Scary martial law false flag operations in usa exposed!!!!!! [Archive]

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 01:39 AM

Lets give a AWARD to eXchanger for being a Professional Fearmonger ..

:tongue2:

if you do NOT think there are troops
other than usa ones
in the usa -- i think you might want to think again

how many mexicans, do you think would do almost
anything to come to america

what about the canada/usa/mexico
merger, do you think that is a joke too ???

what about the euro people coming to try
to get canada into the EU ???

you also might be surprised
that is war is way beyond
the 3D you think, you are currently seeing

i think what shocks me most
is the USA, can go around attacking everyone else
and, actually think,
that they will NEVER get attacked ???

it is time for all the nonsense to end !!!

when will the inner circles, turn on themselves ???

or, when will the inner circle,
turn outward and walk away ???

how can just a very few,
think they can control us ALL

something is really rotten

perhaps, we should all start printing our own money,
and, quit using theirs !!!

now, that is a good idea :original:

there ought to be a lot of really mad people
who are losing their shirts,
i am NOT so sure,
they will take this all laying down!!!

what confuses me the most,
is this boat has been going down for a long time

it might be easier to control them
or topple them,
if there was just one government ...
instead of all the wars between all the assortment
of countries / however, i am kind of proud to be a canadian

getting swallowed up by some AMERO,
sure doesn't sit to well with me

i think many of us,
better open up more than our eyes
and, do it rather quickly

what is the real solution ???

susan
the eXchanger
+ [xxx

tonyotag

10-11-2008, 02:27 AM

The corner in Nebraska is probably Hastings, ND.

Although their pentagram is not complete, it may take another four years to complete!... That would mean 2012 is the compleation deadline, we must try to stop it from happeing, hinder their deadline or destroy the deadline before it is met.

I picked four years from today because it is obvious that they need to cordnate attacks before the attacks happen.

What about the point out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, it might be east of Tampico and north of Veracruz, Mexico.

For Alabama, it might be in the facinity of I-65 south of Montgomery and Mobile, (both in Alabama.)

Missorri, it will be around Springfield.

Hopefully we are only talking about a coinesdience. But if this is true, then the south is in toubble! The areas that I am picking are areas shown in the vidoe's pentagram. on google earth.

tonyotag

Magii

10-11-2008, 02:38 AM

if you do NOT think there are troops
other than usa ones
in the usa -- i think you might want to think again

how many mexicans, do you think would do almost
anything to come to america

SO do you find .. spreading false videos around with DOOM + Gloom helping the cause?

A Quote from a wiseman "People can revolt all they want and accomplish nothing because few agree on what the problems are. The instigators have no idea why they do what they do either, it just seemed the thing to do at that time. "

skyrimirre

10-11-2008, 02:54 AM

Magii

10-11-2008, 03:19 AM

I think you can spread information in order to raise awareness without being called a fearmonger. Negativity like this is what keeps everyone silent
when in fact, those who are the fearmongers are moving up their plans. Why shouldn't we the targets, more or less, let others know what is up? That is a grand part of the purpose of this forum. I would say you are fearmongering Magii because you promote not spreading the word when you do ostrich & then think everyone else should too.

If there was a VALID THREAT or a story which isnt BS -- i wouldnt call this person a Fearmonger --

But when you are spreading the ABOVE VIDEOS. . to WHICH .. anyone in there right mind .. can see they are of "fearmongering" purpose ...

You have to call it out as it is ..

This isnt a Group think .. were everyone is suppose to agree

And NO IM not gonna spread wild, crazy, videos .. that are NOT VALID and are drummed up to cause fear...

Argante

10-11-2008, 03:21 AM

That first video was freaky the way it connected all the tragedies into a pentagram, and Masonic symbol. It was a very interesting video.

Thanks for posting it Susan.

Buchanan561

10-11-2008, 03:42 AM

I think most of us know about these videos and have seen them sometime or another in the past. However, please remember, there are hundreds or perhaps many more, people who browse and read these forums who never post. These are people of whom many do not know anything much about the material that is out there that they need to know, and the only exposure they may have to this information may be through forums such as this.

Please do not try and criticize eXchanger for trying to provide this material and information for them to see and learn. These posts are not made just for the 'members' of this forum but for the many who drift through that know nothing about, but we do want to reach and educate. If that means showing things that could be fearful to some, so be it. Better than leaving them in the dark. Thanks for the videos Susan, it is appreciated.

dolphin

10-11-2008, 03:46 AM

MILITARY FOREIGN TROOPS IN AMERICA WILL KILL U.S CITIZEN !!!!

13th of the month

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc2vYp7Sjpg&feature=related

i know exchanger, i saw those before. it is f..... scary. btw folks. just bec. people are giving info, does not mean they are a FEAR MONGERER! it's like being on the titanic and discovering a leak and trying to warn people. why attack the messenger!

Heretic

10-11-2008, 03:46 AM

information is neither positive nor negative

you define its fearfulness through your beliefs alone

Magii

10-11-2008, 03:51 AM

information is neither positive nor negative

you define its fearfulness through your beliefs alone

True -- with this statement .. every thread / post is exactly the same

:mfr_lol:

Magii

10-11-2008, 03:57 AM

i know exchanger, i saw those before. it is f..... scary. btw folks. just bec. people are giving info, does not mean they are a FEAR MONGERER! it's like being on the titanic and discovering a leak and trying to warn people. why attack the messenger!

Using your analogy --

Let say .. there is NO LEAK on the Titanic .. and u have people spreading the rumor there is ... to which causes a panic. ..

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 04:04 AM

- Using your analogy --

Let say .. there is NO LEAK on the Titanic .. and u have people spreading the rumor there is ... to which causes a panic. ..

ironically you mention the titanic...
which was the 1st type of 9-11 of the 20th century

it was NOT the titanic that was sunk

but, the sister ship that went down !!!

and, also the casket of The High Priestess Amen-Ra
was on board, it had a curse attached to it
quite a number of interesting things happened
to the 4 guys who pulled straws to get it

it also is a fact
that most of the 1st class passengers
conveniently missed the trip

and; the owner of the boat
was off, having fun in france
with his mistress

SHOCKING...
well, so be it,
we are in SHOCKING TIMES
we have been trying to awaken many
for a very long time !!!

truth can really suck !!!

i still predict,
that inner circles will turn on the inner core
and, that inner circles will also turn the cheek
and, walk away real soon

if the boat has NO crew,
and, bad weather sets it,
it sinks

we "the people" are NOT letting our boats go down !!!

as for them, i hope they sink, and, can NOT swim

it is important to look at the patterns

as, it predicts the future

and, knowing that, we can stop that !!!

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 04:11 AM

if you think is about FEAR
that i posted it, think again

i operate in the mode of LOVE !!!

WHEN WE TOLD MANY PEOPLE
12 years ago,
8 years ago,
4 years ago,
TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE
NONE OF THEM DID IT

NOW, LOOK at the set of clowns you have in congress !!!

we need to adjust these eXchanges !!!

"the people" who represent "the people"
are a very poor reflection,
of who the "real" people are

the formations; are absolutely fascinating

it's like the **** they put on all the dollar bills

they put what they did, right on the money

if you haven't seen that

look here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC71TjXb05w&feature=related

it so obvious, they hide it right out in the open !!!
+ xxx

Magii

10-11-2008, 04:11 AM

:wink2:

"""The Boy Who Cried Wolf"""

HUMANCARGO

10-11-2008, 04:17 AM

lets imagine that magii, if we see there is no real leak or crack is after careful investigation, the info exchanger gave here is for u or i to investigate not to take at face value, besides if the leak is found not to exist then everybody is safe on the boat, yes lets not rush and jumping out to the sea right away, but lets see if xchanger has validity on a staement she made based on someoneelses info about an incident soon to happen(may happen),perhaps we should not critizise someone who is relaying information but should make us become investigators, maguii, do u have other infoto disprove or contend exchanger? if u r afraid then is because soemthing inside tells u u can not handle it, fear is spread only when a receptor feels it. like when someone says the white man was the cause of the blacks enslavement in the past, do u feel u have anything to do with that? if we are not part of the solution then we r not part of the
cause? just a thought

TranceAm

10-11-2008, 04:23 AM

ironically you mention the titanic...
which was the 1st type of 9-11 of the 20th century

it was NOT the titanic that was sunk

but, the sister ship that went down !!!

and, also the casket of The High Priestess Amen-Ra
was on board, it had a curse attached to it
quite a number of interesting things happened
to the 4 guys who pulled straws to get it

it also is a fact
that most of the 1st class passengers
conveniently missed the trip

and; the owner of the boat
was off, having fun in france
with his mistress

SHOCKING...
well, so be it,
we are in SHOCKING TIMES
we have been trying to awaken many
for a very long time !!!

truth can really suck !!!

Hmmm, "Trance"... I considered replying but thought nah, but then you insisted and rang m'lady: ;-)

Let me add to your Titanic story.
1st Bankers:
This link blames the Jesuits, (I have no idea whether that is true, This is about the bankers of the USA before the FEDS and the FEDS as we know them now.)
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/titanic.htm

There were a number of very rich and powerful men who made it abundantly clear that they were not in favor of the Federal Reserve System. J.P. Morgan was ordered by the Jesuits to build the Titanic. This ‘unsinkable’ ship would serve as the death ship for those who opposed the Jesuits’ plan for a Federal Reserve system. These rich and powerful men would have been able to block the establishment of the Federal Reserve, and their power and fortunes had to be taken out of their hands. They had to be destroyed by a means so preposterous that no one would suspect that they were murdered, and no one would suspect the Jesuits. The Titanic was the vehicle of their destruction. In order to further shield the papacy and the Jesuits from suspicion, many Irish, French, and Italian Roman Catholics immigrating to the New World were aboard. They were people who were expendable. Protestants from Belfast who wanted to immigrate to the United States were also invited on board.

Even the faithful and good Roman Catholic people were betrayed by the Jesuits. Irish, French and Italian Roman Catholics aboard Titanic ship perished in the middle of the cold water of the Atlantic Ocean.

All the wealthy and powerful men the Jesuits wanted to get rid of were invited to take the cruise. Three of the richest and most important of these were Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Strauss, the head of Macy’s Department Stores, and John Jacob Astor, probably the wealthiest man in the world. Their total wealth, at that time, using dollar values of their day was more than 500 million dollars. Today that amount of money would be worth nearly eleven billion dollars. These three men were coaxed and encouraged to board the floating palace. They had to be destroyed because the Jesuits knew they would use their wealth and influence to oppose a Federal Reserve Bank as well as the various wars that were being planned.

Further more,

2 Out of the box.
The captain probably learned to sail on a wooden tub, and tried to save the Titanic (If he did???) like he would have tried to save a wooden ship.. Trying to avoid the collision.
HOWEVER, for an out of the box thinker, KNOWING the strength of the ship, what he should have done, (AND this makes it OUT OF THE BOX, of common thought of that DAY.) is:

HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE ICEBERG HEAD ON. Dent the bow of the ship considerably, but only flood a couple of compartments in the front and maybe spill a couple of desert over passengers or bruise them... Instead of slicing the whole side of the ship open.

At least, knowing the strengths of the ship, with the compartmentalized structure, that is what >I< would have done, it may have failed also, but looks like a much better attempt to use the technology and the claims from that time available.

Magii

10-11-2008, 04:25 AM

TranceAm

10-11-2008, 04:27 AM

:wink2:

"""The Boy Who Cried Wolf"""

Was RIGHT on the mark ONE time.

That is not bad for a prophesy.......

And secondly, it is not bad to save someone elses life, but upfront your information or "imagined" information has to save your own life... (To give you a clue, I would have never died in the Columbia. All other Space shuttle remaining after the Challenger, I would fly, but not the Columbia.)

Its like first aid at an accident scene..
First your own life, then the person you are trying to save.

"MILITARY FOREIGN TROOPS IN AMERICA WILL KILL U.S CITIZEN !!!!

13th of the month""

Interesting.. I wonder if they will carry their own body bags. Otherwise they will turn into nice fertalizer.

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 04:31 AM

Titanic-The Ship That Never Sank 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ffgbUCW0es

Titanic-The Ship That Never Sank 2/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ico_-beppME&feature=related

Titanic-The Ship That Never Sank 3/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9goKY4fgc8&feature=related
Titanic-The Ship That Never Sank 4/5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzuFs4xH8Y&feature=related

Titanic-The Ship That Never Sank 5/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TUusWfypRI&feature=related

HUMANCARGO

10-11-2008, 04:38 AM

tu dint answer my question i dont want u to disprove anything, i jst want u to read what i say, for example im not afraid of what she says, y? because i have heard it elsewhere and more than once from different sources i dont necesarily subscribe to it by by a process call time we will come to a better conclusion of the fact, nothing worng with being alerta bout such thinsgs as, the foreign(asian) uniforms that were seen at camp pendelton or long beach wearing black uniforms with yellow trianlgles, nothing worng investigating further what other said a bout train wagons in texas with thousands of shackles in them its just information.....that at the end may save our behind

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 04:38 AM

i didn't give the video it's name ;)

Rebel4Life

10-11-2008, 04:39 AM

Read my post on Martial law solution. I have solutions to the problem :))

Peace~
Rebel4Life

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 04:41 AM

the foreign(asian) uniforms that were seen at camp pendelton or long beach wearing black uniforms with yellow trianlgles, nothing worng investigating further what other said a bout train wagons in texas with thousands of shackles in them its just information.....that at the end may save our behind

surpringly, the other night,
we ran into a "zen" police man --
and, sort of asked him, his opinion of things
(here in canada)
and, surprisingly he said,
that, they have families too,
and, many of them, are paying very close attention,
to what might / or might NOT be trickling down !!!

yup...the inner circles often turn on themselves

that is my prediction-on all this

but, the more knowledge out on the streets
that we are aware of what they are doing,
they are LESS likely to DO iT !!!
+ xxx

HUMANCARGO

10-11-2008, 04:41 AM

there are people here that have such a treasure trove of information and wisdom that i can not begin to say what amazing this stuff and sometimes u get the usual deviator and such i know u mean well, questioning things will get u far, but becoming an investigator will make u bring not only ur crtiticism to the table but also an alternate ****ion to hte dilema

HUMANCARGO

10-11-2008, 04:43 AM

rebel where is that post about martial law,

Soul Sequence

10-11-2008, 04:44 AM

Might find this video interesting

Domestic Military Operations? (talk of foreign troops included near the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvCFhQ18R8&feature=related

Myrddin

10-11-2008, 04:51 AM

Hi Guys

Also check out

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMx2F41XD0

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 04:54 AM

- GOOD MOuRNING AMERICA:
THE DREAM IS OVER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT3wIxdkUsY&feature=related

Ampgod

10-11-2008, 04:55 AM

SCARY MARTIAL LAW FALSE FLAG OPERATIONS IN USA EXPOSED!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBerYdonWaE&feature=related

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

This is BS.
This is human nature at work connecting dots that don't need connecting.

Decide for yourselves.
They marked terrible event locations and made a map that created a star pattern. Here it is. You be the judge.

dolphin

10-11-2008, 05:04 AM

and don't you think the jews would 've appreciated anyone warning them before they were lied to and hauled off on those trains. if this is fear mongering, than so be it. the truth shall set you free!

Magii

10-11-2008, 05:06 AM

and don't you think the jews would 've appreciated anyone warning them before they were lied to and hauled off on those trains. if this is fear mongering, than so be it. the truth shall set you free!

This has nothing to do with the thread -

Go reread my posts - I was very specific on the problem in this thread -

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 05:07 AM

Post Comparison- Bush will Become Dictator,
2008 Elections Canceled

20 towns tired to get B & C impeached !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StUbUgEe1To&feature=related

Magii

10-11-2008, 05:11 AM

Bush will Become Dictator,
2008 Elections Canceled

20 towns tired to get B & C impeached !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StUbUgEe1To&feature=related

Again .. more Disinfo / Fear

--Is there any MODS ?

Why is eXchanger still here to post and post xyz YOUTUBE Videos of DISINFO?

"""Whistleblower Testimony Post anonymous messages of truth or reveal what you know."""

No Truth.. nor is it anything they know .. tsk tsk

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 05:20 AM

Lets give a AWARD to eXchanger for being a Professional Fearmonger ..

:tongue2:

i shall add it to my collection :mfr_lol:

but, you can keep your tongue :trumpet:

after making over 700 posts
that are mostly of substance,
THERE ARE VERY FEW POSTS
i have ever made,
that are related to fear
in fact, most of them,
are eXactly the opposite of that

and, for someone who has a lot to say,
i also have quite a few friends here too

if i did NOT think they were important,
i would NOT have posted them

i would rather be shocked into action,
then, find myself in the action & shocked that i didn't do
something, about what is going on !!!

they can NOT kill me
i am an "original spark"
with my "missing capstone" intact,
and, i have already set a clear intention into
the universe, should something happen to me ...
i can DO a lot more damage,
without my physical body,
than, i can DO with it ...
and, with that said,
so, too, can you !!!

This is a very pivotal time on this planet...
there are very few people, doing a lot for the planet,
i would like to think, that i am one of the few

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 05:27 AM

This has nothing to do with the thread -

Go reread my posts - I was very specific on the problem in this thread -

Dearest Magii :mfr_lol:

it was "me" who started the thread :thumb_yello:

do you think, that is why it is still there ???:lmao:

none of these, are disinformation--
they are packed full of fascinating information
and, there are even some moderator comments

NOW, if this was your thread,
and, i was OFF TOPIC, perhaps,
you might have a bone to pick :wub2:

even the titantic videos,
fit in with someone else's comments --
maybe, we should have one big long thread?

that might be easier to read :lightsabre:

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger
+ [xxx

Orion11

10-11-2008, 06:12 AM

ohh boy...

sorry ya got into this magii. lol
Bless

droid56

10-11-2008, 06:22 AM

Magii, you remind me of a lot of posters at Above Top Secret.

You don't respect that the posters here have the ability to assess ideas that people present. You're wrong.

I like to read people's opinions and ideas.

Pitbulls like you discourage the expression of diverse ideas.

Some of these ideas are wrong, and some of them are correct.

But I want to hear them all. Please stop trying to prevent the flow of diverse ideas.

This isn't Above Top Secret.

recallone

10-11-2008, 06:40 AM

I've got to agree with Magii on this one. I've poured over hundreds of videos on the net and arrived at the conclusion long ago that saintbrgitta cited videos are unreliable and fear-based. The biggest red flag for me, is that they try to shove bigger truths into the christian faith paradigm when the fit is clearly sloppy.
Now, I agree that information is only doom and gloom once you've decided to label it as such. It all goes into the same bucket. But from the perspective of the authoring source, is the super-tense soundtrack lending itself to an unbiased offering? Or is the delivery specifically designed to make you want to s**t your pants with fear? If the information is offered without any other intention, other than to inform - the information should be readily identified as just that until the qualified listener/reader has the opportunity to decide for themselves what they want to experience as a result of hearing it. Fear? Or information for a more informed decision. And what exactly does the Titanic have to do with any of this? It felt like a remedial debate tactic to me.

It's getting pretty hectic. No doubt. But I, too have a hard time with anyone giving me information and delivering it in a particular way to bring about a particular emotion. I know when someone is trying to manipulate me. I'm not having it.
Susan, you seem pretty proud of your big friends' list and over 700 posts. Well, your friends' list just got a little smaller tonight.
744 posts? 16.82 a day!? Almost sounds like a job.

Orion11

10-11-2008, 06:51 AM

a title alone has a huge effect on people.

Rebel4Life

10-11-2008, 07:00 AM

Here it is : http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4886

droid56

10-11-2008, 07:08 AM

Recallone, it's your right to disagree with what eXchanger is expressing.

But I would like you to think about what Magii has said.

Here's a quote of Magii.
"Is there any MODS?
Why is eXchanger still here to post and post xyz YOUTUBE videos of DISINFO?"

He is asking that an opinion that he strongly disagrees with be censored by the mods because he thinks it is "disinfo".

I'm not fond of censorship, unless it involves hateful ideas.

I don't like people preventing me from reading non-mainstream ideas because they think it's "disinfo".

I'm not stupid.

I'm very suspicious of people that want to limit the ideas I get to read on my computer.

recallone

10-11-2008, 07:27 AM

I haven't read the man's life history and don't endorse everything he's ever said and done, but on the topic of videos from the saintbirgitta camp, I agree.
I didn't say you were stupid. And I'm not either.
However, if I was new to this whole gig, I'd hope that what I was being presented with was as accurate and unbiased as possible. These vids aren't.
We're not the ones censoring youtube, here. We're the ones in the trenches doing our best to discern truth from agenda-laden fear instillment. Let's not forget that this is a spiritual war. Emotion is the queen on the chessboard. Govern your emotions, manage your vibration and BE the change you wish to see. I have a hard time encouraging anyone to look at videos I've personally concluded are either intentionally fear inducing, or flat out disinformation.
And I'm suspicious of people that want to force me into accepting their conclusion by using fear. Kind of like what happened with this whole bail-out fiasco. They used fear to intimidate our elected officials into approving something that couldn't possibly be read and understood in the amount of time they provided.
Think.
If you're offered something that is clearly trying to introduce that fear into your paradigm, think about who benefits from that fear.

And by the way, Droid56 - I don't even acknowledge mainstream media as news. If it's on the 6 o'clock news, as far as I'm concerned it's disinformation. Don't know what you were trying to accomplish with that little ill-placed comment. Everything we're discussing in these forums is from "non-mainstream" sources.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah

10-11-2008, 07:45 AM

yawn.. look we know they are gonna try and soft kill us all in the west.. things are gonna get tuff, we know this, this is why we are here. usa will look like road warrior,escape from LA ect. western europe will be similar.. get ready for crime explosion.. avalon is here for those in like mind to come together in these troubled times coming ahead. a radiant zone is not just a village in the woods with pyramid energy and meditators.. its a bout practical help and real time 3rd dimension solutions :)

Circlewerk

10-11-2008, 07:48 AM

Sometimes it's good to not think so analytically about things, or at least try & attach no emotion to who posts the thread.
In truth? From my very sober, objective point of view, it appears some of the people posting here are medicated or on some form of mind altering substance.
I read their posts, I see their choice of words in describing their motive for posting, (i.e "SCARY") I see the obvious delusional, or extreme video choices they think others would benefit from seeing, and I question their state of mind.
I don't think anyone is insulting intelligence levels here, I just think we're all so used to analyzing, that if we were to pull back on occasion,and look through a simple lens, we might see a simple equation.
I'd be curious to know how many people here are on mental health meds, if they take them as prescribed, and if they actually think they need them, especially if they claim any sort of spiritual alignment.
There are many contradicting threads coming from people who talk one way, but given enough time, walk to the beat of a different drummer.
Just an observation.
I agree with Recallone, in that information that is offered from an unbiased source, in an objective way, is more noteworthy. It enables the viewer a chance to discern without the use of dramatic, annoying background music, or an elaborate, overly passionate delivery..
Which to me, is obvious manipulation and an insult to my intelligence. And in this scenario, what could be the motivation besides shock & fear?
There are plenty of informative documents, videos & interviews available out there, why bring nuts to the table when the meat is readily available?

Peace,
CW

Tuza

10-11-2008, 08:06 AM

Member some members would like to re-acquaint themselves with the forum guidelines as well.

droid56

10-11-2008, 08:09 AM

Avid

10-11-2008, 12:19 PM

THE eXchanger

10-11-2008, 01:13 PM

This is BS.
This is human nature at work connecting dots that don't need connecting.

Decide for yourselves.
They marked terrible event locations and made a map that created a star pattern. Here it is. You be the judge.

1st they created a "real" mason symbol

and, if you do NOT know how "satanists" work
then, i would merely suggest you do some research
they mark things / ironically this formation has been
utilised in the past with much duality
for good/and, for bad

this was to advert potentials from occuring,
NOT to cause them
this is NOT about being in fear ...
knowledge is power (if the right people are aware of this,
then, they can do the right things)
+ [xxx

Magii

10-11-2008, 02:36 PM

Great - I'll like to thank xChanger for assisting in turning

Project Avalon into another GLP Type of forum ..

keep posting exactly the same way your doing ...

:yikes:

TranceAm

10-11-2008, 02:49 PM

Great - I'll like to thank xChanger for assisting in turning

Project Avalon into another GLP Type of forum ..

keep posting exactly the same way your doing ...

:yikes:

Hint: You could let it "go".. Instead of bumping it back onto the front page.
You have said your "say", now let others make up their own mind.
Another Hint, the time that people just Xerox thoughts from one person to the other, in a copy and paste way have changed...
Especially case your conclusions AND your accusation. We are all BUT little children. Times HAVE changed.
(Edit, Disclaimer: Of course there are people that still need their thoughts to be spoon fed, but they will speak for themselves..)

Negative Reputation Your Way.

Mike_Jetson

10-11-2008, 03:20 PM

I havnt read all of the replies but the thread title and video title ddont relate to what the vid is and should really say something along the lines of plotting possible false flag attacks into the shape of the masonic symbol or arguably a pentagram rather than saying that certain false flag attack have been exposed and they relate to martial law.

The vid could have been 1min long without all the chrsitian preaching.

Myrddin

10-11-2008, 04:36 PM

Okay guys there is a lot of information out there that indicates Martial Law may come into effect in America. If this is to take place it will happen over the next few weeks, before the elections, that's the only way Bush can establish a national emergency, establish martial law and then legally postpone the elections, keeping his group in power.

At this point instead debateing on what's true or false, the Americans at this site should be setting up their ground crews and making plans.

One big piece of advice, go along with whatever comes your way from the goverment, be the modle citizen, survival of you and your family is first and foremost. So don't be a hero, if they come to your door let them in with a smile.

Don't get me wrong, there are many ex-military and para-military groups across America that have been training and planning for such an event, for many years. I just want you and yours to survive.

Take Care

Myrddin

Orion11

10-11-2008, 05:33 PM

Great - I'll like to thank xChanger for assisting in turning

Project Avalon into another GLP Type of forum ..

keep posting exactly the same way your doing ...

:yikes:

yeah wtf. :thumbdown:

SpeedAdict

10-11-2008, 05:42 PM

yeah wtf. :thumbdown:

hahahahahahh :roll1::roll1: really wtf??

recallone

10-11-2008, 05:59 PM

Recallone, you say "However, if I was new to this gig, I'd hope that what I was being presented with was as accurate and unbiased as possible,"

Yes, in the best possible world, that would be the case.

But in the real world, as I'm sure you know, figuring out what the truth is, is very difficult. Especially if you are "new to this gig".

Removing portions of the stream of potential info, even if some people think it's fear-based and manipulative, is still censorship. There is a power that can be developed by navigating the whole crazy array of ideas, including "disinfo".
It takes time, but it's worth it.

Believe it or not, your opinion might not be shared by everybody. Mine too.

Hello?! Is this thing on?

Just to further clarify the obvious, I never said anything about censorship. Period. Your efforts to make it appear as though I was endorsing something to the contrary is really making you look like...well, someone I don't think you want to be.
Shall I start accusing you of mutilating small animals in my pursuit to be the one who is "right"? That's pretty much what you're doing here. Seriously, read the words several times if you're confused, because you're really making a spectacle of yourself out of an imaginary topic. I don't care about winning an argument, but I do care about someone trying to put words into my mouth to further the position of an unrelated subject. I agree that saintbirgitta videos are fear-based and largely unreliable. That's it! If that's where you'd prefer to get your information, then have at it! I was just sharing my perspective on that particular source.

Orion11

10-11-2008, 06:22 PM

i dont even know why i choose to involve myself in this kinda thread.

but after you see like 10 of them, its hard not to. lol

its like a wall everytime tho.. you just waste your breath trying to help some ppl.
sad but true.

lettem continue scaring each other if they wish.
just too bad it rubs off on others who might be a little less balanced.

im out. lol
peace n blessings.
<3

droid56

10-11-2008, 06:44 PM

It's one of those sparkly, sunny fall days that I love. The leaves are changing colours, the mornings are chilly. Change is in the air.

I'm out of this thread. The reason for my exit is the same reason why I stopped visiting GLP.

And my cat wants some company in the garden.

recallone

10-11-2008, 06:47 PM

Likewise. I'm out.

TranceAm

10-11-2008, 11:14 PM

All laws are in place,
The pawns are moved to their positions.

Martial law basically is already in effect, but not <fully> enforced yet.

http://www.pyrabang.com/view.php?ref=surfingtheapocalypse&post_id=3810

Now for the troops to appear en mass on the streets, an 'event' is needed, so the government like during 911 will declare the/a culprit for Joe Sixpack, and the soccer moms to 'justify' its actions for their own interest and that of the glory of the nation...

And then fully embraced by gods blessing it is Kristallnacht time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK5O1rL0NwE

Oh and with gleam in our eyes,
and furious shouting,
We will seig heil to our new Furher,
The man who saved us and the world.
And in return only asked to 'serve' the world,
To be president in ONE nation UNDER god.

Ceasar Bush..

Ceasar Bush -> Minor Arcana - King of Clouds
Control --> http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/TarotCardNew.cfm?All=Yes&Nr=32

Controlled persons are always nervous because deep down turmoil is still hidden. If you are
uncontrolled, flowing, alive, then you are not nervous. There is no question of being
nervous - whatsoever happens, happens. You have no expectations for the future, you are
not performing. Then why should you be nervous?

To control that mind, one has to remain so cold and frozen that no life energy is allowed to
move into your limbs, into your body. If energy is allowed to move, those repressions will
surface. That's why people have learned how to be cold, how to touch others and yet not
touch them, how to see people and yet not see them. People live with clichés - "Hallo. How
are you?" Nobody means anything. These are just to avoid the real encounter of two
persons. People don't look into each other's eyes, they don't hold hands, they don't try to
feel each other's energy, they don't allow each other to pour - very afraid, somehow just
managing, cold and dead, in a straitjacket.

Osho Dang Dang Doko Dang Chapter 5

Commentary:

There is a time and a place for control, but if we put it in charge of our lives we end up totally rigid. The figure is
encased in the angles of pyramid shapes that surround him. Light glitters and glints off his shiny surfaces, but
does not penetrate. It's as if he is almost mummified inside this structure he's built up around himself. His fists
are clenched and his stare is blank, almost blind. The lower part of his body beneath the table is a knife point, a
cutting edge that divides and separates. His world is ordered and perfect, but it is not alive - he cannot allow any
spontaneity or vulnerability to enter it.

The image of the King of Clouds reminds us to take a deep breath, loosen our neckties and take it easy. If mistakes
happen, it's okay. If things get a little out of hand, it's probably just what the doctor ordered. There is much, much
more to life than being "on top of things."

http://www.osho.com/magazine/tarot/picCards/zen032Control.jpg

Magii

10-11-2008, 11:39 PM

All

Nope . your wrong .. have a nice day

:tongue2:

TranceAm

10-11-2008, 11:58 PM

Nope . your wrong .. have a nice day

:tongue2:

I always have a nice day. Anyhow, thank you.
And yes, of course I am wrong.

It would be outrageous to assume, even for one split second that I could be right, God Forbid!! The story of my life.

Have you even bothered yourself to watch the video?

<==================================================>

Edit: Just for the fun of it of how wrong I can be at times and I got nothing better to do until the end of the world arrives..

Challenger ->

C = 3
h = 8
a = 1
l = 12
l = 12
e = 5
n = 14
g = 7
e = 5
r = 18
Total = 85 -> 13

Columbia

C = 3
o = 15
l = 12
u = 21
m = 13
b = 2
i = 9
a = 1
Total = 76 -> 13

I will leave it up to you to do the other Space Shuttles.
As I said/published a year, (BEFORE) the Columbia "accident", I would have flown ALL other Space Shuttles, BUT NOT THE COLUMBIA!

Now for ****s and Giggles and to keep it in the thread for our Magus:

Titanic

T = 20
i = 9
t = 20
a = 1
n = 14
i = 9
c = 3
Total = 76 -> 13

Iceberg

i = 9
c = 3
e = 5
b = 2
e = 5
r = 18
g = 7
Total = 49 -> 13

http://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainn ameatlonglast.com/trivia25.html
"The RMS Titanic set sail from Southampton on her very first voyage to New York on April 10th, 1912"

1+9+1+2 = ?

"2,227 passengers including crew personnel onboard when she set off for New York."

2+2+2+7 = ?

Now Numberology can be utter BS and Balony, but it seems for some people it does have enough meaning to base their "coincedences" on. And as long as they continue to do so, They are predictable.

Donald

10-12-2008, 02:44 AM

saint birgitta has some good videos...or bad depending on how you look at it. to each his own. to all their throne.
How reliable are the people at Saint-Birgitta? It seems to me they have a flair for the dramatic don't you think? I like their videos on Youtube though.

Humble Janitor

10-12-2008, 04:23 AM

I find it hard to read posts that look as if they are compiled in a frantic manner. Also, some of this stuff just doesn't make sense and I can't see what it contributes to this forum.

I'm a little disappointed in some of the stuff I've read about the presidential election, especially the continued slander of one candidate. That is another thing that turns me off to this forum.

Enjoy the site but the forum is a different matter.

Steve_G

10-12-2008, 11:05 AM

Thanks for posting eXchanger. The first and third videos are especially hard to ignore, the pictures speak for themselves. The second... well, there are plenty of facts given that should be EASY FOR PEOPLE TO CHECK FOR THEMSELVES!

Belief in any form is the enemy of knowledge. Why do PTB spend so much time trying to make us believe things? Because they are afraid of us knowing things.

We all started asking questions about TPB or we wouldn't have found our way here. These people have killed, tortured and maimed millions over the ages; did any of us here think that when our questions were answered and their plans were revealed that we would find peace, love and justice for all? Or was it far more likely that we would find planned horror?

Believing ANYTHING is the worst thing we can do because it instantly closes our minds to other possibilities. So instead it's better to go and find things out for ourselves because then we will KNOW and belief will not be required.

izz

10-12-2008, 01:24 PM

i know exchanger, i saw those before. it is f..... scary. btw folks. just bec. people are giving info, does not mean they are a FEAR MONGERER! it's like being on the titanic and discovering a leak and trying to warn people. why attack the messenger!

the thing is you are NOT a MESSENGER .. you are fear mongerering and a drama queenish .. if you say things like ' urgent martial law imminent ' etc etc

the titanic had a leak that is for sure .. after it hit an iceberg ..

but using nefarious arguments and dubious ' facts ' from uncertain sources to try to tell people that they are going top be victims of martial law IE roUNDED UP BY THE GOVT imprisoned and then killed .. it is b******s !!!

Maybe it takes a certain intelligence to be discerning in relation to information and sources .. i dont know so maybe some cant help it .. but can stop writing angry fear mongering posts about ML ...

I will debunk this rubbish because it is destructive ..

and dont compare 2ww europe with now - it is a completely different situation .. and the american govt is not comparable to the facism of the Nazis.. that is just ridiculous ..

and people the other thing is can we stop being so me me me ..

there are some people in some countries today !!! WHO SUFFER UNDER TERRIBLY OPPRESSIVE GOVErnments and you could say martial law .. why not focus our resources to helping those who truly need it .. rather then making up dark fantasies about your own demise !

izz

10-12-2008, 02:12 PM

TranceAm

10-12-2008, 02:14 PM

the thing is you are NOT a MESSENGER .. they are a fear mongerering and a drama queenish ..

the titanic had a leak that is for sure .. after it hit an iceberg ..

but using nefarious arguments and dubious ' facts ' from uncertain sources to try to tell people that they are going top be victims of martial law IE roUNDED UP BY THE GOVT imprisoned and then killed .. it is b******s !!!

Maybe it takes a certain intelligence to be discerning in relation to information and sources .. i dont know so maybe some cant help it .. but can stop writing angry fear mongering posts about ML ...

I will debunk this rubbish because it is destructive ..

and dont compare 2ww europe with now - it is a completely different situation .. and the american govt is not comparable to the facism of the Nazis.. that is just ridiculous ..

and people the other thing is can we stop being so me me me ..

there are some people in some countries today !!! WHO SUFFER UNDER TERRIBLY OPPRESSIVE GOVErnments and you could say martial law .. why not focus our resources to helping those who truly need it .. rather then making up dark fantasies about your own demise !

LOL

You are correct, on one thing,

"dont compare 2ww europe with now - it is a completely different situation .. and the american govt is not comparable to the facism of the Nazis.. that is just ridiculous"

The "Nazi's" fought Jewish Control (Hence the War declaration by the world Jewish Congress, to fight Germany in any way possible before WW2 even started, and guess what, a people without a land, won that war, without even having an army!),

The American Government Is UNDER Jewish "Control" back then and now.
Ref: Protocols, Balfour Declaration to get America into WW1, Neo-Cons, Axis of Evil containing for 80% Israels Enemies. (Update now it is 100% since NKorea is not anymore on that list.) The Israeli Connection to 911. http://blog.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel <- A new false flag
Not to mention the voting characteristics in the UN by America when it is about Israels Atrocities against the people and children of Palestine by that best democratic friend in the middle east..

I guess The Zionists don't have any purpose for America anymore, Beside of course that the Constitution enshrines a couple of words that are contradictory to the idea of choosen ones that are the only people, the rest only look like people but are animals with the same rights. The host has been leeched from its wealth, the only thing it has left is its miltairy power, and that is now destroyed in wars without end, not even fighting wars for its own benefit, since those you don't fight, if you can win their hearts... And one can only win a heart with empathy for other people bad luck or misery. Not by replacing one Harkonen with another one.

Also because one can always BUY oil if one wants to pay for it on a free Market.

"We will trade with anyone, and side with no one."

Americans around me are now saying: "It seems that they are really pushing us to revolt." Just the idea, that the government is pushing the people to revolt, so they can continue their plans and have some kind of justification for it.

Hell if you would have payed attention to the vice presidential candidates debate you would have recognized the text displayed behind the vice presidents.
It was the declaration of independence. but the part behind the candidates in the view of the camera read:

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Subliminal? Or plain in view?

"rather then making up dark fantasies about your own demise"

No everything is going peachy here. The orchestra is still playing...
We are only "playing" to get of the grid and survive that imaginary demise.

izz

10-12-2008, 02:19 PM

if you do NOT think there are troops
other than usa ones
in the usa -- i think you might want to think again

what about the euro people coming to try
to get canada into the EU ???

how can just a very few,
think they can control us ALL

something is really rotten

getting swallowed up by some AMERO,
sure doesn't sit to well with me

isusan
the eXchanger

euro people - who are they exactly and since when was canada going to be a member of the EU and use Euros ?

huh they have nt even managed to get the british to ditch the pound yet .. not for want of trying ..

amero .. ummm what !!! and what does this have to do with martial law .. they did nt use martial law to introduce the euro .. just dodgy politicians and plenty of lies ..

and the truth is the very few can control the many because the MANY allow it .. through their indifference, closed mindedness and narrow focus, we allow it and when we change each of us individually then collectively the whole will change .. and there will be a complete change in the way things are ..

i do think those videos you posted were not information but fear spreading - with respect

izz

10-12-2008, 02:30 PM

LOL

You are correct, on one thing,

"The "Nazi's" fought Jewish Control (Hence the War declaration by the world Jewish Congress, to fight Germany in any way possible before WW2 even started, and guess what, a people without a land, won that war, without even having an army!),

i dont even know how to reply to this post that is full of obvious and blatant disinformation and anti semitism ..

it is disgraceful sorry ..

'' a people without land and an army won that war .. '' trance

what rubbish - 6 million jews were killed in camps .. maybe the numbers were nt exactly that many .. but alot ...

I have personally met individuals who were in auschwitz .. and they had their lives destroyed and their families .. so dont tell me 70 years after the event that it did nt happen .. that just shows your blatant ignorance .. they had no homes and often no families and no money after the war .. .. hence the mass migration across the globe .. you could not imagine the horrors that certain groups endured during the 2ww particularly under the nazis but also under stalin ..

they [ th ecamp inmates] were liberated by the british and american troops .. europe was destroyed after the 2ww .. arguable no one walked away a winner .. apart from america [ the american government ] .. who profited very nicely from the loans to britain [ paid off last year ]

your ignorance in this respect is insulting and astounding

Jenny

10-12-2008, 02:58 PM

Please,

read the guidelines again.

Jenny

TranceAm

10-12-2008, 03:08 PM

i dont even know how to reply to this post that is full of obvious and blatant disinformation and anti semitism ..

Yes, Isn't that always the story... Talk about ignorance.

it is disgraceful sorry ..

what rubbish - 6 million jews were killed in camps .. maybe the numbers were nt exactly that many .. but alot ...

Who brought up camps or the holocaust? me?

I have personally met individuals who were in auschwitz .. and they had their lives destroyed and their families .. so dont tell me 70 years after the event that it did nt happen .. that just shows your blatant ignorance .. they had no homes and often no families and no money after the war .. .. hence the mass migration across the globe .. you could not imagine the horrors that certain groups endured during the 2ww particularly under the nazis but also under stalin ..

Can you quote me on that above, or are you putting words in my writing, that the reader has not seen? Or are you pulling that gu;t hook, so readers will side with you in order not to commit thought crime?

they [ th ecamp inmates] were liberated by the british and american troops .. europe was destroyed after the 2ww .. arguable no one walked away a winner .. apart from america [ the american government ] .. who profited very nicely from the loans to britain [ paid off last year ]

your ignorance in this respect is insulting and astounding

apart from america [ the american government ] .. who profited very nicely from the loans to britain [ paid off last year ]

You mean the bankers, the American Gov has no money.. They have to loan it from the bankers.. Same with the unbacked loans to Israel. Ah, the same Israel that was founded after WW2.. Who benefits, Not the Americans since they have to foot the interest to the bankers, not?

Ignorance... blatant disinfo.. Anti Semitism
Wow, History is written by victorers...

:-)

I will just put up one link, and let the readers descide for themselves.

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

Few people know the facts about the singular event that helped spark what ultimately became known as World War II - the international Jewish declaration of war on Germany shortly after Adolf Hitler came to power and well before any official German government sanctions or reprisals against Jews were carried out. The March 24, 1933 issue of The Daily Express of London (shown above) described how Jewish leaders, in combination with powerful international Jewish financial interests, had launched a boycott of Germany for the express purpose of crippling her already precarious economy in the hope of bringing down the new Hitler regime. It was only then that Germany struck back in response. Thus, if truth be told, it was the worldwide Jewish leadership - not the Third Reich - that effectively fired the first shot in the Second World War. Prominent New York attorney Samuel Untermyer (above right) was one of the leading agitators in the war against Germany, describing the Jewish campaign as nothing less than a "holy war."

Ignorance eh?

btw, I notice NO reply at all to this part:

The American Government Is UNDER Jewish "Control" back then and now.
Ref: Protocols, Balfour Declaration to get America into WW1, Neo-Cons, Axis of Evil containing for 80% Israels Enemies. (Update now it is 100% since NKorea is not anymore on that list.) The Israeli Connection to 911. http://blog.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel <- A new false flag
Not to mention the voting characteristics in the UN by America when it is about Israels Atrocities against the people and children of Palestine by that best democratic friend in the middle east..

I guess The Zionists don't have any purpose for America anymore, Beside of course that the Constitution enshrines a couple of words that are contradictory to the idea of choosen ones that are the only people, the rest only look like people but are animals with the same rights. The host has been leeched from its wealth, the only thing it has left is its miltairy power, and that is now destroyed in wars without end, not even fighting wars for its own benefit, since those you don't fight, if you can win their hearts... And one can only win a heart with empathy for other people bad luck or misery. Not by replacing one Harkonen with another one.

Also because one can always BUY oil if one wants to pay for it on a free Market.

"We will trade with anyone, and side with no one."

You mean you do agree to that part? Or didn't you want to put any attention to this part?

Magii

10-12-2008, 03:22 PM

Please,

read the guidelines again.

Jenny

Maybe you should lock the thread ---

and do some investigating of all the fear mongering posters ..

~~~~

Project Camelot information should be of HIGH QUALITY - not GLP / ATS type of **** ---

:thumb_yello:

izz

10-12-2008, 03:24 PM

trance we are all people .. i am not interested in divisions of race / religion etc etc ..

The only divisions i see are light and dark .. and they cross all barriers of religion and race ...

so I am not getting into this discussion of p[seudo facts with you ..

but DO NOT DEMONISE JEWISH people please ..

namaste

TranceAm

10-12-2008, 03:30 PM

Maybe you should lock the thread ---

and do some investigating of all the fear mongering posters ..

~~~~

Project Camelot information should be of HIGH QUALITY - not GLP / ATS type of **** ---

:thumb_yello:

Investigating.

Son, you don't even have to (ask to) ban me, If Jenny or any other of the mods asks I will leave all by myself,
See I want truth, and if you can't post or reply with truth, I don't want to volunteer to waste my time here. Time is precious. and there are so many nice thing to do out there.

None are so blind as those that refuse to see
None are so thirsty as those that refuse to drink.
There isn't one belief in the world strong enough to keep knowledge away.

Fear mongering is what the other side does. Combined with ad hominems, and several of the fallacies as explained here http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
And if they can't win with arguments, that is where the violence starts.,

My last post in this thread.

Edit, I Didn't see this reply, but it is worthwhile replying to:

but DO NOT DEMONISE JEWISH people please ..

I won't since they are used as a |human shield| also.
http://www.umass.edu/sephardimizrahi/past_issues/050313.html

I have seen the documentary "The Ringworm Children" and will be preparing my review over the weekend.

The documentary discusses the forced radiation by the Ashkenazi Israeli authorities of over 100,000 North African Jewish immigrant children in the 1950s which led to a health disaster of great magnitude for the immigrants and their children. Many of these children have either died or have had serious health problems over the decades since the treatments were administered.

The matter continues to remain unresolved as those who have received these lethal treatments remain unable to see their medical records.

There are a few more screenings of the film and I again advise all our readers to make sure to see this very important historical document that discusses the racism of the Zionist authorities against Sephardic Jews in Israel.

Jenny

10-12-2008, 03:49 PM

" My last post in this thread."

As long as you are respectfull to any people or individual, or any sentient being, inhabiting this earth , go ahead TransAm.
By all means.

Jenny

THE eXchanger

12-27-2009, 04:21 AM

THiS thread is fiXed for a researcher ;)

mntruthseeker

12-27-2009, 04:41 AM

-

ironically you mention the titanic...
which was the 1st type of 9-11 of the 20th century

it was NOT the titanic that was sunk

but, the sister ship that went down !!!

and, also the casket of The High Priestess Amen-Ra
was on board, it had a curse attached to it
quite a number of interesting things happened
to the 4 guys who pulled straws to get it

it also is a fact
that most of the 1st class passengers
conveniently missed the trip

and; the owner of the boat
was off, having fun in france
with his mistress

SHOCKING...
well, so be it,
we are in SHOCKING TIMES
we have been trying to awaken many
for a very long time !!!

truth can really suck !!!

i still predict,
that inner circles will turn on the inner core
and, that inner circles will also turn the cheek
and, walk away real soon

if the boat has NO crew,
and, bad weather sets it,
it sinks

we "the people" are NOT letting our boats go down !!!

as for them, i hope they sink, and, can NOT swim

it is important to look at the patterns

as, it predicts the future

and, knowing that, we can stop that !!!

On board also was the riches man in the world that opposed the Federal Reserves.................they needed to kill him, thats for sure and they made sure he was on board