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AMA-GI
10-14-2008, 08:49 AM
Hi friends,

I have found this piece of information tht i feel all should know. I do not want to be classed as a scare mongerer, but i do think people should know.
Aparently in certain parts of america peoples houses/post boxes have a fema tag on them which is either red, blue or yellow.
I do not live in the US so i cannot verify this but maybe some of you can.

Here is the list of colours and their meanings. the site below goes into more detail.

We are all on a Red or Blue list somewhere, those on the red list will be woken at 4am and taken to the camps and probably killed.

Red List - These people are the enemies of the NWO. They are the leaders of patriot groups, outspoken ministers, outspoken talk show hosts, community leaders, and even probably NET leaders. These people will be dragged out of their homes at 4:00 am and will be taken to FEMA detention centers and killed. This will take place approximately 2 weeks before martial law is enforced.

Blue List - these are also enemies of the NWO, but are followers of the Red List folks. These people will be rounded up after martial law is in place, and will be taken to the detention centers and 're-educated'. Various mind-control techniques will used on them. Most will not survive this. Mr. Springmeier was not specific on exactly who was on the Blue List, but I would guess that people such as you and I are on that list.

Yellow List - these are citizens who know nothing about the NWO and don't want to know. They are considered to be no threat at all and will be instructed as to how to behave and will most likely do whatever they are told. Unfortunately there are too many of these to be effectively controlled, so many will be killed or starved.

Mr. Sea is a former inspector for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Department of Defense. Here Mr. Sea elaborates on the 'RED and BLUE Lists' and what they mean. The RED List is for pick-up and execution before unobtrusive preparations for martial law are initiated. The BLUE List is also for execution, but later, within 6 weeks of martial law declaration. When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they'll take you from your home at night, probably around 4 am and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point. There, you'll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter and fly you to one of 38 cities where you'll board a 747, 737, or 727. You may be taken straight to a red camp and executed. At some point, martial law will be declared. Martial law is when the writ of Habeas Corpus to have a trial by jury is suspended. Instead, of going to the judge, you go straight to jail. At this point, the BLUE listed people will be picked up. At that time, the country will be regionalized into ten regions, which are already designated by FEMA. The black choppers have state-of-the-art radio (RF) frequency wideband jammers, and can jam cell phones and CBs while they're executing black operations missions. This means that your cell phone could be jammed just before and/or during any action against you. In June of 1996, an FBI agent got hold of the Region Three BLUE List (from a CIA agent), and found his own name on it, and those of several others he knew in Virginia. The Regional BLUE List stated that the names on the BLUE List would be picked up 'within six weeks of the actual martial law declaration.' It will work if the 300,000 Soviet troops which are ALREADY HERE can get the guns. The ones doing all of this are operating out of the highest places in the Federal Government. They're cooperating with spirit guides and mediums and using astrology and numerology. The spirit guides are telling them what to do, and the entire thing is being orchestrated at the highest spiritual levels. Every base has been covered. They've thought of everything. They often do things on the 13th of the month. Mr. Clinton does a lot of things on the 13th. On September 13, 1993, the Satanic Oslo Israel-PLO 'peace' accord was signed. Amos 3:7 says that God doesn't do anything without first revealing His secrets to His servants the prophets. God is giving His people warnings. If we'll listen to God, He is warning us of the times that are coming. We need to prepare. There will be an interim of probably just days from the time they launch the RED List, to the declaration of martial law, when they'll start coming after those on the BLUE List. It's the same blueprint being used because it's the same spirit leading the Fourth Reich as led the Third Reich. In Germany, they used trains, here it will be helicopters and 747s. They are now in the process of villainizing Christians, Patriots, Constitutionalists, and outspoken talk-show hosts, HERE IN AMERIKKKA! Who will be doing the actual picking up? Foreign UN cops, probably Muslims or communists. Over 30 foreign military bases under the United Nations flag are already set up in the USA . These bases are already manned with over ONE MILLION troops from Russia, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Turkey, Great Britain, Nicaragua, and Asian countries. They will have no qualms about firing on U.S. citizens. There are Russian tanks, military trucks and chemical warfare vehicles outside Gulfport, Mississippi. Hello? That was hit by Katrina in 2005. Anyone see heavy military equipment and foreign troops near San Francisco? The Illuminati plan way ahead! There's not going to be some future event when the invading troops are going to show up. They're already here. When martial law is implemented, these foreign U.N. troops will be policing our country, carrying out the plans of the New World Order. God is warning His people. There isn't much time before these events begin to take place. God's people need to prepare themselves in every way possible. It's not a time for fear. It's a time for prayer, preparation and sharing our faith with a lost world.


http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1220578507

SpeedAdict
10-14-2008, 08:58 AM
Hi men..

I have read about that tagging before in some of thousand links that shows up daily.. I think the majority of the people could get kill in theprocess, because the original plan is to reduce the population 90%.

So the ones that would be spare ( to say something "the sheeps" ) will be a very low quantity and easy to control, manipulate, etc..

Thanks for your post men.

Peace!!

Anchor
10-14-2008, 09:29 AM
> I do not want to be classed as a scare mongerer.

Please forgive the somewhat personal comment but you have a funny way of showing it :)

--

I guess the bottom line is that evil people will have evil plans. The more these plans leak (probably intentionally) the more they cause fear. It is my sincere hope that these seeds of fear, cannot take root here in "our space".

Fear is the enemy gaining ground. Love and light is the enemy's progress impeded.

In this battle, love and light will prevail, the dark tendrils thrashing about in unplanned chaotic ways are evidence of this. The glimmers of truth sparking to life in more and more people is evidence of this.

In this battle, chaos and some unpleasantness will eventuate - but the degree and measure of it will be dictated by the degree to which people like us react. So remain calm, remain clear, remain free of fear, remain loving, remain compassionate, remain helpful, and remain here in the NOW ready to extend our hands to our needy brothers and sisters as we the go through the housecleaning to end all housecleanings in preparation for the birth into a new age.

Never surrender to fear.

Remember that in the darkest moments and in the darkest times, uncountable (to our minds) numbers of enlightened beings are sending love and light. If you feel fear, ask them for a dose of that light :)

Bring it on!

In that love and in that light, let us be blessed and triumph

A..

CosmicFever
10-14-2008, 09:29 AM
Now that's a downer. So, I go to my mailbox and find a sticker. Let's say mine is red. What then? Are they just going to kick my door in at 4:00 or will they ring the doorbell? Now the other side to the coin is what if these targeted people resist? I have a gigantic protective dog. She starts going nuts and I get out my preferred method of home defense. Won't my neighbors hear this and wonder what the heck is going on next door? I think it's safe to assume that a major neighborhood block battle could break out. I'm going out now, with my flashlight, to see if I have a sticker. If I do I'm going to put up a big sign in my front yard advising everyone else to check their mailboxes. Maybe I'll recommend the whole house and, of course, the street curb. Thanks for heads up.

peace,
cosmic:lightsabre:

AMA-GI
10-14-2008, 09:41 AM
Sorry Anchor, We should have no fear whatsoever!!!! WHATSOEVER. We need to have all the info, and not have fear. Some may find this hard but this is the key as they do feed off of fear. I know what is happening, but i have no fear. You can have a healthy fear, but this is totally different. Info is to be used and not to be feared.

As i said, i mean to only share what has been found, If this is true, all should know.
Thanks for the message Anchor.

> I do not want to be classed as a scare mongerer.

Please forgive the somewhat personal comment but you have a funny way of showing it :)

--

I guess the bottom line is that evil people will have evil plans. The more these plans leak (probably intentionally) the more they cause fear. It is my sincere hope that these seeds of fear, ultimtely cannot take root here in "our space".

Fear is the enemy gaining ground. Love and light is the enemy's progress impeded.

In this battle, love and light will prevail, the dark tendrils thrashing about in unplanned chaotic ways are evidence of this. The glimmers of truth sparking to life in more and more people is evidence of this.

In this battle, chaos and some unpleasantness will eventuate - but the degree and measure of it will be dictated by the degree to which people like us react. So remain calm, remain clear, remain free of fear, remain loving, remain compassionate, remain helpful, and remain here in the NOW ready to extend our hands to our needy brothers and sisters as we the go through the housecleaning to end all housecleanings in preparation for the birth into a new age.

Never surrender to fear.

Remember that in the darkest moments and in the darkest times, uncountable (to our minds) numbers of enlightened beings are sending love and light. If you feel fear, ask them for a dose of that light :)

Bring it on!

In that love and in that light, let us be blessed and triumph

A..

Trishsgate
10-14-2008, 09:46 AM
Ama-gi
I received an e-mail with about the same information about 6 months ago, the only difference was that it also spoke of houses with an infrared X on the roof if they did not live close to their mailbox.

I live within the US and checked my mailbox and home nothing yet. I did have a reoccurring dream several months before receiving the e-mail that for some reason I correlate this with for some odd reason.

In the dream there was this long concrete walkway to a high fenced in wide one level building the back was also fenced in. I was an observer and watched above as the people within the building with many wearing white lab coats were slaughtered by some unseen force the military were called in and were also killed, they sent in more military and they too were killed, when no one else came the killing stopped, but I could see the blood and body parts were everywhere.

Very gory sorry but have had many of my dreams that have come to fruition. One that I carried as a young teen has just started to be realized. Again I apologize for this but feel this is tied into Martial Law for some reason.

khristmaskathy
10-14-2008, 10:12 AM
I had a red dot on my mailbox back in the summer and I had read this before somewhere, so I took the red dot off the mailbox. My husband told me later that the dot was there because we get a daily newspaper! :mfr_lol: I'm not making light of this, but I don't see how they could pull it off, especially since so many people know of their intentions. It's just all too horrible to comprehend really.

Wishing for all of you many blessings and much love, :wub2:

Khristmaskathy

Anchor
10-14-2008, 10:15 AM
Sorry Anchor, We should have no fear whatsoever!!!! WHATSOEVER. We need to have all the info, and not have fear. Some may find this hard but this is the key as they do feed off of fear. I know what is happening, but i have no fear. You can have a healthy fear, but this is totally different. Info is to be used and not to be feared.

As i said, i mean to only share what has been found, If this is true, all should know.

Totally agree, and I am glad you say this.

I was only being cheeky, and for the record, I dont classify you as a fear-monger.

You happen to deal in subjects that can (obviously) cause a fear reaction, but I like also to say my stuff too - you give me a good thrustblock to work off this way, thanks.

A..

AMA-GI
10-14-2008, 10:19 AM
No worries anchor.......I know wht you mean anyway, it was just for the benifit of others.
Speak soon.

Totally agree, and I am glad you say this.

I was only being cheeky, and for the record, I dont classify you as a fear-monger.

You happen to deal in subjects that can (obviously) cause a fear reaction, but I like also to say my stuff too - you give me a good thrustblock to work off this way, thanks.

A..

deb003
10-14-2008, 11:47 AM
I've also read about this before.
I also wonder how they would pull this off. If they start picking up people at 4am and executing them, their families will wonder where they are, their friends, their co-workers. Soon there will be like 1000 missing persons reports all over. Wouldn't the police get involved. The families of those who disappear wouldn't just give up looking. They would ask questions and keep digging. Are they going to kill the people on the red list and their families and their friends.
Even if Martial Law is implemented 2 weeks from the beginning of this mass killing, these things would get out.
It sounds so disgusting if they do this and I also can't comprehend it; however, if this is true, they're going to encounter plenty of resistance and soon enough, you would have a huge revolution and civil war and yes, plenty of blood on all sides so let's just hope it never happens.
We are those good Aliens to come and help us already!! LOL

pineal-pilot-in merkabah
10-14-2008, 11:49 AM
Now that's a downer. So, I go to my mailbox and find a sticker. Let's say mine is red. What then? Are they just going to kick my door in at 4:00 or will they ring the doorbell? Now the other side to the coin is what if these targeted people resist? I have a gigantic protective dog. She starts going nuts and I get out my preferred method of home defense. Won't my neighbors hear this and wonder what the heck is going on next door? I think it's safe to assume that a major neighborhood block battle could break out. I'm going out now, with my flashlight, to see if I have a sticker. If I do I'm going to put up a big sign in my front yard advising everyone else to check their mailboxes. Maybe I'll recommend the whole house and, of course, the street curb. Thanks for heads up.

peace,
cosmic:lightsabre:not sure what you can do against a divison of combat troops that come to your neighbourhood. they will jsut seal off the whole thing. not sure what a dog is gonna do.. peel off your sticker if there is one?? hide in the secret shelter thast you have in your back garden is the best bet. or your non apparent basement.. ways around these things. :smoke::smoke:

hueyii
10-14-2008, 11:54 AM
I dont have a mailbox. My mail is delivered through a slot in my front door. Last I checked no sticker. I live in a densely populated area and have never seen a sticker on any mailboxes.

What about people who have a PO box?

Sounds like a very unlikely tactic. Why wouldnt people just switch the sticker for one with a preferable color or just remove it?

We live in the information age. If they want to label you they will add a field to the big database and do it there. Not with stickers on mailboxes.

CosmicFever
10-14-2008, 11:59 AM
The dog will warn me silly. Then we go down fighting. I'm not going to any camp. Forget that.

peace,
cosmic:raygun:

hueyii
10-14-2008, 12:05 PM
Just wanted to add that I've read all about martial law and troops putting us in concentration camps. This is very hard to reconcile for me. In order for this to be true, the nuimber of troops required for such a project would be massive. Sons would be required to lock up thier mothers and fathers. There would be a massive uprising and ultimately civil war if the govt or secret govt attempted this. Enslaving a billion people (or slaughtering them) presents HUGE logistical challenges. For gods sake we cant even control a small country like Afganistan! (not that we should)

the infrastructure that keeps the rich folks in control would crumble. Very very hard to believe.

Doubtless there are those among you that really believe this. Be careful, if enough people believe something than they can make it happen. Why not get everyone thinking something rooted in love?

ewald
10-14-2008, 03:56 PM
To get a feel of how these could happen read some of the novels, nonfiction of the former soviet union, or other dictatorships.

eg ´The goelad Archipel´ by solzinitsjin, ´Darkness at noon´ by Athur Koestler. All their heroes get picked up at 4 am in the morning, neighbours pointing the direction, or pretending they didnt see anything. in Norht korea dissidents families get picked up at the same time as the dissident. They end up in camp for reeducation until they are dead or the dissident is dead

These literature clearly explains how these things are done, what the reactions are, of yourself, of the neighbours, how the interrogations go, what stages of feelings are to be expected, etc.... cannot happen in america?... it happened many times before on our planet, it happens still everyday in many places: turkmenistan, oezbekistan, norht korea,...

be informed
ewald

Aisuru Chiku
10-14-2008, 04:51 PM
Mr Jordan Maxwell mention about this list (700.000) on his interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6aUQ5v28c:mfr_omg:

371
10-14-2008, 05:04 PM
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Lotus
10-14-2008, 11:53 PM
I found a tiny alien in my mail box and he laughed and said, don't worry, be happy.

wes_whitewolf
10-15-2008, 12:01 AM
I had a red dot on my mailbox back in the summer and I had read this before somewhere, so I took the red dot off the mailbox. My husband told me later that the dot was there because we get a daily newspaper! :mfr_lol: I'm not making light of this, but I don't see how they could pull it off, especially since so many people know of their intentions. It's just all too horrible to comprehend really.

Wishing for all of you many blessings and much love, :wub2:

Khristmaskathy

It's true that the USPD use little colored stckers to tell post-persons things like mail forwarding or stop mail. I was out of country this summer and was having my mail forwarded. When I returned, there was a little blue sticker on outside of my mailbox. When I put in a stop order to have normal mail delivery resumed, the blue sticker disappeared. This is probably the only reason some of you will find such things on your mail and/or paper boxes...codes for mail/paper delivery people is all.

Love & Light

wes_whitewolf
10-15-2008, 12:04 AM
This is why I own a gun....

and this is exactly why PTB won't be knocking on peoples doors...politely asking them to come along peacefully!:lmao:

Their actual method will be much more "effective":lmfao:

Average Joe
10-15-2008, 12:18 AM
Hi friends,

I have found this piece of information tht i feel all should know. I do not want to be classed as a scare mongerer...... those on the red list will be woken at 4am and taken to the camps and probably killed.

:roll1:

When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they'll take you from your home at night, probably around 4 am and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point. There, you'll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter and fly you to one of 38 cities where you'll board a 747, 737, or 727. You may be taken straight to a red camp and executed.

That seems like an awful lot of hassle just to kill somebody. Especially if there are thousands of people spread all over the country. Think they'd waste a Chinook and a 747 on you? Just to pop a cap in your head? Think about it.....this is just (another) elaborate story!

It would be easier just to turn up at your address and kill you on the spot rather than go through all the stages of moving you here there and everywhere.....just to kill you anyway.

I haven't read the rest, only got that far before I realised it was pure scaremongering paranoid BS.

freekatz
10-15-2008, 12:19 AM
Just wanted to add that I've read all about martial law and troops putting us in concentration camps. This is very hard to reconcile for me. In order for this to be true, the nuimber of troops required for such a project would be massive. Sons would be required to lock up thier mothers and fathers. There would be a massive uprising and ultimately civil war if the govt or secret govt attempted this. Enslaving a billion people (or slaughtering them) presents HUGE logistical challenges. For gods sake we cant even control a small country like Afganistan! (not that we should)

the infrastructure that keeps the rich folks in control would crumble. Very very hard to believe.

Doubtless there are those among you that really believe this. Be careful, if enough people believe something than they can make it happen. Why not get everyone thinking something rooted in love?


How could it happen? just look how many times it has happened throughout history (and is still happening in varying degrees around the world...how about Guantanamo?). In this day and age it will be even easier with the help of chemtrails, psychiatric drugging, subliminal mind control not to mention the horrifying artilary that even police forces now possess, there will be zero resistance from the masses who will just be happy that they can still buy a Happy Meal at Mcdonalds. Just check out some of the videos of the recent RNC convention to see how mindless even average "pc plod" police men have become.:raygun:

Humble Janitor
10-15-2008, 12:28 AM
Don't believe it. I don't really fit into any of those categories.

Theresa
10-15-2008, 12:45 AM
Lotus wrote:

"I found a tiny alien in my mail box and he laughed and said, don't worry, be happy."

Sweet! I love when that happens....

I have to say, I now know, in my heart, that this stuff is not going to happen. Something has shifted behind the scenes...tune in and see if you can feel it also?

man_is_the_bastard
10-15-2008, 12:48 AM
Don't believe it. I don't really fit into any of those categories.

i just cannot take the original post of this thread seriously.
that would just not happen.
how can our tiny armed military(compared to the rest of the population) even hope to gain control over the entire population of the country? what if the military and CIA officials refuse to co-operate?
hopefully they will soon realize they are being used as tools to achieve their plans and the 90% extermination of the world and will fight back to whatever force is against them. after all, they are humans.

broken arrow
10-15-2008, 12:53 AM
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clarkkent
10-15-2008, 12:57 AM
they will lose, either way if they try to do this it wont work, this isnt germans nabbing a brainwashed public of "vermin" --even if its using foreign UN troops, do you guys really think a SH*tload of people nabbed at 4am weeks before martial law will actually go over? i dont care how many camps they have, this will fail.

they dont have any power over us unless we give it to them, and at this point theyre like the emperor from return of the jedi...their overconfidence is their weakness. dont live in fear, its how theyve ruled us for centuries, you can stop it anytime.

quest
10-15-2008, 01:17 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2418/1880280324_ca65f5e0e9.jpg

:fisch:

broken arrow
10-15-2008, 01:22 AM
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quest
10-15-2008, 01:48 AM
oh oh, quest, you better set your alarm clock for 3:45 tonight. :lmfao:

i'll be ready

http://content.expressen.se/blog/61/62/35/mode/images/pyjamas3.jpg

THE eXchanger
10-15-2008, 01:58 AM
xxx

THE eXchanger
10-15-2008, 02:00 AM
xxx

TranceAm
10-15-2008, 02:07 AM
i know, it is because,
the other side, knows, we could do more
damage without the restrictions of a physical body,
and, so, they just leave us alone


Beside that we'll be waiting for them...
Their dirt and way of predatory living stays here.

And if it was up to me,
they can reincarnate here over and over,
in the hell they created they can rot forever...

To keep it in the thoughts of this forum:
[B}I love the enemies of life so much that I would grant them eternal life, but not infinity.[/B]

broken arrow
10-15-2008, 02:26 AM
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Karen
10-15-2008, 02:32 AM
i just cannot take the original post of this thread seriously.
that would just not happen.
how can our tiny armed military(compared to the rest of the population) even hope to gain control over the entire population of the country? what if the military and CIA officials refuse to co-operate?
hopefully they will soon realize they are being used as tools to achieve their plans and the 90% extermination of the world and will fight back to whatever force is against them. after all, they are humans.

I'll side with Theresa that something is changed and this simply will not happen. However just to clarify their now defunct evil plan, it was to use the military of other countries against us - UN style. It is said all over the internet that such non-American military troops are already in place in large numbers in the USA.

WineHippie
10-15-2008, 02:34 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2418/1880280324_ca65f5e0e9.jpg

:fisch:



I appreciated the photo first, very clever and lighthearted, just what I needed after reading thru this thread....
then I noticed the lil guy down in the corner whistling and it cracked me up!
:lmao: thanks!

Ricfly52
10-15-2008, 02:46 AM
My wife and I noticed just last week, that here was a note that had been epoxyed onto our mail box door. I ripped it off. It gave our names, with a code bar.

Like I said, I ripped it off. This new week, the same thing is there again. I spent the last two days, asking neighbors if they had the same. Everyone seems to have the same thing. I have contacted the postal service and so far have got the run around.

Monday, I plan to go to the post office with my ripped off emblemn or note, and ask what the fricking hell it is. I mean, I paid for that postal box. I should have control to what is stuck inside it?

broken arrow
10-15-2008, 02:58 AM
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broken arrow
10-15-2008, 03:11 AM
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Koyaanisqatsi
10-15-2008, 03:13 AM
Americans are a strange lot...

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=12786

Gnosis5
10-15-2008, 03:19 AM
If they reduce the population by 90% what are they going to do with all of those ****** off spirits? Believe, me a ****** off spirit is a force to contend with, especially when he can't find a new human body to inhabit.

Also, I think there are forces who want the meat bodies here for their own nefarious reasons.



Hi men..

I have read about that tagging before in some of thousand links that shows up daily.. I think the majority of the people could get kill in theprocess, because the original plan is to reduce the population 90%.

So the ones that would be spare ( to say something "the sheeps" ) will be a very low quantity and easy to control, manipulate, etc..

Thanks for your post men.

Peace!!

broken arrow
10-15-2008, 03:21 AM
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Gnosis5
10-15-2008, 03:24 AM
I agree, the love potion is like throwing water on the wicked witch of the west -- what won't cure them will kill them and it is their choice too.




i found one too...and, asked them to move in :mfr_lol:

seriously...
we need to command, and, demand
in 100% pure intent,
in alignment with our mission, and, our purpose,
that, if anything is to happen to us,
and, we are removed from our physical bodies,
that, our "original spark" and, "our capstone"
are re-united as one force,
and, that we place our current intent,
on full protection,
and, that we place into those layers of protection,
the love potion, which kills those who are dark,
and, that we intend to
PUT the whole universe on notice,
that, if anything happens to us,
we will sing into the wind
and, into the ears of those who hurt us/or killed us,
that way,
they leave us alone
(ever wonder why a lot of truth seekers walk free,
without worry)
i know, it is because,
the other side, knows, we could do more
damage without the restrictions of a physical body,
and, so, they just leave us alone :thumb_yello:

brightest blessings to all

susan
the eXchanger

Gnosis5
10-15-2008, 03:28 AM
ok, stickers on mailboxes. got it. :lmao:

Okay, everyone repeat after me: "David Rockefeller, I love you".

Southsea
10-15-2008, 03:30 AM
I think what is happening is called "meshblocking". I first heard of this from a New Zealander back in the 90s, Barry Smith, a preacher who was well up to speed with where we we're headed with the NWO.
Incidentally, if you google 'meshblocking' you come up with mostly NZ sites, so I'm guessing it was started there and has spread. The idea is to monitor that aspect of your life and behaviour, don't worry they'll already have your online preferences logged, amongst other things.

Hope you're all well and this just my thoughts.

Excalibur
10-15-2008, 03:34 AM
Personally I don't buy it. The rough and ready approach has never worked and never will. That has never been the modus operandi of the PTB anyway. Once they 'detained' a few people and they were permanently disappeared, then people would be hip to the tactic and strike back. I can't believe that the enlisted soldiers carrying out these operations would frog march their own countymen off to some death camp...ain't going to happen. It would soon degenerate into a kind of 'Red Dawn' scenario and probable revolution. Some of the patriotic military would certainly stage a coup d’état of their own. The PTB may have this as a bullet point on their martial law plan, but impossible to implement. That would be the tactic of desperate men trying to cling to power and if implemented, would seal their fate in my mind. I don't care what they have, the best armed military force in the world is not going to win a guerilla war. They will be slowly bled down and whittled away by attrition. See examples Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Northern Boy
10-15-2008, 03:46 AM
I heard a recent interview with Adam Kokeesh and he is a former Iraq war vet where he has been talking to various special forces buddies of his and they have told him that they are very aware of whats going on in America and when they are given the order READY they will be ready.. when the order for AIM is given they will Aim .... and when the order to FIRE is given .... they will do 180 degree turn and then fire .. at those giving that order

Truthsayer
10-15-2008, 03:48 AM
Are you a Dark Agent paid to spread news of terror?

broken arrow
10-15-2008, 03:50 AM
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Christo888
10-15-2008, 04:15 AM
The best scenario I heard, you know how it works, sounded pretty plausible. At somepoint communications may not be in working order everywhere so city's would not know what other city's are going through.

Obviously, many would be hungry or sick and need attention so they would welcome assistance and of course you would have to register and be identified for tracking rations or vaccines or whatever. And of course you would have to identify relatives and friends and neighbors for their safety... would Chinese and Russian forces actually appear on US soil for assistance, who knows.

China does have 200 million troops and there fresh, Russia certainly is the strongest of all maybe they all want a piece of America in order to pay back the debt? An Alien invasion by foreign troops it hasn't happened yet.

Basically every system in America has already been relabeled through symbols, colors and codes so it is easy to find your way around through following the symbols.

Take a look at how many different colored Star symbols are readily in plain sight, plus the use of stripes, serpentines, arch's, underlines, etc. The whole country's infrastructure has been "Logoed" done over without anyone noticing, typically using some form of Red, White, and Blue, we think it is patriotic. And whoever would have thought the pepsi logo would mark the entrance to concentration camps as seen in the many videos and pics, as just one example. Even observe the semi's on the road they have all been categorized by their name and logo. National, federal, american, americus, patriot, sentry, united, and R,W,B, colors.

So are they prepared, it seems that way, but are the stories more effective for intimidation by allowing this info. out?

There are always cracks in the plans for which "Allowance" can find its way through.

TranceAm
10-15-2008, 09:34 AM
INFO, nothing more nothing less.
My personal Take, It is fear mongering by the other side, but it goes along with the thread. So here it is.

US MARINE DRILL SERGEANT BOASTS OF WHAT THEY WILL DO TO CIVILIANS UNDER MARTIAL

Posted By: Lionheart
Date: Saturday, 11 October 2008, 11:14 p.m.


Please consider the following information. It is intense, frightening, and horrific.

SPECIAL REPORT from BOZEMAN, MONTANA

US MARINE DRILL SERGEANT BOASTS OF WHAT THEY WILL DO TO CIVILIANS UNDER MARTIAL LAW IN THE USA/MONTANA

I am still kinda reeling from what a US Marine admitted to me in a long conversation...a crack US Marine drill sergeant with 12 years of professional training and being a trainer in the Marines. He specialized in hardening them to win (ie-fire on women and children wherever appropriate, "show no mercy" etc.)

He CONFIRMED lots of things to me that I already knew, and revealed lots of new things to me.

MARINE CONFIRMS PRISONER BOXCARS PREPOSITIONED EVERYWHERE FOR MARTIAL LAW-

HE ADMITTED (actually, BOASTED would be more appropriate) that there were INDEED PRISONER BOXCARS PREPOSITIONED EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT MONTANA where I interviewed him (and nationwide)...that the military has properly assessed the civilian resistance/militia threat under martial law, and hence had everything in place for a military takeover USING US MARINES HEAVILY.

Quote:
"WHY do you THINK that they have the Marines in place in Billings, Montana, " he bragged. He explained that MARINES would be used most heavily in Montana (and NATIONWIDE) under martial law...and he was evidently quite proud of their role. He admitted they had been hardened to kill...and that killing women and children would be a part of their agenda wherever deemed necessary.

WHY? He said that under a state of war or martial law, it is a known fact that women can be used and even children to convey information to "the enemy." (OR to combat US forces.)

He shared then how many men in his platoon stationed overseas had been killed or hurt because a Marine refused his orders, to fire on an eight year old child. The child was suspected to be a courier for the Mujahideen, transporting information about Marine logistics and whereabouts, to the Moslems they were fighting. And as a result of enemy information getting thru, many men in his platoon were injured or killed by the resultant Muslim attack.

Quote:
"The child may not have even known what he was transporting," the Marine told me, "But the damage to our men occurred regardless...all because one man refused his orders and failed to take out this threat..."

We discussed the BOXCARS AND SHACKLES and MILITARY DETENTION CAMPS under MARTIAL LAW issue. A knowing smile broke out on his face as I described to him my research on future MARTIAL LAW and the role of PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES.

When I mentioned how my research on this subject brought me to the HIGHLINE (the railroad tracks that run parallel to HIGHWAY 2 in northern Montana) and northern Montana, he admitted...

Quote:
"The boxcars are NOT just up there...we have them spread out ALL OVER MONTANA...Billings...Bozeman..." He went on to name city after city in Montana.

TERMINATION IN THE PRISONER BOXCARS, MARINE STYLE- "LIKE SHEEP LED TO SLAUGHTER"

We discussed what would happen ONCE people were arrested under martial law and brought into these boxcars. MARINE style.

Quote:
He said, "In many cases they won't even waste a bullet on them. MANY WILL NEVER REACH THE CAMPS ALIVE. They have this thing we called a 'staple gun'..." I asked him to elaborate. "This 'gun' shoots out a long metal rod that hits another piece of metal...they just hold that to someone's head like a gun and...."

He was in fact describing a STUN GUN, the same kind used to stun cattle and sheep in slaughterhouses prior to processing.

I understood. With the same effect that a BULLET THRU THE HEAD, favored by military for dispatching people under such circumstances, would have. Only THIS way, the American people will become LIKE SHEEP LED TO SLAUGHTER...literally.

And like dumb sheep led to slaughter, civilians arrested under martial law are not even considered worth the cost of a bullet...

Quote:
RED-FLAG/BLACK FLAG- MARINE STANDARDS FOR "WHO SHALL LIVE, WHO SHALL DIE"

We discussed various LISTS or status of people, once arrested, under MARTIAL LAW would have. You know, like FEMA RED-BLUE lists, etc.

He responded by admitting that FEMA WAS ONLY A FRONT FOR SUCH OPERATIONS, and that IN FACT IT WOULD BE THE US MILITARY (with foreign troop assistance, UN/NATO/Pfp etc.,) OPERATING THE BOXCARS AND DEATHCAMPS.

He said that the Marines had their RED FLAGGED people and BLACK FLAGGED people. When people come up RED FLAG on their computerized list, it is a person that will be arrested and taken to military camps, but may be "salvageable" (or can be rehabilitated, re-educated, etc.)

But when people come up BLACK FLAGGED, they will be arrested and PUT TO DEATH.
NO questions asked.

Quote:
"When taking captives under MARTIAL LAW, we might even use a black flagged person who is going to die anyhow, and MAKE THEM AN EXAMPLE TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WE ARREST TO NOT MESS WITH US AND COOPERATE...by executing that person in front of the others...a form of CONTROL THRU FEAR."

WHY THE US MILITARY IS IN IRAQ - A Marine Explains

I discussed my loathing for the reports we were now receiving from IRAQ, about even young girls and teens being arrested indiscriminately, tortured and sodomized, raped, etc.

Quote:
He replied, "You have to understand the logistics of WAR and what is happening there. Since the US soldiers are surrounded with people (Iraqis) and the enemy in many cases is THE UNKNOWN, that have to have ways to flush them out.

By randomly selecting civilians to interrogate through torture and other means, and then releasing them, they are hoping that when that person who has been roughed up returns to their home or friends, it will provoke them (enemy combatants) into such anger and retaliation that they are FLUSHED OUT INTO THE OPEN so we can deal with them and know who the enemy really is."

He also admitted it creates FEAR in the people towards the occupying army, so that they will hesitate to rebel.

In light of coming MARTIAL LAW, which he admitted WOULD COME DOWN IN AMERICA, I discussed my theory that THE US MILITARY THAT IS BEING HARDENED THROUGH SUCH PRACTICES IN IRAQ TODAY, will be the ones brought home to PERFORM THE SAME TASKS AGAINST THE US CIVILIANS IN THE FUTURE UNDER MARTIAL LAW.

MARINE MENTALITY-FIRING UPON WOMEN AND CHILDREN AT COMMAND-

He did not deny this. And when I mentioned my concern over whether or not they could get our own US troops to fire upon America citizens, even women and children, he explained to me the MARINE MENTALITY.

Quote:
"These Marines have been hardened to KILL UPON COMMAND. They have been taught to NOT QUESTION THE ORDERS OF THEIR SUPERIORS OR COMMANDING OFFICER. THEY WILL KILL WHOEVER AND WHENEVER THEY ARE COMMANDED TO. " He let me know that concepts of MERCY or COMPASSION are diametrically opposed to WAR and military mentality.

He had trained men himself in the Marines, and admitted he was one of those people hardening OTHER Marines to kill without regret or conscience...even under MARTIAL LAW IN AMERICA.

MILITARY STRATEGY UNDER MARTIAL LAW USA-

We then discussed WEAPONS OF WAR. I fully admitted to him my position in the upcoming MARTIAL LAW holocaust. It was SAFE: we were on neutral ground and martial law has not been declared here YET.

I then discussed my honest assessment, however, of Patriot/civilian resistance. Coming from the kind of military background family I do, I had a much more realistic assessment of modern military might versus civilian resistance. I said,

Quote:
"I always give a salvation message at the end of each radio broadcast I give on the subject of MARTIAL LAW SHOWDOWN...I let the Patriot militias out there know that while I admire their intentions as they stand up for freedom and against the NWO, they frankly have no realistic concept of how highly armed and trained and prepared the military forces of the NWO really are...and that a lot of these good folks are going to factually die with what is coming down when they offer resistance... SO I tell them, 'at LEAST ensure yourselves the ULTIMATE VICTORY of knowing you have ETERNAL LIFE thru Jesus Christ in case you die....and many of you WILL END UP IN HELL should they take you out WITHOUT CHRIST...so GET RIGHT WITH GOD NOW."

He smiled and said, "That's why we Marines have a saying that we will take 'em out and LET GOD SORT 'EM!"

He went on to describe the newer weapons the US military had developed to be used against civilian resistance. Grenades that have caustic substances that when exploded, will eat away any CHEM/BIO BODY SUIT that a resister may be wearing for protection under MARTIAL LAW. Projectiles with uranium shells that when fired will pass through buildings with such power and velocity that they will suck human bodies right out with them through the hole they create in buildings as they emerge (of course destroying the bodies in the process). And more.

THE COMING REALITY OF MICROWAVING DEATH CAMPS UNDER MARTIAL LAW-

He also confirmed the reality of microwave related weapons as well.

I mentioned that in my research on MILITARY DETENTION CAMPS and termination facilities, I knew about GASSING/CREMATORY facilities, and MICROWAVING deathcamps as well.

Quote:
WIth the smile of a hardened soldier, he replied, "The MICROWAVING facilities have been around since the 1950's. THEY ARE ALREADY BEING USED IN PLACES LIKE KOSOVO and other places...they make our clean-up much more easy after executions. The bodies don't EXPLODE...they IMPLODE or collapse from the inside...."

I commented on my 6 months of research in Germany at the US military installation called THE MARSHALL CENTER and other locations, to uncover more about the role of UN/NATO foreign troops to be used under martial law in America someday.

Former YUGOSLAVIA is being used as a test case for an entire country brought under UN/NATO control. It has been divided up into FOUR regions, with UN foreign troops assigned to patrol each section. This is much like AMERICA UNDER MARTIAL LAW will be divided up into TEN regions with UN/NATO/PfP troops patrolling each region.

And even now, foreign and America troops are being trained through experience in places like KOSOVO for what they will do under MARTIAL LAW in America someday:roadblocks and searches and weapons seizures, gun confiscation, "search/seizure/arrest" at homes, marching red-flagged/black-flagged, FEMA red/blue listed people off to boxcars and shackles or buses (OR federal prisoner transport planes) to be held or terminated accordingly, etc.

The fact that THEY ARE EVEN NOW PRACTICING TERMINATING "ENEMIES" UNDER UN/NATO/NWO OCCUPATION in "microwaving deathcamp" facilities leaves a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.

We have heard of microwave termination facilities here in the US to be used under MARTIAL LAW. I have reported on our suspicions. And now this Marine has provided up front confirmation. He admitted that not only are there gassing/crematory facilities, but the MICROWAVE termination facilities are a present reality as well.

Quote:
Marine Mentality-"LOTS OF AMERICAN ARE DUMB SHEEP!"

I expressed to him my deep concerns over innocent people being terminated in such camps. He explained the military mentality of thinking.

"MOST AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DUMB SHEEP" and sheep can be dangerous IF they cannot be controlled or pose a threat to the security of the US military forces under martial law or endanger their operations. In such cases THEY MUST BE TAKEN OUT...as in NEW ORLEANS. He admitted that his Marine buddies had been shooting and killing a lot of people down there...people who will not surrender their weapons when asked, etc.

Quote:
"We have the philosophy in the military that you SACRIFICE ONE OR A FEW FOR THE GOOD OF THE MANY..."

In others words, IF a person, OR a group (Patriot leader, militia leader and their group, etc., or various people under martial law) poses a threat to the good of the MANY (in the US military) then they will sacrifice those people.

When I shared with him how my previous research uncovered the hidden reality of NWO RESISTANCE within the ranks of the US military, he looked at me with narrowed eye intensity and responded, "NOT THESE MARINES...NOT MY MEN! These men have been prepared and trained and equipped...THEY ARE PREPARED FOR MARTIAL LAW and they have been trained to WIN."

PARTING INTO THE NIGHT-CONCLUSION

We finally parted and went our separate ways into the night.

But before he left, I told him, "Well , nice talking to you...and whether you know it or not, you just did a HELLUVA PSY-OPS JOB on me, sir..." He just smiled. In fact it took me all night in prayer just to assess what he had shared with me and finally become calm and drift off to sleep.

WARRIOR CLASS CHRISTIANS AND PATRIOTS

I simply let him know that there are those among " NWO resistance" that are not afraid to die.

-Pam Schuffert reporting LIVE from the Pacific Northwest

(The former Major Ralph Peters of PENTAGON INTELLIGENCE, now apparently retired, had written a report for the US Army's PARAMETERS magazine, called "WARRIOR CLASS," in which he discussed NWO RESISTANCE and how there was a group of people among NWO resisters who could NOT be swayed or deterred by conventional military means from their stand against the NEW WORLD ORDER or their religious faith BEHIND their determination to not accept it nor cooperate. He referred to them as WARRIOR CLASS. He then stated in his report in PARAMETERS that SUCH RESISTANCE WILL HAVE TO BE COUNTERED BY THE US MILITARY WITH "IRRESISTIBLE

Lionheart
http://www.rayelan.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=7880


Edit:
"THEY ARE PREPARED FOR MARTIAL LAW and they have been trained to WIN."

But when they have WON such a fight, what have they fought for?
Their "honor"? Their blind obediance to freaks? To protect the Constitution and the Republic?

broken arrow
10-16-2008, 01:13 AM
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Waterman
10-16-2008, 01:27 AM
Forgive me if this has already been said, because I haven't read the whole thread but here is plan that is actually being implemented. There's a group of folks that are making available red stickers. You are to put those stickers on the mail boxes of those in your area that are cooperating with those causing the problem.

We can turn this scenario against them. I thought they had a good idea! LOLOL

broken arrow
10-16-2008, 01:49 AM
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Rocky_Shorz
10-16-2008, 02:02 AM
Well let me give you a secret, the words you are about to read have brought tears to the eyes of some of the toughest combat veterans in the world...

Print this out and hand it to the ones that knock on your door...

San Diego's Sword in the Stone.

* A veteran soldier walks up before the crowd, draws his sword and takes the microphone. *

"many people want the cross to come down because it is a religious symbol"


* at this point he raises his sword above his head for all to see. *

"The sword has always been a symbol of a warrior, an Icon of valor and strength. The sign of a man who is willing to die for what he believes. A great Warrior understands the might of the sword isn't in the steel of the blade, it comes from the handle and the heart of the man behind it."

"When a hero falls, his sword is planted in the dirt over his head."

* at this point, he drives the sword deep into the ground, and bows his head. giving the crowd a chance to see the sword glistening in the sunlight. That's when they realized, they are looking at a cross *

"The strength is still in the handle. To Christians, the three points of the
cross, remind us of the Trinity, The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but at the heart of it's meaning, stands for a hero that died for what he believed."

"Mt Soledad's Cross is San Diego's reminder of all of our heroes, both men and
women, that have died for our Freedom."


"In their memory let it stand, let it be our Sword in the Stone"


"Let it stand for all who died, bringing peace to the World"




A friend of mine is a veteran, and he went up to Mount Soledad every weekend to spend time with some of his fallen friends, he said the power around the cross was unexplainable.

He was crushed that a few people were fighting to have it taken down.

He asked if I could help him come up with the words to save it.

I wrote this and put it on paper with a faded image of a sword in the stone in the background.

He read it, blinked back the tears, then went out and made 10,000 copies and handed them out to everyone he spoke to...

The cross was saved, by the heart and determination of one man...

mwood82
10-16-2008, 02:10 AM
yo all, Living in socal any have nothing on my mailbox, they day i see an agent trespassing on my property is the day i wield my 9. **** the NWO. peace.

JohnWdoe
10-16-2008, 02:16 AM
I wouldn't worry to much about police officers kicking in your door to arrest you send you to a death camp.

That is the WORST fear mongering to come across on this journey, this and NUKES!!

I highly doubt in reality (not words) this would ever transpire... it reminds me of a Crowley fan indulging in what could be.

Don't worry about the camps its all horse puckey.

Shellie
10-16-2008, 02:22 AM
I am curious why everyone thinks that nabbing people at 4am a few weeks before martial law won't work.

It worked in Germany.

It worked in Russia.

It worked in the Philippines. 1972

It worked in Greece. 1967-74

It worked in Chile.

It worked in Argentina.

It worked in Venezuela.

It worked in Uruguay.

It worked in Colombia.


Do you think Americans are any more ready/awake/prepared than the people above?


http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_160.shtml

mntruthseeker
10-16-2008, 02:58 AM
to get an answer as to whether or not this would happen, one just has to go do their research.

I.V.A.W. is a good place to start. do you think these men and women are lying?
Also the mind control is so real and forcefull and it is real scary. This has been used and its very effective

The people that have come forward with their stories can not be taken lightly.

Secondly there are two stories I have viewed videos on that would be enough to change anyones mind.
One is the story of Boystown, father flanagan and second is St Andrews in Canada. video They seem to have removed the boystown one.

No one will ever tell me again that our gov/church is good

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6637396204037343133

Rocky_Shorz
10-16-2008, 03:12 AM
Do you think Americans are any more ready/awake/prepared than the people above?

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_160.shtml

Yep...:winksmiley02:

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, who has a history of heart problems, was treated with an electric shock on Wednesday to resolve an abnormal heartbeat

Full Story (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE49E62620081015)

kem
10-16-2008, 12:52 PM
I've never heard so terrifying news... :tears: I really hope this is a whole bunch of nuts... And in the case this will come true, I hope that all of us will stand up together to kick their military asses out.

Take care and stay aware of what's going on.
Some prayers from France:thumb_yello:

deb003
10-16-2008, 01:26 PM
Michael Tsarion was on the Alex Jones show the other day.

There are 5 segments of this on You Tube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB-OEo4rOpU

There are another 5 segments of the 1st hour but I wasn't able to access them from work.

I think it was very good in order to get an understanding of their plans in a broad sense (DNA manipulation, depopulation, slavery)

I think with these people, anything is possible so the more aware we become of their plans, the stronger we can become, I believe.

It's true, they have been doing this for thousands of years to different civilizations, the Incas, the Native Indians, poor countries, Africa, everywhere.
I think we might just be the last on their list....just some thoughts...

freekatz
10-16-2008, 10:16 PM
I am curious why everyone thinks that nabbing people at 4am a few weeks before martial law won't work.

It worked in Germany.

It worked in Russia.

It worked in the Philippines. 1972

It worked in Greece. 1967-74

It worked in Chile.

It worked in Argentina.

It worked in Venezuela.

It worked in Uruguay.

It worked in Colombia.


Do you think Americans are any more ready/awake/prepared than the people above?


http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_160.shtml

"It will never happen to us" ....famous last words that are repeated over and again.

A friend of mine was a human shield in Iraq before the lovely "shock & awe" started, she said that as she sat praying with a group of Iraqis many were saying that it would never happen "the United States will never do this to us", very soon after the bombing started.

hueyii
10-16-2008, 10:33 PM
How could it happen? just look how many times it has happened throughout history (and is still happening in varying degrees around the world...how about Guantanamo?). In this day and age it will be even easier with the help of chemtrails, psychiatric drugging, subliminal mind control not to mention the horrifying artilary that even police forces now possess, there will be zero resistance from the masses who will just be happy that they can still buy a Happy Meal at Mcdonalds. Just check out some of the videos of the recent RNC convention to see how mindless even average "pc plod" police men have become.:raygun:

Yep, the chemtrail thing makes alot of sense too. Drop chemicals in the air to make us sick or submissive.... like those chemicals will only affect us and not them. I guess "they" take special drugs that make them immune to chemicals dumped into the air.

Oh, I forgot about Guantanamo. Yep, they can round us all up and take us there.... after they build a facility 10,000 times bigger.

Trust me, if there is a plot to imprison or kill a vast majority of people, you will see it coming a mile away.

SOUTHERNCALIBELIEVER
10-16-2008, 10:37 PM
The thought of some secret group going around at night putting a little colored sticker on your mail box is pretty funny.

I've seen videos on youtube about the secret codes/messages on the back of street signs telling the military where the key points are in the area. I've actually come across some street signs with some glow in the dark stickers on the back. (if anyone's in southern cali. you can go up to mt. Baldy and see the back of the street sign at the end of the street at the top)

Suriel
10-16-2008, 10:44 PM
Speaking of stickers, there is much talk about chemtrails. Maybe we should add a Mr. Yuck sticker to our mailbox too.

http://phil.yanov.com/images/MrYukSticker.jpg

:biggrin2:

hueyii
10-16-2008, 10:52 PM
"It will never happen to us" ....famous last words that are repeated over and again.

A friend of mine was a human shield in Iraq before the lovely "shock & awe" started, she said that as she sat praying with a group of Iraqis many were saying that it would never happen "the United States will never do this to us", very soon after the bombing started.

I was in the military. every unit I was in has been deployed to Iraq/Afganistan including infantry battalions in South Korea. (Whos watching the DMZ??) Our military is stretched very thin. In order to round up the population of a MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREA (capitalized for emphasis) you would need 10 military divisions.. Where are these troops going to come from?

How would you transport all these people? In my neighbordood there are about 300 people in a 100 yd radius. Thats alot of people. It'd be easier to just kill us all but then you would have disease, contaminated water etc.

Picture yourself as a soldier on a mission to round up people. just think about it. People have guns, vehicles, radios, computers... BRAINS. Previous roundups of people have never even approached the scale you speak of. Each was preceded by plenty of warning. People were less informed, unarmed for the most part.

Trust me, you would see it coming. I see nothing coming like this. Alot of theory and bogus misleading info but nothing that is credible.

Oh, I almost forgot. Previous governments that did this all failed miderably in the end.

Be vigilant, politically active, participate in your community and love your neighbor. You'll be ok, now get back to living and experiencing life.

Peace

Waterman
10-16-2008, 11:06 PM
I have to agree with you.

The technique that they will use will result in only needing to deal with the "uncooperative" folks. Which would be people that won't take those steps into their world economic plan.

This is why the country is on the economic chopping block. Destroy a nations economy and the nation is destoyed. Very much an Art of War thing here going on.

Their next step?..... "bless" everyone with a new fiscal and economic system. Their thinking is "if we build it they will come", and it will work for the most part because they have destroyed the system everyone was using. Which actually is fine with me, but I know folks don't understand local and regional scrip and will think the sky is going to fall in if they don't mount that new saddle they made/are making for everyone.

The next step is right around the corner. And if we don't join the crowd they could care less. Because if we can't buy or sell things, especially food, that's just fine with them too.

TranceAm
10-17-2008, 12:59 AM
Because if we can't buy or sell things, especially food, that's just fine with them too.

Them might be in for a big surprise, if they underestimate the defiance of the American People...

http://www.thatsdongguan.com/images/The%20Last%20Great%20Act%20of%20Defiance%20JPG.JPG

Do remember, that the 'battle' for this Earth and its future is fought in America.
They have to break the backbone of Freedom... Even if that in reality is an illusion clung onto, by the fingernails by avoiding all the freedom restricting laws..

When white, black, red, and yellow people will find out that the term "useless eater" is not a joke, but used to label them for extermination either active or passive (As in your example above.), it just might unite them humans very fast.
And If that happens, then I hope that 'them' are prepared to live in them mausoleum bunkers far beneath the ground for a long long looooooong time, long enough for us to find the entrance doors and concrete them solid shut, in order for them to turn into the things they really are: Morlocks, eating themselves, each other and their <reincarnating!> offspring, while we above ground evolve into the Eloi...

Magii
10-17-2008, 01:08 AM
--- Please note --

This is another classic DISINFO / Misinformation .. blah blah stuff

coming out of BS Websites --

RED DOTS on MAIL boxes is part of a campain to stop JUNK MAIL
http://www.reddotcampaign.ca/

If you want to believe "Fourwinds" site .. good luck with that ...


I'm amazed at how gullible people are to believe such things .. do you honestly think if xyz wanna kill abc people .. they are gonna put dots on mailboxes? ARE U KIDDIN ME!?


:yikes:

munkey
10-17-2008, 01:21 AM
Why on earth would the powers that be give any one any kind of warning by placing stickers on letter boxes.
you do know that they can see your house with google earth and just need to punch in co ordinates to mark people off on their computers. :winksmiley02:

Things like this would be done in secret, WWII was a different story because technology was no where near as advanced as it is now.

If they want to get rid of a lot of people in a hurry, they will just throw up Quarantine tape around properties and do it in the dark, no kicking in doors, or just have people go missing for no reason on their way to work.

Stickers on letterboxes are usually to help the mail or paper delivery person :winksmiley02:

Swanny
10-17-2008, 10:14 AM
If you want to really confuse them get thousands of dots made up and stick them everywhere :naughty:

I see no reason for the military to make camps and kill people, what would be the point in that? If they want to cull us they will just use the bird flu.
They don't give a monkeys if they kill the wrong or right people, the people they would want will be somewhere safe already, it's numbers they would work on.

Sorry but I don't believe these camps will happen.

munkey
10-17-2008, 01:14 PM
If you want to really confuse them get thousands of dots made up and stick them everywhere :naughty:

I see no reason for the military to make camps and kill people, what would be the point in that? If they want to cull us they will just use the bird flu.
They don't give a monkeys if they kill the wrong or right people, the people they would want will be somewhere safe already, it's numbers they would work on.

Sorry but I don't believe these camps will happen.

you may be right,
How does this sound for a possibility.
A pandemic hits the US, due to new laws passed in congress it is now illegal to refuse a bird flu vaccine, those who do try and refuse are taken away to a fema camp for the protection of the rest of society, because of course they will claim you are infected with the flu.
Martial law will be put in place so as to try and stop the spread of the disease.
when people start asking questions on where loved ones are they will be informed that the loved one died from the disease even after the best medical treatment was administered at the camp.

now maybe those on the red list will get no treatment and die suddenly
those on the blue may be treated a little to see how resolve they have and wether they will talk when its all over
the yellow list people fold like a house of cards and get released soon after they sign a non disclosure contract.

It may sound harsh and a little brutal, but unlike some others who think its time to sit around a camp fire singing Kumbaya and everything is getting better.
Please do not let your guard down, this is still all part of the big picture, this is no where near close to ending, the third shaking of the earth has not even reached the end of the first act yet.

fawziya
10-17-2008, 09:36 PM
Are the RED, BLUE & YELLOW tags related to the PAPERCLIP & PENCIL ICONS associated with ONLY SOME of the "replies" posted by SOME Avalon members?

msv
10-17-2008, 10:49 PM
A couple of months ago a big shiny black car with blackened windows came slowly down our street and stopped across the street diagonal from my house for about 30 seconds while I was putting stuff iin the car, then slowly pulled away and drove off. Definitely not a neighbor. I live in a quiet middleclass neighborhood, 20 minute drive from our local Fema complex.

Waterman
10-18-2008, 12:38 AM
Ok here is some good info. Make sure you read the whole post.

As with any country that is implementing a new political regime, and in this case in america it would be fascism, those in power always will start a psychological operations. And in now in america it is evident there is an event coming because they have launched psysh ops. Psychological operations are meant to bend the minds of the sheople to their way of thinking, and are always done before the next major phase of the agenda is implemented.

In america many feel the reason we are still free, and it may actually be true, is because of gun ownership. This brings up a very important point, and that is, unless one is a criminal there really isn't a need to worry about americans having them. When the government fears the people, the people are free, and unless the government is breaking the law they have nothing to fear from the people.

So, during times of the illegal implementation of a "new regime" will be when they are launching a psychological operation. Remember, they do this to counter a concern (a fear) about their illegal activity.

Have I confused anyone? Let me know if I loose anyone.

When the body politic is no longer fearing the election process it is because the elections no longer give the people an honest forum for change. When those in power no longer worry about the ballot box, then the process is broken and no longer working. Which is the case in the last two presidential elections. It is called Diebold machines. And so far all systems in place to fix this problem (inside the government) have failed to remedy the problem.

When the ballot box is broken there is only one remedy left, and the government knows the next step and fear begins to set in and will cause them begin the next phase of their operation which is forced compliance (martial law).

Just because many in this forum say it can't be done does not mean they won't try. You know the government does not have a corner on the "lots of brains" department.

BUT.... before they launch that operation they will do psych ops. Below is the beginning of their psych op to counter peoples response to their next phase..... martial law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1clx8IzK6k

If it stays up and you get to it in time, download it and save it.

In the meantime make sure to watch this as what it is meant to be ..... a "psych op."

The next post (in this thread) will be some very interesting insider information exposing the governments attempt to do the same thing in this country once before.... and a failed operation to collect information for the psychological operations (media lies) to be used before a similar attempt.

enjoy

Stabris8
10-18-2008, 03:35 AM
hear, hear, Waterman! :thumb_yello:

& thanks for the link...very interesting...

Avocado
10-18-2008, 03:51 AM
Sorry I do not believe most of that posting. In particular the part about foreing troops, immediate execution, etc It just does not make any sense to me. Probably FEMA has some plans and probably they have already lists of people to deal with but the statements in the posting are extreme and in a way ridiculous.

hueyii
10-22-2008, 12:27 PM
Sorry I do not believe most of that posting. In particular the part about foreing troops, immediate execution, etc It just does not make any sense to me. Probably FEMA has some plans and probably they have already lists of people to deal with but the statements in the posting are extreme and in a way ridiculous.

"Extreme" is the key word. Govt may exert more control but rounding up millions of pi$$ed off gun toting americans would be very difficult

QueenOfLeon
10-22-2008, 04:07 PM
Lotus wrote:

"I found a tiny alien in my mail box and he laughed and said, don't worry, be happy."

Sweet! I love when that happens....

I have to say, I now know, in my heart, that this stuff is not going to happen. Something has shifted behind the scenes...tune in and see if you can feel it also?

I agree. When I first found this out a few months ago I literally sh!te myself almost, and I do think they could pull it off but like you say something has shifted. Its not gonna happen!!

DONT THINK ABOUT IT!!
And Lotus that made me laugh!!!!:thumb_yello:

QueenOfLeon
10-22-2008, 04:33 PM
I would also like to add that the actual soldiers and marines that fullfill the NWO are just as dispensable as the rest of us. When you consider that the purpose of wiping out 90% is for the elite to create an elite race, once their work is done, they are gonners too, so thEy are only contributing towards their own demise.

I would imagine that even people that think they are "in" are not, and as the lie is different at every level, once they have done the dirty work of the puppeteers, they are nothing but reptile food. (if you believe James Casbolt!)

So maybe they should step back and think what the real agenda is, and just how important are they, really??

dayzero
10-22-2008, 05:07 PM
I like your style Theresa. And i agree.

Myra
10-22-2008, 06:52 PM
Personally I don't buy it. The rough and ready approach has never worked and never will. That has never been the modus operandi of the PTB anyway. Once they 'detained' a few people and they were permanently disappeared, then people would be hip to the tactic and strike back. I can't believe that the enlisted soldiers carrying out these operations would frog march their own countymen off to some death camp...ain't going to happen. It would soon degenerate into a kind of 'Red Dawn' scenario and probable revolution. Some of the patriotic military would certainly stage a coup d’état of their own. The PTB may have this as a bullet point on their martial law plan, but impossible to implement. That would be the tactic of desperate men trying to cling to power and if implemented, would seal their fate in my mind. I don't care what they have, the best armed military force in the world is not going to win a guerilla war. They will be slowly bled down and whittled away by attrition. See examples Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.

They may try but it not would work. And trying it would be stupid on their part because it would be the complete demise of the NWO. Imagine how many people live in Southern California, could you just see them busting down everyone's door to take them off to death camps? LOL. They would deserve what they get.:raygun: :gun2: :bash: :gun_bandana: :lmao:

By the time others got wind of what they started the all out bloodbath would start. The only way it would work is if they took everyone by surprise by hitting everyone's residence all at once and they don't have enough manpower to do so, let alone to do the rest of the Country.

I think that implementing Martial Law in this fashion is nothing more than a NWO Wet Dream. :tongue2:

I heard a recent interview with Adam Kokeesh and he is a former Iraq war vet where he has been talking to various special forces buddies of his and they have told him that they are very aware of whats going on in America and when they are given the order READY they will be ready.. when the order for AIM is given they will Aim .... and when the order to FIRE is given .... they will do 180 degree turn and then fire .. at those giving that order

I believe it. And some people say they also have trained troops from other Countries coming in to help LOL. :lol3: Do you know how many foreign people cannot stand the U.S.?
Are the PTB that stupid to think that they hate the U.S. Citizens as opposed to hating them instead?

I bet that those foriegn troops when given the orders would also turn around and take out the NWO instead. Maybe they would take them to their own facilities. :lmao:

Their ideas are becoming outdated and antiquated as each day passes. :thumbdown:

Swanny
10-22-2008, 07:43 PM
Theres not enough room to make these camps in the UK :original:

alice goes nuts....
10-22-2008, 08:07 PM
in the end all this is about what u decide to belive in. i know my own free will, so it really dont matter. and if i change my mind, it is not me anymore so why care at all about all this.

Bobcat
10-22-2008, 08:12 PM
Theres not enough room to make these camps in the UK :original:

True but, the mod have masses of land in the uk that we cant even get close to without being arrested. If you check multimap you will noitce massive areas that are blocked from view.

Also, we in the uk can be taken and deported to the USA for no reason under the terrorism act !!
Gordon Brown just attempted to increase the terrorist act so they can hold people for alot longer that 25 days. Luckely is was challenged and stopped.

Swanny
10-22-2008, 08:21 PM
True but, the mod have masses of land in the uk that we cant even get close to without being arrested. If you check multimap you will noitce massive areas that are blocked from view.

Also, we in the uk can be taken and deported to the USA for no reason under the terrorism act !!
Gordon Brown just attempted to increase the terrorist act so they can hold people for alot longer that 25 days. Luckely is was challenged and stopped.

Yea I live right next to Sailsbury plain :sad:

deb003
10-22-2008, 08:30 PM
they have been sending animals to death camps aka "farms" for years and we've contributed to this slaughter...what's to be different this time.
some see humans the way humans see the vulnerable defenseless creatures.

i will always keep believing that as long as there are slaughter house, there will be human war and bloodshed. :sweatdrop:

alice goes nuts....
10-22-2008, 08:42 PM
yes, and it is like this, terror rules are affecting everyone soon. but it is a bigger picture than this. and later people will see that all this is partly an illution for how to feel powerless out of proportions.
whatever is the truth in this, no one will suvive in a psyko-utopia like this. broken mind will mend and the blind will learn to see, and verything will happen again and again. my reality will never fit this picture anyway, i dont think like this and i dont live like this, so why should i struggle to block my free exit......

arcora
10-22-2008, 08:47 PM
Have we learned nothing from the past?

Does anyone here think that there will be bloody battles by armed forces vs. civilians when people are sent to these camps?

They don't do anything without creating a situation that guarantees support from the masses. When they decide to start moving people to the camps, masses of people will be cheering them on and assisting where possible.

There won't be any armed conflict except for the occasional struggle to incarcerate an individual.

Then there is the worst case scenario. A situation so grave that people beg to be taken to a camp.

And no...a world of vegans won't end war.

alice goes nuts....
10-22-2008, 09:20 PM
hehe, just saw the youtube clip from 15. oct. very charming.....

THE eXchanger
10-22-2008, 09:44 PM
xx

Swanny
10-22-2008, 10:03 PM
I don't believe they would set up camps and take people away to be killed.
Why would they? If they wanted people dead they would use other means like viruses or poison the water supplies, it would be much easier than declaring war in the streets.
Once word got out that it was happening it would be full scale war.

TranceAm
10-22-2008, 10:07 PM
I don't believe they would set up camps and take people away to be killed.
Why would they? If they wanted people dead they would use other means like viruses or poison the water supplies, it would be much easier than declaring war in the streets.
Once word got out that it was happening it would be full scale war.

So where will they keep the "Prisoners of War"? ;-)

Shellie
10-22-2008, 11:14 PM
Sometimes I can't help but wonder if the threat of "Nibiru" is going to be what makes millions of sheep eagerly run towards their own imprisonment.

hueyii
10-23-2008, 01:06 AM
Have we learned nothing from the past?

Does anyone here think that there will be bloody battles by armed forces vs. civilians when people are sent to these camps?

They don't do anything without creating a situation that guarantees support from the masses. When they decide to start moving people to the camps, masses of people will be cheering them on and assisting where possible.

There won't be any armed conflict except for the occasional struggle to incarcerate an individual.

Then there is the worst case scenario. A situation so grave that people beg to be taken to a camp.

And no...a world of vegans won't end war.

Yah, we learned that dictators and genocide ultimately fail.

SuperManny
10-23-2008, 01:18 AM
I read about this system a year or so ago, and of course I checked my mailbox the next time I got the mail. Sure enough, there was a little yellow dot on it. I figured I'd f*ck with them good so I switched the dot with my next door neighbor's dot. :naughty:

A few days later I noticed we weren't getting the daily newspaper anymore. I was out looking for it one day, when I noticed the neighbors were now getting a paper. I asked them if they had subscribed, because we hadn't been getting ours. They told me they had NEVER subscribed, so I switched the dots back again, and --lo and behold-- we started getting the paper again!:mfr_omg:

So now that I know their system I'm gonna remove the dot, and then call them when they stop delivering, so they'll hafta replace it. Then when my subscription expires, I'll have an extra yellow dot to put on my mailbox to re-subscribe for free!!:naughty:

Kulapops
10-23-2008, 01:28 AM
Ok here's my take on this: First, I agree with Theresa, something's changed. I feel it too. Maybe it's why my own building fear changed towards love since October 6th or so. But I feel a whole lot better...

...and I'm putting my energy into this coming change no longer being about Dastardly plans from that chap (Dick? ) from the 'Whacky Races' coming to fruition (and he could come up with a new one every week , believe you me)
but thinking it will come from another unexpected direction that is ultimately very positive. Who could ever tell the future anyway ??

So no, no deathcamps for everyone. Why ? Because everyone would include ME.

Here's why I think this and other similar stories are so evocative, so intriguing...

Because they put ME at the centre of the action (yes, I like filmscripts too... :original: )

That is going to appeal to my ego (and fear) in a big way.

Has anyone else noticed that 'the elite', TPTB, them etc , are all groups that 'I' don't belong to? That would make my ego feel small wouldn't it? It's like not being picked for the football team.

Whereas someone putting a red sticker on MY front door and coming for ME in the middle of the night makes me special. (ok... for the wrong reasons, granted :wink2: but hold steady a mo...) .

So for any of these stories, I'd say a good first check is the broader/more convoluted the scope has to be to involve me specifically in its plan , then I need to check my feelings to see if it's really just pandering to my sense of self-importance.

Know what? A fellow human showing you love or kindness makes you feel special. Loving yourself does too (no jokes please :shocked:, you know what I mean!)

That's my feeling anyway. And to be honest, involves a lot less research. lol.

hueyii
10-23-2008, 01:47 AM
Ok here's my take on this: First, I agree with Theresa, something's changed. I feel it too. Maybe it's why my own building fear changed towards love since October 6th or so. But I feel a whole lot better...

...and I'm putting my energy into this coming change no longer being about Dastardly plans from that chap (Dick? ) from the 'Whacky Races' coming to fruition (and he could come up with a new one every week , believe you me)
but thinking it will come from another unexpected direction that is ultimately very positive. Who could ever tell the future anyway ??

So no, no deathcamps for everyone. Why ? Because everyone would include ME.

Here's why I think this and other similar stories are so evocative, so intriguing...

Because they put ME at the centre of the action (yes, I like filmscripts too... :original: )

That is going to appeal to my ego (and fear) in a big way.

Has anyone else noticed that 'the elite', TPTB, them etc , are all groups that 'I' don't belong to? That would make my ego feel small wouldn't it? It's like not being picked for the football team.

Whereas someone putting a red sticker on MY front door and coming for ME in the middle of the night makes me special. (ok... for the wrong reasons, granted :wink2: but hold steady a mo...) .

So for any of these stories, I'd say a good first check is the broader/more convoluted the scope has to be to involve me specifically in its plan , then I need to check my feelings to see if it's really just pandering to my sense of self-importance.

Know what? A fellow human showing you love or kindness makes you feel special. Loving yourself does too (no jokes please :shocked:, you know what I mean!)

That's my feeling anyway. And to be honest, involves a lot less research. lol.

You are special. I never thought of it the way you have expressed. It makes total sense. But it doesnt include anything about ME!!!:mad3:

IRKCOD
10-23-2008, 03:46 AM
And the Screws Get Tighter.

Big Brother is tracking

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TRAVEL/10/22/no.fly.lists/index.html

Would query the numbers if US Citizens supposedly constitute such a small proportion of the those considered a 'risk'

Terrorist watch lists shorter than previously reported ????????????

MMe M
10-23-2008, 08:23 AM
:roll1:



That seems like an awful lot of hassle just to kill somebody. Especially if there are thousands of people spread all over the country. Think they'd waste a Chinook and a 747 on you? Just to pop a cap in your head? Think about it.....this is just (another) elaborate story!

It would be easier just to turn up at your address and kill you on the spot rather than go through all the stages of moving you here there and everywhere.....just to kill you anyway.

I haven't read the rest, only got that far before I realised it was pure scaremongering paranoid BS.


Joe, this governmant would use ak-47's at a cost of 3000.00 each to kill five mosquitos. They are evil, self serving, and moat assuredly not beyond this. The fact that the plan is so devoid of common sense should tell all that its true and in fact planned by those genius's. Letter agencies are BRILLIANT! Our government is BRILLIANT!!!

alice goes nuts....
10-23-2008, 09:49 AM
it is tempting to call them idiots....who wants a list of 16000 when the whole wold desagrees with them...so creative, now we have a problem, we need a retina scan....hihi..and so the big scary wolfe....the chip!!!!

Swanny
10-23-2008, 09:50 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0nDClh9NpZw

:original:

Humble Janitor
10-23-2008, 10:04 AM
Heh, I had a dream earlier about this but it was a little absurd.

FEMA was rounding up people and I saw them take my neighbor away. Somehow, I got away on some kind of technicality. Not sure what.

A bit separate from the FEMA dream was one of being hauled off to a forced labor camp and the type of labor was absurd. Somehow, I remember the menu being some nasty looking pork product with lots of potatoes and a weird corn/blueberry mix.

As absurd as they are, my mind must be working overtime or something when I sleep.

TranceAm
10-24-2008, 02:34 AM
Joe, this governmant would use ak-47's at a cost of 3000.00 each to kill five mosquitos. They are evil, self serving, and moat assuredly not beyond this. The fact that the plan is so devoid of common sense should tell all that its true and in fact planned by those genius's. Letter agencies are BRILLIANT! Our government is BRILLIANT!!!

The fact that these lists existed during the cold war in Europe for people sympathising with what was considered to be the 'enemy" at those times...
(And there was even an Army Manual about them black and grey lists... ;-) )
Adding that that was <probably> like all other Western Europe Defense a NATO effort..

Nuff said.

btw, Gypsies use(d?) that kind of direct on the house communication also.. Scratches in the doorpost, pebble under the gate.. This house is friendly and gives food if asked, This house will kick you off the property...

I don't get why the gov doesn't use invisible paint dots only visible with UV light.. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o7bMdAyPes ;-)

Wolfladyk
10-25-2008, 08:00 PM
Of COURSE, there are lists! They had them in the 60s and 70s, we know, to keep track of "radicals" and with modern computers, the task is much easier! And the Patriot ACT, slews of Bush's Executive orders, and FISA made sure they are legal now too!

Expect and prepare for the WORST. If it doesn't come, then you can be happy! Furthermore, the "only thing to fear is fear itself." Don't let fear stop you from seeking the truth, but rather use your fears as a motivator to get prepared however you can. :trumpet:

Hugs to all!
Wolf

Shadowstalker
10-25-2008, 08:51 PM
I am curious why everyone thinks that nabbing people at 4am a few weeks before martial law won't work.

It worked in Germany.

It worked in Russia.

It worked in the Philippines. 1972

It worked in Greece. 1967-74

It worked in Chile.

It worked in Argentina.

It worked in Venezuela.

It worked in Uruguay.

It worked in Colombia.


Do you think Americans are any more ready/awake/prepared than the people above?


http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_160.shtml

Glad to c I am not the only one to see that pattern..

Namste-Matte:wub2: