Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist

[Theresa]

Ok....just piecing this stuff together. I am listening to D. Wilcock right now, just listened to Bill Deagles call from last night, and watched the new zeitgesit movie last night.

(btw, links at camelot to these not working...what's up??)

David is saying same stuff. He doesn't like Deagle. Hmm...

I have seen stuff SORT OF similar to Deagle's visions, AND Wilcocks.

My feeling is that it might not be AS severe as Deagles visions, but something for sure is going down.

Also, I'm posting an another thread a message about the Zeitgeist movie.

I agree with David about our "growth process". But something is going to happen.

anybody? what's your take?? Lets talk!

[alice goes nuts....]

havent listened to the david thing, but the bill conversation i heard, he was very busy about undrlining it all....i m not sure....but i feel i have my head over water again....

[Myra]

Ok....just piecing this stuff together. I am listening to D. Wilcock right now, just listened to Bill Deagles call from last night, and watched the new zeitgesit movie last night.

(btw, links at camelot to these not working...what's up??)

David is saying same stuff. He doesn't like Deagle. Hmm...

I have seen stuff SORT OF similar to Deagle's visions, AND Wilcocks.

My feeling is that it might not be AS severe as Deagles visions, but something for sure is going down.

Also, I'm posting an another thread a message about the Zeitgeist movie.

I agree with David about our "growth process". But something is going to happen.

anybody? what's your take?? Lets talk!

I'm curious what everyone else thinks too. I am in the middle of listening to Bill Deagle's phone call and it's got me worried. Somehow I hope he's wrong. :sad:

[Suriel]

David basically says that the ETs won't let any nukes go off. And he says that Deagle just had a bad vision and needed to back it up with evidence.
He also said that he is a public speaker and should have more responsibility on what message he is bringing due to Camelot's popularity.

Because it would spread unnecessary fear to the public.

He also thinks that the NWO is going down.

So it is the complete opposite approach to our future.

That is a main summary.

:thumb_yello:

[taoist rebel]

Bill Deagle strikes me as the kind of person who reads things and then internalizes them.

Like reading the side effects of a medication and suddenly getting the side effects.

Me thinks, Bill has been reading too much GLP, Webbot reports and Timewave zero info.

Nothing happens next week except maybe a minor stock market correction.

As an intuitive myself, Bill feels like he's looking for credibility but carries none of his own.

Bill says his in So Cal. Why isn't he getting the hell outta there? I would have packed up my stuff and family... and called from a cell phone or after I felt safe.

Deagle is a phoney.

[Debi5]

I have had Et contact for years now(actually I am told all my life but I don't remember) and I am being told & shown that it was my last chance to stock up, Bush will be bared (saw him running in undies & socks) and just rough seas for a while and then everything will be much better than my life now.
Things are going to get nasty, have seen troops, bombs, battleships.
Also have been told I may have to leave. I am unsure at this point where but am prepared as this info is Always accurate.so much so that my family takes it quite seriously. I do not believe any nukes will be fired, as my ET friends say they are already here and will step in.
I am to look at this as a great adventure, a prerequiste to a golden age
My watchers are tall blondes and I have always felt quite peaceful, safe & protected with them.

[SpaceMonkey]

Many people are having trouble believing in what bill deagle said, but what about george green? what about the radio show were some guy says he recieved an email from a UN friend saying he's leaving the uk in october? What about the information david icke got from a traffic warden about being informed of a coming war which will create civil unrest?

[jivatmanx]

I myself am biased regarding this topic as I have followed David Wilcock for several years now and love and respect him more than any other intuitive; his central message being much more positive and his information being so clear, backed up by research and data, for those who haven't read his three recent articles on DivineCosmos.com , please do so.

One of the reasons is that he is centrally grounded in some of the most excellent channeled material ever written: The Law of One.

One of his more central points as to why events will not transpire the way Bill Deagle has said, is that with a full financial collapse followed by a nuclear detonation, and total martial law, would constitute a wholesale shift of planetary consciousness to the negative.

The Law of One material speaks of a "Quarantine" by higher forces, which prevents interference of our planetary "free will" by forces from elsewhere. It opens randomly, and typically allows Positive, or service to other, forces in, because the planet is already slightly negative.

The point is to maintain somewhat of a balance between positive and negative, so that those on earth can choose one of the other. Bill Deagle's series of events would constitute too much of an infringement to be allowed.

[Realview]

It's just Karma, good or bad, whatever transpires is the exhaustion of imperfections. Souls will be and are placed to buffer negativity and the effects of "negative" karmas upon the earth. But, even a cool breeze stirs up the dust. Reasonable preparedness is a good thing. The Supreme Being is all merciful to the humble. The creation is not broken.

[SpaceMonkey]

I myself am biased regarding this topic as I have followed David Wilcock for several years now and love and respect him more than any other intuitive; his central message being much more positive and his information being so clear, backed up by research and data, for those who haven't read his three recent articles on DivineCosmos.com , please do so.

One of the reasons is that he is centrally grounded in some of the most excellent channeled material ever written: The Law of One.

One of his more central points as to why events will not transpire the way Bill Deagle has said, is that with a full financial collapse followed by a nuclear detonation, and total martial law, would constitute a wholesale shift of planetary consciousness to the negative.

The Law of One material speaks of a "Quarantine" by higher forces, which prevents interference of our planetary "free will" by forces from elsewhere. It opens randomly, and typically allows Positive, or service to other, forces in, because the planet is already slightly negative.

The point is to maintain somewhat of a balance between positive and negative, so that those on earth can choose one of the other. Bill Deagle's series of events would constitute too much of an infringement to be allowed.

the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.

[Truth voice 2012]

Many people are having trouble believing in what bill deagle said, but what about george green? what about the radio show were some guy says he recieved an email from a UN friend saying he's leaving the uk in october? What about the information david icke got from a traffic warden about being informed of a coming war which will create civil unrest?

Ive also been speaking with a guy that has friends in Florida who told him about four new FEMA camps they had spotted over there. Sumthin is definately afoot. :blink:

[jivatmanx]

the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.


WWII was lost by the Nazis, and they were unable to implement global slavery. Yes, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed but full nuclear war/anarchy never happened. Instead we entered several decades of unprecedented peace, prosperity, and freedom. Any nuclear detonation today would cause complete anarchy, because many countries possess weapons of mass destruction and our supply chain is so fragile.

Especially at this point in time, right before 2012, they won't allow a wholesale enslavement of humanity by the elites. They just won't, it's too much of an infringement on everyone's free will.

As to their view of us, all things are part of the creator and therefore they will maintain our chance to experience a choice-filled life on this earth and see an appropriate end to this age.

[SpaceMonkey]

we've been apart of global slavery for centuries, the democratic society is nothing but an illusion. Our spiritual potential has been supressed for a long long time.

[Gnosis5]

Whether he is right or wrong, I'm loving life and people and processing my own forgiveness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRqJUtqDrbM&feature=related
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRqJUtqDrbM&feature=related)

I'm curious what everyone else thinks too. I am in the middle of listening to Bill Deagle's phone call and it's got me worried. Somehow I hope he's wrong. :sad:

[recallone]

I watched the Zeitgeist Addendum, heard both interviews, sorting it all out - same as all of you. Something interesting to note are the military exercises being planned for Oct 6 through Oct 16. Wilcock mentioned them in his interview, I found the following link.
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31005
I started another thread about it - don't mean to muck things up by mixing topics, but this is all part of the puzzle. If you recall, similar exercises were being conducted on 9/11. It certainly makes you think.
Too many things all pointing in the same direction to just dismiss them as fear mongering. If someone shouts "Fire!" - and there is a fire - is that person an alarmist? Or someone who values human life, same as you?

[pilot]

My feeling is that Dr Bill's message was over-the-top, that is, it didn't ring true to me, but the build up of tensions that seem to be going around, I do feel and experience those occasionally.

Zeitgeist Addendum was good.

I will roll on up to the store for extra provisions in a day or two.

Pray for Peace everybody.

[Tuza]

I am still feeling calm, but let's face it, consider how many people are awake to what is going on around them, just go outside and have a real look at people. I feel something is going to happen if only to wake up people big time, part of that will be the financial melt down, that should get their attention for sure, as far as the nukes go, I still feel the ETs as David said will take care of that. In any case the warriors here need to direct our light to fix this. I ask my soul before I go to sleep to go out communicate with other souls and get things done. What do you think Theresa?

[Debi5]

The Et's are not here to save us, they are here to help us save ourselves.

[Truth voice 2012]

I Found This on a forum. Thought it was interesting.

"The latest alert from Half Past Human's predictive linguistics is
pointing towards a major catastrophic event or combination of events around the "hot date" of October 7, 2008:

George Ure says:

"As you know, my worst-case fear about events to come lines up on the notion that says something like "Markets fall apart so much going into October 7th (or so) that we have people starting to awaken in huge numbers to the idea that a long wave cyclical economic depression is unfolding - and that in turn is such a threat to the modern world that event a terrorist attack (false flag or otherwise) is "necessary" to prevent a sudden cascading of runs of banks."

Ostensibly picking up the chatter on radical Islamic blogs, a supposed deep undercover intelligence operative codenamed "Archangel", reports that Islamic terrorists have posted on the Internet certain "Commandments Before The Strike", that are alleged instructions for actions that Muslims are to take regarding an imminent large-scale attack - hints at nuclear - on the United States, specifically New York and Washington DC, slated to take place on October 7, 2008.

Most U. S. intelligence officials dismissed Zarqawi's letter as wishful thinking until Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's second in command, appeared on al-Jazeera, the official television network of Saudi Arabia, to deliver a message to the American people.

In the message, which was broadcast Aug. 8, al-Zawahiri said: "What you have seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of the blackouts by your media, are only the losses of the initial clashes. ... You will soon experience horrors that will make you forget the horrors you have encountered in Vietnam."

The al-Qaida chieftain went on to say: "Jihadist forces have been established in all of Western Europe to defend the powerless within the nation. For the crimes that the Crusaders have committed against the Muslims will be reaped by Christians and Jews throughout the Western world."

Zawahiri's video messages are viewed by intelligence officials as telling signs that a terrorist attack is imminent. His televised message Sept. 6, 2004, took place before the December 6, 2004, bombing of the U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, while his message of June 17, 2005, preceded the London bombings.

Concerns about an October attack were heightened even more by reports that the radical Islamic community viewed the ravages of hurricanes Katrina and Rita as signs that Allah was pleased with the plans for "the American Hiroshima."

I dunno what to believe and found wilcocks response puzzling. There is so much other stuff going on outside what the web bot says too. Build up of camps, military police exercises, Stocks teetering over the edge. It looks like a controled demolition of society. The gold market being sucked up by whoever. It certainly doesnt look like the politicians are worried at all on UK media. I dont agree with Wilcock when he says the banks are crumbling. They are merely reajusting for the "New World Financial Order" as PM Gordon Browne stated. Im questioning this new evolution religion too. Im into self responsability and everything but I keep gettin the flashes in the back of my head "Remeber they will interduce a new world religion to accompany the world order". And hearing such things as "We probably wont even feel it when we evolve". I think Id notice if I suddenly shrunk into a 4 foot gray ET. Isnt that what were supposed to look like in the Future?

I appretiate Im only saying this from my own perspective on reality and many of you here have had experiences of your own to conform whats real in your belief systems but Im just confused and baffled beyond belief at this stage. I dunno what to belive. Anyone feel the same?

[Reveling John]

I was actually drawn to this thread because of the reference to Zeitgeist Addendum, which I just completed about 10 min ago. Amazing work. Anyone want to talk about that, particularly the instructions delivered at the end?

[Gareth]

Bill may very well be receiving information...but it could be from a negative entity and giving him false information.

[Racsouran]

we can only speculate about the probable outcomes.....

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

As long as humanity gets rid of victim consciousness, and stay centered, there is nothing to fear.

[rustanddust]

to be honest I was somewhat disappointed in the new zeitgeist movie, it just seemed like a 2 hour long ad for this Venus Project thing.

the instructions and the project make a lot of sense and everything but still suspicious......

[clarkkent]

I Found This on a forum. Thought it was interesting.

"The latest alert from Half Past Human's predictive linguistics is
pointing towards a major catastrophic event or combination of events around the "hot date" of October 7, 2008:
"What you have seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of the blackouts by your media, are only the losses of the initial clashes. ... You will soon experience horrors that will make you forget the horrors you have encountered in Vietnam."

The al-Qaida chieftain went on to say: "Jihadist forces have been established in all of Western Europe to defend the powerless within the nation. For the crimes that the Crusaders have committed against the Muslims will be reaped by Christians and Jews throughout the Western world."


if your at this forum im surprised you believe terrorists have anything to do with whats going on, they are a scapegoat, and if your hearing anything regarding a "jihad" its because the government wants to put it out before (another) false flag.

personally i have a hard time believing the government would have another terrorist attack, it would seem so obvious even to joe six pack that its too much of a coincidence.

[ADAM KADMON]

I think Bill was right on. A little vague with his time-frame, but I highly doubt the man is lying about his visions just to get attention; or spread fear.

Remember, how you interpret his message is what matters. If you think he is just spreading fear by telling people his visions, than you are just a sheep following what the "anti-fear" crowd is saying. The truth is, for people in L.A. his message could have been a God Sent blessing that will save them and their families life. And when he said the stock market would fall 10% in one day, if you would have sold before that day, as a matter of fact, not fear -- you may have saved your retirement.

Personally, what he has taught me is to listen to my intuition and work on interpreting it. And quite frankly, living in L.A. is unintelligent if preservation of your life is one of your top priorities. The quality of air and water alone, not to mention being in a Red Zone for earthquakes is enough to make any smart person get out of the city.

It's easy to just classify him as spreading fear and do nothing. I however found it very empowering. My whole life it feels like I've been "waiting for something" ~ and I know the waiting is almost over on an intuitive level.

Look inside for guidance, and outside for verification and confirmation. Bill has the nerve to say the 'unthinkable' and put into words what some of us are feeling, but just couldn't qualify with words. Kudos Bill.

Adam K.

[rogers2710]

I heard Bill and David I think bill needs to calm down . David was right dreams have many symbolic meanings.You can't go around spreading gloom and doom. WE might just have a minnie war of the wrolds.Or like what happened in 1940.Where people killed theresleves over there money .Dreams mean many diffrent things .Its mostly what is going on in your life. Everybody 's a prophet.:insane:

[feeler]

if your at this forum im surprised you believe terrorists have anything to do with whats going on, they are a scapegoat, and if your hearing anything regarding a "jihad" its because the government wants to put it out before (another) false flag.

personally i have a hard time believing the government would have another terrorist attack, it would seem so obvious even to joe six pack that its too much of a coincidence.


Exactly. The 19 hijackers did not have box cutters (or the hijacked planes) that could pulverize 110 floors of concrete. They would need DEW, scalar weapons, particle beam, back-engineered alien technology, etc. instead.

Watch Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture part 11 on YouTube and at 1:30, he predicted (back in 1996) that:

New York City will be "in ash", sacrificed by 2000. The power that be already made the decision. "An offering." "Man-made." "An act of terrorism will turn it to ash."

*Here's the link:
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cm...=117&Itemid=51

Start at 1:41 in the video.


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/images/911demolit.jpghttp://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/gzd_050.jpg

[2infinityandbeyond]

if your at this forum im surprised you believe terrorists have anything to do with whats going on, they are a scapegoat, and if your hearing anything regarding a "jihad" its because the government wants to put it out before (another) false flag.

personally i have a hard time believing the government would have another terrorist attack, it would seem so obvious even to joe six pack that its too much of a coincidence.

Right now as it stands. These guys have got a bone to pick with the United States and Great Britain.

Be under no illusion. They know exactly what is going on in the western world, they in fact know much more then the average citizen here. They know the governments here are running amok and are fully aware that we are not fully to blame, although they do hold us responsible for our greed our arrogance and our self imposed ignorance.

Although we all know they were not responsible for 9/11 this incident and its concequences have forced them to take action. 9/11 has created these 'freedom fighters' I will not call them terrorists. They are only doing what you and me would do if we had to watch as our cities were blown to bits along with our woman and children.

Iraqi message to the American people. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu_Tl0isTaw)

These guys were not the terrorists before. But now they will retaliate.

[Morgan]

the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.

#1 - Maybe the ET's didn't think us dumbass humans were so dumbass as to actually use nukes. Twice. So they weren't paying as close attention then. (Talking out my **** here.)
#2 - Maybe the ET's aren't protecting us because it is my understanding that countries are always testing their nuke weapon technology. I seem to recall something on webpal.org/ki4u.com (forget which but basically the same) about some Chinese nuke test having a fallout cloud spread around the Northern hemisphere back in the '60s/'70s? Can't remember.
#3 - I wish the ET's were there protecting us from nukes, I really, really do.


I Found This on a forum. Thought it was interesting.

"Ostensibly picking up the chatter on radical Islamic blogs, a supposed deep undercover intelligence operative codenamed "Archangel", reports that Islamic terrorists have posted on the Internet certain "Commandments Before The Strike", that are alleged instructions for actions that Muslims are to take regarding an imminent large-scale attack - hints at nuclear - on the United States, specifically New York and Washington DC, slated to take place on October 7, 2008.

Most U. S. intelligence officials dismissed Zarqawi's letter as wishful thinking until Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's second in command, appeared on al-Jazeera, the official television network of Saudi Arabia, to deliver a message to the American people.

In the message, which was broadcast Aug. 8, al-Zawahiri said: "What you have seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of the blackouts by your media, are only the losses of the initial clashes. ... You will soon experience horrors that will make you forget the horrors you have encountered in Vietnam."

The al-Qaida chieftain went on to say: "Jihadist forces have been established in all of Western Europe to defend the powerless within the nation. For the crimes that the Crusaders have committed against the Muslims will be reaped by Christians and Jews throughout the Western world."

Zawahiri's video messages are viewed by intelligence officials as telling signs that a terrorist attack is imminent. His televised message Sept. 6, 2004, took place before the December 6, 2004, bombing of the U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, while his message of June 17, 2005, preceded the London bombings."

Assuming, for a moment, this is true, damn someone needs to tell the terrorists about the NWO/Illuminati. It's not us! It's the crazy controllers! We would love to see them taken down too! Somehow though I am sure I am forgetting a detail about how they are funded by NWO types or in cahoots with them or something.

*sigh*

[pilot]

Assuming, for a moment, this is true, damn someone needs to tell the terrorists about the NWO/Illuminati. It's not us! It's the crazy controllers! We would love to see them taken down too! Somehow though I am sure I am forgetting a detail about how they are funded by NWO types or in cahoots with them or something.

*sigh*[/QUOTE]

Yeh, that was that documentary "The Power of Nightmares" it's good-the whole conflict is inflamed and engineered by the puppetmasters. Any time I hear "Al Queda" or the "terrist" I immediately think ah, some propaganda for the trembling herd.
Good to watch for the clues of the narrative they are pushing on us.

[SteveSega]

I haven't been able to listen to the BIll Deagle call (it won't play for some reason), but I got the gist of it from what people are posting. Someone said that the ET's won't let it happen, but they let how many wars in history happen before? A ton, why would we suddenly expect them to take care of this? We shouldn't.

Don't forget that the US Air Force "misplaced" nuclear weapons in North Dakota last year, and they still have not been recovered. They are loose somewhere in the US.

Oct 7th is scheduled by web bot to have an earthquake in Vancouver/Seattle area. My friend that lives there says that there is also an over due volcano there that is usually snow capped. Lately the snow has been melting, even now that it is getting colder out. My wife and I were recently in the area and drove over the I-90 bridge to that island (I can't think of the name), but we both had a bad feeling about it. She recalled having a dejavu about that exact bridge collapsing. I believe that will be the main area affected on Oct 7th.

As far as the LA area is concerned, I believe it will someday be destroyed, but I do not think it will be Oct 7th. It will happen somethime in the future, but I am not sure exactly when just yet.

[Smacker]

I've heard the Deagle phone call and listening to Wilcox now. I've read the transcripts and posts about David Icke, Half Past Human, George Green etc

I'm taking all these as perspectives and it's clear that things are happening, but I'm not freaking out. I figure allowing fear and panic to control me won't help one bit, not for planning nor for keeping positive.

That being said, I'm not blind at events unfolding. I'm going to buy silver coins tomorrow since it can't hurt, silver will go up and it's better to invest it than sit in my bank account, waiting to be frozen if things go bad. Gonna take out extra money and buy some extra food.

I'm not going crazy and running for the hills, but being smart and having a plan gives me piece of mind.

Stay positive, don't panic but be smart about it. :bleh:

[AussieG]

They nuked the twin towers. Where were the ETs then

[UsAndThem]

The new zeitgeist movie was excellent, and really drills it home. Perkins, i have read his books, a bit of a herbert, but none the less has inside knowledge, but i still feel he misses the big point and likes to say Economic Hit man a lot! But everyone has something to say. I like the project venus concept, and Jacque Fresco nails it and so does Bill Hicks!!

I'm not into all of these prophecies and dates, its all really misleading, and puts more fear into people, don't hang your hopes and thoughts on all this negativity, and talk from these people (Wilcock, Beagle, Fulford etc). Make the judgments for yourself and do your own research. All of these people have something to say, which is great, but sometimes i think they do like to listen to themselves also. I believe things will happen, i mean its all taking place now, and changes every hour. The world is in fast forward mode. We are only on the tip of the ice berg...........watch zeitgeist addendum.

[UsAndThem]

Smacker agreed! No need to be crazy, just be aware, and ready in the mind!

[doodah]

Why does anyone pay any attention to the web bots? He didn't say Oct. 7 earthquake in Seattle. That's for November or December. You really shouldn't give that guy any credance. His bots will read all the responses here, and all this confusion will become part of his next report. So what does that prove? Just that Bill and Kerry contributed to the confusion by posting that Deagle vision, which is just his personal vision, filtered through his personal filters.

This is for the bots: I had a dream in which I was part of a Team of 35 or 40 people. We were under the direction of a coach. As we disbanded he called after us, "Remember, you are glowing balls of golden light." And I looked and saw that indeed we are. :original:

[WineHippie]

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[Truth voice 2012]

if your at this forum im surprised you believe terrorists have anything to do with whats going on, they are a scapegoat, and if your hearing anything regarding a "jihad" its because the government wants to put it out before (another) false flag.

personally i have a hard time believing the government would have another terrorist attack, it would seem so obvious even to joe six pack that its too much of a coincidence.

Try not to patronise me too much ego. Im fully aware that the only terrorists on 9/11 were the NWO gang. This thread I found mentions Nukes. Its irrelivant who delivers em. All Im emulating is it might back up to some extent what Bill is saying.

Its possible Davids spirit guide or whoever the bugger hes talking to up there could be an imposter decieving him in some way. Remember when you dont walk the right path you get, whats the term? "negative greetings" or whatever the new age jargon is. David just seemed very tense the other night. Very snappy at times. I reminded me of that story he told himself about the psykic on the tour bus who was very rude to other people travelling with her and she kept getting negative greetings because she was living double standards and not by her own rules.

Im not havin a go at Dave or anything. Respect the guy immensly. That video in the hilton he done gone nearly dun blew my brain out the top of me noggin!
Im just baffled at the mo. It really feels like theres sumthin comin but who knows such things other than the NWO gang.

[THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR]

Ok....just piecing this stuff together. I am listening to D. Wilcock right now, just listened to Bill Deagles call from last night, and watched the new zeitgesit movie last night.

(btw, links at camelot to these not working...what's up??)

David is saying same stuff. He doesn't like Deagle. Hmm...

I have seen stuff SORT OF similar to Deagle's visions, AND Wilcocks.

My feeling is that it might not be AS severe as Deagles visions, but something for sure is going down.

Also, I'm posting an another thread a message about the Zeitgeist movie.

I agree with David about our "growth process". But something is going to happen.

anybody? what's your take?? Lets talk!

Hi to Theresa and All here,

I could say loads but will keep it to the essentials:

I have my own form of guidance and about a week before this call from Dr Deagle was posted I was told 'there will be a Major Earth Event...before the end of 2008'!

Big Love - One Love - One World - One People

Word Up - PEACE OUT:yikes:

[BlueStone]

Despite what can happen in the near future... one thing I really feel: SOMETHING HUGE WILL REALLY HAPPEN! When? Neither the angels know, but for certain the devils of this world know!

[Genevieve]

Yep

The big question is are we ALL as individuals ready to give it all up for the sake of HUMANITY surviving??


Big ask i know ... but how many of us would do it??

I'm a Mum of two young boys so the question is easy for me - that old maternal instinct is running true and strong still !! lol

BUT isnt all this talk of buying silver and gold and ready cash STILL keeping one foot in the very door you are trying to close???

Dont get me wrong - i want to survive - but at what cost???

So i can be the next pinnacle on the heap of human struggle because i own more silver/gold than the bloke at the bottom of the heap?

Prepare yes - but try to see it as a way to be richer than the guy next door and i'm sure you will find it harder to get thru that door than the camel thru the eye of a needle!!!

Just my inuition!!

[ogrady]

Glad to read so many informed responses on this forum.

Yesterday I listened (against my better judgement) to Deagle's phone call. As happened after I watched one of his two-hour video lectures, I went into temporary panic mode. (Note to self - don't listen to Dr. Deagle!) Am in the process of listening to David Wilcock - I feel better now.

While the reigning powers are certainly getting ready for martial law (troops back from Iraq for 'crowd control', FEMA camps, etc. - even Robt. Kennedy, Jr. said martial law was imminent on his Ring of Fire radio broadcast) I'm doubting that this will be successful. I think a sufficient number of the sheeple are awake. Their worst plans are too extreme, for the moment.

Still, I'm on my way to the store to stock up on water and food.

[Theresa]

HI all~

So glad we are all talking here! I keep coming to this forum as it represents to me a voice in the wilderness....

I realize that ultimately we each have to follow our own internal guidance, but we have to have ACCESS to it in order to Hear it!

After weighing all this stuff, I was guided to meditate several times a day in a LISTENING mode. I was told that listening is a state of RECEPTIVITY. When we are in a RECEIVING way of being, we can receive guidance. and regardless of how much money or resources one may have, they only last so long. GUIDANCE is the only thing we can really count on.

Something most definitely is going to happen in a big way, like change of paradigm way, like life on Earth as we've known it is gone forever. Can't come a minute too soon for me, however, the changeover is going to be rocky to say the least.

I keep being directed back to the movie Celestine Prophecy. I keep seeing the images of people elevating their consciousness and vibrating right out of the dimension of violence and separation all around them. I keep being told that MEDITATION, consistent meditation, is the key to elevating our vibration to basically "rise above the fray" and receive guidance where to go and how to get there.

I was told "a community is being prepared for you..." then I heard "foothills". No other info yet. Then I heard to just keep meditating and LISTENING. Makes sense.

I was also told that those of us who have come here preparing for this event (starseeds) are being activated to GO within and receive this download info. I am going to rent that movie (Celestine Prophecy) and watch it again. I think there is a very powerful message in that film about this.

~LOVE LOVE LOVE~WE ARE ONE~

[SagittasA]

[QUOTE=Theresa;40882]HI all~

So glad we are all talking here! I keep coming to this forum as it represents to me a voice in the wilderness....

______________________________________

Bill Deagle, on waking up last Sunday with that horrible vision, was awakening to a call from within himself about the state of his own soul, suddenly spit up in his mouth with blood.

The vision is a wake-up call coming from within himself and is personal, as much as it has collective meaning. The Apocalyptic tone is real because there are vasts tracts of internal garbage in Deagle himself, that haven't been cleaned up: they can rise in the consciousness of someone reaching the critical point of waking up, like the horrific painting of the soul of Dorian Grey. The personal and collective appear simultaneously, archetypally, as everyone has to walk through the elements, the test, to see if they come out on the other side alive. It is the same journey mystics, artists, yogis and contemplators tread on the way of internal cleansing. It is an existential and spiritual walk.

And that is going down alongside of all this vast parade (seen and unseen) of politicians, bankers, financiers, corrupt "elite", blood brotherhoods, ets, channellers and psychics. Don't let that, for a moment, deflect you from keeping your eye on the real situation: where you internally are at.

Because most people ignore the real work, it is now suddenly thrust into awareness, permeating every level, as it has to, anyway. Each day the momentum has been building and the critical point is emerging.

As it emerges, the avalanche grows in momentum and weight behind it, forcing exposure, from deeper levels. Gravity is behind this thrust and it is pushing the world not just to the feared cataclysm and bankrupted psyche, but to true transformation. Now is the time to face this.
That is the real meaning of October 7th!

No longer the time to hide one's head under the metaphorical bush [pun intended], the plasma screen, or junked-out chemistry. Now is the time to face the music.
The ego is going down and reality is rising.

Remember you were born in this era to experience and learn something from this. To remember, the consensual hallucination must explode and fade, if you are to emerge, down the track, 2009-2012, whole.

Dr Deagle needs help of someone/s who know what to do next. Is he getting that assistance now? He needs careful handling, and by whom?
Much room still for errors of judgement and mishandling.

[kopenhagen]

I start to doubt about Deagle 's visiion, I remember watching his video from Grenada Forum in 2007, he said be prepared with your Graves in 2008, so what ?
what graves and what happenned?

[Bluenoser 63]

Trying to get info to ground crew about massive War game exercise being carried out in Scotland using LIVE AMMO. * nations and UK military on exercise from 06 Oct to 16 Oct 2008

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/09/28/world-war-iii-91466-21914726/

VERY IMPORTANT may tie into UN worker from UK saying he can not return to britain for thirty days mentioned on the news section of this web site.
Help me inform the ground crew please.

Mike.

[MMe M]

Many people are having trouble believing in what bill deagle said, but what about george green? what about the radio show were some guy says he recieved an email from a UN friend saying he's leaving the uk in october? What about the information david icke got from a traffic warden about being informed of a coming war which will create civil unrest?

No discredit to the man but he sells real estate for flips sake. Thats nearly as bad as a car salesman. jeez! no offense to anyone here but to be succsessful at either profession you have to be an unfeeling parasite!

personally, bill deagle doesnt hold true for me. He believes himself but I dont.

[MMe M]

They nuked the twin towers. Where were the ETs then

Excellant point. I was thinking the same. So many have said, they will not rescue you, you must help yourselves.

[Kelle Baley]

I agree with David about our "growth process". But something is going to happen.

anybody? what's your take?? Lets talk![/QUOTE]

i also have a thread posted under 'unconfirmed reports' that is a direct result of what happened to me yesterday the seventh in the morning. For reasons which are as unexplainable as Miriam Delacado 's, i was brought into a vision experiential to assist with the pressure build on the collective. It has been really building heavy lately. INside this moment i saw the balance of power shift radically. This is initiated by future humans that appear alien attempting to change the timeline events for higher outcomes.

i am fully with David on this one. The light is such high frequency that most of the plans to further yoke for enslavement and nefarious ends is breaking down. It is not going to really last. Ask for higher benevolent beings that are the brotherhood of light to assist if you like. Viewpoints change easily this way. you get the inner testing to see if your psyche can handle seeing the truth but it comes and you can.

I am only a messenger and do not worry over how it unfolds, there are those that are put into place with gifts to oversee this with skill and inner sight. It is being handled by the ground crew woven within the fabric of all peoples. peace.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=43567#post43567

[JoinTheFun]

What do YOU want to experience ?

[Ashatav]

They nuked the twin towers. Where were the ETs then

And I have to add that they started the first and second world war, the inquisition (who runs to this day, even in the same building), the cleansing of ortodoxes in russia, the deaths of the mao's regimen, the american and jew holocausts (holocaust means sacrifice to gods you know that?), etc etc etc.

Nop, no aliens killing bad guys.

Anti-cheers! :trumpet:[

[White Bird]

Events such as Bill's phone call remind us that while his intent was perhaps good and to warn people, so far nothing has happened. Most important is the fact we are all accerlating in our growth and with that comes more development in our intuitive selves.
Personally, as I listened the fear rose on me, but after listening more, I felt like he was making it up as he went along, therefore letting go, and letting "God" -or those spirit guides we all have to guide me.
Before this, I hadn't heard of this fellow, but Bill..take a pill. IMHO!!

[Gnosis5]

[QUOTE=Theresa;40882]HI all~

So glad we are all talking here! I keep coming to this forum as it represents to me a voice in the wilderness....

______________________________________

Bill Deagle, on waking up last Sunday with that horrible vision, was awakening to a call from within himself about the state of his own soul, suddenly spit up in his mouth with blood.

The vision is a wake-up call coming from within himself and is personal, as much as it has collective meaning. The Apocalyptic tone is real because there are vasts tracts of internal garbage in Deagle himself, that haven't been cleaned up: they can rise in the consciousness of someone reaching the critical point of waking up, like the horrific painting of the soul of Dorian Grey. The personal and collective appear simultaneously, archetypally, as everyone has to walk through the elements, the test, to see if they come out on the other side alive. It is the same journey mystics, artists, yogis and contemplators tread on the way of internal cleansing. It is an existential and spiritual walk.

And that is going down alongside of all this vast parade (seen and unseen) of politicians, bankers, financiers, corrupt "elite", blood brotherhoods, ets, channellers and psychics. Don't let that, for a moment, deflect you from keeping your eye on the real situation: where you internally are at.

Because most people ignore the real work, it is now suddenly thrust into awareness, permeating every level, as it has to, anyway. Each day the momentum has been building and the critical point is emerging.

As it emerges, the avalanche grows in momentum and weight behind it, forcing exposure, from deeper levels. Gravity is behind this thrust and it is pushing the world not just to the feared cataclysm and bankrupted psyche, but to true transformation. Now is the time to face this.
That is the real meaning of October 7th!

No longer the time to hide one's head under the metaphorical bush [pun intended], the plasma screen, or junked-out chemistry. Now is the time to face the music.
The ego is going down and reality is rising.

Remember you were born in this era to experience and learn something from this. To remember, the consensual hallucination must explode and fade, if you are to emerge, down the track, 2009-2012, whole.

Dr Deagle needs help of someone/s who know what to do next. Is he getting that assistance now? He needs careful handling, and by whom?
Much room still for errors of judgement and mishandling.


I basically agree and would have said just about the same thing -- using different terminology.

[Gnosis5]

I think the best guide and spirit to listen to is one's higher self, although I do think Bashar is a riot :-)

I agree with you about meditation, and if one wishes to be more agressive it is good to research some of the up and coming psychotechnologies that help one to discreate faster than meditation does the negative energies that we all clutch to. For example, there is PEAT, Mace Method, R3X, and several other variations and hybrids. Oh, I forgot -- EFT too. For example, if Deagle had been doing his internal spiritual work he would have been much much calmer in the interview.

Hope that contributes :-)

love,
Gnosis


HI all~

So glad we are all talking here! I keep coming to this forum as it represents to me a voice in the wilderness....

I realize that ultimately we each have to follow our own internal guidance, but we have to have ACCESS to it in order to Hear it!

After weighing all this stuff, I was guided to meditate several times a day in a LISTENING mode. I was told that listening is a state of RECEPTIVITY. When we are in a RECEIVING way of being, we can receive guidance. and regardless of how much money or resources one may have, they only last so long. GUIDANCE is the only thing we can really count on.

Something most definitely is going to happen in a big way, like change of paradigm way, like life on Earth as we've known it is gone forever. Can't come a minute too soon for me, however, the changeover is going to be rocky to say the least.

I keep being directed back to the movie Celestine Prophecy. I keep seeing the images of people elevating their consciousness and vibrating right out of the dimension of violence and separation all around them. I keep being told that MEDITATION, consistent meditation, is the key to elevating our vibration to basically "rise above the fray" and receive guidance where to go and how to get there.

I was told "a community is being prepared for you..." then I heard "foothills". No other info yet. Then I heard to just keep meditating and LISTENING. Makes sense.

I was also told that those of us who have come here preparing for this event (starseeds) are being activated to GO within and receive this download info. I am going to rent that movie (Celestine Prophecy) and watch it again. I think there is a very powerful message in that film about this.

~LOVE LOVE LOVE~WE ARE ONE~

[Richard T]

Yep

The big question is are we ALL as individuals ready to give it all up for the sake of HUMANITY surviving??


Big ask i know ... but how many of us would do it??

I'm a Mum of two young boys so the question is easy for me - that old maternal instinct is running true and strong still !! lol

BUT isnt all this talk of buying silver and gold and ready cash STILL keeping one foot in the very door you are trying to close???

Dont get me wrong - i want to survive - but at what cost???

So i can be the next pinnacle on the heap of human struggle because i own more silver/gold than the bloke at the bottom of the heap?

Prepare yes - but try to see it as a way to be richer than the guy next door and i'm sure you will find it harder to get thru that door than the camel thru the eye of a needle!!!

Just my inuition!!

Everything is in this question. It explains everything. But the question is a personal one, it cannot be a group question. This means that when asking what price is one ready to pay, it includes the loss of his belonging to the race.

It is a reassuring concept to hope that all could together be pulled from their misery. The hope that there is something better over the hill. And, of course, if all are in the same basket, it is either all who 'ascend' or all who fail. This would have for consequence that the price a single person pays would afford mass passage to what he earned. I certainly do not believe this.

The sense of belonging to the race, to a group, to a country, a flag, a planet, a religion, to whatever, only stems from the psychological condition that must be left behind. The psychological condition by which the individual lacks a real identity, an identity that is perfectly secure in and by itself. This is why people are not free, since their freedom is dependent on the group to which they are tied. So, the concession is to adopt thoughts that are socially acceptable. The ego is incredibly insecure but he still can have inner strength. And this strength is realized only where there are no choices. If the ego is presented with choices, he will always avoid, he will always try to postpone what Must be done and do what he feels like doing. He calls that free-will, when in reality he is obligated to act this way because of his fear of change, because deep within he is afraid of himself, of what he could do, or say, and their consequences. So, he seeks consolation in thinking that everybody is in the same basket and that if there is a change, everybody changes.

So, I totally agree, your post there is the only real question, but taken at the next level, meaning is the individual ready to give it all up to become. It is no particular person's task to save humanity, humanity has the responsibility of itself and cannot hand that responsibility over, regardless of what it spiritually wishes. This is the karmic law, and that law binds consciousness to that of humanity, using humanity's unconscious patterns to allow progression of the group at the expense of the individual.

[Gnosis5]

I've heard the Deagle phone call and listening to Wilcox now. I've read the transcripts and posts about David Icke, Half Past Human, George Green etc

I'm taking all these as perspectives and it's clear that things are happening, but I'm not freaking out. I figure allowing fear and panic to control me won't help one bit, not for planning nor for keeping positive.

That being said, I'm not blind at events unfolding. I'm going to buy silver coins tomorrow since it can't hurt, silver will go up and it's better to invest it than sit in my bank account, waiting to be frozen if things go bad. Gonna take out extra money and buy some extra food.

I'm not going crazy and running for the hills, but being smart and having a plan gives me peace of mind.

Stay positive, don't panic but be smart about it. :bleh:

Regarding Half Past Human data, it just came to me that he is mining the unconscious group mind, perhaps governed by a not-so-sane morphogentic field and its ruling entities [see Rupert Sheldrake]. Lies persist, truth only leads to higher truths, so does not persist for long. He is mining for the persisting lies (all persisting "truths" contain a lie or lies to make them persist).

I would suggest he look at what does not persist, but I am not sure he is trying to be that esoteric and I'm not sure if it would pay either. But if our collective journey is about awareness of higher and higher truths, what use is Half Past Human data? Another distraction?

[Greg10036]

the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.

The bombs are what got the star people's attention. As one whistleblower once said, "Look out, the kids have found the matches." Once we gained knowledge of the nuclear genie, they became quite interested in what was going on here. One thing led to another, the Eisenhower treaty, etc. and now, here we are. Millions of contactees. The odds are so great of total destruction with Terra bristling with nuclear teeth that the star people are now compelled to take action to prevent us from destroying the ecology of this sector of the galaxy for eons. This is in all peoples best interest above and below. BTW we are not like ants to them, we are like chipmunks. Peace.
Greg

[Kelle Baley]

plenty of connection of all opposites so that we avert falling into fear. more inner voice feeling for the truth and most of all, I want to create a world around us that is linked to the Earth not technology and remember the lost technology of the physical body. WE are in universal vessels able to create direct from the creator. this is divine.