Barry King British Whistleblower testimony

[eurosceptic]

Barry King claims to have encountered greys, reptillians etc and worked in underground bases in Britain and also claims, according to his knowledge that US, Canadian and UK Govts have been involved in genetic manipulation, mind control etc of populations.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TqR2EAKHqkk&feature=related

Interestingly he believes that the Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters case was a actually Psy-ops by ery earth based technology! Not Beings from 'elsewhere'????

[Soul Sequence]

Hey eurosceptic!........If you're interested in Barry King, follow this thread here on this site
http://www.projectavalon.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4106
This person claims to be a representative for Mr.King.

[THEWATCHER]

Hey eurosceptic!........If you're interested in Barry King, follow this thread here on this site
http://www.projectavalon.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4106
This person claims to be a representative for Mr.King.

If I may but in here, there were colleagues whom posted on this forum with an ID to be used by me once I was well enough to resume disclosures. I'm here and very much alive.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[eurosceptic]

Very peculiar/interesting testimony - cheers for the thread link:thumb_yello:

[Indiana jones]

I've just came across barry kings info last week along with a man named James casbolt.thought about heading down to berkshire over the weekend to check out the bases he mentions on you-tube.I really need some info where to look does anybody know if barry's still around e-mailed James last week no repley yet.as anyone from the berkshire area been to the bases?

[Kate]

I've just came across barry kings info last week along with a man named James casbolt.thought about heading down to berkshire over the weekend to check out the bases he mentions on you-tube.I really need some info where to look does anybody know if barry's still around e-mailed James last week no repley yet.as anyone from the berkshire area been to the bases?

Hi Indianna!

If you look a couple of posts above you..'the watcher' is Barry king. He appears to be popping on/off to answer questions in this thread! :original:

From what I understand, other people have tried to contact james casbolt with no result...we have to see if he materialises again on the net....

all the best
kate

[THEWATCHER]

I've just came across barry kings info last week along with a man named James casbolt.thought about heading down to berkshire over the weekend to check out the bases he mentions on you-tube.I really need some info where to look does anybody know if barry's still around e-mailed James last week no repley yet.as anyone from the berkshire area been to the bases?


Peculiar testimony?? Oh well. The facility is located underground just west of the village of Peasemore. You will not find big signs pointing the way though. nor any obvious tell tale signs of its existence, would hardly be a secret secure base if that was so.
The entrances are located at Welford, watchfield, Harwell and now closed off Greenham Common.




THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Steve_A]

Hi eurosceptic,

I'm sure that Barry means well. However, we must be open minded on what these people are saying, so much for Barry as any of the other 'legends' who speak about and make a comfortable living giving speeches about this topic.

I do know that back in 1950 the UK started a work group to study te phenomenon, but decided to take a back seat as the Americans seemed to be driving. I would have thought that, as really close allies, any British scientists who wished to develop mutants and such, would have done this on American soil where the infrastructure was already in place.

I'm sure that the UK has underground military bases, even secret ones, I mean, even visiting an English battleship in Barcelona, we were limited as to what we could see.

Not too sure about genetic engineering and aliens though. It's good stuff to put in a book and sell and make money giving 'testamonies' though.

Best regards,

Steve




Barry King claims to have encountered greys, reptillians etc and worked in underground bases in Britain and also claims, according to his knowledge that US, Canadian and UK Govts have been involved in genetic manipulation, mind control etc of populations.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TqR2EAKHqkk&feature=related

Interestingly he believes that the Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters case was a actually Psy-ops by ery earth based technology! Not Beings from 'elsewhere'????

[Operator]

I'm sure that Barry means well. However, we must be open minded on what these people are saying, so much for Barry as any of the other 'legends' who speak about and make a comfortable living giving speeches about this topic.


Hi Steve,

I don't think Barry is in this kind of business. Of course I cannot verify this but he seems to suffer from health problems.

Please be careful to generalize and label people as WE are the ones who try to make this world a better place and should be an example.

Cheers

[Steve_A]

Hi Operator,

I'm sorry if I came across as a people labeller, that wasn't my intent. I appreciate what some people do. George Greene for example seems to be really clued in on the economy. I'm not too sure about his experience with the Pleidians though.

Dr. Greer seems more honed in on advanced technology. If this technology came from outer space or not I don't know. His wistleblowers conference was very interesting to see and the 'ordinary people' those that were there for no other reason than to say what they know, I really appreciate (like the lady who worked at NASA).

I like John Lear, more for is personality, though. He is clearly closely linked to weapons and aircraft.

I think it was Buzz Aldrin who had an interview on English radio and said that ETS exist. When asked if he'd ever seen one, he replied that he hadn't but has heard of people who had. You could quite easily be forgiven to accept the first part of his statement, and conclude that ETS exist, and miss the second, because he was an astronaut.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say the ETs don't exist, I'm sure they do there's enough evidence out there. We live on a tiny rock in only one of the millions of solar systems that are out there.

I think it was Robert Dean that said, "The evidence is crushing, you just need to do your howmework".

What I'm trying to say is that you should choose the right information from the right people and then you can form your own picture of what appears to be going on.

Best regards,

Steve

Hi Steve,

I don't think Barry is in this kind of business. Of course I cannot verify this but he seems to suffer from health problems.

Please be careful to generalize and label people as WE are the ones who try to make this world a better place and should be an example.

Cheers

[Operator]

Hi Steve,

No harm done ... that's why I came in with: "please be careful".

I know what you mean ... it's very difficult to discern the truth between all the pieces ...
I want to raise an interesting question: What would be better ?

1. All evidence supporting each other
2. Some evidence in conflict with other evidence

In case 1 someone can easily fall for a hoax nothing is contradicting, it must be true.

Case 2 however makes it more interesting. Because the contradictions it will make you more sharp. Someone must NOT be telling
the truth ... and why ?

The why question most of the times is the best lead ......

Cheers

[Deb]

Hi eurosceptic,

I'm sure that Barry means well. However, we must be open minded on what these people are saying, so much for Barry as any of the other 'legends' who speak about and make a comfortable living giving speeches about this topic.

I do know that back in 1950 the UK started a work group to study te phenomenon, but decided to take a back seat as the Americans seemed to be driving. I would have thought that, as really close allies, any British scientists who wished to develop mutants and such, would have done this on American soil where the infrastructure was already in place.

I'm sure that the UK has underground military bases, even secret ones, I mean, even visiting an English battleship in Barcelona, we were limited as to what we could see.

Not too sure about genetic engineering and aliens though. It's good stuff to put in a book and sell and make money giving 'testamonies' though.

Best regards,

Steve

As a moderator shame on you! Barry has never made a penny. Please do your homework hon.

[Steve_A]

Hi Deb,

As a moderator I need to keep the forum in check.

As an individual I have my opinions. We moderators are not clones nor do we share the same opinions, that's what makes this forum so interesting.

I made no slanderous remark about Barry. On the contrary I said that I was sure that he meant well. I don't apollogise for what I wrote, however I apologise if you were offended.

Best regards,

Steve


As a moderator shame on you! Barry has never made a penny. Please do your homework hon.

[Steve_A]

Hi Operator,

Your questions are very valid. I could answer your question "why" with a one word answer. However I apparently have already offended a Barry fan, (which is funny because you said he appeared unstable and got away scot free :) ) so I won't. Perhaps in a private message!

Best regards,

Steve



Hi Steve,

No harm done ... that's why I came in with: "please be careful".

I know what you mean ... it's very difficult to discern the truth between all the pieces ...
I want to raise an interesting question: What would be better ?

1. All evidence supporting each other
2. Some evidence in conflict with other evidence

In case 1 someone can easily fall for a hoax nothing is contradicting, it must be true.

Case 2 however makes it more interesting. Because the contradictions it will make you more sharp. Someone must NOT be telling
the truth ... and why ?

The why question most of the times is the best lead ......

Cheers

[THEWATCHER]

Hi eurosceptic,

I'm sure that Barry means well. However, we must be open minded on what these people are saying, so much for Barry as any of the other 'legends' who speak about and make a comfortable living giving speeches about this topic.

I do know that back in 1950 the UK started a work group to study te phenomenon, but decided to take a back seat as the Americans seemed to be driving. I would have thought that, as really close allies, any British scientists who wished to develop mutants and such, would have done this on American soil where the infrastructure was already in place.

I'm sure that the UK has underground military bases, even secret ones, I mean, even visiting an English battleship in Barcelona, we were limited as to what we could see.

Not too sure about genetic engineering and aliens though. It's good stuff to put in a book and sell and make money giving 'testamonies' though.

Best regards,

Steve

Please do not associate myself with those you see doing the lecture circuits, making money from books, video or DVD sales whatever. I have made not one penny from this, in fact its cost me a small fortune over the years, supplying copies of the files in the 90's to all and sundry globally. Copying and sending tapes or discs free of any charge globally. I did not receive any payments from the interviews or lectures i have given. For my troubles i have received intimidation, harassment, threats and actual bodily trauma from my disclosures over the years. Threats to family and close friends. Life made a complete hell at times, you have no idea. Please be not under the assumption that i am living a very comfortable life. Disclosure is a long dangerous road, often lonely and full of despair.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Operator,

Your questions are very valid. I could answer your question "why" with a one word answer. However I apparently have already offended a Barry fan, (which is funny because you said he appeared unstable and got away scot free :) ) so I won't. Perhaps in a private message!

Best regards,

Steve

Please kindly refrain from the term 'Barry fan' as this is both insulting to me and the intelligence of those whom at least listen with an open mind. Those whom are blinkered and solely wish to dig at someones claims I have had little time for since 1994. I find it strange that certain individuals can come onto the scene with lets say equally bizarre claims yet are revered beyond logic, newcomers into the disclosure field. I have been disclosing since 1994, and as time went on verification has been made unofficially in certain quarters.


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Deb,

As a moderator I need to keep the forum in check.

As an individual I have my opinions. We moderators are not clones nor do we share the same opinions, that's what makes this forum so interesting.

I made no slanderous remark about Barry. On the contrary I said that I was sure that he meant well. I don't apollogise for what I wrote, however I apologise if you were offended.

Best regards,

Steve

Yes by all means keep forum in check but within moderation too, certain forum mods in the past had personal agendas and started throwing their weight around bossing those whom did not agree to their homemade 'rules'. I'm pretty sure you are a level headed individual and this would not apply. Otherwise Bill and Kerry would not make you a Mod right?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[mudhog92]

I applaud your efforts and persistance in spreading your story, answering questions..thank-you much. As I digest your info and others, whistle blowers, spiritualists, insiders, ... it is a very complicated picture, almost overwhelming. I educate myself to make informed decisions trying to avoid letting any fear get ahold of me-not easiest all the time. I consider myself prepared for the worst, while spreading light and love hoping for the best. I have but one question....
What would you do if you were a Jo Blow like most of us getting the story you have?
Thanx again, peace

[THEWATCHER]

I applaud your efforts and persistance in spreading your story, answering questions..thank-you much. As I digest your info and others, whistle blowers, spiritualists, insiders, ... it is a very complicated picture, almost overwhelming. I educate myself to make informed decisions trying to avoid letting any fear get ahold of me-not easiest all the time. I consider myself prepared for the worst, while spreading light and love hoping for the best. I have but one question....
What would you do if you were a Jo Blow like most of us getting the story you have?
Thanx again, peace


i would listen, as i have many other insiders, whistleblowers and the like. do some research, sit and logically think things thru in my mind. Make checks. Doing what everyone else should be doing. Blind acceptance i do not want or tolerate, blind sketicism is something i cannot tolerate either. Listen, evaluate then decide.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Indiana jones]

For some of us whistleblower accounts are't enough.I've spent 12 years lost down the rabbit hole are we any near to disclosure?for me it's bloody annoying the powers in controll are they just toying with us?I(we) need to get off the fence and get in their face sitting back like the awakend has for the last 60 years has got us nowhere.where's the demo's we need to be walking the streets of major cities around the globe educating the sheeple we need a globle action day.we need stand up togeather unity is the key that's if we really believe.(those who fail to prepare prepare to fail) luke

[mudhog92]

Thanx watcher, kinda knew the answer once you spillied it out. I think we know the answers to many of our own questions, problem is we don't listen enuff.
Indiana, in addition to your question(s), would it get us better results to ignore what the PTB are trying to do? Kind of a Zen/Taoist approach-get more by doing less. Too much in energy protesting could get too much in return, but if you do nothing (ignore them, don't buy there poop any longer), wouldn't that leave them powerless too? I'm not a total pacifist, just thinking out loud....

[mudhog92]

by doing nothing, I mean take their power by letting go of the drama, trauma, and fear...

[THEWATCHER]

For some of us whistleblower accounts are't enough.I've spent 12 years lost down the rabbit hole are we any near to disclosure?for me it's bloody annoying the powers in controll are they just toying with us?I(we) need to get off the fence and get in their face sitting back like the awakend has for the last 60 years has got us nowhere.where's the demo's we need to be walking the streets of major cities around the globe educating the sheeple we need a globle action day.we need stand up togeather unity is the key that's if we really believe.(those who fail to prepare prepare to fail) luke


Could not agree more, been sat twiddling thumbs since 2000 after joining Dr Greer and the Disclosure Project, action is long overdue but whom is going to initiate that?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[the sceptic]

Hi Steve,

No harm done ... that's why I came in with: "please be careful".

I know what you mean ... it's very difficult to discern the truth between all the pieces ...
I want to raise an interesting question: What would be better ?

1. All evidence supporting each other
2. Some evidence in conflict with other evidence

In case 1 someone can easily fall for a hoax nothing is contradicting, it must be true.

Case 2 however makes it more interesting. Because the contradictions it will make you more sharp. Someone must NOT be telling
the truth ... and why ?

The why question most of the times is the best lead ......

Cheers

Hear, Hear, I`ll be honest, I`ve lurked on here for a while and take most of the comments on here with a pinch of salt. I find a lot of the posts on here fantastical, and, would like to say although I am a sceptic. I want to know the truth.

[THEWATCHER]

Hear, Hear, I`ll be honest, I`ve lurked on here for a while and take most of the comments on here with a pinch of salt. I find a lot of the posts on here fantastical, and, would like to say although I am a sceptic. I want to know the truth.

that is a fair comment. Have you studied the others? such as Duncan for example, and what of John Lear? or is his name simply big enough to accept his every word because he is THE John Lear?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[swordsmith]

Hi Barry , appreciate your testimony, been looking at this subject for a while. A lot of what you say concerns the same sort of info from Phil Schneider... in other words, take great care!
I have no problem with the whole psi-ops programme, other than the fact it happens at all, that is.

What is it with the proliference of moderators all of a sudden? I appreciate things have to stay on the rails but I think too much moderation has a censoring quality. Maybe moderators should refrain from personal opinion.

A friend was driving through a nearby village and the inhabitants were out with a speed camera they rented from the police. Apart from that , there was hardly anyone on the road. A friend on a motorbike passed through and stopped to take exception to proceedings . He made the point that this is what happened in nazi germany, people started policing each other. Very Orwellian and not attractive.

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry , appreciate your testimony, been looking at this subject for a while. A lot of what you say concerns the same sort of info from Phil Schneider... in other words, take great care!
I have no problem with the whole psi-ops programme, other than the fact it happens at all, that is.

What is it with the proliference of moderators all of a sudden? I appreciate things have to stay on the rails but I think too much moderation has a censoring quality. Maybe moderators should refrain from personal opinion.

A friend was driving through a nearby village and the inhabitants were out with a speed camera they rented from the police. Apart from that , there was hardly anyone on the road. A friend on a motorbike passed through and stopped to take exception to proceedings . He made the point that this is what happened in nazi germany, people started policing each other. Very Orwellian and not attractive.

I'm careful, learnt that years ago plus have some protection from colleagues. Re the mods, they have a job to do but as you say, should remain unbiased, with own opinions yes, but showing bias really does not help. I think i may not have heard the last from 'modville' LOL.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[swordsmith]

Thanks Barry, I have "officially" no TETRA mast or even cell towers near me. I am familiar with Tim Rifat's work, some of it's great, ansd some goes off into , (for me) strange territory, sexual mojo magick talismans I do not need just at the moment, though some of his work resonates.
I have heard this noise in places there is NO computer, (and I turn mine off at the mains etc, plus everything else) and hear it places where there is minimal cell tower coverage . I'm told there is no TETRA near me ,was my first area of suspicion but I have thought about the underground aspect of broadcasting and the possibility of an underground facility nearby. How do I know for sure?

I know a fair bit about the Taos hum, no conclusively known cause as of yet, but it's a pretty easy guess, but hey, since you are a " nuts and bolts" guy, I want to know the nuts and bolts! How do they do it?

I am partially concerned about how this affects the completely unaware people and sheeple I am surrounded by. CHEMTRAILS/ EMF contamination IS MY BUGBEAR AND I SEE MOST PEOPLE ARE ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZ

It is not at all surprising with the compound effects of bad diet, fluoride, amalgam fillings, aluminium/barium ,TV, aspartame... enough? I think so.
Ok, how do the PTB protect themselves, and how do I find out if there is an underground facility nearby? I cannot help but think there is some sonar/submarine aspect to all this.
Hope you are in fine fettle.

[Antaletriangle]

I'm unsure whether or not you may be familiar with Lt.col.Sc. Watcher-he guested on the edge radio in january of this year and he does tend to 'rant' a little concerning christianity and so forth but he's similar to yourself in having witnessed reptile races but beneath the Brecon beacons-i sent the link to linn earlier last week.On the link provided, (if you're interested in the interview that is) scrolll down to Lt.col. sc at Jan.19th 2008.He reiterates the reptilian presences toward the end of the interview (if i remember correctly).
Lt. Colonel SC will be talking about inside information regarding the alien agenda, illuminati connection, abductions and the pending attack on earth. The Lt. says the Stephenville mile long UFO is the real deal and it came from under the ocean. He is knowledgeable in many things and has first hand experience on information brought out in last weeks show with Barbara Brown. Listen to that interview as a primer to this upcoming interview.
http://www.theedgeam.com/guests/pastguest21.htm

[Jacqui D]

There seem to be so many sceptics on this site which although to some makes sense i guess but considering the information which is shown on the Camelot site still astounds me.

Why do people still have this problem believing all this stuff, okay call me "one of those that believes absolutely everything" well that i'm not but i do believe in giving people the chance to say their piece without being put down because it seems too off the wall for some.

About the humming mentioned earlier, there has been many articles lately printed in news papers about apparent humming noises coming from underground.
One lady in Welling Kent, England has been at her wits end she puts it.With a humming noise that she feels she can not live in her home no longer.
She is not near any pylons or any other type of electronic devises and yet continual humming carries on daily and nightly causing the family to feel quite ill with the continuous annoyance.
One workman could not even enter her home because he said the noise was so bad it hurt his ears.
What's causing it well know one knows they have had various people down to investigate but nothing has been found.
The lady in question said;
"If i didn't know better i would say a ufo was above the house, the only explaination of a noise with no reason."

[the sceptic]

that is a fair comment. Have you studied the others? such as Duncan for example, and what of John Lear? or is his name simply big enough to accept his every word because he is THE John Lear?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

Sorry, I`m not digging you out, all I`m saying is that I want to see concrete evidence, and, that applies to everyone. Don`t care where they are from and who they are, to quote Bob Geldof "show me the money".

[Love/Light 13]

Just use your disinfo radar and all will work itself out...................

L/L 13

*****************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

[THEWATCHER]

Thanks Barry, I have "officially" no TETRA mast or even cell towers near me. I am familiar with Tim Rifat's work, some of it's great, ansd some goes off into , (for me) strange territory, sexual mojo magick talismans I do not need just at the moment, though some of his work resonates.
I have heard this noise in places there is NO computer, (and I turn mine off at the mains etc, plus everything else) and hear it places where there is minimal cell tower coverage . I'm told there is no TETRA near me ,was my first area of suspicion but I have thought about the underground aspect of broadcasting and the possibility of an underground facility nearby. How do I know for sure?
thats the problem, not easy at all. You mention subs as a possible culprit, you are situated South-East UK so can only see Chatham as a possibility there. ELF is used much for comms by subs. This is not going to be an easy task eliminating every possible source trying to locate the right one.

I know a fair bit about the Taos hum, no conclusively known cause as of yet, but it's a pretty easy guess, but hey, since you are a " nuts and bolts" guy, I want to know the nuts and bolts! How do they do it?
Its all to do with resonance, phasing, pulsing, to match your minds frequencies

I am partially concerned about how this affects the completely unaware people and sheeple I am surrounded by. CHEMTRAILS/ EMF contamination IS MY BUGBEAR AND I SEE MOST PEOPLE ARE ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZ
You and me and many serious researchers globally trying to wake people up to the dangers of chems

It is not at all surprising with the compound effects of bad diet, fluoride, amalgam fillings, aluminium/barium ,TV, aspartame... enough? I think so.
Ok, how do the PTB protect themselves, and how do I find out if there is an underground facility nearby? I cannot help but think there is some sonar/submarine aspect to all this.
Hope you are in fine fettle.
Now that is something kept from us lower down the chain. Trying to locate any underground facility is going to be difficult, at times impossible. If i can narrow down your neck of the woods i can try and find anything in your area that might be to blame.


I'm doing fine thanks, my best wishes


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

I'm unsure whether or not you may be familiar with Lt.col.Sc. Watcher-he guested on the edge radio in january of this year and he does tend to 'rant' a little concerning christianity and so forth but he's similar to yourself in having witnessed reptile races but beneath the Brecon beacons-i sent the link to linn earlier last week.On the link provided, (if you're interested in the interview that is) scrolll down to Lt.col. sc at Jan.19th 2008.He reiterates the reptilian presences toward the end of the interview (if i remember correctly).
Lt. Colonel SC will be talking about inside information regarding the alien agenda, illuminati connection, abductions and the pending attack on earth. The Lt. says the Stephenville mile long UFO is the real deal and it came from under the ocean. He is knowledgeable in many things and has first hand experience on information brought out in last weeks show with Barbara Brown. Listen to that interview as a primer to this upcoming interview.
http://www.theedgeam.com/guests/pastguest21.htm
Love the Kate Bush piccie.. I have listened to part of that but will listen to all before i make any comment


Regards

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

There seem to be so many sceptics on this site which although to some makes sense i guess but considering the information which is shown on the Camelot site still astounds me.

Why do people still have this problem believing all this stuff, okay call me "one of those that believes absolutely everything" well that i'm not but i do believe in giving people the chance to say their piece without being put down because it seems too off the wall for some.

About the humming mentioned earlier, there has been many articles lately printed in news papers about apparent humming noises coming from underground.
One lady in Welling Kent, England has been at her wits end she puts it.With a humming noise that she feels she can not live in her home no longer.
She is not near any pylons or any other type of electronic devises and yet continual humming carries on daily and nightly causing the family to feel quite ill with the continuous annoyance.
One workman could not even enter her home because he said the noise was so bad it hurt his ears.
What's causing it well know one knows they have had various people down to investigate but nothing has been found.
The lady in question said;
"If i didn't know better i would say a ufo was above the house, the only explaination of a noise with no reason."
Constructive criticism and a barrage of questions is perfectly acceptable, its the hard nosed would not believe if one hit me in the face types that annoy me LOL




THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Sorry, I`m not digging you out, all I`m saying is that I want to see concrete evidence, and, that applies to everyone. Don`t care where they are from and who they are, to quote Bob Geldof "show me the money".


Thats fine, perfectly logical, trouble being not one whistleblower CAN provide concrete evidence of his or her claims, if they did they would be on the front of every major newspaper. Look at them all, not one can give you that one piece to prove totally can they?


I'm still trying though, with respect and warm wishes


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Just use your disinfo radar and all will work itself out...................

L/L 13

*****************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

There you go:original:


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[utopiated]

Hi Watcher

We've spoken before a year or more back if you are who I think.

At the time I'd ordered Greer's latest book as it had just come out. I discussed with you the fact that Steve Greer has always maintained that

"We have been producing PLFs since the 1940s"

and he's pointed to your D.P. statement on a few occasions to back this up. Thus the point I made [which few ppl seem to realise] is that it's possible a large degree of S.G.'s notion that all 'grey' abductions are MILAB and ARV based has been made from what you've said. He may well have other [USA related] evidence on top - I don't know.

Greer has softened his former strict associated of "all abductions being MILABs" recently.

You've said you're waiting to be helped to initiate your testimony into a wider scheme of things - but how is anyone going to do this? You mentioned to me that a legal firm had images and/or documents that would help this process? If this is the case - would this not be a useful start to get some backing for your claims?

I have no doubt there are DUMBS on the UK mainland. Read "Left at Eastgate" for one example. I just can't understand why the UK never gets more whistle-blowers on these type issues. We need a Phil Schneider type character to discuss the building of these things over here - that would be a start and would give us something to work with. At the moment - it seems a locked-down issue.

[carcharodon]

Interesting - gray aliens with round eyes just like in Miriam Delicado's interview. How were these engineered beings programmed? Also by sitting in a chair (no elaboration on the interface technology), or genetically? If interfaced, I wonder how did they overcome brain's need for information reinforcement and subsequential learning degradation. If genetically, this means military tech is ahead of publicly available technology by 3+ decades (usually it's less than 10 years). You guys remember it took scientists around the world a nr of years to map human genome. Not so sure about Canadian government involvement, where would that amount of money come from in a country with a relatively small population. Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.

[Steve_A]

Hi carcharodon,

I have to say I'm ashamed of the British Intelligence Service and Her Majestys' Armed Forces to allow a 'security guard' roam around a top secret facility with not even four months experience on the job!

They'll be hiring TOPS scheme employees next!

Best regards,

Steve


Interesting - gray aliens with round eyes just like in Miriam Delicado's interview. How were these engineered beings programmed? Also by sitting in a chair (no elaboration on the interface technology), or genetically? If interfaced, I wonder how did they overcome brain's need for information reinforcement and subsequential learning degradation. If genetically, this means military tech is ahead of publicly available technology by 3+ decades (usually it's less than 10 years). You guys remember it took scientists around the world a nr of years to map human genome. Not so sure about Canadian government involvement, where would that amount of money come from in a country with a relatively small population. Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.

[THEWATCHER]

Hi carcharodon,

I have to say I'm ashamed of the British Intelligence Service and Her Majestys' Armed Forces to allow a 'security guard' roam around a top secret facility with not even four months experience on the job!

They'll be hiring TOPS scheme employees next!

Best regards,

Steve

Well Steve, you obviously DO NOT have the whole story as being hired into that facility was from a very long process and i was known to them already, so NOT a complete newcomer. Do not beat about the bush say things straight out TO ME please without the sarcasm OK? Not as you perceive 'security guards', damn sight more went into the training, indoctrination than you might think. Shame on you for uneducated sarcasm.
Hiring TOPS scheme next?? get a sense man

THE WATCHEr AKA BMK

And whats all this about eye movements? Have you studied other testimony films re others? watch Lear, Schneider, Cooper, Duncan, et al, watch their eyes!!

[utopiated]

Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.


Well that's the stage we're at with BK's testimony and why I'm sure we *could* get some significant support going if we could have a bit more to go on from his side. Until then - as you suggest - we're left with using basic NLP/psychology stuff to see if he's

1. Telling the truth
2. Thinks it's the truth but it's someone else's agenda
3. Fibbing to the nth degree.

Anyone tried that backward's masking stuff on his speech??

I've also previously suggested that there must be links from BK to other security guards who could come out and back his claim as having worked at 'AL659'.

Barry's response to asking for even basic evidence is that you don't get to come away with evidence from black-project employment. Which is true. But there's always ways and means. Phil Schneider had little material evidence but I researched his case in depth years ago and came to the conclusion that 90% of his story is real. I even spoke to his wife about the autopsy report - once you hear what went on with that - you know Schneider was murdered.... it was blatant.

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Watcher

We've spoken before a year or more back if you are who I think.

At the time I'd ordered Greer's latest book as it had just come out. I discussed with you the fact that Steve Greer has always maintained that

"We have been producing PLFs since the 1940s"

and he's pointed to your D.P. statement on a few occasions to back this up. Thus the point I made [which few ppl seem to realise] is that it's possible a large degree of S.G.'s notion that all 'grey' abductions are MILAB and ARV based has been made from what you've said. He may well have other [USA related] evidence on top - I don't know.

Greer has softened his former strict associated of "all abductions being MILABs" recently.

You've said you're waiting to be helped to initiate your testimony into a wider scheme of things - but how is anyone going to do this? You mentioned to me that a legal firm had images and/or documents that would help this process? If this is the case - would this not be a useful start to get some backing for your claims?

I have no doubt there are DUMBS on the UK mainland. Read "Left at Eastgate" for one example. I just can't understand why the UK never gets more whistle-blowers on these type issues. We need a Phil Schneider type character to discuss the building of these things over here - that would be a start and would give us something to work with. At the moment - it seems a locked-down issue.

With the response i see, the added sarcasm i'm not too surprised others are not coming forward, its simply not worth the effort


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Interesting - gray aliens with round eyes just like in Miriam Delicado's interview. How were these engineered beings programmed? Also by sitting in a chair (no elaboration on the interface technology), or genetically? If interfaced, I wonder how did they overcome brain's need for information reinforcement and subsequential learning degradation. If genetically, this means military tech is ahead of publicly available technology by 3+ decades (usually it's less than 10 years). You guys remember it took scientists around the world a nr of years to map human genome. Not so sure about Canadian government involvement, where would that amount of money come from in a country with a relatively small population. Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.

Really, whats that supposed to mean please? Amateur psychologists please note all body language and eye responses, speech reversal etc etc.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[utopiated]

Well Steve, you obviously DO NOT have the whole story as being hired into that facility was from a very long process and i was known to them already, so NOT a complete newcomer.

Shame on you for uneducated sarcasm.
Hiring TOPS scheme next?? get a sense man[/B]

And whats all this about eye movements? Have you studied other testimony films re others? watch Lear, Schneider, Cooper, Duncan, et al, watch their eyes!![/B]

I don't even know what a TOPS scheme is!

Thing is Watcher - you can't blame people for resorting to that sort of thing. I don't like cynical debunking of testimony - no matter HOW way out - but people want a few basics to go on.

Anyway - hope you're better now health wise - I got an email from someone a few weeks back saying you were not well.

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PM me if you want to say anything off forum.

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I can only come to my conclusions with the information I receive. Right? I watched the video and the guy on it said he was hired as a security officer during four months in the late seventies I think and then another four mmonths a few years later. It's not what I said.

As for the training, I must confess, I know absolutely nothing about being a security official and their speacial training needs. You could enlighten me instead of attacking....

Best regards,

Steve


Well Steve, you obviously DO NOT have the whole story as being hired into that facility was from a very long process and i was known to them already, so NOT a complete newcomer. Do not beat about the bush say things straight out TO ME please without the sarcasm OK? Not as you perceive 'security guards', damn sight more went into the training, indoctrination than you might think. Shame on you for uneducated sarcasm.
Hiring TOPS scheme next?? get a sense man

THE WATCHEr AKA BMK

And whats all this about eye movements? Have you studied other testimony films re others? watch Lear, Schneider, Cooper, Duncan, et al, watch their eyes!!

[Steve_A]

Hi utopiated,

Well you suprise me. Didn't you get the technical jargon used by the testemony. They called the smaller ETs 'the Tiddlers'.

What more proof do you want?

Best regards,

Steve


Well that's the stage we're at with BK's testimony and why I'm sure we *could* get some significant support going if we could have a bit more to go on from his side. Until then - as you suggest - we're left with using basic NLP/psychology stuff to see if he's

1. Telling the truth
2. Thinks it's the truth but it's someone else's agenda
3. Fibbing to the nth degree.

Anyone tried that backward's masking stuff on his speech??

I've also previously suggested that there must be links from BK to other security guards who could come out and back his claim as having worked at 'AL659'.

Barry's response to asking for even basic evidence is that you don't get to come away with evidence from black-project employment. Which is true. But there's always ways and means. Phil Schneider had little material evidence but I researched his case in depth years ago and came to the conclusion that 90% of his story is real. I even spoke to his wife about the autopsy report - once you hear what went on with that - you know Schneider was murdered.... it was blatant.

[THEWATCHER]

Well that's the stage we're at with BK's testimony and why I'm sure we *could* get some significant support going if we could have a bit more to go on from his side. Until then - as you suggest - we're left with using basic NLP/psychology stuff to see if he's

1. Telling the truth
2. Thinks it's the truth but it's someone else's agenda
3. Fibbing to the nth degree.

Anyone tried that backward's masking stuff on his speech??

I've also previously suggested that there must be links from BK to other security guards who could come out and back his claim as having worked at 'AL659'.

Barry's response to asking for even basic evidence is that you don't get to come away with evidence from black-project employment. Which is true. But there's always ways and means. Phil Schneider had little material evidence but I researched his case in depth years ago and came to the conclusion that 90% of his story is real. I even spoke to his wife about the autopsy report - once you hear what went on with that - you know Schneider was murdered.... it was blatant.

Actually its AL499


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Love/Light 13]

Barry-

Don't get too frustrated with the sarcasm. Unfortunately, sarcasm is most people's way of dealing with everyday life.

I myself have to be careful not too get too cynical in my daily life and communications. Those of us who have not had a first hand experience with ET's, etc. often find it very difficult to deal with the realities that we know are being hidden from us. Don't take the sarcasm personally, as hard as that may be.

Thanks again for your contributions to Avalon, your thoughts are much appreciated.

My question for you is this:

I have heard that Steven Greer says he has in his possession "alien technology" that would put the question of the truth of UFO's to rest forever, yet he has refused to release his evidence as of yet. Why the delay? If i had that evidence, i would want it released to the public in a responsible manner as soon as possible.

The secret has bee hidden for too long...........

L/L 13

****************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

[THEWATCHER]

Hi utopiated,

Well you suprise me. Didn't you get the technical jargon used by the testemony. They called the smaller ETs 'the Tiddlers'.

What more proof do you want?

Best regards,

Steve

Yes that was a term we 4 UK officers used, have a problem with that Steve? I suggest you refrain from the childish sarcasm or be reported for your obvious bias and lack of courtesey. Even a Mod should have qualities relevent to the task. Or did Bill and Kerry just let those Mods pick the job themselves? No wonder others would not bother to disclose on such forums, look at the reception they get.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Barry-

Don't get too frustrated with the sarcasm. Unfortunately, sarcasm is most people's way of dealing with everyday life.

I myself have to be careful not too get too cynical in my daily life and communications. Those of us who have not had a first hand experience with ET's, etc. often find it very difficult to deal with the realities that we know are being hidden from us. Don't take the sarcasm personally, as hard as that may be.

Thanks again for your contributions to Avalon, your thoughts are much appreciated.

My question for you is this:

I have heard that Steven Greer says he has in his possession "alien technology" that would put the question of the truth of UFO's to rest forever, yet he has refused to release his evidence as of yet. Why the delay? If i had that evidence, i would want it released to the public in a responsible manner as soon as possible.

The secret has bee hidden for too long...........

L/L 13

****************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"


I am fed up with the BS these cynics come out with, as are others. Petty discourteous people, seen this at other forums which were full of such types, ATS being one!!

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

I don't even know what a TOPS scheme is!

Thing is Watcher - you can't blame people for resorting to that sort of thing. I don't like cynical debunking of testimony - no matter HOW way out - but people want a few basics to go on.

Anyway - hope you're better now health wise - I got an email from someone a few weeks back saying you were not well.

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PM me if you want to say anything off forum.

Skepticism yes debunking no

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

BTW, please ask for proof when you next see Lear, Duncan, or any of the others

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I apologise, forgive me. You said something that intrigued me though.

Who were the other 4 UK officers?
Will they coroborate with your story?

You mentioned UK officers, which suggests there could have been officers from other countries.

Who were they?
Will they coroborate with your story?

Best regards,

Steve


Yes that was a term we 4 UK officers used, have a problem with that Steve? I suggest you refrain from the childish sarcasm or be reported for your obvious bias and lack of courtesey. Even a Mod should have qualities relevent to the task. Or did Bill and Kerry just let those Mods pick the job themselves? No wonder others would not bother to disclose on such forums, look at the reception they get.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

Are you suggesting that "Lear, Duncan, or any of the others" have been economical with the truth?

Best regards,

Steve


Skepticism yes debunking no

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

BTW, please ask for proof when you next see Lear, Duncan, or any of the others

[THEWATCHER]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I apologise, forgive me. You said something that intrigued me though.

Who were the other 4 UK officers?
Will they coroborate with your story?

You mentioned UK officers, which suggests there could have been officers from other countries.

Who were they?
Will they coroborate with your story?

Best regards,

Steve
Steve, it would be great IF you had ALL the relevent data then you would not be nitpicking, but the only way you can do that is by seeing the original files or at least some of the full interviews (files are 600+ A4 pages) There were 3 other UK officers, the rest were mostly US. I too have been waiting for others to come forward, especially since most of those involved would be in civvy street now and might decide to talk after all this time.
Corroboration is never an easy thing when such classified black budget programs are concerned. When Dr Greer said he had 2 UK people from working with this technology i was very pleased that someone else came forward and wanted to know whom that other person was. A great deal cannot be explained on this forum, its too open, too many unchecked guests each day, a reason why i hold back a great deal. Too many eyes to see whom might not have best interests at heart. With more data you might understand better, but i'm not going to rehash old ground here. I have offered freely copies of materials which will give the whole story without me having to relate it all over again. Once aware of the whole thing, then, only then please, OK?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Hi THEWATCHER,

Are you suggesting that "Lear, Duncan, or any of the others" have been economical with the truth?

Best regards,

Steve
NOT AT ALL, merely asking, as you have asked me, where is their proof?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I can't vouch for everybody, but in the case of John Lear, he cites names and co-witnesses, is not ashamed to show off photographs, nor is he reserved about showing documents. Check out the videos on Project Camelot.

As I said in some posts earlier and you actually agreed with me, that one cannot accept everthing to be the truth, however, that which has been proven by another witness, with potographic evidence or documentational evidence needs to be at least accepted.

I think your videos on Youtube could have used the moment to show this sort of evidence.

The two I watched were of a guy in a field and a series of designs telling us to wait....

I'm sure that one doesn't need to be Einstein to do the math.

Best regards,

Steve


NOT AT ALL, merely asking, as you have asked me, where is their proof?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[swordsmith]

Guess you gotta be dead like Phil Schneider for some people to get their final proof then...so much more convincing.

[Soul Sequence]

I'm sorry, but I need to add my 2 cents for what its worth. One, I just want to personally thank Mr. King for coming on this forum and sharing with us his experiences. What I dont understand is what's happened to most people on here and how easily we forget the mistakes of the past. For those of you that have been here for awhile may remember a couple of other "whistleblowers" that came here to share with us, these even were welcomed by Bill and Kerry. What did we do?....I was embarrassed as comments started flying at these guys and sure enough, they'd be done with it. Now come on, there's absolutely no reason to act like children here, we're all pretty much adults and we're here for a reason. I suggest we start to show a little respect rather than represent Bill and Kerry the way that we have been. Its not that hard to show a little respect. All we have to do is listen to the testimony being presented, then based on what was presented, genuinely ask questions on the information provided. If something you find elsewhere that wasnt presented by the whistleblower, respectfully ask on its merit. All that's happening here is rude behaviour and are disrespecting Mr.King. I'm not going to single out anyone as that's not my point, but as members and moderators of Avalon, lets not lose another excellent source from someone that's come forward.

Thanks for listening and I only wish all good will and best wishes,
Regards and Blessings,
Soul Sequence

[THEWATCHER]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I can't vouch for everybody, but in the case of John Lear, he cites names and co-witnesses, is not ashamed to show off photographs, nor is he reserved about showing documents. Check out the videos on Project Camelot.

As I said in some posts earlier and you actually agreed with me, that one cannot accept everthing to be the truth, however, that which has been proven by another witness, with potographic evidence or documentational evidence needs to be at least accepted.

I think your videos on Youtube could have used the moment to show this sort of evidence.

The two I watched were of a guy in a field and a series of designs telling us to wait....

I'm sure that one doesn't need to be Einstein to do the math.

Best regards,

Steve
And perhaps you should not judge by a 9 or 10 minute edited videoclip either. These are from interviews which give much more data. I have named names, locations, agencies, project names and personnel, staff etc etc etc within the files themselves. From the guy whom was in charge to head of security and much more. Naming other individuals whom were involved too such as the guy whom was in charge of Porton Down at the time.So i did release much in the way of such data if you had this material to hand you would see. The trouble is here, people are making assumptions on seeing such a tiny piece of the testimony, which were all done ad hoc, spur of moment, arranged hastily by Miles Johnston from Sky TV. The original Bases 1 taped interview ran for 4 hours and was edited down to 3, then further edited to its state now of whatever length.


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Guess you gotta be dead like Phil Schneider for some people to get their final proof then...so much more convincing.
seems so, and been close to that situation

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Orion11]

pretty weird for a moderator to act like that, steve.

i thought moderators were supposed to conduct themselves differently.

Thanks Barry.

(uh oh, hes gonna call me a Barry fan) when today is the first Ive heard of the gentlman. lol

[swordsmith]

I second that e-motion. Where is the moderators moderator? What exactly is your agenda Steve?

[Orion11]

I second that e-motion. Where is the moderators moderator? What exactly is your agenda Steve?

Yes Please.

this is what happens when "moderators" sign up for the job themselves , and not picked due to their humility and helpfulness after proving themselves. . :thumbdown:

[Jacqui D]

Hi Barry, well i'm ploughing through your data and i am trully interested, i make what i will of all info which feels right for me.
There is a lot of stuff that is focussed on the USA etc not much on Britain this has been a great break through for me because i have known many strange things happening here, the information given regarding the greenham common site does not surprise me one bit.
I have been aware that underground tunnels all over Britain are there but never realised quite where.
The one major one you are confiding in has been a shock to me as some of my family live very near.
I have also known that military take out these abduction scenarios also other than aliens it makes sense,this information was given to me in a dream state.
I asked about an incident in my own area that took place in the 1950's and the information came back pretty clear that it had been a form of mass mind control.
Thanks by the way Barry, i will be waiting for those cd's in the post.:wub2:

[swordsmith]

Interesting that the women of Greenham Common protesting were microwaved at the site and have had a high incidence of cancer as a result, many are no longer with us.

[mel]

Thank you for your time, its hard to be patient and must make you feel like not disclosing sometimes with the sheer frustration of blocked attitudes at times, but believe you need to be heard! and the world wants to hear you, even if they have forgotten they do! keep it real! PEACE X

[Steve_A]

Hi swordsmith,

the moderators moderator are the other moderators. I had to change the title of a tread I created today about the Presidential Elections, because one of the moderators thought it was over the top. I even moderated myself over on the Blossom Goodchild thread, because I thought I could be considered to have gone a little too far. We are consciencious people. :)

I have to admit I am a controversial bloke at times. I ask questions that others may not like to ask and I say what I think. I never disrespect people, am rude nor offensive or swear in the forum.

I once said to another poster in this thread, "I'm not sorry for what I said, however I'm sorry if you feel offended".

I like to keep energy in the conversation going. I could be a 'Yes' man and just say nothing, keep in the background and wait for 'offenders break the rules' of the forum blah, blah, blah, but I am also allowed to think and put in what I think, even if it does rub people up the wrong way. Life would be very dull if I didn't have a brain!

I don't see why people get so upset, if I make a comment, there is a brilliant opportunity to convince everybody with the evidence. After all it isn't me making the claim. The ônus is on the person who claims. Right?

If I, or anybody else is not satisfied, then we need to ask or 'rattle the cage' to get an answer. I don't see anything wrong in that. If I told you that I was the tallest man in the world, would you accept my word or want to at least see a photo?

Our friend Mr. King as told me he has over 600 pages of documents and photos that he gave away in CD roms some time back. Okay. I'm sure with his advanced technological knowledge he could upload the docs to the internet and let them loose as have all the others. (There I go again - but I'm not trying to be fascicious, just offering a solution). Bill Cooper did this, the USAF has done it, even the RAF have done it, Steven Greer did this they offered references of names, document numbers, places, timeframes, scanned documents. The internet is a powerful tool these days. Get the info out there.

I mean the answer is so simple. :)

So, to conclude, I have no hidden agenda, no spiteful side to my nature, I do have a need to be convinced and also I do have a sense of humour. If these are crimes, I'm guilty.

Best regards,

Steve


I second that e-motion. Where is the moderators moderator? What exactly is your agenda Steve?

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry, well i'm ploughing through your data and i am trully interested, i make what i will of all info which feels right for me.
There is a lot of stuff that is focussed on the USA etc not much on Britain this has been a great break through for me because i have known many strange things happening here, the information given regarding the greenham common site does not surprise me one bit.
I have been aware that underground tunnels all over Britain are there but never realised quite where.
The one major one you are confiding in has been a shock to me as some of my family live very near.
I have also known that military take out these abduction scenarios also other than aliens it makes sense,this information was given to me in a dream state.
I asked about an incident in my own area that took place in the 1950's and the information came back pretty clear that it had been a form of mass mind control.
Thanks by the way Barry, i will be waiting for those cd's in the post.:wub2:

All copied and ready for shipment, with my compliments

Best wishes,

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Hi swordsmith,

the moderators moderator are the other moderators. I had to change the title of a tread I created today about the Presidential Elections, because one of the moderators thought it was over the top. I even moderated myself over on the Blossom Goodchild thread, because I thought I could be considered to have gone a little too far. We are consciencious people. :)

I have to admit I am a controversial bloke at times. I ask questions that others may not like to ask and I say what I think. I never disrespect people, am rude nor offensive or swear in the forum.

I once said to another poster in this thread, "I'm not sorry for what I said, however I'm sorry if you feel offended".

I like to keep energy in the conversation going. I could be a 'Yes' man and just say nothing, keep in the background and wait for 'offenders break the rules' of the forum blah, blah, blah, but I am also allowed to think and put in what I think, even if it does rub people up the wrong way. Life would be very dull if I didn't have a brain!

I don't see why people get so upset, if I make a comment, there is a brilliant opportunity to convince everybody with the evidence. After all it isn't me making the claim. The ônus is on the person who claims. Right?

If I, or anybody else is not satisfied, then we need to ask or 'rattle the cage' to get an answer. I don't see anything wrong in that. If I told you that I was the tallest man in the world, would you accept my word or want to at least see a photo?

Our friend Mr. King as told me he has over 600 pages of documents and photos that he gave away in CD roms some time back. Okay. I'm sure with his advanced technological knowledge he could upload the docs to the internet and let them loose as have all the others. (There I go again - but I'm not trying to be fascicious, just offering a solution). Bill Cooper did this, the USAF has done it, even the RAF have done it, Steven Greer did this they offered references of names, document numbers, places, timeframes, scanned documents. The internet is a powerful tool these days. Get the info out there.

I mean the answer is so simple. :)

So, to conclude, I have no hidden agenda, no spiteful side to my nature, I do have a need to be convinced and also I do have a sense of humour. If these are crimes, I'm guilty.

Best regards,

Steve
In response. The Bases DVDs are over 3gig in size, i have no upload facility available to me to upload approx. 20gig or more of files. The Voice Cds are about 700mb, the Dave Starbuck interview MP3 is a smaller file but still too big for the hostings i have currently. Have no choice but to burn these onto discs and get them to people, FREE of charge, as it seems I've made my millions LOL LOL LOL LOL according to all. Again with the proof thing. How easy do you think it might be getting something substantial, something tangible? IF it were possible, as i said before, it would make headline news around the World, breaking the black budgets wide open. Just ask yourself, how easy it might be for say, a disgruntled NSA or CIA officer bringing actual documentation into the public domain? Its never happened and never will. Like many before me i cannot give that concrete proof, if i had it i would not be spending time trying to inform joe public. I'd be heading to the nearest TV station or newspaper that had the b**** to carry the story. Your approach might need adjusting Steve. Again, you set yourself up as a Mod and not hand picked by the owners for the job, not the way usually done but we are stuck with it. OK the onus might be on us but on the other hand its up to each and every one of you to at least get all the available data to hand before letting off rounds.


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Thank you for your time, its hard to be patient and must make you feel like not disclosing sometimes with the sheer frustration of blocked attitudes at times, but believe you need to be heard! and the world wants to hear you, even if they have forgotten they do! keep it real! PEACE X

You would not believe what I and others no doubt, have put up with over the years


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Interesting that the women of Greenham Common protesting were microwaved at the site and have had a high incidence of cancer as a result, many are no longer with us.


Yes strange that, Greenham being (was before closure) the Bravo entrance to the facility


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Jacqui D]

Barry have you heard of margaret Fry she is a well known ufo investigator?
I have my doubts of her authenticity i feel she may be working for the government.
She was a witness to a ufo sighting in Belvedere kent in the 1950's my sister was also a witness at the time she was just a kid then.
we were contacted by her she is quite old now but as far as i know still a constant ufo worker in her right.

She was looking for the kids that saw that ufo all those years ago even today her quest seems endless
My sister never disclosed that information, although the local paper runs the story still today after all those years ago.
We often wondered if my sister and her friends saw something they were not meant to.

I think this sighting was a mass mind control project, do you have any info on anything like that in this area?.

[THEWATCHER]

Thank you for your time, its hard to be patient and must make you feel like not disclosing sometimes with the sheer frustration of blocked attitudes at times, but believe you need to be heard! and the world wants to hear you, even if they have forgotten they do! keep it real! PEACE X


No problem, whilst I am still here, it gets frustrating trying to inform people, i have offered freely much more detailed data, i certainly am not going to go thru years of disclosure here on this forum, repeating myself time and time again


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Barry have you heard of margaret Fry she is a well known ufo investigator?
I have my doubts of her authenticity i feel she may be working for the government.
She was a witness to a ufo sighting in Belvedere kent in the 1950's my sister was also a witness at the time she was just a kid then.
we were contacted by her she is quite old now but as far as i know still a constant ufo worker in her right.

She was looking for the kids that saw that ufo all those years ago even today her quest seems endless
My sister never disclosed that information, although the local paper runs the story still today after all those years ago.
We often wondered if my sister and her friends saw something they were not meant to.

I think this sighting was a mass mind control project, do you have any info on anything like that in this area?.

yes i know Margaret, we used to communicate back in the heydays of the 70's, might have some papers too more recently, 90's. We compared notes a few times on investigations. My mind needs refreshing on that sighting before i could comment. My days as a ufo investigator ended in around 1980 and played lowkey after that. The FSR cd i am offering people shows the research i did within its pages


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[swordsmith]

I would be very interested in your and CDs Barry , please advise.

Steve, you can self proclaim that you are never this way or that, but if people tell you they percieve you as rude, you are.
I think you have been told most eloquently on this thread.
I do appreciate your money knowledge on the other hand, but that is not to say I know anything about that subject.

If Mr King choses to leave at this point it will most likely be due to the attitude you have condoned if not instigated. I think Mr King is worthy of much more interest and RESPECT than the majority of new age nonsense spouted herein and I am tired of endless Blossom Goodchild conjecture.

[Jacqui D]

Did you know Barry that her son is the famous Colin Fry the psychic!
I was taken back when i found this out and felt deflated to say the least.
Surely with a son with so much insight he could have given her information that she needed, i smell a red herring here my friend.
She wanted myself and my sister to meet some of her high ranking friends one a top air force pilot from years back he lived around the Port Lymth area in Kent.
We declined we didn't want to meet in someones house it did not feel right.
A little like your meet you had with the top brass all those years ago.

[THEWATCHER]

I would be very interested in your and CDs Barry , please advise.

Steve, you can self proclaim that you are never this way or that, but if people tell you they percieve you as rude, you are.
I think you have been told most eloquently on this thread.
I do appreciate your money knowledge on the other hand, but that is not to say I know anything about that subject.

If Mr King choses to leave at this point it will most likely be due to the attitude you have condoned if not instigated. I think Mr King is worthy of much more interest and RESPECT than the majority of new age nonsense spouted herein and I am tired of endless Blossom Goodchild conjecture.

Thankyou. Yes by way of putting everyone in the picture regarding my testimony i thought it a good idea to let people have the full data rather than the few minutes seen on youtube, which is hardly the basis of any real judgement to my validity. I am therefore offering free of charge the following..........copies of BASES ONE, BASES TWO PARTS ONE AND TWO, THE VOICE FILES pdf,THE VOICE FILES CD, over 600A4 pages as originals, THE JAMES CASBOLT INTERVIEW 2007 (for comparison), THE DAVE STARBUCK INTERVIEW 2007. See, i really do earn my millions LOL. Just let me have an addy where i can send them ok?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[swordsmith]

Thanks so much, its in your Pm box.

[THEWATCHER]

Did you know Barry that her son is the famous Colin Fry the psychic!
I was taken back when i found this out and felt deflated to say the least.
Surely with a son with so much insight he could have given her information that she needed, i smell a red herring here my friend.
She wanted myself and my sister to meet some of her high ranking friends one a top air force pilot from years back he lived around the Port Lymth area in Kent.
We declined we didn't want to meet in someones house it did not feel right.
A little like your meet you had with the top brass all those years ago.
No i did not know that, from all our conversations and correspondence she did not mention that. I find that a little odd to say the least


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Thanks so much, its in your Pm box.

okey dokey


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Deb]

Hi Deb,

As a moderator I need to keep the forum in check.

As an individual I have my opinions. We moderators are not clones nor do we share the same opinions, that's what makes this forum so interesting.

I made no slanderous remark about Barry. On the contrary I said that I was sure that he meant well. I don't apollogise for what I wrote, however I apologise if you were offended.

Best regards,

Steve

Dear Steve,

As a moderator, you are to keep the piece, and not to encourage. To speak your piece as a moderator you would need to pull yourself to a totally different level. So anyone here who has a sighting or a experience or history should not be backed up by a moderator, but the moderator keep piece without limited disturbance in a forum.

I understand where you are coming from, but as a mod your standards and views eminate discissions and conclusions on the forum, am I right or wrong? You have to seperate yourself from one or the other.

[Deb]

Hi Operator,

Your questions are very valid. I could answer your question "why" with a one word answer. However I apparently have already offended a Barry fan, (which is funny because you said he appeared unstable and got away scot free :) ) so I won't. Perhaps in a private message!

Best regards,

Steve

why would you say he got away scott free, could you pm me also?

[Deb]

Hi swordsmith,

the moderators moderator are the other moderators. I had to change the title of a tread I created today about the Presidential Elections, because one of the moderators thought it was over the top. I even moderated myself over on the Blossom Goodchild thread, because I thought I could be considered to have gone a little too far. We are consciencious people. :)

I have to admit I am a controversial bloke at times. I ask questions that others may not like to ask and I say what I think. I never disrespect people, am rude nor offensive or swear in the forum.

I once said to another poster in this thread, "I'm not sorry for what I said, however I'm sorry if you feel offended".

I like to keep energy in the conversation going. I could be a 'Yes' man and just say nothing, keep in the background and wait for 'offenders break the rules' of the forum blah, blah, blah, but I am also allowed to think and put in what I think, even if it does rub people up the wrong way. Life would be very dull if I didn't have a brain!

I don't see why people get so upset, if I make a comment, there is a brilliant opportunity to convince everybody with the evidence. After all it isn't me making the claim. The ônus is on the person who claims. Right?

If I, or anybody else is not satisfied, then we need to ask or 'rattle the cage' to get an answer. I don't see anything wrong in that. If I told you that I was the tallest man in the world, would you accept my word or want to at least see a photo?

Our friend Mr. King as told me he has over 600 pages of documents and photos that he gave away in CD roms some time back. Okay. I'm sure with his advanced technological knowledge he could upload the docs to the internet and let them loose as have all the others. (There I go again - but I'm not trying to be fascicious, just offering a solution). Bill Cooper did this, the USAF has done it, even the RAF have done it, Steven Greer did this they offered references of names, document numbers, places, timeframes, scanned documents. The internet is a powerful tool these days. Get the info out there.

I mean the answer is so simple. :)

So, to conclude, I have no hidden agenda, no spiteful side to my nature, I do have a need to be convinced and also I do have a sense of humour. If these are crimes, I'm guilty.

Best regards,

Steve

Steve, its good you ask questions, and don't be a yes man by no means.

[THEWATCHER]

Oh boy!! Now i'm unstable as well LOL LOL LOL

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Orion11]

well,
fwiw Barry~ I dont give my address to those who I feel are unstable. lol

I do however, comment to those who I feel may be.. slightly. ;)

Man, What you are doing is great Barry.

If there was a bow-to-you smiley, I would use it here < > lol

Praises

[THEWATCHER]

well,
fwiw Barry~ I dont give my address to those who I feel are unstable. lol

I do however, comment to those who I feel may be.. slightly. ;)

Man, What you are doing is great Barry.

If there was a bow-to-you smiley, I would use it here < > lol

Praises


Thankyou, appreciate your kind words, better watch out though, Steve might think I have you mindcontrolled:lol3:


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Orion11]

Thankyou, appreciate your kind words, better watch out though, Steve might think I have you mindcontrolled:lol3:


THE WATCHER AKA BMK


:lol3:

oh dear! i better be careful! :mfr_lol:

and thank you!
the appreciation comes back to you ten fold, mate.
:wub2:

[utopiated]

Miles Johnston from Sky TV. The original Bases 1 taped interview ran for 4 hours and was edited down to 3, then further edited to its state now of whatever length.[/B]

THE WATCHER AKA BMK


I have asked, many moons back, Miles for the full Bases DVD/video. I spoke to him for 2 hours one night - still have the audio somewhere.

Nothing ever came of it.

I *do* however have the documents - which is I presume what is being referred to. I can't recall seeing names of 4 other officers in that though. I'll have another look through.

For all those ppl having a go at Steve - you have to understand that it works both ways. There is nothing wrong with trying to build more evidence for a claim. This field has it's share of delusions and deluded people - I have no idea if BK is one - but this is the case.

I find it mad I'm making this sort of statement - I'm usually fighting the debunkers off!!
-

[Antaletriangle]

Very curious Barry as to the vibe you got from the reptilian you walked past in the base,(the one with the two guards present with it).What size was it and did it communicate telepathically in any way?Cheers for reading.

[utopiated]

Guess you gotta be dead like Phil Schneider for some people to get their final proof then...so much more convincing.

That's a pointless, throwaway comment and misses the point I was making.

Like many people in this area - Phil Schneider only started getting more attention after his death. It's sad and stupid that it's got to this stage. However as I said, Schneider had a lot of material to back his claims in the few years he braved the lecture circuits in the USA.


<EDIT> - How does someone get 550 posts on a forum that's been running a few weeks???!

[Antaletriangle]

That's a pointless, throwaway comment and misses the point I was making.

Like many people in this area - Phil Schneider only started getting more attention after his death. It's sad and stupid that it's got to this stage. However as I said, Schneider had a lot of material to back his claims in the few years he braved the lecture circuits in the USA.


<EDIT> - How does someone get 550 posts on a forum that's been running a few weeks???!

Is this last comment meant for me jack?lol. PHONETICAL conversation ensues- Conner slape-bane off 'ere fer a while recently-made loads o news/link posts when it initially started then the forum was all shaken up and split dine the middle-so i laid off fer a couple o' wiks-otherwise i'd have been at the 1,000 mark by now jack!lol???!!

[Greg10036]

BMK, The Watcher. I enjoy your story and would very much like to read your data. Is there any way I could do this? Much appreciation.
Greg

[Antaletriangle]

I don't know whether or not anyone has come across this before but it's a site with U.K. secret bases-Alan turnbull.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan-turnbull/secret3.htm#secret-junctions

[Orion11]

boy, after going all through this thread again..

i really have not seen a moderator on any site act like steve a.

Completely rediculous.

Do they not tell mods what their jobs are and how to conduct thermselves and MODERATE??? or did steve here miss the memo?

Bad enough half the people here act rediculous and totally disrespectful,
Now theres a MOD acting that way?

Seriously? :yikes:


guess thats what happens when members raise their hand for the job instead of being chosen for their abilities.

Unreal man.

You oughtta be proud steve. real nice pal.

thumbs up big guy. :thumb_yello:

i think ATS might miss you...

then again, maybe not .

[Orion11]

.

[Orion11]

Hey Barry, and everyone else...

Well, Ive spent the better part of this day researching Mr.King,
i do not like to "toot my own horn" as some would say, but my intuition has always been pretty on spot since I can remember.
In fact I dont think it has ever steered me wrong.

Sure Ive been fooled by a couple hoaxed videos in the past, who hasnt?
and I am by no means an expert, But after watching all I could find with Barry, and reading as much as I possibly can,
I gotta say, I have not gotten one weird feeling about him.
His manurisms, his attitude, his intelligence, etc, etc.. all seem very very kosher and humble.

I usually pick up oddities about someone fairly fast, (there i go tootin my own horn again) lol..

but for whatever its worth,
I dont doubt Mr.King for a minute.
Theres no reason to.

I for one, am extremely glad i learnd of this gentleman,
and to top it all of, he is sending you people free information, that you seek on a daily basis....

in fact, I have an easier time believing this man than I do many of the other people interviewd by kerry and bill.
and I believe alot of that stuff as well, some of it not soo much.

But really, I havent heard one thing from Mr.King that sounds fishy or too "out there".

Just thought Id add my peace after spending some time taking alot of this in.
(not like its going to matter or make a difference with some), but its cool.

i also feel very fortunate and lucky to be receiving the gift that Barry is offering out of the goodness of his heart. I cant wait! :D

so again, Thanks Barry. You are Golden, my friend.

Blessings

[THEWATCHER]

I have asked, many moons back, Miles for the full Bases DVD/video. I spoke to him for 2 hours one night - still have the audio somewhere.

Nothing ever came of it.
only 2 hours? lol

I *do* however have the documents - which is I presume what is being referred to. I can't recall seeing names of 4 other officers in that though. I'll have another look through.
the names are there, Harry Reeder being one, ring any bells?

For all those ppl having a go at Steve - you have to understand that it works both ways. There is nothing wrong with trying to build more evidence for a claim. This field has it's share of delusions and deluded people - I have no idea if BK is one - but this is the case.
I have been called unstable it seems, dare say a host of other names over the years, goes with the terrotory i guess. I care not, for 14 years i have disclosed this data, you would think if its a load of BS i would have given up years ago?

I find it mad I'm making this sort of statement - I'm usually fighting the debunkers off!!
-
Skeptics are only using their semi open minds, Debunkers have yet to find their minds


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[THEWATCHER]

Very curious Barry as to the vibe you got from the reptilian you walked past in the base,(the one with the two guards present with it).What size was it and did it communicate telepathically in any way?Cheers for reading.
as mentioned in testimony filming i did for Dr Greer on this aspect, i was in an area i was not supposed to be in, i was caught off guard by the sudden appearance of this being with the two escorts. It happened very quickly, bad looks from the escorts, no interaction from the being, i cannot say now after all this time with certainty but guess it unerved me considerably, a sort of WTF!! It was very tall, well over 6ft.

THE WATCHER IS WATCHING

[Jacqui D]

[QUOTE=Orion11;52712]Hey Barry, and everyone else...

Well, Ive spent the better part of this day researching Mr.King,
i do not like to "toot my own horn" as some would say, but my intuition has always been pretty on spot since I can remember.
In fact I dont think it has ever steered me wrong.

Sure Ive been fooled by a couple hoaxed videos in the past, who hasnt?
and I am by no means an expert, But after watching all I could find with Barry, and reading as much as I possibly can,
I gotta say, I have not gotten one weird feeling about him.
His manurisms, his attitude, his intelligence, etc, etc.. all seem very very kosher and humble.

I usually pick up oddities about someone fairly fast, (there i go tootin my own horn again) lol..

Yeah ditto to all that.
You seem a genuine guy Barry and i can't wait till i get my vids.
Still ploughing all through your writing i will there get there lol!!

What's great is that we have finally found a british bloke telling us all this i'm fed up with the Americans having all the info and the brits being left in the dark so to speak and also we know the places where these underground bunkers exist.
Pretty scary stuff though it does explain a lot of weird stuff about my own relatives who live right in the Berkshire area around greenham common.
Always said my relations were a load of aliens lol!!! no sorry about that couldn't help myself no seriously they have been telling me things for years.
Even had a neice who worked at greenham common, on some kind of assembly line i think what was she making i wonder i think it was something to do with weapons! i remember she said she had to sign the official secrets act.
Love to know more Barry, your a real gent and i commend you for coming out like you have.
I would love to have a private chat about an abduction scenario i had about 6 months ago!:shocked:

[THEWATCHER]

BMK, The Watcher. I enjoy your story and would very much like to read your data. Is there any way I could do this? Much appreciation.
Greg
A number of ways yes, freely available is a link to a pdf file a friend put together, this gives data, not as much as the original files of course, they were put on 2 cds by Miles awhile back. These are available, just as is other materials i have listed elsewhere.

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[THEWATCHER]

[QUOTE=Orion11;52712]Hey Barry, and everyone else...

Well, Ive spent the better part of this day researching Mr.King,
i do not like to "toot my own horn" as some would say, but my intuition has always been pretty on spot since I can remember.
In fact I dont think it has ever steered me wrong.

Sure Ive been fooled by a couple hoaxed videos in the past, who hasnt?
and I am by no means an expert, But after watching all I could find with Barry, and reading as much as I possibly can,
I gotta say, I have not gotten one weird feeling about him.
His manurisms, his attitude, his intelligence, etc, etc.. all seem very very kosher and humble.

I usually pick up oddities about someone fairly fast, (there i go tootin my own horn again) lol..

Yeah ditto to all that.
You seem a genuine guy Barry and i can't wait till i get my vids.
Still ploughing all through your writing i will there get there lol!!

What's great is that we have finally found a british bloke telling us all this i'm fed up with the Americans having all the info and the brits being left in the dark so to speak and also we know the places where these underground bunkers exist.
Pretty scary stuff though it does explain a lot of weird stuff about my own relatives who live right in the Berkshire area around greenham common.
Always said my relations were a load of aliens lol!!! no sorry about that couldn't help myself no seriously they have been telling me things for years.
Even had a neice who worked at greenham common, on some kind of assembly line i think what was she making i wonder i think it was something to do with weapons! i remember she said she had to sign the official secrets act.
Love to know more Barry, your a real gent and i commend you for coming out like you have.
I would love to have a private chat about an abduction scenario i had about 6 months ago!:shocked:

Thankyou all, i appreciate that. By all means i'd like to hear about that scenario. Just how we go about it?


Regards

THE WATCHER IS WATCHING

[Jacqui D]

I will send you a private message if you like.

[THEWATCHER]

I will send you a private message if you like.

thankyou, and to let you know your discs will be sent tomorrow Friday:original:


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[Ara]

Hey Barry, and everyone else...

Well, Ive spent the better part of this day researching Mr.King,
i do not like to "toot my own horn" as some would say, but my intuition has always been pretty on spot since I can remember.
In fact I dont think it has ever steered me wrong.

Sure Ive been fooled by a couple hoaxed videos in the past, who hasnt?
and I am by no means an expert, But after watching all I could find with Barry, and reading as much as I possibly can,
I gotta say, I have not gotten one weird feeling about him.
His manurisms, his attitude, his intelligence, etc, etc.. all seem very very kosher and humble.

I usually pick up oddities about someone fairly fast, (there i go tootin my own horn again) lol..

but for whatever its worth,
I dont doubt Mr.King for a minute.
Theres no reason to.

I for one, am extremely glad i learnd of this gentleman,
and to top it all of, he is sending you people free information, that you seek on a daily basis....

in fact, I have an easier time believing this man than I do many of the other people interviewd by kerry and bill.
and I believe alot of that stuff as well, some of it not soo much.

But really, I havent heard one thing from Mr.King that sounds fishy or too "out there".

Just thought Id add my peace after spending some time taking alot of this in.
(not like its going to matter or make a difference with some), but its cool.

i also feel very fortunate and lucky to be receiving the gift that Barry is offering out of the goodness of his heart. I cant wait! :D

so again, Thanks Barry. You are Golden, my friend.

Blessings

Orion11, I agree with you. Barry has been extremely warm to all who have approached him plus he maintains his dignity no matter what he is dealing with.

And he is the only whistleblower ,whom I am aware of, willing to send people copies of DVDs, Cds etc at no cost to the person. (Many thanks:original:)

I am yet to meet another with such generosity.

Oh how strange that you should refer to Barry as "Golden" as for the past couple of days I have been thinking how Barry's information is the Golden Thread which weaves it all together.:original:

All the Best
Ara

[Antaletriangle]

I should say it would unnerve anyone unprepared-something like this?Height and feature?
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=17&pictureid=3674

[Orion11]

Hi Ara! :)

I agree,

I was thinking the same thing pretty much.....

thinking that all of this stuff I have been learning of and researching for a couple years, always felt like there was allot missing......

and now, after learning of Barry and researching all I can...

it does seem like his information is filling a huge gap that Ive always felt was there....

of course theres still huge gaps ,
But Mr.Kings information does make allot of the things that Ive wondered about make allot more sense.

I am grateful to have learned of this Man,
and cant wait to dive in deeper.... even if the water is ice cold or boiling.. Im hoppin in. lol

Thanks Ara, you are Golden also my friend. :D

Bless
Andy

[fawziya]

Hi Barry,

Thank you for your patience, courage, persistance & generosity. I'm a little familiar with a small bit of your testimony through youtube.com.

I've recently come accross a fabulous book written by David Icke on the topic of the"global conspiracy". Facinating read on (the form) of matter, origins of the current version(s) of mankind, the meaning of "blue blood" & the relation to aristocracy, the truth about the abundance of diamonds, etc.

The most fascinating story I've learned to date(besides the "creation" of man as we know it??), is the story of a long-gone Africa utopia as explained by the African shaman, Credo Mutwa. Do you know of his story? What is your opinion on his testimony?

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,

Thank you for your patience, courage, persistance & generosity. I'm a little familiar with a small bit of your testimony through youtube.com.

I've recently come accross a fabulous book written by David Icke on the topic of the"global conspiracy". Facinating read on (the form) of matter, origins of the current version(s) of mankind, the meaning of "blue blood" & the relation to aristocracy, the truth about the abundance of diamonds, etc.

The most fascinating story I've learned to date(besides the "creation" of man as we know it??), is the story of a long-gone Africa utopia as explained by the African shaman, Credo Mutwa. Do you know of his story? What is your opinion on his testimony?

I like David, presents good strong data and is not afraid to tell it straight. I have supplied data to him some years back which he mentions in one of his books. He has a way with words and puts across everything so well, well researched, he knows his onions. That particular story rings bells, will do a little refresher course myself on that and comment another time if i may

Warmest regards


THE WATCHER IS WATCHING

[Antaletriangle]

Big Dave Icke's a great guy-enlightening,he places a candle in a darkened room.

[fawziya]

Barry, BARRY,

My post of today @ 2:23 pm PST DISAPPEARED...SIMPLY DISAPPEARED from the NEW POSTS section on Avalon. I saw it & then IT WAS GONE.

I've already been censored once...WHAT IS GOING ON?

IF CENSORSHIP IS THE "NORM", perhaps EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW.

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, BARRY,

My post of today @ 2:23 pm PST DISAPPEARED...SIMPLY DISAPPEARED from the NEW POSTS section on Avalon. I saw it & then IT WAS GONE.

I've already been censored once...WHAT IS GOING ON?

IF CENSORSHIP IS THE "NORM", perhaps EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW.

Can you briefly state what it was concerning please? You can always send PM or email me



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[Jacqui D]

Hi Barry,
Been reading your stuff now for two days Phew!!! Wow!! don't know what to say, pretty scary stuff.
A lot of the reading was a little to near the truth to some of the experiences i and my family have had.
Abduction scenarios, men in black, helicopters!
I'ts not until this info is put down infront of you, you realise you are not going crazy.
I was just agreeing with everything you were saying, it did not seem too off the wall for me it just made sense.
Are we putting ourselves in danger contacting you?:eyes:

[THEWATCHER]

Hi Barry,
Been reading your stuff now for two days Phew!!! Wow!! don't know what to say, pretty scary stuff.
A lot of the reading was a little to near the truth to some of the experiences i and my family have had.
Abduction scenarios, men in black, helicopters!
I'ts not until this info is put down infront of you, you realise you are not going crazy.
I was just agreeing with everything you were saying, it did not seem too off the wall for me it just made sense.
Are we putting ourselves in danger contacting you?:eyes:
also please take into consideration i cannot state that much here on an open forum so you are getting part of the picture. I have been asked that question a number of times over the years. NO, no one here is in any danger or trouble by talking to me


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[Ara]

Hi Ara! :)

I agree,

I was thinking the same thing pretty much.....

thinking that all of this stuff I have been learning of and researching for a couple years, always felt like there was allot missing......

and now, after learning of Barry and researching all I can...

it does seem like his information is filling a huge gap that Ive always felt was there....

of course theres still huge gaps ,
But Mr.Kings information does make allot of the things that Ive wondered about make allot more sense.

I am grateful to have learned of this Man,
and cant wait to dive in deeper.... even if the water is ice cold or boiling.. Im hoppin in. lol

Thanks Ara, you are Golden also my friend. :D

Bless
Andy

Oh Andy you sweet thing! Thank you for the lovely compliment. :flowers2::biggrin2:

All the Best
Ara

[Orion11]

most welcome.
:huglove:

[Mrs. Robinson]

Hello Mr. King or Barry if I may,
I have been a truth seeker for most of my 50+ yrs. and I am supposing that all serious truth seekers will eventually find you also.....I for one am an example of the 'general public' I think you were hoping this material would get out to?

My never ending question when I read and research testimonies of the secret gov. ops, is 'Great! Now what do I do with this information"? LOL I get so blood boiling angry to know that the NSA is untouchable.....In your estimation Barry, Is there any way to stop the abductions....the images of human body parts in blood vats (Dulce) just haunts me....are you a 'hopeful person' for a future.......

I would just like to know your 'inner' thoughts as much as you'd like to share....


warmly,

Deb

[THEWATCHER]

Hello Mr. King or Barry if I may,
I have been a truth seeker for most of my 50+ yrs. and I am supposing that all serious truth seekers will eventually find you also.....I for one am an example of the 'general public' I think you were hoping this material would get out to?
During the first phase of disclosure the original files were sent out to yes the general public, but also to researchers, the media, various organisations and even military personnel whom covertly wanted to know what was going on. Eventually yes i hope.

My never ending question when I read and research testimonies of the secret gov. ops, is 'Great! Now what do I do with this information"? LOL I get so blood boiling angry to know that the NSA is untouchable.....In your estimation Barry, Is there any way to stop the abductions....the images of human body parts in blood vats (Dulce) just haunts me....are you a 'hopeful person' for a future.......
after all the threats, intimidation and harassment yes i continue, without hope i would have given up years ago

I would just like to know your 'inner' thoughts as much as you'd like to share....
over the years i have managed to build up more and more contacts, each providing assistance along the lonely and often dangerous road called disclosure. I will never cease to try and awaken the public to these horrors, i fight for truth justice and freedom and will die for those causes if necessary (having come close to that more than once).


warmly,

Deb

Warmest regards


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[Orion11]

Barry, my friend,

im just stopping to say that you rock! :huglove: lol

[THEWATCHER]

Barry, my friend,

im just stopping to say that you rock! :huglove: lol

thankyou for that but i'm no one special, just a bloke trying to prise open those secrecy doors and let the world see whats going on


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[THEWATCHER]

Just for reference, link to British Library holdings of original 1994 to 2000 The Voice Files

http://catalogue.bl.uk/F/QMA3749YC4L55CSU1DN9XAHVDLUMPCAU9SQXVQM15H5QJN7H17-08190?func=direct&doc_number=011773006


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[gordon]

Is TheWatcher fans of the Xfiles t.v show?

[THEWATCHER]

Is TheWatcher fans of the Xfiles t.v show?

LOL the X-Files were just that, fictional TV, interesting at times absurd at others. I also watched Gerry Andersons 'UFO', 'Dark Skies', 'Project Ufo' and a host of others. Inferring something here?:original:

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[Ara]

Barry what do you think of this theory that certain information is channelled/beamed (or whatever the means) to people in the creative arts, such as writers, who then weave that information into movies, tv series, books etc for those 'with eyes to see and ears to hear' to pick up?

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

Barry what do you think of this theory that certain information is channelled/beamed (or whatever the means) to people in the creative arts, such as writers, who then weave that information into movies, tv series, books etc for those 'with eyes to see and ears to hear' to pick up?

All the Best
Ara
Inspiration like this i have no doubt comes from a source intending to be used as indoctrination into accepting certain things, no doubt little clues are to be found here and there within mainstream media especially films. One in particular being CE3K

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[Ara]

According to Laura Knight's channelling material there is an "army of psychic projectors" who send out information to those in the creative arts.

It's referred to as Project Awaken.

Apparently these psychic projectors are the descendants ( and hybrids ) of a race of Beings who were brought to this planet many millenia ago. They reportedly have supreme psychic abiilites.

Their agenda is to awaken people to the thought pattern that ETs/Aliens are real.

Indoctrination as you say. This info correlates to your info regarding mind programming and indoctrination.

Apparently there are two opposing hierarchial groups participating in this project, those with good intent and those without. That's probably why there is so much confusion here as to who truly has the human races' best interests at heart and who do not.

When everyone is dishing out the dirt on the other and setting up scenarios to leave false impressions, no wonder confusion reigns here.

In reference to CE3K I thought it was interesting that Light and Sound were used as a precurser to the "Light ship" appearing.

Light and Sound have been used for millenia in programming.

Barry do you know of the "army of psychic projectors" I've referenced above?

All the Best
Ara

[Ara]

Barry have you heard of Brian Scott? He reportedly had years of 'experiences' with what appeared to be Greys and another group of Entities (who projected various 'identities' of themselves, from a tall grey to red haired Nordic.)

In a Book written about Brian's experiences is this :

The Leader of the Grey Beings speaks: "That which we found here, we have lifted to Nous two. Thus the great civilizations of man," he said in human voice."What are we to do?" We need a new body for 12 strand DNA".


The Grey Leader: " We have prepared 5 Hybrids that will thrive on Earth. The time of hu-man on the land-finished.

Hybrid phase-out underway.

The Grey Leader: All hu-man plantations must be phased out, and the land prepared for a new-man, of US-12 STRAND DNA- and their children".

Brian saw a picture of a hybrid..part human part alien....it had a large domed head, blue eyes and human pink skin.

I remember reading about some RV who saw beings described above in what seemed to be stasis condition. I think they were also seen on Mars when that was RVd.

Maybe they were another form of PLF?

Or a mass of bodies waiting for animation?

Barry have you any knowledge of the above? Are you aware of any RV sessions where a group of Beings were viewed in stasis or waiting to be animated?

Speaking about 'animation', if the Off Planet Intelligences have advanced technology and superior genetic knowledge, are they re-animating people/Beings who are not alive? (any knowledge of this Barry?)

Dan Burisch speaks of the negative J-Rods (future 'grey' humans) as re-animating dead people and then the J-Rods ''wearing those bodies' in order to interact with humans.

Miriam Delicardo also spoke about an experience with a MIB and her description of how it moved and reacted mimicked Dan Burisch's testimony. The MIB was very interested in Miriam and if Miriam is a souped-up Human of the Tall Blonds then Miriam's Tall Blond Aliens may be the Orion's Dan Burisch speaks of or a group of earlier precursor humans?

Dan Burisch did mention that some humans went to the Sirius Star System so maybe they are the Nordic-Sirians? Isn't Michael St Clair of this lineage?

I hope you don't mind me sharing where the info comes from which leads to my questions for you Barry. :partytime2:

As I've said before I think your testimony, your knowledge is the thread which pulls all these other threads of information together so anything you can share 'at this time' :wink2: is very much appreciated.

All the Best
Ara

[THEWATCHER]

According to Laura Knight's channelling material there is an "army of psychic projectors" who send out information to those in the creative arts.

It's referred to as Project Awaken.

Apparently these psychic projectors are the descendants ( and hybrids ) of a race of Beings who were brought to this planet many millenia ago. They reportedly have supreme psychic abiilites.

Their agenda is to awaken people to the thought pattern that ETs/Aliens are real.

Indoctrination as you say. This info correlates to your info regarding mind programming and indoctrination.

Apparently there are two opposing hierarchial groups participating in this project, those with good intent and those without. That's probably why there is so much confusion here as to who truly has the human races' best interests at heart and who do not.

When everyone is dishing out the dirt on the other and setting up scenarios to leave false impressions, no wonder confusion reigns here.

In reference to CE3K I thought it was interesting that Light and Sound were used as a precurser to the "Light ship" appearing.

Light and Sound have been used for millenia in programming.

Barry do you know of the "army of psychic projectors" I've referenced above?

All the Best
Ara


Nope sorry, new to me


THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

Barry have you heard of Brian Scott? He reportedly had years of 'experiences' with what appeared to be Greys and another group of Entities (who projected various 'identities' of themselves, from a tall grey to red haired Nordic.)
the name rings a distant bell

In a Book written about Brian's experiences is this :

The Leader of the Grey Beings speaks: "That which we found here, we have lifted to Nous two. Thus the great civilizations of man," he said in human voice."What are we to do?" We need a new body for 12 strand DNA".


The Grey Leader: " We have prepared 5 Hybrids that will thrive on Earth. The time of hu-man on the land-finished.

Hybrid phase-out underway.

The Grey Leader: All hu-man plantations must be phased out, and the land prepared for a new-man, of US-12 STRAND DNA- and their children".

Brian saw a picture of a hybrid..part human part alien....it had a large domed head, blue eyes and human pink skin.

I remember reading about some RV who saw beings described above in what seemed to be stasis condition. I think they were also seen on Mars when that was RVd.

Maybe they were another form of PLF?
I believe the remit of PLFs is purely drones programmed, of course the sophistication level would no doubt have increased considerably in last 27 years, anyones guess really

Or a mass of bodies waiting for animation?
possible

Barry have you any knowledge of the above? Are you aware of any RV sessions where a group of Beings were viewed in stasis or waiting to be animated?
not as such as the main protocols we followed at that time were cold war targets, plus other things but not to do with the topic covered here, another group possibly

Speaking about 'animation', if the Off Planet Intelligences have advanced technology and superior genetic knowledge, are they re-animating people/Beings who are not alive? (any knowledge of this Barry?)
beyond my knowledge sorry

Dan Burisch speaks of the negative J-Rods (future 'grey' humans) as re-animating dead people and then the J-Rods ''wearing those bodies' in order to interact with humans.

Miriam Delicardo also spoke about an experience with a MIB and her description of how it moved and reacted mimicked Dan Burisch's testimony. The MIB was very interested in Miriam and if Miriam is a souped-up Human of the Tall Blonds then Miriam's Tall Blond Aliens may be the Orion's Dan Burisch speaks of or a group of earlier precursor humans?
that would fit the bill yes

Dan Burisch did mention that some humans went to the Sirius Star System so maybe they are the Nordic-Sirians? Isn't Michael St Clair of this lineage?
not known to me sorry

I hope you don't mind me sharing where the info comes from which leads to my questions for you Barry. :partytime2:
questions are fine, as long as its within my knowledge parameters or experience, i can answer, i do not like guessing

As I've said before I think your testimony, your knowledge is the thread which pulls all these other threads of information together so anything you can share 'at this time' :wink2: is very much appreciated.

All the Best
Ara

you are very welcome

THE WATCHER

[THEWATCHER]

It appears that when i sent copies of DVD discs, in order to view them on PCs i included the software Cyberlink PowerDVD. BUT i forgot to include the serial number in order to install that software. My apologies for this oversight. If you wish to receive that serial please PM me.


Regards



THE WATCHER

[Deb]

boy, after going all through this thread again..

i really have not seen a moderator on any site act like steve a.

Completely rediculous.

Do they not tell mods what their jobs are and how to conduct thermselves and MODERATE??? or did steve here miss the memo?

Bad enough half the people here act rediculous and totally disrespectful,
Now theres a MOD acting that way?

Seriously? :yikes:


guess thats what happens when members raise their hand for the job instead of being chosen for their abilities.

Unreal man.

You oughtta be proud steve. real nice pal.

thumbs up big guy. :thumb_yello:

i think ATS might miss you...

then again, maybe not .

I would not be that hard on Steve, be it he believes or not. Moderator position may be new to him and give him some time, don't be so hard on him either is all I say. As for the voice files and the interviews are very interesting and find them very valuable in my research over the years. Having contact with Barry, I find him to be a very credible person and has stuck with his research and experiences from the 1970's to present. Forget about Casbolt, he's explained that situation many times over.

[THEWATCHER]

another batch of packages were sent out today, another is in process of being copied, so please, all those whom have requested these, sorry for any delays but you will receive yours asap. Regards


THE WATCHER

[kopenhagen]

Please do not associate myself with those you see doing the lecture circuits, making money from books, video or DVD sales whatever. I have made not one penny from this, in fact its cost me a small fortune over the years, supplying copies of the files in the 90's to all and sundry globally. .

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

if you are really B King, could you pls tell us
why Gov cooperates with E.T?
what 's Alien agenda?
who controls who?
is it true that the Greys infiltrate into US Gov?
W Bush is cloned?
how many Underground bases involve with Gov-E.T?
how many Greys are there on our planet?

thank you for your time

[THEWATCHER]

if you are really B King, could you pls tell us
why Gov cooperates with E.T?
what 's Alien agenda?
who controls who?
is it true that the Greys infiltrate into US Gov?
W Bush is cloned?
how many Underground bases involve with Gov-E.T?
how many Greys are there on our planet?

thank you for your time
LOL the last time i looked in the mirror, sure enough its me LOL
Unfortunately your questions are vague, in order for me to answer i'd need more specifics, but for now.......which alien race precisely? as each has own agenda. Thats difficult to say in few words, a lot of controlling is done by our own governments. I have not personally seen evidence of infiltration no. No i think Bush is just a human dummy not a clone. Several facilities globally. Impossible to give numbers as at any given moment any here fluctuate in numbers. Hope i have helped here

Regards, THE WATCHER

[shanonatime]

we are all the powers that be

isn't that what many of you keep teaching?

:-)

[THEWATCHER]

we are all the powers that be

isn't that what many of you keep teaching?

:-)

Many of us, whom precisely is us? I'm certainly not part of the PTB, I hope i have proved that here


THE WATCHER

[shanonatime]

Many of us, whom precisely is us? I'm certainly not part of the PTB, I hope i have proved that here


THE WATCHER

didn't mean that in a bad way... meant... many people here have been teaching us we have the power to change things... by "powers that be"- i didn't mean- one of THEM- one of the super evil- i meant just- we all have power within that we don't even tap- and have to start learning how to use it...well i know i do- sorry if didn't use my words correctly. these forums can be difficult that way sometimes- especially among people with feelings, like all of us... so i do apologize if my words were not received correctly- across the board!

[THEWATCHER]

didn't mean that in a bad way... meant... many people here have been teaching us we have the power to change things... by "powers that be"- i didn't mean- one of THEM- one of the super evil- i meant just- we all have power within that we don't even tap- and have to start learning how to use it...well i know i do- sorry if didn't use my words correctly. these forums can be difficult that way sometimes- especially among people with feelings, like all of us... so i do apologize if my words were not received correctly- across the board!
I see, Ok, my apologies. Yes indeed change is within all of us, openness and awakening of insights enabling us to see whats really going on and how to begin change is indeed powered within each and every one of us. A true open mind starts this process

Warmest regards


THE WATCHER

[day]

There are a lot of people who have put their lives and reputations on the line to disclose their experiences and healing from those experiences.

research Karla Turner who mysteriously died of cancer, you can find her easily by googling her name -- Barb Bartholic and James Bartley --- all of whom are putting their lives on the line to reach out to people, share their stories and promote healing.

the problem seems to be that along with disclosing information there is just as much if not more of disinfo going around so that everything becomes subjective.

What had these people gained by disclosing and writing about it? How can we know what is disinfo and what is real?

Why would Barry King desire to continue his disclosure if he is being harrassed and had his life on the line for disclosing when disinfo is trying to make any who disclose seem crackers?

Perhaps more people would come forward with their stories and we could learn from them if they did not have to go through being called a liar or doing so for money, or having their homes, families and financial well being at risk.

What good is it to label people either a fan or nut when the whole world is being affected? do the research and decide if we are going to make progress by pretending its not real and quickly moving on to other things because it does not seem to effect us directly.

if one goes through all of the videos on project camelot and further researches all the quiet but often dead people who have risked their lives to disclose what will people make of it then? Will their fear for their safety? will they learn about having et experiences in their own lives once the veil has been lifted?

Perhaps the reality of our spiritual growth can direct us on a grounded search, and be able to responsibly discern and find what we can do for protection....that to me seems paramount