made agreements on some level to serve the dark forces. DISCERN. Mostly the Chinese are there for trading purposes, and the world is really starting to work in harmony with each other. The first steps would be shaky and mistrustful, but be open to your brothers and sisters instead of being suspiscious. They are only mistrustful because of fear. Show them Love, and there is no reason to perceive any threat.

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Deagle is VERY afraid. He’s crying out for help. Please understand.

ALSO you have to take it into consideration that all bank runs are designed. Like a mathematical equation. It is done with fear. You get people to be afraid, and you can manipulate whole nations.
Deagle knows these things. Which is why he’s afraid.

The systems which do not uphold life will collapse. The universe will never give you more than you can handle.
Bank runs have been started by rumors, historically.
Only rumors.
It is people’s FEAR which causes the bank collapses AS they run on the banks. And then the money is horded.
If something like that happens, then what we’d see are PORTIONS of bank systems collapsing. Yet essential systems still in place in the banking industry will NOT collapse. IF IT DOES, then it is done illegally.
The Marshal General is only waiting for the nasty dragon to rear up its ugly head and then he’ll move in and arrest everyone involved, including those of Congress. The senate and house will be empty very soon. Utopia is forming because a central governing body is the evil. No anarchy will ensue because people naturally act in harmony with their realities. Remove the dischord of a central government, and people become free. Just look at Somalia and all the rest who have tossed their central government.. UN is spending billions to reinstate one. But they have gone to a virtual utopian society [in Somalia].

Military secrets are not so readily accessable to the Congress! LOL

Sure, there might be a “down time” in the U.S.
But look at it this way: you’re raising frequency, raising frequency…. Suddenly a point comes where the old frequencies cannot continue. Then there is a sudden shift of wonderful positive energy. As soon as a crisis is enacted to such extremes, THAT is the earmarked time when things SUDDENLY become right-side-up again.

People all over the world are waiting for a time to move in against the powerful families. We have let it go on for so long because we are LOVING innately, and did not think there were really maliscious people out there who would do the things that we are hearing about.

Like I said, people only need proof. And then it all changes suddenly. First thing when the banks go down is the system collapses. Then private money will move back in, and a sudden “re-equalization” effect will begin. Japan is ready to flood the market with LOTS of gold to help the U.S.

It is however YOUR OWN choice as to how you change and shift.

It will be an adventure, and in it, everyone will be standing with you. Trust me when I say it is the positive changes we’ve been praying for since the beginnings of this span of modern time.

Deagle is a pawn. He is starting the rumor to run on the banks. He is starting the collapse because the ONLY collapse in the bank system would be due to people’s running the banks out of fear of loss and fear of death.
Again. Deagle does not believe people will wake up. Which is why he is opting for taking precautions to control populations, because he does not believe people will wake up. He is in for a surprise!
Unfortunately, Deagle might be on the list in the Marshal General’s office to be arrested.
He acts unknowingly as pawns to the dark ones.. (for those who are familiar with that concept). The only power he has is the power to cast death to himself.
Just think. ET is around, and they are loving. They are our Brothers and Sisters. Make YOUR choice, and know that you stand together with those of Love.

The thing is.. food grows. Farmers farm. Truckers truck. Nothing will change that. What might change is only people’s attitudes about Life. And that MUST change.

You’ve got to understand the mechanics of creation, of how you create your reality, of what it all means. That might be a little much to get into… but the energies of fear are simply fiction. Through fear you get sick. Your body does not manifest dis-ease unless you are out of equilibrium with the Love energies of Life.
www.bionade.com
your body heals itself given the right information frequencies of light. See Dan Nelson, he has four videos on google about “The Water” I can post links later.
check it out.

He said also.. pay careful attention.. people running on the banks WILL RESULT IN THE BANK HOLIDAY.
Did you catch that? Want me to say it again?
Love is All. A bank holiday will safeguard people from making such a quick decision to storm the banks.
Do not worry!
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Corporations are finally disappearing. Have faith. Know you create your reality with ease, effortlessly, and with Love. Everything is Love. Don’t be blinded by the illusion. Know that we are Evolving AND Ascending – and in the MOST loving ways. Facing and overcoming our fears is the cruitial step to realizing, resolving, and releasing that which holds us back from vibrating in harmony with Creative Love.

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Long ago, the Israelites were going to sack a city. “Gomora” I think. They went up to the mountain overlook looking over the city and prayed about it. They knew that the sinners had to be cleansed, but they did not want to do it, because they value life. What happened instead was a meteor shower which came down and destroyed the city. The Israelites were unharmed.
You see.. everyone creates their own reality. We are learning ACCOUNTABILITY for our actions, and to become responsible creators.
New Orleans.. look what happened. They refused to take note of the warnings to reinforce their seawall YEARS prior to the actual hurricane event. They created their own reality and were responsible for what happened to them.
Their vibration was one of partying and avoiding. You create your reality. Where you locate yourself is how you define yourself.
Do you associate yourself around those who do not respect life? For that is your own reflection. Align with your reflection, and find others of loving nature.

Humans create their reality, and that affects the Earth. People’s vibrations of consciousness -- emotional/thought energy -- literally stears storms like magnets.

I’ve faced tornadoes before. They are love, too. Stand in front of your house and open your arms to one! It will split in two and go around you and do no damage. Love the Earth, and the Earth will Love you back. Give a world of good, and the world will give you back – a world of good.

There is more than enough money to go around. Deagle is talking about doing a bank holiday and putting international money back into the smaller banks here in U.S.
Thus, power returns to the people, where it FIRSTLY flows forth. He’s trying to predict a fear reality, but he is full of holes. How can we run the bank if a holiday is declared and international money transferred to SMALL banks? -- he says these things.
See, in his heart he knows that this disaster need not happen. He just does not believe, but he will. He will see that fear shows us that there is NEVER any reason to fear. Remember? That is fear’s lesson, after all!
ET is in the skies making sure the EARTH is not damaged from nuclear radiation.

IF YOU SEE ANOTHER WITH FEAR IN THEIR HEARTS, GIVE THEM LOVE, SO THEY CAN CLEARLY SEE THE TRUTH --- especially of our reality of planetary ascension.

WE ARE AWAKENING.

Self-Empowerment. Own your power. You are INFINITE and UNLIMITED Creator Beings of Love!

I’m not saying discount what he is saying, in his universe of experience. It is good to have water on hand, as well as food. Understand where your water flows from. It is highly important that we focus again on WATER as a life source. Which is why water keeps coming up over and over and over again.

THE SECOND PART OF THE TAPE. WOA BOY@!!!!!

It is good to be prepared with a little backup, but just don’t go there to that dark place!
If you navigate hyperspace, through space and time, and you understand that there are parallel choices infinite reality possibilities, and that we choose each one energetically… Then you understand that the darkness is NOT a place where you will end up IF YOU DO NOT DESIRE SO.

It is SO FAR AWAY from happening as reality right now, it’s unimaginable – or SHOULD be. Look around you at all the people awakening to Love. Honestly now. War? Love and fear cannot co-exist like that!
They just can’t!
Two different ends of the spectrum like north and south pole.
So what about the zero pole in the middle of the magnet?
That zero point is life energy and where it flows forth from. In every atom, in every molecule, there is Life Force Energy of Pure Light.
If we know that, that very simple thing, then don’t you see how we have ALREADY evolved?

All fear realities are, is the lack of information pertaining to the reality of the situation, that Earth is not ending! They can’t see as far though, because their DNA still remains unplugged, and the LIGHT is not reaching them. Now, it simply does not mean that they can possibly act upon any dark scenario, for that is not the reality of where Earth is currently headed – toward the galactic zero plane of infinite time and zero mass.
Earth is leaving the physical reality, and entering the pure ultra-high vibration of Light.
In light, all possible realities exist. Light is ZERO time. Light is ZERO mass. Time at a zero is infinitely expanding and forever becoming.
Picture that.
What CAN happen is the reality. Otherwise, all possible realities exist already and are actually BEING CREATED and formed all the time, ESPECIALLY by what Humans are dreaming up as reality scenarios.

We are 4 years away from crossing that threshold, and entering pure hyperlight (this is what I call hyperdimensional light, or hyperspace – but actually there is no space where there is no time. The power of the Human consciousness will re-form the thought-pattern of matter, in an otherwise non-matter system of reality).

NOW since we are so close, since the frequencies of time are very very high right now – time increases near a gravitational body, and decreases away from gravity – then we are headed to the zero plane of where gravitytime polarizes around the galactic central axis (the central plane at the zero intersection at the galactic center). The gravity is divided in half like a frisbee – the top from the bottom – at the zero plane of pure light.

The frequencies are so high that in certain crystalline fractals and geometrical patterns of matter (matter is light), as in some people and areas, that they generate portals to new possible realities.
In actuality, it is not so mysterious. Everyone creates their reality.
Vibrating in tandem with enough shared frequency, that light reality can interlink and interweave throughout the planet.
In some spots, there can be pockets of grey.. and yet where the light gridwork of Earth and People interconnect, those “forcefields” of light-consciousness-frequency create at broader bandwidths of multiple dimensions.
Picture a truck full of toxic waste driving out of the grey areas and through the light-ley-lines of interconnected people and earth. It would simply not phase into our realities, but would disappear into a sub-frequency-dimension of a more greyer shade of fear-reality.
These things happen all the time. There was an incident reported of two truck drivers passing each other on the high way somewhere near Asheville, making routine weekly runs. They knew each other and CB’d out to each other. Then went along their ways.
Ten minutes later, they see each other’s unique rig driving down the road coming toward each other AGAIN! The got on the radio, “Is that YOU, Bob? Didn’t we just pass each other 10 minutes ago?”
The other is also shocked, “Oh my, Jeff! We just passed each other 10 minutes ago, what’s going on? Why are we seeing each other passing by again?”

Very symbolic! Passers by. Yet they both experienced moving through intersecting parallel dimensions THROUGH reality rather than from one and into another – moving through parallel reality, through time and space, through possible realities experienced one at a time.

It happens.

Don’t be alarmed by glimpses into the grey areas of the world. Certainly nothing is truly dark anymore~! Be assured.

If it helps, don’t watch TV!

Circlewerk

10-05-2008, 06:58 AM

I Don't mind the interview.
I experienced it unconditionally, made some observations and processed it according to MY highest good.
Because he conjured or received this vision, does not mean it is meant for me as well, unless of course I mind it, then it is mine too. Even if I don't prefer it, when I mind it, I surely help it to grow.

truth-freedom

10-05-2008, 07:00 AM

Suriel- (and others who are familiar with Terence McKenna)

My mind is in overdrive tonight after the Deagle info. I've been watching McKenna's videos over and over. When I close my eyes to think I can't shake the TimewaveZero graph.

According to McKenna, the I-Ching sequence he used shows that time repeats itself, different events of future time correspond to events that already transpired. One example he gave was that the resonance of the birth of Mohammed = resonance of Hussein invading Kuwait.

He says that the period of 1945 - Dec 2012 is a compressed repeat of the 4306 year period leading up to Dec 2012. I'm trying to determine what day(s) in history that 10/08/2008 correlates to.
01/01/1945 to 12/21/2012 = 24,827 days
4306 years = 1,572,766.5 days
01/01/1945 to 10/07/2008 = 23,291 days
23,291 / 24,827 = 0.9381319, which is to say Oct 7 is 93.81319% through the cycle and 6.18681% of the cycle will remain on that day.
So backtracking 6.18681% of the 4306 year cycle from 12/21/2012 : (1,572,766.5*.0618681) = 97,304.075 days prior to 12/21/2012
= July 14, 1746.

But also to consider is that one day of the 1945-2012 cycle = @63 days in the 4306 year cycle. So 7/14/1746 is a centerpoint and the range is +/- 1 month. So we are looking at June, July and August of 1746.

So, what happened during this time period that affected entropy/novelty/resonance? Was there an event that could give us insight to what may lie ahead for us this coming week?

I would love for someone to do this calculation and see if he/she arrives at the same date.

Many blessings to all.

truth-freedom

10-05-2008, 07:04 AM

I meant what date Oct 7 corresponds to, not Oct 8. Sorry.

Carol

10-05-2008, 07:07 AM

This is a partial transcript for folks who didn't get a chance to hear Dr. Deagle's call.

He has been having very powerful visions and sees a final catalytic even that is pulling them together. People who are (spiritually) connected can see the light or images coming. One of these people’s job is to see that (visions) and translate it through the body... he is one of those people and refers to Miriam as another one.

He is referring to portions of the Old Testament Bible

He is also referring to how some of these spiritual people will experience spirit pain. Pain like contractions as when a woman is in labor.

He had tears and terror and images of people, colors gone, and bluish light, screaming in terror, a feeling of unleashing of these events happening on Tuesday, Oct 7th.

It's so intense it is hard to describe it, there is a feeling of terror coming over mankind... It is so intense, this pain, spiritual... he had it happen before 9/11, the Christmas tsunami, Oklahoma City... each of these he had a night terror prior to the event.

He says the images are pulling together and he is not exactly what it is but the economy is part of that process

He says he see a kind of terror that makes 9/11 look pale... he can feel burns, smell burning flesh, fell their pain, feel the paralysis of the survivors and it makes him shake inside.

He feels it coming. Says he gets spirit knowledge and talking about a blood sacrifice, time and commerce, (the bailout) was a willing blood sacrifice of America (by commerce). He thinks the next major event will be a false flag for American. He sees Marshall Law, violence in the city, blue hats marching, terror and strange signs in the heavens with a red sky and (ET crafts?) objects that are now our own.

He sees the blame being place on Al Quida and a nuclear event in NY. He knows that they have been doing operational war games. Back in 1987 he was traveling on I80 north of Chicago, at that moment he saw people walking, RVs, lots of people walking on the side of the Highway. He asked them what happened and they saw the destruction of the core of Chicago. The other (nuked) city was very, very flat... he saw 20 or 30 blocks vaporized, they looked up and could see their hands like an x-ray and many were blind.

He said it could be now or next Spring. He knows what coming is Marshall Law.

He said it's like Katrina where they are preparing the population. Tuesday is going to unleash this next event. He describes himself as a psychic intuitive. He does know what cities are the target cities. The location that is the most probable is a very flat terrain, close to the coast, lots of freeways... warm climate, Los Angeles.

This is a Luciferic sacrifice...

He also is saying the Bank Holiday could be called and the event which is capitalize is financial. He’s seeing movement of troops, Chinese troops on US soil, movement of boxes off the West Coast, oriental people donning on uniforms (Chinese). Railway cars coming up through Mexico. Troops include both Chinese and Russian.

(Target area) is mostly flat and low hills.

The bailout is not enough to stop the hemorrhage.

As the banks scramble the bank runs start. The bank run will be the first sign. He thinks the banks in Europe will go down first. Get money out of the bank now and get supplies, gold coins, have a route to get out of the city quickly, also another possibility is a release of a pandemic.

He believes the first event is financial, second nuclear and third pandemic.

He said he has shared this info with his family. When the info starts to come together he knows that we are close to this event. He says it is a hundred times worse then 9/11.

He feels it is a serious sickness to the whole of mankind.

The worst part is the fear, which is an astral sacrifice to the other demi-god entities.

He says the higher authorities are aware of this. He was told by spirit to call someone.

Bill (Riley) came to mind

He said that there is a connection. He saw signs in the heavens, red sky object things flying in the sky that are not normal, climate shifts, super storms, droughts and famines, signs in the heavens.

The number he received from his contacts, when they do these events, will kill immediately 200,000 to 2,000,000 instantly. As the banks collapse, people will panic and yank their money out... insolvency and debt load. This is not a US problem it is a world problem. As the US initially bailed out the banks in Europe... he thinks the banks in Europe will start first.

As of the late 90s there are perimeter zones that will prevent people from leaving the cities which will be patrolled.

He said they are going to clamp things down and take the grid down and clear off the food on shelves in stores. Need water and food, things one can barter with.

Need to get ready for pestilence, radiation burn, how to protect from radiation and keeping folks in touch with what cities are at risk.

Marshall law will happen after the bank holiday and close down the airports.

They also have it set up to remove people’s weapons and lock down the border to Canada.

He is making preparations today to have a “run and go” pack ready to flee large cities. (He is in L.A.)

Time-line of events will be unleashed on Tuesday.

Shoving out the window on Tuesday but doesn’t know when the landing will be… this could last into spring of next year.

False flag events are already set to occur.

He sees this as the start of a mass starvation of the population.

LA first. Possibly Chicago and NY.

Toward the end of the interview Dr. Deagle gives a prayer he thinks would be useful. Spiritual intervention takes form according to each person's spritual practice. Most of us know future events can be altered with intention. Even a water molecue can be altered half way around the planet by prayer (Dr. Imoto's reseach has shown this to be true.) We need to build our own ground swell of positive intention, each in our own way. If in doubt one can always use Dr. Deagle's prayer.

wes_whitewolf

10-05-2008, 07:10 AM

here's the working David Wilcock interview:

http://projectavalon.net/david_wilcock_4_oct_2008.mp3

:thumb_yello:

Thank You!!!!:thumb_yello:

Please!!!!! Everyone go listen to David Wilcock's take on Bill Deagle:trumpet:

Before we all rush around making fools of ourselves to family and friends claiming nukes are going to go off on Tuesday, do your research first.
Yes, I agree that something is coming but I am not picking up dooms day this coming week...my feelings say its going to be a little slower than the Deagle interview set off with everyone.
Bill & Kerry did a very smart move by calling David and getting his take on Deagle and his reading as an intuitive as well...I think they realized that they jumped the gun on releasing the Deagle interview before establishing his credibility first. David has pointed out that Deagle made claims/prophecies prior to this and was incorrect (never materialized). David also pointed out the Deagle had his medical license yanked because of suspicious practices.
Again, listen to this before going underground based upon Deagles piece: http://projectavalon.net/david_wilcock_4_oct_2008.mp3

Stay calm, in love & light.:original:

Samarkis

10-05-2008, 07:27 AM

Namaste To All!!

We are Light Workers- Pls spread your light!!!!!!! Put up white and blue bubbles of light around the Earth and send love and Hope into our Atmosphere!!!

We stand up to light the way-with calmness,dignity & Love!!!!!

We say No to Nuclear War!!!!

We say No to Injustice !!!!

Pls send your love,Face your fears,Walk thru your fears,& send guidelines to all to lead them to safe passage!!!!!!!!

Blessings,Love,Healing,Hope & Joy that our New Paradigm is unfolding in this
Lifetime!!!!!!!!!http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/spring_fantasy.jpg

truth-freedom

10-05-2008, 07:33 AM

ok, after finding the 1:68 ratio as what the Timewave is based on (8 x 8) the calculations are more simple:
10/07/2008 - 12/21/2012 = 1536 days
1536 * 64 = 98,304 days
12/21/2012 - 98,304 days = Oct 18, 1743.

Anyone see a correlation?

Starlah

10-05-2008, 07:35 AM

Fun 4U Leader

10-05-2008, 07:39 AM

Guys, listen to this phone call (http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3) we got from Dr. Bill that woke us up at 5.30 am. He was really shaken.

Everyone we know and have talked to recently can feel that there is something heavy going on. I personally had a very bad day on Wednesday when I could feel these events palpably (and found myself very worried for my friends in the UK).

Very best to all, Bill

Strange, but for some reason I was not tired Tuesday night and managed only a few hours sleep. I was on the internet in this forum reading and reading almost all night long. Maybe I was looking for something I couldn't fined. Wednesday was also rough for me possibly for that reason alone.

Peace and Unity!

taomation

10-05-2008, 07:40 AM

I actually had a vision this evening about some sort of traumatic event, but didn't feel that is was close to me and I am in LA. I know that everyone is talking about all this doom and gloom and it is obvious why that is. Things look very scary and yet I have felt unafraid and even calm during this.

I guess the other question would be where to go if you are in LA since it looks as though the whole world is going to be affected. Is Canada of Mexico a good thing. Will the Canadians being aftected as much financially as we and the the U.K.

Honestly, I much prefer the October 14th prediction...

Samarkis

10-05-2008, 07:47 AM

Spread The Light!!!!!!
Pls put on these beautiful visuals-
let Mother Earth send healing and love to all!!!
Send it back to her & all within!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zogqRIsB_g

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http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/Earth-Water-37864.jpg

Artycarl

10-05-2008, 08:02 AM

I think it might be wise, whatever your views on Bill Deagle, to make some basic preparations wherever you live. Withdraw some cash, buy some drinking water and food and as Dr Deagle says, if you live near a big city plan your escape route.

If nothing happens the money can be paid back into your bank, the food and water can be consumed and you can go back about your business, but if events transpire on Tuesday to suggest there is a problem then you will be one or two steps ahead of the masses and can avoid some of the panic that will probably ensue.

Fun 4U Leader

10-05-2008, 08:08 AM

I just found this on CNN - fits with Deagle's visions.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03/army.unit/index.html

HistoryCircus, good find!!

I think you are on to something there.

I have always wondered why our National Guard troops remain deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan for seven years since 9-11. It would seem to just tick people off back her in the states, having their loved ones treated like active duty troops year in and year out.

I reasoned all along that it was to give, "The War on Terror" more legitimacy. But, it also provides an excuse to deploy active duty (and eventually U.N.) troops inside the U.S. to deal with homeland security issues.

Were on to them though. Something else to pray and meditate about.

For the cause!http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/images/smilies/trumpet.gif

Samarkis

10-05-2008, 08:24 AM

Lift Your Spirits!!!!!!!!!!

Light the way For All!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VqoxOcEqpk&feature=related

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http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/abr_0063.jpg

Dadrious

10-05-2008, 08:24 AM

A Pawn Is Moved

Ultrarain

10-05-2008, 08:49 AM

thanks for share this

Steve_G

10-05-2008, 09:39 AM

I got dragged right into this last night. Hit me right in the gut. Woke up this morning to find I have a cold. Now I'm feeling like an idiot.

More doom and gloom prophecy. D'Oh! :doh:

I haven't been able to listen to the interviews that followed Deagle cos the links on PC don't go anywhere. Anyone help?

Edit- Just seen Wes Whitewolf's post above, that link to Wilcock is working. Thanks dude.

EYES WIDE OPEN

10-05-2008, 09:53 AM

links to the new phone calls dont work on the camelot site.

happycamper2012

10-05-2008, 09:59 AM

links to the new phone calls dont work on the camelot site.

Rebecca's
http://projectavalon.net/rebecca_jernigan_4_oct_2008_1.mp3

David's is here ;

http://projectavalon.net/david_wilcock_4_oct_2008.mp3

Steve_G

10-05-2008, 10:09 AM

Thanks happycamper :original:

earthdeva

10-05-2008, 01:18 PM

For those who visit this page :am willing to do a large group meditation via the phone in a "confereance room" Sunday October the 5th 2008
I am very experienced in this, and in holding sacred space and directing love and light. If any one chooses to join me in a "mass flow of love" for our planet and the rest of humanity... this would be very powerful!!
My "room" is already.
the number for conference call # is

1-218-936-1200 the code is 06271956#
I am feeling we should do this 3 times tomorrow....Sunday OCtober the 5th 2008
morning afternoon and evening

Please join with me.
earthdeva

the format for the call would be as follows:
it is important that those who choose to come ,be in a meditive mind set.
no visiting, and a quiet background,you are able to mute out on these calls

I am going to go ahead with these calls those who choose to join me are most welcome.

again the conference call # is 1-218-936-1200 the code is 06271956#

this is a powerful way to join "in person" to combine our energeis of love and light and healing for our planet and humanity and all the kingdoms of creator.

the "morning "call will be at 8:00 am pacific time
the "afternoon" call will be at 1:00 pm pacific time
the "evening " call will be at 7:00 pm pacific time

In highest love and light, earthdeva

Merlyn

10-05-2008, 01:35 PM

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Artycarl ... Your advice quoted below given is good and people just need to not fear or panic and stress themself to the point of becoming sick. Just do simple preparations that make sense. Also each person probably should spend some time in peaceful mediation/prayer visualizing the world as they would like it to be.

I think it might be wise, whatever your views on Bill Deagle, to make some basic preparations wherever you live. Withdraw some cash, buy some drinking water and food and as Dr Deagle says, if you live near a big city plan your escape route.

If nothing happens the money can be paid back into your bank, the food and water can be consumed and you can go back about your business, but if events transpire on Tuesday to suggest there is a problem then you will be one or two steps ahead of the masses and can avoid some of the panic that will probably ensue.

=

TranceAm

10-05-2008, 01:50 PM

We need your help now with spiritual intevention...
Please listen to Bill Deagle's interview.

http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3

I keep getting

400 Bad Request
nginx

With Firefox.
So I haven't heard it yet, anyone can put this mp3 on http://www.rapidspread.com/ ?
Thx in advance.

gandrany

10-05-2008, 01:56 PM

We've just come off the phone to a number of people, including Rebecca Jernigan (a psychic intuitive radio host, whom we know), and David Wilcock. Rebecca listened to the call, was shaken, and confirmed that she had 'seen' similar events. We've uploaded our two short conversations with her (http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html), which are worth hearing.

But the entire phone call with David is worth listening to. He responded impressively to our entirely unscheduled call

Very best to all, Bill

Important , to bill :

the conversations files of rebeca and david , are not available for listening or downloading . I've been trying to get acsses to them since morning without success . there seems to a problem with the links there , please check it .

sincerely , gandrany .

sunnyrap

10-05-2008, 02:02 PM

Funny you came up with that--I intuitively came up with the same concept (return to 1776) several days ago. That's what all of this feels like to me.
All the corporate shenanigans and the greed they've inspired in this country notwithstanding, I still believe in the core goodness of Americans and the core desire to live free that the country was founded upon.

I believe this whole last 10 years has been about getting back to basics, cutting the corrupting fat, for the whole country.

But I've always been a bit 'Pollyanna'....

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 02:05 PM

DONT BE AFRAID...the time line has changed....

thanks to a few key people choosing a different stream....

help them...

it has started with a small thought and been nudged by ever vigilant adjusters...

you will see in the next few days a series of revelations and events leading up to this eventuality...

lend them your energy and emotional charge....

the PTB will be tried and arrested...

they will be revealed and made known...

tell everyone....

Think about how rough it would be for the perps to be outed....

a great routing of the rats nest...

at the top levels of government...

it would be a very turbulent time for all nations id imagine...

THATS the rough time im prepared for..in fact you would probably NEED food and water and gas and such because it would be VERY destabilizing...but destabilizing for the better...

quit being afraid and start getting excited...

the game is afoot...nobody has lookinglass...

YOU are the LOOKING GLASS...

a quote from my album...

"Prophecy is an abstract compass to the future. It is conveyed so that it may be read to find every solution and every possible outcome, to reinforce the statement, "Seek and you shall find." it is a way of explaining the concept that the entirety of the universe and all of creation are before you and you may eternally explore...choosing your path consistently. This is your pilgrimage. This is your right. This is what you are...You are a choice..."

help the white hats...

dont listen to fear mongering from self proclaimed drs and intuitives...

Listen to the creator

scanner

10-05-2008, 02:09 PM

:welcomeani: went on camelots site followed links , says links not found is it me or them ?

eaglespirit

10-05-2008, 02:10 PM

We Knew This was Coming and That IS Why We Are Here!

CONSCIOUSNESS WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING TO LOVE !!!

We Can Upgrade The Energy All Around Us Together Around The World So That These Events That Are Now Being Foreseen In The Now Can Be Changed By Us To Love In The Now and Can Be Dissolved Almost As Soon As They Appear And That Dissolving Energy Shapeshifted To A New Energy And A New Way Of Being Almost Instantly In Time As We Know It As More Of Us Consciously Will It !

"Will It" Into Love Together As Never Before And We Will Help Create A Place Right In Front Of Us 100 Times More Harmonious and Loving Than Never And Ever Before Felt And Experienced.

Combined Loving Consciousness IS Changing Everything Right Now!

Simply BE That Loving Consciousness!

http://heartofthedolphin.com/heartweavingdolphin.jpg

It IS That Simple!

feeler

10-05-2008, 02:22 PM

Whether Deagle's message is fear-based depends on how the listener reacts to it. David Wilcock's message adds balance to the mix. Perhaps the truth will turn out somewhere in-between.

What struck me is that hardly everyone here in this thread suggests that we should contact our local representative or congressperson. It shows how detached we are in the political decision making process. I don't think this is what democracy is supposed to be.

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 02:25 PM

Dr Deagle is terrified because he wont be able to make money off people being afraid!

all these people espousing fear are afraid themselves...

because they arent REALLY connected, they just pretend to be...

like i used to when i was afraid...

in the end....when its you taking your last breath...its just you and the force that moves through all things...which you then recognize as yourself...and revelation comes to pass...and its wonderful because you are revealed as yourself and all illusion falls away...

thats what happened when i died for a few minutes...

now capture that...NOW. and you dont have to die to feel that...

YOU HAVE TO LIVE.

choose right now....

do you choose hopelessness and fear and death?

or do you choose life and uncertainty and adventure and power?

i know where i stand..

this is my planet after all...

Myplanet2

10-05-2008, 02:32 PM

There are degrees of connectedness. It's necessary to allow for how connected others are.

It's also real to me that many are connected on one level, and disconnected on others.

It's why discernment is basic to this whole game right now.

TranceAm

10-05-2008, 02:36 PM

do you choose hopelessness and fear and death?

or do you choose life and uncertainty and adventure and power?

3rd choice: I choose Existence. And everything that comes with it. :-)

i know where i stand..
At least you are NOT on your knees.

this is my planet after all..

Yes, for the time being, this is our planet. For us to play with.
And then to hand the responsibility for it over to the next generation.

Steve_G

10-05-2008, 02:40 PM

Having had time to think about it I think Deagle was ground zero for a sort of psychic bomb. I don't think he was acting, he genuinely was that upset. He then phones B&K, they release the phone call and the effects spread out like a blast zone. The effects have been mitigated by the people on this forum supporting each other and by David Wilcock's response providing the balance.

Much kudos to B&K for providing that balance as soon as they did.

p.s. PTB = Powers That Be (NWO, Illuminati, Power Elite, Bas**rds etc), HPH = Half Past Human (interview posted 1st Oct on Project Camelot)

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 02:40 PM

yep

eaglespirit

10-05-2008, 02:41 PM

Is Anyone Listening To The Phone Calls?

Through and Through and IN ENTIRETY!

These Phone Calls Are Meant To Help Us So That WE CAN CHANGE THINGS!

NOT through politics, government, commerce, religion and on and on...

BUT

THROUGH OUR OWN HEARTS RIGHT NOW!

We Are Being Given This Information By Kerry and Bill So That We Can Come Together and WILL IT INTO LOVE from meaningless fear ...
BEFORE IT HAPPENS!

We have the power to change this, and right now, and they do not want us to know, but we already know, and LOVE has already gone exponential and will be even more powerfully exponential as each one of us decides it to be!

thedarke

10-05-2008, 02:44 PM

lovepromoter

10-05-2008, 02:45 PM

so its not the bit where the dolphins say 'so long, and thanks for all the fish' lol
peace and love to all, lets enjoy the ride
xx

lovepromoter

10-05-2008, 02:48 PM

yeah i heard something about avian flu a while ago, how it jumped a gene barrier or mutated or sumting of the kind and could do so again at any minute, and the probability for it jumping the first gene mutation was phenominally high. strange days huh?

Avid

10-05-2008, 02:52 PM

I felt physically ill when listening to Bill Deagle, then I listened to David, and it balanced out. Poor Bill and Kerry probably didn't get any sleep last night!
I thank them for providing balanced viewpoints.
Today is the first day for ages with a beautiful clear blue sunny sky, I sat in my garden and loved everything in it.
I thank the lady for the healing Solfeggio frequence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJUu-xiJPx8&feature=related) to allay fear - it works!
I will now be sitting quietly concentrating on sending love and light to those who wish to create chaos.
Love, strength and power to you all.:)

ChristinCP

10-05-2008, 02:54 PM

We all need to focus on something extremely positive and uplifting, in the ascension sense. I don't know, but I've been trying to visualize a ball of green/white/purple glowing energy, and focus it on areas that may be in harms way, or over loved ones to protect them. Additionally, trying to subconciously locate the illuminati involved in the rituals to lessen their effects.

ChristinCP

10-05-2008, 02:59 PM

That explains why I got different content on each listen. It was a download problem.

Each download I've tried showed an elapsed time of 23 minutes plus change. Half of the 46 minutes.

I've now heard the 46 min conversation and it's all there.

Still kind of odd that a 23 min mp3 would play for different durations like 27 min or 25 min and play different portions of a longer file on subsequent attempts.

Not sure how that's possible.

I noticed this as well. Weird. I still can't even get to the other phone calls. Are they all posted yet?

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 03:11 PM

its over. the hell scenario has been cut off ahead of its stream.
we are onto something else entirely now.
give thanks...though we still arent through the woods yet!

my affirmation:

"Thank you creator for hearing my prayers and giving us a new scenario one without hopelessness and fear. Thank you for the opportunity to grow in you and thanks for bringing these poor misguided fools to light and your divine justice."

Aho

TranceAm

10-05-2008, 03:15 PM

Sky Otter

10-05-2008, 03:20 PM

wow
took a while to read up, i went to bed at page 5..
lots of nice pics - thanks and i have to say i thought of something
that i want to share

i think that the number of folks signing up for this forum shows
that Bill and Kerry are pulling some wieght and that that just might scare a few of the other guys
and really reading anything here, even with some sniping, things are mostly very positive and forward looking in a helpful way
even with this stomach punch of a deagle phone call no one paniced
or went to fear..really read all about it..it was all positive based
but it wasn't directed to being helpful in any way

so what have our negitive other half learned about us?
first and sadly for me i dumbed my normal rule of check the facts first
and becasue of who kerry and Bill are..and how we have trusted them
to bring us good info
i jumped in without thinking..
the emotion took over
so now they know we can be baited
and perhaps directed

i think something is going to happen also..and i have my plan in place
and i think when the communications go down, and they will, that is the time to act..but that is just my idea

earth deva..thanks you had a great idea and plan for focusing
and peaceful warrrior that is a really good vision to hold

dang..empty coffee cup = empty brain

anyhow i think i made my point

read without emotion and the think about it
and then look up whatever you can about who said what
and then think about it some more
then let the emotion in
that way if we are being led somehow
we will have at least given it our best shot of resisting

hugs all around
dian :flowers2:

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 03:20 PM

everything IS changing.
but i assure you there is nothing but good that will come from it

Sky Otter

10-05-2008, 03:37 PM

thunderbird

i agree
it is changing and it will be fine
but it is also naive to think
it won't be tough first

hugs
D :wub2:

feeler

10-05-2008, 03:42 PM

Information about phone call going Viral:

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=215146

Dr Bill Deagle phoned us early in the morning (in Australia, where we're here for the NEXUS Conference) to report a long night of visions and received information about imminent events which left him shaken to the core. The events Deagle saw seemed to depict a nuclear attack on an American city, following soon after an even more precipitous financial collapse set to occur in the next few days.

We published this call unedited, and immediately. The audio quality is excellent. If the information Bill Deagle reports is accurate, then nothing could be more important.

We straight away called a number of our witnesses including David Wilcock, Michael St.Clair and Rebecca Jernigan. David and Michael both felt that the events seen by Deagle would not transpire. Rebecca, however, told us that Deagle's visions had been seen by herself also.

Rebecca listened to all of our phone call with Deagle. Michael was listening to it as we spoke. David declined to listen to it at all.

David felt that the events would not occur for three reasons:
-- The ETs would not permit it.
-- The Illuminati might be willing to kill large numbers of people, but not destroy vast tracts of real estate and infrastructure.
-- He would have received notice of this himself.

Here are contrasting reports from these three intuitives offering all perspectives to this information:
• Phone call with Dr Bill Deagle.
• Short phone calls here and here with Rebecca Jernigan.
• Phone call with David Wilcock.

_______________________________

I will keep my comment to the bare minimum. As of Now the Brits are engaged in a VERY large scale military exercise as are also the Russians. Or so I am led to believe by news reports. As I informed my wife this morning WE are in an Historic period like none before and the world we know is about to change and will never be the same again.I do not want to invoke a sense of fear nor a sense of complacency But it would seem the cascade of events we have and are witnessing right now will come to a head in our very near future.

If you listen to the audio please go to the very end for there is a glimmer of hope ... WE CAN turn it all around.

http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3

http://projectcamelot.org/index.html

The Zetas, of ZetaTalk (the "white-lie site" with Nancy Lieder), commented on the significance of Oct 7, ironically, similar to Wilcock's line of thinking. feeler

Would you please address the recent prediction of HalfPastHuman regarding October 7th?

HalfPastHuman has a good prediction accuracy track record, and thus we will address them. As they fully acknowledge, everything they predict is a guess, like reading the entrails of chickens thrown on the floor, only a hunch. Their data comes from the collective conscious, as they analyze word frequency and association. There is truth to the obsessions of the public, but not necessarily truth to the outcome of their obsessions.

For instance, there has been worry about war with Iran, about Israel making a bombing run against Iran. We have stated that this will be blocked, and has been blocked, by the contingent blocking Bush and the neocons. But the public is not aware of what goes on behind the scenes, only the sense they gather from watching Cheney, et al. who rattle sabers about Iran. Recently an article was published about what had been going on behind the scenes, that Israel requested a corridor through Iraq, refueling planes, and requesting more bunker busting bombs. All this was refused by the Department of Defense (DOD), as it was obvious that a bombing run on Iran was the goal.

Thus, those forming the database for HalfPastHuman were wrong in their prediction of Israeli aggression, though not wrong in their concerns. October 7 is a time when an October surprise might occur, soon enough before the election to ruin things for Obama, or so the thinking goes, but not so close to the election that the public would not have time to be informed. Thus, the October 7 date. As we have explained, no October surprise will occur regarding this, as this is being blocked so the McCain camp will not succeed, though they certainly are plotting such things.

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 03:51 PM

aint NOBODY not down for some tough *****...ahem double negatives abound...in fact i would even venture so far as to say MOST people on this board actually WELCOME some tough times as strange as that sounds...

i know there have been days that i did.

"gosh wouldnt it be nice to not have to pay just to be alive?'
"jeez things cant keep going like this.."
"gosh i cant wait to be growin my OWN dam food!"

you know what im talkin about...

but for the world to all at once descend into hell...?

i think NOT.

*** the fear. It aint real.
its prudent to have food stores..
its wise to have a plan
its smart to know your neighbors and who you can trust..
its ***kin brilliant to know how to survive!

its weak to spread fear
its small to think that the weak souls that need to plan for generations and use occult symbolism and prey on fear are at all powerful...
they are desperate and scared.

they are weak and insignificant and they know it...
thats why they hide in shadows...
thats why they manipulate
because in the full light of knowing
they will dissipate..

and thats WHATS HAPPENING...everybody is knowing...

theres no room for shadows in a room full of light.

I AM A WARRIOR OF LIGHT.
I AM THE ARCH ANGEL MICHAEL.
I AM JESUS.
I AM GHANDI.
I AM A LITTLE CHILD OF GOD.

and in humility i am asking you to believe the same about yourself...

Eon

10-05-2008, 03:55 PM

Of course it's probable that the powers that be have some dirty tricks up their sleeve next week.
But the danger is that if all members of the camelot/avalon community align their potential into this negativity we might tip the balance in the wrong direction and make his vision happen by panicking about it.

This is also just released, for instance:

Zeitgeist part 2

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZi-gQENkk

Also available through bittorrent/usenet

An eye opener for many, I think.
And the contents of this documentary might just align many in a vision of a more positive future path.
First half is an evaluation, second half describes a positive alternative.

Let's all focus on a harmonious future.

Or you could do both.

Prepare for the worst Deagle scenario and at the same time meditate for the best, most positive vision that you can create within yourself.

May we all succeed together in bringing this about

Reading the messages of this thread, I can feel the fear and panic that Bill Deagle message spreads among the "project avalon" community.
There is one chinese saying that goes more or less like this : " When you have a problem, either there is a solution, and then there is no need to worry; And if there is no solution, worrying is of no use " :biggrin2:

I am convinced that Being calm and focusing on an harmonious future is essential, whatever happens. If our thought can change the reality, we'd better focus on a image of the world as we wish it to be and not as some try to dictate us.

Several channellers have received the message that a event will occur on the October 14th that could greatly change people awareness of the world they are living in. It is a very positive message that ET's want to send us. They would show up in the southern hemisphere on that date. In such a way that nobody could deny their existence.

See the channelled message here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_vDFHRR12A&feature=related

The channeller is http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/

I am hoping that this happens because it would be an wake up call for a mass of people. And this is really what we need: more awaken people and more focus on an harmonious future whatever happens!

THANK YOU ALL

TranceAm

10-05-2008, 04:10 PM

Reading the messages of this thread, I can feel the fear and panic that Bill Deagle message spreads among the "project avalon" community.

Talking in awareness about what is going on, is not fear, it is facing full front and open vizer to whatever will come.

Thunderbird... :-)
Made a very good post (Haven't seen to many of him that aren't good. But there is but so much reputation to share.)
I for me can't wait for this world to change for the better.
Even if it is going to take some hardship in the change.

However, there is that other quote:
"Be careful what you wish for, sometimes wishes come true."

RaKaR

10-05-2008, 04:20 PM

I salute you, Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have to say that the reactions to this information/perspective of the large majority on this Forum and the current mood around here are a Steady Source of Hope and Elevation.
The times ahead are truly exceptional.
Whatever happens, i do know something for sure, though, that is, that We ultimately create our own Destiny, for our True Essence is stronger, finer than the possible mere temporal and physical transformations. Our Astral Self is Infinite.

I posted the following on another thread about the same topic(Mr Bill Deagle's Visions); it might be useful as well here.

Default Re: Urgent Message from Bill Deagle Blood Sacrifice of US

There is a collective Peace Meditation taking place worldwide today, based on the Plejaran's Healing Technics.
Each Peace Meditation session lasts 20 minutes and takes place on the first and the third weekends of the month (target day is always the first Saturday of the month).
The Meditation will take place twice, according to the following schedule:

Schedule for North America - Sunday
PST Los Angeles 11.00 AM Noon
MST Salt Lake City Noon 1.00 PM
CST Tulsa 1:00 PM 2:00 PM
EST Miami 2:00 PM 3:00 PM

'Exceptions: Arizona does not follow daylight savings!'

Schedule for Europe - Saturday
GMT London, UK 17:30 19:00
CET Amsterdam, NL 18:30 20:00
EET Helsinki, Finland 19:30 21:00
MSK Moskou, Russia 20:30 22:00

Schedule for Europe - Sunday
GMT London, UK 19:00 20:00
CET Amsterdam, NL 20:00 21:00
EET Helsinki, Finland 21:00 22:00
MSK Moskou, Russia 22:00 23:00

'Europe uses 'Military style' time notation, 00:00 - 23:59; not the AM/PM timescheme.'

Information for Australia:
Eastern
Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST) is equal to Greenwich Mean Time plus 10 hours (GMT +10).
AEST is followed in these regions:
* New South Wales (except Broken Hill)
* Victoria
* Queensland
* Tasmania
* Australian Capital Territory

Central
Australian Central Standard Time (ACST) is equal to Greenwich Mean Time plus 9 ½ hours (GMT +9 ½).
ACST is followed in these regions:
* South Australia
* Northern Territory
* Broken Hill, NSW

Western
Australian Western Standard Time (AWST) is equal to Greenwich Mean Time plus 8 hours (GMT +8).
AWST is followed in these regions:
* Western Australia
Daylight Saving

New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Tasmania, and the Australian Capital Territory from early to late October to the end of March observe daylight saving time. Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory do not observe daylight savings.
Where daylight saving is being observed:

* AEST becomes Australian Eastern Daylight Time (AEDT), and clocks are advanced to GMT +11.
* ACST becomes Australian Central Daylight Time (ACDT), and clocks are advanced to GMT +10 ½.

For Japan, add 8 hours to all CET time for the correct meditation times.

(More information at:http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Spiritual_Teachings#The_ Peace_ Meditation
or: http://theyfly.com/spiritual/peacemeditation.htm )

The basics of this Meditation is the focused, as conscious as possible, repetition, during 20 minutes, of the Lyrian Sentence:

"Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!"
"Peace be on Earth, and among all beings!"

The vowels in the meditation sentence are pronounced in English phonetics as follows:

Saalome (aa = father) gum naan (aa = father) ben uurda (uu = crew, moo) gun neeber asaala (aa = father) hesporona (o = tone, go).

Posture:

1. The meditators either sit at a normal height (no upholstered seats or the like) around a table, or else, they take a lotus/cross-legged position or sit on their haunches on a carpeted surface, whereby a small stool or a cushion, blanket, and so forth, is used as a seat. It is important that the spine and the head be relaxed and upright throughout the entire meditation period.
[ 2. The minimum distance to the pyramid must be more than 50 cm (20"), measured from the chest to the pole of the antenna.
3. Participants seated around a table hold hands with those beside them and are, therefore, linked together in a closed circle. The palm of the left hand points upward and clasps from underneath the right hand of the person to the left, while the right hand, palm down, holds the left open palm of the person to the right.] = with special Pyramid.
4. Another permissible position while not holding hands is as follows: When meditating on the floor, the back of the open palm may be placed upon the knees, while the fingertips, curled upwards, point toward the meditator's forehead. As a variation, the hands can be placed, palm-down, upon the person's own thighs, whereby the fingertips rest at the knees.
5. In another version, for those sitting on the floor (5 persons or more), the person's own left thigh (above the knee) and the thigh of the meditator to the right serve to support the person's hands (which are positioned as described in #3).
[ 6. When the individual meditates at a table, both arms are extended toward the left and right sides of the pyramid in front of the individual, hands held open vertically with fingertips pointing toward the pyramid while the narrow edge of the palms rests on the table.] = with special Pyramid.
7. The meditation, respectively speaking the Lyrian sentence, is performed with the eyes closed.

At the end of the 20 minutes, possibly signaled through a muffled beep (e.g., put a towel over a flower pot that covers a kitchen alarm or the like), the participants should "rest" with closed eyes, while holding the same position 2-3 minutes longer until the designated person announces "yes."

Ensure that the meditation is performed without disturbances; hence, free from pagers or [cellular] phones ringing, unannounced visitors at the door, TV sounds or similar noise!

Peace and Wisdom.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Shechaiyah

10-05-2008, 04:24 PM

Based on the behavior of parasitic and predatory Elites over the past hundred and forty years, it's time it all comes down.

Although humanity is a mammalian race, there is enough Reptile/Reptoid/Reptilian blood in our veins, we don't all act like socially-responsible MAMMALS: We don't all tell the truth; we're not all egalitarian sufficient to practice Fairness; and we've even forgotten what Justice IS, what Justice constitutes.

Wishing or pretending alone do not stave off bad outcomes that have been built into the system TO victimize some population sets and favor other population sets, over a long period.

Neither does planning, because planning is a function of certainty; and whether to remain mobile or dig in with supplies is the first unknown element in everyone's safety equation.

What is certain is, nobody gets out of here with an intact physical form in any case; so we have to prepare ourselves mentally for changes we never asked for.

Dr. Deagle, if you have seen his web-sites, is a control freak. Naturally, these changes disturb his (or anyone's) sense of control.

Astronomically, Old Sol is under travail; NASA is photographing Nibiru every day, and black ops make exo-politics a very uncertain domain at the moment.

Good luck, y'all.

Shech-- Editedt to correct typos

doodah

10-05-2008, 04:37 PM

Keep your light shields up at all times, folks. Everything has meaning right now (well, it always does, but it's intense right now). As Warriors of Light, we will come under attack as we work against this Darkness.

Be fierce in your Love. No, they cannot have this planet. No we will not allow any kind of interdimensional "sacrifice" that harms the life on this planet. Bizarre psychic expriences, terrifying dreams, physical "accidents," -- all of these are symbolic and metaphorical right now.

We ARE strong, and we are remembering who we are, Beings of Light. If we ever doubted that, now's not the time to doubt. We must put on our armor now and keep it on and never forget why we are here.

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 04:40 PM

im with the grand poobah doodah

doodah

10-05-2008, 04:44 PM

Thank you, Thunderbird, Wonderbird. May you fly high and guard this beautiful world.

PTTurboe

10-05-2008, 04:50 PM

Possible Bird Flu in Alaska:

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/10040802/PoW_Delay.html

http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=9116462

LoveLight

10-05-2008, 05:05 PM

after listening to Bill's message last evening ... after making notes...I then asked Guidance..."Rainbow Guidance"...that is my Higher Source, and was shared a resounding NO...there will be NO catyclismic events...the Financial ruin WILL definitely happen, HOWEVER, that is very serious...given these times...and will for some, feel like a "bomb"...when the financial community finally reveals itself...it will be devastating to many...I have been shared to prepare, as you would for any emergency...and this pandemic, I believe will also be thwarted...my Guidance is very accurate...

and I know L.A. was mentioned...however, it was warm and FLAT...L.A. is NOT Flat....it is VERY Hilly...

Guidance shared ... refrain from fear...it is the fear of the people that will create the turmoil....every Moment has been divinely planned...and all is in perfect order...we have shared the impending financial crisis for a very long time...at least the last 1.5 years...

so...I share with each of YOU, PLEASE remain calm...PRAY...MEDITATE...GATHER with friends and relatives ...be prepared to sustain for at least a week, possibly longer....KNOW in your HEARTS...with our VERY THOUGHTS, WE CREATE Our Realities~

...and on this note....LOL...My birthday is October 7th...Happy Freakin Birthday to ME! ROFL...and I truly AM Laughing...for I KNOW this NEEDS to happen and am Honoured that the Universe...chose my Bday for CHANGE...for REconstruction of the most powerful entity in the world...Our Government...LOL...so this is my gift from the Universe!

I share BLESSINGS of LOVE with each of YOU! and am happy to calm any fears! FEAR NOT...for it is in ALL PERFECT Order!
courtland

feeler

10-05-2008, 05:26 PM

Just want to list some possible explanations not through Deagle's fault:

1. Images induced by recent financial trauma that Deagle suffered.

2. Implanted images by black op/alien agenda inc.

3. His channeling is somehow in sync with the visions of the psychos.

Ali Quadir

10-05-2008, 05:42 PM

But through these guys it's an attack on all of us. And did you see people running? I swear some of us are already hiding in the forest with their fingers in their ears screaming "lalalalalalala" over this.

The joke's on us. This is what a psychic attack looks like, and through Deagle with the credit we invested in his word it's an attack on us... This is all it is and too many fell for it hook line and sinker. Most of those that didn't fall for it at least felt it.

Well good, now we know what it feels like. Jesus told us to recognize the tree by it's fruits... So remember this. This will happen again.

There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

Ali Quadir

10-05-2008, 05:43 PM

My birthday is October 7th...
Hah :) Apparently october 7 we have an excuse to celebrate....

bill

10-05-2008, 05:49 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/04/gadahn.video/index.html

This story just appeared on CNN today, if everyone may remember the american turned terrorist guy, he's on the FBI's most wanted list, just put out a video I believe.......if these nuclear events occur, we may see it somehow being related to this guy........just a thought as the media seems to spin things leading up to events.

Prepare and Be SAFE!!!

Regards and Blessings,
Soul Sequence

Oh give me a break

Adam Pearlman is a Mossad agent

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/300507phonytape.htm

but this is interestingif the MSM is pushing this

it does give credence to an approaching false flag event

AMA-GI

10-05-2008, 06:14 PM

Hi,

There are bad things going to happen, and unfortunatly, many will die.
We will have to seek different places to live, and live we will, but not as the way we are accustomed to.
I wish the things i knew were untrue, but i know they will happen. I do belive if we were in greater number we could change these events, but as it stands we are too few.
These events have been planned, the nwo know the prophecies of old and are carrying them out accordingly timed with astrology.
I can give a few words to those wishing to listen,
Be not affraid of that which is about to come, as this fear could become your death.
If you see the signs to leave your house, do so, as you are not running in fear, but acting out of survival.
Do not be foolish and stubborn to think that, 'i will not run from this', Seek out your groups and learn from one another. This is nothing more than survival, and by surviving you can help others who need your help. What good are you to others if you have ignored the warnings and are not able to teach/help others.

Suriel

10-05-2008, 06:18 PM

Okay, ummm, I hate to be a bearer of bad news. But did Dr. Deagle mention a city that was flat? Uhhhhhh.. Oh my!

look at this:

What: Presidential Debate: October 7th in Nashville, TN

When: October 7th, 2008 9:00 PM ET

Where: Belmont University, Nashville, TN

Could this be the city in his vision? I hope that homelandsecurity is keeping a close eye on things.

Peace.

mudhog92

10-05-2008, 06:29 PM

Not living in fear, or reacting in fear, but making informed decisions. Listen to Deagle's message, don't panic. It's to spread knowledge, not fear. It's not much different than what we have heard is going on and coming to head. It has to collapse. It is all built on greed and negativity, disharmony with Gaia.

I don't want to live in chaos, but I feel my life experiences-many tuff ones-have prepared me to survive in chaos. Seeking all this knowledge has prepared me to make the necessary decisons to help myself and others.

Live in love, live in the light, but the amount of energy that has been expended by the PTB has to unfold. We might be able to take the edge off by praying, but too much has been set in motion. I don't want to be a doomsayer, but that's how I feel . I call myelf a realist. I don't get excited or worked up over very much, but when the poop hits the fan, I seem to rise to the occasion and wind up becoming a leader or sorts.

I think bad stuff is coming. I have educated myself on all the possibilities, have sucesfully lived my rough life and survived, I am not scared or fearful---but I am prepared. If nothing happens, well then I have enough camping supplies for my entire extended family!

I had a dream last night that my deceased grandmother looked at me and smiled and said 'don't worry it'll all be OK", then my deceased closest friend was happy I am where I am. . . good timing eh?!?

micjer

10-05-2008, 06:51 PM

Suriel,

I don't think that it is Nashville. I have been there and I wouldn't consider it that flat. It is actually rather hilly. There are certainly alot flatter cities out there.

micjer

10-05-2008, 07:07 PM

I want to thank everyone for their input into this alarming phone call. That is why this forum is so important. If you don't stand back and analyze information that is given to us we can easily get caught up in the fear spiral in a hurry.

One point I would like to contribute is in regards to Genetically Modified foods. I am a farmer with a University degree so I think I am qualified to say that the majority of crops grown today are NOT GM. It takes years to develop the genetics. It is not something that someone can do in a blink of an eye. All of the wheat, barley, navy beans, and peas we grow are from natural seed. We grow some GM corn which is sold to an ethanol plant.
We do not have to grow it though as there is still non-GMO seed available.

My point is for Dr Deagle to say they are going to feed everyone GM food is instilling unnecessary fear in my mind. Hope this helps.

Adarajones

10-05-2008, 07:17 PM

Suriel,

I don't think that it is Nashville. I have been there and I wouldn't consider it that flat. It is actually rather hilly. There are certainly alot flatter cities out there.

Micjer, you are absolutely correct. Besides, Dr. Deagle also mentioned that it would be on or near the coast.

:lightsabre:

sunnyrap

10-05-2008, 07:20 PM

Didn't Chicago come in the Deagle conversation? It is coastal in a sense, being on the 'coast' of a Great Lake...definitely flat. Not that I want Chicago to get hit by any means, but it fits the description much more than L.A....

pineal-pilot-in merkabah

10-05-2008, 07:20 PM

like wilcock saifd it could be symbolic of a financial style nuclear sized implosion.. flat plain with a city?? las vegas is in a flat place between the mountians.. also check this uk mainsteam media article in a big uk daily broadsheet.. when these folks are catching on dont you think the NEW WORLD ORDER illuminati bankers are getting rumbled somehow.. its jsut most havnt put 2 +2 toghether yet.. people slowly conectong dots now..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1058601/Apocalypse-Now--New-world-order-devastating-implications-Western-nations.html

pineal-pilot-in merkabah

10-05-2008, 07:23 PM

also larry silverstein is the owner of the sears tower in chicago is he not.. and look a the illuminati (steve jackson) card game of 1996 it shows a mushroom cloud with a skull in it over what looks like the sears tower..

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1856.cfm

Sunrider

10-05-2008, 07:23 PM

The audio for the Bill Deagle phone call has been taken down.....Do you think maybe SOMEBODIES took it down?
Maybe he was right on the money?:shocked:

dragonfly

10-05-2008, 07:23 PM

There are certainly alot flatter cities out there.

Yeah, Like Phoenix. Only, no where near the sea.

What we put our energy into is very important right now. Be open for your inner guidence.

I listened to the first part of Deagle before leaving for work. The most disturbing part that is. "smile" I felt a twinge inside that it was time to prepare. I did not feel crazy scared, but more accepting to whatever it really meant. Create Fear. I at once noticed it within myself and banished it as I refuse to feed anything that feeds on it. I brought up to surface the light within and felt I will be needed soon.

I had a strange experience on my way home form work last night, after some shopping for prepetory supplies:winksmiley02:, and I was 3rd car on the scene of a large white pick-up truck that had smashed into the rock wall along the canyon road, went about 30 feet smashing and spinning, tires coming off, and it stopped blocking both lanes of traffic. Right befor I got there, one wittness saw the whole thing and said he (the driver) got out of the truck, hopped on the back of someones motorcycle and split the scene. I could not reach my home as that is the only road. My feeling was calm, in a weird way, but a sort of serenity washed over me. 2 hours later they had it passable, but when the trooper got there, he pulled things out of the truck, for eveidence I presume. One large camaflage bag and a shotgun is all I saw. Irrelivant perhaps, but inside I felt a click of chaos beginning it's intensity. That I must remain alert and open to my inner voice. Anything can happen at anytime. Be in the now. I felt a strong sense that Calm is key.

Just felt like sharing.

Cheers all

Gnosis5

10-05-2008, 07:26 PM

Even though your insight is not popular, I tend to agree with you. One time, after I gave a remote session to a highly placed leader I was "attacked" with similar spiritual agony and I knew it was someone likewise reading my pictures and sending me these messages. They know what makes you as an individual afraid and they are able to turn the volume up in your mind.

How do Bill and Cary "test the spirits" so to speak?

My guides tell me that he has been targeted with psychic disinformation. They are attempting to insert fear consciousness into the people who listen to alternative media. They have seen what is really going to happen on the week of Oct. 7th and they are the ones that are scared s--tless.

They task their psychic disinformation hardware and assets on people who they deem of strategic worthiness. I have had one occasion of them doing this to myself when I was battleing thier entire superstructure of nasty shaman. That was the only thing they where able to crack through with and it was temporarily highly effective.

And yes, the chair is still in use. More than likely multiple versions of it.

Suriel

10-05-2008, 07:29 PM

You are probably right. I just thought it was a coincidence that the debate is on october 7th.

Let's hope nothing happens.

Peace.

Gnosis5

10-05-2008, 07:30 PM

How do you account for Dr. Deagle experiencing the same feelings and insights before 9/11? I think he has seen a pattern and now has more confidence in his visions.

But through these guys it's an attack on all of us. And did you see people running? I swear some of us are already hiding in the forest with their fingers in their ears screaming "lalalalalalala" over this.

The joke's on us. This is what a psychic attack looks like, and through Deagle with the credit we invested in his word it's an attack on us... This is all it is and too many fell for it hook line and sinker. Most of those that didn't fall for it at least felt it.

Well good, now we know what it feels like. Jesus told us to recognize the tree by it's fruits... So remember this. This will happen again.

There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 07:34 PM

I wanted to give everyone something to think about. I recently came across a thread where the chinese had ticking time bombs of citizens with a dormant avian flu strain in their systems and once exposed to a certain chemical the avian flu would activate and be able to be spread. I can't remember where I saw this at, but I will try to find the post. What if this fits into the equation of the chinese becoming involved in all of this. Just a thought......any opinions or has anyone heard about this?????????????

You mean like the chemical in the milk they've been feeding their babies?

What will happen when the flew season comes through this year after they have been exposed to the chemical?

some times, evil plans turn against those who created them...

Shechaiyah

10-05-2008, 07:42 PM

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/Earth-Water-37864.jpg

I find this all the time, what I call a "chop-job" that renders a lovely scene out of something quite different.

In order to "fix" this photo, one has to be able to see the human forms embedded in it -- living human forms. The carved rock face of an old man confounded me for a while.

The photo as you showed it has a scale of 1024 by 768; and it is falsely colored. Once I was able to recognize and identify the human figures, then it was not difficult to correct the scale, so that the human figures were in human-like proportions, not like bean poles. So, the scale is now 680 by 230, half its "prepared" vertical size.

I used low hue values because so much of this photo is in shadow. There are at least four men standing the water near piers on the right. There are decks, scaffolding, paths, and people all over the place. Notice the family in the leftside foreground, now in proportion and not hidden.

http://www.holyconservancy.org/images/earth/woodland/Earth-Water-37864RS.jpg

This was fun for me. I love to try to get back the original flavor of a photo, as you know. It's a form of photographic forensics, I guess.

:lmao: Shech--

Pressure Drop

10-05-2008, 07:48 PM

I've been trying to wrap my mind around Bill Deagles phone call since it was posted last night. This in conjunction with the lead up through the half past human phone interview. One thing that I try to take into consideration in relation to use this type is what kind of response it evokes inside of me. Over these last few days I unfortunately have been living in a fear response which has led to a slight degree of panic on my part. Unfortunately each time something like this transpires I seem to forget the last time it happened. But the result is always the same. Whatever it was I was terrified of and existing in a state of fear around, either did not transpire or came about in a manner little resembling the initial reaction .

While it is very likely that some event may transpire on the seventh of October I would be more inclined to align my thoughts and hopes with what David Wilcock and others have been putting forth. This is for two reasons the first being a lot of the people who have been offering positive prospects for the future seem to have a lot more information in relation to who they and where they come from .with this said I would appreciate it if someone could tell me exactly who Bill Deagle is .This morning I realized I was freaking out over something someone had said and that someone was a person who I had never heard of before. I could get equally worked up over the yearly coast to coast the phone in prophecy show they do each new year. Not to mention the fact that history is littered with people making dire prophecies that never transpire. Please don't get me wrong I am completely on board with the belief that the human race is about to make a massive jump in consciousness. And in this process there could be much turmoil that transpires.But something tells me that this can only be done through the sacrifice and surrender of our fears .(please note that these words come from an ex-survivalist and ex-member of an apocalypse cult).

My second point is to concur with the person who posted the suspicion that this had the earmarks of a psychic attack. I think the evidence of this is pretty much in plain sight. At least for myself it threatened to push me off into a state of personal chaos. I had to remind myself that we are essentially at war right now. And this war is one of the spiritual nature. It would make sense to take a swipe at a group of people who are trying sincerely to make a difference. If we refer back to the interview with Cliff High he states that release language has neither a positive or negative alignment. If I wanted to take a shot at all the people who are participating in what project Avalon is doing I would've seen this as a perfect opportunity to inject fear or into this corner of the matrix.(please note that when I say war I believe we are using the force of love to combat our enemy, please pardon the mild contradiction through the use of the word war. Spiritual pillow fight doesn't seem to fit the bill)

Or I could be totally wrong and were heading up crap creek without a plank to paddle.

Only time will tell

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Frank Herbert -Dune

Hmm hmm hmm, yeah...

It is you (oh yeah)
It is you, you (oh yeah)
It is you (oh yeah)

Cause a pressure drop, oh pressure
Oh yeah pressure drop a drop on you
I say a pressure drop, oh pressure
Oh yeah pressure drop a drop on you

I say when it drops, oh you gonna feel it
Know that you were doing wrong.

Hmm hmm hmm, yeah...
I say a pressure drop, oh pressure
Oh yeah, pressure drop a drop on you

Toots And The Maytals - Pressure Drop

Gnosis5

10-05-2008, 07:48 PM

A lot of horrible things have gone on before this time and this planet and he may be dramatizing unawares some past life events that he was involved in. I have seen it in my hubbie during his sessions. I think we are just recycling events until we handle our negative energies that we have amassed over lifetimes. Either through a psychotech path or a transmutational or devotional path.

SMELL THAT???, That call was pure terror.
That is his signature! Be careful here friends!
And what is with the WITHHOLDING locations.
I found myself wanting the exact locations right away.
Finally, he said some of them after Keri had to ask and pull it out of him.
If you know... you just state it.."Los Angeles is targeted!" "get out!"..... Right?
You don't dilly dally around and get the sniffles and tell us all the dispicable horror of people's flesh getting torn apart and stuff. Not to mention how gung ho he used to be and now he sounds like a broken man.
What happened between then and now?

Something has always smelled funny about him to me.
Far Extreme. Too Extreme! I do not fully believe what he says.
Remember They use some truth mixed with lies to convince.

Guess we will find out.
Economic failure we already knew about.
Let's see what happens shortly after that.
I doubt it's as bad as he is leading people to believe.
Not saying things are peachy by any means but he really struck
me as having been messed with. He didn't sound right to me.

I'll be waiting a bit to do further analysis.

Oh and I live in Los Angeles Area 30+ miles out.

Peace,
Ampgod

Gnosis5

10-05-2008, 07:52 PM

I agree with you. Spiritual food and water is more important than a Subway Sandwich :-) Although I do have a practical side and will store some food and water, but not so much for myself as for the others in my care who are still asleep.

I have always been ready to die. I feel the blessed assurance. Call it a gift if you will. I suggest we all pray for strength to pass through this transition. It is not harmful to die. We are all going to go through it sooner or later. The Hindu scripture says it is a weakness to "cling to life." After all, we cannot be here forever. However, on a larger plane, there is no death. 90% of you believe in a life after death. So why not act like it. The Bible says, "He who lacks faith let him pray for it." Prayer is greater than food, water, shelter or any thing else. And if none of this comes to pass, we are still better off, right? So it is a win-win situation.
This is just my little suggestion.

Rocky_Shorz

10-05-2008, 07:52 PM

He has been having very powerful visions and sees a final catalytic even that is pulling them together. People who are (spiritually) connected can see the light or images coming. One of these people’s job is to see that (visions) and translate it through the body... he is one of those people and refers to Miriam as another one.

He had tears and terror and images of people, colors gone, and bluish light, screaming in terror, a feeling of unleashing of these events happening on Tuesday, Oct 7th.

He says the images are pulling together and he is not exactly what it is but the economy is part of that process

He sees the blame being place on Al Quida and a nuclear event in NY. He knows that they have been doing operational war games. Back in 1987 he was traveling on I80 north of Chicago, at that moment he saw people walking, RVs, lots of people walking on the side of the Highway. He asked them what happened and they saw the destruction of the core of Chicago. The other (nuked) city was very, very flat... he saw 20 or 30 blocks vaporized, they looked up and could see their hands like an x-ray and many were blind.

The location that is the most probable is a very flat terrain, close to the coast, lots of freeways... warm climate, Los Angeles.

The bailout is not enough to stop the hemorrhage.

He believes the first event is financial, second nuclear and third pandemic.

LA first. Possibly Chicago and NY.

All of you know I saw the images of Chicago and San Francisco, along with a Flash by the UN in New York.

But the flat land he saw was Florida, the international banking center...

This is a direct attack on the financial international money locations.

While many have been focusing on what might be coming, I tried to make changes from the point I have contact.

I have been painting Dreams for Rothschild of the future he is creating....

The terrors, the death, the misery of Billions of people...

Then I painted a new reality, he has always thought his rein of power would continue when his life here ends, but I showed him a new reality...

The ground opened up and he fell into a pit of fire...

most people would think that a 16000 degree fire wouldn't hurt for long, but for a Spirit that lasts forever... it does...

I stood there above the lake while he begged to end his pain, I told him it doesn't need to end this way...

Stop the collapse, stop the destruction, NOW...

I told him to do what he has never considered before, use all of his money for the good of the world...

He woke up still thinking about the dream and felt a tightness in his chest...

I said a prayer for him before I disappeared...

If the world has ever needed to give someone their light, it is this man, who is on the brink of destroying us all...

my dreams are pretty good, I'm going to be ready to jump back into the market tomorrow, I don't think Black Tuesday is going to happen any longer...

with his 100T, all the problems in the banking system could disappear in hours...:wink2:

SteveTPA

10-05-2008, 07:55 PM

Hi, new to this thread so I hope I'm not repeating something already said. Chertoff was on Glenn Beck in summer or fall 2007. He said "it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when" a US city is hit by a nuclear weapon. That to me sounds like certainty. There was of course no media outrage. This guy is supposed to protect us, and all he can do is say with certainty that an American city will be hit with a nuclear weapon? I firmly believe our controllers tell us what their plans are and it's up to us to find the clues.

It's one thing to say it out loud; question is can they get away with it. I think there are many people at higher levels of government and the military who oppose these insanse morons and are trying to stop them. I don't see the Illuminati as all powerful. They do have enemies that can oppose them. I think the dvisions that are now behind the scenes will become public soon. We have to all think positive thoughts and not give in to fear mongering. They want us to be frightened little sheep.:yikes:

It's up to us to to prove our power over them, be positive, educate ourselves and others, and expose their lunacy. We mustn't behave out of fear as they demand we do. :original:

Gnosis5

10-05-2008, 08:01 PM

Good point about not resisting negative energies -- that makes them bind you in harder and harder and you become smaller and smaller.

I have not consciously or formally practiced transmutation but I did run across this weblink on the subject: http://iasos.com/metaphys/#PTaah

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Gnosis

It seems to me that the best thing we can all do is to STOP focusing on resisting, binding, or any act that is negative toward the illuminati...that's what they want. In the martial art of Aikido (sp?), you use the opponent's own energy against them meaning, we should all focus and meditate on reflecting all that they plan for us back on them! We should all visualize being powerful spiritual mirrors. Otherwise, if we focus our own intentions and fears on them, they will become only more powerful. Use their energy against them...

Here's what we all need to do in our meditations, in our prayers, and in every waking moment that we can muster...Let's all visualize that we are these radiant, large and powerful spiritual mirrors reflecting any intended evil back on those sending that evil forth. We all know our power. We all know why we chose to incarnate at this exact time...now let's get focused and do what we came here to to!!!

bill

10-05-2008, 08:03 PM

Gnosis5

10-05-2008, 08:07 PM

I sincerely thank you for doing this dream work for this individual. Please continue because I sense you can be a very powerful force for good change.

cheers!
Gnosis

All of you know I saw the images of Chicago and San Francisco, along with a Flash by the UN in New York.

But the flat land he saw was Florida, the international banking center...

This is a direct attack on the financial international money locations.

While many have been focusing on what might be coming, I tried to make changes from the point I have contact.

I have been painting Dreams for Rothschild of the future he is creating....

The terrors, the death, the misery of Billions of people...

Then I painted a new reality, he has always thought his rein of power would continue when his life here ends, but I showed him a new reality...

The ground opened up and he fell into a pit of fire...

most people would think that a 16000 degree fire wouldn't hurt for long, but for a Spirit that lasts forever... it does...

I stood there above the lake while he begged to end his pain, I told him it doesn't need to end this way...

Stop the collapse, stop the destruction, NOW...

I told him to do what he has never considered before, use all of his money for the good of the world...

He woke up still thinking about the dream and felt a tightness in his chest...

I said a prayer for him before I disappeared...

If the world has ever needed to give someone their light, it is this man, who is on the brink of destroying us all...

my dreams are pretty good, I'm going to be ready to jump back into the market tomorrow, I don't think Black Tuesday is going to happen any longer...

with his 100T, all the problems in the banking system could disappear in hours...:wink2:

Son of Eire

10-05-2008, 08:12 PM

Listening to Wilcock he comes off as a cocky overconfident self serving loon

he says ' I don't want to bad mouth Dr Deagle ' and then proceeds to bad mouth Dr Deagle with inuendo and rumor and gossip

Wilcock :thumbdown:

I have benn following Dr Deagle of and on for 8 or 10 years -- he is a very talented and loving man

the real deal

"not bill Ryan"

I aggree with you about David Wilcock I was disgusted with his nasty atempt discredit Dr.Deagle, this comming from a so called spiritual man.After hearing his outburst I declined to listen to the rest of his interview.

undetected

10-05-2008, 08:18 PM

Let's take a step back...

Nobody is actually saying there WILL be a nuclear attack or whatever. Just that there might be. Then again there might also be anything else. All "visions of future" are visions of POSSIBILITIES.

I believe Bill Deagle is a good guy and means well. I've seen/heard him speak before and I don't believe he's trying to fool anyone. Comments like "He's a pawn" are silly. Don't just throw it in like you know him. And I would back up Bill Ryan's words "He's reporting this as responsibly as he can." Sure you'll find info on the net that makes him look "bad". Deal with global politics, ETs, conspiracies, visions and stuff and all these accusations and other crap come with the territory.

My impression of this Bill's vision is this: He saw some things. He believes they might come. He also believes that we all can avoid it if we work on it together. He may not have much faith in humanity's ability to stop this [and it's hard to blame him, based on experience with sheeple] but he knows it is possible and hopes for it. The positive stuff is mainly at the end of the interview so be sure to listen to that part carefully.

He's not trying to frighten anyone. He clearly speaks against fear. But he feels it his task to tell what he saw, as a warning. If you see a possible danger coming, you warn others, it's natural. It's not fear mongering. I don't perceive his message as negative. If you do, maybe it's the fear in you?

As others have mentioned, he actually brings nothing new. We already know the Mighty Idiots have been planning economic collapse, wars and diseases for decades. Yeah, so they are planning it. Doesn't mean it all has to happen.

They have been successful in their game in the past. BUT! That was before we, you and I, came here, to this planet. We are here to shatter their plans and tear their game apart. And we will do it! Sure there will be some tough times and the economy is already on its way to the cemetery... but ask yourself - do we need THIS stupid kind of economy in OUR future? We definitely don't. Just like many other things that need to die for something new and better to be born.

Chaos may be coming, but on the other end of it, They will not emerge as our supreme masters. We will emerge free and stronger than ever before and They will be left facing the karmic consequences of their insanity. Their plans are already crumbling, one by one. They are the beast that's kicking in all directions when seeing its death coming. They will cause chaos and some deaths and panic among the general population but They won't cause panic among us and They won't have their way.

So stay calm, don't fall prey to fear and focus on the will to make it through whatever comes and on positive future. Trust that the corrupt powers will fall. They will. I also think we shouldn't focus on "their" particular events and dates so much. They love playing with numbers and symbolic days and events. They want the attention of our thoughts on them so let's not give it to them. Focus your thoughts on a future where They don't even get a chance to act. We're taking the Earth from their abusive hands. The Earth is for us to take care of, not for them to destroy.

They've been doing this for a long time and most of us just came recently. But as seen here on Avalon and around Camelot, our numbers are growing fast and so is our strength. In the end we are much powerful than Them. Is this the "Endtimes"? Yes. But it's Their End and Our Beginning!

Squeptikal

10-05-2008, 08:22 PM

Hello all,

I am new to the Avalon Forums but have been following the Project Camelot site for a couple of years now. This information recently seems to be resonating with friends who aren't privy to or have no interest in conspiracy theories, alternative media, etc..

This resonance seems strange and yet exhilarating! I offered to my ex-wife some information about keeping her eyes open, getting liquid, stoking food & water, and offering to loan her a handgun as I wasn't comfortable with her level of security at her house. Since she and I have been at odds at Family Court with my firearms ownership since we split up, I was surprised when she seemed ameable to taking my loan offer. She then started asking questions about what to expect on the 7th. A remarkable 180!

Anyway, I wanted to say hi to everyone. Also, I live near Pittsburgh, PA, USA and might want to network with some local folks. I've gotten a good start on building off-grid infrastructure here but still have a way to go before I'm ready for when the smelly stuff hits the fan.

Thunderbird

10-05-2008, 08:24 PM

check out my thread "what i just saw"

there wont be any nuclear...

we've already been vaccinated psychically for it...

they know we wont fall for it...

it'll be aborted or forced to abort before the operation can be carried out...

we all know that it takes a lot of energy to divert a stream when it has been and wants to continue running its course....

flip the script....

the stream has already been changed..and sustained enough to maintain its new trajectory....

the PTB have been cut off at each and every attempt they have tried..enough times that NOW THAT IS THE STREAM!!!!

get it??

let that sink in for a minute...

the NORM is now that they are being caught ahead of time...the russians did it at georgia, bama did it with hillary, pakistans bhutto averted major calamity there...

the stream is ours...

Gnosis5

10-05-2008, 08:45 PM

Welcome Drew. Thank you for your words and I agree with your assessment about fear. About the fear on this forum do you think that fear is an emotion that some of us might be rising up to?

For example, if one has been in insane glee or grief or apathy one might suddenly rise up to fear. The fear is part of an uprise of emotion, not a downward trend. When I go into session to look at something that happened 530 million years ago I feel a lot of negative emotions while I am looking at the shocking horrors that occurred for me and others during that time.

Best then to simply neutrally acknowledge the fear in oneself and in others and let the process continue, rather than resist it. Let the fearmongers be your friends, for when you no longer vibrate to their energies you will know that you have graduated above the fear band. Use them as a litmus test.

It is clear to yourself that people are dramatizing. What are they dramatizing? Certainly not simply what is happening now -- they've seen it all before and 1000 times worse and that is why they are afraid. They still have not faced what it was that made them afraid eons ago.

Why is it I am more interested than afraid? I think it is because I have taken the trouble to go and look closely at my worst nightmares and I have traced them to their sources. Once a personal dark energy is exposed it vanishes and no longer has power. And anyone can do what I'm doing, although I do give a lot of credit to my personal facilitator :-)

I agree with you that fear cannot see the truths very well so our little circle here must bring ourselves up through the band of fear into something like sane and effective action, but that has to happen in gradients and will happen at different rates for different people.

In hospital wards it is known that if a patient starts getting antagonistic that is a sign that he is getting better.

By looking more and more closely at what is really happening in the now we are processing the undercurrents of all the pasts that this now represents for us. It is slow and tedious and has been known to take thousands and thousands of years, which is why I constantly promote more aggressive therapies or breakaway paths.

I agree with you that we are probably as a group (a group in fear of body destruction and the "afterdeath") in no condition spiritually (at this time) to go and save the world. Some will disagree with me about that :-)

Hello, this is my first post. I'm new to Avalon.

I think there are some important things to say.

well. the thing is ANY fear reality is BS, total crap, illusion, won't hold in the new frequencies.

anyone subjegating themselves to fear stands to face instant collapse. the whole point of all this mess is to realize Love.. but also realize that fear reality will not make the shift.

fear reality is lower dimensional. when we move into higher dimension, there is NO fear reality.

the mathematics of the frequencies have to "balance out"

fear is a low vibrational wave -- unsupportable in higher frequency life. it's like trying to make matter in pure light ethereal environments. wn't happen. can't happen. physically impossible.

it's like trying to cram a truck into a glass jar. HAHAHAH.. yeah right.

we ain't livin' in 3d kansas no more Toto

most people still havn't realized that.

[snipped]

-- Drew

Cindy

10-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I just started listening to the information of Bill Deagle, and what I have read so far on this thread, couldn't a vision of a nuclear bomb be an image of a major change or shift. A bomb could represent an image of change and not necessarily mean a real bomb. My visions and dreams come to me as symbols. Maybe this vision is actually a collapse of the banks or economic system falling? Again, I could be wrong, but I would have to agree with David Wilcock. Yes, something is coming and I'm not sure what, but let us all focus a positive outcome and if this is a real posibility let us all send out a message for protection and help from the higher realms...

RaKaR

10-05-2008, 08:54 PM

Hello there,

Here are some European Financial News:
I do not know to which extent it could be connected to the possibility of some major european financial difficulties in the coming days, as described by Dr. Deagle, but the last news bulletin made mention of some important european banks being in deep trouble - like ABM Amro, in the Netherlands, which has been partially bought by the state; the belgian 'Fortis', still struggling for some bailout from the government and specially the biggest German savings Bank, the faith of which is yet to be decided.
The German Government and some influential people from the German financial world are still gathering( on this very hour; it is 11 am here!), in an attempt to find a solution before the opening of the European Stocks, monday.

Keep the Fine Vibes up!

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Book

10-05-2008, 08:57 PM

ChristinCP

10-05-2008, 08:59 PM

wes_whitewolf

10-05-2008, 09:15 PM

Here is something to consider...

There is a wide range of opinions circulating on this site ranging from obsessive fear mongering to light work and the call for calm and the need to feed positive thought.

Realize that all of these are opinions based on that persons ideology. If everyone has been following the interviews from the many folks at Project Camelot, you know that some people on here are only here to spread misinformation, defend the status quo or welcome in Armageddon so that they can have the self-fulfilled Revelations and thus will defend a self-appointed dooms day prophet.

The thing I am watching closely are the new folks on this site that have only posted on such fear-spreading threads. I wonder how many of these new folks are associated with the "dark" themselves and are here to only fuel the fires of fear? We already know who the religious zealots are on this site but beware of those with very few posts and spreading only fear rather than level-headed opinion based upon true contemplation of what this site was intended for.

Granted, I'm new myself but I am careful to watch what the longer-term members are saying and avoiding some of the many new members that have nothing but negative words...I am beginning to question who these people are and what their true agendas are.

Just my observations and opinion. I would never want to alienate any new-comers that carry hope and positive contributions to this forum. Would love to hear what some of the other long-term members to this site are thinking right now along these lines.

Love, Peace & Respect!:)

Kate

10-05-2008, 09:33 PM

I am reflecting over what Bill deagel/david wilcock are saying... there is much processing going on for me as an individual that i cant articulate at the moment...but i support alot of what wes whitewolf has just stated.
We all need to take stock, go within, trust our intuition and try to remain 'balanced' in our actions and reactions to daily situations and 'opinions' of everyone else.

thedarke

10-05-2008, 09:35 PM

David Wilcocks has just ****** me off...............who is this guy to shoot down this call. I just find it funny how this guy came up through the Intuits riding on the cotail of being a reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, and now that he is in the public's eye, he now denies this fact and tries to not mention that, but half of his videos refer to him and his resemblance to Edgar Cayce etc. This guy acts like a know it all and his word is golden. People do your research on this guy, Dr. Deagle actually confirms what most of the psychics, intuits etc. have been posting about as well as the guys from www.halfpasthuman.

ChristinCP

10-05-2008, 09:41 PM

nuxa

10-05-2008, 09:52 PM

Talking about the future and the exciting time ahead of us.

If there is a daily war on our Humanconcioness - then sure enough there must be a few desinformations-guys out there spreading fear and havoc in our minds also. If nothing significant happens this "rocktober" - does that mean Mr. Deagel is a desinformation-agent of some kind, one of many prehaps? Could be...

I`m sorry and excitet too to say Mr Deagel could also be the real deal. If so simply embrace yourself an do what ever you have to do. Be cool.

On a higher level
I think that energis spent on fear is a total waste of time. My soul is longing for change, any change good or bad is welcomed by me. I`m blessed with a secret in this life and i can wrap it up like this for you to hear:

That favorite place of yours before you where born is also your returning point after this life here on earth. Please enjoy this wonderful times, watch the plot play out and live to tell the story.. (and what a story)

" So long and thank`s for all the fish "

Morgan

10-05-2008, 10:03 PM

Ok, whoa.

I read 99% of all of this thread (I skimmed over some of the reeeaaaalllly long posts). Am I EVER glad I took yesterday off from Internet Land so I could skip the crazy panic of Deagle's prophecy and get the full picture today with not only Deagle's interview, but also Jernigan's, Wilcock's, and St Clair's insights too. Add to that the vast and interesting perspectives of every single person on this forum, some people obviously waiting for the end, others not quite sold.

It's been a trip, but I'm glad I got it all in one go rather than waiting for each piece to come in due time.

But I guess everyone who believes what Deagle's saying (literally, anyway) will be calling their Congressperson first thing Monday, huh? And no doubt getting everyone you know to do the same.

As for my personal view, believe what you want. Slag who you want. What I take away from the above interviews/intuitions is that yes, some bad things might be about to happen, but I'm not going to walk around paranoid/worried/afraid/etc. Even if there's zero chance of a positive attitude, meditation, etc. turning things around or at least lessening the extent of the damage, I'm still going to stay positive, meditate, etc. So if you like panic, for heaven's sake go ahead. Just don't take the rest of us down with you.

I will be waking up Tuesday morning and going about my day as scheduled. I will not be turning on the national AM news program to see what may have happened to cause the end of the world. If you go looking for trouble, sometimes you find it. (And I'm not being ignorant about it either, I've acknowledged the threats - I'm just not living my life by them or allowing them to set up camp in my brain.)

I aggree with you about David Wilcock I was disgusted with his nasty atempt discredit Dr.Deagle, this comming from a so called spiritual man.After hearing his outburst I declined to listen to the rest of his interview.

I didn't see it this way - I viewed it as David trying to make people aware that Deagle does not have a 'clean' record, no one does, which David even admits about himself and the fact that he's had stuff spread about him online later on in this interview.

One point I would like to contribute is in regards to Genetically Modified foods. I am a farmer with a University degree so I think I am qualified to say that the majority of crops grown today are NOT GM. It takes years to develop the genetics. It is not something that someone can do in a blink of an eye. All of the wheat, barley, navy beans, and peas we grow are from natural seed. We grow some GM corn which is sold to an ethanol plant.
We do not have to grow it though as there is still non-GMO seed available.

My point is for Dr Deagle to say they are going to feed everyone GM food is instilling unnecessary fear in my mind. Hope this helps.

I wish you were farming anywhere near me. I drive back roads sometimes between cities and I see so many farms with their signs posted regarding enegineered seed, etc. Nearly all corn everywhere I see this. I do, however, agree that GM food is not an immediate threat. What I read says it's mostly the canned/processed foods at this stage where it is most - and soy, corn, canola, tomatoes, and wheat? are the most GM'd foods at the moment.

Average Joe

10-05-2008, 10:09 PM

ya. he starts out with a vague prophesy, trying to sound shaken. he ends up with minute detail describing exactly how things will happen. hmmm. listen again. listen to the whole thing. don't get emotionally involved. just analyze.

Deagle is a fraud. I am sure of it.

If he told me it was raining.

And I was stood outside getting wet.

I would not believe him.

I'd like to repeat some of the points that I made on page 3 of this thread.....

Everything, EVERY single thing, he said in his "vision" phonecall has ALREADY been said by various OTHER people before him, on various forums, including this one. Apart from the LA nuke, and thats just his paranoia running away with him in his dream I think....even the bones in the hands showing up like an x-ray we've seen before on films like "Threads" and "The Day After Tomorrow", "Terminator 2" etc.

All of this vision is already out there, all of it. Some of it may come true, most of it probably won't. He's just collated it all from various sources as described above, went to sleep and dreamt about it all, then put it forward again as his own!

Heck its almost plagiarism!

Aside from the vision, and talking about Deagle himself.....watch his videos PLEASE.....anybody awake can see that he simply knows too much, has held too many important jobs, knows too many people from too many far ranging lettered agencies, and so on and so on....and on and on and on and on.....and on.

I don't think so.

undetected

10-05-2008, 10:34 PM

If he told me it was raining.
And I was stood outside getting wet.
I would not believe him.

Well if that doesn't make you pretty dumb, then I don't know...

Everything, EVERY single thing, he said in his "vision" phonecall has ALREADY been said by various OTHER people before him, on various forums, including this one.

Yeah, having the same visions and saying the same things as others makes you a liar, right?

anybody awake can see that he simply knows too much, has held too many important jobs, knows too many people from too many far ranging lettered agencies, and so on and so on....and on and on and on and on.....and on.

And on top of that knowing too much and too many people is a bad thing? Or a proof of being a fraud?

No offense, but whatever Deagle is saying, makes a lot more sense than your post.