Do we have grounds to sue banks and government for the mess we are in?

[Mark]

Do we , as a human race, have grounds to sue banks and governments for the mess we are in, for lying to us and for the agenda they are now forcing upon on us. Can we get a restraint order on them? I'm not a person very knowledgeable about such things, but what they are doing is criminal.

In my dream last night I was in Houses of Parliment telling the ministers there that I was going to sue them for the mess we are in. One of the ministers, who was some sort of legal bod, said, do I really want to do this and I said yes, so we started the process of suing the world Governments.

Anyone know if this is possible and how do we go about doing this?

[Tuza]

I would love a couple of million people sue the Government for:

Murder,
Treason,
Conspiracy,
Theft of billions or trillions, etc, etc.

I wonder how far they would get though. Mmmmh.

[Mark]

I love the very idea - anyone out there with the knowledge to start this big ball rolling along?

[sunnyrap]

Ah, a class action suit deluxe. Problem would be determining which lawyers and law firms are not Mason/Illuminati/nwo...

[Mark]

Tha might be a problem but we could alwas fire them if they acted against us - anyway we'd sue the them also...

We can do this, can't we? I know little about such things - need guidence...

[Tuza]

Maybe we could take a world class action out - we will get one of those legal companies that have no win no fee.:original:

[Mark]

LOL - great idea...

[Gale]

Maybe one should take themselves to court first, for getting themselves into such a financial mess, before considering taking the government & banks for letting you get into such a financial mess but then why take anyone to the court in this system of doing things when we know the government to come is a Monarchy :king: not a Demonocracy. :devil:


I checked a few years back, an individual cannot bring a case against a country or their government before the UN on grounds of harm, it has to be a recognized organization.
I sympathize, I really do, the level of harm perpetrated against humanity is shocking, repulsive but rest assured those doing the harm to humanity and the Earth will be dealt with, all in due time.
:giljotiini:

[Tuza]

Just the chemtrails alone Gail, what could they be doing to everyone, including our pets, all animals, plant life, little babies, it just makes me really.............and another thing these pilots flying the planes they obviously know what they are off loading down here, where is their conscience. Criminals all of them.

[crowmirror]

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[THE eXchanger]

it would be a good idea b4 doing this
to create a legal system, that is higher than the current system--since if you lose in the current system
you can NOT appeal it

no matter how strong an inner circle is

there are support systems around those circles

eventually; you get to the point

the masons are a good example of this...
that the outside edge; is NOT all that strong

that the layers around each of them crumble

it's similiar to looking at all the types of churches in the world

when someone get tired of being a
catholic, they might turn anglican
or, if someone is a baptist, then, might become a buddhist etc.,

the outside layers--is forever -- coming/and, going - or even switching camps

it is hard to believe, that, we can NOT stop 9 evil groups

much easier to believe, eventually; they will come to stop themselves

that i predicted, a long time ago, the inner circle turning on itself

love/susan
the eXchanger

[tone3jaguar]

We don't have to take them to court, the universe has a way of balencing itself out.

[sunnyrap]

Subject: Groundbreaking Chemistry Discovery


Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has discovered the heaviest element yet
known to science.

The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant
neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving
it an atomic mass of 312.

These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are
surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be
detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into
contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would
normally take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to
complete.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2- 6 years. It does not decay,
but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the
assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since
each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming
isodopes.

This characteristic of morons promotion leads some scientists to believe
that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical
concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical
morass.

When catalysed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, an
element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium since it has
half as many peons but twice as many morons=20

[Mark]

Yes, the universe does act that way. I love the formula and do apt - thanks both...

[Shellie]

Sue them for what? Money? So other taxpayers and bank members can pay for the money you win in your lawsuit because YOU had to pay taxes?

[Humble Janitor]

Why bother suing anyone at all? You'd just be playing into their hands because they'd have the best lawyers/legal teams in their pockets and ready to sink you.

And why sue for paper money when it's practically worthless?

[Christo888]

Once you get a judgment, collect it, then convert it to whatever form of currency or exchange system in place.

[2+2=5]

How can you sue the very system that created the "courts" and these "laws?"

You can't.

What we need is an entire new way of living, what we are doing now is horrendous.

[THE eXchanger]

2 + 2 + (one) = 5 :mfr_lol:

it iS tYme to activate the change

we, the "one", need to start co-creating a new world

love
susan
the eXchanger
www.the-eXchangers.ning.com

[Mark]

Well, my thoughts were to sue the governments for all their wrong doings, for their lies and their underhand manipulation of 'Us' all, this nwo agenda...

[Ampgod]

Lets not play the victim role.
The NWO exists because you and I let it exist.
No more for me!
I have found my power and they will have no more! :thumb_yello:



Peace,
Ampgod

[Ampgod]

How can you sue the very system that created the "courts" and these "laws?"

You can't.

What we need is an entire new way of living, what we are doing now is horrendous.


Well said! :thumb_yello:
I agree.


Peace,
Ampgod

[Mark]

I wouldn't call it a victim roll, but humans talking back their power...

[Ampgod]

I wouldn't call it a victim roll, but humans talking back their power...


I do speak bluntly sometimes.
Please excuse me.

I just think the change has to come from within us.
That can't happen by spending our precious energy attacking the peripheral parasites. There is tremendous power in numbers.
If we change just ourselves then we effect everyone around us.
If everyone around us changes themselves then they effect everyone around them. This can grow to an enormous number of people. It would force change due to the changes the people made on themselves. Which will ultimately benefit the many.

United we stand, divided we fall. So true.


Peace,
Ampgod

[T.C]

I am nearly 100% convinced that the solution to 'modern' problems - for example the bank bail out - is to turn away from the system that caused it and invent a new, better alternative. Of course it is not a simple thing to do. For starters you need a threshold of people to agree to a new system in order to manifest it. In addition you will have to deal with people bound to the old system. For example if you decided to form your own isolated community and did not pay government taxes, no doubt you would come under scrutiny.

What I have noticed is that many people can observe and describe what is wrong with our society, fewer people can suggest alternatives, and even fewer can suggest HOW to solve those problems.

The friction that occurs when people suggest solutions to problems is invariably describing symptoms and consequences of the system itself and therefore its relevance is limited. Unfortunately it is difficult for people to logically step outside of the boundary's of a system, especially considering the indoctrination that occurs from an earlier age.

When logic and persistence fail in important issues it may be a result of the mass of human psychology preventing the cognitive steps required. For example, the rampant consumerism in the world can easily be refuted however the vast majority of people buy into it (pun intended!) at a fundamental level.

As many people have stated or alluded to, if we stopped contributing to the system it will stop working! Perhaps that is what we need to do individually - by doing things everyday that deny the old monolithic system and encourage a newer, fairer outcome.

:original:

[Steve_A]

Hi Mark,

First of all make a list of the actions that you believe have been committed, find the relevant law that depicts those actions as being a crime and open a process in the civel court.

It's a remarkably simple proceedure, although a little slow.

I know this because I just won a case over here in Brazil against the Brazilian government on Copyright infringement. :)

Best regards,

Steve



I love the very idea - anyone out there with the knowledge to start this big ball rolling along?

[Steve_A]

Hi Gale,

I think that may be true in the criminal justice system, but in the civil system you may...

Best regards,

Steve


Maybe one should take themselves to court first, for getting themselves into such a financial mess, before considering taking the government & banks for letting you get into such a financial mess but then why take anyone to the court in this system of doing things when we know the government to come is a Monarchy :king: not a Demonocracy. :devil:


I checked a few years back, an individual cannot bring a case against a country or their government before the UN on grounds of harm, it has to be a recognized organization.
I sympathize, I really do, the level of harm perpetrated against humanity is shocking, repulsive but rest assured those doing the harm to humanity and the Earth will be dealt with, all in due time.
:giljotiini:

[sunnyrap]

The simplest solutions are the best, and the hardest to execute...you have to starve the wolf (love or anger) you don't want; which is in this case, jerking the support out from under the government of tyrants. The real challenge is supporting a system based entirely on love and honor. You know, money is just an accounting system. Such can be created on pen and paper with no printed bills at all.

[deepblu777]

Hey All

With all the bills chipping away at a citizen's rights, they are also including exemptions for themselves.

The way I understand it now, they're all protected. Even if you file a suit against them, it would probably be thrown out on the grounds that a law aready exists that protects them against prosecution.

I suppose you could file a class action civil suit, but, really...
1. It wouldn't hurt them
2. They wouldn't pay
3. You don't really want money anyway, you want them prosecuted and left impotent in their affect of the world's citizenry

On the up-side, you might get some attention.

For all our justified responses to 'fight' back, 'fighting' is really just more of the same of what we already have.

NON-COMPLIANCE ... there are a s**tload more of us, and peace is the only road to peace. I know I can't do much but I do what I can (I'm this close <> to never paying car insurance again :biggrin2: ). If enough of us who are fed up with 'Planet Hollywood' do the same, they can't function.

That's a lot of minds to turn, but it seems like more and more people are finding it hard to stay asleep/asheep...maybe we're getting there.

Gotta keep trying. They say water communicates faster than light. We're mostly water...keep the love and truth flowing out of you with every opportunity!

[Fredkc]

it would be a good idea b4 doing this
to create a legal system, that is higher than the current system

kinda likwe a NN-NWO? Newer non-new world order. Sorry, couldn't resist.

They've played one game quite well, "Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes the laws."