For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative

[Orion Morris]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

[Thunderbird]

hehe funny that....

[Sarahmay]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

AMEN! Thanks for this!!!

[mudra]

You missed the " 7th october take it as an opportunity thread ".
It still time to join there and ride on the good vibes.

kindness

mudra

[LightSaber]

Agree Orion Morris,

There is much to be said for living in the "NOW." The future will come in it's own time. Take heart knowing that like attracts like (their time will come). We all on this forum know our spirits live past the physical so stop worrying. Be calm, be strong and live in this present moment. Stop letting your consciousness be dictated by what may be a plan to use our thoughts to create "their" will.

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.

[Wellerite]

"We are watching and experiencing a society turning to chaos. That is the essence of change, that outward forces demolish so that the inner idea, the spiritual power, shall be released to re-form. This is the adventure of soul metamorphosis. As we awaken to the truth that we are eternal spiritual beings who can dedicate ourselves to the service of the world as conscious instruments through which the higher worlds can channel themselves, so we expand in consciousness and move into levels of light... this is the challenge and destiny of our time." -Sir George Trevelyan

Chew on that Morris my friend

[NINE]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

Thank you for providing the voice of sanity.

You enjoy that cold one, my friend.:mfr_lol:

[Orion11]

I agree Orion!!!

it seems that alot of people forget.........

that the Universe knows what Its doing......
and everything is going to happen as it should....

chillax eh?

its like a fear monger factory rooun here half the time.. lol

smile or somethin. :)

cheers Orion M!~ K+
(/|\)

[Sanat]

Yea, this forum is no longer a nice place to be. It has attracted a lot of self-serving parasites spreading dis-ease and darkness. The cleanup has really not changed anything. Perhaps the solution is to start charging some money for it. Most parasites would rather find some host that is "free".

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

so your saying god /universe is going to give you an easy ride into a golden paradise. we will just meditate and dream our way into it .. il ike to stike a balance.. learning new info is only fear mongering of your suceptible to fear.. we are adult enough to take what someone says and interpret it ourselves.. if you dont agree wioth an info thread you dont have to look at it..

i think i smell fear somehwere. its not comoing from me tho. i want to know it all , tyhe most diabolical plans and awful acts planned for us.. then i know what to look out for, what to avoid and how i might best prepare to avoid and fight it/ help others. knowledge is power!! some people are a bit fagile on here and are clearly nbot gonna make it if it gets rough and tumble .. good luck to all tho :)

[Orion Morris]

so your saying god /universe is going to give you an easy ride into a golden paradise.

Wow!! I never read anything like that on this thread!

I also think that Oct 7th is almost past... and nothing happened!

How much energy did this whole community waste on the whole prediction?

I for one was a little worried about it....

I am just saying that alot of our energy is wasted on pointing to very terrible realities. I do not think that being ignorant about future possibilites is the way to go about it, but I also think it is a waste for a bunch of computer nerds to sit around and scare the s**t out of eachother all day.
Especially when I bet not even 10% of us could live off the land during the winter time. Like I said before, everybody would be craping their pants if things really got hairy!

[Orion Morris]

i think i smell fear somehwere. its not comoing from me tho.

figures... it is never our fault

[Newliving]

i want to know it all , tyhe most diabolical plans and awful acts planned for us.. then i know what to look out for, what to avoid and how i might best prepare to avoid and fight it/ help others. knowledge is power!!

True for me too, friend.

[Steve_G]

I guess the best policy is just to hope that all the systems that keep us in slavery carry on then. Preserve the status quo eh? That way all our kids can have lives just as empty and even more oppressed than ours. And their kids, ad infinitum. Good plan!

Do you really look at the world and think it's in good working order, benefiting us all? Do you think you're going to wake up one morning and everything is suddenly going to be hunky dory, the masters of greed and starvation and diseases and economic slavery all suddenly replaced by thousands of King Arthur's without anything collapsing first?

If so you have more than enough positivity for all of us :thumb_yello:

[Whitewolf]

Perhaps the solution is to start charging some money for it.


No, fighting fire with fire is never the solution. Money is used by the PTB to enslave the world's population as well as to keep us divided amongst ourselves. Should this site become a "pay only" site, that would cause further division because only those who could afford it would be able to be a part of the community. It's vitally important to not assist the dark ones in attaining their goals of "divide and conquer".

The true answer rests in keeping positive NO MATTER WHAT.

As for people cheering the coming crash of this diabolical system, I agree with Sunrunner. It's just that...cheering the end of the status quo. That's not the same as hoping that massive amounts of people begin to suffer (they already are, no?) In order for the Golden Age to be constructed, the old has to be DE-constructed. The current system in place needs to end for the new to begin. THAT is what is being cheered for. We want radical change. We want PEACEFUL radical change. And when these changes begin to take place, we naturally gear up for it because we WANT it to happen. There is nothing negative about it whatsoever.

[dragonfly]

True for me too, friend.

:thumb_yello: Me too!

[Carol]

Sometimes when looking at some threads it appears someone is shouting fire. Or someone else sees perhaps a child playing with matches and goes into a panic thinking Fire. These posts can serve a purpose if they are used to shift into a prevention mode. If there is a fire, call the fire department. Here it is calling upon our community spiritual light brigage to focus their positive energy and intent on a specific event and/or potential to help alter the outcome.

Often times, when this has been done and a new outcome did occur, the community at large may just say... well it didn't happen, so it wouldn't of happened, so what's the big deal.

There was this one research article where a group of monks went into a very high crime area and began to meditate for a period of months. Throughout the entire time they were there meditating crime decreased. This was statical data gleened from various police reports.

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside. :thumb_yello:

[Newliving]

I also think that Oct 7th is almost past... and nothing happened!



Urban Survival's analysis at http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm makes interesting reading.

Scroll down to When's this a "Crash"?

[Myra]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

LOL that's funny. At least we can laugh today. :lol3:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

figures... it is never our fault
ive no idea what your getting at .. but whos fault ect ect blah blah about whatever is useless to go into..

as for nothing happening,in the usa nothing happened,in the uk however it was quite eventful. it was the start of the end of our banking system. 300 000 people had £4billion frozen in an icelandic internet bank. the 2 major uk banks had a meeting with the treasury today. barclays rbs and lloyds/tsb are gonna be bailed out/nationalised.. october 7th was indeed a landmark day.

will i dwell on it ? NO. would i rather know whats going on? YES i admit im slack, ive still got food stocks to get and a water filter and some survival clothing.. im not quite as prepared as some on here so im still happy to get more info as required..:smoke::bleh:

[undetected]

Maybe you want things to stay the same, but I definitely don't. I've been sick of this stupid society ever since I was 4 or so. Everything in this society is completely ludicrous and wrong. And it won't change by asking Mr. Bush to please stop killing us and stealing our money. Big changes bring some chaos. The quote Wellerite posted says it better than I could so I'll just point to that.

And again, somebody is confusing "informing about the negative stuff happening" with "being negative." If you see negativity in the threads, maybe it's your mind reflecting in them.

[Newliving]

There was this one research article where a group of monks went into a very high crime area and began to meditate for a period of months. Throughout the entire time they were there meditating crime decreased. This was statical data gleened from various police reports.

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside. :thumb_yello:

I know this to be true, having been part of large groups of Yogic Flyers in the 1980s, when statistical analysis proved the benefits of 'increased coherence in collective consciousness' in a given area where the number of Flyers was more than the square root of 1% of the population. So yes, let those who can, do.

For those who can't, or won't, a different approach is helpful, I feel, and that's where 'service to others' may take a more practical, hands-on role, in whatever ways one feels so inclined or able. Every little helps?

[seagull]

Yea, this forum is no longer a nice place to be. It has attracted a lot of self-serving parasites spreading dis-ease and darkness. The cleanup has really not changed anything. Perhaps the solution is to start charging some money for it. Most parasites would rather find some host that is "free".

They cleaned out the best people or rather the best wisely departed long ago. So you think it will help this forum if the host parasites start charging money to their audience? What a joke. Darkness and fear is what is being left here and the leaders of this pack are what is behind it.

Sure go ahead and charge people to enter this den. I think it is a great idea. Charge them dearly. The hosts will then attract the ignorant-wealthy which is a great combination for this forum. Maybe a few of those paying members will help pay to pollute the atmosphere of this planet some more. You know all that flying to and fro to interview people must help the environment tremendously. It is especially important to fly to Australia to interview people in the United States. I don't know what we could have done without those most recent interviews. My God they saved so many lives and brought so much more happiness to the world.

There you go. More positive comments for your thread. I wonder if this will get sensored by the nazis as well.

[dragonfly]

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside. :thumb_yello:


Yeah:mfr_lol:

Doesn't anyone want to consider that perhaps we thwarted it ourselves? Slowed it down at least. I don't think they are going to give up until they throw out the last card, but we sure can make a difference. I beleive we have, and the more of us waking the more power we will have. Please, let's stop arguing. Nobody gets anywhere proving themselves. Unless you live to feed ego. That's ok. I prefer truth. Itegrity. Life!

We are here to share and empower one another. Pretty simple and caring I would say.

[Orion Morris]

I am sorry if I came across wrong...

Honestly I just got my first teaching job and for the first time I am able to make a difference and see it on a daily basis. I also have to serve weekends in jail because of a d.u.i that I earned last year sometime. I worry that if things go to hell here like economic crash followed by looting and possibly martial law that I woudl be stuck in jail. I dont know how many of you have actually had your freedom taken from you physically but it will change what you appreciate. I do not want to be stuck in the clink when anything happens because I have a feeling that they will just keep all the inmates there. I put off the last two weekends because I was worried about all this talk about october 7th and then nothing happened. Then today when I got on avalon everybody was still talking about everything that "could" happen. I know that no matter how prepared we are it is going to hurt for everybody when this system that we ARE all addicted to right now collapses under our feet.

I want to change the system more than anything right now...
But for those of you who believe that our thoughts manifest into reality then I feel like it is pointless to point out all these horrible possabilites. I am not saying that all of them are not relevant to post...

But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy....

Then look at all the predictions and false theories that have been posted that we have wasted our thought on....

I just feel like we need to laugh and love a little more... maybe throw a party.. while we can!!

[feeler]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

Realists have more to contemplate than sheeple.

[Racsouran]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

people with no life in this society wants a new one in their society, basically one based on medieval ideas. And they wish it to happen no matter if millions die, preferably, what this "light beings" call the sheep, or the slept. Welcome to the ****; that´s what´s this forum is all about. How spiritual and enlithtened it sounds, yea?.

This forum is starting to be another ****** Godlikeproductions, with all that fail everywhere, and those stupid date predictions, etctra.

[zorgon]

"We are watching and experiencing a society turning to chaos.

No here they are feeding and wishing for society to turn into chaos. If enough people scream that the backs will fail on a set day, and many fall for the fear... they will run out and pull their money... and by doing so CREATE the chaos they claim is happening 'beyond their control'

[zorgon]

i want to know it all ,

No trust me you do NOT want to know it all... you just THINK you can handle it because of what you have heard

:biggrin2:

I aslo hope you al realise what a blow to the credibility of this site and many of those following the predictions will be afetr Oct 14th when the world is still here and there was no spaceship...

It will be hard to regain that credibility ... the 'next time'

And while all the Chicken Little's are running around screaming "The Sky is Falling"... it REALLY IS...

ASTEROID IMPACT--UPDATE: Asteroid 2008 TC3 hit Earth this morning, Oct. 7th, and exploded in the atmosphere over northern Sudan. An infrasound array in Kenya recorded the impact. Dr. Peter Brown of the University of Western Ontario has inspected the data and he estimates that the asteroid hit at 0243 UTC with an energy between 1.1 and 2.1 kilotons of TNT. Most of the 3-meter-wide space rock should have been vaporized in the atmosphere with only small pieces reaching the ground as meteorites.

http://spaceweather.com/ pick Oct 7th 2008http://spaceweather.com/swpod2008/07oct08/infrasoundmap_strip2.jpg

[Racsouran]

No trust me you do NOT want to know it all... you just THINK you can handle it because of what you have heard

:biggrin2:

I aslo hope you al realise what a blow to the credibility of this site and many of those following the predictions will be afetr Oct 14th when the world is still here and there was no spaceship...

It will be hard to regain that credibility ... the 'next time'

if you want to quote more than one post by one or more persons, use the option "multi" that is near the button "quote" on all the posts you want to quote, then, hit reply.:trumpet:

[zorgon]

if you want to quote more than one post by one or more persons,

Ah and I can predict that I will answer more than one post before I read them how?

:shocked:

[seagull]

Dear ZORGON.

Please read this.

BE GONE

[Orion Morris]

I aslo hope you al realise what a blow to the credibility of this site and many of those following the predictions will be afetr Oct 14th when the world is still here and there was no spaceship...

It will be hard to regain that credibility ... the 'next time'



my point exactley

[SirKnight]

There certainly is a difference between wanting to understand what is or might be going on so one can better prepare for it and thinking that you are only a pawn with no options or choices. After all, you don't want to be so heavenly minded that your no earthly good. :thumb_yello:

I for one, my be older but I am always willing to stand up for what I believe is right. :lightsabre:

Let's not keep taking the low road but help each other rise above it with knowledge and a better understanding of where we are going as a part of the whole. :wink2:

[Racsouran]

Ah and I can predict that I will answer more than one post before I read them how?

:shocked:

you should take my advice, usually double posting is not allowed in any forum, u get the point i wanna explain?:tongue2:


Btw, this site never had any credibility whatsoever, and project camelot interviews always aks you for a leap of faith in what´s being said, so..... if you life sucks bad and you are desperate you are the perfect objetive of such preachings, didn´t need any failed predictions to enhance that feeling. Im not denying the validity of anything there or here, i am stating those things, for what they are.

As an observer i kept track of the trends, just because of my curiosity on this ambiguous issues.

[undetected]

But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy....

Sure some people do that. But try to imagine how tough the moderators' job is, walking on the line between "weeding out the bad users" and "censorship." You ban anyone posting negative stuff, you get accused of choosing what messages you want here and denying freedom, blabla. You leave them be and you get other users complaining about these users. Not easy to handle all that imo, especially considering how many new posts appear every minute.

Let's just tough it out and deal with whatever people post. Take what you like, ignore the rest. And let the mods do the moderating. You can't have a "perfect" forum on this imperfect planet.

[Racsouran]

Sure some people do that. But try to imagine how tough the moderators' job is, walking on the line between "weeding out the bad users" and "censorship." You ban anyone posting negative stuff, you get accused of choosing what messages you want here and denying freedom, blabla. You leave them be and you get other users complaining about these users. Not easy to handle all that imo, especially considering how many new posts appear every minute.

Let's just tough it out and deal with whatever people post. Take what you like, ignore the rest. And let the mods do the moderating. You can't have a "perfect" forum on this imperfect planet.

i would never take the responsability of being a mod in any forum, not just this one.:insane:

[undetected]

Btw, this site never had any credibility whatsoever, and project camelot interviews always aks you for a leap of faith in what´s being said, so.....

With this attitude you have over 200 posts here? Uhm...

[Sherab]

Wow!! I never read anything like that on this thread!

I also think that Oct 7th is almost past... and nothing happened!

How much energy did this whole community waste on the whole prediction?

I for one was a little worried about it....

I am just saying that alot of our energy is wasted on pointing to very terrible realities. I do not think that being ignorant about future possibilites is the way to go about it, but I also think it is a waste for a bunch of computer nerds to sit around and scare the s**t out of eachother all day.
Especially when I bet not even 10% of us could live off the land during the winter time. Like I said before, everybody would be craping their pants if things really got hairy!

This post is priceless!! roflmao!!! :lmao:

I agree 110%...with a 10% boost for the humor. Keep it up Orion!

[Steve_G]

I am sorry if I came across wrong...

Honestly I just got my first teaching job and for the first time I am able to make a difference and see it on a daily basis. I also have to serve weekends in jail because of a d.u.i that I earned last year sometime. I worry that if things go to hell here like economic crash followed by looting and possibly martial law that I woudl be stuck in jail. I dont know how many of you have actually had your freedom taken from you physically but it will change what you appreciate. I do not want to be stuck in the clink when anything happens because I have a feeling that they will just keep all the inmates there. I put off the last two weekends because I was worried about all this talk about october 7th and then nothing happened. Then today when I got on avalon everybody was still talking about everything that "could" happen. I know that no matter how prepared we are it is going to hurt for everybody when this system that we ARE all addicted to right now collapses under our feet.

I want to change the system more than anything right now...
But for those of you who believe that our thoughts manifest into reality then I feel like it is pointless to point out all these horrible possabilites. I am not saying that all of them are not relevant to post...

But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy....

Then look at all the predictions and false theories that have been posted that we have wasted our thought on....

I just feel like we need to laugh and love a little more... maybe throw a party.. while we can!!

I can see your point of view dude, but the problem is these systems are so big and established it's going to be virtually impossible to replace them without them collapsing. I wish it was different but it isn't- too many people in these systems have too much to lose.

Let's be clear, what we're talking about is the collapse of an almost global empire. It isn't going to be pretty even in best case scenarios. I believe the effects CAN be mitigated, but not avoided entirely. But it has to happen because if it doesn't we're in for a period of darkness that is way beyond the bleakest days of Nazi Germany.

There IS positivity in hoping for the collapse because it makes way for an infinitely more positive alternative.


Edit- Holy s**t! Did I just espouse "ordo ab chao!!!!?????" Please shoot me!

[Orion Morris]

Sure some people do that. But try to imagine how tough the moderators' job is, walking on the line between "weeding out the bad users" and "censorship." You ban anyone posting negative stuff, you get accused of choosing what messages you want here and denying freedom, blabla. You leave them be and you get other users complaining about these users. Not easy to handle all that imo, especially considering how many new posts appear every minute.

Let's just tough it out and deal with whatever people post. Take what you like, ignore the rest. And let the mods do the moderating. You can't have a "perfect" forum on this imperfect planet.


I understand that the moderators must have one heck of a time trying to sort all this stuff. I applaude the moderators for the way they have came in and put most of the fires out.

But... I posted a thread with a link to a Bill Hicks audio clip
This clip spoke of our spiritual evolution, love, reality, acceptence, god and numerous other very relevant topics. I understand that he spoke of mushrooms and Terrance Mckenna but I do not feel like it deserved to be removed completley.

The thread was cencored.. How is our connection to oneness and spiritual evolution not relevant to the feeling that brought all of us here in the first place.

If it is ok to post hundreds of threads about possibly untrue negative news storeis than how can it not be ok to post one Bill Hicks thread

I woud give you the link here but I do not want any more conflict....
Just run a search for Bill Hicks and magic mushrooms...
give it a listen and tell me if it is not relevant.

[Suishou]

I really like the videos that Bill and Kerry have produced. I even made a small donation to help them continue what they are doing. But as for this forum I think it seems to be 80% reactionary gloom and doom postings. There are so many threads and currents of positive things happening out there: green diy projects, mycoremediation, meditation techniques, new music, conferences, healers, etc etc. The list goes on and on. Why isn't this place full of those kinds of things?

The new Zeitgeist movie spends most of its time talking about the problems we already know about and only interviews one group of problem solvers? The film is great, but I would have loved to see two hours of just pure enthusiastic solutions and ways for people to get involved.

I will continue to watch Project Camelot's wonderful videos, but I am not really interested in all the reactionary stuff getting posted here. The future I want to be a part of is not a reaction to the past but a new force of its own.

[Whitewolf]

people with no life in this society wants a new one in their society, basically one based on medieval ideas. And they wish it to happen no matter if millions die, preferably, what this "light beings" call the sheep, or the slept. Welcome to the ****; that´s what´s this forum is all about. How spiritual and enlithtened it sounds, yea?.

This forum is starting to be another ****** Godlikeproductions, with all that fail everywhere, and those stupid date predictions, etctra.


This is one of the most ignorant posts that I've ever seen here on this messageboard. People with "no life" in this society. What exactly do you mean by that? And why do you assume that people want to live in a society based on medieval principles? That was essentially a totalitarian society with a caste system where thousands of "undesireables" were purged due to their religious/spiritual beliefs. Where do you get that we here want to live in such a culture? I don't get you.

[Racsouran]

This is one of the most ignorant posts that I've ever seen here on this messageboard. People with "no life" in this society. What exactly do you mean by that? And why do you assume that people want to live in a society based on medieval principles? That was essentially a totalitarian society with a caste system where thousands of "undesireables" were purged due to their religious/spiritual beliefs. Where do you get that we here want to live in such a culture? I don't get you.


i mean what you know what i mean.

[zuni]

this is one of the most ignorant posts that i've ever seen here on this messageboard. People with "no life" in this society. What exactly do you mean by that? And why do you assume that people want to live in a society based on medieval principles? That was essentially a totalitarian society with a caste system where thousands of "undesireables" were purged due to their religious/spiritual beliefs. Where do you get that we here want to live in such a culture? I don't get you.

nice whitewolf......spoken with such eloquence......i´m so happy we have someone as grounded as your self on this forum......your eyes are wide open and your seeing clearly.......big hug to you......

[Mike_Jetson]

To the OP, you said yourself you were a bit afraid and now you prob feel like youve wasted energy because there was no major financial collapse. If you yourself paid close attention to Deagles visions, you'll see he only said something would happen today that would trigger a process. Its the way people reacted to it and i agree as I believe you mentioned this as well but you should know as well as most that its like Chinese whispers. Listen to the vids and audio, make your own mind up. Ignore the people who have gone overboard with dark predictions.

Secondly. It sounds like youre pretty content with the current system. Do you think we can change anything when its only 1 percent of us(population) that actually want the changes we speak about. Changes which result in no jobs, no income, massive economic and social change. Do you think for one minute that we have a chance of working towards this system without the current system taking major major hits.

The population only wake up when they are forced to wake up, not solely by us preaching a better world. all we are doing now is the equivalent of whispering at them when they are sitting there with the TV on loud with the odd minor advert that things just arent right for a few seconds then back to their normal viewing mode.

Camelot and Avalon discuss a new future and hidden knowledge from many angles. The world is corrupt, tricking the masses into believing we need fossil fuels and that paper money is backed and worth something. Do you expect us all to come here and focus on the good? What good? Where is the good? We are making movements positively but they are currently so small and miniscule that they currently dont matter.

You started this thread probably for a similar reason to when I had a moan that most people couldnt survive outside for 10 days because with my current planning Id have a hard time. I dont even have a box of matches :) Ive read most of the doom threads and talks and im no worse. After Deagles call I was ready to hit all my credit cards for transfers until I told myself its only a vision. Some people have taken it as if he said all banks in Europe will fall on the 7th, which he said nothing of a sort. You have been affected therefore feel the need to try and tip the scales somewhat away from the doomers. Do it yourself, hunt down the threads you like, glance the ones you dont. Give 1 star to the bad, 5 stars to the good.

We dont know the truth. We can barely understand why some banks have been left and some havnt, what the PTB want and what they dont or in what order, which countries first etc. You dont expect a positive forum to take place with so much unanswered 'bad' stuff....unanswered hence it is discussed to try and get us closer.

[Carol]

No trust me you do NOT want to know it all... you just THINK you can handle it because of what you have heard

:biggrin2:

I aslo hope you al realise what a blow to the credibility of this site and many of those following the predictions will be afetr Oct 14th when the world is still here and there was no spaceship...

It will be hard to regain that credibility ... the 'next time'

And while all the Chicken Little's are running around screaming "The Sky is Falling"... it REALLY IS...

ASTEROID IMPACT--UPDATE: Asteroid 2008 TC3 hit Earth this morning, Oct. 7th, and exploded in the atmosphere over northern Sudan. An infrasound array in Kenya recorded the impact. Dr. Peter Brown of the University of Western Ontario has inspected the data and he estimates that the asteroid hit at 0243 UTC with an energy between 1.1 and 2.1 kilotons of TNT. Most of the 3-meter-wide space rock should have been vaporized in the atmosphere with only small pieces reaching the ground as meteorites.

http://spaceweather.com/ pick Oct 7th 2008http://spaceweather.com/swpod2008/07oct08/infrasoundmap_strip2.jpg

Zorgon.. there be spaceships now up in them there skies. :lol3:

The 14th will be no different that any other day when there are spaceships in the sky. :roll1:

Meaning the 14th won't be any different then any other day. Cheers

[Seva]

Sometimes when looking at some threads it appears someone is shouting fire. Or someone else sees perhaps a child playing with matches and goes into a panic thinking Fire. These posts can serve a purpose if they are used to shift into a prevention mode. If there is a fire, call the fire department. Here it is calling upon our community spiritual light brigage to focus their positive energy and intent on a specific event and/or potential to help alter the outcome.

Often times, when this has been done and a new outcome did occur, the community at large may just say... well it didn't happen, so it wouldn't of happened, so what's the big deal.

There was this one research article where a group of monks went into a very high crime area and began to meditate for a period of months. Throughout the entire time they were there meditating crime decreased. This was statical data gleened from various police reports.

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside. :thumb_yello:

I feel that aswell :) alot of groups were doing focused meditations. also being aware of something changes the outcome like schrodingers cat. All the things they are planning, were planning, but then a new thing in the mix, people are awake now, mind you they are cranky as hell but atleast they are awake. And maybe that makes a HUGE difference, you cant sneak up on the AWAKE - im speaking of the effects on the general populace.

about the negative stuff, well on one hand you wanna know you need to know, its like knowing where the dog pooped on the lawn so you dont step in it. but i did feel sick to my stomach after i listened to deagle and that feeling went on for 2 days. fear can freeze you. depends on what you do with it, this place for example is putting forth a avenue for solution, as in yes all this sucks and yes all this is happening but we can do this to counter act it. It is resistance to the helplessness this fear can lead u to.

Im sure 99% of us are not ready in anyway for it hitting the fan. Im not and that drives me nuts when i hear stuff like what deagle said. and i sure do feel a sigh of relief as it turns oct 8th LOL but im here, and im working with others who want to be a solution, as fumbling as it feels now, im driven to study permaculture, increase my knowledge of alternative healing methods, wherever i feel it pull me to learn. and networking with others. keeping my mind focused on the solutions the true intention of what this place is for what keeping me grounded right now.... best it can...

so many other places have fallen into fearmongering and bickering i hope that does not come to this place. actually it cant lol becasue we dont have time to play those games anymore ;) and many here feel that. BIG HUGS TO EVERYONE

[historycircus]

Preserve the status quo eh? That way all our kids can have lives just as empty and even more oppressed than ours.

The most intelligent post on this thread.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I am sorry if I came across wrong...

Honestly I just got my first teaching job and for the first time I am able to make a difference and see it on a daily basis...

But for those of you who believe that our thoughts manifest into reality then I feel like it is pointless to point out all these horrible possibilities. I am not saying that all of them are not relevant to post...

I just feel like we need to laugh and love a little more... maybe throw a party.. while we can!!

Well in the worst case scenario, what do you think one of the most important jobs will be in a Ground Crew Community? - A teacher...

just for a moment, let your imagination go...

imagine if you could look at someone, feel what they fear and go after the source? If it's nothing, just let it go, but if it is something real, being able to close your eyes and rewrite the story...

Imagine having those abilities, and staying away from negative stories, because of their bad vibes... Are you helping if you close your ears to what you should be listening for?

You are a teacher, imagine the gift of trying to teach a frustrated child, and all you have to do is imagine it in your mind and the child is able to see the image...

Think of a child having nightmares, and you being able to see them, erasing the evil and replacing it with dream that makes them smile...

What if I told you that you already have the ability?

A natural teacher...

for the next dimension...

[Circlewerk]

Well in the worst case scenario, what do you think one of the most important jobs will be in a Ground Crew Community? - A teacher...

just for a moment, let your imagination go...

imagine if you could look at someone, feel what they fear and go after the source? If it's nothing, just let it go, but if it is something real, being able to close your eyes and rewrite the story...

Imagine having those abilities, and staying away from negative stories, because of their bad vibes... Are you helping if you close your ears to what you should be listening for?

You are a teacher, imagine the gift of trying to teach a frustrated child, and all you have to do is imagine it in your mind and the child is able to see the image...

Think of a child having nightmares, and you being able to see them, erasing the evil and replacing it with dream that makes them smile...

What if I told you that you already have the ability?

A natural teacher...

for the next dimension...

Beautiful Soul~
Thank you.

[MMe M]

I am sorry if I came across wrong...

Honestly I just got my first teaching job and for the first time I am able to make a difference and see it on a daily basis. I also have to serve weekends in jail because of a d.u.i that I earned last year sometime. I worry that if things go to hell here like economic crash followed by looting and possibly martial law that I woudl be stuck in jail. I dont know how many of you have actually had your freedom taken from you physically but it will change what you appreciate. I do not want to be stuck in the clink when anything happens because I have a feeling that they will just keep all the inmates there. I put off the last two weekends because I was worried about all this talk about october 7th and then nothing happened. Then today when I got on avalon everybody was still talking about everything that "could" happen. I know that no matter how prepared we are it is going to hurt for everybody when this system that we ARE all addicted to right now collapses under our feet.

I want to change the system more than anything right now...
But for those of you who believe that our thoughts manifest into reality then I feel like it is pointless to point out all these horrible possabilites. I am not saying that all of them are not relevant to post...

But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy....

Then look at all the predictions and false theories that have been posted that we have wasted our thought on....

I just feel like we need to laugh and love a little more... maybe throw a party.. while we can!!

Well party boy, your not done paying the price for the last excess so maybe ya better get that done first before you crank up all the good love and laughin and part-A!

fer flips sake! Nobody talk about anything that might make the teacher miffed now. Life is downright terrifying sometimes. Sometimes you need to be prepared for one of lifes little unexpected nightmares. Forewarned is forearmed as kerry always says.

Grow up.

[historycircus]

Wow, yet another thread that bemoans our discussions about the anxiety we feel over the collapse of the global banking system, the rising tensions between the two most nuclear armed nations on the planet, the systematic attacks on our civil liberties by our own governments, etc. There is even the standard guy who calls anyone who wants to discuss such things "parasites" and looks forward to the day subscription fees for this site eliminate the regular contributions of many of us. There are several threads started just like this every week, and here we all are arguing again over over nothing - absolutely nothing.

Let's not forget the origins of this site either; a site spawned by the testimony of hard core researchers and new age sooth sayers who painted pictures of a present and possible futures that include alien abduction and experimentation, galactic wars, underground reptilian people eaters, shadow government plans for unbiased holocaust, choreographed warfare, nuclear winter, mass starvation, global pandemics, and list goes on and on. I'll even take you folks who believe that if we here don't think about such things, they won't happen. Have you watched the news or opened a newspaper lately? Have you seen your 401k or your parents' 401k drop by half or two thirds over the last two weeks? Have you seen the car bombs in Iraq and foods riots in Haiti? Have you noticed teenagers beating homeless guys to death for fun, or the rising rates of child abandonment in the U.S. and the Western world? The "wish it away" approach is not working - the nasty stuff posited by the "doom" crowd is manifesting right before our eyes.

And here is the rub: despite what some of you insinuate, it is not the "doom" crowds fault for merely thinking about it.

By your definition, I'm part of the "doom" crowd. I pray every day; ask the great power that spins the universe for global peace, and I often ask for smaller stuff - a hot meal for all the hungry kids on the planet, just for one night, to give them a little comfort in an increasingly uncomfortable world. I hope there is no war, no chaos. But to ignore that wars churn on, several of those kids I prayed for died last night because of malnutrition, and the slide toward chaos is increasing is philosophical and physical suicide. That some of us choose to acknowledge that life exists outside the "ohm circle," that there is much bad stuff going on out there, discuss it, try to figure out potentialities, and then try to figure out the best way to deal with it is only natural. I really resent you folks who accuse people like me of hoping for doom so that it fulfills some sort of chaos fantasy of mine - posts like that are childish pap than run 100% counter to the intent of this forum - to PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE. That you can't cope with the events that surround you and choose to live in a fantasy world of fairies, chants, and pretended elightenment does not make my attempts to make sense of the present and possible futures any less of a noble and intellectual activity.

Hopefully, I'll be there to feed you when your chant circle gets attacked by hungry gang-bangers and national storm-troopers.

[Orion Morris]

historycircus

I never started this thread to badmouth any particular person...

I agree that we shoudl prepare for the future and most importantley just try to find a future.

I do not agree that we should be taking everything that the tv and newspapers are telling us, because their is a reason they want us to be afraid.

I am not going to count on you to feed me but I hope that you will be able to if I ever needed it. I think that alot of the people who are saying they are prepared... really have no idea what prepared would actually consist of. Actually I dont think that you or I or anybody else for that matter, who is not self sustaining RIGHT NOW is prepared.... and another question.... how are you going to save us from the gang banging national storm troopers? With your light saber?

[Steve_G]

"... But, all the people we've been speaking to today say we're knuckling down for the long haul. As long as these markets recover everything should be fine."

This is a word for word quote from Sky News after announcing that currently the DOW is down 140 points and the FTSE is down 240 points. This follows the $700bn bailout in America, the £50bn bailout in the UK and the announcements of 0.5% interest rate cuts. Still the markets fall.

Given what everyone here knows about the financial system and how it works, does anyone think that the news channels are spreading doom and gloom? Or does it look like they continue to downplay the real situation for all they're worth?

Sorry Orion, but if the TV and newspapers had been honestly reporting what's been happening over the last two hundred years we wouldn't be in this situation.

[AMA-GI]

We have our knowedge,
And for those who dont we teach,
We know what is to become,
So let us be one and go on this journey together,
Supporting each other along the way.

[Orion Morris]

I agree sunrunner....

I believe that they are downplaying the whole thing... their is still no reason to be afriaid..

I also never said that that they were honestly reporting anything... I said the opposite...

For the most part, the people on this fourm are open minded and know not to trust the media.

[joet1980]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!



I think it's hypocritical of you to come on a forum that represents change and then talk about how everything is okay as long as you can go home to your cold one. Pathetic.

[Orion Morris]

I think it's hypocritical of you to come on a forum that represents change and then talk about how everything is okay as long as you can go home to your cold one. Pathetic.

That didnt change anything...

And why whould you judge me for saying that, I serously doubt that you are free from all vices... You are adicted to all types of physical and emotional stimulants...

obvousley you are not much different than the rest of us by calling me names

[joet1980]

That didnt change anything...

And why whould you judge me for saying that, I serously doubt that you are free from all vices... You are adicted to all types of physical and emotional stimulants...

obvousley you are not much different than the rest of us by calling me names


I haven't called you any names and I wasn't talking about your vices. :biggrin2:

[Steve_G]

I serously doubt that you are free from all vices... You are adicted to all types of physical and emotional stimulants...

Bang on. I smoke like a chimney and drink coffee. And I'm REALLY glad I switched to decaf a couple of months ago... :original:

[dolphin]

I am sorry if I came across wrong...

Honestly I just got my first teaching job and for the first time I am able to make a difference and see it on a daily basis. I also have to serve weekends in jail because of a d.u.i that I earned last year sometime. I worry that if things go to hell here like economic crash followed by looting and possibly martial law that I woudl be stuck in jail. I dont know how many of you have actually had your freedom taken from you physically but it will change what you appreciate. I do not want to be stuck in the clink when anything happens because I have a feeling that they will just keep all the inmates there. I put off the last two weekends because I was worried about all this talk about october 7th and then nothing happened. Then today when I got on avalon everybody was still talking about everything that "could" happen. I know that no matter how prepared we are it is going to hurt for everybody when this system that we ARE all addicted to right now collapses under our feet.

I want to change the system more than anything right now...
But for those of you who believe that our thoughts manifest into reality then I feel like it is pointless to point out all these horrible possabilites. I am not saying that all of them are not relevant to post...

But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy....

Then look at all the predictions and false theories that have been posted that we have wasted our thought on....

I just feel like we need to laugh and love a little more... maybe throw a party.. while we can!!
you are posting a very negative vibe yourself. people are here to get info that is hard to find elsewhere. the info is given to provide self-empowerment in a society which is set up to do the opposite. if you haven't noticed the entire world is changing drastically and people are exchanging ideas and info to be better PREPARED. if you find postings too "negative", well no one is making you stay on this forum and "waste" time as you've inferred.

[Orion Morris]

it was a releif to read your post of how people are excited of whats to com.... i also couldnt understand...how anyone could be so excited ....

.id just writtten to my brother a few days a go to say,,, the very people that are excited... when it comes to the reality...
will be the 1st to bend on their knees and BEGGGG to be sent back to the subliminal devil we already know...and live his world,again....
rather than face and witness the inevitable, torturouse,beyond anything we could imagine... reality ahead b4 the final new world order....our souls and hearts will be torn shredded at what suffering we will witness, even if we make it through...not forgetting how broken we would be.
its real sad

[Orion Morris]

that last post was a comment I recieved in my personal messages
I did not mean to post it just now


we have different views.. I understand that and I do not expect everybody to agree with eachother..

that is a good thing..

however, I have received alot of positive feedback for that post and I do not regret it.

people were feeling overwhelmed with the thought of having to watch their children starve, and that is not the thought that I wanted to see spread..
I just felt disgusted that people were excited to see people loose their homes.. I am talking about your neighbor who lives next door, who doesn’t know what is going on.... I am feeling for his children... I am not excited to watch the streets erupt into chaos..

lets hope it doesnt happen..

[historycircus]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.


No, you didn't start this thread to bad mouth one particular person, you started it to bad-mouth the forum - see your words above. You started this thread to bad-mouth those who take preparation seriously - see your words above.

"With your light sabre," please. Grow up.

[Sarahmay]

No, you didn't start this thread to bad mouth one particular person, you started it to bad-mouth the forum - see your words above. You started this thread to bad-mouth those who take preparation seriously - see your words above.

I agree with Orion Morris that the glee that some of you are taking at the prospect of the collapse of society is mean spirited and very negative. That is not to say that the coming changes are unnecessary, or that we are not preparing. I AM preparing, I'm just not celebrating because I have a beautiful life now. And I'm not looking forward to seeing innocent people suffer.

[historycircus]

"I didnt want you to think that I was meaning the fourm itself...

I was meaning the messages that were being posted..
particularly the october 7th run for your life threads...

if you want to argue you with me then we can do it privatley to try and keep some intregrity left on the thread....

you also never answered my question
WHAT are YOU going to do to keep us safe in times of violence....

I responded to your other post with respect...
then you quote the OM and try to make me look like I was trying to sabitoge the fourm

from your message box this doesnt look like the first time you have attacked somebody."

I am struggling to find that integrity you speak of. When you publicly disagree with someone here it must be enlightened philosophy. When someone disagrees with you, it is an attack.

I am making preparations for food, relocation, defense, etc., for a minimum of ten people - my family and picking up folks along the way. I can't save everyone, or "save" anyone, but I can be prepared.

And "glee" is not part of the equation.

[Orion Morris]

Historycircus

I told you that if you want to argue with me we can do it private..

Then you go and post my private message to you publicly on the thread...

Thank you... that was very respectful...

I am not perfect... and I am not even close to one of the smartest people on this fourm.. I am probably not even as smart as you historycircus.. I run on emotions alot of the time, and I am aware that it is hard to keep a strait head when your thinking with your heart...

honestley you have offended me...

The only reason i started the thread was because I was feeling afraid for the people I love.. I didnt want to think about everybody dying anymore...

[Sarahmay]

"And "glee" is not part of the equation.

I was referring to this thread yesterday, plenty of glee there about the coming destruction:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4432

[Mike_Jetson]

A financial collapse doesnt mean watching kids starve to death. Sarah I just hope the next 12 months you get yourself ready because the system will come down and the longer you wait the harder we fall. whether it takes 6 months or three years.

But yeah orion you prob read my lengthy reply on page 2. i used to get overwhelmed trying to take in as much knowledge as possible to try and see the future. thats the problem, we all want to see the future so we look to people with more experience and hope they can guide us but its down to us to prepare and learn and not get caught up in the commotion.

Private messages being posted on the forum isnt a good look I agree

[historycircus]

Sarahmay,

I read the OM and first couple of posts on the thread you referenced, and I have to say, I fail to see the glee about destruction.

I think where the confusion lies is that we all know what is going to happen in terms of destruction and chaos if the system crashes. That is not what is exciting. What is exciting is that if the system crashes, we will finally have the opportunity to live lives outside of the paradigm that has been fed to us from cradle to grave, not for our well-being, but for the treasuries of governments and bank accounts of the wealthy. Here is a question a I have posted before: is there really any difference between the chaotic unorganized death and destruction engendered by the collapse of the system, or the orderly, well choreographed death and destruction upon which the system operates? No one is celebrating the potential horrors that collapse will bring, they are celebrating the potential for freedom.

[Sarahmay]

"i,m really looking forward to this crash......let the adventure begin.....!!!!!!! wahooo......althentic life here we come ....!!!!! less talking and more crashing.......for me it´s a releaf not a scare........can i get an amen brothers and sisters.....
peace out......the force is within you !!!!!!"

This is a direct quote from the first post of the thread. Sounds like glee to me.

Once again, I think changes are necessary. I am prepared. I just don't think we need to act like giddy 12 year old boys playing war games--it is serious, it is painful, it is grave.

[beanny]

thanks orion for posting my shared view.... whow, you aint half receiving some aggressive backfire for trying to place an extremely valid point.....
and yes, it is more frightening than watching the news... but so will it be with whats to come... so for all those positive thinkers with higher vibration, expecting to rise above the inevitable......cause and effect.....

the world is created on the number 2 , 1 and 1 cause and effect
i wonder how positive we will feell if we are saved through higher vibration....and no karma to have too deal with, as if, yet wittnessing around us,,, care free maybe....unbeleivable traumatic,karmas unfolding

surely... positive thinkers are still human and imperfect....and have done much wrong, in this life/past...else face it....these souls wouldnt be here.....

allow me to try relay my points.... if i bimbled along this life with thaughts and hopes of what to come..totally positive...and good to people......yet 2 lives ago, i murdered my neighbour.....but hadnt yet paid my debt...nothing gona avoid my having to..
.i may have that to pay in these soulcleansing times to come....i may been that murdered neighbour in the last life, and this life....even have to be the partner of a victim to learn the suffering caused to those left behind...and watch the trauma unfolding in my children, ripple effect, etc
ripple effect etc ripple effect etc,and plenty more for all others affected by the loss i creaTEDin last/other life.....
and thaT May only be one of many many karmic debts to pay

thats not negative but an reality example to make a point. we have all managed to hurt feelings in deep ways even unnoticed...
you cant be a soul in a human form and avoid it....
sometimes we cause pain so very deeeeeeep that it goes deeeper than the pain of loss/death
.
so... PTs...Positive thinkers....when you have to face your personal karmas in the coming soul cleansing events....
we cant avoid our karma no matter what preparation we make wether material or vibrational.....how positive might you all be then.....there is no positive without a negative.... else it wouldnt be called positive ...an opposite

[beanny]

jet1980....i do beleive you totally missed orions point......
orion appears to have made the point that he/she glad that the **** hasnt hit the pan just yet, and2b able go home to the security of a familiar day of peace for at least one more day in this life
exactly because ,of that, whats inevitable to come.....
not so?
thats barely hypocritical

if any of you r sadists then you may be sorry the breakdowns not in our faces yet
u appear to have cririsized someone who is reacting human and with heart...(not many left in this world)

[azul]

historycircus

I agree with you!
I'm with you!

Strong hug and peace

[Orion Morris]

beanny...Thank you from the deepest part of me... I appreciate your understanding greatley... I hope you can feel the love I have for you... I really needed that... glad you understand!

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

lets get ready to be free.. as long as we can that is.. they pressed the start button the game 7th in uk. hope we are all ready to play.. :)

[feeler]

Let's not forget the origins of this site either; a site spawned by the testimony of hard core researchers and new age sooth sayers who painted pictures of a present and possible futures that include alien abduction and experimentation, galactic wars, underground reptilian people eaters, shadow government plans for unbiased holocaust, choreographed warfare, nuclear winter, mass starvation, global pandemics, and list goes on and on. I'll even take you folks who believe that if we here don't think about such things, they won't happen. Have you watched the news or opened a newspaper lately? Have you seen your 401k or your parents' 401k drop by half or two thirds over the last two weeks? Have you seen the car bombs in Iraq and foods riots in Haiti? Have you noticed teenagers beating homeless guys to death for fun, or the rising rates of child abandonment in the U.S. and the Western world? The "wish it away" approach is not working - the nasty stuff posited by the "doom" crowd is manifesting right before our eyes.

And here is the rub: despite what some of you insinuate, it is not the "doom" crowds fault for merely thinking about it.



Very good summary historycircus. I always think recognizing a problem is the first step of solving an existing issue.

I started my quest for the truth when something terribly wrong happened.

Will it happen again?
Who's behind it?
Who's still at large?

When two skyscrapers got pulverized by particle weapons and resulted in the death of 3000 civilians, something is wrong.

When no national database exists to keep track of our missing children, something is wrong.

When those who were vacinated in S.F. started to develop AIDS, something is wrong.

Fear or no fear, I cannot put my head in the sand. I'd rather discuss what really happened and what will happen based on past events.

[SoldierOfTruth808]

Personally I think this entire board has gone to *****. Most of the authorities and insiders have turned tail because they just get questioned and badgered. There are unrealistic peace supporters who appear to be so sheltered that I do believe they will sit on the beach and meditate as a tidal wave comes in hopes that they can change its course. There are arrogant people who think their ideas and research tower all others, who simply bash down everyone else and engage in pages upon pages of circular debate. There are people who are listening to what sources like Bill Deagle have to say and rather than researching and finding truth for themselves, are out loud bashing the information given and measuring it up against someones info who they identify with more, and yet other people who when someone comes about and says something that they can take a bite out of, simply say something like "yeah thats great!" "Wow I really believe that!" "Oh wow thanks for saying that!"

Honestly, just take life as it comes. Ive given up on taking part in conversations here because it just seems pointless. Ive learned more from my own studies then I EVER did on this forum. All I get here are threads that confirm and disprove infromation at the samn damn time. Proving over all that none of us know a **** about **** and rather than taking a vigilant position or a students stance, many of us rather throw up on each other and say "Here look at what I ate its better and more real than whatever that ***** was that you ate."

On the other side of the coin there are some genuinely even minded and informative people on here. Good luck to you guys, and IF and WHEN the **** hits the fan, I hope I run into you so we can begin a working community for the future.

Am I judging you?... Hell yeah I am! Because for a while now ive stopped posting and took a 3rd party stance and just listened to all the **** instead of contributing to it. Strike back at what ive said if you will, but it wont matter. I believe people are like the ends batteries and whatever energy runs between the two ends of the battery will be perpetuated, in effect whatever you say I wont respond because im over this, youll be wasting your precious brain power. Id rather go back to just watching the interviews and updates on camelot and using my intution to learn from people who I know have more understanding about certain situations than I do. I am aware that certain situations will happen, and im aware of myself and that I will act as is necissary to survive and help others around me survive and thats MY bottom line.

EMPTY YOUR CUPS,
Roland K.

[Mike_Jetson]

Anyone who wants to see change without suffering should take a look at what we've done to other countries over the years for our interests.

The amount of death and suffering we have caused by bringing down other peoples economies. Fair enough I may be looking forward to massive changes which the start of which could be a financial crash, nobody is looking forward to our own suffering but im almost sick to death of saying it, HOW do you rebuild something that is not broken? It MUST be broken.

just because we are supposed to be the in the safe developed world does not mean we have a right for the world to change around our best wishes

[Orion Morris]

it

the very people that are excited... when it comes to the reality...
will be the 1st to bend on their knees and BEGGGG to be sent back to the subliminal devil we already know...and live his world,again....
rather than face and witness the inevitable, torturouse,beyond anything we could imagine... reality ahead b4 the final new world order....our souls and hearts will be torn shredded at what suffering we will witness, even if we make it through...not forgetting how broken we would be.
its real sad

Another thing that we all could be facing is ending up in concentration camps.
Have any of you ever been to jail?
I do not think that anybody who has been incarcerated would reccomend ever looking forward to that feeling again.

[Orion Morris]

Anyone who wants to see change without suffering should take a look at what we've done to other countries over the years for our interests.

The amount of death and suffering we have caused by bringing down other peoples economies. Fair enough I may be looking forward to massive changes which the start of which could be a financial crash, nobody is looking forward to our own suffering but im almost sick to death of saying it, HOW do you rebuild something that is not broken? It MUST be broken.

just because we are supposed to be the in the safe developed world does not mean we have a right for the world to change around our best wishes


Mike... I think that is well put.. and a good point

[Orion11]

seems like alot of you are taking Orions post personally....

why? maybe because your the ones starting numerous DOOMY threads and creating more fear than there was to begin with!!!!

as someone else said.. just sit back and watch what is posted here.. it is unreal.

I understand we all like to be prepared, and learn as much as possible...as do I.....

but my god man...... how you deal with it will make all the difference in the world!
(and no im not going to sit and meditate a tidal wave gone) lol

if you like to feel doomy and want to crawl into a hole, go on ahead.... 'well come and get you out once the storm passes. lol

but its pretty sad when you go through a list of 30 threads...
and its all ****!! pardon me for being so frank.. but c'mon.

it takes quite a bit of "doomyness" to make me feel uneasy..... and i get that plenty from the junk that goes on in the world.... but you folks bring it to a whole nother level!!!

its almost like........ " oh hey, you feelin too good? wanna feel like ****? go check out this forum, youll be there in minutes" lol.. sad but true....

allot of you took this thread the wrong way.
glad to see some ppl understood.

relax, but be aware and ready...
and BREATHE!!


again, cheers Orion.

[Orion Morris]

Thank you orion...much appreciated...
hope you can feel the love I have for you

[Circlewerk]

Does it feel sociopath to be neutral about all of this?
All the labels, all the points of view..
As if there is a better or more powerful perspective to have.
Both "sides" amount to emotion formed from thoughts, impressed upon you from definitions, creating a conditioned response that still divides.

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

I watch, read, research, remember, listen, hear, see...
And I have an option to form an opinion based on all of what is presented.
Personally, I find my truth minimized when i think i have to take a side.
I no longer allow the inevitable flow of life, when I think in terms of choosing a side.

Allow.

I know I prefer to feel good. How can I feel good, when I focus on anything and label it catastrophe?
All of this is nothing, it is a rhythm, a river, a flow.
If I am against something, anything, I am basically like a river who stops to argue with a rock that has been thrown into my body of life.

It is my responsibility to detach from the labels that cause me to think I know what's best for mankind.
I know what I prefer, but it is self-righteous to think my preference would be best for all of mankind.
Or that my preference is solid and eternal.
When I allow all of this, without the trepidation of fear (attachment), I am free.
When my lower vibrational thoughts restrict my connection to all of you, ALL of you, I have forgotten that death does not exist and division is an illusion.

I don't have to fight against anything or anyone to reach my potential.
I simply have to allow for co-existence to take place and appreciate that life is filled with contrast.
I experience all of this, and I know my power has nothing to do with a choice, this skin, or all the the limitations that labels provide when I think they are real.
I am neutral, unconditional and I reserve the right to love the entire experience, knowing, that what i think I know, has it's roots in the illusion as well.
What resonates today, may be antiquated tomorrow.
As grateful as I am to experience this, the experience can be thwarted by the idea that right and wrong have anything to do with it.
I would be lessening my experience, if I was against any of it.
I'm ready for whatever happens, and I will continue to flow because that is the nature of energy.
I Allow all of this. I am love.
Unconditional.

[Orion11]

Circlewerk~ thanks for that. very very nice.
(inserts *deep bow* smiley here) lol
:wub2:

Orion~ :wub2: back atcha bro.

Cherish your vision;
Cherish your ideals;
Cherish the music
that stirs in your heart,
The beauty
that forms in your mind,
The loveliness that drapes
your purest thoughts.
If you remain true to them,
Your world
will at last be built by them.

James Allen

[One 66]

Orion Morris,

I like all that you wrote. I for one am not worried about some crazy dissaster happening or chaos blowing up in all our faces. And if something does happen, I'll deal with it then when it happens. All I know right now is, life is good no matter what.

One 66

[MMe M]

jet1980....i do beleive you totally missed orions point......
orion appears to have made the point that he/she glad that the **** hasnt hit the pan just yet, and2b able go home to the security of a familiar day of peace for at least one more day in this life
exactly because ,of that, whats inevitable to come.....
not so?
thats barely hypocritical

if any of you r sadists then you may be sorry the breakdowns not in our faces yet
u appear to have cririsized someone who is reacting human and with heart...(not many left in this world)

But of course im a sadist. Ever so talented at it btw.

I see no evidence of truth in the post. Only dissention.

[MMe M]

There are unrealistic peace supporters who appear to be so sheltered that I do believe they will sit on the beach and meditate as a tidal wave comes in hopes that they can change its course.

EMPTY YOUR CUPS,
Roland K.


:roll1::roll1::roll1::roll1::lmao::mfr_omg: :biggrin2:

[traite]

I love my wife, i love my family, i love my friends,i love the cat and i love most of you and i don't even know you. :thumb_yello:
However I am NOT going to let some doommongers **** on my parade. I sleep real well every night of every week :sleep_1:
I eat regularly and poo regularly too. I keep fit and read too much. I have one good vacation a year. All in all I love life.

I think that maybe we shouldnt read into every orifice of news to glean some peanut of evidence that sort of joins up to something that someone or some webbot told us to expect at somepoint or some date as you will probably find something that adds up somewhere at some point. Usually not for the better.

If the end of the world is indeed nigh then why worry? Some people over several websites and books over several years seem to agree that our bodies are merely containers for souls etc and our souls are eternal, so by that reckoning, end of the world? Eternal souls? Something doesnt seem to add up.
I must've missed more than one meeting along the line.
OK rant over, I'm off to a meeting that I have been invited too folks:mad3:
not that I want to go to this one anyway:sneaky2:

P.S

What the hell is the Galatic Federation of Light:shocked:
Am I the only one who ain':smoke:t the right stuff?:mad3:

Get thee to a coffee perculator fast

[LoveLight]

...on October 7th ...I celebrated a WONDERFUL BIRTHDAY . . . WOW . . . never before have so many wondrous souls "anticipated" My Birthday...and I kindly THANK YOU from the bottom of my Rocky Road Ice Cream cake.... it was yummy! :wink2:

Live in this Moment right now...tis the ONLY one you are guaranteed!

PEACE begins with You and In Your Heart!

Bright Blessings!
courtland

[Anchor]

I do believe they will sit on the beach and meditate as a tidal wave comes in hopes that they can change its course.

Done correctly, such a wave would part and travel round them.

A..

[Average Joe]

Not wanting to pour scorn but I bet it wouldn't.

Having said that, Moses parted the red sea. So they say.

[alternative-answer]

At last someone being real and reacting from fear. If you allow fear to control you then you are equally part of the whole messed up world because you keep it all going and this is exactly why we are where we are today, because people allow themsleves to be caught up in the illusion, that this is happening to me. When we react out of fear we are controlable, we need to react from a different place, LOVE

[Racsouran]

equilibrium is my way, neutrality. Is my appearance wich doesnt matters. I will never preach positivity, i will say what i have to say, good , bad, or ****.

Positive things are to be enjoyed, love is to be done, hope is to be felt.

None of those means anything when preached, when wasted the time on talking about them.

It seems that here, like near anywhere else, spiritual appearance and or status to be mantained to be shown to others matters more than truth itself.

How strong we will be?. I see good intentions, good ideas, good initiatives; but i see very few inner strength in comparison.

[colesmommy1117]

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!



it's my opinion that people can write however they feel whenever they feel the need. if you don't like what they are saying, voice your opinion on that or just click on another link. FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

[MMe M]

Done correctly, such a wave would part and travel round them.

A..

Dude, im not taking credit for writing that gem tho id love to and do share the sentiment. Its Rolland K.s origional post and I am still laughing out loud at my cp everythime I re-read it! OMFG, Hillarious!!!

I mean, that bit he wrote is classic and now I dont see his post here. :( His whole comment was valid and now he has dissapeared.

[Vianova]

This is a good thread.

All that Hocus Bogus **** with Deagle
and his Project Camelot interview was an organized distraction finely timed with the global banking voodoo.


Deagle is a Voodoo Doll with pins pointed out.
Don't touch the Voodoo doll.



You want spiritual?
Go to the Nature's Points of Power and meditate.
Express Gratitude, and Experience Ecstatic Joy,
Communicate Compassion to the Stars,
That is what I do.
Hidden Lake Peak Lookout cabin in the distance.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/elvis-boletus/hlp2a.jpg





The Top of the Mountain
invokes a feeling of freedom
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/elvis-boletus/hlp1.jpg




It only looks like a long way to the top,
Just Do It
[trail to mountain top of image 2]
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/elvis-boletus/hlp2.jpg




Nothing is Easy

:cheers:

[Pomguymguy]

A massive learning curve occuring at Avalon and Camelot. Downloading all this information into our 'computer hard drive' (brain)
There are only two basic emotions, FEAR or UNCONDITIONAL LOVE - when you break it all down.
The overall picture of the situation we all find ourselves in here = the immence focus that something BIG is going down on planet Earth. There is this gradual build up of enlightened energy from 6 billion + souls as they awaken from inside this holographic dream state, that has been so manipulated to enslave us in a web of deceit.

Trying to sort this all out in our dumbed down state amongst the quagmire of disinformation is "difficult" It seems so many are looking for tangible proof of "something" and latch onto any coat-tail that passes - that might offer hope and then ultimately prove it is ALL TRUE :shocked:

:wall: Keep LOVE in your hearts and the wall will soon fall over - job done !

[Metamike]

I have not yet taken the time to read all the messages in this forum. I do have a response to the original poster and here it is:

The process of change between now and "then" - when ever it may be for each of us will undoubtedly involve the continuation of learning spiritual lessons. For those of us who happen to be better informed and prepared it would be wise to consider the fact that laughing about the fact that the economy is crashing, or climate changing, or whatever, will not gain you much rapport or respect with the greater community. You just might get stomped on as a result. Most all of us are going through some serious changes and knowing about the big picture can only partially alleviate the tensions that are a part of what is happening. No body really knows what will happen and it is a part of human nature to preserve out ability to have as few surprises about the future as possible.

Our neighbors and friends who do not have the privilege of being aware of what is going on - even though that is a spiritual choice - will still have a greater tendency to be curious as to your state if and only if you show true empathy and concern for others considerations. I am not saying you need to take care of everybody and save the world. I am saying that we all need to behave more or less like the stewards on the plane that is going down. The stewards do not laugh and take a last cool one on the way. They do what they can to contribute whatever they can in a positive way. This, i believe, is the true nature of the ground crew.
with all respects
Metamike from Norway

[Pomguymguy]

I have not yet taken the time to read all the messages in this forum. I do have a response to the original poster and here it is:

The process of change between now and "then" - when ever it may be for each of us will undoubtedly involve the continuation of learning spiritual lessons. For those of us who happen to be better informed and prepared it would be wise to consider the fact that laughing about the fact that the economy is crashing, or climate changing, or whatever, will not gain you much rapport or respect with the greater community. You just might get stomped on as a result. Most all of us are going through some serious changes and knowing about the big picture can only partially alleviate the tensions that are a part of what is happening. No body really knows what will happen and it is a part of human nature to preserve out ability to have as few surprises about the future as possible.

Our neighbors and friends who do not have the privilege of being aware of what is going on - even though that is a spiritual choice - will still have a greater tendency to be curious as to your state if and only if you show true empathy and concern for others considerations. I am not saying you need to take care of everybody and save the world. I am saying that we all need to behave more or less like the stewards on the plane that is going down. The stewards do not laugh and take a last cool one on the way. They do what they can to contribute whatever they can in a positive way. This, i believe, is the true nature of the ground crew.
with all respects
Metamike from Norway


Spot -On Metamike :thumb_yello:

[MMe M]

A massive learning curve occuring at Avalon and Camelot. Downloading all this information into our 'computer hard drive' (brain)
There are only two basic emotions, FEAR or UNCONDITIONAL LOVE - when you break it all down.
The overall picture of the situation we all find ourselves in here = the immence focus that something BIG is going down on planet Earth. There is this gradual build up of enlightened energy from 6 billion + souls as they awaken from inside this holographic dream state, that has been so manipulated to enslave us in a web of deceit.

Trying to sort this all out in our dumbed down state amongst the quagmire of disinformation is "difficult" It seems so many are looking for tangible proof of "something" and latch onto any coat-tail that passes - that might offer hope and then ultimately prove it is ALL TRUE :shocked:

:wall: Keep LOVE in your hearts and the wall will soon fall over - job done !



Unconditional love comes only from dogs, not humans. We are not so evolved.

[Vianova]

It is absolutely bizarre and bogus
that a crystal skull thread in Project Avalon forum
would be dumped by the moderators here
into the
"Off Topic" section to die.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

I am starting to understand the grievances
represented in this thread.

Who is the moderator tonite?

Shemp?

How does the Crystal Skull thread deviate from
the core Project Avalon concept in any way different than...
when you have threads like:

Anyone Not Seeing Chemtrails

The Blue Eyed Blonde aliens

George Bush for Murder

Obama will be tested

I am not trying to cause trouble,
but this is bizarre ... odd censorship
for no apparent reason fathomable.

[Carol]

It is absolutely bizarre and bogus
that a crystal skull thread in Project Avalon forum
would be dumped by the moderators here
into the
"Off Topic" section to die.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

I am starting to understand the grievances
represented in this thread.

Who is the moderator tonite?

Shemp?

How does the Crystal Skull thread deviate from
the core Project Avalon concept in any way different than...
when you have threads like:

Anyone Not Seeing Chemtrails

The Blue Eyed Blonde aliens

George Bush for Murder

Obama will be tested

I am not trying to cause trouble,
but this is bizarre ... odd censorship
for no apparent reason fathomable.

Hi Vianova,

I'm going through the Avalon General section and moving all threads that do not belong.

Where do you suggest the Crystal Thread would fit best? I'd be happy to sort it out where you think it would get the attention it deserves.

Carol

[SoulSuspect]

Indian Jones and the Crystal Skull was a horrible movie except for the ending thats why, plus One gets to feel powerful when he or she censors another.


God is an Alien...Peace

[dayzero]

>

[Vianova]

Hi Vianova,

I'm going through the Avalon General section and moving all threads that do not belong.

Where do you suggest the Crystal Thread would fit best? I'd be happy to sort it out where you think it would get the attention it deserves.

Carol



It fit best right where it was.
It had no Bad Intent,
and the thread was verging on being informative,
or it would have simply flowed away down the ladder of many posts.

the dumping of threads to Project Camelot
is understandable in some instances,
but is bizarre especially in the vein of the threads
I pointed out in my complaint post.

How is:
Blue Eyed Blonde Aliens
spiritually superior
in content to the discussion
of the famous Crystal Skulls?

It is inevitably involving Nazi Vril.--->:welcomeani:

If anything belongs at PC ... that does,
and it can be cataloged later with the
Project Serpo hoax.

:lol3:


Crystal Skulls are the basis for a huge genre
of spiritual focus amongst many groups.

Certain skulls have been displayed at SW Indian
gatherings.

This forum is your baby Mak,
so you want a suggestion?
Don't put the threads in OFF TOPIC,
just at least start them over at the top in PC.

Unfortunately there already is a thread at PC on the Skulls, so there would be two of them.

Therefore I submit to you that people at project avalon wanted to discuss it here,
not there.

[Humble Janitor]

It's not a good idea to single out an entire forum for the sins of a few.