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tandiwe
10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Just been on BBC news from Reuters, one line:

A US war plane has been forced to land in Iran after being caught in its air space.

Mummy_bean
10-07-2008, 01:15 PM
Just got that here too - BBC - adrenalin through the roof.

Apparently it was an accident - unintentional, from Turkey. Yeah right. 5 US generals on board.

I'm Off shopping!

Snooks
10-07-2008, 01:20 PM
Just heard it on CNBC

khristmaskathy
10-07-2008, 01:20 PM
I heard this just now on a cable news channel. I wonder if this is the big October 7th event that sets of a change of things for the United States?

tandiwe
10-07-2008, 01:21 PM
Yeah I am pretty shaken up too. Adrenalin and a little shaky.

US plane entered illegally into Iranian air space flying low to avoid radar - Iranian news agency are saying its UNINTENTIONAL from Turkey en route to Afganistan passengers 5 senior US generals and 3 civilians have been questioned and RELEASED.

Midnight Oil
10-07-2008, 01:22 PM
Well, title says it. This has just happened, details will be rollin' in soon. I'll keep you updated.

Source( don't bother its in Turkish):
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/dunya/10063374.asp?gid=229&sz=29747

Oh..its military plane by the way...

Mummy_bean
10-07-2008, 01:22 PM
Streaming headline - it's being played down at the mo. Brief report really.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7657066.stm

AMA-GI
10-07-2008, 01:23 PM
The agency added that the incursion was unintentional, and those on board were questioned and released.

All cool.

MisterSparks
10-07-2008, 01:23 PM
The passengers consisted of FIVE US generals plus a few civillians. Tha could've been a major incident

tandiwe
10-07-2008, 01:24 PM
Yeah man, thank goodness for that, calming down now.

Colin
10-07-2008, 01:25 PM
Source: BBC NEWS24:

Sketchy reports coming in from Reuters and Iranian news agenty.

A Falcon aircraft with 5 senior US Generals and 3 civilians was forced to land by Iranian fighter jets after unintentionally entering Iranian airspace onroute from Turkey to Afghanistan.

The US aircraft was reported to have flown under the radar curtain. All passengers have been questioned and released.

Mummy_bean
10-07-2008, 01:27 PM
US Military are denying having any reports of this. Iran not showing pictures.
Hmmmmmm

tandiwe
10-07-2008, 01:27 PM
More from the BBC.

American military have said that they have no reports of any military aircrafty being forced down. All aircraft accounted for.

Showed pictures from current Tehran news coming through and not on the news there. And a Falcon military craft cannot hold 8 people though it could be a private Falcon plane.

MisterSparks
10-07-2008, 01:28 PM
Hmm. The Pentagon are saying that all war planes are accounted for. Seems the plane was a private one. Iranian sabre rattling, perhaps?

ATYT
10-07-2008, 01:28 PM
US plane 'forced to land in Iran'
Breaking News

A US plane has been forced to land in Iran after violating Iranian territory, the Iranian semi-official Fars news agency has reported.

It said the Falcon aircraft entered Iranian airspace from Turkey, flying at low altitude to avoid radar.

The agency said the plane was detected by Iranian fighter jets, which forced it to land at an undisclosed airport.

Passengers included five senior American generals and three civilians, the report said.

The agency said the group was interrogated at the airport and then allowed to leave after it was realised they had entered unintentionally.

More details to follow.

KittyK
10-07-2008, 01:28 PM
Iran news agency says U.S. warplane's incursion into Iran territory was unintentional, U.S. military officials were questioned and released. Pentagon spokesman says unaware of any U.S. warplanes being forced to land in Iran. 2:21pm BST

From Reuters

EYES WIDE OPEN
10-07-2008, 01:29 PM
A MILITARY AIRPANE WITH 5 TOP GENERALS "unintentionally entering Iranian airspace".

CALL ME SUSPICIOUS BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIT MORE THAN AN ACCIDENT.

tandiwe
10-07-2008, 01:32 PM
Official absolute denial from the Penatagon. Report was from Fars news agency.

Iranian TV - nothing so far in terms of pictures but saying yes we have intercepted.

Son of Eire
10-07-2008, 01:32 PM
U.S. military denies all.

WereallDOOMED
10-07-2008, 01:32 PM
Something fishy about this already. US denying it. Iranian's not showing any footage.

Namaste

ATYT
10-07-2008, 01:33 PM
Iranian news agency catching up: http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=71510&sectionid=351020104

from Press TV.

Midnight Oil
10-07-2008, 01:34 PM
Someones playing a dangerous game but don't know who? Fake news to make more room for an attack? Damn...who knows...

Mummy_bean
10-07-2008, 01:35 PM
It's almost comical...

Am I the only one who's preferring to believe Iran?

I guess all will become clear.

Colin
10-07-2008, 01:35 PM
U.S. military denies all.

Correct. Pentagon states "All aircraft are accounted for"

Something smells..

KittyK
10-07-2008, 01:37 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7657066.stm

from BBC...

WereallDOOMED
10-07-2008, 01:38 PM
On a side note.

I have never heard the word FUNDAMENTAL used so much in my life. It is everywhere. Everyone is using it. Is this the FUNDAMENTAL times we are in?

This particular story is FUNDAMENTALLY fishy.


FUNDAMENTALLY Namaste!!

MisterSparks
10-07-2008, 01:39 PM
Am I the only one who's preferring to believe Iran?



I have to say I'm with you on that. I don't believe any bugger these days...

Mummy_bean
10-07-2008, 01:41 PM
Ok - now they are saying it's not Americans, and not an American Jet.

Someone was on that plane....whoooooo????????? ;o)

carlsweden
10-07-2008, 01:45 PM
Iran report says U.S. plane violated Iran's airspace
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$0 stock trades. 10 free per month.TEHRAN (Reuters) - An Iranian news agency said on Tuesday that a U.S. military aircraft had unintentionally violated Iranian airspace and been forced to land in Iran, but later allowed to leave.

The semi-official Fars News Agency did not say when the incident happened or give a source for the report, which comes at a time of tension between Tehran and Washington over Iran's disputed nuclear program.

The news agency said five senior U.S. military officials had been interrogated at an Iranian airport and released a day later after it became clear the plane had not entered Iranian airspace intentionally.
Pentagon denies report U.S. plane landed in Iran
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¥ € $ - Learn. Practice. Trade.WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon denied on Tuesday an Iranian news report that a U.S. military aircraft had violated Iranian territory and had been forced to land in Iran, saying all American planes were accounted for.

"All aircraft in the region are accounted for and we have no reports of any aircraft landing in Iran," Lt. Col. Patrick Ryder told reporters.

"I haven't heard anything like that," said Pentagon Bryan Whitman.

The Iran news agency reported earlier that a U.S. warplane had violated Iranian territory and had been forced to land in Iran.

(Reporting by Paul Eckert and David Morgan)

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"After it became clear that they unintentionally entered Iran's air space and their destination was Afghanistan, they were allowed to leave Iran for Afghanistan," Fars said.

In Washington, the Pentagon said it was unaware of any U.S. warplanes being forced to land in Iran and that all U.S. aricraft in the Gulf region were accounted for.

In an initial report, Fars described the aircraft as a warplane. But later it simply called it a "Falcon," giving no further details.

(Reporting by Parisa Hafezi; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

MisterSparks
10-07-2008, 01:51 PM
Ah, good old BBC. Confusion reigns...

christopherthomson
10-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Another major event prevented?

Or another smokescreen?

Colin
10-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Moving to Unconfirmed News till we have exact details on this!

To many conflicting reports from various news agencies:thumbdown:

Event_Horizon
10-07-2008, 01:55 PM
They've changed their story on the BBC now

Iran 'forces down foreign plane'

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7657066.stm

SpaceMonkey
10-07-2008, 01:56 PM
bbc news have just said that iranian officials say there were no americans on board and also it isn't a military plane.

Event_Horizon
10-07-2008, 01:59 PM
bbc news have just said that iranian officials say there were no americans on board and also it isn't a military plane.

Something is not right about all this

vega
10-07-2008, 02:01 PM
There were no US Generals on board. The plane was a Falcon civilian aircraft. All occupants were released.

1) 5 US Genarals would never travel on the same plane together. Its against pentagon protocol.

2) US Generals don't travel in Falcon Jets. They almost always fly in armed aircraft.

Nothing is going to happen on the 7th.

Peace and Light
Vega

Thunderbird
10-07-2008, 02:05 PM
thank goodness the headline plastered all over the news wasnt....
5 generals and top civillian contractors were shot down over iran this morning...which was what was intended

I_Am
10-07-2008, 02:05 PM
The where released soon after:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7657066.stm

I'd say, that not all American warriors and not all Iranian ditoes are willing to start the WWIII that their leaders orders them to...maybe Illuminati doesn't have all their sheep in the same path to slaughter.

Remember the "missing" atom bomb plane from last summer? Think that some soliders will prove to have saved millions of american lives.

Doesn't Project Camelot have a story running about all those who mysteriously died soon after - revenge from their masters for not obeying the call?

WereallDOOMED
10-07-2008, 02:08 PM
No doubt something happened. I suspect it was a covert team trying to drop into Iran in the guise of a civilian plane. Somebody was upto something. A jet does not just penetrate Iranian airspace by mistake. If it is just as simple as that then I hope I never have that Captain as my pilot.

Namaste

tandiwe
10-07-2008, 02:09 PM
Huge sigh of relief.

MisterSparks
10-07-2008, 02:25 PM
The BBC have said it was a Hungarian plane that landed a week ago with no Americans on it at all.

Move along people, nothing to see here...

JesterTerrestrial
10-07-2008, 02:28 PM
Don't believe the hype!

well at least i Don't.

lehomonuka
10-07-2008, 02:34 PM
uh oppps, flying low to avoid the radar....
caught red handed and the Pentagon denies it:naughty:
you can bet the Iranians are going over every inch of that plane
before they give it back,if they do.

Ali Quadir
10-07-2008, 02:37 PM
:mfr_omg:

Guys... How exactly DO you fit 5 generals into one falcon? Do you attach them to the missile pods or do they sit on top? Maybe I am thinking of the wrong plane, I am no expert. But apart from the millenium falcon and another super scifi spacecraft this is the only falcon I could find.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16_Fighting_Falcon

Do we have people who know airplanes here?

WereallDOOMED
10-07-2008, 02:53 PM
:mfr_omg:

Guys... How exactly DO you fit 5 generals into one falcon? Do you attach them to the missile pods or do they sit on top? Maybe I am thinking of the wrong plane, I am no expert. But apart from the millenium falcon and another super scifi spacecraft this is the only falcon I could find.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16_Fighting_Falcon

Do we have people who know airplanes here?



This could be the plane in question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Falcon_900

WereallDOOMED
10-07-2008, 02:57 PM
Or there is this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Falcon_50


or this link to loads of them.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Falcon_20

Operator
10-07-2008, 03:06 PM
There were no US Generals on board. The plane was a Falcon civilian aircraft. All occupants were released.

1) 5 US Genarals would never travel on the same plane together. Its against pentagon protocol.

2) US Generals don't travel in Falcon Jets. They almost always fly in armed aircraft.

Nothing is going to happen on the 7th.

Peace and Light
Vega

Unless something else was going on .... I heard some top military people were planning something against Bush ... ?

I am sure, if so, they will not be doing that IN the pentagon, nor will they follow pentagon rules ...

How it all fits in, I have no clue. But sometimes you find answers by thinking outside of the box ... (as we all know).

Cheers

Reveling John
10-07-2008, 03:22 PM
So.... does this still count as 'unconfirmed' news. Considering that the whole world will know about it in a few hours.

Reveling John
10-07-2008, 03:29 PM
Nevermind

rinauldi
10-07-2008, 03:36 PM
Unconfirmed? Confirmed? Who knows?

Does it meet the magic criteria?

* Is it accurate
* Is it verifiable from at leat 2 different sources
* Is it relevant to the current situation

Seems that stifiling policies have brought posting to a halt. Did Cheney infiltrate as an admin? lol :mfr_lol::mfr_omg:

:sweatdrop::sweatdrop::sweatdrop:

WereallDOOMED
10-07-2008, 04:15 PM
Fox News just reported a confrontation with the revolutianary guard and american helicopters. This thing just gets murkier and murkier.

Floyd
10-07-2008, 04:28 PM
IT was Hungarian and not American
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7657066.stm

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Iran-Fighters-Force-Plane-To-Land/Article/200810115115172?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_A rticle_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15115172_Iran_Fighters_Force_Plane_To_ Land

Colin
10-07-2008, 04:31 PM
Unconfirmed? Confirmed? Who knows?

Does it meet the magic criteria?

* Is it accurate
* Is it verifiable from at leat 2 different sources
* Is it relevant to the current situation

Seems that stifiling policies have brought posting to a halt. Did Cheney infiltrate as an admin? lol :mfr_lol::mfr_omg:

:sweatdrop::sweatdrop::sweatdrop:

Would you rather the whole forum was littered with rumour/conjecture?

Unlike yourself, the majority of the members are quite happy with the above criteria.
They are not stifling policies - they are there to ensure verified news items are available without having to wade through various post's quoting Sorcha Faal, Naomi Wolf..or Blossom Goodchild as verifiable sources..

If you are not happy with the way the forum is run (unlike many other members) then maybe you should post on another forum that has no qualms about touting rumour and conjecture as verified facts.

..oh, almost forgot, I checked your website, and if you'd read the email I sent to all members properly you would understand why I asked members to check their sources before posting news item. It is not stifling free speech

Have a nice day :thumb_yello:

WereallDOOMED
10-07-2008, 04:41 PM
Just thought I would post the link to the story I caught on Fox News. It happened last month. Apologies for the lazyness of my post.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433832,00.html

loveTempest
10-07-2008, 04:51 PM
Wow. Looks like our("US") plans were foiled again. Funny, the military was already briefed to deny the incident.
I have felt the strong sensation of doubling time events the past two days.
somehow escalation was averted.
Loving God's plan.

Ali Quadir
10-07-2008, 05:59 PM
WereallDOOMED
Thanks for the references to the planes...
These make a whole lot more sense than a fighter :) I saw those generals hanging on to the wings in my minds eye.

Neither are in use by the US according to their articles... But I don't suppose that means very much....

Edit: No wait, the 20 model is in use by the US.. I wasn't paying attention.

CROYCO
10-07-2008, 07:11 PM
WOOOOOO guys:

The plane was from Hungry and has been let go. BBC 2 min ago.

Steve_A
10-07-2008, 07:17 PM
Hi tandiwe,

CBN over here in Brazil inform that it wasn't an American plane, nor was it military. It was Hungarian and it happened back in September. It's only now that the Iranians are talking about it.

Best regards,

Steve


Just been on BBC news from Reuters, one line:

A US war plane has been forced to land in Iran after being caught in its air space.

jakelee
10-07-2008, 07:21 PM
Hi all in here, nice to be here and i really like your discussions - interesting !

According to different official Danish medias and like the link to BBC, they state that the plane was heading for Afganistan with civilian aid and the like...
Lets see if this is the end of the story. :winksmiley02:

Best regards from Denmark to ya all

Jacob

Trishsgate
10-13-2008, 11:29 PM
http://www.truthout.org/100908A In Reversal, Democrats Shelve Iran Resolution
Falling from shoo-in status to widely rejected legislation within the space of four months, a resolution that would have opened the door for a naval blockade on Iran was officially shelved at the end of September, after several of its cosponsors withdrew their support. House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman has promised not to bring the bill, House Concurrent Resolution 362, before the committee until concerns about the text are addressed.

This in my opinion is very good news, Hope it remains this way. The key to resolving disputes is not in a show of force but in a show of compassion and understanding, resolving conflict thru diplomatic processes rather than war, killing, and hardships placed upon that country which do not benefit either country. I added this to the Iran thread rather than start another thread. :sweatdrop:

Love & Peace
Trish

THE eXchanger
10-13-2008, 11:42 PM
I heard some top military people were planning something against Bush ... ?


yup, as, i said,
the inner circles,
are about to turn on the inner circles
(nothing like dirty people,
turning to the light,
and, then cleaning up all the **** for us)
it is similiar to all the BS involved,
in climbing a corporate ladder,
there is always someone below someone else,
who does NOT like them,
the rungs are falling out of the ladder,
there are too many people,
trying to climb up, 9 different sides of the pin,
NONE OF THEM TRUST one another,
so, when you do NOT have the 18 virtues in place,
nothing, can stand the test of time

big difference here,
is that with all the info getting out there,
on a vast assortment of different things,
like masons, etc., - that the outside members,
have been asking the core tooo many questions
and, a lot of them, are turning and walking away
(i was up north, in a small town, one week ago,
and, was surprised, when i asked a local restaurant owner, about them, and, he said, hardly anyone shows up anymore) a sign of the times ???
lets hope so (this town was started in the early 1800's)

love
susan
the eXchanger

unloadedgunn
10-14-2008, 01:01 AM
Is it "tomorrow" yet in Iran? In other words was this a Oct. 7th or an Oct. 8th event?

RSF
10-24-2008, 12:20 PM
Wondering about the plane too? What make & model, what sophisticated stuff on board and was it destructed before landing?
RSF