Scottish Ground Crew

[firstfruit]

I am Rab am in the highlands of Scotland.

So please introduce your self here lets get it going
:welcomeani:

[greybeard]

Not sure if my previous post got posted.
Im Chris (greybeard) and I live in Inverness. Would be good to chat. Not sure how to use this site yet:mfr_lol:

I think it is essential that safe places of illumination are set up. Even if the worst senarios do not hapen it makes sense to form self suficient spiritual comunities on the tribal basis. "The last hours of ancient sunlight" is an excellent book. How many of us could survive a month without Tesco Lol.

[Lochinvar]

"For as long as 100 of us remain alive we will yield in no least way to NWO domination. We fight, not for glory nor for honour or for riches but for freedom which no good man surrenders but with his life.".


A poignant day to join I hope you'll agree. And so a toast....ANDREW de MORAY

[mattmckill]

Hello guys ,my names matt from Girvan nr Ayr,will be back online at 16:00hrs to talk some more!

[Lochinvar]

Will we be able to work better if we know more about each other?

The past

Whitehall (G2)

Army (TA) Infantry

Not a huge amount of info. Quite a different thing writing on a public forum what it is that ones past might entail. Suffice to say that it was part of the awakening process (I have no knowledge of the existence of ET´s).

I have some spare time and some resources. How best to use them is something that I am undecided on.

Dave

[mattmckill]

Hello Greybeard and the rest of the Scottish Ground Crew,

it's good to see there are a few of us here now and it would be a good idea for all of us to keep in touch on line and off. We need to establish good comms within our group and maybe we should list what we can bring as in experience i.e I served 14 years as a Royal Marine Commando and have gainned vast experience in Mountain, Artic, Jungle and Sea survival.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Keep in touch Matt.:lightsabre:

[shaundelear]

Well Hello Scotland!!!

Am in Bathgate.
After getting up to speed on the possibilites how safe do you think we will be?
We are prety far north suffering from northerly winds?
Remember Chernobeyl ? all the livestock?
If the poles shift would we not be within the arctic circle?
If the economy collapses Scots will be at the end of the line.

It is a good idea for us all to talk you never know whats possible.

Thought about staying but if you sat down a wrote a list of what you would need to survive its massive and even if we could get it all in place the chances are that you'll be draughted anyway Westmisters up to its eyeballs in s***.
We know better than anyone "divide and conquer" by the English is gonna bite them in the ass-Ireland-Africa-America-India and Scotland was the first victim.
We really should not have stopped marching on London.
And Alec Salmond is never going to be allowed to give us independance.
Even if he could, in the immediate future?

Scotlands done many great things but while the money from the oil goes down south we would not be able to stand alone.
All these new laws on terrorism you would think they would fix the old ones first.

Are bagpipes still a weapon of war? still technicaly illeagal?

:lightsabre:

Wonder if there are many underground bases in Scotland?
Wonder if the budget stretched this far?

[macleodmunro]

Alright Scotland, i'm Paul in Aberdeen.
Not sure what WE should expect over the next 4 years. Things aren't that clear for us.
As long as George Green's not right or we're all f****d.
We can only hope it doesn't come to that.
I'm personally rooting for David Wilcocks slant on things.
On a lighter note, it's excellent that i've now found others who are taking this subject seriously, as everyone i know thinks i'm nuts.
(typical scots not wanting the inconveniance of something so trivial as the end of the world)

Cheers, be safe

[Vandalis]

Hey there am Jamie and i live in Elgin. : D

Hehe i know most of what going on in the world but not here lol
Maybe somone can dig some stuff up on what happening round here.
Then again this IS Scotland, nothing much does happen!. :P

[JohnDenver: Time]

Just thought I'd say Hi. Good to see I'm not quite the only one in scotland that thinks out the box, amazing the response from most people when you try having even a moderately interesting conversation with them about what is really going on - that look of who is this ****

I fear that there is not nearly enough people even close to getting it, will probably take a rather large catastrophe or change of direction for people to see what the real potential is. Anyways look forward to chatting more.

[Nik]

Edinburgh here. :)

[firstfruit]

Goodness how embarrassed am I. I just sent a privet massage to greybeard about a meet up he said that’s all right with him after all you started the thread I said to my self what thread goodness I have been so busy looking around the site I have not checked this thread in ages I must apologise to all my brothers here I hope you all don’t think I was being ignorant goodness I also must personally apologise to greybeard he must believe and quite rightly so I am transfixes on the gloom and doom. Greybeard told me he has friends and me D******* asked are any from the highlands what a fool there’s heaps of us from Scotland

Please forgive me I am new to this to lol

about my self I am 41 and a half lol I have 3 children Rachael 10 Joshua 8 and kaleb 4 and believe me our not I have one on the way one day to go well my wife has one on the way Jan is dew 18th September. I manage a local community building in the neighbouring village so as you can probably guess I am pretty much grounded.

About my self I wrote earlier

I am so embarrassed please can I add you all as friends :wub2:

[Nik]

and believe me our not I have one on the way one day to go well my wife has one on the way Jan is dew 18th September.

Congratulations! I wish you all the best!

I am so embarrassed please can I add you all as friends :wub2:

Sure! ;)

[PodWORLD]

Hi all I'm Chris from Glenboig which is just outside Glasgow.

I think Scottish members constitute a disproportianately high
percentage of the peeps here which is great.

I find that people all over the world are talking about these
subjects and don't you just 'feel' that something is coming.

Great to meet you all.

[Waterman]

I bet Scotland is beautiful, kind of like what you want home to look like.

[firstfruit]

Bed time for me brother’s speck soon

My Love

:sleep_1:

[Nik]

A bit about me:

Male
22 in October
BA in Psychology, PGDip in Artificial Intelligence
Travelled a lot (15+ countries)
I moved to Edinburgh a year ago

I have some free time and resources to help out in any way that I can.
I also have some experience with energy healing. :)


Currently I am not in the U.K., but should be back (if circumstances permit! :lmao: ) in about a week or 2.

[iainl140285]

Hi Nik, and everyone else!

I'm Iain, 23, live in Dundee.
Been following all this for a while now, I consider myself a normal person ... lol

Just wanted to kno if any of you have tried 'informing' your family/loved ones??

I have no idea how to go about it.

Talk soon. :)

[greybeard]

Hi Ian welcome.
Life has a way of balancing out challenges.
I spent one Christmas on a an ashram in India, my wife of that time was non to pleased, that is understanable as the kids were 8 &11 at the time. She though I had gone crazy.

Even though we are now seperated we are still friends and guess what-- she now follows that guru.

I dont follow any one but find the teachings of Eckhart Tolle and David Hawkins very helpful and uplifting. On this forum Michael St Clare and Henry are the ones that I listen too. They have a balanced point of view. There is a lot of suspect info flying about here on other threds. I find it best to stick to the main purpose as I see it ie setting up Radient Zones.

I have one son at Dundee Uni and another at Aberdeen. The youngest has had spiritual insight as far back as I can remember, I havent had to "teach" him anything he just knows.
The older is spiritual in his actions ie caring and kind but is not interested in the detail stuff. Says he is too young to get into that.

I found it best not to tell people the "scary stuff" but most can see the $ and £ in big trouble so from there its easy to talk about self supporting villages, people can see that makes sense.

Also I used to blieve in the written word, if it was written down it had to be true. There is a lot of stuff here that is interesting exciting scary but not necessarily true.

Hope this helps .

Chris

[iainl140285]

Thank you Chris,

I think your key point that helps is BALANCE - this is the way of the universe is it not.

I have no children, but have been with my girlfriend for 5 years (hopefully will be engaged by xmas!!) I have not revealed all the doom and gloom scenarios expressed on this forum but rather used subtlety. As you mentioned the € and $ has been the trigger for her to come to me and ask advice. lol

A good way to balance many of the threads (suspect threads) on this forum is to listen to your heart. And if all else fails ... Just look out the window. lol

Peace to all :)

Ps. Waterman - COME HOME!

[Nik]

.......is to listen to your heart.

Truth! :D

[Nik]

Anyone up for a meeting within the next 2-3 weeks?

[FR33DOM]

Hi guys, my name is Joe Stirling and I live in Milngavie near Glasgow. I am willing to chat/meet anybody who is focused or wants to be educated to the truth. I/we are all over the Net in our fight to expose the criminal organisation of Freemasonry (the NWO's number one tool). If you don't know about the secret societies, checkout some of my story at www.joestirling.com

I am a founding member of the Anti Corruption Party and we are connected to a lot of good vetted people world wide. You can find a lot of our argument and truth at
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9 (under the name "ban freekmasons"). You can also checkout our sister site at www.ljpr.info

I am also a member of http://www.wholetruthcoalition.org/ and they directed me here to this brilliant Project Avalon forum. So if you want to get in touch, you can PM me or email me at voacs@mac.com or I can give you my contact number if you want to meet or talk.

I/we have much expertise on how the secret societies work. Our ACP is a free support group for victims of the Masons. We are sitting here with mountains of concrete evidence with nowhere to take it. Anyway guys, this is not about me, or ACP. This is about what we can do collectively.

We are well aware that time is running out. Your comments, ideas, suggestions, etc are very welcome. All the best, Joe

[shaundelear]

Anyone up for a meeting within the next 2-3 weeks?
Yes I would be up for a general meeting put faces to names.
What do you propose?

[Nik]

Basically:

- Find a place that is either same distance from most of us or a place that all of us would not mind going
- As you said, put faces to names
- Find out more about what each of us can bring to the table, so to speak
- Maybe discuss possibilities for 'safe places' / radiant zones in Scotland

and of course anything else that may pop up (it always does! :) )

The issue now is just to pick a place and date convenient to all! Any suggestions? :naughty:

[THE eXchanger]

greeting scottish ground crew :welcomeani:

i am susan (from canada)

i have some scottish blood ;)
and, thought i'd say hi !!!

my g/g/g/g/great grandfather was an explorer
from scotland (and, came to canada)

good to see, all of you gathering ;)

love
susan
the eXchanger

[Wildfire]

Just to say i think your ground crew will expand very quickly, since most are all going to be moving to your mountain ranges lol
I am moving to europe but thought i would give you the head up :))

[Lochinvar]

What do you think is coming Wildfire? Poleshift; rising sea levels; something else? You say on another thread that you want to be above 11,000 ft and that you are moving to Europe? So Alps or Caucuses?

Good luck for all eventualities.

[Wildfire]

Well i have always been a little unique and i had an experience that explained to me that if i wanted to live through the coming earth changes i had to make sure i was 11,000feet up. Now, i sat on this information and told not a sausage for three years as i was told i had to go by 2011. I was given alot of interesting info. Well, i stumbled upon lightseeds and thought oh my god, the information i recieved three years ago tally;s with St Clairs. So i have decided i am not a raving lunatic ha ha as a psychic will 23 years experience and to say i am usually correct is fact not arrogance as i have worked with the British Police force as a medium/psychic. so hey if they believe me ha ha i might just know what i am talking about:))
Also i really want to leave london so will go find a mountain somewhere next year. I wrote a book called wildfire about this it will be ready next week. Tells you all about my experience. Also how to access your own future;)

[Lochinvar]

I reckon Perth would be the easiest place to meet. In a pub.

Anyone up for online chat before then?

[greybeard]

Hi Guys
Having listened to George Green latest at Camelot and other recent stuff.
my feeling is that we dont want to be pushed forwrd by fear but to lookforward positivly.
Michael St Clare has said Radiant Zones founded on fear wont work and I agree with that. I like to keep it simple in that its up to us to do our part in setting up what we as a group want to set up - networking with other like minded groups.
The primary purpose is to set up a Radient zone to my thinking -- most of the rest is a distraction, it may or may not happen.
We should meet some where soon. Perth has been mentioned and that sems a good idea.
I think it would be good idea if we hired a small room in an hotel a that way we can talk freely as it is kinda private buisness time being.
Rab and I talked the other night and he has positive ideas, as im sure we all have.

Regards Chris

[greybeard]

Hi all
this is by Michael St Clare
well worth a read. I go with what he has written.
Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=26169&posted=1#post26169

[SHAMANKA]

Scotland, west coast Argyll, if anything nuclear happened we would be a target here, enough said. I am planning on digging and planting food for next year and have no idea if that is the right thing to do, but as I have the space...
I dont want to live in fear about what ifs and maybes either. I joined this in order to make conatct and take practical measures, I would welcome any advice, insights help and will do my best to help if I can in this area of the country. It is not possible for me too move I am a carer ( of my elderly mother)full time so..
I believe in being a co creator and focusing on the postive as much as possible, I use Reiki and work with intention and with various alternatives and philosophies- but both my parents came through the second world war, so I have insights to the current dynamics, they seem all too familiar- so I have very mixed feelings about the current situation.
that said, there is still time and its great to see consciousness shifting and awareness growing...and so many canny scots here!

[Angel of the Mists]

Hello folks

I'm in a little village just west of Glasgow, although I travel all over Scotland and parts of England and Wales, so I'm not at home very much.....but I agree it would be good to meet up. Good to see you all here and I agree with Shamanka....'its great to see consciousness shifting and awareness growing'.
And also Chris's observation: 'my feeling is that we dont want to be pushed forward by fear but to look forward positivly.'

Angel :)

[greybeard]

Welcome "aboard" to our new friends.
Its great to see that positive well balanced people are joining this thred.
All that is needed is to keep it as simple as we can. Just keeping focused on the priorities.
Regards to all
Chris

[firstfruit]

Hi all my brothers and sisters.

sorry but I have a new baby so I am not on as much as I would like but that’s not to say things are not in motion.

I was hoping to get the interest of you all behind a bit of land I’m trying to procure in the east of Scotland rogart to be precise. A figure of £3000 has been mentioned for 1 acre of land, but no doubt we would have legal costs and plus costs to get it up and running like equipment, a communal caravan of sorts, but funds are a major problem for everyone, but the more of us who are interested in this, the cheaper it will be for all of us. Anyway this is just a wee note to let you know that this is possible and in motion, I speak again to the farmer either next Tuesday or Friday, so will have more information, if he is willing to sell us an acre. I have told him that we do not wish to build a house on it, well as in building I said we might want to build an earth house and to try desperately to sustain ourselves off the land, I have also told him there will be a few people doing this together.

I would be very interested to hear how many, if any of us Scottish ground crew would be interested in such a venture and any ideas, how we can get the necessary funds.

Help us to help our self’s for our highest and best good for all concerned

My love

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

im from england. well actually no fixed abode :) i wasthinking of heading to scotland anyway if it goes nutso.. there is also an interesting thread about a free eco village provided by the norway government.. for free.. it seems as tho up to 3000!!! could live there. im not to enamoured by the idea of such a large group tho but sounds interesting.

[firstfruit]

hi there

where in scotland my friend to be honest i would stay away from any govenment facility.

[greybeard]

Great news Rab.
Chris

[firstfruit]

Great news Rab.
Chris


Hi there Chris if it’s meant to be it will be

[mattmckill]

Hi Rab,

Congratulations on your new born (many sleepless nights having two young boys myself, all fun and games) Fantastic idea about starting a radaint zone and I agree that finding money is not always that easy but where there is a will there is way---Smiling. I was looking at the Hobit house that was on this site but can't remember where! Being in the building trade myself they look easy to erect and substain. Looking forward to hearing more.

Matt

[Lochinvar]

Hi Rab,

I was looking at the Hobit house that was on this site but can't remember where!

Matt

http://www.simondale.net/house/

[Nik]

Hi Rab,

In terms of funds, you are right - if it is meant to be, and our wills are strong and 'pure' enough, it will happen fluidly! :original:

When are you thinking of getting this really moving - the purchase, land plans, etc?


And welcome to all the newly-joined members on this thread! :welcomeani:

[greybeard]

Hi everyone.
Id rather be happy than right:mfr_lol:

There is a lot of negativity flying about the main forums, the info may be so and im sure that the people believe what they post. Its possible to find evidence for any belief that we hold dear and if a lot of time has been invested in reserching & proving a point then its very hard to be open minded about other possabilities.

There is the possability that we are about to witness the bigest step forward in the evolution of the human race since we became mamals. I can find evidence of this ofcourse:mfr_lol:

Eckhart Tolle spoke of this when he was in London. There is no problem at this exact moment in time, (the eternal Now the only moment that ever is)

Challenges may arrive in the moment but thats life.

So if we are co-creators we can shape our future. The world of negativity / fear is not our world unless we choose it.

Not wishing to be on a soap box but it seems important to keep a good attitude.

With Love
Chris

[upjock36]

hello fellow scots.

it's good to see that there are other folks awake.

in reply to an previous posting, it is difficult to approch the subject with loved ones..but with the s##t hit hitting the fan as far as economics go,it could be the best time to drop some info their way..not too much mind you, the last thing you want is them to think that you've all went to wack !!

i'll pop in from time-2-time & good meeting like minded people.

bye 4 now upjock36

[shaundelear]

[quote=Lochinvar;25529]I reckon Perth would be the easiest place to meet. In a pub.


Perth sounds central to everone .No pubs unless it has a function room.
And a Sunday would be better for travelling.
So how many are up for it?
The more the merier but if its only a few then we need a new plan.
Date wise how about the 19th of October?

[firstfruit]

[quote=Lochinvar;25529]I reckon Perth would be the easiest place to meet. In a pub.


Perth sounds central to everone .No pubs unless it has a function room.
And a Sunday would be better for travelling.
So how many are up for it?
The more the merier but if its only a few then we need a new plan.
Date wise how about the 19th of October?



Hi all

Count me in Shaun

I would love to meet up in Perth any brothers or sisters from the highlands that want to meet up in Inverness to go to Perth on the 19th I would be more than willing to offer my zafira 7 seater and plus it would cut fuel costs if we all pitch in.

Anyone interested well lets do it

Aint that hobbit cottage just the ticket I was showing it to my partner we would have no problems building and living there.

Just an update I am hoping to again speak to my acquaintance Tuesday if he agrees well all I can say to him is I will get it rolling.

I must apologise I only mention Scottish ground crew in my first post about this, I am sorry, anyone that can help us obtain our goal can join us “anyone.”

Also all are welcome to view the land before we make it happen, when it happens

My love

[mattmckill]

Hi to everyone,

Count me in for the 19th October.

Take care Matt.:lightsabre:

[greybeard]

[QUOTE=firstfruit;27834][QUOTE=shaundelear;27562]



Hi all

Count me in Shaun

I would love to meet up in Perth any brothers or sisters from the highlands that want to meet up in Inverness to go to Perth on the 19th I would be more than willing to offer my zafira 7 seater and plus it would cut fuel costs if we all pitch in.


Hi Rab et all.
Im for it. :thumb_yello:
Will be happy to go with you.
Perhaps somone who knows Perth could book/ sugest a facility that we could use.
Love Chris

[SHAMANKA]

Hello everyone hop e you are all doing well, sounds like some of you are having sleepless nights, things are really moving on here talking of land and building a place already, I am not able to move yet, my hope is that things will unfold slowly and I will be able to get a clearer picture for myself what to do. I just watched the Miriam Delcado interview, which was fascinating, especially what she said about seeds and planting and indigenous wisdom. Still processing what she said and comparing her to other contactees, dont want to over analyse it at this stage.
I am still struggling with the idea of safe places and radiant zones, its ounds too survivalist to me at this stage..
The rest of my siblings are in NZ so I am really torn these days about where to go and to make things worse I have residency there..but cant leave here. So the way i look at it is that I chose to do what I am doing ( staying here making big changes in my life etc) for all sorts of reasons that are only now becoming clear to me ( this is my personal journey but I also thing something "collective" could happen in this area if things get bad) As regards telling people, my advice is be careful and use a way in that reveals and shows the person, in such a way that they will have an aha moment, for eg I sent my brother the zetgiest link because I knew he would hook into the 9/11 stuff on that as well as other things, alien stuff is always a tricky one of course.
Also I wonder about Scotland's *energies* and what goes on here and has gone on here in the past given our ancient standing stones, ( Callanish on Lewis older than stone henge) Findhorn though it has gone way to far into cosmic twinkyville lately from what I hear..and also the fact that we have the largest Tibetan Bhuddist Monastery in Europe, Sorry rambling on here its late. Wish I could come to the meeting but I doubt if I will be able to..take care

[shaundelear]

[quote=shaundelear;27562]



Hi all

Count me in Shaun

I would love to meet up in Perth any brothers or sisters from the highlands that want to meet up in Inverness to go to Perth on the 19th I would be more than willing to offer my zafira 7 seater and plus it would cut fuel costs if we all pitch in.

Anyone interested well lets do it

Aint that hobbit cottage just the ticket I was showing it to my partner we would have no problems building and living there.

Just an update I am hoping to again speak to my acquaintance Tuesday if he agrees well all I can say to him is I will get it rolling.

I must apologise I only mention Scottish ground crew in my first post about this, I am sorry, anyone that can help us obtain our goal can join us “anyone.”

Also all are welcome to view the land before we make it happen, when it happens

My love
Anyone.. agreed but no children they dont need to know.yet.
If we dont have more than ten people then I am voluntering to host the gathering in the central belt I am 40 minutes from Perth.Bathgate.
A seed grows, and in the mind as we feel bad when trying to relate/communicate to people who are close, the positive re-inforcement from sharing views will make us all more confident in future discussions with friends and family.
This should I believe be our initial goal- strength in unity.
I work in sales and the technical term would be to "sufficeintly disturb" people into opening their minds-very tricky if you don't want to go too far and terrify(Greybeard I hear you)and your probably right, but the more souls that awaken the better a job we have done.
It's the "blue pill"or the "red pill" right? no shades of grey.wrong.
If we could help people ease into the grey/deep end -then job well done, because all we need to do is point them at the end of the tunnel-
any light and they will start to "run" themselves.
Lets show the way

The difference between geniuos and ..?
Awareness.

Best Einstein revalation -"energy cannot be destroyed - only transformed."
This changed all for me -we need to find other peoples "hotspots" to allow them to begin on the path.

I would preffer a bigger group in Perth but can also see the advantage of an initial smaller group - more time to "air" ,and I know I am not alone in my desire to have contact with like minded folks.
So we need a cut off date for the plan :5th October I would suggest , so regardless hotel / someones house ? its number dependent and we need time to organise.

My offer stands to all . Please respond either way just dont let us down.
Do or do not , don't try , do.

Speak up Scotland's truth seakers - come forth - consider others perspectives and evolve ;this is the future and our FREEDOM lets not make an **** of this.

[greybeard]

Hi Shaun et all.
Agree with you.

I was in sales myself some years back. Its softly soflty catchee monkey. Your not selling -- just helping people to get what they want.
We all want peace in our lives.

I find it easiest to start with the weather --- its changing-- people will agree --
water is rising -- most will agree-- best to be a bit further from the sea just in case, ( insurance companies not keen to insure sea side homes)-- Higher ground best, safer -- most will agree. A self suficient life style would be a good thing-- most would agree. No fear just attraction -- all positive.
No need to mention spiritual -- aliens-- conspiracy. If they know about this stuff it will come out.

Their are lots of people waking up jut now. Many are into Angels and are channeling messages from Archangels or Jesus. Study groups like the Course in Miracles, one that I go to In Findhorn abound.

Millions read spiritual books by enlightened people, there is a big difference between enlightened and awake. A mass awakening is happening because the Totality --God/Creator wants this to happen.

The opportunity for full enlightenment is 1000 times greater than at any time in the past. Each soul that makes it through the narrow gate -- the eye of the needle-- makes it easier for the rest and so it goes on.

As you grow spiritually you radiate energy (auric--field expands) this lifts people whom you will never even meet. You are allready a radient zone. Its just that more together will strengthen -- power up-- the energy radiating. This changes the conscious level of others, they wake up from the inside out we are an unseen catyalist.


If I talk about the path of enlightenment in great depth it might get scary so I wont --- only joking. :mfr_lol:
Regards Chris

[SHAMANKA]

Hi Shaun et all.
Agree with you.

I was in sales myself some years back. Its softly soflty catchee monkey. Your not selling -- just helping people to get what they want.
We all want peace in our lives.

I find it easiest to start with the weather --- its changing-- people will agree --
water is rising -- most will agree-- best to be a bit further from the sea just in case, ( insurance companies not keen to insure sea side homes)-- Higher ground best, safer -- most will agree. A self suficient life style would be a good thing-- most would agree. No fear just attraction -- all positive.
No need to mention spiritual -- aliens-- conspiracy. If they know about this stuff it will come out.

Their are lots of people waking up jut now. Many are into Angels and are channeling messages from Archangels or Jesus. Study groups like the Course in Miracles, one that I go to In Findhorn abound.

Millions read spiritual books by enlightened people, there is a big difference between enlightened and awake. A mass awakening is happening because the Totality --God/Creator wants this to happen.

The opportunity for full enlightenment is 1000 times greater than at any time in the past. Each soul that makes it through the narrow gate -- the eye of the needle-- makes it easier for the rest and so it goes on.

As you grow spiritually you radiate energy (auric--field expands) this lifts people whom you will never even meet. You are allready a radient zone. Its just that more together will strengthen -- power up-- the energy radiating. This changes the conscious level of others, they wake up from the inside out we are an unseen catyalist.


If I talk about the path of enlightenment in great depth it might get scary so I wont --- only joking. :mfr_lol:
Regards Chris

Wise words Greybeard, I agree with you as I am sure the others will. Would someone be kind enough and take the time to transcribe what happens at the meeting for folk like me who cant make it?

As regards being there, I will be in spirit and available on chat here as well.
I live by the sea so there are some gloomy boxes being ticked, but so much conflicting info about so many aspects to all this.

I remain strong and positive, I have to be but I also feel *supported* if that makes sense, been 0on this path for a while and it now makes sense to me why certain areas of reading/learning have come my way.

I firmly believe we influence our reality and our world- and making responsible wise choices, even small ones, makes a difference. I agree with what has been said on this thread and there are some inspiring energies here that have suprised me, its good to see the spiritual warrior ethos and pragmatism playing its part. It will be an interesting meeting I am sure.



I am still learning how to use this forum,so forgive me if I am not in sync with where people are *at* here, I have to work at odd times of the day.
Love to all.
I am trying to gradually add the crew here on my friends list :sweatdrop:

[Sol Invictus]

First ever post on the boards, but i hope I can make it count.:thumb_yello:

I am in Inverness as many of you here on the board, and I feel that its time I came out from the shadows and started 'adding' my voice to help others.

My abilities? well, I am organised, can fish hunt and snare like a poacher, and am good with my hands - have a multitude of 'survival' tips and tricks stashed away in my brain to boot.

Why am I here? a splinter in my soul thats telling me 'all is not right' with the world and the way we are heading toward 2011.

I truely believe in some things coming down the 'pipeline' that are going to be deeply unpleasent for us all unless we are organised and very well prepared but also more importantly hidden.

Yes I do mean hidden, and here is why.

Those who 'dissent' will be the target of those who want to 'keep order'.

Think back to the disgraceful way the Police treated those who gathered under the 'new age traveller' banner. Multiply that by a thousand and you will have how I fear they will treat all 'off grid' people.

I'll be on this forum a while getting to know folks and their methods a bit, but would love to sit down and have a chin wag with other like minded folks.

[greybeard]

Welcome Sol
Your skills are very valuable. I wouldent suvive a week without Morrisons smiling.
Regards Chris

[Sol Invictus]

Thanks Grey,
although I have to say it is because a few years ago I started to get a nagging feeling that all was not right in the world and that sooner rather than later we may have to fall back on old fashioned 'living off the land'.

I am very interested in meeting up and having a chat about peoples ideas and thoughts as time is shortening and events every day seem to be pushing mankind down a one way street that few realise ends pretty soon.

Not being dramatic, just being pragmatic and observant of the people who lead us and how they are all scurrying around making preperations for some event they have yet to tell us about.

[greybeard]

Hi. This is worth a look and a smile.
Chris


http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2703

[Muzz]

Hi I'm in Edinburgh.:welcomeani:

[Sol Invictus]

Hi Muzz.

Its an eclectic gathering for sure, with lots of people from varied places. Good to see so mnay folks awakening and gathering, for soon we will need to shelter from the storm and live off what we know and gathered early.

[greybeard]

Hi Muzz.

Its an eclectic gathering for sure, with lots of people from varied places. Good to see so mnay folks awakening and gathering, for soon we will need to shelter from the storm and live off what we know and gathered early.

Nice way of putting it Sol.
Storms come and go. Just a question of being in the lee of the land. ie safe harbour till it blows over and it will.
However I am too old for the Nomadic life and a vegetarian so I will probably weather the storm where ever life places me.
Only fear is to be feared.
Chris

[Sol Invictus]

Nice way of putting it Sol.
Storms come and go. Just a question of being in the lee of the land. ie safe harbour till it blows over and it will.
However I am too old for the Nomadic life and a vegetarian so I will probably weather the storm where ever life places me.
Only fear is to be feared.
Chris

A vegitarian is no reason not be be nomadic, but I agree, as we grow more distinguished we as a specie slow down. However, I am more inclined to say that I for one say we need older people in a group, need that hard won knowledge and experience. If push comes to shove, a group of young folks need their fires tempered by experience that only a long full life can lend.

[greybeard]

A vegitarian is no reason not be be nomadic, but I agree, as we grow more distinguished we as a specie slow down. However, I am more inclined to say that I for one say we need older people in a group, need that hard won knowledge and experience. If push comes to shove, a group of young folks need their fires tempered by experience that only a long full life can lend.

Yes we need to find some one older :mfr_lol:
Im only 62.
I feel 18 most of the time and am reasonably fit.
Have a word with Rab -- First Fruit. We are planning meeting up with some others in Perth soon. You would be vey welcome to come with us.
Thanks for your kind words
Chris

[Sol Invictus]

It would be a pleasure.

I'll message for dates and times. I'm Inverness bound so if any ones round this way i'll chip in for fuel costs as I don't have a car.

[Wolf_2012]

Hello All

I'm still working my way through all the posts but looks like there is already a real interesting mix of people here. I'm glad to be joining in...

Any Integral (AQAL)/Spiral Dynamics students in the group?

Lang mae yer lums reek!

:biggrin2:

[greybeard]

Hello All

I'm still working my way through all the posts but looks like there is already a real interesting mix of people here. I'm glad to be joining in...

Any Integral (AQAL)/Spiral Dynamics students in the group?

Lang mae yer lums reek!

:biggrin2:

Long life to you too. (thats just one meaning)
Your using the old Scottish is quite a coincidence. I explained that exact phrase to my partner Rosaline recently, she is from Cameroon.

Im not sure about (AQAL). Is it a therapy?
A lot of things are included in and coming from N.L.P. (Neuro linguistic programing) which I am trained in.
Anyway welcome aboard.
Chris

[shaundelear]

Long life to you too. (thats just one meaning)
Your using the old Scottish is quite a coincidence. I explained that exact phrase to my partner Rosaline recently, she is from Cameroon.

Im not sure about (AQAL). Is it a therapy?
A lot of things are included in and coming from N.L.P. (Neuro linguistic programing) which I am trained in.
Anyway welcome aboard.
Chris

Have a question for Greybeard re the NLP .
My understanding is that its similar to hypnosis ?
If so is it possible to be programed to help with motivation and meditation?
I was in sales and have been hypnotised twice a while ago ,with outstanding results.
I seemed to have lost the clarity I used to take for granted - focus.
Maybe something in the water.
Any pointers?Could nlp help?

[greybeard]

Have a question for Greybeard re the NLP .
My understanding is that its similar to hypnosis ?
If so is it possible to be programed to help with motivation and meditation?
I was in sales and have been hypnotised twice a while ago ,with outstanding results.
I seemed to have lost the clarity I used to take for granted - focus.
Maybe something in the water.
Any pointers?Could nlp help?

Hi Shaundelear
NLP would help as would hypnosis.

Basically two clever guys looked all the therapists who had a very high sucess rate and modeled what they did in order to see if anyone could be taught how to do it.

Well anyone can learn but the sucess comes from the therapists attitude as well --- some are very good at what they do. Bit like selling.

Motivation comes from desire. Meditation is desireless, if you are looking for a result in meditation you will be dissapointed. If you dont look for a result in selling you will be disapointed. -- The result is laid out further down the page

Clarity is something else again. Depends what you want to see or do with clarity.
As you evolve spiritually desire drops away all by itself, its replaced with being at ease content with what comes into your life. You are even more alert though -- you are not going to sleep. You enjoy what you are doing in this moment with enthuism with out the stress of worrying about out come.

Dont sell -- help people in this moment enthusiastically to get what they want/need. People want to buy. The end result is not down to you but how you present the product is.

Hope this helps

chris

PS This may seem of topic but its all about having a good attitude which is necessary to bring a Radient Zone into being.

The old Greybeard:mfr_lol:

[Angel of the Mists]

Hello folks......

Not been able to access very much the last few days, and wondering if meeting up is still a plan? If I can possibly make it, I would like to join you.... :)

Love, Angel

[greybeard]

Hello folks......

Not been able to access very much the last few days, and wondering if meeting up is still a plan? If I can possibly make it, I would like to join you.... :)

Love, Angel


Hi Angel and other Scottish Ground Crew
best to send a private mail to Rab -- Firstfruit --

He and I should be coming down to the central belt, its just a question of aranging time place to meet and to do this he would need to know how many can/would come.

Regards Chris

[firstfruit]

Hi each and all

Nice to see so many brothers and sisters from Scotland love to all of you

This is just a small update in regards to a small peace of land I was hoping the ground crew would be interested in obtaining sadly the farmer wont sell but I have suggested renting you see this guys problem is where on his land he can rent to us sadly it does not look good I must say.

But there are many more farmers with a corner of land to sell and I will find him or her.

Will keep you all posted

I was looking through the posts and I see more and more interested in Perth on the 19 Oct I am looking so forward to this please anyone interested we meet in Inverness bus station in front of the library I have a seven seater zafira but only 5 seats left as one for me and one for that wise old owl greybeard.

Shaun where in Perth do you suggest my friend or did you say you would host if numbers were right.

We have around 3 weeks to organize this and my wife said I am allowed lol please all who are interested if you don’t mind pm me with an e-mail addy or phone or mob number so we know the numbers.

We all have to agree a meeting place in Perth so who knows Perth? :smoke:

[shaundelear]

Hi All,
Yes am still up for a meeting and judging from the response it looks like we wont have more than ten so I am willing to be host for a day no problem - infact I am looking forward to it.
The beauty of holding it here will be access online for discusions and visual aids you tube etc.
Greybeard great answer to my question can't wait to meet you and would like to ask if you would put together a skeleton plan ,a foundation of topics to get us moving.Maybe we should all do this ?
But we need numbers so if your comming let me know.
I think we should make the most of it when you get here as travelling is timely and expensive so if we can meet 12ish it will give us plenty time.

[firstfruit]

Hi All,
Yes am still up for a meeting and judging from the response it looks like we wont have more than ten so I am willing to be host for a day no problem - infact I am looking forward to it.
The beauty of holding it here will be access online for discusions and visual aids you tube etc.
Greybeard great answer to my question can't wait to meet you and would like to ask if you would put together a skeleton plan ,a foundation of topics to get us moving.Maybe we should all do this ?
But we need numbers so if your comming let me know.
I think we should make the most of it when you get here as travelling is timely and expensive so if we can meet 12ish it will give us plenty time.


Shaun sadly you are correct but as you say it matters not there are 4 thus far who are looking forward in anticipation to the gathering this is excellent

My love :roll1:

[paigetheoracle]

I came up from England 20 odd years ago because South of the border will not be a safe place to live when things start falling apart (It was an instinctual thing), which won't be too far off if Palin/ McCain gets in (We'll have had out chips by then, I reckon:mfr_lol:). Palin is like George Bush and I see her invading Iran and probably nuking it because it is going to be no pushover, unlike Iraq. Like Whoopi Goldberg, when I heard her party nomination speech, it felt like something out of Mel Brooks 'The Producers' - Springtime for Hitler. My jaw dropped and I was stunned by what I heard. Bang goes the neighbourhood, I thought!:mfr_omg::yikes:

Anyway I'm from just outside Kilmarnock.

[firstfruit]

I came up from England 20 odd years ago because South of the border will not be a safe place to live when things start falling apart (It was an instinctual thing), which won't be too far off if Palin/ McCain gets in (We'll have had out chips by then, I reckon:mfr_lol:). Palin is like George Bush and I see her invading Iran and probably nuking it because it is going to be no pushover, unlike Iraq. Like Whoopi Goldberg, when I heard her party nomination speech, it felt like something out of Mel Brooks 'The Producers' - Springtime for Hitler. My jaw dropped and I was stunned by what I heard. Bang goes the neighbourhood, I thought!:mfr_omg::yikes:

Anyway I'm from just outside Kilmarnock.



Nice to have you here my friend welcome I originally hail from Glasgow 29 years up here love it

My love Rab :welcomeani:

[GavinJ13]

Hi all, just finished two of the three ground crew books by G.green and friends. Intresting stuff, dont quite know what to make of it, would like to hear what other people think about the hole crazy "game" as Mr Green calls it. Cheers :thumb_yello:

[greybeard]

Hi all, just finished two of the three ground crew books by G.green and friends. Intresting stuff, dont quite know what to make of it, would like to hear what other people think about the hole crazy "game" as Mr Green calls it. Cheers :thumb_yello:

Hi Gavin
Frankly I dont know what to make of it either.

I just like to keep it simple.
Radient Zones make sense, being self sufficint in every way is a dream I have had for some time.

Earth changes are a fact, water is rising is a fact.

There is a lot of stuff flying about on this site that may or not be true, may or may not hppen but to my mind most of it is a distraction.

If somting does happen in Oct that might just give us a clue to the future.
If nothing much happens then Radient Zones are still a valid concept.

Michael StClare emphasises if they are created out of fear they wont work and I can seee that point.

So I feel its imporrtant to be level headed.
This thread is well recomended --- see the stars at the top of the page.

I believe that is because all the thread contributors are being down to earth in their posts.

Proud to be part of Scottish Ground Crew with all my new friends.

Chris

[GavinJ13]

I've been looking in to the subject of the possible earth changes ahead and the main worry I have about the hole thing is that society hangs by a thread, and not a lot of people are thinking about it.
My family think I'm a conspiracy nut and, my friends seem to glaze over at the first mention of what my be a-head. I believe in the universal laws of intention and allowance and fully agree with setting up safe zones with positive intention. I think the people have to take responsibility despite the difficulties that present themselves.
If things do go tits-up how many people have the skills to look after themselves? let alone their families, how many groups are out there with the resources to help? Big subject!! but good to know there are people out there thinking about it. Cheers for the message greybeard and if any one wants to chat? drop me a line, cheers.

[firstfruit]

Gavin please go have a look here it helped me see the bigger picture

http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/

http://www.keyofsolomon.net/

http://oneism.org/#


My love
rab

[Sol Invictus]

[QUOTE=GavinJ13;38496]
If things do go tits-up how many people have the skills to look after themselves? let alone their families.
#################################################

I do. I'll trap, hunt, snare, fish, build shelters, make fires and generally keep good order. The good lady wife will gut/pluck/slice and dice.

However, we need to build a community, because as good as we are in our own fields of experience, we cannot be every where at once.

Hence I am totally up for making a group and a contact system so we can plan ahead.

[GavinJ13]

Trapping, fishing and hunting...not a problem, I was quite handy with those skills as a kid and enjoyed the out doors N building shelters, knowing what plants are edible and all that.
Building a net work of people who could educate as many others as possible about the knowledge of survival and relative skills is a smart idea, just ironic that people used to look down on survivalist as out casts and nut jobs; well....my family did. Wish I had ignored them cause now I have the skills to offer help. We need Ray Mears on our crew and may be Chuck Norris.

[SHAMANKA]

Hello folks,
Just wanted to see what is going on and if the meet is still happening? And how people are feeling ..
I wont be able to attend the meet, but I hope that someone who is going will be able to chat online with me about it afterwards or something.
Also just wanted to connect. I have been coming in here and reading certain threads and asking questions of people whom I believe are well grounded and extremely knowledgeable in their particular spirituality/energy work.
to that end I have been adding my energies to the meditation group here

[URL="http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/group.php?groupid=55"]


whether or not you know how to meditate is not really an issue..if you are setting aside time each day to send out a loving positive energy, its a start.
Explore what works for you, use a picture of the planet of you have to. I feel it is important to engage with matrix, the divine matrix, as Greg Braden calls it ( and he is worth checking out) and feed into the opposite of fear which is of course love.
here is an informative insight into the sort of thing I am talking about.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7vN686OUAJM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ko4ehMxt17M&feature=related

prt two
Of course question everything , especially at this time as more and more information is flooding us, and that is part of it, as people wake up and I believe they are, the disinfo and hysteria will increase. Listen to your dreams and your deepest intuitive self.
I have no choices to make. I have to stay where I am, and and the more I dig in the more I realise for now it is the right thing to do, (if you knew the things that had happened to me in my life and how it has worked out that I find myself here, when I could have been very far away, then you would understand)
Scotland is an ancient country with many, many years of victim consciousness to overcome..we also have some of the most amazing resources ( we just dont have them as a people ..yet) and also some deep and profound wisdom to be tapped and for me that translates through its people and in whom is attracted to *be* here .. in regards to this I also mentioned earlier about this being in scotland..

http://www.samyeling.org/


listen to what david wilcock says in particular the end of his call today- which is at the camelot site-. I find it inspiring.
Anyway I felt the need to say this, in regards to the possiblity of war games rumoured, who knows? Lets not feed into that one.
I am trying to come from my heart, I hope it reads that way. If I see anything going on around here I will post it..

peace to all and love in all its forms.

[SHAMANKA]

darn it whats happend my links dont work..try again..
this is the order they are in the post..wont edit in for some reason..and I am fed up trying!


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7vN686OUAJM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ko4ehMxt17M



http://www.samyeling.org/

[Fina]

In Shetland. There's a few of us here 'awakened', and we're working on waking up a few more!

Just discovered the Forum and joined.

[Sol Invictus]

Hi Fina,
welcome.

Inverness here, and always happy to see more and more people awakening. Shetlands hey? now thats some wild and remote land you got up there.:thumb_yello:

[greybeard]

In Shetland. There's a few of us here 'awakened', and we're working on waking up a few more!

Just discovered the Forum and joined.

Hi Fina
Welcome
your in the right place here.
Lots of good positive new friends I have found.
Keep in touch
Chris

[Sol Invictus]

Morning Grey,
how's things?

All ready for all those noise fighter bombers over the coming ten days?

[Nik]

I will not be able to attend the 19th October meeting. :original:

[greybeard]

Morning Grey,
how's things?

All ready for all those noise fighter bombers over the coming ten days?

Hi Sol
Im fine.
I have hearing aids -- the poduct of all these years playing in a rock band--
A hearing aid is great-- I can turn off people or anything else I dont want to listen to laughing. Present company excluded.
Bombing I may hear though.
I wonder how may £s will be spent by the RAF on this:mfr_lol:
Looking forward to meeting you. Plan to meet Rab tomorrow.
Regards Chris

[Fina]

Hi Sol & Chris,

Fine to correspond with other Scots!

Not so wild here at the moment- fine 'dryin' day'!
We were the sunniest place in the UK in August, but expecting a bad winter... seeing a Robin here as early as Sept. is surely a bad sign?

Been keeping an eye on various Real news sites for some time, Interesting Times indeed...

[iainl140285]

Hello Scotland!

Been a while since I posted here. Nice to see new like-minded members appearing all the time. :)

Thanks for the post Gavin.
Hello to Sol Invictus, Shamanka, Fina:thumb_yello: (I dont think I've spoke to you guys directly yet)

I think I've missed the meeting arangements - can anyone fill me in?

Thx
Peace
Iain :

[traite]

Greetings from deepest Glenfiddich (ok its a double)
Did someone say 'End of the world' on the 7th? :smoke:
Get the Irn-bru ready, it could be a long one.
What happened to September 10th or did that black hole transfer us to an alternative universe? I miss all the best meetings.
Anyway hello from my part of Scotland that is Glasgow:tongue2:

[greybeard]

Greetings from deepest Glenfiddich (ok its a double)
Did someone say 'End of the world' on the 7th? :smoke:
Get the Irn-bru ready, it could be a long one.
What happened to September 10th or did that black hole transfer us to an alternative universe? I miss all the best meetings.
Anyway hello from my part of Scotland that is Glasgow:tongue2:

Welcome Traite
Yes you must have a double.
Would that be Screaming Lord Such?
The only black hole that I dissapered into as apposed to a huaf & a hauf was Jonny Walker Black Label but thats another story.
The clan is growing.
Regards Chris

[traite]

[QUOTE
Would that be Screaming Lord Such?
[/QUOTE]

Actually it's Jerry Sadowitz-comedian magician psychopath. Although I do see a resemblance:bleh:

[SHAMANKA]

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/taxpayers+to+take+stakes+in+banks/2490517

We are all about to become part-owners of Britain's biggest banks.

Channel 4 Newsunderstands the government will announce before the markets open it is going to spend billions of pounds of taxpayers' money on a stake in almost every UK high street bank.

Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling have held emergency talks with the Bank of England governor Mervyn King and the Financial Service Authority's Lord Turner.

The pressure to agree a deal follows yet another day of sharp falls in banking shares and its been the banks that have pushed the chancellor into coming up with a plan sooner, rather than later.
from ch4 news website..

[greybeard]

http://www.thevenusproject.com/

This is interesting
Chris

[Nik]

I take it you watched Zeitgeist: Addendum? :winksmiley02:

It is indeed interesting, but it seems more of a think-tank than an actual action-oriented organization. The ideas are of course great, but someone has to implement them... which assumes a level of cooperation and investment that reaches beyond a small ground-grew type group.

They are literally thinking in a global scale. This is great, but a very different kind of foundation is needed when compared to the current state of the world.

[greybeard]

I take it you watched Zeitgeist: Addendum? :winksmiley02:

It is indeed interesting, but it seems more of a think-tank than an actual action-oriented organization. The ideas are of course great, but someone has to implement them... which assumes a level of cooperation and investment that reaches beyond a small ground-grew type group.

They are literally thinking in a global scale. This is great, but a very different kind of foundation is needed when compared to the current state of the world.

Nope I havent actually. Is this is in relationship to the url I posted?
I dont really know anything about Zeitgeist
Chris

[Nik]

Yes, The Venus Project was discussed for a substantial portion of the (newly released) Zeitgeist: Addendum movie : http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[greybeard]

Hi Nik
the only concern ive heard is that its a bit sterile and not enough mention of spirituality.
Anyway such a project is so massive it will take time to come to fruition and while its good for the future there are pressing needs to be seen to now.
Another thing that concerns me is that the movie uses hypnotic tecniques to grab your attention and subtle brain wash.
This may not be obvious to the lay peson but Im a qualified hypnotherapist and it just jumps out at me.
All that glitters is not gold.
However I am open minded.
Thanks for the input it is much appreciated.


Chris

[greybeard]

The Light of the World

by Eckhart Tolle
eckharttolle.com

When you are fully present and people around you manifest unconscious behavior, you won't feel the need to react to it, so you don't give it any reality. Your peace is so vast and deep that anything that is not peace disappears into it as if it had never existed. This breaks the karmic cycle of action and reaction. Animals, trees and owers will feel your peace and respond to it.


You teach through being, through demonstrating the peace of God. You become the "light of the world," an emanation of pure consciousness and so you eliminate suffering on the level of cause. You eliminate unconsciousness from the world.


This doesn't mean that you may not also teach through doing – for example, by pointing out how to dis-identify from the mind, recognize unconscious patterns within oneself and so on. But who you are is always a more vital teaching and a more powerful transformer of the world than what you say and more essential even than what you do.


Furthermore, to recognize the primacy of Being and thus work on the level of cause does not exclude the possibility that your compassion may simultaneously manifest on the level of doing, and in effect, by alleviating suffering whenever you come across it. When a hungry person asks you for bread and you have some, you will give it. But as you give the bread, even though your interaction may only be very brief, what really matters is this moment of shared Being, of which the bread is only a symbol. A deep healing takes place within it. In that moment, there is no giver, no receiver.



But there shouldn't be any hunger and starvation in the €rst place. How can we create a better world without tackling evils such as hunger and violence €rst?

All evils are the effect of unconsciousness. You can alleviate the effects of unconsciousness, but you cannot eliminate them unless you eliminate their cause. True change happens within, not without.


If you feel called upon to alleviate suffering in the world, that is a very noble thing to do, but remember not to focus exclusively on the outer. Otherwise, you will encounter frustration and despair. Without a profound change in human consciousness, the world's suffering is a bottomless pit. So don't let your compassion become one-sided.


Empathy with someone else's pain or lack and a desire to help must be balanced with a deeper realization of the eternal nature of all life and the ultimate illusion of all pain. Then let your peace ow into whatever you do and you will be working on the levels of effect and cause simultaneously.


This also applies if you are supporting a movement designed to stop deeply unconscious humans from destroying themselves, each other and the planet, or from continuing to inict dreadful suffering on other sentient beings. Remember; just as you cannot €ght the darkness, so you cannot €ght unconsciousness. If you try to do so, the polar opposites will become strengthened and more deeply entrenched. You will become identi€ed with one of the polarities; you will create an "enemy" and so be drawn into unconsciousness yourself.


Raise awareness by disseminating information, or, at the very least, practise passive resistance. But make sure that you carry no resistance within, no hatred, no negativity. "Love your enemies," Jesus said, which, of course, means have no enemies.


Once you get involved in working on the level of effect, it is all too easy to lose yourself in it. Stay alert and very, very present. The causal level must remain your primary focus, the teaching of enlightenment your main purpose and peace your most precious gift to the world.





Adapted from The Power of Now, copyright 1999 by Eckhart Tolle. Reprinted with permission of New World Library, Novato, CA, 800-972-6657 (ext. 52).

[greybeard]

For me this says it all.
Hope it helps you too.
Chris

[mattmckill]

Hi Chris,
Read your last thread. Never a truer word spoken. Wise words that we should all take on board and practice.
Matt:thumb_yello:

[greybeard]

Hi Chris,
Read your last thread. Never a truer word spoken. Wise words that we should all take on board and practice.
Matt:thumb_yello:

Thanks Matt.
Good on you.
Not many people can yet see that there is a different way but it worked for Ghandi and Nelson Mandella and no doubt others.

They were unarmed but the victory was great and profound.

Its a bit like Karate you are using the other persons strength to defeat them. Its not necessary to hit back as such to win, you exhaust them by not doing what they expect..

Spiritually its a form of right action.
Eck is saying that.

Its a question of balance.

Yes if some one is going to kill you dont stand there and say "Nothing can touch me go ahead"
Its taking appropriate action with out fear.

Total focus not being distracted is the way.
What exactly do we want to see happen?
Why focus on nything else?

The focused magnifying glass held in steady hand burns the paper.

Hope to meet you soon.

Chris

[Jebins]

Hello to everyone. I'm new to this site so please forgive if I sound a bit 'clumsy'. I live in Lanark. Started sharing 2012 and Ascension info with family and friends. I think they are 'quietly concerned'..lol. It all feels real and right to me though so I'm running with it!!
The positive spiritual aspects to it all are my main focus though I feel there is going to be unimagined fear within my family and friends. I am sort of preparing myself in order stay calm for them during the final process. If anyone wants to chat or share stuff...please get in touch. I read Echarrt Tolle, David Wilcock and trust my own inner guidance. Cheers!

[shaundelear]

Hello to everyone. I'm new to this site so please forgive if I sound a bit 'clumsy'. I live in Lanark. Started sharing 2012 and Ascension info with family and friends. I think they are 'quietly concerned'..lol. It all feels real and right to me though so I'm running with it!!
The positive spiritual aspects to it all are my main focus though I feel there is going to be unimagined fear within my family and friends. I am sort of preparing myself in order stay calm for them during the final process. If anyone wants to chat or share stuff...please get in touch. I read Echarrt Tolle, David Wilcock and trust my own inner guidance. Cheers!
Dont you let anybody put you off mate - follow the rabbit !
People are beginning to wake up and talk about these things and your in a movement of planetary frequency realignment toward love. And its inevitable.
Consider yourself a becon of realliity sending out love, when you watch your family get more wound up by their "perceived reallity" remind them of your perspective - laugh about the credit crunch to all who bleet and tell them the truth -it does not exist-its just another form of control-its fake!!
Be strong and consider yourself blessed that YOU are aware because its a very small percentage of the population that even care never mind comprehend.

We are having a get togther on the 19th of Oct if you would like to join us your more than welcome.

[firstfruit]

Hi one and all and my love

I have just received the postcode of the meeting place which is Carvery EH48 1LQ. This will help no end I look forward to meeting you all

Chris has also a beautiful retreat Loch Tay we can all consider for our next meet up if this could be arranged and a date if at all possible would be excellent. I will pm you all the web addy so you all can go look at this beautiful place

When we all meet up we need some sort of identification all will recognise can you imagine going round everyone you see asking are you ground crew.

Any suggestions my friends

[firstfruit]

Dont you let anybody put you off mate - follow the rabbit !
People are beginning to wake up and talk about these things and your in a movement of planetary frequency realignment toward love. And its inevitable.
Consider yourself a becon of realliity sending out love, when you watch your family get more wound up by their "perceived reallity" remind them of your perspective - laugh about the credit crunch to all who bleet and tell them the truth -it does not exist-its just another form of control-its fake!!
Be strong and consider yourself blessed that YOU are aware because its a very small percentage of the population that even care never mind comprehend.

We are having a get togther on the 19th of Oct if you would like to join us your more than welcome.


Very well said Shaun short sweet and straight to the point from the heart to the heart


Love brother

[firstfruit]

The Light of the World

by Eckhart Tolle
eckharttolle.com

When you are fully present and people around you manifest unconscious behavior, you won't feel the need to react to it, so you don't give it any reality. Your peace is so vast and deep that anything that is not peace disappears into it as if it had never existed. This breaks the karmic cycle of action and reaction. Animals, trees and owers will feel your peace and respond to it.


You teach through being, through demonstrating the peace of God. You become the "light of the world," an emanation of pure consciousness and so you eliminate suffering on the level of cause. You eliminate unconsciousness from the world.


This doesn't mean that you may not also teach through doing – for example, by pointing out how to dis-identify from the mind, recognize unconscious patterns within oneself and so on. But who you are is always a more vital teaching and a more powerful transformer of the world than what you say and more essential even than what you do.


Furthermore, to recognize the primacy of Being and thus work on the level of cause does not exclude the possibility that your compassion may simultaneously manifest on the level of doing, and in effect, by alleviating suffering whenever you come across it. When a hungry person asks you for bread and you have some, you will give it. But as you give the bread, even though your interaction may only be very brief, what really matters is this moment of shared Being, of which the bread is only a symbol. A deep healing takes place within it. In that moment, there is no giver, no receiver.



But there shouldn't be any hunger and starvation in the €rst place. How can we create a better world without tackling evils such as hunger and violence €rst?

All evils are the effect of unconsciousness. You can alleviate the effects of unconsciousness, but you cannot eliminate them unless you eliminate their cause. True change happens within, not without.


If you feel called upon to alleviate suffering in the world, that is a very noble thing to do, but remember not to focus exclusively on the outer. Otherwise, you will encounter frustration and despair. Without a profound change in human consciousness, the world's suffering is a bottomless pit. So don't let your compassion become one-sided.


Empathy with someone else's pain or lack and a desire to help must be balanced with a deeper realization of the eternal nature of all life and the ultimate illusion of all pain. Then let your peace ow into whatever you do and you will be working on the levels of effect and cause simultaneously.


This also applies if you are supporting a movement designed to stop deeply unconscious humans from destroying themselves, each other and the planet, or from continuing to inict dreadful suffering on other sentient beings. Remember; just as you cannot €ght the darkness, so you cannot €ght unconsciousness. If you try to do so, the polar opposites will become strengthened and more deeply entrenched. You will become identi€ed with one of the polarities; you will create an "enemy" and so be drawn into unconsciousness yourself.


Raise awareness by disseminating information, or, at the very least, practise passive resistance. But make sure that you carry no resistance within, no hatred, no negativity. "Love your enemies," Jesus said, which, of course, means have no enemies.


Once you get involved in working on the level of effect, it is all too easy to lose yourself in it. Stay alert and very, very present. The causal level must remain your primary focus, the teaching of enlightenment your main purpose and peace your most precious gift to the world.





Adapted from The Power of Now, copyright 1999 by Eckhart Tolle. Reprinted with permission of New World Library, Novato, CA, 800-972-6657 (ext. 52).


Chris absolutely beautiful words a truer word never spoken

Love

[Angel of the Mists]

Hi Guys....

Been travelling for a few days, so good to catch up with your posts tonight, and I too totally resonate with the words quoted above....

Love to you all and hope to see you on the 19th. How are we going to identify ourselves? Angel :)

[firstfruit]

on the 19th. How are we going to identify ourselves? Angel




I was hoping for some ideas on this one too.

Help from any one?

Identifying ourselves to each other?

As greybeards suggested when we first met a pink carnation and a copy of the London times under our arm lol

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Rab

[hekura]

...I have been compelled to review all of the posts in this thread. I will be honored to join you, but I will need to be represented for this meeting. Through my associate, who has already committed to this event...I offer everything I have, towards this "quickening" of spirit, within Scotland. Although I am of far-removed, and distinct origin...I expect that my pure intention will weave with the collective intent which has been expressed here.

I am very excited to begin the process of discovering the potential which fills our part of the world.

Love

[shaundelear]

The I.D question.
When you go in the carvery just ask for Shaun at the bar ,I will leave instructions - allthough we could have a laugh if we went with the carnation idea especially if theres a wedding in the hotel next door.

[firstfruit]

Hekura my freind

Your kind words of encouragement and support will be well received within the group, you are welcome in body, mind or spirit, your thoughts your energy your intent what more can be truly give than this and gifted. Freely given to us thank you blessed are those of a free heart.

We are all brothers and sisters all of the same origin and spirit no separation but what is imposed.

It’s the imposed the umbrella of deception we intend to change is it not brothers and sisters.

Smile and manifest love harmony and joy

[ramsay]

hi all just wanted to introduce myself, im scott aka ramsay (obv!), live in glasgow these days, hope to get to know all fellow scottish ground crew in time.
background, a number of years in the military, nowadays i live a more mundane but rewarding life lol


cheers

ramsay

[firstfruit]

The I.D question.
When you go in the carvery just ask for Shaun at the bar ,I will leave instructions - allthough we could have a laugh if we went with the carnation idea especially if theres a wedding in the hotel next door.



That’s what we can do well done Shaun good one.

Sorted

[firstfruit]

hi all just wanted to introduce myself, im scott aka ramsay (obv!), live in glasgow these days, hope to get to know all fellow scottish ground crew in time.
background, a number of years in the military, nowadays i live a more mundane but rewarding life lol


cheers

ramsay


Hi Scott

Welcome brother mundane yes but not for long be of a creative heart in the destruction that surrounds you.

love

[ramsay]

thanks bro, yeah mundane it may be, but far better.

[hekura]

firstfruit:

Your welcome is felt across continents. It is so very fun to realize that the illusion of time and space is coming unbound, as well....even though there is work at hand. My joy has always been in the doing.

I will definitely be with my other, there. I look forward to meeting you.

Please feel free to communicate your availability.

Love

[JohnDenver: Time]

Hi All,

I've not been online much lately so just catching up with all the recent posts. Unfortunately I won't make the meet this Sunday - but hope to make the next one.

Anyways just wanted to wish you all the best and hope the meet goes well.

Enjoy

[shaundelear]

Tomorows Meet 19.10.08

12 o'clock at the Bathgate Toby Carvery
We will meet there have lunch then to the house so we can have a chat.
When you go in I will be at the bar ask for Shaun I will inform the staff.
If your held up or running late or lost call me 07894538999.
It would be handy if I could have final numbers to ask for the right table /area.The foods ok nice and cheep under £10.
If you could send me a text and confirm the numbers in you party it would make my life easier.
All welcome
Shaun.

[SHAMANKA]

(I Hope everyone has a good meet tomorrow, :original:)
I am on this mailing list and thought this might be of interest to some folk, so passing it on.
Not sure if I will be able to attend yet though.
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Hope tomorrow goes well for all of you.
Peace
:original:

[firstfruit]

Tomorows Meet 19.10.08

12 o'clock at the Bathgate Toby Carvery
We will meet there have lunch then to the house so we can have a chat.
When you go in I will be at the bar ask for Shaun I will inform the staff.
If your held up or running late or lost call me 07894538999.
It would be handy if I could have final numbers to ask for the right table /area.The foods ok nice and cheep under £10.
If you could send me a text and confirm the numbers in you party it would make my life easier.
All welcome
Shaun.


Hi one and all

I cant wait for tomorrow I hope you all make it please would sol give me a pm just to be sure you can make it .I hope you don’t mind sol but Chris called me Thursday to say he had a cold he was hoping it would be gone for Sunday I honestly hope its gone too. Anyway sol I hope you don’t mind but if it’s only me and you my friend £25 each is this ok.

Good to see you organized Shaun :thumb_yello:

[firstfruit]

thanks bro, yeah mundane it may be, but far better.


ramsay

Sorry its way late I understand my friend well done :thumb_yello:

[Delphi]

Following Shamanka's post re bioregional food, there's also an expensive beautiful and informative book , FLORA CELTICA:Plants and People in Scotlandby William Milliken and Sam Bridgewater published by Birlinn in 2004 ISBN 1 84158 303 0. it "documents the evolving relationship between the Scots and their environment from the Stone Age to the present day." Its chapters cover food drink animal fodder building heating dyeing symbolism and folklore and more besides.
I'll try to remember to bring it tomorrow.
Which reminds me, hope you read this Shaun as I don't have a mobile, there's three of us coming tomorrow.
love to all

[greybeard]

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/dcannon.htm
Hi guys
Sorry I missed meeting you.
This is a good video featuring a Hypnotherapist.
Its very positive.
Chris

[shaundelear]

Well I thought someone would have done a quick write up as to how the meeting went but it seems to fall to me.
My main reason for writing is to encourage those who wanted to come but for various reasons missed out to make the effort the next time.

We met up at the carvery in Bathgate, windy, wet ,Sunday afternoon and everything just seemed to click there was no pressure at all no lingering atmosphere.
The food was good we got aquainted as we shared a nice cheap meal.
There were 7 of us .
I think we benifited from having a good mix agewise and I got to meet some lovely Ladies -think I really benifited from hearing the Ladies perspective helped clarify a few things for me, and Rab and Mat agreed.
The conversation did jump a little ,there were many experiences to tell and relate to which seemed to create a base level of understanding throughout the conversations -an instant respect .
The things we covered were not in depth - when you are reasured you by someone finnishing what you are talking about its an amazing feeling that your not the only nutter!
In fact I felt empowered on reflection,not in the "Ave got the ball!" way , more I am no longer alone , all those hours of research were not wasted and that the path We seemingly have chosen is Just .
Inspiring.
It was getting dark and the Ladies left ,hopefully one of you will post to encourage the girls to come to the next meet.
So it's me Rab and Matt and we had a laugh - about some heavy topics !which seemed to make it funnier?
Rab has an inbuilt abilty to cut to the point hummorously.
Another coffee for the road and it was all over but my head was still buzzing, almost scared incase I forgot something important.

Really looking forward to the next one which is probably the other side of Christmas.

So next time "walk the walk" with us.

Best Wishes All

Shaun

[Delphi]

To take up Shaun's challenge as one of the ladies.
Waiting by the Carvery on Sunday, M (who's struggling to get on line having just moved house and therefore is not yet registered on Avalon) my 16 year old son (young man but old soul) and me, slightly nervous and watching people going into the restaurant and saying "that's not them, she could be but he isn't, that's not them." Then three guys arrived and instantly we said "that's them."
That recognition set the tone for the whole afternoon. Given we'd not met before, it seemed so easy to talk and to include Angel when she arrived.
At Shaun's house in the fantastic attic room he's built himself, we went more deeply into ground crew stuff. what was really special was that no one of us took charge of where the conversation went - as Shaun says, instant respect. Though we didn't actually list them, we have an amazing range of skills.
There are those of us expecting (at the moment) to stay in Scotland and those planning to leave. M and i have some experience of - well rather than naming it directly, I'll just say a community that Bill Ryan describes as avant garde - and we both felt we found a more genuine sense of community on Sunday than either of us had there.
Above all it was wonderful to be able to talk from the heart and be accepted, rather than censor ideas in case they're too nutty.
One idea M and I had on the way home was, wouldn't it be fun to have a ground crew expedition to the ancient sites in Aberdeenshire or Kilmartin next summer.
All in all a great way to spend my birthday.
love to all

[firstfruit]

Well I thought someone would have done a quick write up as to how the meeting went but it seems to fall to me.
My main reason for writing is to encourage those who wanted to come but for various reasons missed out to make the effort the next time.

We met up at the carvery in Bathgate, windy, wet ,Sunday afternoon and everything just seemed to click there was no pressure at all no lingering atmosphere.
The food was good we got aquainted as we shared a nice cheap meal.
There were 7 of us .
I think we benifited from having a good mix agewise and I got to meet some lovely Ladies -think I really benifited from hearing the Ladies perspective helped clarify a few things for me, and Rab and Mat agreed.
The conversation did jump a little ,there were many experiences to tell and relate to which seemed to create a base level of understanding throughout the conversations -an instant respect .
The things we covered were not in depth - when you are reasured you by someone finnishing what you are talking about its an amazing feeling that your not the only nutter!
In fact I felt empowered on reflection,not in the "Ave got the ball!" way , more I am no longer alone , all those hours of research were not wasted and that the path We seemingly have chosen is Just .
Inspiring.
It was getting dark and the Ladies left ,hopefully one of you will post to encourage the girls to come to the next meet.
So it's me Rab and Matt and we had a laugh - about some heavy topics !which seemed to make it funnier?
Rab has an inbuilt abilty to cut to the point hummorously.
Another coffee for the road and it was all over but my head was still buzzing, almost scared incase I forgot something important.

Really looking forward to the next one which is probably the other side of Christmas.

So next time "walk the walk" with us.

Best Wishes All

Shaun






And what a good job you made of it Shaun I concur with what you say my friend the meeting was wonderful to be honest I did not want it to end.

I can not wait until the next gathering.

If I am honest I was so surprised that I was the only one that has read all the George green hand books it’s the content of these books we are suppose to be pondering this is what our forum is all about I honestly believe it is imperative all ground crew read the books the first 3 books are free and you can get them here:
http://www.nomorehoaxes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=60

The fourth book “message for the ground crew” is only 31 pages long I am typing the book up at the moment I am on page 16 it will be posted as soon as I am finished.

I am also just of the phone to George green I was going to buy some books it fell through so he has $40 of mine I have asked him to send me as many set of the hand books as he can for $40 we could get a pass along going with the books I know it’s a lot to sit in front of the pc reading 3 long books.

I don’t mean to say theses books are do or die but I promise you they will help with many of the questions you no doubt have.

I really believe part of the agenda for the next gathering should be the reading of these 4 books

I understand and agree that we need to stand together build a self sustaining community this is my personal dream too but it’s honestly not about survival it’s about transcending this nightmare we all partake of day in day out

For me it’s about ending the darkness on more fear hate or anger in favour of the light

One more book that is an incredible read a must Chris gave it to me as a gift

The book is: “The power of now”

Love one and all

Lak-ech my family

Rab

[greybeard]

Hi Guys
thanks for all the info re Sunday---I am truly sorry I wasent up or it.
There is a new Bob----- video on Avalon its a must to see.
He is very positive regarding our future and emphasises the need to let go of fear.
The spiritual masters will tell you that you may well have free will but the date and moment of your death in human form is decided at birth so if your destined to live till your 80 why worry if your only 79 :mfr_lol: That destiny can not be changed.
Worry is pointless.
Enjoy each moment with appreciation of the gift of life you have.
Looking forward to reading George Green Rab and meeting you all next time.

Much Love Chris

[firstfruit]

To take up Shaun's challenge as one of the ladies.
Waiting by the Carvery on Sunday, M (who's struggling to get on line having just moved house and therefore is not yet registered on Avalon) my 16 year old son (young man but old soul) and me, slightly nervous and watching people going into the restaurant and saying "that's not them, she could be but he isn't, that's not them." Then three guys arrived and instantly we said "that's them."
That recognition set the tone for the whole afternoon. Given we'd not met before, it seemed so easy to talk and to include Angel when she arrived.
At Shaun's house in the fantastic attic room he's built himself, we went more deeply into ground crew stuff. what was really special was that no one of us took charge of where the conversation went - as Shaun says, instant respect. Though we didn't actually list them, we have an amazing range of skills.
There are those of us expecting (at the moment) to stay in Scotland and those planning to leave. M and i have some experience of - well rather than naming it directly, I'll just say a community that Bill Ryan describes as avant garde - and we both felt we found a more genuine sense of community on Sunday than either of us had there.
Above all it was wonderful to be able to talk from the heart and be accepted, rather than censor ideas in case they're too nutty.
One idea M and I had on the way home was, wouldn't it be fun to have a ground crew expedition to the ancient sites in Aberdeenshire or Kilmartin next summer.
All in all a great way to spend my birthday.
love to all




ground crew expedition to the ancient sites in Aberdeenshire or Kilmartin next summer.
All in all a great way to spend my birthday.


i love this idea delphi anyone else? i would love to do this

[firstfruit]

I almost forgot http://www.culdees-ecovillage.co.uk/ this is Maryse place I did say at the gathering you can go your self and have a look if you wish this is a possible meeting place.

I am sure if you want to go have a look Chris would not mind you mentioning him as maryse and Chris are old acquaintances

[greybeard]

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4656

Have a look at this thread.
I hope its true
Chris

[shaundelear]

What a top post .
This is exactly what I needed to hear .
Maybe never grasped the Whole Consciousness being uplifted thing but I do now.
Well done Chris good to bring this up as I had missed it on the forum.
Am away to ponder....
So all the planets Evolve...
All life Evolves ...
Spectacular!
Does evil evolve ?

[greybeard]

What a top post .
This is exactly what I needed to hear .
Maybe never grasped the Whole Consciousness being uplifted thing but I do now.
Well done Chris good to bring this up as I had missed it on the forum.
Am away to ponder....
So all the planets Evolve...
All life Evolves ...
Spectacular!
Does evil evolve ?

Thought you would like that Shaun.
There is nothing but energy, atoms in movment, consciousness experiencing and evolving in all its shapes and form.
Consciousness becoming aware of itself.

At the highest level of awareness evil does not exist neither does good.
It just is as it is.
Nothing is right or wrong till thinking makes it so.
That takes a lot of understanding.

I have nearly completed a book on the subject of spirituality it might never be published but it was fun doing it.

Chris

[greybeard]

David Ike on Sky
two hour broadcast.

http://www.justin.tv/clip/c41db884102

Chris

[shaundelear]

Hello All :smoke:

Was just reading another thread talking about Avalon getting quieter and thought I could share todays experience with you.

I made up a playlist on you tube and invited my dad over and we sat down with a cup of tea and watched the various videos about where we are now and where we may end up .
I did not sugar coat any of if I just picked the shortest fact videos right from Galactic/Mayan right through to vacines and world health organisation and of course the new fourth reich and bush -am glad I dont know how to spell reich.
Dad turned up at 10am and had to go for 3pm but we covered a lot and the key was having the next video ready to go so avoiding to much time consuming chat.
2 of the videos were of the us concentration camps and fema coffins and just watching his reaction I knew he was taking this all on board and was deeply disturbed -he's a wise man "there is no smoke without fire".
At the start I thought he was going to give me the "pinch of salt" lecture and by the end he gave me a cuddle as he left shaking his head all the way to the car.
So said goodbuy and told him to be extra carefull driving home -you know how you get when your head is racing .
Get a phone call of him about an hour later asking how to open a you tube account so he could research it with my mum.

RESULT

On the whole I do think the site is getting less traffic.
Those of us who feel we have got the picture and are maybe in a shock state as to how to react well allow me to point you in a direction -

Morally I feel obligated to wake up as many people as possible and I have started with my dad who of all people has to be the hardest because from a sons perspective dads are always judging.
Today I believe I have made a difference and I was really nervous -you create your own obstacles and I hit it head on .

Felt good people.

Am sure it was one of those Saint Briggitta videos where God says the greatest gift(to Him) was someones soul.
Now whether you believe in the Creator or in the Tree of Life Creation/Conscious its the same just wrapped up differently so it does not really matter.
What does matter is the intent.
Once you deliver the information -
At the very least they listen make the polite escape:sneaky2:.
At the very worst your a crack pot:wall:.
At the very best you could have saved a soul:trumpet:.
And somewhere in between you probably gained an understanding with the individual whoever they may be and have given them the CHOICE to prepare for whats coming .:thumb_yello:

So whether its friends or family we need to start talking people!

This feals like the calm before the storm we could be in for a brutal winter -coldest October on record.

Feel free to use my playlist its "shaundelear" on you tube- playlist "basics"

[greybeard]

Well done Shaun.
If I was your Dad I would be proud of you.
Talking to others will now be easier.
Its a win win situation -- every time you share the information you will at the very least prime the person for what is to come and even if they dont heed you now, you have planted the seed.

Chris

[firstfruit]

And seeds are what it’s all about its all one can do well done Shaun nice one I have been seed planting a while.

What you sow now you will reap later

Beautiful awakening first fruits

You can tell them by there fruits and Shaun your fruits are enlightening constructive.

Lak-ech my friend

[shaundelear]

Thanks.
Rab when we talked you had a story in which you painted the picture of you standing on something looking over a sea of people .could not remember how you put it .
Can you repeat it cause I tried and sounded stupid and your terminology was mint.

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
Shaun, thanks so much for writing about your experience with your father. It's inspiring and helpful as my sister (the successful businesswoman) has decided after 7 years of little contact to visit us next month. Your you tube selection is likely to be more effective than anything her little sister says!

Rab, when we got home after meeting you all, W made a beautiful graphic of Lak'ech and stuck it up on his wall. That meeting really opened something for him., so thank you all.

I'm talking to as many people as I can, especially about compassion, community and creativity as ways to approach what's coming, as i don't want to add to fear - mine or anyone else's.

Even if this thread and PA generally have been a bit quieter, it's still hugely reassuring to know you're there.

love to all

[firstfruit]

Thanks.
Rab when we talked you had a story in which you painted the picture of you standing on something looking over a sea of people .could not remember how you put it .
Can you repeat it cause I tried and sounded stupid and your terminology was mint.




Shaun the more aware and awake you become the more able your are to pull your self out of a fast moving river on to a rock (observer) in the middle of the flow the fast flowing river is the mass consciousness (a mass of people) and you my friend are upon one of these rocks these rocks are few and far between.

As you well know

You shout and ball but no one is listening all you can do you are doing Shaun plant as many seeds as you can.

I know exactly how you feel

Bless them my friend bless your brothers and sisters and let them be free to what ever there fate maybe

A small pray we all can use

He is /she is /they are/ I am human becoming help me/them to become for there highest and best good for all concerned

[firstfruit]

Hi everyone
Shaun, thanks so much for writing about your experience with your father. It's inspiring and helpful as my sister (the successful businesswoman) has decided after 7 years of little contact to visit us next month. Your you tube selection is likely to be more effective than anything her little sister says!

Rab, when we got home after meeting you all, W made a beautiful graphic of Lak'ech and stuck it up on his wall. That meeting really opened something for him., so thank you all.

I'm talking to as many people as I can, especially about compassion, community and creativity as ways to approach what's coming, as i don't want to add to fear - mine or anyone else's.

Even if this thread and PA generally have been a bit quieter, it's still hugely reassuring to know you're there.

love to all




Nice you are getting together with your sister I know things will go well for you both.

I have to heal a few wounds my self I already have healed I just have to tell them that I will soon.

The meet up was beneficial to us all we are no longer alone

Lak – ech my friends love

[firstfruit]

DELPHI

So sorry if I am wrong and belated happy birthday if I am correct it was your birthday the day we all meet up was it not
:roll1:

[macleodmunro]

Hi everyone,
i feel like i'm butting into a conversation as i haven't posted since the first page, but i've always been here checking the chatter.

Great stuff with your dad Shaun. It's like letting a few tatties out of the sack we're all carrying on our backs.
It can be quite a burden when nobody wants to listen.

Although i had some success with a workmate yesterday. i told him all about the treasonus acts of 9\11 and 7\7.
But then i said i might be getting sucked into some fantasy world, as i was worried he might think i was off my head.
To my surprise he said, no no Paul, i think you're right.
I told him how we're all busy watching mindless drivel on the telebox to see what's going on around us.

I also had a surprise result a couple of weeks ago when i was working in a sheltered housing complex.
I started talking to the warden about my resent interests and she was keen to learn more. I told her i had this DVD called zeitgeist that would open her eyes, but i couldn't give her it as it belonged to someone else. So she brought through her laptop to the lounge and got the DVD from my van and left her watching it, as i had work to do.

When i returned about an hour later there was another warden and 3 carers sitting watching with her, all glued to the screen.
They all seemed to belive what they were seeing, but were probably a bit shocked.
Lets hope they tell others what they saw and sow some seeds themselves.

PEACE AND LOVE FROM PAUL

[shaundelear]

Good post Paul.

Well I had another bizzar day -funny.
10am and the doors goes and its the Jehovas Witness's.
Honestly the minute he started talking I interupted him and invited the two older gents in for a coffee . It was raining and the chance to throw them a few curveballs ....
Rab lent me the Book of Enoch,it was sitting on the table.
We sat down and I asked him about the difference between being a Witness and Christianity and I he instanty said "God says..." and started reading a passage from his well worn Bible.
Every question was followed with the same pure factual format "God says.." and quote another Verse.
He realy knew his Bible(I dont even know which Bible)but he went straight to the passage every time it was impressive.
So decided to step up a gear and asked him if he had read the book Rab lent me " no "was his reply.
The perspective he projected was of aloofness regarding the book it was right infront of him and he never picked it up?
A scholar of God?
And he realy was but when it comes to viewing evidence outside of his Bible not interested.Dead sea scrolls ?Egyptian Book of the Dead?
Not interested.
I am reasonable at body lanuage and it was like I had just asked him to sign his house over .
His "poker face" was firmly on .
So i asked him about the nephilm.....
Explained about Nibiru.... was that cruel?
Showed him the giant skeletons on you tube -good tool.
The pair of them did not realy know what to do.
So they made there polite excuses and left me his card and a small book called "What does the Bible realy teach ?"

My "moral of the story" and my lesson for today, I believe has been -
Armed with a pamphlet and a Bible and thier Faith these two Honorable men give there time to saving people it takes a special kind of person to chap doors in the rain to help save non believers as best they knew how.
So it made me feel humble. -on reflection.
I was feeling chuffed about yesterdays meeting with my dad and after seing some "proffesional" bashers in action,confirms that there are lots of good people needing rescued -they knew it -we know it .
Going to do more ,after realizing that more of us will be "re-tunning" every day and night as we get closer thier ability and understanding increases, this means somone who would not listen today may listen tomorow.
Which is an interesting observation(socialy).:winksmiley02:

[AlbaTiVo]

Hello all!

Just wanted you to know that your geographical influence reaches further than you think. As a Glasgow born and bred Scotsman who moved to the United States in 2000, I still keep a close eye on what is going on back home.

Keep the home fires burning as I have my passport at the ready :original:

Steven

[greybeard]

Hello all!

Just wanted you to know that your geographical influence reaches further than you think. As a Glasgow born and bred Scotsman who moved to the United States in 2000, I still keep a close eye on what is going on back home.

Keep the home fires burning as I have my passport at the ready :original:

Steven

Good to have you here Steven
Chris

[greybeard]

Hi everyone,
i feel like i'm butting into a conversation as i haven't posted since the first page, but i've always been here checking the chatter.

Great stuff with your dad Shaun. It's like letting a few tatties out of the sack we're all carrying on our backs.
It can be quite a burden when nobody wants to listen.

Although i had some success with a workmate yesterday. i told him all about the treasonus acts of 9\11 and 7\7.
But then i said i might be getting sucked into some fantasy world, as i was worried he might think i was off my head.
To my surprise he said, no no Paul, i think you're right.
I told him how we're all busy watching mindless drivel on the telebox to see what's going on around us.

I also had a surprise result a couple of weeks ago when i was working in a sheltered housing complex.
I started talking to the warden about my resent interests and she was keen to learn more. I told her i had this DVD called zeitgeist that would open her eyes, but i couldn't give her it as it belonged to someone else. So she brought through her laptop to the lounge and got the DVD from my van and left her watching it, as i had work to do.

When i returned about an hour later there was another warden and 3 carers sitting watching with her, all glued to the screen.
They all seemed to belive what they were seeing, but were probably a bit shocked.
Lets hope they tell others what they saw and sow some seeds themselves.

PEACE AND LOVE FROM PAUL

Its amazing what can happen Paul.
People are becoming ready to hear.

My favourite author is Eckhart Tolle, he has sold millions of spiritual books.
"The Power of Now" his first book was the number one best seller of all books on the New York Times best seller list -- thats cool.

The miracle is that now people are ready to read them.
If the books went out 20 years ago he would have been lucky to have sold a few thousand.

Keep doing what your doing, some will listen some will not.
Thats the way it is.

Best regards Chris

[shaundelear]

Hi All

Am getting a bit worried about our vacinations.
Front page of the Edinburgh Evening News on sat Nov 1 reads "A Pox On None of Our Houses".
To sum it up experts are puzzled as to why chicken poxs has vanished .
In a study of 750 kids there have been no cases since August 2007.
This is a problem as the kids "need" to be exposed in order to build up immunity.
As adults chicken pox can do considerable damage and can have complications like pneumonia and shingles.
The strange thing is the rest of Scotland has normal levels of kids with the pox and the Lothians have more cases of "third world" water-borne diseases than pox infected children.
Does this smell like problem - reaction - solution ?
Maybe not on its own but when we look at the new cervical cancer jags that Boots is now offering to 18-26 year olds -the same that is being pushed on schoolgirls 12 -13 ?
Then we see the reports that the yanks are being offered free flue jags at the same time as they vote.
So are they setting up another generation for a fall ?
This leads me to believe that the depopulisation/sterilisation may have begun ,barrium (not good for sperm) from the skies and targeting school girls ?
If vitamin c is going to be illegal in the E.U. as of January next year (2 months!) and the chemists are dishing out H5N1 in flu mists then its happening sooner rather than later.
Am I wrapped up in this new world order conspiracy?
Or have they really laid the foundations of depopulisation?

[greybeard]

Hi Shaun
There is a lot to be aware of but not to be overly concerned about.
In that worry is useless as it creates toxins in the body which can cause dis--ease.

The sperm count has been dropping for at least thirty years.
Probably in animals too as we are loosing many from our Earth, they are becoming extinct. What is causing that I dont know.

I think that vacines should be refused and it is not good that young impressionable people are targeted by adverts ie young girls -- cervical cancer. The rate for this cancer dosent warrent encouraging " every" girl to have the vacine.

Interstingly my youngest son now 18 refused a vacine when he was in primary school. He was adament and his words were.

"I had one before I dident like it and im not having it now"

I have never taught him anything about spirituality he just knows, we have discussed it from time to time and he amazes me with the depth of his understanding.

Truth is I dont know if the vacines have a sinister purpose or just drug companies out to make as much profit as possible.

I think we have to use our own discression as to what we allow into our bodies in every respect.
For example many non organic foods have been subject to all kinds of unhealthy processes to make them grow, antibiotics being added in some cases.

Certainly you are making some very valid points Shaun and it is very true that our imune system need to be exposed tp various illnesses when we are young.

Look what happened when we and the Spaniards colonised North and South America, we took our illnesses with us and the native Americans were dropping dead left right a center because their immune system could not cope with these foreign illnesses.

Regards Chris

[Delphi]

Hi All
Shaun, I don't meant this to sound flip, but if there's a depopulation agenda, it hasn't reached the planning departments of the Scottish councils that are permitting all the new builds.

I am squirming when I hear Gordon Brown say the words New World Order - at least twice already. He (and Mandelson) are presumably aware what those words imply but at least they have not reached all levels of local government.

I wouldn't let W have vaccinations (before he was old enough to choose not to for himself) and had a difficult conversation with a doctor who was dragged into a routine developmental test by the practice nurse. (All I could say to the doctor was prove that all these auto-immune diseases like ME MS RA HIV are not related to mass immunisation.) It's my understanding that diseases have behaviour patterns and histories eg polio was in decline even before the vaccine was introduced. I'm not surprised that the Lothians are having unusually high levels of waterborne disease given the unusually wet summer.

Is anyone else having a hard time planning ahead at the moment? I can get to March as I'm organizing a group exhibition but otherwise 2009 is a blank. This is in terms of consensus reality and minor matters like making a living.

Chris you mentioned a few posts ago you'd written a book on spirituality. Have you thought of self-publishing so your wisdom could be shared with at least a few?

Paul, loved the story about Zeitgeist. W is a huge fan of it too and has shown it to several friends.

One of the other PA posts mentioned a guy called Nassim Haramein. I'm 2 hours into a 4 hour vid and he makes his version of physics very accessible and funny. I'm not scientist enough to argue with what he's saying but if you've got time to spare he's worth watching.

love to all

[greybeard]

Hi fellow SGC members.
Think it would be a good idea if we all ( who are inclined to) post here from time to time to keep the thread alive.
We are precious few as yet, so we need to keep appearing "front page" to let new subscribers know there is a like minded group in Scotland.

Love to All
Chris

[shaundelear]

Hi fellow SGC members.
Think it would be a good idea if we all ( who are inclined to) post here from time to time to keep the thread alive.
We are precious few as yet, so we need to keep appearing "front page" to let new subscribers know there is a like minded group in Scotland.

Love to All
Chris

Totaly agree Chris.

The lack of posts is making it less atractive to new people.
The problem with this site for new people is that the questions we are asking are difficult and some of the answers on Avalon show extreme inteligence and are profound.
Its intimidating for new people.
I feel dissapointed that our numbers have not jumped dramaticaly.
Those of us who have been here for a while - it's nice to hear from you.

[firstfruit]

Hi all

I agree it is nice when you read a new post on our sgc page even although they are few and far between.

I must apologise for my lack of participation.

I am studying everything I come across I am up to my neck in info and feelings

Can I ask you all can anyone feel the knowing an awareness a massive awakening sometimes I don’t know if I have had a dream our actually seen it or done it. It’s so confusing at times thinking does not help he he he lol

I feel the majority of people who need to know something is wrong now know or soon will

I believe the time to be positive is now happy thoughts don’t worry who is will be

A joke:

What lie cheats deceives and murders us and has done thought-out human history?

The very same monsters are trying to impose what they think will save them and fast laugh my friends as this is a joke of mega proportions.

Some suffering yes but the darkness is ending no one is fooled no more or soon can’t you feel this can you feel this.

Am I nuts lol help?

Sorry my friends I am an other you

“Humanity and mother earth are becoming help us to become for our highest and our best good and for all concerned”

Lak-ech

[Delphi]

We may not add to SGC very often but we seem to get a lot of views, so hi to all who read SGC and if you are in Scotland please make yourself known. We don't bite! Unlike some threads. I try to choose carefully what threads to read but sometimes I get saddened by some of the craziness.

Firstfruit, as far as I'm concerned the mass awakening has to happen and is happening and I still haven't a clue what it's going to be like except a love and a connectedness we have so far only experienced at the best of times with the closest of friends and family.

love to all

[greybeard]

TV Channel 4 uk 10.05 am Friday 7th Nov

Who really rules the world

Conspiricy theories investigated --- its all coming out.

Chris

[Antaletriangle]

Ayup you beautiful people!!I love the west highlands and islands.

[greybeard]

Hi the deeper you get into the subject of spirituality the more confusing it can seem.

However it is all in the level of consciousness -- the viewpoint.
People are exactly where they are supposed to be in the scheme of things.
All are in the process of coming home.

All souls are equal -- some are just further along the path than others.

One expression that is used by a Enlightened teacher is " I am the Totality all of it.

So God is both here and transcedant.. God is every atom every molocule.

We are on the verge of the greatest step in evolution since we left the sea acording to Eckhart Tolle and others.

Yes there is the Ying and Yang -- Mantak Chia books are good.

Virtually everything in this world came into being through male and female energy merging to become as one and creating the vehicle for life to come into a new form.

Its not that the world is changing as such its our change of perception that will enable us to see a "New World"

Duality only exists as as an illusion of the mind.
Opposites seem to seperate that which is in reality one -- all waves of the Divine Ocean.

You can start to see through duality if you start to see things on a sliding scale like a thermometor.
There is less heat or more heat.
Less love or more love.
You can apply this way of seeing to virtually anything.

I believe that love exists in everyone to a lesser or greater degree.
People who were meglo maniacs and were responsible for the death of millions have loved their dog for example.

Duality is a creation of the ego.

One ness is God.

In absolute reality only God is.
We are back to waves of the divine Ocean.
The paradox is.
The Ocean can say it is the wave -- the wave can not say it is the Ocean.

This is only my understanding of the moment.
Everyones view is relative to where they are in the process of spiritually evolving and they must act in accordence with their personal experience and view point.

Regards Chris

[Fina]

Hi all,

I don't know if anyone else spent a lot of time playing the Steve Jackson role-playing book-games when they were younger? I did.. and loved them! Deathtrap Dungeon etc.

Have a look at this... http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

{Link from Rense.com}

Steve's Illuminati New World Order game!!

I just found a set on ebay for £19.99 - Yule-tide pressie for another of the Crew :)

Blessings
Fina in Shetland

[greybeard]

Hi all,

I don't know if anyone else spent a lot of time playing the Steve Jackson role-playing book-games when they were younger? I did.. and loved them! Deathtrap Dungeon etc.

Have a look at this... http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

{Link from Rense.com}

Steve's Illuminati New World Order game!!

I just found a set on ebay for £19.99 - Yule-tide pressie for another of the Crew :)

Blessings


Fina in Shetland

Thanks for this Fina

Keep posting whenever you feel inspiired, please.

Love Chris

[Sol Invictus]

Hi guys.

I am have been very ill, had an operation on my throat, a major secondary infection and am in the process of having 6 teeth removed because of damage done when they had to intubate me.

In short, I am feeling sh##, looking sh## and at a low ebb. I will be back to strength soon I hope, but today I have 2 more teeth to come out.. The joy is all mine I can tell you.

Been reading the news in between the drugs, and I am not happy that Brown and mandelson mentioned new world order twice either. I will be back to post more when i can think a bit straighter.

Sol.

[mattmckill]

Hi guys,

Back after a month after my internet line was down. I've missed quite a bit on project avalon after speaking with all of you. Had a fantastic day meeting up with everyone, it's good to feel I am not alone. Did you check out Obamas victory speech when he said that the world is in peril! Wonder what he meant by that and what does he actually know!

Take care for now Matt.

P.S Hope you get well soon Sol.:original:

[greybeard]

Hi guys,

Back after a month after my internet line was down. I've missed quite a bit on project avalon after speaking with all of you. Had a fantastic day meeting up with everyone, it's good to feel I am not alone. Did you check out Obamas victory speech when he said that the world is in peril! Wonder what he meant by that and what does he actually know!

Take care for now Matt.

P.S Hope you get well soon Sol.:original:

Good to see you back Matt.
Like the pic -- I know the view well.
At the moment I am open minded about Obama -- once he is sworn in he might turn out to be his own man -- I know nothing about politics but I think that it is good that many people overcame their predudice to vote a "Black man in"
My partner Rosaline is a native of Cameroon so it was good to find I dont have predudice -- to be honest you never know till you are in a close relationship. She dosent have predudice against the colour of my skin either.
Her best compliment was
" You dance great for a white man" :mfr_lol:

Sol I hope you are on the mend I have missed your posts.

Chris

[shaundelear]

Good to have you back Mat did you miss all the info not being online?.

Today Rememberance Day, all those poor souls who "died for our freedom" so we did not grow up speaking German .
-Bless their Intent and thankyou for the determination and giving us the oppertunity.
However to pay homage to the top of the pyrimid for the souls they sacrificed as part of a control system -insanity
Watch the service on the news and look at the architecture of the building behind the monument.

11:11am on the 11th of the 11th month -maybe this was worth a little prayer ?For some reason this seemed important.

I have been spending time on numbers and how important they are ,and how the frequencies tie in with the musical scale and the periodic table,this on my path has stemed from the Coral Castle videos posted here on Avalon .
Some of the work done by GregorArturo on thread "cracking the code" is both fantastic and enlightening well worth a look people!
Personaly I don't quite get the bit about the nazis changing the musical scale/notes but it makes sense if they were trying to hide the entanglement of the maths and frequencies.
The Lanauge of Creation ?
Chris your musical, maybe you could explain how the scale was altered?

Really posted this here so you folks did not miss this as it seems vitally important and of course to keep the thread going.

Best Wishes All

Shaun

[greybeard]

Quote Shaun

I have been spending time on numbers and how important they are ,and how the frequencies tie in with the musical scale and the periodic table,this on my path has stemed from the Coral Castle videos posted here on Avalon .
Some of the work done by GregorArturo on thread "cracking the code" is both fantastic and enlightening well worth a look people!
Personaly I don't quite get the bit about the nazis changing the musical scale/notes but it makes sense if they were trying to hide the entanglement of the maths and frequencies.
The Lanauge of Creation ?
Chris your musical, maybe you could explain how the scale was altered?

Really posted this here so you folks did not miss this as it seems vitally important and of course to keep the thread going.


Hi Shaun
in my ignorance I dident even know the scale had been altered.
Regardless of what could be done to a scale the important thing is the energy of the ones playing and of course the composer.
Music can raise any emotion in the listener which is why the sound track of movies is so important in creating a mood in harmony with the film.
Gangster rap is not good idea for example.
Bye for now.
Chris
Best Wishes All

Shaun[/QUOTE]

[Fina]

Have you read the interview with Bob Dean posted yesterday?

http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_nibiru_interview_transcript.html

Quite a read...

Tied up a lot of 'loose ends' for me / connected more dots... I was wondering a while back, what the True value of Gold was ? - even mentioned to someone that they maybe needed it to help power their spacecraft? - like 'dilithium crystals'!
...Now it makes sense...

The interview left me feeling at peace, with hope in my heart :)

[greybeard]

Hi Fina
Yes its vey interesting.
Have you had a look at the accompanying video?
He is certainly very believable.
Chris


Have you read the interview with Bob Dean posted yesterday?

http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean_nibiru_interview_transcript.html

Quite a read...

Tied up a lot of 'loose ends' for me / connected more dots... I was wondering a while back, what the True value of Gold was ? - even mentioned to someone that they maybe needed it to help power their spacecraft? - like 'dilithium crystals'!
...Now it makes sense...

The interview left me feeling at peace, with hope in my heart :)

[Fina]

http://www.infowars.com/?p=5959

The deliberate 'dumbing-down'.


And, http://www.ukcolumn.org/2008/11/10/notably-limited-personality/

... NLP .

Check out the clips of how NLP works. Oh, they've just been removed! Gosh! ;)


Then- check out the 5 min video of Derren Brown using NLP- scary?

Blessings
x

[greybeard]

http://www.infowars.com/?p=5959

The deliberate 'dumbing-down'.


And, http://www.ukcolumn.org/2008/11/10/notably-limited-personality/

... NLP .

Check out the clips of how NLP works. Oh, they've just been removed! Gosh! ;)


Then- check out the 5 min video of Derren Brown using NLP- scary?

Blessings
x

Hi Fina
Thanks for this.
A lot of people use NLP.
There are buisness programs, therapy progrms, you name it.
Weather men use it - watch them on tv and you will see their delivery is quite different from most. They grab your attention. Unusual use of language body movment arm movment.

Its like everything else it realy depends on the intention of the user.
I trained in NLP Hypntherapy at St Annes hospital in london in theraputic use and many have had phobias removed instantly with NLP.

Nero Linguistic Progrming is the study and then modeling of what works and was originaly modeled on the work of sucessful therapists.

What concerns me more is that Mandelson has returned to a high place in Government against all odds. He and Brown were hardly best of friends.

I keep it simple in that I now know enough to realise that it is important to hope for the best and prepare for the worst without fear.

To my mind Radient Zones are the most sensible way of preparing for an uncertain future.
It may be uncertain but then it allways has been.
The human race survives regardless and we have an amazing opportunity to evolve spiritualy at this time.

Namaste Chris

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
Slightly on the subject of music, I just heard Edi Stark on Radio Scotland interviewing James Allan (?Spelling) from GlasVegas who said of his songs "I'm shouting compassion."
what a way to share music.

Years ago, W's dad used to say "In the beginning was the word" was a mistranslation. More accurately it ought to read "In the beginning was the sound" which would make music/maths/harmonics keys to the universe. I'm looking forward to reading what the Maya have to say about their calendars and their interpretations of numbers. (Drunvalo Melchizedek's interview on Conscious Media Network talks about the Mayas meeting to discuss all this with a view to releasing the info 2009/10) I'd agree GregorArturo is doing amazing work if I could begin to understand it!

To Sol, I really hope you are recovering + sending you healing vibes
To Shaun, I feel much the same as you about all the Remembrance Day commemorations. Gratitude to the guys who died and caution about the politicians who send them to war.
To Chris, Hope you don't mind me putting this on the public forum but my email's being temperamental. I'm enjoying your book - I'm about halfway through. I was struck particularly when you write about anger as stagnant energy needing release. (Apart from bad driving on the A9 which angers me because it scares me) I tend to see my anger as a warning that something's out of balance, which can get me doing something creative to get things closer to balance. Hope that makes some kind of sense!

love to all

[greybeard]

To Chris, Hope you don't mind me putting this on the public forum but my email's being temperamental. I'm enjoying your book - I'm about halfway through. I was struck particularly when you write about anger as stagnant energy needing release. (Apart from bad driving on the A9 which angers me because it scares me) I tend to see my anger as a warning that something's out of balance, which can get me doing something creative to get things closer to balance. Hope that makes some kind of sense!

love to all

Hi Fiona
thats fine.
Glad your geting somthing from the book.
Love Chris

[greybeard]

Hello all
Check this audio out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtsOc0E9WbQ

Its from a scientist studying the possabilities of a pole shift and earth changes in general..
Not for the faint hearted.

Have to say that if this is so then there is no need to be concerned about conspirecy, NWO, or any of that.

However it brings it back to Radient Zones as the best way forward.

Regards to all Chris

[firstfruit]

Sorry my friends please believe me love you all just no time to converse at the moment but watching. Sol my thoughts are for you and with you. Matt I thought we all scared you off I should have known better lol nice to hear from you both

This is astonishing what do you make of it

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7029560935708879101&hl=en

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2163927190615604194&hl=en

[mattmckill]

Hi everyone,

It's good to speak to you all again and apologies for not replying as quickly as I would like due to new work commitments. Been trawling through the web (as we all do) looking for answers to the changes I have been feeling in the last year and came across a site I think you all will be interested in. It's certainly answered some of my questions. I suppose we all have to have an open mind about the changes that are going to occur physicaly and spiritualy. The web site is:

www.principalityofcamside.cc/spiritual/DNA_changes.htm

Hope everyone is doing well, still getting dreams about tidal wave waters being as high as the Ailsa Craig (my ID picture). Also trying to locate a safe place in Scotland. I know when the time comes my heart will let me know but I would like to know now. (if anyone has the answer let me know):mfr_lol:

Have fun and keep smiling.

Matt

[Bobcat]

Hi Scotland, Wales calling.

Hope you all get through this *****.

Bless you all

Kindest regrds from Wales

Bobcat

[greybeard]

Hi Scotland, Wales calling.

Hope you all get through this *****.

Bless you all

Kindest regrds from Wales

Bobcat

Hi Bobcat
thanks for the "visit".
Drop in anytime.
Regards Chris

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
I've just heard on Radio Scotland Radio Cafe (or whatever the 1.15pm programme is called) that the Mitchell Hedges crystal skull as filmed by Bill and Kerry is at the History and Mystery conference at The Hub in Edinburgh this weekend. It's available to view 9am to 5pm Sunday (there may be a queue) and there's some kind of talk/show/meditation (sorry didn't catch the details) on Saturday evening.
see you there perhaps?
love to all

[shaundelear]

Sorry my friends please believe me love you all just no time to converse at the moment but watching. Sol my thoughts are for you and with you. Matt I thought we all scared you off I should have known better lol nice to hear from you both

This is astonishing what do you make of it

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7029560935708879101&hl=en

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2163927190615604194&hl=en
Yep the first video was good was interested in the cathode ray arrangement with the doudling magnets well worth watching.

The second one was just as good but not as much evidence provided.
Rab this guy is passionate about this but paints a bleak picture!

Just finished all 44 parts of Marc Rodins lecture phenominal.
Vortex energy and maths sounds boring and I had to watch some twice to grasp, but well worth it.

Has anyone checked out the MMS thread? in health.
Read the first part of Jim Humbles book .
If it really does what he claims -which there is plenty evidence it does then this is a front line defence must have .
He cured malaria in hours and aids in two days !
Has any of us Scots tried this ?
Would love a quick endorsement from someone who has been down this path before I order it.
Sounds to good to be true ? Thats what I thought but I can't think of any reason not to try it especialy as its cheep as chips .

[jenali11]

Hi Scottish Ground Crew

I've just joined the forum :original:- i'd been lurking for awhile - but once i found this thread i wanted to join. I'm from Greenock, not too many people to talk to in relation to topics discussed on this forum.

I started my journey 6 years ago with a radio show hosted by Alex Merklinger (Mysteries of the Mind, now shut down due to his ill health) there were THE most amazing broadcasts i'd EVER heard - guests included - Michael Tsarion, Noreen Gosh, Clif Webbot, Ted Gunderton discussing Boys Town, Jorden Maxwell, George Noorey, Jim Canney, Jim Mars, Peggy reverse speech lady etc etc......MIND BLOWING at the time. :shocked:

Round about the same time i had a dream of being taken prisoner to an underground facility, my eyeball was taken out and a lizards eye was put in...really scary. Told my friends son about it and he told me it sounded like the front cover of David Ickes book (children of the matrix)...David who???? Thats when i began reading/watching all of Davids material - his research is astounding!!!!!!! Also i've just recently got into Matthew Daloozy.

Great to have you guys here in one place. I read you already had a meeting - wayhay!! Would love to come to the next one.

love jenali11 xxx

[Sol Invictus]

Hi all.

Straight to the point. I am getting a bit worried about things coming down the pipe line so to speak, and the fact that so many folks are starting to pick up on it in the main stream media as well. Thats an eye opener for me to be honest.

OK, if all goes to the wall, contact me at solinvictus333@yahoo.co.uk

I am almost back to speed, need to do fitness training to get stamina back but I feel that 2009 is going to be a year where we will need to really start banding and bonding if we are to ride out the coming storm.

Oh and I'll be online for most of the evening now, so if any ground crew are about, just add a note here :) Sol.

[Fina]

RE the DNA change; I've experienced all that since I was about 11, and still do. I was diagnosed with MS eventually about 6 years ago.
{I gave a blood sample for an MS DNA research project recently- be interesting to see if they detect anything... and, whether they let me know anything if they do?!}

I have been using a Frequency Generator since March and feel much better.
Based on the work of originally Tesla and then Royal Rife.
http://www.zerozerotwo.org/

{Don't buy the commercial model available- very expensive, not very accurate or powerful seemingly? Get a secondhand Farnell Sine Square Oscillator or similar? }


About the Mainstream pipeline; I've been noticing for a while, that something is mentioned briefly on the News, then, a movie about just that topic appears on TV within a day or 2. Is this just coincidence, or am I just paranoid??

{As an example, the first time they mentioned a possible flu pandemic on News24 - the movie Outbreak was shown twice that week}


I watched the original Survivors series avidly when I was a kid. Interesting how they've re-made it now, with the 'impending flu pandemic threat' ;)

We live in Interesting Times indeed...

Blessings to all
Karen

[macleodmunro]

Hi Fina, naked Chris, and the rest of the SGC.

I'd love to hear about any results you might get from your blood test Fina.
My dad suffered with MS for 30 years. He passed away a year ago, fighting it all the way.
So my heart goes out to ya, lol

Send me a private mail if there is anything i can tell you that will help, i cared for my dad for many years.

Also i was wondering what the surviver series is.
When i was a kid it was an American wrestling event. I doubt this is what your talking about as i can't see what good body slams would do us:lol3:

Peace and love from Paul.

[Sol Invictus]

Just checking in.

/paranoid android attack/ON/

OK, folks, whos starting to get their stuff all sorted out for a hasty retreat into the wilds? whos got a bit of kit stashed for a rainy wet windy blustery nasty day? people starting to get 'location location location' sorted? starting to badger and hound people into getting off their arses and helping out/planning?
Reason I ask is that I look at the world around me and wonder just how long we have left until we are going to be staring into the abyss. Think I am too paranoid about the coming total and utter collapse? well maybe I am, but then maybe I don't want to be sat in an empty house wondering why i didn't prepare for the bad times.

/paranoid attack/OFF/

Thoughts about this? regards, sol invictus

[greybeard]

Just checking in.

/paranoid android attack/ON/

OK, folks, whos starting to get their stuff all sorted out for a hasty retreat into the wilds? whos got a bit of kit stashed for a rainy wet windy blustery nasty day? people starting to get 'location location location' sorted? starting to badger and hound people into getting off their arses and helping out/planning?
Reason I ask is that I look at the world around me and wonder just how long we have left until we are going to be staring into the abyss. Think I am too paranoid about the coming total and utter collapse? well maybe I am, but then maybe I don't want to be sat in an empty house wondering why i didn't prepare for the bad times.

/paranoid attack/OFF/


Thoughts about this? regards, sol invictus

Hi Sol
Meeting my place in Inverness this Sunday 7pm.
This is just an interim one as apposed to a full Scottish Ground crew.
Anyone wanting to come though e mail me for address.
Chris

[greybeard]

Hi Fina, naked Chris, and the rest of the SGC.

I'd love to hear about any results you might get from your blood test Fina.
My dad suffered with MS for 30 years. He passed away a year ago, fighting it all the way.
So my heart goes out to ya, lol

Send me a private mail if there is anything i can tell you that will help, i cared for my dad for many years.

Also i was wondering what the surviver series is.
When i was a kid it was an American wrestling event. I doubt this is what your talking about as i can't see what good body slams would do us:lol3:

Peace and love from Paul.

Hi Paul
to cold here to be naked or even without a sark.
The Avatar photo is not me but Ramana Maraharshi

Love Chris

[macleodmunro]

Hi Paul
to cold here to be naked or even without a sark.
The Avatar photo is not me but Ramana Maraharshi

Love Chris

Ha Ha, sorry Chris, i always thought that was you.

Although that made me think.
Just in case anyones been on my profile page and seen my photo, i thought i better clarify.

I'm not really a pimp, i was in funcy dress:lol3:

[Sol Invictus]

I did wonder about that fancy jacket you had on. :lmao:

Any how, sunday at 7pm is great for me, will be there.

[macleodmunro]

Hey Sol, i'm not making any plans to move.
We have no solid time scale for major Earth changes or nuclear warfare.

To be honest i don't really know what to do but sit and wait to see happens next.
I've got a wife and 3 kids to think about and there's just not enough concrete evidence to head for Ben Nevis:lol3:

Mind you speaking of evidence, there's a thread at the top of the preparations section about catastrophic Earth changes.
There's a link to a youtube video (i'd post it but i don't know how) of an interview on coast to coast am with George noorey. I can't remember the guys name, but he brings science, prophecy and ancient knowledge together brilliantly.
Lots of evidence of past pole shifts.

I'd advise anyone who hasn't heard it to hear this interview.

THE INFO IS MASSIVE, IT'S A MUST SEE

It's over an hour of your time but well worth it.

Peace from Paul

[greybeard]

Hey Sol, i'm not making any plans to move.
We have no solid time scale for major Earth changes or nuclear warfare.

To be honest i don't really know what to do but sit and wait to see happens next.
I've got a wife and 3 kids to think about and there's just not enough concrete evidence to head for Ben Nevis:lol3:

Mind you speaking of evidence, there's a thread at the top of the preparations section about catastrophic Earth changes.
There's a link to a youtube video (i'd post it but i don't know how) of an interview on coast to coast am with George noorey. I can't remember the guys name, but he brings science, prophecy and ancient knowledge together brilliantly.
Lots of evidence of past pole shifts.

I'd advise anyone who hasn't heard it to hear this interview.

THE INFO IS MASSIVE, IT'S A MUST SEE

It's over an hour of your time but well worth it.

Peace from Paul

Hi Paul agree with you.
NWO dosent concern me but pole shift -- earth changes do and certainly there is evidence of past events, so may happen again but who knows when.

This link is the same person but in video.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V2mWsqkmu8E&feature=related

Peace to you too.
Chris

[shaundelear]

how you doing ?

If you remember in the videos he talks about coastlines and how two massive tidal waves are predicted.
100 miles inland of the coast be effected .
And if you think about it Scotland will be hit by the Atlantic first which will be funnelled through the diagonal lochs and then by the North sea and you live in Aberdeen.
Scotlands just not high enough above sea level
Our saving grace may be Ireland, its a big breakwater.
But Glasgow,Stirling and Edinburgh are low, too low ,they are connected by the Union cannal and as they are only 40 miles apart 1 wave would do it.
So I live in the projected path and you live bang on the coast with your family.
Then there is the temperature,an instant Ice Age.
And the coronal ejection.
We need to move .
The question is when?
Hopefully not when its too late .

As most on this site believe that they can hope and send out good vibes
and it will be ok ,the disturbing facts get overlooked because they are too much to deal with.
But what if we dont instantly asscend?
These events that these top scientists are predicting are writen in history and phrophecy,no aliens are comimg to save us, so would it not be easier to get out of the way?

Best wishes - not trying to panic you just LISTEN to yourself ,are you safe where you are ?

[Sol Invictus]

Thats fair fellas. Thanks for your input.

[greybeard]

Hi Shaun
all that you say is so. If we dont go one way we go another it would appear.
However if the sages in India are to be believed the date of your death is decided at moment of birth, so I may get run over by a bus tomorrow, you cant go before your suposed to, so Im not worried.

Scientist may have some of it right but they cant say for sure the hight of waves or when.
Spiritual is very practical because it frees one from fear. There is now within me a total belief that I am not the body, that I live on before and after birth and death. I have been in bodies that have died before I have not.

So wave or bus -- whats the difference? Dead is dead.
Free of fear is somthing else -- no fear and you can enjoy life to the full.
Who cares what may happen? Enjoy this moment.
Trust God but mind and lock the car.
If an oportunity to prepare for earth changes comes take it. Common sense rules. Ok

My current Avatar is the type of boat I used to race -- the equivelent of formula one in sailing. Exciting, scary, come home after several hair raising capsizes at flat out and kiss the beach. Thats living.
Dangerous but do it anyway.
These are exciting times guys -- live fearlessly. :thumb_yello:

With Love Chris

[macleodmunro]

Hey guys, it's true, we all die at some point, one way or another.

But if we do want to survive in Scotland, then i hear Tomintoul is ment to be the highest place in the UK.
It's probably the safest bet.

I'm just not ready for that kind of commute to work.
Too sleepy in the mornings:lol3:

Peace from Paul.

[firstfruit]

Hi Shaun
all that you say is so. If we dont go one way we go another it would appear.
However if the sages in India are to be believed the date of your death is decided at moment of birth, so I may get run over by a bus tomorrow, you cant go before your suposed to, so Im not worried.

Scientist may have some of it right but they cant say for sure the hight of waves or when.
Spiritual is very practical because it frees one from fear. There is now within me a total belief that I am not the body, that I live on before and after birth and death. I have been in bodies that have died before I have not.

So wave or bus -- whats the difference? Dead is dead.
Free of fear is somthing else -- no fear and you can enjoy life to the full.
Who cares what may happen? Enjoy this moment.
Trust God but mind and lock the car.
If an oportunity to prepare for earth changes comes take it. Common sense rules. Ok

My current Avatar is the type of boat I used to race -- the equivelent of formula one in sailing. Exciting, scary, come home after several hair raising capsizes at flat out and kiss the beach. Thats living.
Dangerous but do it anyway.
These are exciting times guys -- live fearlessly. :thumb_yello:

With Love Chris


I could not agree more Chris.

I just hope next time around I get a bigger pecker more hair and a little more leg length lol. :zip:

[Sol Invictus]

LOL.

Well if I get run over by a bus tommorrow alot of folks will be real p#### off as I am still ahlf way through projects for them lol.

Any way, live a day on your feet a free man, or a life time on your knees as a slave?

I'm not being an 'after the fall' slave, not for any one, and I don't care if I have to live in a cave by the sea eating fish and catching birds for survival. seagull and fulmar is actually pretty tasty. Puffins not bad either.

[greybeard]

I think its great that Scottish humour is very much alive in this thread.
Chris

[firstfruit]

I think its great that Scottish humour is very much alive in this thread.
Chris

am sorry chris i just could not help my self :roll1:

[Sol Invictus]

I tried to rise above it. But I could only snigger like a school boy.

:lmfao:

Any how, hope your all well? and that the daily news isn't getting to you too much!

Good sale on at Woolies though.... going, going...... gone!:lmao:

[Sol Invictus]

You may have read or be about to read my heads up... i'll explain in depth on Sunday.

[Fina]

Macleodmunro & FirstFruit & Co- thank you for your kindness :)

I used to be an OT in a previous life, and was also, ironically, a home-carer for a lady with MS for 4 years, and then, a LSS/SEN Teacher {Vision} before I had to 'retire' - I became a Y.A.P at 38!! LOL

So- I have pretty good 'inside info' on how the system works... and how to make it work for me!

I really think / Believe the EMF / Rife Frequencies are what is helping me- my quality of life is sooo much better now than it was... pain? Virtually gone!
Appetite back- putting on weight at a rate of knots alarmingly... Sleeping all night, more energy- thanks also to the Baclofen Pump which means I can Walk using a fraction of the energy it took before!

I'm doing good :)


Sol & Shaun- I went through what you are going through... but, I now have hope for the planet. Freeman TV 'Darkside' left me with Hope in my heart, and more recently, Bob Dean's interview with Camelot- Very hopeful.

{They say South America / Southern Hemisphere would be best - Machu Pichu?? LOL}

Seriously, I have made my peace with the world, and know the only sure thing in life, is death. I am a 'Pagan-Spiritualist' {if there's such a thing??} and believe in an afterlife / Summerlands. I have had contact with Spirit over a lot of years, and fear not.

Admittedly, I have, stocked up on a few bits- but then it's sensible to keep stocked up, up here for a winter anyway :)
I only worry about my cats - what would happen to the old ones if I went? They're too old to hunt... I asked the young one if he'd fetch them in rabbits if needs be! :)


Chris- as long as the Irn Bru factory is high enough above sea level... Scottish sense of humour! LOL


Wish I lived closer and could make it along to a meet, but never mind.

Peace be with you all

Karen

[shaundelear]

Thanks for the thought Fina.

Best Wishes

[macleodmunro]

Hi Karen, glad to hear you're well clued in

Peace and love from Paul:thumb_yello:

[Sol Invictus]

Hi there.

Well, we had an awesome 'mini meet'. It was a real pleasure meeting those who were there.

And how doodly didn't the time fly?

Won't bore you with a write up because it would take weeks and weeks worth of typing just to cover one hours chat!

Thanks for the :welcomeani: and I hope I didn't :sleep_1: you too much.

Sol.

[Sol Invictus]

Hi Scottish Ground Crew


Great to have you guys here in one place. I read you already had a meeting - wayhay!! Would love to come to the next one.

love jenali11 xxx

Hi jenali, I would totaly recommend it to you. Great bunch of people and very sociable too. ;) don't eat all the grapes like I did though....

More the merrier from a survival stand point to be honest, and if and when the ships hit the pan the more hands the better.

[greybeard]

Hi All
we had an interesting evening ( Scottish understatement)
Not much can be said here really but a lot of food for thought.
I wil get more grapes for next local get together:mfr_lol:
Lots of love Chris

[Sol Invictus]

Hahahahaha well...... you should never say 'help yourself' when feeding the multitudes! Even JC himself gave out the food and didn't shout 'BUNDLE!':mfr_lol:

Any how, thanks for the very pleasent evening, and I agree that next time i'll bring oranges and biscuits too. :groupwave:

[firstfruit]

I concur.

it was as good as any Camelot interview very interesting lots of discernment required listen with the body not the head.

Well in to the mini meet some sort of energy entered our presence this I have felt before but this time someone else felt it too.

Very very interesting evening


Lak-ech

[Sol Invictus]

Got to agree 100% FF. Nice chilld evening, great company, really nice to bounce ideas and experiences off each other.

Great night, will email you. :)

Sol.

[Delphi]

Home again!
Thanks for a really great evening, inspiring and funny and thought provoking. And Sol you did not get all the grapes!
Driving back last night saw only the second live badger I've ever seen.
Thanks Chris for feeding us and for the blessings on my journeys. Both really easy.
Looking forward to the next full meeting asap in the New Year
love to all

[Sol Invictus]

Hey hi there :)

Glad to see you got home all ok.

:thumb_yello:

Saw a badger on the journey home? thats pretty cool - They are beautiful creatures. Lucky you.

[greybeard]

Home again!
Thanks for a really great evening, inspiring and funny and thought provoking. And Sol you did not get all the grapes!
Driving back last night saw only the second live badger I've ever seen.
Thanks Chris for feeding us and for the blessings on my journeys. Both really easy.
Looking forward to the next full meeting asap in the New Year
love to all

Was a pleasure to have your company into the wee small hours.
Was thinking about your journey home a hoping the weather was ok.
Love to you + Sol and Rab -- all with big hearts.
Chris

[Sol Invictus]

Am glad I had a few hours during the day to grab some shut eye! Then it was up with the christmas tree, on with the Jonny Mathis CD and decorating bits and pieces.

All together now...... ' Come they told me par ruppah bumm bumm, a new born King to be par ruppah bumm bumm... I have no gift for him par ruppah bumm bumm, ruppah bumm bumm ruppah bumm bumm.... I played my drum for him par ruppah bumm bumm, ruppah bumm bum...'

Tone deaf, voice like a scalded pink in a blender, but heck, i'll give it a blast any way.... :)

[panpravda]

Hello Everyone ...

I'm new here ... been lurking for a few days, so I guess it's time to walk out from behind the bushes :original:

I may not contribute much to this forum in the short term as I have much to do here, but I look forward to meaningful discussions, and possibly, to come along to a future meeting.

My warm regards to all from Prestwick in Ayrshire.

Pan.

[greybeard]

Hello Everyone ...

I'm new here ... been lurking for a few days, so I guess it's time to walk out from behind the bushes :original:

I may not contribute much to this forum in the short term as I have much to do here, but I look forward to meaningful discussions, and possibly, to come along to a future meeting.

My warm regards to all from Prestwick in Ayrshire.

Pan.

Welcome Pan
Drop in anytime and it will be good to have you at one of our meetings

Regards chris

[Sol Invictus]

Hello Everyone ...

I'm new here ... been lurking for a few days, so I guess it's time to walk out from behind the bushes :original:

I may not contribute much to this forum in the short term as I have much to do here, but I look forward to meaningful discussions, and possibly, to come along to a future meeting.

My warm regards to all from Prestwick in Ayrshire.

Pan.

Welcome.

You'll enjoy the meeting up :)

Welcome to the forum too - see you on the boards. Sol

[panpravda]

Thanks Chris and Sol ...

I've read through a number of previous posts in this thread, so I think I've got at least a 'sense' of the variety of project Avalon members contributing here. I'll say a little about myself and my thoughts for all ...

I'm 54; happily married for 30 years; two healthy sons currently working in France ... then there's Stanley, our four legged friend.

Personally ...

... I grew up in a small Ayrshire mining village
... Been involved in mainly technical work throughout my life, including teaching
... I have more of a practical bent than an academic one
... My hobbies ... amateur radio, electronics, astronomy/cosmology
... I worked as a volunteer in Africa in my earlier years
... Been running my own IT services business here for 17 years (one-man-band)
... Have worked in the US, Ireland, Czech Republic

I've reached a stage now, where I feel I want to absorb as much as I can about what lies ahead in the next few years for all of us. I care greatly about my family, and I've been working carefully on how I can/should present to them the information I now possess about 2012 and a number of other related subjects. I am concerned about the practical steps that will be prudent to take over the next few years, and I am also concerned about the quality of the information that seems to be doing its rounds in this regard.

There is a definite case for 'quietly focussed preparation,' as you mentioned in your introductory post Sol. In my view, for a journey of this nature to be ultimately successful, I think that it will come down to a dedicated group of people with relevant skills, having the focus to prepare and execute a well thought out plan. I believe that the goal of communal strength, resilience, and cooperation can be achieved in this way. Like you have said Chris, it's important to be level headed.

Like most people, I am surrounded by the trappings of 21st century life, but time and determination will change that ... there's always a way.

I have a couple of questions ...

... what information sources would people strongly recommend?
... what are the areas of discussion the people think are important to have about becoming organised?

With respect ... Pan (Tom)

[greybeard]

Hi Pan
This forum I find helpfull.
http://stclairzone.ning.com/

You cant join now but a lot to read.

Speaking of which

Spiritual books
"The New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle

"Power versus Force" and "The Eye of the I" both by Dr David Hawkins.

The raising of consiousness is happening just now and its parmount to our survival, in my humble opinion. A rising tide lifts all boats.

Think its best to tell people only what they can readily accept to begin with.

Most dont really need to know about those who would have a new world order at any cost. The end does not justify the means.

It makes sense to have extra food in -- it makes sense to be as self sufficient as posible, it makes sense to move to higher ground as the sea is rising etc.
Your skills and experience will be of great help to all at Scottish Ground Crew.

Regards Chris

[Delphi]

Hi everyone and welcome Pan
I read through your list of skills Pan and I remember what the others have said at the meetings (and I remember the HUGE sense of achievement I felt when at the age of 30 I actually managed to change a plug) and I try to think of any practical skills that I have and I am mentally saying 'oh ****!'

So a small and slightly flippant plea that the qualifications for community entry are not practical assessments.

I do make good bread however!

love to all

PS I love the image of the rising tide lifting all boats. Thanks Chris

[panpravda]

Thanks for the information Chris, and thanks for your welcome Delphi …

I’ve been wondering what words to use to respond here, and I’ve decided it’s right for me to say this …

I’m new to this forum and I intend being respectful. I have an inherent need to be as open as I possibly can be in circles that I judge trustworthy. If my natural instincts say that I should accept what comes to me, then I tend to do this rapidly and move on, feeling secure. I most likely have views that others would disagree with, that’s human and natural, so I’ll mention up-front that things I say in the forum could come across as, at odds with, or, controversial in some way. However, my intention is and always will be, to listen to and consider the opinion of others and to speak openly and honestly from the heart … anything other than this diminishes my own words and dishonours the other party.

I understand and agree with what you have said Chris. I believe that some of the toughest decisions and actions we’ll ever face, lie ahead of us, but I have a special feeling inside that everything will turn out okay in the long run for humanity. This thought comes from my ultimate belief in the good within people. I’m not the world’s best socialiser, but I do enjoy and have benefited from, the company of honourable people. I find that they bring much more than what the material world presents to us.

I am not religious in any traditional sense, and I haven’t read any ‘spiritual’ type books in my life, but I have paid attention to people who have had deep and meaningful things to say about the human race and why we’re all here. I have little time for the particular language and behaviours that have evolved within spiritualist type movements, for I think we should be able to communicate our inner feelings adequately enough with the basic abilities we already have. I believe that people who say 'they think in a new way,’ may have been caught up over the years in a tide of conformity with a style of behaviour and communication that actually turns many people off, so can therefore be counter-productive.

Delphi … I’ve recently turned my attention to honing my basic skills in the kitchen, and I think I’m doing not too badly. Over the years, I’ve suffered a bit from the produce of ‘the Czech kitchen!’ because my wife is originally Czech and an excellent cook and baker. My in-laws stay close to us here too, so given that my wife learned her skills from her mother, my mother-in-law, there’s been a cuddly expansion of my waistline over many years of deliciously minor abuse! And … I just love still slightly warm home-baked bread! … and ... I even have to admit to swapping recipes now!

I’ll wrap this short rambling up here.

With respect … Tom.

[firstfruit]

Thanks for the information Chris, and thanks for your welcome Delphi …

I’ve been wondering what words to use to respond here, and I’ve decided it’s right for me to say this …

I’m new to this forum and I intend being respectful. I have an inherent need to be as open as I possibly can be in circles that I judge trustworthy. If my natural instincts say that I should accept what comes to me, then I tend to do this rapidly and move on, feeling secure. I most likely have views that others would disagree with, that’s human and natural, so I’ll mention up-front that things I say in the forum could come across as, at odds with, or, controversial in some way. However, my intention is and always will be, to listen to and consider the opinion of others and to speak openly and honestly from the heart … anything other than this diminishes my own words and dishonours the other party.

I understand and agree with what you have said Chris. I believe that some of the toughest decisions and actions we’ll ever face, lie ahead of us, but I have a special feeling inside that everything will turn out okay in the long run for humanity. This thought comes from my ultimate belief in the good within people. I’m not the world’s best socialiser, but I do enjoy and have benefited from, the company of honourable people. I find that they bring much more than what the material world presents to us.

I am not religious in any traditional sense, and I haven’t read any ‘spiritual’ type books in my life, but I have paid attention to people who have had deep and meaningful things to say about the human race and why we’re all here. I have little time for the particular language and behaviours that have evolved within spiritualist type movements, for I think we should be able to communicate our inner feelings adequately enough with the basic abilities we already have. I believe that people who say 'they think in a new way,’ may have been caught up over the years in a tide of conformity with a style of behaviour and communication that actually turns many people off, so can therefore be counter-productive.

Delphi … I’ve recently turned my attention to honing my basic skills in the kitchen, and I think I’m doing not too badly. Over the years, I’ve suffered a bit from the produce of ‘the Czech kitchen!’ because my wife is originally Czech and an excellent cook and baker. My in-laws stay close to us here too, so given that my wife learned her skills from her mother, my mother-in-law, there’s been a cuddly expansion of my waistline over many years of deliciously minor abuse! And … I just love still slightly warm home-baked bread! … and ... I even have to admit to swapping recipes now!

I’ll wrap this short rambling up here.

With respect … Tom.



Hi there and welcome tom - panpravda

Very nice qualities to you I feel already sir so grateful you joined us

What you have said resonates with me a good place to be is in the heart.

Skills will help you but the heart will save you

Lak-ech my friend

[greybeard]

Thanks for sharing Tom.
Spiritual is as spiritual does ie its not about language -- belief systems.
Being kind and considerate is the essence of it -- thats just about all you need.

While I get on well with most people im basically a loner -- I dont really need people, though this is turning out to be a different ball game.

Funnily enough inspite of that I seem to have ended up in leadership situations throughout my life. Nobody else wanted the job :mfr_lol:

Delphi
I wouldent worry - you have skills aplenty as do the others in SGC.
Infact a great variety of abilities here.

Regards to all Chris

[Sol Invictus]

:badmood:

Yep. Its official. I am in a bad mood. Being VERY CASH poor at Christmas sucks (But I am loved, warm and filled with light so youtr right delphi, its not that bad). Being a new jobless at christmas sucks. Knowing a friend inadvertantly led peoples I was trying to avoid to my area sucks. Knowing that now all forms of employment will be hard to get sucks (yes if you tread on toes, references are mighty hard to come by).

:badmood:

Be back in a few weeks. If I don't see any of you before online have a very merry Christmas.

Sol Invictus.



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[greybeard]

HI Sol
sorry to hear your news.
IT CAN ONLY GET BETTER.
Oops wasent shouting just pressed wrong key.
Take care.
Chris

[panpravda]

Thanks for the welcome Rab … and thanks Chris for reminding us that it all comes back to ourselves, you too Rab.

These days, I have a sense of contented confidence and an inner feeling of knowing myself that allows me to believe that wonderful things will happen some day. Good people should feel they are already part of a much greater good, and that they always will be. I like what you said in post #158 Chris (as I interpreted it) about us all being at different stages of the same journey. This kind of thinking sums things up nicely for me – it’s a simple and attractive concept.

Chin up Sol ... I know that's an easy statement to make, but there's one thing I believe you can take to the Bank ... and that's the genuine caring thoughts that other members of the SGC have for your frustrations.

Again it's an easy thing to say, but try and think happy thoughts and laugh at the small things that go wrong to keep them in perspective. Continually replaying negative stuff in your head leads to stress and illness - I can tell you.

Tom.

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
Thanks guys for reassurances that there are skills other than the practical ones.
Sol you are in my thoughts since I read your post. There's all the difference between being CASH poor and BEING poor. You may be the first (in which case join the club!!!) You are most certainly not the second. I suspect it's the friend's inadvertence that has really ****** (irritated) you. May the dark cloud lift very soon.
love to all

[Sol Invictus]

I was sat in an easy chair, just thinking about a few things, really relaxed and 'just justing' as I call it, when the world, every thing around me turns into this golden 'cloth'. Nothing was seperate, everything was part of this 'fabric' including myself, and I was just like

I sat staring at everything and my wife walked across the room and it was like watching a huge wave move across the surface of the ocean - big, moving, but still part of the ocean even though it was its own 'wave'.

I was just 'there' watching all of this when it happend.

'I' watched as this thing so bright it was jet black 'stepped' out of me. I was watching it as it looked back at me. It looked around the room and placed its hand into the 'fabric', and then lifted it up and the fabric flowed through its fingers like fine sand.

I wasn't afraid of this 'person', they were just incredulous as I was at the fabric and the light - It dipped its hand again into the fabric, then I felt this tremendous release of energy from it and an overwhelming feeling that this being had found some thing it had searched for for a long long time and was finally able to 'be'. It then turned into small drops of light and faded upwards and vanished.

I then felt a shudder / shiver pass through me and looked about. The room had gone back to normal and my wife was sat on the sofa looking at me.

I tried to explain what i saw, and she was like 'yes, I saw him, it was like he used you as a bridge to cross from where he was to where he wanted to be'.


I just don't know what to say, apart from I feel renewed, refreshed, revitalised and In short, I feel fantastic.

Sol.


Posted this today in spirituality.

I am to be honest at a loss. My wife saw this 'so bright they were dark' being 'in' me just below the surface, and then rise off me but as she didn't see the 'fabric' lost it as it left my person. When i say 'in' me, my wife said it was like she was looking down a tunnel at me, another me, andother me stretching off into the distance, and this 'so bright they were pitch black' being was one person down just below the surface of the 'real' me.

I know... its left me going '?!?'

[Delphi]

oh Sol you're asking me to do something that's actually quite difficult, given where i am at in the writing of the current novel (which is where the central character takes the shadow into himself that he spends the rest of the story freeing himself from)

I know we all have/carry subpersonalities. archetypes, and entities that influence our behaviour, guides and guardians eg in my case a silver dragon that two friends of mine have seen though I haven't and a big cat (sometimes a tiger sometimes a black panther) that i feel especially when i dance. i have a feeling the being/energy that you and your wife saw is connected to the being/energy that protected you in the hill and the wall incidents you described last Sunday.

Researching walk-ins may be helpful given how completely you have retracked your life, though your NDE might have had the same effect as a walk-in. It may have been one or both that redirected you.

AND this is all about phenomena. One of the two gifts I received in the long morass that is Kerry's interview with James of wingmakers was the reminder of how we humans avoid the void that is in us all, yet to realize who we truly are I believe we do have to come to terms with the emptiness/unmanifest. In other words you have received tremendous gifts in the experience you had today and in the incidents you described on Sunday. Enjoy them, be grateful for them, know that some of us (ie me) would be envious if that was an acceptable emotion(!) and don't become so attached to them that you stop looking beyond them.

Hey, how I like to be asked to preach!!!
Hope this is useful.

love to all
PS I meant also to say something about taking it to heart being more important than defining it with the head and I am a fine one to talk!

[Sol Invictus]

Hey Delphi.

The advice you gave me was excellent. Thank you.

Sol Invictus.

[panpravda]

Sol/ Delphi ...

Sorry to intrude in your exchange here. You two seem to have a special level of feeling for each others thoughts and emotions.

I just wanted to say to you Delphi, that I believe your reference to the interview from James of WingMakers, is one that others should take particular note of. For myself, I spent most of yesterday reading it and absorbing what it really meant for me and mine. It has been a profound experience, perhaps even an epiphany - I've got to allow time to absorb it all.

For those that have not come across it yet, here's the link:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html

(It can also be downloaded as a .pdf file from that page - perhaps more convenient.)

Warm regards ... Tom.

[greybeard]

Hi Sol
Very happy for you.
Every moment there is an opportunity to choose between fear or peace (Love)
No doubt you will now find that choice easier.
There is no enemy.
"Nothing is either good or bad till thinking makes it so."
You are indeed fortunate Sol.
You have had a lot of stagnent energy lifted from you.
A lot of blocks to your spiritual progress have been removed in my humble opinon.
You will now find that life is flowing for you in a posiitive manner.
There may still be challenges but you now have even more ability to deal with these.

Love Chris

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
Thought I'd share this as it's relevant to me and maybe to others here. http://www.nvisible.com/
scroll down to the December surf report

To Pan - no intrusion whatsoever! glad Kerry's interview with James marks an epiphany for you.

To Chris - I really have to drum into my system that nothing is good or bad until thinking makes it so. your wisdom is much appreciated

To Sol - thanks

love to all

[greybeard]

Hi everyone
Thought I'd share this as it's relevant to me and maybe to others here. http://www.nvisible.com/
scroll down to the December surf report

To Pan - no intrusion whatsoever! glad Kerry's interview with James marks an epiphany for you.

To Chris - I really have to drum into my system that nothing is good or bad until thinking makes it so. your wisdom is much appreciated

To Sol - thanks

love to all

Yes its all change my friend.
My friend Rosaline moves in with me this month so cigars in the living room coming to an end -- she dosent mind rollups though --smiling.
Much Love
Chris

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
I'd really appreciate some advice.
W my 16 year old son has experienced a lot of bullying between home and school. He usually walks alone as his mates live out of the town. Since he grew so tall the bullying diminished until today he got knocked done by 7 or so 4th years. He is more angry than hurt but does not want me to interfere - according to him the school won't do anything when incidents are off school ground and at one point in the past one of the lads who was consistently teasing/bullying him was on the school's anti-bullying council. He doesn't know any of the lads who assaulted him today by name.
I am in a real dilemma. Obviously I want to support him. He doesn't want me to talk to authority of any kind and for Avalonian reasons I do not much trust external authorities.
He is too much my son in some ways ie a maverick and we live in a rugby town where 'boys will be boys.'
Short of providing him with the AK47 he wishes he had (!) any ideas?
How can any of us meet violence effectively without escalation of violence?

To Chris All the best to you and Rosaleen. I'm not sure if I'd ever cohabit again!! Please wish her all the best for her new job.

love to all (with the temporary exception of the lads who hit my son. I wish I could talk to them about interconnectedness)

[greybeard]

Hi everyone

How can any of us meet violence effectively without escalation of violence?

To Chris All the best to you and Rosaleen. I'm not sure if I'd ever cohabit again!! Please wish her all the best for her new job.

love to all (with the temporary exception of the lads who hit my son. I wish I could talk to them about interconnectedness)


Im so sorry to hear this my friend.
I experienced bullying at school -- not plesant.
I retaliated just the once when I was 13 and floored the perpetrater and that was an end to it.
However I dont recomend that course of action.
If your son changes his way of thinking it may help.
If he is expecting in anyway to be bullied that energy can attract what he is apprehensive off.
His self talk can change future events.
He needs to walk tall so to speak.
No head down.
If you look in anyway timid then you are an easy target.
Not confrontational either.
It may not happen again.
Lets hope so.
You can sen Reiki or prayers to the future to protect him.
They must be positive and present tense.
ie My son --(name) is all ways safe and secure -- his every step is guided.
See him strong and confident.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for your good wishes.
Much love Chris

[shaundelear]

Hi everyone
I'd really appreciate some advice.
W my 16 year old son has experienced a lot of bullying between home and school. He usually walks alone as his mates live out of the town. Since he grew so tall the bullying diminished until today he got knocked done by 7 or so 4th years. He is more angry than hurt but does not want me to interfere - according to him the school won't do anything when incidents are off school ground and at one point in the past one of the lads who was consistently teasing/bullying him was on the school's anti-bullying council. He doesn't know any of the lads who assaulted him today by name.
I am in a real dilemma. Obviously I want to support him. He doesn't want me to talk to authority of any kind and for Avalonian reasons I do not much trust external authorities.
He is too much my son in some ways ie a maverick and we live in a rugby town where 'boys will be boys.'
Short of providing him with the AK47 he wishes he had (!) any ideas?
How can any of us meet violence effectively without escalation of violence?

To Chris All the best to you and Rosaleen. I'm not sure if I'd ever cohabit again!! Please wish her all the best for her new job.

love to all (with the temporary exception of the lads who hit my son. I wish I could talk to them about interconnectedness)

I empathize with both of you -it's not nice to hear.
It's easy for us to say rise above it -turn the other cheek but he has to live with the fear of it happening again and you are going to worry.
How he handels this now will shape his confidence for life.
The thing about bullies is they dont believe there will be any consquences.
If his friends cant back him up and he is truley alone he must stand.
If the bullying is heavily physical you must assist him.
A self defence class would be top of my list .
Inform the instructor and he will help.
Kickboxing saved me.No karate or taekwondo.
It must be contact.Training will desensitise him and build confidence.
In a rugby town the lads will be physical and "rutting" flexing their muscles and learning to be young men, it's part of growing up.
I think I met your son?
He seemed a nice lad its a shame they are testing him.
There are loads of ways for him to deal with this himself but it's his test.
Show him other options only if it gets really bad.
The last thing you want to do is involve police -his life will be "tarred"
If you get desperate phone me and I will tell you some "black" ways to deal with bullies, don't really want to post them!

Feel the love

[panpravda]

Hi Delphi ...

I'm so sorry to know that your son is going through this just now. It will be a transient thing, but it won't seem like that in his own mind. My own two sons experienced this type of behaviour at school too, but I'm glad to say that it was short-lived and left no scars - mental or physical.

I think that you're getting some sound advice from the others. The only worthwhile way for your son to deal with this issue, now and for the future, will be via his own thoughts and actions. Shaundelear's words regarding self-defence are sound, and anything he learns via that route will stay with him, which is especially important.

All I can offer is my own supportive thoughts for you as you guide your son through this.

Pan.

[Delphi]

Thank you guys so much!
I did talk to W last night after I'd read your post Chris and when W gets philosophical which he often does around midnight! He was willing to listen to me making suggestions about how to visualise protection around himself.
Shaun thanks for the reminder this is his test and for the offer of a conversation! You may well hear from W! he has always so far resisted the idea of self-defence classes - now may be different.
Pan it's really reassuring to know your sons have no permanent scars, though it's sad how many people do get bullied.
love to all

[panpravda]

Delphi ... me again ...

Here's something I was given a long time ago. You probably are well aware of and practice this, but it's a nice summary that I though I should share ...

If a child lives with ……… then they will learn …………..

Criticism ................................ to Condemn
Hostility ................................. to Fight
Ridicule .................................. to be Shy
Shame ................................... to feel Guilt
Tolerance ............................... to be Patient
Encouragement ..................... to be Confident
Praise .................................... to Appreciate
Fairness ................................ about Justice
Security ................................. to have Faith
Approval ................................ to like themselves
Acceptance and Friendship .... to find love in the world

Pan.

[Sol Invictus]

He is too much my son in some ways ie a maverick and we live in a rugby town where 'boys will be boys.'
Short of providing him with the AK47 he wishes he had (!) any ideas?
How can any of us meet violence effectively without escalation of violence?



PM me.

[menalli]

hi,

Im relatively new to this forum and am looking for a bit of advice. Is there anyone who can help me in regards to raising my level of consiousness as i am unsure of where to start? Also is anyone aware of the indigo adult/children
phenomena as i myself have most of the characteristics attributed to them.

thanks

:original:

[Sol Invictus]

Welcome menalli - others here will be better to advise you on those issues, as I am more a 'survivalistic' type.

However, I do send greetings and if I can ever help you out I will do so :)

Sol.

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
Thanks for PMs Sol.
welcome Menalli. For indigos, and a very gentle spirituality check out Celia Fenn's site starchild global. sorry it's too late at night for me to find the actual link but google works fine. She has contact with the being that a less respectful acquaintance of mine used to refer to as Micky Baby.
I'm not totally convinced by the labels indigos/crystals/rainbows, but i do feel very strongly that some of us bring through more of our learning/experience from previous lives than others, and there are children who have brought through far far more than i did.
you'll read it time and time over, the only voice that matters is the voice of your own heart.
Kerry's latest interview with Marcia Schafer on Camelot is good too.
love to all

[Delphi]

Hi everyone
Thanks for PMs Sol.
welcome Menalli. For indigos, and a very gentle spirituality check out Celia Fenn's site starchild global. sorry it's too late at night for me to find the actual link but google works fine. She has contact with the being that a less respectful acquaintance of mine used to refer to as Micky Baby.
I'm not totally convinced by the labels indigos/crystals/rainbows, but i do feel very strongly that some of us bring through more of our learning/experience from previous lives than others, and there are children who have brought through far far more than i did.
you'll read it time and time over, the only voice that matters is the voice of your own heart.
Kerry's latest interview with Marcia Schafer on Camelot is good too.
love to all
Forgot to add thanks Pan for the list. Oh dear, there are as many crosses as ticks. well almost.

[greybeard]

hi,

Im relatively new to this forum and am looking for a bit of advice. Is there anyone who can help me in regards to raising my level of consiousness as i am unsure of where to start? Also is anyone aware of the indigo adult/children
phenomena as i myself have most of the characteristics attributed to them.

thanks

:original:

Welcome to our little band of fellow travelers menalli.
There are many paths so it depends where you are just now.
If your spiritual goal is enlightenment then mainly spend time reading those who have experienced it, they are not talking about it they are it.
Any book by Eckhart Tolle would be good in particular " A New Earth"

This is a link re Indigo.
Doreen Virtue.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2ilMbIDTmd0&feature=PlayList&p=9F340C5D1ED159F3&index=0&playnext=1
If you want to e mail me feel free.
You might not get a reply till monday as im not online much at the weekend
Regards Chris
Regards Chris

[greybeard]

Welcome menalli - others here will be better to advise you on those issues, as I am more a 'survivalistic' type.

However, I do send greetings and if I can ever help you out I will do so :)

Sol.

Hi Sol
everything has its place.
I dont mind not surviving as Im old and grey:mfr_lol:
Well fairly old - smiling.
However spirituality is about living peacfully and harmoniously with others and with out survival its irelevent.
Hope all well with you.
You havent had it easy of late.
Chris

[panpravda]

Hello Menalli ...

I am also new to this forum, so 'welcome' from me too. I have been heartened by the open and friendly nature of the group here, and I'm sure you'll receive meaningful responses to your questions. I can't contribute anything about Indigo adult/children, as I'm currently unaware of what that reference means, but I'll now have a look. In terms of general information and process recommendations regarding raising your own consciousness goes, I'll leave that to those here who have more experience. My own journey so far has been strangely ordinary, in that one bit of investigation/ learning/ discovery/ enlightenment, has uncovered an introduction to the next. I've done this on my own, and I can't recall an actual starting place, as everything just seemed to start falling into place as I began to join the dots for myself.

Warm regards ... Pan.

[menalli]

Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.

I have been aware for some time that something was not quite right on our planet. Over the last year or so, i have, just like yourself Pan started to join up the dots regarding what on the surface seem to be unconnected events in our history which led me to the issue of spirituality and the raising of our collective consiousness. Hopefully if we can attain this knowledge it will aid us all in our survival.

More than likely most of you have been on the Project Camelot site and have
watched most of the interviews as I have myself. All the interviews give us a good insight of whats going on in the world. A couple of days ago i came across a website by a guy called james casbolt regarding his experiences with mi6 and project mannequin. His knowledge of what is going on seems to be quite extensive as well as being from a more british perspective. Maybe some of you are already aware of him if not give it a look.

peace and light

[Sol Invictus]

James Casbolt. Now that IS synchronistic.

I am in the process of 'asking a few questions' regarding that very same gentleman.

Tread VERY careful because I have a very large slice of intuition that this particular gentleman falls into one of three catergories.

A) he is a baited 'goat' to reel in experiencers of both esotoric and technological experimentation and he himslef doesn't know it

B) he knows he is a bait, and is active in reeling people in.

C) he lives the most charmed of lives and has lived the life he has protected from instant termination by powers higher than he knows for reasons unknown.

I have my own thoughts, and the above is my own personal 'feelings' about him and those around him and not anything official or documented. However, to me he screams BAIT! and makes me very wary indeed.

[Sol Invictus]

One thing however to bear in mind.

Mind control is very real. Documented, proven research has found that governments have actively sought ways to make people act against their wills or in a way favourable to the governments wishes AND have tested it on humans to a very large success rate.

[menalli]

Hi Sol

Thanks for your feedback regarding James Casbolt. I noticed that you have asked the Watcher a question regarding three different symbols, are you aware of the fact James Casbolt claims to be a friend/aquintance of Barry King? Do you have any idea yourself of the relenvance of these symbols?