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clarkkent
10-16-2008, 03:49 AM
im trying to figure out why so many prominent figures in the fringe world both good (UFOlogy, metaphysical, spiritual,intuitives etc ) and bad ( illuminati,nazi,nordic ET's) as well as MK ultra victims, are mostly blondes/redheads with blue eyes, green eyes. im making this post because im trying to figure it out myself. i certainly dont believe all blondes and red heads are mind controlled, but it may be that something in their DNA allows them more sensitivity to the paranormal (hence all the inutiutives) as well as susceptibility to mind control.

when you look into it there really is a lack of asian, mediterreanean, native american, african etc.

heres an exceprt from a stuart swerdlow interview , he participated in the montauk experiment (mind control, genetic experimentation, time travel etc)

Earth has 6.3 Billion people, and the US has 280 Million.
1‐2% of the global population has specific Mind Control. 63‐126 Million People.
4‐5% of the US population has specific Mind Control. 12‐14 Million People.

Certain characteristics are better for different mind control. Most mind control is time
based. The characteristics they look for most for mind control are Blond Hair, Blue or
Green Eyed, people. Whether recessive or dominated gene It doesn’t matter. High IQ
people w/specific talents are also sought after.
Indigo is a code word for talented children to target.
The survey’s you have to take in school, and prior to getting a job are used to
categorize what your abilities are and what job you should do.*Eventually they want to
make it so everyone takes the test and the job it says is the job you do for life.

The*Illuminati members are 100% Mind Controlled. The Committee of 300 is also
100% Mind Controlled.
Some groups of people are very difficult to mind control, this is one reason Africa, and
blacks in general are targeted. Native Americans are also difficult to mind control.


http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/8276/blossomgoodchildvc2.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) blossom goodchild

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4935/cobriensh3.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) cathy obrien MK ultra victim

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5705/amorahquanyinuv5.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) amaorah quan yi (pleidian author)

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5364/doreenvirtueml6.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) doreen virtue (indigo children author/intuitive)


http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7313/jamesgillilandmtadamscz5.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) james gilliland (pleidian contactee/intuitive)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4298/drstevengreerbg8.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) dr steven greer (contactee/intuitive)

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6010/bjm04closeupds0.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) barabara marciniak (pleiadian contactee/intuitive)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2154/reginacantina2lr7.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) regina cantina (conscious media network/intuitive)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3979/barabrahandclowik6.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) barbara hand clow (pledian author/inuitive)

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/865/davidbigsmilelsmm1.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) david wilcock (intuitive/fringe researcher)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3741/marilynmonroeqe4.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) marilyn monroe (mk ultra/monarch program victim)

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1372/lydiahearstpicture1io8.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) lydia hearst (illuminati heiress to the hearst empire)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4746/etstaff2ho2.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) ( a group called "ETfriends")


http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5504/billandkerrysmic9.jpg (http://www.imagehosting.com/) Bill and Kerry , researchers and creators of avalon :)



heres a link to an ex illuminati memember about illuminati mind control techniques

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/svali_speaks.htm

and another swerdlow interview

http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum14/185.html

fawziya
10-16-2008, 04:04 AM
I think David Icke, in his latest book on (the) global conspiracy explains this phenomenon very well. However, you may need to be open to the thought of other intelligent life outside of our planet & third density dimension.

Here's something to ponder. I am Asian. I have a child who is half Asian & half caucasian. (Father is dark blond & hazel-eyed. German descent.) My child is dark-haired, brown-eyed & light-skinned. He has a child with a blond-haired, blue-eyed caucasian woman. My grandchild is a replica of my daughter-in-law; very BLOND-haired, blue-eyed & very white complexion.

Consider man being of average intelligence & interbred with a race of beings with attributes of psychic abilities, blond-haired & blue-eyed traits. Some people retain fair physical attribues. Some not.

What do you think. Am I crazy or totally wrong?

clarkkent
10-16-2008, 04:19 AM
i honestly dont know what the answer is.

PLENTY of spiritual people are of all colors and many races report contact from ET's. i certainly dont think its our destiny to become all blonde and blue eyed because its of a higher ET vibration or anything like that.

im trying to piece together the atlantis/nazi/nordic/illuminati connection and trying to figure out why so many prominent figures on the fringe are indeed blondes and red heads. swerdlow says that the blonde genetics are some kind of reptillian hybrid and are more open to programming. thats one perspective but it doesnt account for all the blonde intuitives in this field, i really dont believe theyre all mind controlled.

its a mystery.

fawziya
10-16-2008, 04:30 AM
What I meant is that, perhaps one source of the blondness & psychic ability connection is due to "outside" influence of a blond-type. However, look at all those different stars (& accompanying worlds out there) in the Universe. Perhaps, our planet has been infused from hundreds of different "off (this) planet" influences.

Check out Credo Mutwa (who is African) & what he has to say about indigenous Africans & other indigenous people throughout the world. He mentions the "cross breeding" of other intelligent life with ALL people on this planet.

It's amazing. But you must ponder the idea of how small "we" are in the bigger context of all that is.

PS Not all blonds are "really" blonds. One way to discern a true blond, from not is to (at the very least) look at the shade of the eyebrows.

Frank Samuel
10-16-2008, 04:35 AM
You know Clark you posed an intresting question, here's goes a story from work ,for a while at work my job was to receive white engineers from our company visiting PR. Most where very proud that they where smart intellectuals , often trying to belittle the ignorant Boricuas. I laughed a lot, because knowledge sometimes limits your brain to be too linear. Needless to say common sense was not a strong trait of a lot of these young engineers. Too much hypothetical theories very little practical application. For which I always pointed out that they must have a balance. So from my puny Boricuan
mind I will guess that this is one reason why they make such an easy target for mind control weapons :biggrin2:

zorgon
10-16-2008, 05:12 AM
i i certainly dont think its our destiny to become all blonde and blue eyed because its of a higher ET vibration or anything like that.im trying to piece together the atlantis/nazi/nordic/illuminati connection and trying to figure out why so many prominent figures on the fringe are indeed blondes and red heads.

Ach Ja Mein Herr... das is simple... Ve are the Master race... The Vedic Gods are white (except the Blue guy) Jehovah is white... The Natives worshiped the "Great White Spirit"... The Venusians are white

But I have yet to meet a Redhead that suffers from mind control... those are feisty critters :thumb_yello:

Mind control PFFTT Can you show me proof of that? Other than the Youtube crowd of course



swerdlow says.

So what does swerdlow know?

Frank Samuel
10-16-2008, 05:33 AM
Zorgon was ist meine fruend ? Ich bin ein dumkoft puerto riquanich.
Ich sprechen ein bissen deutch auf. Who has du gelernt deutch. Ich habe gelieb in de bundesrepublic fur seven jahren. Heute nach in PR ist nich ser geut mit de weather. Was denks du ? HAARP wirleicht oder meine puerto riquanich dumkoft. :biggrin2:

clarkkent
10-16-2008, 05:46 AM
Ach Ja Mein Herr... das is simple... Ve are the Master race... The Vedic Gods are white (except the Blue guy) Jehovah is white... The Natives worshiped the "Great White Spirit"... The Venusians are white

But I have yet to meet a Redhead that suffers from mind control... those are feisty critters :thumb_yello:

Mind control PFFTT Can you show me proof of that? Other than the Youtube crowd of course




So what does swerdlow know?


well if you read the post you would have seen that i wrote about his involvement in the montauk project which has a lot to do about mind control, i also said thats one perspective.

and if organized religion is what you look for to back up your seeming endorsement of a white superiority im surprised your on this forum.

are you saying "look everyone worships white people" well my research points to that religions were created to control minds, yes many have good spiritual teachings but "worshipping" anything seems ridiculous.

i dont know why im even responding since you basically said most cultures worship white people (which is incorrect, and even if it was true doesnt answer my basic question in the thread) clearly i differ in opinion from you

heres a link on swerdlow

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1243402004150073691

ps- ZORGON -considering your avatar and that i havent liked some of you other posts i googled your name and this is what i found

http://d.imagehost.org/0531/zorgon.gif

The main villains in the movie are the Zorgons; reptilian, biped tool-users who are fond of heat and are attracted to a heat source much like bees are attracted to nectar, because they are cold-blooded. The Zorgons, having burned their own planet to obtain more heat, are nomads who travel through space seeking more to burn and who keep a flock of four-eyed goats on their ship.

also regarding your avatar i got this--

The Rosicrucians (The Ancient Order of Rosae Crucis, or AMORC), a Protestant order, began in early-seventeenth century Europe, and settled much of its base of operations in San Jose, California beginning in 1915. Referring to their meeting places not as lodges but as ‘universities,’ and to their members as ‘students,’ the Rosicrucians are heavily invested in the dissemination of knowledge to its initiates. One of their early tracts, a 1616 book titled The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz pays homage to the Knights in the name of its protagonist. Rosenkreutz translates to ‘rose cross,’ the symbol of the Templar order.

In fact, there are a number of quasi-Masonic and quasi-Templar groups.

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reptillian masonic etc etc, no wonder you think whites should be worshipped, ill ignore your future posts

enemyofNWO
10-16-2008, 10:15 AM
i honestly dont know what the answer is.

PLENTY of spiritual people are of all colors and many races report contact from ET's. i certainly dont think its our destiny to become all blonde and blue eyed because its of a higher ET vibration or anything like that.

im trying to piece together the atlantis/nazi/nordic/illuminati connection and trying to figure out why so many prominent figures on the fringe are indeed blondes and red heads. swerdlow says that the blonde genetics are some kind of reptillian hybrid and are more open to programming. thats one perspective but it doesnt account for all the blonde intuitives in this field, i really dont believe theyre all mind controlled.

its a mystery.


I observed similar things with possible MK Ultra victims in Australia .
One of them was a redhead , with blue eyes of Irish descent , the father was a Mason .This person was very easily hipnotized according to her husband . She was an active agent of the secret police .

Lt Ripley
10-16-2008, 11:58 AM
Zorgon was ist meine fruend ? Ich bin ein dumkoft puerto riquanich.
Ich sprechen ein bissen deutch auf. Who has du gelernt deutch. Ich habe gelieb in de bundesrepublic fur seven jahren. Heute nach in PR ist nich ser geut mit de weather. Was denks du ? HAARP wirleicht oder meine puerto riquanich dumkoft. :biggrin2:

Attempt at translation:

Zorgon, who is my friend. I am a dumb Puerto Rican? (I HOPE that's NOT correct!)

I speak little German. Where did you learn German? I have lived in *states* or *state republic* for seven (should be SIEBEN) years. Today the weather in Puerto Rico is not very good. What do you think?

*Last bit something about HAARP, but I don't understand the word "wirleicht"*

How did I go, Frank Samuel?

Frank Samuel
10-16-2008, 02:07 PM
At ease Lt. Ripley Is just a little humor. I love poking fun at myself makes me feel a little more human. I was station 7 years in Germany. My grammar is bad . I love project avalon for the diversities of opinions theories etc. my point if you take yourself to serious you'll get a heart attack or something. I am always laughing thinking creating. So much to learn so little time.
Be safe and be happy Ripley, by the way I love the movie aliens, a little scary!!!:surfing:Got to go back to work...

fawziya
10-16-2008, 03:53 PM
. :mad3:

fawziya
10-16-2008, 07:06 PM
"Jenny" edited out my previous post from today. What happened to the concept of free & (diverse) speech? Nothing was done when Zorgon posted the following RACIST remark:


Ach Ja Mein Herr... das is simple... Ve are the Master race... The Vedic Gods are white (except the Blue guy) Jehovah is white... The Natives worshiped the "Great White Spirit"... The Venusians are white

divinethread
10-16-2008, 08:14 PM
hello clark,
I must say this is a brilliant observation. Good job:thumb_yello:
Firstly I would like to correct the person who said "all religions worship white Gods". That's not true all major hindu gods are dark in complexion and it is specified. Shiva, Krishna, Rama etc.
Secondly I feel this white supremacy has links to Aryan Invasion theory/Myth: here are a few excerpts that might interest you. I'm also adding a link to a list of articles if you wish to do some reading on this subject:
Lastly it is just my opinion that mind control has to do less with genetics and more with the soul. Mind you this is just me thinking aloud --- 'what if younger the soul easier to control, the older it gets harder it becomes'.
Just a thought :smoke:

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Oswald Arnold Gottfried Spengler (1880 – 1936) was a German historian and philosopher whose interests also included mathematics, science, and art. He is best known for his book The Decline of the West in which he puts forth a cyclical theory of the rise and decline of civilizations.



Spengler observed this about Eurocentrism:



“The Western European area is regarded as a fixed pole, a unique patch chosen on the surface of the sphere for no better reason, it seems, than because we live on it – and great histories of millennial duration and mighty faraway Cultures are made to revolve around this pole in all modesty. It is a quaintly conceived system of sun and planets. We select a single bit of ground as the natural center of the historical system, and make it the central sun. From it all the events of history receive their real light; from it their importance is judged in perspective.”



(source: The Decline of the West - By Oswald Spengler p. 13).

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The first point to note is that the idea of the Aryans as foreigners who invaded India and destroyed the existing Harappan Civilization is a modern European invention; it receives no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.

The same is true of the notion of the Aryans as a race; it finds no support in Indian literature or tradition. (And genetics demolishes it.) The word 'Arya' in Sanskrit means noble and never a race. In fact, the authoritative Sanskrit lexicon (c. 450 AD), the famous Amarakosha gives the following definition:

mahakula kulinarya sabhya sajjana sadhavah .

An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct. And the great epic Ramayana has a singularly eloquent expression describing Rama as:

arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah - Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone. The Rig Veda also uses the word Arya something like thirty six times, but never to mean a race. The nearest to a definition that one can find in the Rigveda is probably:

praja arya jyotiragrah ...

Children of Arya are led by light - Rig Veda VII. 33.17.

Thus, the modern notion of an Aryan-Dravidian racial divide is contradicted by ancient records. We have it on the authority of Manu that the Dravidians were also part of the Aryan fold. Interestingly, so were the Chinese. Race never had anything to do with it until the Europeans adopted the ancient word to give expression to their nationalistic and other aspirations.

Please refer to Naimisha Journal for interesting articles on Aryan Invasion Theory).

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Since the nineteenth century, India's ancient history from Vedic times and the true content of the Veda have both been distorted by a blinkered and unsympathetic scholarship. British rulers, European scholars and missionaries combined in a campaign to disparage the roots of Indian civilization, and used the wholly groundless Aryan Invasion theory to sow seeds of division in the Indian society - "divide and rule," but also "divide and convert." The same fallacies continue to be promoted today. Unfortunately, many of the wounds the Aryan invasion theory inflicted on Indian society are still painfully open today, nurtured as they have been by missionaries, Marxist historians and politicians, who together have made sure that divisions between castes have been sharpening rather than subsiding - for the simple reason that without such divisions they would all be out of business. Today, it is necessary to examines the birth of the Aryan myth, and the misuses it has bred; it then gives a fresh look at the invasion theory in the light of recent scientific evidence, and shows how it now stands overwhelmingly disproved. (source: The Invasion That Never Was - By Michel Danino and Sujata Nahar p. 26).

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The theory of the Aryan immigration into India from somewhere has been so often repeated by the western savants that it has become an article of faith even with the Indian scholars! But the Vedas refer to the Himalayas as the Uttara Giri i.e. the northern border and and contain no hints of an Aryan immigration into India from abroad.

(source: Indian Culture and the Modern Age - By Dewan Bahadur K. S. Ramaswami Sastri Annamalai University. 1956 p. 46-51).

Several eminent personalities including Swami Vivekanand, Gurudev Rabindranath Tagore and Shri Aurobindo firmly believed that Aryans were homegrown, born and brought up in India. Many chose to dismiss those views simply as irrational, inspirational or ultra-nationalistic. Yet, the archeological finds being uncovered presently, year after year, supported by continuing historical & scholarly research seem to prove that Swami Vivekanand, Rabindranath Tagore and Shri Aurobindo, and many learned personalities were correct to raise pointed questions against the Aryan Invasion Theory.

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But today, this theory is being challenged by two new discoveries, one archaeological and the other linguistic. Firstly, in the Rig Veda, the Ganges, India's sacred river, is only mentioned once, but the mythic Saraswati is praised fifty times. For a long time, the Saraswati river was indeed considered a myth, until the American satellite Landstat was able to photograph and map the bed of this magnificent river, which was nearly 14 km wide and took its source in the Himalayas. Archaeologist Paul-Henri Francfort, who studied the Saraswati regionat the beginning of the Nineties, found out that the Saraswati had "disappeared", because around 2200 B.C., an immense drought reduced the whole region to aridity and famine. "Thus", he writes, "most inhabitants moved away from the Saraswati to settle on the banks of the Indus and Sutlej rivers". According to official history, the Vedas were composed around 1500 BC, some even say 1200 BC. Yet, the Rig Veda describes India as it was before the great drought which dried up the Saraswati, which means in effect that the so-called Indus, or Harappan civilisation, was a continuation of the Vedic epoch, which ended approximately when the Saraswati dried up.

Recently, the famous Indus seals discovered on the site of Mohenjo Daro and Harappa have been deciphered by Dr N. Rajaram, a mathematician who worked at one time for the NASA and Dr Jha, a distinguished linguist. In the biased light of the Aryan invasion theory, these seals were presumed to be written in a crude Harappan (read Dravidian) script, although theyhad never been convincingly deciphered. But Rajaram and Jha, using an ancient Vedic glossary, the Nighantu, were able to prove that the script is of Sanskrit lineage and have so far deciphered 2000 seals. As the discovery of the Saraswati river, the decipherment of the Indus scripts also goes to prove that the Harappan civilisation, of which the seals are a product, belonged to the latter part of the Vedic Age and had close connections with Vedantic works like the Sutras and the Upanishads.

Hence, it is becoming more and more clear that there never was an Aryan invasion in India, a theory which was imposed upon the subcontinent by its colonizers and is today kept alive by Nehruvian historians (such as Romila Thapar), Christian missionaries (it is thus easy to convert the downtrodden tribals and Dravidians, by telling them that Hinduism was a religion thrust upon them by the hated "Brahmin" invaders) and the communists (who hate anything Hindu).

By Francois Gautier, the South Asia correspondent of `Le Figaro', France's largest circulation newspaper, and the author of `Rewriting Indian History'.

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http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Articles3.htm
(If u wish to research more)

:original:

BeaTnik-BandiT
10-16-2008, 10:52 PM
Lastly it is just my opinion that mind control has to do less with genetics and more with the soul.



I disagree. That's the opposite that is true. Genetics has to do with your body. The body's purpose is to be your soul's vehicule here, in the 3rd density.

The soul will always be free, unless it decides to give itself away in certain cases.

I would like to add that Stuart Swerdlow says that people with dark complexion are less controlable than Blue eyed Blond haired people, thus less desirable to the Illuminati.
He says that the body is a reflexion of mind-patterns and vice-versa:

Dark skinned are more 'grounded' due to their brownish skin color.
As a result these individuals are less mind-controlable.

He says that's why you get mass slaughters in Africa.
(Needless to say that Africa is looted of it's gold, diamonds etc...
by Big Corporations while it's native population is starving to death.)

salute.

zorgon
10-17-2008, 02:43 AM
i dont know why im even responding since you basically said most cultures worship white people (which is incorrect, and even if it was true doesnt answer my basic question in the thread)

You seem confused... I would suggest councelling :thumb_yello:


clearly i differ in opinion from you

Hadn't noticed


The Rosicrucians (The Ancient Order of Rosae Crucis, or AMORC), a Protestant order,

Coulda saved the trouble and get the real fact from the link I posted :wink2:
http://www.amorc.org/


ill ignore your future posts

Promise? :thumb_yello:

Talk about mind control.... whew....

I'm surprised the women on here haven't tarred and feathered you yet though



..

THE eXchanger
10-17-2008, 02:58 AM
[QUOTE=BeaTnik-BandiT;53736He says that's why you get mass slaughters in Africa.
(Needless to say that Africa is looted of it's gold, diamonds etc...by Big Corporations while it's native population is starving to death.)salute.[/QUOTE]

Remember, that souls choose,
the situations that they land into...

the result of many, who choose places,
where they are straving to death,
certain circumstances, existed for all of them,
in their past life cycles...

they are here, as, a lesson to many of us,
as, to what can happen, if you destroy a planet !!!

(please, do NOT jump all over me...
for saying this, but, it is a truth)

these souls destroyed,
the last planet they where on --

they are being given, a new chance
under some pretty harsh conditions --
but, certainly NOT liek the ones they left

NOW, we, who are more fortunate
we also are given a lesson,
as, to how do we assist these brothers/and, sisters
are we compassionate, kind, and, loving,
are we willing to give, to help, etc.,

(let us, NOT do to this earth,
what they did to their last planet,
and, perhaps, if we really looked,
as, to what happens to those, who do NOT operate,
as, they could)

it is proof positive, that, THE CONSQUENCES
you will face, are a direct result
of playing out two different sides of a monad

if you get robbed--you have robbed someone else

if you get murdered--you will have murdered someone else

if you get beat up -- you will have beat up someone else

you will always play both sides of every equation--
(even if you do NOT believe this,
it is an absolute truth)
THERE IS NO ESCAPING IT !!!

otherwise, you could NEVER learn
the consquences / nor, transend the lessons
if you did NOT realiSe, how it is,


TO UNDERSTAND, that saying...
to have to know how it is,
to walk a mile in another persons shoes

this is why it is so vastly important...
to do onto others, as, you would have them do onto you

eventually; you graduate all the assortment of monads

then, you get to a real interesting one

just before the LOVE MONAD /
which leads to the ultimate one,
a HEART LINK

it's called
hopelessly loving - hopelessly LOVED

this is where you hopelessly love someone;
and; they do NOT hopelessly love you back

(my desire in this life,
is to attempt a love monad/leading to a heart_link
with someone)

but, i did go through
this "hopelessly loving" - "hopelessly loved"
for nearly 25 years -- it is a real frustrating monad
to play out -- & i did a lot of it, on both sides of that
equation

as, for the "redhead" comments --:mfr_omg:

i used to hide my "red" hair for decades :lmao:

now, i am comfortable, with the colour of "red" :wub2:

love
susan
the eXchanger

fawziya
10-17-2008, 03:49 AM
I went to Dictionary.Com for this definition:

Cau·ca·sian

1. Anthropology. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one of the traditional racial divisions of humankind, marked by fair to dark skin, straight to tightly curled hair, and light to very dark eyes, and originally inhabiting Europe, parts of North Africa, western Asia, and India: no longer in technical use.

2. of or pertaining to the Caucasus mountain range.

3. of or related to the non-Indo-European, non-Turkic languages of the Caucasus region.

–noun 4. Anthropology. a member of the peoples traditionally classified as the Caucasian race, esp. those peoples having light to fair skin: no longer in technical use.

5. a native of Caucasia.

In regards to reincarnation, it is my understanding that souls that wish to "challenge themselves" to learn & grow in breadth & scope, incarnate (on this earth, for instance), under more challenging circumstances than a life of easy circumstances. Perhaps, one would be poor, blind, physically or mentally handicapped, lose a love one prematurely, or be a TARGET of abuse or mistreatment for whatever reason. Rise, rise, rise to the "challenge", with dignity & poise...& thus will you reap just rewards.

Also if some people are "SO SUPERIOR" in some respects are "they" also responsible (because of their high positions of power, leadership & authority) for screwing up this planet so much?

Whatever...What do I know? I'm just a tiny black dog.

clarkkent
10-17-2008, 05:04 AM
well my intent with this thread was to try and figure out (if any) reasons there could be to the preponderance of blondes on both sides of the fringe circles

ufology/new age vs illuminati/nazi

and what if anything links them together somehow.

i dont imagine the blonde or redheaded women on the forums would "tar and feather" me because there is no reason to, im not saying anything offensive- im pointing out that blondes/redheads seem to be at the forefront in this field both on the "good" and "bad" sides.

if anyone has links to info on why this might be then thats great, im not trying to make this a "blondes vs everyone else" thread.

as far as indigenous peoples geting what they deserve karmically speaking, (them deserving rape,murder,torture, genocide etc) well to be honest no one really knows if thats exactly how "karma" works - thats not a "truth" its an opinion on how it works. would you propose explaining to dying africans "hey guys, ya blew up yer planet-sorry you have to butchered and get aids now" if thats the case why not exteriminate them completely since they were so bad in their last life, whats wrong with guantanamo torture, apparently they deserve it! did the jews blow up a planet too? howbout the native americans?


how do you propose dick cheney's next life will be like? if he got a cushy existence this time around full of privilege and wealth then that means he "earned" it in his last life right? how is it that he can get an easy life this time, then have done so much evil, then in the next life he'll be punished? is that how karma works? like a yo yo of "i did good, i did bad". thats like going to 6th grade, then getting demoted to 5th for doing something stupid, then getting to 6th again through being good, then going back to 5th if you screw it up again.

i have a hard time believing the universe works this way.

anyhow im off topic.

ps-heres my favorite blonde on the "good" side http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95AEzyWZX8I

Humble Janitor
10-17-2008, 05:37 AM
As a child, I was blond (more like snow-white) with blue eyes.

The ironic thing is that I am actually Native American and identify as such. Both parents have strong characteristics of Native Americans (brown skin, black hair). I no longer have blond hair (haven't for years) and am going bald. Brother is the same way. We both have a similar skin tint as our parents that will probably darken as we get older. I started losing my hair around the same age my grandfather starting losing his (Age 22) and he had blond hair.

BeaTnik-BandiT
10-17-2008, 06:58 PM
Remember, that souls choose,
the situations that they land into...

the result of many, who choose places,
where they are straving to death,
certain circumstances, existed for all of them,
in their past life cycles...

they are here, as, a lesson to many of us,
as, to what can happen, if you destroy a planet !!!

(please, do NOT jump all over me...
for saying this, but, it is a truth)

these souls destroyed,
the last planet they where on --

.....................
love
susan
the eXchanger

Thanks Susan, thats a good theory.

My point is (in Swerdlows words) that the Illuminati are elitists, and don't bother killing countless lives (here the Africans) because they aren't controllable, too 'grounded'
(thus useless to them)

---AND----

At the same time, theses killings serves their 'ritual' purposes as well as to ease their conquest agenda to suck out all wealth from this territory.

Many here already know that Africa was (very likely) a testing ground for the AIDS virus.

It could be that the African native people have a victim mentality.
(On the other hand, the only help they get, is so little that they barely survive)

The universe works like a homeostatic system: it always self adjusts to maintain a stable equilibrium.

If you have a Victim mentality, you will attract an Oppressor.


take care.

GoingToFast
10-17-2008, 07:46 PM
ClarkKent, I am a redhead with green eyes born in Scandinavia are you telling me that I am a stupid easy-manipulated buffoon ore what, I really donīt get which it is in your post. Also, in your post you are categorizing the Nordic ETīs as "Bad blonds/redheads" on what grounds do you make this assumption.

BeaTnik-BandiT
10-17-2008, 08:32 PM
are you telling me that I am a stupid easy-manipulated buffoon .

These are your words, NOT his.
Read 'Blue Blood True Blood' from Stuart Swerdlow.

take care.

burgundia
10-17-2008, 08:42 PM
Looks like sb is trying to bring some discord here. I have blue eyes but dark hair? What am I? Bad or good. makes no sense.
I must admit I had a few dreams that came true and my intuition never fails me. Am I being mond-controlled?

GoingToFast
10-17-2008, 08:49 PM
clarkkent, whats your genetics then, how do you look, under what category do you fall "good and strong" ore "bad and easy-manipulated", it would be very interesting to know.

GoingToFast
10-17-2008, 09:03 PM
What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

Frank Samuel
10-17-2008, 09:20 PM
While Clark poses a intresting question I would respectfully disagree. Why ?
Survival, inclusion, economic opportunities, many other things which has little to do with ideologies is the reason why these people join these groups. It has nothing to do with race. The old saying applies here is not what you know is who you know. If my friend is a Free Mason and his economic status is better than mine then you join by association. Puerto Ricans are not consider "whites" the town I live in was founded by a Free Mason. Juncos named after Manuel Fernandez Juncos. Brainwashing, mind control is not 100% effective. Why ? I give you the examples of veterans many are against the war. Indoctrination and braiwashing is part of training a soldier to loose his or her fear in order to pull the trigger and kill another person. The effects are not permanent , I rather solve an argument trough peaceful means. Self Defense is automatic, I just learn a new type of self defense less destructive.:thumb_yello:

fawziya
10-17-2008, 09:23 PM
CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

Carol
10-17-2008, 09:33 PM
ClarkKent, I am a redhead with green eyes born in Scandinavia are you telling me that I am a stupid easy-manipulated buffoon ore what, I really donīt get which it is in your post. Also, in your post you are categorizing the Nordic ETīs as "Bad blonds/redheads" on what grounds do you make this assumption.

hmmm, this is a complicated subject because much of this information is from Steward Swerdlow who was a MK ultra mind-controlled subjectee. I've listened to several of his interviews and read his books several years back. As I also recall ther was a genetic blood link and type. For example, these particular subjects have psy abilities which are genetically passed down from one generation to the next and I also recall where the origin of the psy ability is supposedly from ET hybridization thousands of years back. That is if I remember what he wrote correctly. So from a genetic perspective one would examine both lineage and psy abilities.

I've also read the Billy Mier info.. beginning back in the early 90s and when I listened to Miriam's take on her ET experience a few things began to click for me. I don't really know if I trust the Plaidians. And I wonder if it was the Plaidians (the Nordic looking aliens who started the genetic altering). And then there is the whole issue as to their real relationship with the Reptiians and the greys. From what we've been told by a number of credible witnesses the greys and Reptilians work together. And I recently listened to a so-called Palaidian message where it does appear that they may also work with the Reptilians. So..I'm now re-evaluating this whole ET situation from several perspectives.. one as my own ET experience, two from the many reports of those who have been "taken" and three, from those who were invited and have total conscious recall like Alex Collier whom I've also personally spoken with.

When discussing mind-control one has to go back to the ultimate beings/creatures/ETs who have mind-control down to a very fine art. From what I've read regarding MK ultra and the personal testimony of a friend who was being groomed to become one of the higher ups of a Satanic group (which did fracture her personality through horrific child abuse and it was her strong spiritual connection to god which got her through all of that), one type of mind control, on the grossest level is done through early childhood "abusive" conditioning. However, the ETs have methods of mind controlled just with telepathy... while the military has all types of gadgets and drugs they can use.

The whole issue of mind control is exceptionally complex because where does one start?

Does one begin with the ETs? Or does one begin with MK ultra? Does one expand into Religion and the role it played? Or does one focus on the cultural context? Does one look at how the media uses mind control for advertising... ? Or does one start with what Stewart Swedlow had to share from his own personal experience.

I do have some very strong opinions which are newly forming about some of this and I'm of the opinion if I were to choose which ETs to be associated with I'd go with who Dr. Greer is connected up with and/or Alex Collier's ET friends.

And I will share that any ET "race" that blocks memories is a group I would not trust. All of the contactees that I've known personally, or read about, who had positive experiences had total conscious recall and were invited, not taken, if they went aboard a ship. For now, mind-control is my rule of thumb regarding what I do know about ETs. If they use it on humans they're up to no good. That is why Miriam's interview was a bit disturbing to me. I felt she was telling the truth, but that she was holding back other information. I also thought it was the Plaidians whom were her contacts and she did describe not remembering info. That was a red flag for me.

fawziya
10-17-2008, 09:41 PM
Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

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CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

Carol
10-17-2008, 11:23 PM
Hi fawziya,
I have Credo Mutwa's DVDs where he was interviewed by David Icke. He was very interesting to listen to as his experience was with the greys and Reptilians. However, Alex Collier did say his ET sources told him that the differernt races came from different ET sources... different planets and such, so it is no wonder we don't get along. That comment had me laughing for days.

From other materials I've read it also seems that some ETs did live among the people many years back... including the Reptilians among the Native Americans.

That little bit came from a military abductee who revealed to me that she has 6 hybrid Reptilian children. She had also writen a book which I have but it doesn't contain some of the other interesting follow-up information that she shared personally.

Re: Blondes,red heads, blue eyes, MK ULTRA, and the fringe

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CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

Kituwa
10-18-2008, 07:45 AM
I am not sure where you get the blonde hair blue eye thing on mkultra victims. I am an mkultra victim myself and i have talked to a good many others and very few of them had light colored hair or eyes, in fact by far most have dark hair and eyes, myself included.Also most all of us are a good percentage of native american blood. Trauma based mind control involves totally breaking down a child to a vegitative state and i would think it wouldnt much matter what race you are, once broken to that degree we are all the same. It is obvious that they looked for certain bloodlines but the true reason for this i am not sure about. Was it certain traits or was it a DNA thing? DNA tests were not available at that time so maybe they looked for certain traits associated with bloodlines as it was the best they could do at the time.I did find on the net recently that a family member of mine had a DNA test done to do with bloodline stuff on my white half. Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line.I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence. I have fairly clear memories of part of the break down stuff they did to me starting at about 4 years of age. Always have remembered this, just didnt understand what it was until many years later.I have good memory of my past up until i was around 6 years old, then a total blank until i was in the 3rd grade. I have sent off for my public school records and they only start at 3rd grade, no record of any kind of 1st and second grade at all. As time goes on i remember more and more bits and pieces of things. Just last week i had some really strange memories that i think have a lot to do with how they went about creating my diffrent personalities. I will start a diffrent thread on that soon as i am getting off topic here.If you are getting most of your info on mkultra by reading what is on the net you may be getting a good bit of mis info as a lot of what i have read is off a good bit or misunderstood.I know a lot of the O'Brian stuff is kind of hard for me to buy. I believe she is being honest but i also think she is unknowing dis infoing a good bit without her knowing it. I dont believe there is any way anyone could have total recall of everything like she seems to think, it just dont work that way.When you are broken and programmed as a young child, and grow up that way, you are and never will be 'normal' again. There is no normal to go back to,you are what they made you. I have often wondered myself what kind of person i would be today if this had never happened to me.I cant even tell you witch personality of mine is the real me.Some of the personalities i am aware of and sort of know when a change is occuring and others i have no, or little memory of.Forget what you have seen about multiple personalities from movies like the 3 faces of eve , it just isnt like that, at least for mkultra types anyway.When i have one of the changes that i am aware of it is only noticable to my wife or a friends that is around me a lot, otherwise you would never know. The major personality shifts never happen in front of other people,its a built in thing for me to go off by myself when it happens.Major personality shifts do not happen by accedental triggers like you sometimes hear about. This i am absolutly positive about. Only my handler controls that.We are not loose canons that can go off by accedent, we are probobly more in control on that account than normal people are, just not 'our own' control.I am not even sure if i WANTED to take a life that i could do it unless it was instructed by a handler. This is why i get concerned when i hear other victims say they are not able to be controlled by their handler anymore. I do think there are things we can do to keep the handlers from having accesss to triggering us though and most other victims i have talked to already know what things to avoid.

BeaTnik-BandiT
10-18-2008, 03:48 PM
I am not sure where you get the blonde hair blue eye thing on mkultra victims. I am an mkultra victim myself and i have talked to a good many others and very few of them had light colored hair or eyes, in fact by far most have dark hair and eyes, myself included.Also most all of us are a good percentage of native american blood. Trauma based mind control involves totally breaking down a child to a vegitative state and i would think it wouldnt much matter what race you are, once broken to that degree we are all the same. It is obvious that they looked for certain bloodlines but the true reason for this i am not sure about. Was it certain traits or was it a DNA thing? DNA tests were not available at that time so maybe they looked for certain traits associated with bloodlines as it was the best they could do at the time.I did find on the net recently that a family member of mine had a DNA test done to do with bloodline stuff on my white half. Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line.I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence. I have fairly clear memories of part of the break down stuff they did to me starting at about 4 years of age. Always have remembered this, just didnt understand what it was until many years later.I have good memory of my past up until i was around 6 years old, then a total blank until i was in the 3rd grade. I have sent off for my public school records and they only start at 3rd grade, no record of any kind of 1st and second grade at all. As time goes on i remember more and more bits and pieces of things. Just last week i had some really strange memories that i think have a lot to do with how they went about creating my diffrent personalities. I will start a diffrent thread on that soon as i am getting off topic here.If you are getting most of your info on mkultra by reading what is on the net you may be getting a good bit of mis info as a lot of what i have read is off a good bit or misunderstood.I know a lot of the O'Brian stuff is kind of hard for me to buy. I believe she is being honest but i also think she is unknowing dis infoing a good bit without her knowing it. I dont believe there is any way anyone could have total recall of everything like she seems to think, it just dont work that way.When you are broken and programmed as a young child, and grow up that way, you are and never will be 'normal' again. There is no normal to go back to,you are what they made you. I have often wondered myself what kind of person i would be today if this had never happened to me.I cant even tell you witch personality of mine is the real me.Some of the personalities i am aware of and sort of know when a change is occuring and others i have no, or little memory of.Forget what you have seen about multiple personalities from movies like the 3 faces of eve , it just isnt like that, at least for mkultra types anyway.When i have one of the changes that i am aware of it is only noticable to my wife or a friends that is around me a lot, otherwise you would never know. The major personality shifts never happen in front of other people,its a built in thing for me to go off by myself when it happens.Major personality shifts do not happen by accedental triggers like you sometimes hear about. This i am absolutly positive about. Only my handler controls that.We are not loose canons that can go off by accedent, we are probobly more in control on that account than normal people are, just not 'our own' control.I am not even sure if i WANTED to take a life that i could do it unless it was instructed by a handler. This is why i get concerned when i hear other victims say they are not able to be controlled by their handler anymore. I do think there are things we can do to keep the handlers from having accesss to triggering us though and most other victims i have talked to already know what things to avoid.

Ok. Thanks for the post.
Sorry for these terrible experiences.

I totally agree with you that mind control is more of a 'procedure' that breaks the individual's mind into compliance.
I agree too that this can be done successfully on every individual independently of their genetic heritage...


Turned out i am directly decended from a well known scottish royalty line. I dont know if that was part of the reason they chose me or if it is just coincidence.

Yes. Lineage is of the utmost importance to them and that could explain why you were involved.
This is why you see many world leaders having the same blood ancestors.

Regarding my post, i was reporting what i understood of Swerdlow's work.
And by the way, he could help you A LOT if you are in need.

I am quite sure at one point he told that people with dark complexion are 'harder' to manipulate for some reasons.

If we take a look at 'native' tribes all around the world, a lot of them have a 'darker' complexion.
These tribes are well connnected with the Earth energies, and know how to work with them in wisdom.

That could be a good reason why they were exterminated 'en masse' by the PTBs over the ages.

take care

BeaTnik-BandiT
10-18-2008, 04:17 PM
CREDO MUTWA - Distinguished African Shaman knows the TRUE HISTORY of AFRICA. CREDO MUTWA has dark features. He reveals not all Africans have BLACK hair. Some have RED HAIR. He explains how "outside" (alien to this planet) forces infiltrated humanity by interpopulating with races of all kinds on this earth. Thus, perhaps, the source of OUR psychic & intellectual attributes & spiritual connections.

Can anyone, intelligently, explain the reason for the different physical features of people all over the earth? In the north, for example, why are some people white-skinned w/light hair/eyes while also others in another part of the globe (in the north) are white/yellow-skinned w/dark eyes.

There are plenty of non-white spiritually, psychically, intellectually gifted people on this earth. Credo Mutwa has interacted with all types of INDIGENOUS PEOPLES throughout the world. He is highly esteemed by DAVID ICKE who is GRAY-SILVER-HAIRED & BLUE-EYED.

Go take a look at this thread:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5517&highlight=blue+alien

take care.

zorgon
10-18-2008, 08:37 PM
What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

That seems to be exactly the opposite of saying the "blond/redhead-breed" is easiest to subject to mind control... in your scenario they would be the contollers not the controllees.

Unless he means that by the "blond/redhead-breed" accepting the 'job' of oppressor, that means naturally they 'must' be under mind control... because it's unthinkable that anyone would choose such a path of their own free will...

At least... THAT is what I see...'between the lines' :wink2:

PodWORLD
10-18-2008, 08:54 PM
Forgive me if I'm being too scientific but the world centres of conspiracy theory are California and Nevada so lot's of blondes and aeroplane blondes.

There are also many more blondes now that when I was a lad. Is is Aryanism? Fascism? (tremble) The Nazis? No it's hair dye which is great for covering up grey hair.

I have brown hair and blue eyes being of irish and scottish descent and I've no plans to take over the world nor do I feel that my mind is controlled.

Jenny
10-18-2008, 08:58 PM
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Chinderland
10-19-2008, 02:07 PM
What clarkkent really is saying here , between the written lines , is that the Illuminati and the oppressors of this world mainly do there recruiting from the "blond/redhead-breed" and that the "blond/redheads" are the dictators over the other races.

As I understand it, clark was asking why blond/redhead people were overrepresented in contactees/abductees/ufology, based on his observation.

If clark's observation is correct, this thread raises a valid research question for all of us interested in the subjects of ufology, illuminati, and mind control.

I am not experienced in these subjects. I was wondering if someone with in-depth knowledge could re-count the number of blond/redhead ppl from widely-known contactee/abductees? If there are indeed dispropotionally more blond/redhead in this group, it maybe a very important lead to disclose the alien and/or illuminati agenda.

I am Chinese and I have yet to see some Asian abductees or contactees interviewed for their experiences. How about some Indians and Japanese, too? :mfr_lol:

I mean we have quite big populations out there. Why not some of us?? At least give me some Asian American contactees, if the off-world beings prefer to abduct ppl in USA. :roftl:

Peace.

clarkkent
10-19-2008, 06:57 PM
clarkkent, whats your genetics then, how do you look, under what category do you fall "good and strong" ore "bad and easy-manipulated", it would be very interesting to know.

jeez folks

"going to fast" why are you getting so offended? your really not reading my posts, your skimming them and having a knee jerk reaction. please READ my posts...i dont know how you could interpret it as me slandering blondes or saying everyone of them is mind controlled.

i shouldnt have to re iterate this but clearly my intention is being wrongly received again ill copy and paste what ive already stated

"
well my intent with this thread was to try and figure out (if any) reasons there could be to the preponderance of blondes on both sides of the fringe circles

ufology/new age vs illuminati/nazi

and what if anything links them together somehow."


is that understood? im not saying EVERY mind contolled victim is blonde or redheaded, nor am i saying EVERY contactee or EVERY spiritual leader is blonde blue eyed. clearly that is not that case (and i never implied such)
credo mutwa and david icke are great but dont have anything to do with my observation.

let me also state that our elected officials ARENT all blonde and blue eyed, nor was hitler or mengele.

for everyone who is confused about what is written "between the lines" or the intent of my post, just read the first one again, i dont know how much more clear i can be.

as far as my race/nationality/ethnicity-its all on my profile page as is my full name and age. do some digging eh?

Opal
10-19-2008, 11:11 PM
im trying to figure out why so many prominent figures in the fringe world both good (UFOlogy, metaphysical, spiritual,intuitives etc ) and bad ( illuminati,nazi,nordic ET's) as well as MK ultra victims, are mostly blondes/redheads with blue eyes, green eyes. im making this post because im trying to figure it out myself. i certainly dont believe all blondes and red heads are mind controlled, but it may be that something in their DNA allows them more sensitivity to the paranormal (hence all the inutiutives) as well as susceptibility to mind control.

when you look into it there really is a lack of asian, mediterreanean, native american, african etc.

heres an exceprt from a stuart swerdlow interview , he participated in the montauk experiment (mind control, genetic experimentation, time travel etc)

Earth has 6.3 Billion people, and the US has 280 Million.
1‐2% of the global population has specific Mind Control. 63‐126 Million People.
4‐5% of the US population has specific Mind Control. 12‐14 Million People.

Certain characteristics are better for different mind control. Most mind control is time
based. The characteristics they look for most for mind control are Blond Hair, Blue or
Green Eyed, people. Whether recessive or dominated gene It doesn’t matter. High IQ
people w/specific talents are also sought after.
Indigo is a code word for talented children to target.
The survey’s you have to take in school, and prior to getting a job are used to
categorize what your abilities are and what job you should do.*Eventually they want to
make it so everyone takes the test and the job it says is the job you do for life.

The*Illuminati members are 100% Mind Controlled. The Committee of 300 is also
100% Mind Controlled.
Some groups of people are very difficult to mind control, this is one reason Africa, and
blacks in general are targeted. Native Americans are also difficult to mind control.




Hi CK,

You certain HAVE brought up an interesting thought/thread!

I know that many have looked into this too, but no-one REALLY has come up with more than what most of us has read.

I am a Red-Head, Green eyed with Aryan/Celt hereditary, so as you can see, why I find your question/thread of interest, as I too have often pondered this very thing.

Are these types of humans more/or less easily controlled? I dont know, sometimes it seems they are and others it seems they arent.

I think it may all boil down to how Emotional you are, as when you manipulate people's emotions many barriers can be brought down.

What do you think/feel on that Clark?

Cheers
Opal

GoingToFast
10-19-2008, 11:57 PM
clarkkent , as you might have understood by now Iīm a red-head with green eyes, and as almost all red-heads Iīm hot-tempered. I might have misunderstood your intentions with this post, I hope your intentions are good. I as many other red-heads have some psychic abilities, I do not have any control over them and I have never tried to developed them and I don't think I ever Will, believe it or not but I also have ET-experiences, this I will not go into.
clarkkent, I am not here to pick a fight but I hope you can understand my point of view when someone is implying that I am a part of the "master-race" that is the oppressors of the humankind, I hope you believe me when I say that I do NOT want to be part of any master-race only the HUMAN-RACE.
Peace Superman.

Antonia
10-20-2008, 12:03 AM
Clark my friend..many of the women you showed photo's off as examples of blond haired mind control canditits are bottle-blondes....which means as they say the pillows don't match the curtains...if you get my drift.... I think the reptillian Rh/neg blood is the one that is prone to vibrate to reptillian vibrations... I am rh neg blood and I come from one of those so called "Sacred Blood line" families....my branch of the familly embraced the light a long time ago and work with the Great White Brotherhood or White Eagle Lodge.... I am dark haired yet have very sensitive phsycic abilities... I feel emotions all most too strongly for my own good and want to empathise with everyone and every thing....I feel a fascination with Orion and the reptillian agenda...I'm very drawn to it in a way that I want to find out the absolute truth and yet I have a deep respect for the Draco's as well as a abhorance of what they and their co-conspiritors are doing on this planet and I know there are some very highly evolved reptilian beings as well as the dark missguided ones....I have a tendancy to be oseseve and compulsive about things but have learnt to controle this reptillion trait. I have an amaizing spirit guide who is a female reptilian entity who is ancient and wise and full of love and incredibly noble with high vibrational cosmic love and good intent... She has filled me with the most incredible cosmic information and allways points out the high road when I'm sometimes prone to travel the low road, she keeps me in tune with the entity who is our planet, other people, and different dimentional enetities... She says she is part of an ancient reptillian mother dragon cult that had to practice in secret , due to male energy suppressing the female on Orion aons ago... She gathers knowlledge through connecting with my emotions. She never tells me what to do she always comes at questions I ask her in a pragmatic way so that I will have to use my own inteligence and intuition to arive at the conclusion...if it's wrong I get a kind of "Have you thought about it this way??" Kind of thing.

Any way what I'm trying to say is do you think I am being mind controlled?? She is very un intrusive and she led me to this forum... I feel completely convinced she is a very high vibration. When I first felt the connection I was skeptical as she never hid the fact she was reptillan?? I thought this is manipulation posing as good. But she just gave me love and said "fair enough if you feel that is so I will not intrude...send me word from you're heart when you are ready ...I'm always here if you need me!" and later another phsycic tuned in to her for me and also felt her as wise and loving... so I connected and am very happy that I did...

She says the blond blue eyed thing is that some blondes were descended from a renegade Nordic gang who teamed up with dark draco's... and that they are seen as easier to connect with by their own people as well as the draco gene's that were interbred in to them.. they are also seen as a preferable food supply... Just like many humans have no problem loving a pet horse or dog yet eating a lamb or a cow.... We humans are capable of being very hypacritical. We cause tremedous unessecery suffering in the animal world as well as to each other and all in the name of greed and we sell our brothers and sisters out in a way that reptillians would never do...They have an unfair autocratic cast system thats true but they are very duty bound and are loyal to one another. They see human disloyalty to each other as a huge defect and an easy point to step in and manipulte...remeber at these Lucifarian illumanati rituals... it's human beaings doing the sacrificing... humans have free will and mind controle is mostly bad advice believed to be ones own thoughts , The secret military black ops people are doing most of the mind controle now any way... My reptillian guide is very adverse to all this sort of malarki..she say's have you seen the Bohemian Grove vidoe's even the music is tacky and bad??? just thought I'd share this experiance with you ... peace and love. my friend..:lightsabre: Antonia

clarkkent
10-20-2008, 12:20 AM
I hope you can understand my point of view when someone is implying that I am a part of the "master-race" that is the oppressors of the humankind, I hope you believe me when I say that I do NOT want to be part of any master-race only the HUMAN-RACE.
Peace Superman.


again i never implied that anyone race is a "master' one, im simply trying to figure out the common denominator between the fringe/ufology/inuitive/contactee field and why there are so many in the forefront of this field.

also "
"Any way what I'm trying to say is do you think I am being mind controlled?? ------no again people im not saying every blonde is mind controlled--ive said this repeatedly.

as well as the "nordic blonde" "good" ET's and whatever connection to atlantis, the nazi's and MK ultra and why blondes/redheads seem to be the first choice in brainwashing (theres speculation that maddona,brittany,kylie minogue,marlyn monroe, lindsay lohan are all victims of "monarch" programming)

again dont get me wrong this is an observation, clealry there are many many strong willed for lack of a better word "good guy" blondes.

im kind of repeating myself.

GoingToFast
10-20-2008, 12:47 AM
(theres speculation that maddona,brittany,kylie minogue,marlyn monroe, lindsay lohan are all victims of "monarch" programming)

This I find very intriguing especially in light of Madonna's obsession with the Kabbalah, and Marlyn Monroe's death which I believe was a murder and also here connection to Kennedy and the mafia.Do you have some more info on this ore a link.
(I bet that Zorgon has a ton of info on Marlyn)

clarkkent
10-20-2008, 12:58 AM
This I find very intriguing especially in light of Madonna's obsession with the Kabbalah, and Marlyn Monroe's death which I believe was a murder and also here connection to Kennedy and the mafia.Do you have some more info on this ore a link.

yup


http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/search?q=madonna


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-891321698051955222&ei=Dtf7SNHjMoqCrQLvi7DnAg&q=freeman+mind+control

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2008/09/illumimusic-kylie-minogue.html

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula12chap.shtml

http://thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com/2007/02/httpwww2bloggercomimggllinkgifanna.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1243402004150073691

-k

clarkkent
10-20-2008, 04:00 AM
Are these types of humans more/or less easily controlled? I dont know, sometimes it seems they are and others it seems they arent.

I think it may all boil down to how Emotional you are, as when you manipulate people's emotions many barriers can be brought down.

What do you think/feel on that Clark?

Cheers
Opal

i honestly dont know, it seems their are plenty of strong willed spiritual blondes/red heads, swerdlow might know more about the genetics of the situation, but just because a genetic code is more "open" to control doesnt really explain it all. and certainly there are examples of mass brainwashing for example the bulk of the hip hop comunity worships "bling" and superficiality
and yes that means a lot of african americans and other ethnicities.

anyhow thats what i think, this is still very much a mystery.

GoingToFast
10-20-2008, 05:43 PM
clarkkent, I have been watching the documentary "Stewart Swerdlow - History of Mind Control" that you gave me a link to, and now I have a much better understanding of what you are talking about. It is a very interesting subject.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1243402004150073691

clarkkent
10-20-2008, 11:19 PM
She says the blond blue eyed thing is that some blondes were descended from a renegade Nordic gang who teamed up with dark draco's... and that they are seen as easier to connect with by their own people as well as the draco gene's that were interbred in to them.. they are also seen as a preferable food supply... Just like many humans have no problem loving a pet horse or dog yet eating a lamb or a cow....



i find this interesting because this is basically what stuart swerdlow and alex collier state as well...thanks for your input :)

nirvanapirate
10-24-2008, 03:44 AM
Very good post. I myself am blonde hair. Whether I think it is because I am an alien/hybrid/ chose to manifest here.. we'll leave that to debate.
I have one more for blonds that are psychic, my mother..
And my spiritual teacher is a brunette.

Anticomuna
10-27-2008, 01:41 AM
Clark Kent made a good question. It's very strange that the people involved with these kind of topics are blondes talking about alien blondes or bloodline obssessed conspirators. Come on, now everybody is descendent of some frigging royalty! And there's Alex Collier and the likes who insist on this "bloodline" royalty nonsense.

It's rather strange this insistence in certain characteristics, not only about the contactees/abductees themselves, but also from the supposed "aliens".

David
10-27-2008, 04:49 PM
Very interesting topic.

spiritual_wanderer
10-28-2008, 01:02 AM
This IS a very interesting topic. I think it boils down to blood type personally. The rh negative blood type appears to have some interest for the reptilian/Illuminati types. According to David Icke, it's the blood that enables the reptilians to hold human form. Arizona Wilder says in her interview with Icke that certain people are able to control the reptiles that come through in the Satanic rituals she was forced (through mind control) to perform.

QueenOfLeon
10-28-2008, 03:40 PM
I didnt know Marilyn was a montauk victim!! I figured she was an illuminati pawn cos of her connections to the U.S government but I have never stumbled across that. It m akes complete sense!! Ive done a google search and cant really find any info on it! has anyone got any links on this please?

thanks x

dataeast
10-28-2008, 06:46 PM
well my intent with this thread was to try and figure out (if any) reasons there could be to the preponderance of blondes on both sides of the fringe circles

ufology/new age vs illuminati/nazi

and what if anything links them together somehow.

It was the Christians that believed that redheads (with green eyes) were witches, so I think it's this myth that has been rekindled into a modern analogue, substitute aliens and summoning "demons." Modern culture still has a genetic memory of this rightly or wrongly and still practices a form of genetic racism based on this. Modernism still has not excorcised racism from it's roots, it's still evident in the most "civilized" nations.

I think that you need to investigate secret societies such as the Thule society. There is an idea called "The Great White Brotherhood" (or something similar) from another society called the Golden Dawn, which is the same as the "Aryan" (one lead by the light) idea of the Thule Society. IIRC, Hitler and Himmler (and cronies) who were initiates of Thule believed that this was a race of people and were the ancestors of the Germanic peoples. Of course they were mistaken however it did not stop them from sending exploration teams as far as Tibet to enlist the Tibetan monks who shared a similar, although in metaphor, view of theology. The quests were based on the distorted view of that definition. They believed this subterranean race might be in Central Asia.

The Thule society also happily took opportunity in the money that Hitler was willing to invest in technology to win the war, just as the industrialists in Germany did too. Despite the image of evil that Hitler represents, his personal fallibility was used by these parties to serve their ends too. Hitler was used as well.

The New Age is not a recent idea either. This is a symbolic reference to a metaphysical idea. The core of this knowledge can be found in the "secret" societies. There is an analogue in all religions. It's a complex idea which is represented both on the personal and trans-personal realm and has lead to many arguments as to which definition is correct, but arguments for both sides are correct because the answer is in all.

A question might be: What is the Old Age? If the New Age is foreign to you it might be that are now living in the Old Age.

There is a link here between the New Age and the "Great White Brotherhood" or Aryan (noble) people. Hitler made a mistake in assuming that they were the ancestors of the Germanic peoples, he was trying to revive Germanic pride, so went to great lengths to find records of Germanic achievements in history. If the Thule society had communicated with entities, as is the normal practice of such societies, then whomever they did contact would be passed through a medium or channel. However the channel presents a problem in themselves, there exists a signal to noise ratio or a disparity between the source and the translator. So there is another noisy link when trying to trace who or what the Aryan race might be, that is assuming that the idea was of an actual race, but as the occult axiom goes, "As Above, So Below"...

In this article, based on the genetic research of a hair from a "Nordic" ET placed the origins of a Asian genotype with Nordic phenotype.
http://www.theozfiles.com/hair.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genotype

The actual paper:
http://www.cufos.org/strange_evidence.pdf

Phenotypes are superficial and only skin deep. The genetic variance can differ, at times, greater within "races" than between them. Perceptions can distort the reality of what is being percieved and can in fact hold greater sway than that which is true. In such a place facts are a rare commodity.

This is interesting because it is consistent with the believed origins of the Aryan "race." That is, in Central Asia, the Gobi desert. Hitler was heavily influenced with "The Coming Race" by Edward Bulwer-Lytton. So in his mind, this was indeed a reality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vril

It may be that what Hitler was lead to believe, before the advent of genetics, that what the channel's saw were "Nordic" features: blonde hair and blue eyes. This in turn leading into the crude and almost ludicrous skull measuring practice in ascertaining "Aryan-ness." This was also conducted in Tibet by the Nazi's with the Tibetans.

On an off note, in genetics there is no such thing as a "white" race, it's a myth perpetuated to serve a particular end like with the Neo-Nazi's. It's an insecurity which leads to wishful thinking on the part of those who think that their genetic heritage is somehow superior and thus blinds them to the atrocities inflicted upon others who according to that viewpoint are inferior and thus deserving of any ill treatment. It's a simplistic and flawed idea where karma only flows one way, the mathematics of which are one equals zero. Hitler truly believed that what he was doing was justified, history shows us that he was wrong.

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It could be that the ET intervention is aimed at those who are to serve a purpose in their respective societies. Societies that are perhaps at a pivot point where the changes they make impact globally on the life and well being of others. So, an agenda might be to create an influence in the problematic countries, and very vocal ones. It would serve no purpose to influence a pygmie in Papua New Guinea because his life may indeed be more sympathetic to the earth and his voice would not be taken seriously in one New York minute. Of course, this is supposing that there is demographic evidence that such superficial traits are qualified. It is very possible that the medium that has constructed the dataset itself may be the reason why.

K626
11-25-2008, 08:42 PM
...from what I know superficial racial markers aren't important (hair, eyes etc). There is some weighting in favour of only children however who tend to (in loose general terms) be aware of their 'otherness' at a very early age.

davefla73
11-25-2008, 08:47 PM
and HOW many are real blonds? LOL ! look close most of the woman died there hair, blond....:original:

K626
11-25-2008, 08:51 PM
and HOW many are real blonds? LOL ! look close most of the woman died there hair, blond....:original:

Quite so. :original: