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Ampgod

10-17-2008, 06:13 PM

Dadrious

10-17-2008, 06:43 PM

* What would be the reason behind an entire real alien race all being the same colors?

Peace,
Ampgod

Because they are not a mix of 22 different alien species like us?

clarkkent

10-17-2008, 06:52 PM

i covered this topic in previous threads if your interested

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5411

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3848

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2126

BeaTnik-BandiT

10-17-2008, 07:10 PM

jimbobrosso

10-17-2008, 07:16 PM

Is that why us red heads get a hart time then????

zorgon

10-17-2008, 11:03 PM

The Red Haired (more rare) are their best choice.

I have yet to meet a redhead that can be controlled :tongue2:

Feisty little critters

zorgon

10-17-2008, 11:07 PM

Does that not sound like what the Nazi's wanted to create?
Blonde Hair Blue Eyed race? Why Blonde? Why Blue Eyed?

Do you recall when NASA sent Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 out to the Stars?... they sent them in opposite directions...

One each one there was a plaque to identify the home world...

This plaque was designed by CARL SAGAN

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Pioneer_plaque.svg/763px-Pioneer_plaque.svg.png

So any Alien world getting this message... will know that this planet appears to have only ONE race... Tall Blond and perfect...

Funny no one raised a stink about that:mfr_omg:

GoingToFast

10-17-2008, 11:19 PM

For the PTBs, one race would be easier to control, better if they are Blue Eyed Blond and Red haired. They prefer these genetics because these are the easier to control.
The Red Haired (more rare) are their best choice.

(Read Blue Blood True Blood from Stuart Swerdlow)

take care.

What the **********. are you people talking about this topic is one of the dumbest on the hole Avalon forum . BeaTnik-BandiT, have you ever heard of the Irish and schottisch people, they are of celtic descent red-heard and blue ore green eyes, I can tell you one thing they are NOT easily controlled.

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zorgon

10-18-2008, 12:03 AM

Don't forget that Hilter was heavily into the occult and spend millions of dollars and many peoples lives on search out the Ancient Aryan Gods...

The Aryans were all over Europe and Asia into India.

In China recently there were graves rediscovered that contained tall Aryan mummies. I say rediscovered because the Chinese when they first found these did not want it known that these White graves existed so they made the area their nuclear test site. As luck would have it... the graves survived..

In India the Aryan Gods of the Vedic scripture are well known. they were White... whiter than what we call 'white' today

The Gods of Greece, of Rome, Of Persia, of Egypt, of Sumeria, of Isreal, of the Norsemen... all were Aryan Gods...

All were tall and powerful... all fitting the 'Nordic' type of Aliens.

There is also one other feature of most of these groups of Gods... the strange Alien creatures that are depicted along with the 'normal' white gods...
India we have the Elephant head, double arms and a Blue skinned God
Egypt we have Horus, Anubis and others with animal heads but normal white bodies and one Green skinned God, Osiris

The Sumerians had several animal head Gods, but again on normal white strong bodies

http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergodstree.jpg

All through Eurasia the story is the same. This is what Hitler noticed and sought to recreate... even though he himself did not fit the bill.

What this would indicate is that sometime in the past we were indeed visited by an Aryan/Nordic type race in the past. With their strength and high tech they would easily have been considered Gods... and most likely took advantage of that.

Then later in the development of the NAZI program we get the interaction of the VRIL society and the THULE or "Black Sun" society

The main key figure in the VRIL society Alien connection was Marija Oršić (yup Blond and Blue eyed)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/04images/Maria/maria-orsic.jpg

She was a medium who had contact with Aldebarran where she got the secrets for the NAZI UFO's from. There was a second medium known only as Traute A.. These two were the key to the saucers.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/04images/Maria/traute.jpg

FYI Contrary to popular belief the VRIL society still exists today
http://www.psi-korps.de/

Then the next part of the saga continues after WWII in America

1952 George Adamski had contact with a Venusian called Orthon. This is the painting he drew of her

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Venusians/adamski1.jpg

1956 Howard Menger had contact with a Venusian. Here is a sketch of his Venusian Friend according to Howard Menger

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Venusians/howard02.jpg

1959 Pentagon Washington... Three people allegedly from Venus had meetings with the President. They were Jill Donn and Valiant Thor...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Venusians/vthor1a.jpg

After the war the US Army brought 580 NAZI Scientists to America... most were stationed an Fort Bliss in Texas

Here is the Rocket Science group. Von Braun is 7th from left hand in pocket
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Nazi/Braun_Group.jpg
After the war, 118 German rocket scientists worked together at Fort Bliss, Texas. (U.S. ARMY AVIATION AND MISSILE COMMAND)

On this day... under Operation Paperclip, the US Government made the decision that it was OKAY to lie to its citizens 'for the greater good' (which in this case was creating weapons of mass destruction)

Excerpt...

Intelligence and government officials faced a delicate moral quandary in 1945 - whether it was worth it to give American homes to men who had invented weapons to kill American soldiers, men who in some cases subscribed to beliefs that hundreds of thousands Americans had died to eradicate. In the end they decided it was, if these men could help the United States defeat the Soviets.

—Christine Gibson is a former editor at American Heritage magazine.

American Heritage Magazine (http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/web/20051116-nazi-operation-overcast-harry-truman-henry-morgenthau-allies-japan-ussr-scientists-missile-sputnik-apollo-immigration_print.shtml)

Prescott Bush, the Rockefellars and Standard Oil with the Union Bank funded the NAZI into power. This is now history and charges of dealling with the enemy were filed and sanctions placed

Today Bush and the Rockefellars still rule... and Standard Oil? They are now Chevron and Exxon

Exxon recorded RECORD EVER quarter profits in the first year of the Iraqi 'war', while the world shelled out more at the gas pumps 'because of the war'... even though OPEC lower barrel prices for fear of what we would do... AND the fact that we NEVER bought a drop of oil from Iraq to begin with

NWO you say?

HA Olde Worlde Order 'doing business as usual...

One last comment...

LOOK TO DUBAI

zorgon

10-18-2008, 12:08 AM

Wouldn't they abduct people to make themselves look like a space race?

There are many people who think the NAZI saucers ended up first in Antarctica and then somewhere in South America and that George Adamski and Howard and others were abducted by NAZI's not Aliens...

Interesting theory as a lot of war criminals did escape to Argentina and Operation Highjump was real

Personally I would rather deal with Nordic Aliens then Grey's, Reptilians OR NAZI's... they seem more pleasant:lmao:

GoingToFast

10-18-2008, 12:26 AM

The main key figure in the VRIL society Alien connection was Marija Oršić (yup Blond and Blue eyed)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/04images/Maria/maria-orsic.jpg

Let me tell-ya, that is one BEATIFULL fascist-oppressor.

Stephen

10-18-2008, 04:05 AM

Zorgon...You NEVER fail to make me 'think'. Thank you for forcing me to use what few Brain Cells I have left. :D

BeaTnik-BandiT

10-18-2008, 04:40 AM

What the **********. are you people talking about this topic is one of the dumbest on the hole Avalon forum . BeaTnik-BandiT, have you ever heard of the Irish and schottisch people, they are of celtic descent red-heard and blue ore green eyes, I can tell you one thing they are NOT easily controlled.

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Ok GoingToFast, I understand your reaction.
It's not a matter of one race better than the other. Far from that.
I had to clarify my thoughts, sorry for that.
Read on you will understand.

It has to do with human genetic manipulation.
In the opinion of many reseachers, the history books you read at school regarding the human evolution is mostly BS. (See Lloyd Pye)

Now, I am going to speak on behalf of Swerdlow's work, so i will be careful:

He says that us humans on earth are 'mostly' of Lyraen descent.
The Lyrean genetics were The Blond/Red Haired Blue/Green eyes.
Those genetics were mixed with those of a reptilian race. The frame of this new breed was reptilian. (See the book excerpts down here)
Our percentage of reptilian DNA is well under 20% in most cases.
In total, we have the genetics of 12 humanoid factions with one reptilian.
Many other further experiments from other humanoid factions followed, thats why you get all these differents races here on Earth today.

He says the earth was first (don't fall off your chair) inhabited by this same reptilian species, and that the first human in the solar system were renegades from Lyra (The Atlans), and inhabited (don't fall off your chair again) Mars and Maldek (the latter being the missing planet in the solar system, see the asteroid belt)

- Note: Michael Tsarion says that Mars was an outpost of the Atlans as well -
(His book: Atlantis, Alien visitation and genetic manipulation)

WHY MIND CONTROL ?

It seems that Illuminati families bloodlines have a 50% reptilian/human Lyraean split which they try to maintain,
thus that would be WHY THEY PREFER humans with Blond/Red Haired Blue/Green caracteristics eyes that we are talking about.
So this could be a clue, why people with FAIR SKIN COMPLEXION amongst other things are more 'desirable' to them.

In fact, all races are to a certain point 'easy' to control,
BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE THE REPTILIAN DNA. Mixed and remixed for countless ages.

Personnally i am not totally convinced of what Stewart Swerdlow says (and other researchers too) because you can easily understand, that some of the stuff they bring, is kind of 'heavy'. Like Kerry say's: we have to triangulate all the info from all these multiple sources.

BLUE BLOOD TRUE BLOOD BOOK EXCERPTS:

Page 21:

''When the Atlans arrived on Earth, they colonised what became knowned as Atlantis.Their continent stretched from what is now the Carribean Basin to he Azores and Canary Islands, as well as small Island chains reaching up to what is now the East coast of the United States including Montauk Point. The industrious Atlanteans rapidly grew to a large, prospering civilization needing more territory''

--Now, i spare multitude of details in order to get to the point:
He says that wars between the reptilians and the Atlans followed. --
Read on.

Page 23:

''To stop the fighting and make the Earth peaceful enough for colonisation, a meeting was held by a council from the Andromeda Galaxy, on a planet called Hatona.''

'' Finally with their intercession, an agreement was reached between some of the human factions and the Reptilian Earth colonists. The Agreement stated that a new breed of Humanity would be created on Earth that would contain the DNA of all interested parties who participated on the 'peace' process.''

''The earth based reptilians of Lemuria agreed to this under the condition that the Reptilian body be the foundation of this new being.
This why the Bible states: 'Let us make man in our own image' This is a plural statement because it was a group project.....
This is why all humans on this planet have Reptilian DNA with reptilian traits.
This is also why human fetuses go through reptilian-style development in the womb before looking humanoid.''

Well, enough for now.
Have fun. :original:

salute.

divinethread

10-18-2008, 04:57 AM

Aryans or to be more precise ARYAS is NOT A RACE.
Please do some research: Before u start repeating yourself.

Here is something to start with----

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Oswald Arnold Gottfried Spengler (1880 – 1936) was a German historian and philosopher whose interests also included mathematics, science, and art. He is best known for his book The Decline of the West in which he puts forth a cyclical theory of the rise and decline of civilizations.

Spengler observed this about Eurocentrism:

“The Western European area is regarded as a fixed pole, a unique patch chosen on the surface of the sphere for no better reason, it seems, than because we live on it – and great histories of millennial duration and mighty faraway Cultures are made to revolve around this pole in all modesty. It is a quaintly conceived system of sun and planets. We select a single bit of ground as the natural center of the historical system, and make it the central sun. From it all the events of history receive their real light; from it their importance is judged in perspective.”

(source: The Decline of the West - By Oswald Spengler p. 13).

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The first point to note is that the idea of the Aryans as foreigners who invaded India and destroyed the existing Harappan Civilization is a modern European invention; it receives no support whatsoever from Indian records - literary or archaeological.

The same is true of the notion of the Aryans as a race; it finds no support in Indian literature or tradition. (And genetics demolishes it.) The word 'Arya' in Sanskrit means noble and never a race. In fact, the authoritative Sanskrit lexicon (c. 450 AD), the famous Amarakosha gives the following definition:

mahakula kulinarya sabhya sajjana sadhavah .

An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct. And the great epic Ramayana has a singularly eloquent expression describing Rama as:

arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah - Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone. The Rig Veda also uses the word Arya something like thirty six times, but never to mean a race. The nearest to a definition that one can find in the Rigveda is probably:

praja arya jyotiragrah ...

Children of Arya are led by light - Rig Veda VII. 33.17.

Thus, the modern notion of an Aryan-Dravidian racial divide is contradicted by ancient records. We have it on the authority of Manu that the Dravidians were also part of the Aryan fold. Interestingly, so were the Chinese. Race never had anything to do with it until the Europeans adopted the ancient word to give expression to their nationalistic and other aspirations.

Please refer to Naimisha Journal for interesting articles on Aryan Invasion Theory).

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Since the nineteenth century, India's ancient history from Vedic times and the true content of the Veda have both been distorted by a blinkered and unsympathetic scholarship. British rulers, European scholars and missionaries combined in a campaign to disparage the roots of Indian civilization, and used the wholly groundless Aryan Invasion theory to sow seeds of division in the Indian society - "divide and rule," but also "divide and convert." The same fallacies continue to be promoted today. Unfortunately, many of the wounds the Aryan invasion theory inflicted on Indian society are still painfully open today, nurtured as they have been by missionaries, Marxist historians and politicians, who together have made sure that divisions between castes have been sharpening rather than subsiding - for the simple reason that without such divisions they would all be out of business. Today, it is necessary to examines the birth of the Aryan myth, and the misuses it has bred; it then gives a fresh look at the invasion theory in the light of recent scientific evidence, and shows how it now stands overwhelmingly disproved. (source: The Invasion That Never Was - By Michel Danino and Sujata Nahar p. 26).

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The theory of the Aryan immigration into India from somewhere has been so often repeated by the western savants that it has become an article of faith even with the Indian scholars! But the Vedas refer to the Himalayas as the Uttara Giri i.e. the northern border and and contain no hints of an Aryan immigration into India from abroad.

(source: Indian Culture and the Modern Age - By Dewan Bahadur K. S. Ramaswami Sastri Annamalai University. 1956 p. 46-51).

Several eminent personalities including Swami Vivekanand, Gurudev Rabindranath Tagore and Shri Aurobindo firmly believed that Aryans were homegrown, born and brought up in India. Many chose to dismiss those views simply as irrational, inspirational or ultra-nationalistic. Yet, the archeological finds being uncovered presently, year after year, supported by continuing historical & scholarly research seem to prove that Swami Vivekanand, Rabindranath Tagore and Shri Aurobindo, and many learned personalities were correct to raise pointed questions against the Aryan Invasion Theory.

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But today, this theory is being challenged by two new discoveries, one archaeological and the other linguistic. Firstly, in the Rig Veda, the Ganges, India's sacred river, is only mentioned once, but the mythic Saraswati is praised fifty times. For a long time, the Saraswati river was indeed considered a myth, until the American satellite Landstat was able to photograph and map the bed of this magnificent river, which was nearly 14 km wide and took its source in the Himalayas. Archaeologist Paul-Henri Francfort, who studied the Saraswati regionat the beginning of the Nineties, found out that the Saraswati had "disappeared", because around 2200 B.C., an immense drought reduced the whole region to aridity and famine. "Thus", he writes, "most inhabitants moved away from the Saraswati to settle on the banks of the Indus and Sutlej rivers". According to official history, the Vedas were composed around 1500 BC, some even say 1200 BC. Yet, the Rig Veda describes India as it was before the great drought which dried up the Saraswati, which means in effect that the so-called Indus, or Harappan civilisation, was a continuation of the Vedic epoch, which ended approximately when the Saraswati dried up.

Recently, the famous Indus seals discovered on the site of Mohenjo Daro and Harappa have been deciphered by Dr N. Rajaram, a mathematician who worked at one time for the NASA and Dr Jha, a distinguished linguist. In the biased light of the Aryan invasion theory, these seals were presumed to be written in a crude Harappan (read Dravidian) script, although theyhad never been convincingly deciphered. But Rajaram and Jha, using an ancient Vedic glossary, the Nighantu, were able to prove that the script is of Sanskrit lineage and have so far deciphered 2000 seals. As the discovery of the Saraswati river, the decipherment of the Indus scripts also goes to prove that the Harappan civilisation, of which the seals are a product, belonged to the latter part of the Vedic Age and had close connections with Vedantic works like the Sutras and the Upanishads.

Hence, it is becoming more and more clear that there never was an Aryan invasion in India, a theory which was imposed upon the subcontinent by its colonizers and is today kept alive by Nehruvian historians (such as Romila Thapar), Christian missionaries (it is thus easy to convert the downtrodden tribals and Dravidians, by telling them that Hinduism was a religion thrust upon them by the hated "Brahmin" invaders) and the communists (who hate anything Hindu).

By Francois Gautier, the South Asia correspondent of `Le Figaro', France's largest circulation newspaper, and the author of `Rewriting Indian History'.

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http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Articles3.htm
(If u wish to research more)
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Opal

10-18-2008, 04:58 AM

NWO you say?

HA Olde Worlde Order 'doing business as usual...

One last comment...

LOOK TO DUBAI

Hi Zorgon and all,

May I ask why you say 'LOOK TO DUBAI' ?? you have me intrigued :original:

BTW thanks for images, some I had seen, some I hadnt!

Cheers
Opal

zorgon

10-19-2008, 05:02 PM

May I ask why you say 'LOOK TO DUBAI' ?? you have me intriguedl

DUBAI....

oops... just noticed this thread is in Avalon... I will make a thread in Camelot later... but in the meantime go to youtube and google Dubai and see where your gasoline dollars are going

Then I will tell you a story

Aisuru Chiku

10-19-2008, 06:28 PM

Can anyne tell me where Asian come from?
I have always been really curious.

Chinderland

10-19-2008, 08:50 PM

Can anyne tell me where Asian come from?
I have always been really curious.

Exactly what I have been thinking about since I digged into Camolot interviews.

Why no Asian contactee/witnesses? (I am Chinese.) I would say it is a strange underrepresentation given the population of Asians. There must be a reason for this. Someone here can shed some light on this issue?

As I see it, eastern Asians are quite unique in terms of genetics and culture. Our mentality is less polarized than westerners and there is strong tendency in us to go for reconciliation rather than confrontation.

If it is true that aliens intervened in human evolution, where and how did the Asian race come from?

Cheers.

BeaTnik-BandiT

10-19-2008, 08:53 PM

Can anyne tell me where Asian come from?
I have always been really curious.

It seems to be a mix of Lyraen/Rigelian/Reptilian.

(References: Blue Blood True Blood, Stewart Swerdlow; pages 30,171)

salute.

Aisuru Chiku

10-19-2008, 10:18 PM

Thank you for your information!
Here is more from Stewert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh9hMdciA7o:trumpet:

BeaTnik-BandiT

10-20-2008, 02:24 AM

DUBAI....

oops... just noticed this thread is in Avalon... I will make a thread in Camelot later... but in the meantime go to youtube and google Dubai and see where your gasoline dollars are going

Then I will tell you a story

Hey Zorgon, I got it why you told to: LOOK TO DUBAI:

They are pumping OUT ALL US MONEY over there to recreate BABYLON !!!!! :mfr_omg:

These are the words of Eric Jon Phelps:

See Here for his interview named:
''The Vatican Behind the Creation of Islam''

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/07jul/RICR-080720.php

Download mp3 and check around 27:27 minutes/sec. in this interview.

take care.

Heretic

10-20-2008, 05:01 AM

interstellar racism?

Vianova

10-20-2008, 07:28 AM

that is an artist's rendition of Marija Oršić

complete image:

http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturesg/cover.jpg

Vril artistry by author
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturest/Vril3.jpg

Base 211
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/3351/campaigns/sign01.jpg

BeaTnik-BandiT

10-20-2008, 02:59 PM

interstellar racism?

Heretic, i know what you mean.

It is just a matter of finding what 'separated' us in the first place,
before 'reuniting' again in peace and harmony.

peace and take care.

BeaTnik-BandiT

10-20-2008, 03:04 PM

Antonia

10-20-2008, 04:16 PM

Hey Zorgon and everybody else.... I don't think it's too much the outside physical appearance of blond and blue eyes and red hair that means anything it's just it flags the potential DNA... Interestingly...my mother was Hungarian/Germin/jewish refugee who escaped the SS and fled to England, where she met my father. She remembers seeing Hitler at rallies drive by and she says that he had dark RED hair. She said it looked brown or black in the black and white film clips and photographs we see today but he was indeed a red head??? Can any one back this up??? As for my father... He was Desmond Leslie.. (Leslie branch of hard core reptillian scotish clan family) He wrote the first ever book on UFO's with George Adamski.... "Flying Saucers have landed"... My Dad said that he never saw a UFO him self (I have seen two) but we still have a plaster cast footprint that George gave him of a Venusian's shoe. My father was an aved truth seeker on this subject and a light worker with The White Eaglr Lodge... and he had me fascinated with the origins of man since early childhood. He got me reading Zacharia Sitchen as soon as I could read.... He was very close to George Adamski and I remember this other lady when I was a kid nammed Trixy (English lady)... who was in contact with the Val (thor?) a lot...At least I think it was that Val as in Thor... Maybe a different Val? She spoke of a Val all the time and how she had stumbled upon ther craft landing by accedent but her friends she wa driving away from when this happened were already in contact with these beings... She said they were totoally flesh and blood like us but one time Val astrally projected in to her kitchen. Any how I went of on a bit of a rant there but the main thing is the Hitler being a red head???? Antonia :lightsabre:

ramallamamama

10-20-2008, 05:17 PM

Are you sure they aren't domestic Al Qaeda?

Dadrious

10-20-2008, 08:44 PM

Are you sure they aren't domestic Al Qaeda?

:nono:

Guri69

10-20-2008, 10:43 PM

WOW......I am in shock :shocked:

I am new in this forum, but have followed Project Camelot for a long time!
I have read some of the threads in here and is a bit ....shocked!

What on earth are you talking about in this thread?

I am a Nordic Blue Eyed Blonde Lady from the land of the midnightsun, Norway! My country was taken by that terrible cracy german, who occupied Norway from 1940-45! As he did in half of Europe! What does that make me! Controllable! Or maybe an Alien! Come on! You sound like racists all of you! What is going on in here!

The feeling in this forum is a bit DARK I must say! What have happened to the thinking and acting in the name of Love? Try to help your old neighbour crossing the street safely, or maybe help with the groceries! Then you radiate the power of good (love) to you surroundings! That is how we together can make this world a better place to live! Right now it seems that you are lost in the jungle! maybe its time to find your track again?

The power elite, the illuminaties, or whatever we call them, are indeed controlled! But they are HUMANS! Beeing controlled by enteties! These ENTETIES, as I call them are from another dimension. They FEED by human energy created by FEAR and POWER! What you my friends are doing in this forum is FEEDING! I hope you take me seriously and see we are all one on this earth, just some are controlled by the enteties! Belive me, I know this! I have SEEN them, and dealt with them.The only way to deal with them is with collectiv conciousness with love. Think of them as children who got lost and need someone to care for them and give them love..... and POFF the connection to that specific human beeing is broken! I wish someone had done that with the entety feeding on HITLER`S emotions of fear and power!

I send you all a lot of love :wub2:
and please remember this old HUNA thinking:

Where the awareness goes
the energy flows

Guri the Goddess :smoke: (trying to quit)

eurosceptic

10-20-2008, 10:56 PM

clarkkent

10-20-2008, 11:12 PM

WOW......I am in shock :shocked:

I am new in this forum, but have followed Project Camelot for a long time!
I have read some of the threads in here and is a bit ....shocked!

What on earth are you talking about in this thread?

I am a Nordic Blue Eyed Blonde Lady from the land of the midnightsun, Norway! My country was taken by that terrible cracy german, who occupied Norway from 1940-45! As he did in half of Europe! What does that make me! Controllable! Or maybe an Alien! Come on! You sound like racists all of you! What is going on in here!

love and light is great and im all for it, but im also for understanding the truth of whats going on in the world today. most people came looking for answers and are still looking.

the fact is there is some connection between the iiluminati, nazi's,nordic blonde "aliens", and the leaders of ufology/fringe groups.

i think its dismissive not to take notice of what is readily apparent for anyone who looks at these topics. the fact is if the illuminati were hispanic, and the nazi's were hispanic, and the legends of atlantis were about hispanic people, if their were benevolent brown skinnded dark haired hispanic looking aliens and the main figures in ufology/fringe were hispanic, and the bulk of mind control victims were hispanic.....i think you'd take notice. its not racist it observing a simple fact.

i think its worth looking into. i made a similiar thread and noticed some people were offended, which i dont know why, i would think theyd be just as curious. i dont think anyone is saying all blondes are bad or mind controlled, i certainly am not, but i am pointing out the glaringly obvious that there IS some connection, what exactly it is about blondes/redheads that make them at the forefront, who knows....but its worth looking at.

http://projectavalon.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5411

-k

Heretic

10-21-2008, 12:22 AM

but aren't the Nordic aliens just one of 50 some odd species (Clifford Stone) who have been interacting with this planet and its inhabitants for the past 60 years?

do we really know enough to say that it was a weakness in the blonde hair blue eyed strains and not a STRENGTH thay were looking for?

do we really know so much or are we only dancing on the tip of the iceberg and playing guessing games that target, not ethnicity, but traits found in many people across the world

and then referring to them in a derogatory manner

and your really shocked by their response?

seriously?

munkey

10-21-2008, 01:13 AM

Guri69

10-21-2008, 01:20 AM

Dear clarkkent!

I certenly will look into this source of yours and watch
Stewart Swerdlow - History of Mind Control

I will be back! :lightsabre:

Guri the Godess

Dadrious

10-21-2008, 01:45 AM

Buruso

10-21-2008, 02:26 AM

while looking into this check out this website
http://www.thule.org/aryans.html
its got some interesting stuff about Nazis, ET's and their evil plan to take over the world: please follow the links to other pages on the site
Cheers

Ampgod

10-21-2008, 03:04 AM

WOW......I am in shock :shocked:
You sound like racists all of you! What is going on in here!

I assure you I am not racist. :)

I was just brain storming a reason for all the weird abductions.
The nazi's could have attempted to make a elite super race of blonde haired, blue eyed modified humans. Personally, it doesn't make sense to me that these "Benevolent ET's" would put Miriam Delicado through all that her entire life. She strikes me as a secret gov. experiment rather than a chosen one by outer space beings.

It is not out of the question to at least think of this possibility.

Peace,
Ampgod

zorgon

10-21-2008, 03:21 AM

WOW......I am in shock :shocked:
I am a Nordic Blue Eyed Blonde Lady from the land of the midnightsun, Norway!

Greetings Viking Lady... considering the controversial nature of this topic... may I ask why you sign your post 'Guri the Goddess' :wink2:
Any connections to those ET's? :tongue2:

Please don't take it so seriously I don't see any racism here, though a few are not being very sensitive while lumping everyone together. I think personally Clark has it backwards... but we all ready went through that :wink2:

My country was taken by that terrible crazy german,

For the record he was Austrian born of a Jewish mother :wink2: All in all not a nice person... maybe his 'short' comings made him angry?

zorgon

10-21-2008, 03:23 AM

zorgon

10-21-2008, 03:38 AM

Hey Zorgon
She remembers seeing Hitler at rallies drive by and she says that he had dark RED hair.

Never found anything on that... it may have been a trick of the light on red/brown hair

but we still have a plaster cast footprint that George gave him of a Venusian's shoe.

Do you have a good picture of that casting? :thumb_yello:

Trixy (English lady)... who was in contact with the Val (thor?)

Contact in what way? I was sure only Frank Stranges had and real contact with Valiant

Antonia

10-21-2008, 12:51 PM

Hi.... regarding the footprint....I will get hold of a photo after this weekend... Am not in the visinity it's with my sister....will be traveling to that neck of the woods in a week... but I know there is a photo of it in the Book they wrote "Flying Saucers have landed"... Try google??? I'lldo it now too and see if there's any pics... It was a small light print..more like a dancing pump print or boxing boots you know the shape it had a couple of I think symbols on it quite big compared to the print... Could say size ten?? In Venusian?? Will definatly try and post picture wgen i can take one..

As for Hitler's hair.... my mother swore by it....she said he came in to her school when she was a child als well as driving by at rallies and she got in to trouble because she wouldn't give a nazi solute.... she was adament his hair was dark red and the gell wet look that greased it back made it appear darker... she is dead 11 years now and knew nothing of the toppic we are discussing here... She just used to bring it up at interesting did you know type discussions......

And as for the Viking Lady's fear of racism... Absolutely not... we are all such a mungrel lot here on theis planet...but thats what makes us an enigma to those who want to help as much as those who want to controle... They cant live with us and they cant live with out us!..... It's just that there are so many star races embeded on this planet and our DNA is so diverse that phisical traits is just a pointer to some of the more prominent DNA.. All the DNA is fasinating and holds all the secrets to unlocking the universe... tansmuting light and dimentions and saving humankind as well as ignighting the fallen Draco -Kundalini/soul-fire..that they dark ones need to recaptute thier lost soul energy..... They sooooooo need us.... we are the key!!

Love and light Antonia
Antonia....

Adarajones

10-21-2008, 01:32 PM

Buruso, great site!!!. Thxs a lot! :original:

zorgon

10-21-2008, 05:05 PM

Buruso, great site!!!. Thxs a lot! :original:

Well if its the 'Dark Side' you like...

THULE GESELLSHAFTl (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/20nazi_ufos/Thule_01.htm) By Jan van Hilsing

VRIL-GESELLSCHAFT (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/20nazi_ufos/Vril_01.html) By Jan van Hilsing

VRIL-Grundlagen - zentrum (Current VRIL website)
http://www.mental-ray.de/VRIL-Intro/index2.htm

VRIL PSI KORPS
http://www.psi-korps.de/

NAZI Saucers and related material
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/index.html

...---...

zorgon

10-21-2008, 05:09 PM

but I know there is a photo of it in the Book they wrote "Flying Saucers have landed"....

Ah I am sure that book is in my library :wink2:

Antonia

10-21-2008, 11:04 PM

to be honest, my take on this.
Hitler believed in the Aryan race, he was dark haired with brown eyes and also short, hardly a candidate for it, I also understand he was into the occult and ancient Gods who came to earth and manipulated DNA to create humans.
The blond hair blue eyes where like a direct decendent.
Now I am not saying that this is true, but it does not matter what I think, because others do believe this.

Now I have a question for those who may believe in this, if Hitler and co where into this belief, do you think they may porpetuate this belief of spiritual beings that will eventually come back to show themselves to us?

remember he and they where into the occult.

Has anyone else besides myself thought that all this talk of the Federation of light or the piledians (not sure of spelling) may in fact be the fallen angels spoken of in the bible?

remember if I want to decieve you, I will first gain your trust and offer you what ever you want, as long as you trust and believe in me.

If a being came to earth in the name of peace and harmony and said that in order for you to show that you believe in them that you should wear a small mark on your forehead to show your are one of love and peace (voluntarily of course) similar to that of Hindus, would you take the mark?

I don't know about the rest of you, but I won't be greeting the first visitors with open arms no matter what they look like.
I think I will wait for the second ship to come :wink2:

To answer this the answer is yes... There are renegade factions in from the pleiadian sector as well Sirious.... and Draco.. as well as highly eveolved light beings and physical beings of extremely high intent who are watching us and helping us in ways that doesn't interfear with our group consiousness evolution...The main groupe that ,if my understanding is correct, the fallen ones refers to is ("The decent in to third dimentional matter") is a group from Orion who somehow lost their Kundalini DNA blood fire... which is some sort of light implosion in our DNA maitrix which is activated through emotion and compassion. This is our "soul" energy... I have read that they lost this soul fire and in this their souls and have tried to remain imortal in third and fourth dimensions through technolegy...and the ingestion of an alchimical substance made form powderd gold...That they came to earth to mine... they live for sometimes hundreds of thousands of years... they can not asscend in to the higher dimentions. There is a whole process of Enki (Who's mother was a reptilian Orion Queen) mixing his kundalini fire infused DNA with the human worker they bred to mine the gold. Becuase not all Draco lost their soul infussed DNA, just the fallen ones... as we humans are a mixture of I think 22 alien races...with our main frames reptilian...we carry the DNA of the suoless ones ( Enlil/Yaweh was one of the souless ones) as well as those with Kundalini fire in thier DNA. The Dracco's with soul were broken hearted at the loss of their fallen brothers but saw them as a lost cause.. The fallen ones have been trying to recapture their soul energy by eating human flesh and drinking our hormone soaked blood in order to try and ingest our kundalini... (Hurmones are linked to emotion which is the key to this soulfire )and regain their soul energy... They are now trying to storm the higher dimentions through technolegy... but our emotions are vital to the Dracco..and we radiate back our emotions through our Enki DNA to the Dracco who are not the fallen ones... as well as other races who have infused their DNA codes in to ours.This is powerfull to them in that the love and empathy as well as the fear and pain we feel is absorbed and experianced by them..

The fallen ones need to keep us in the vibration of fear as it keeps them charged and it keeps us anchored in the third dimention ... and in their controle. they feel as they engenered us ,that we are their posesion... We can escape them and the third dimention by the asscention process.... But yes they can appear as beings of light on the astral plains and there is supposedly a fake renigade Ashtar command or Galactic federation that is dark posing as light..as well as a genuine galactic council . I personally would not board the first ships that land... Even with a Jesus him self on bord.. Suppsed plan for holographic projection jesus/ bhudda et all... Then there is the fact that the fallen ones need to keep us here in third dimention to keep trying to capture our soul energy. They were on this planet before us and view it as theirs... Which is understanable. We have needed thier negitiive pull and fear vibrations to pull us in to the deep 3D experiance and so really awaken our soul energy by finally transmuting fear and understanding the dark. When we finally awaken our Enki soul fire...or Kundelini and riase it through our crown chakera's and ignite our true blazing heart energy... We have completed our mission and completed the earth experament succesfully, the whole galaxy and universe is affected...

Earth is in a veryi mporatant position and by showing that all these diiffernt spieces DNA can finally asssend to higher and higher dimentions until we are all co-creating universes together/ How we elvolve on Earth will affect all the speices back where ever they are in the universe.. Mass exudus in ET Ships would be like aborting the mission.... mass inervention or rapture up in to space ships is not the solution and I believe it would halt our evolutionary process... I think we need to want to go down with this ship (Earth) in order to vibrationally go up. The bible story of the fallen angels doesn't tell the half of it... and the old testament was written by followers of Enlil any way... So it will be pretty deceptive and biast against Enki and not very liberal with the truth... but each faction even the dark Reptillian one, is doing what it believes it needs to do... Even the illumanati believe they are the only ones who are smart enough to rule the earth and it's their job. "The trouble with the devil is he doesn't know he's the Devil...he thinks he's God", ...

I am fascinated to think how so many different agenda's with different sought out comes are all comming together and cullminationg in something amaizing if we Earth humans/mungrel/living united-nations of a spieces who is the key to some sort of universal evolution do succeed. Hell may litteraly freeze over as they say as we just might, with out realising it, bring the dark ones back in to the light and help them regain their soul fire by accepting unconditional love.... or there is a possiblity of a lot of people and tyranical entities being trapped in third and lower astal dimentions . Not so good for any of us or them....Only they don't realise that. But it's hard to know who's who and who to trust? I certainly am with you there... any how all that I have just said is what I've come to understand it's just one perticular take on the whole thing ... I hope I have been of some help... even if you want to diisagree with my view... it will polorize your own views and ideas.... As long as we are al lthinking and asking questions... we are getting somewhere...
Keep asking questions and keep those amaizing hearts of yours blazzing...

I also have a familly blood line that is deeply reptillian and RH Neg blood... I have a spirit guide or a connection with a reptillian being who is female and gives me amaizing advice and her vibration is full of love and healing intent for me her and the whole mess we are slowely getting our selves out off... I was weary about her at firsr but she has proved to be of the utmost integrety and high intension...I had read all the David Ike books so I presumed that all reptilians were dark and bad... but I had the fascination with them I would imagine due to my DNA...that i was an easy canditit for controle... I thought OMG... here's one trying to cagole and fool me... I was gobsmacked when I read all that she had told me later in pages by a guy called Dan Winter ... and Steweret Swedlow.and the website Temas Paraciencia. She said she was from an ancient Dragon mother goddess cult back on Orion and had been working with my soul for many life times and felt like some sort of maternal link thruogh DNA... She was working at healing a rift through the tiny black holes or interdimentional links in the crystiline maitrix of both our human and reptilian DNA wich linked experiance and emotions....

She absorbed my emotional expeariances and in return sent me wisdon and explination of the universe and struggles between Dark and light polarities...

She explianed our quest here on Earth to transmute the Dark and raise the vibration was imperitive not just for us here on Earth but for this entire section of the universe... any how so much she told me and then when I went on to open books and web-pages and read all she told me, was so exciting, as I thought thank God...Im not going mad and imagining her......

here's some pages of interest
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...anwinter08.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...anwinter05.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...anwinter07.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...anwinter09.htm
http://www.light1998.com/OSIRIS/Blac...t-of-Orion.htm

Then I watched a video by a guy called George Kavassilias... I think called galactic federation of light... (Yes one one of the many!!!! real and not real)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kPs8tYvSG4

and this seemed to back upa lot of the info and explain...what went on way before humans were in the universe... And why the reptillians think they are the main event... not us etc...

hope this can shed some light... and you can make upyour own minds

Peace Love and Lght Antonia

Antonia

10-21-2008, 11:54 PM

Never found anything on that... it may have been a trick of the light on red/brown hair

Do you have a good picture of that casting? :thumb_yello:

Contact in what way? I was sure only Frank Stranges had and real contact with Valiant

Sorry Zorgon I didn't see the bit about Trixi and Val... Ok here's what I can remeber I was a kid of nine...I am fourty five now so bear with me.. Trixi came to Ireland to stay with us.... She told the story like this.. She had been staying with friends and they had a CB radio kind of thing... in the house she was alone and the radio flashed on and a mans voice said somthing like So and so (names of people) are landing at Blue Pete on Tueday at 4pm (something to that effect) she was supprised and asked her friends what it meant...they brushed it off as unimportant... The day she left she was driving along (this was in England) and she saw a sign saying Blue Pete (I think its a bog nothing to do with TV programe Blue Peter)She rememberd the message and it was Tuesday arround that time... she was curious and she drove up the raod with the sign... she drove for a while and next thing a UFO flew low over her car and landed not too far away. She stopped the car and watched...she saw her friends car arriving accross the field or bog where the Craft had landed and it was round with tripod legs. her friends got out of the car and went towards it and a guy got out and went towards them and embraced them... He was about to get in to their car when he seemed to sense her telepathicly..he turned and looked her way and she was discovered. Her friends came over to he with the guy from the craft and said "You'd better come back with us and we will explain...

She did and became involved with this perticular group of Aliens.. They were human and looked like us ... She became good friends with two of them and one they all called Val... But now that I'm remebering ...I think it was because of his resemblance to Val Dunican.... Val was not his real name... I cant remeber what she said their mission was here but they were comming and going for a good few years and she remained close to Val she said years after he appeared in her kitchen and he said to her don't touch me because I'm a holographic astral projection, this time... I can't remeber where they were from or what they're purpose was... this is all that I remember... now looking back they sound like Billy Meyers lot or they could be government decoys posing as aliens or Nordics??? Was this the same Val as Val Thor? Probably not... sorry my memory is so shakey... I think I remeber seeing photos but I'm not sure...... I don't know much about Val Thor except he said don't trust the beings from Alderbarren (The Ashtar Command) ? As they were working with the Nazi's???Is this correct?

and I will get you that footprint after the weekend when I visit my sister who I hope has it locked away in our archives room.... Peace to you my friend

Antonia :mfr_lol:

Buruso

10-22-2008, 11:55 AM

I emailed Thule.org today to find out what they are about:
copy of email
Buruso wrote:
> Hello,
> After finding website Thule.org and reading the various pages therein
> I felt the material seemed to verify information from other sources
> about the truth of what has been going on with humanity. But on
> researching about the Thule organization it seems it has been part of
> previous attempts at socialist one world govt (Nazism, which seems to
> be happening in the USA now), secret organizations,(Blavatsky's
> theosophical society), truth withholding and the mere mention of the
> name brings thoughts of distrust.Even now there are plans being put
> forward via the Venus project for a utopian society that seems
> socialist and is linked to the theosophical society and ultimately Thule
> It seems that the website is giving away the plans its own
> organization had to reorganize the world
> My question is how can I direct people to the information on the
> website and say it is credible given the past track record of the
> Thule organization? has the agenda of the Thule organization changed?
> Thank you
> Buruso
this was their reply:

hello buruso, thule foundation is not related to thule society.
we are the thule foundation.
we are here to expose the worms.we have a book just published
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=4908&l=0d93e&id=1411578330
we agree, amerika and the Earth are being ruled by fascist corporate
oligarchy.
the federal reserve is the money arm, the cia the intelligence arm, etc.
thanks for your note.
namaste'
so there seems to be quite a lot of interesting stuff there if you follow all the links off the many pages at
http://www.thule.org/
A FAKE ATTACK OF RADIO CONTROLLED UFOS FROM ANTARCTIC!!!
BELIEVABLE?
Cheers
Buruso

Antonia

10-22-2008, 12:40 PM

[ so there seems to be quite a lot of interesting stuff there if you follow all the links off the many pages at
http://www.thule.org/
A FAKE ATTACK OF RADIO CONTROLLED UFOS FROM ANTARCTIC!!!
BELIEVABLE?
Cheers
Buruso[/QUOTE]

Well thanks for the info... I looked at the thule website... Interesting stuff but he/she seems a little angry .... I may be mistaken but he/she seems very young... nothing wrong with youth...i wish i were still young but the stroppy energy is one of a young person who's just found out there is no Santa.... I'll go back and read the other articles all releivant and he?she poses questions... I like questions... keep asking questins????:mfr_lol: Antonia

zorgon

10-24-2008, 06:44 AM

we agree, amerika and the Earth are being ruled by fascist corporate
oligarchy. the federal reserve is the money arm, the cia the intelligence arm, etc.
thanks for your note.
namaste'

Thanks for the follow up :thumb_yello:

Funny the spelling and saying the CIA is the 'intelligence arm' but the signature namaste' kinda gives it away.

Using the "thule" in your website and being concerned about the CIA is not the smartest move in the world.

A FAKE ATTACK OF RADIO CONTROLLED UFOS FROM ANTARCTIC!!!
BELIEVABLE?
Cheers
Buruso

Sure why not? the UFO/Antarctica connection is real enough... Radio Controlled? Not sure why that would be necessary... to much could go wrong :shocked:

So its an amateur site with links..

Cool... we all start somewhere :wink2:

dataeast

10-26-2008, 04:04 PM

Exactly what I have been thinking about since I digged into Camolot interviews.

Why no Asian contactee/witnesses? (I am Chinese.) I would say it is a strange underrepresentation given the population of Asians. There must be a reason for this. Someone here can shed some light on this issue?

As I see it, eastern Asians are quite unique in terms of genetics and culture. Our mentality is less polarized than westerners and there is strong tendency in us to go for reconciliation rather than confrontation.

If it is true that aliens intervened in human evolution, where and how did the Asian race come from?

Cheers.

Here's an interesting quote from an article that points to a asian genotype associated with a supposed "Nordic" alien hair that was found in an abduction case:
http://www.theozfiles.com/hair.html

...
Bill Chalker concludes "these four human persons and the tall, blonde female share a common maternal ancestor sometime in the past 2,000- 10,000 years, given known rates of substitution in mitochondrial DNA. Indeed, a perfect 5/5 match between the tall blonde and those four persons indicates that little if any random substitution has occurred in the intervening period." But it gets even more bizarre when you take into consideration the phenotype (outward appearance) with this genotype (genetic structure). The physical description Peter gave of his alleged alien female was "tall, blonde, fair skinned".

Such a phenotype would place her, at first assumption, in the group of humans we know as Finns, Icelandics and Scandinavians. Yet all four of the people in the literature having the same genotype were of the Mongoloid/Chinese type (one Chinese, three Taiwanese, appearing in databases in Asian countries) who would, presumably, have thick black hair. "All four thus belong to a rare third human racial type (again as defined by DNA sequence) found only in Asia." (The two main racial types based on DNA analysis being Africans and Whites-Asian).

So whence cometh a Nordic phenotype of Asian genotype?

...

This suggests that the outward appearance might be blonde blue eyed, but of genotype characteristic of Chinese/Mongolian descent, which puts a different perspective on the origins of the "Nordic" ETs. Asian genes may in fact be closer to the "Nordics" as mitochondrial DNA shows. I think a concerted effort in building a bigger database would be necessary as "Asian" is too broad in scope to encompass the hundreds of tribes that exist in the east. China and Mongolia are in effect unified countries in which many tribes coexist. There exist tribes not dissimilar to those in North America.

Also, what I've found curious is that when Hitler and Himmler began looking for the "Aryan" (Noble) people, I believe that the Gobi was one place they suspected they existed. There is some irony that the eugenics movement which has in a sense given rise to the genetics movement, has revealed, according to Bill Chalkers case anyway, this interesting piece of the puzzle.

Chinderland

10-26-2008, 05:34 PM

Here's an interesting quote from an article that points to a asian genotype associated with a supposed "Nordic" alien hair that was found in an abduction case:
http://www.theozfiles.com/hair.html

This suggests that the outward appearance might be blonde blue eyed, but of genotype characteristic of Chinese/Mongolian descent, which puts a different perspective on the origins of the "Nordic" ETs. Asian genes may in fact be closer to the "Nordics" as mitochondrial DNA shows. I think a concerted effort in building a bigger database would be necessary as "Asian" is too broad in scope to encompass the hundreds of tribes that exist in the east. China and Mongolia are in effect unified countries in which many tribes coexist. There exist tribes not dissimilar to those in North America.

Also, what I've found curious is that when Hitler and Himmler began looking for the "Aryan" (Noble) people, I believe that the Gobi was one place they suspected they existed. There is some irony that the eugenics movement which has in a sense given rise to the genetics movement, has revealed, according to Bill Chalkers case anyway, this interesting piece of the puzzle.

Very interesting material! When was this research done?

If I understand correctly, among the human subjects surveyed in this research, only 4 Asians (4 Chinese to be exact, as Taiwanese are Chinese :winksmiley02:) share the most sequence variations in their mitochondrial DNA with the "Alien Blonde Female". This is quite a surprise to me, suppose the abduction case is real and the "alien" hair sample is genuine.

How many Chinese subjects were surveyed for DNA sequences in this research? That'll give a rate of occurence of the DNA variations.

You are right that Asians are more varied than their appearances. China, for instance, have 56 ethnic groups and numerous dialects among the Han people, the majority of Chinese population. These dialects can be so different in pronunciations that, unless writing their words down, two Chinese speaking different dialects can hardly understand each other. :lol3: Of course, they can communicate in Mandarin, which is the standard Chinese language taught in school.

Even the appearances of Chinese may have changed along the history. If you look at the Ceramic Warriors of Qin Dynasty (221-206 BC), most of them have eyelids without a fold, a trait you often see in Koreans and Japanese, but not of as high a ratio in modern-day Han Chinese.

Mongolians are very close to Chinese from the Northern China, at least on their appearances.

dataeast

10-26-2008, 06:04 PM

Apparently, the study was done in 1999 according to the article and if indeed it was a scientific paper it would be peer reviewed. I think what lends its credibility is that DNA can't be faked (AFAIK) without it being evident in the testing, but I could be wrong.

The actual date of the abduction was 1992.

Here is the actual paper that the article speaks of:

http://www.cufos.org/strange_evidence.pdf

Perhaps there hasn't been a big enough sample of asian genes to say that the hair has been faked, but as it stands it's quite interesting in itself.

In the Majestic 12 documents, the SOM1-01 manual EBE type I specifically mentions the type as Oriental in appearance which is another clue as well. It's not the only document that mentions the "Oriental" appearance of some EBEs. Then of course, the ubiquitous MIBs have at times been seen as Oriental in appearance.

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/

Greets.

Chinderland

10-26-2008, 06:13 PM

the ubiquitous MIBs have at times been seen as Oriental in appearance.

http://www.majesticdocuments.com/

Greets.

The MIBs? Do you mean the so-called "Greys"?

I do think the descriptions of Greys are of oriental traits, for instance the small nose and small mouth, relatively bigger head and slim statue. But the skin colors are so different, though. :mfr_lol:

Cheers.

dataeast

10-26-2008, 06:22 PM

The MIBs? Do you mean the so-called "Greys"?
...

Men In Black, :lol3:

Chinderland

10-26-2008, 08:05 PM

Men In Black, :lol3:

:naughty:

I just read the pdf file you provided with the link. I paid special attention to the testimony of Peter Khoury on the appearance of the two alien females, one Asian-looking and the other blond in her hair.

Despite the difference in skin color and eye color (the Asian one with dark skin and the blonde one with white skin), the two aliens share many facial characteristics:

They both have VERY long face and VERY high cheek bones. The blonde one was described as having a long nose (following her long face) but not a protruding nose as most Europeans have.

You know which ethnic group have these two facial traits? The Manchurians (or Juchens). Just have a look at the portraits of the Manchurian emperors of Qing Dynasty (google image maybe?). All of them have very long faces, long nose and high cheek bones. As a matter of fact, you can use these characteristics to identify a Chinese of Manchurian descend. One living example is Ms. Lang Ping. She led the national volleyball team of USA during the Olympics. She is a Manchurian and you can see the traits on her face.

As for the dark skin of the Asian-looking alien woman, the skin color is very common among the south-eastern Asians, such as Thai and Burmese.

Interestingly, if you look at the portrait of Semjase (the female Pleiadian Billy Meier claimed to have met), you don't see much Scandinavian characteristics there. She looks quite like northeastern Asian. http://www.steelmarkonline.com/semjase.htm

dataeast

10-26-2008, 09:02 PM

:naughty:

I just read the pdf file you provided with the link. I paid special attention to the testimony of Peter Khoury on the appearance of the two alien females, one Asian-looking and the other blond in her hair.

Despite the difference in skin color and eye color (the Asian one with dark skin and the blonde one with white skin), the two aliens share many facial characteristics:

They both have VERY long face and VERY high cheek bones. The blonde one was described as having a long nose (following her long face) but not a protruding nose as most Europeans have.

You know which ethnic group have these two facial traits? The Manchurians (or Juchens). Just have a look at the portraits of the Manchurian emperors of Qing Dynasty (google image maybe?). All of them have very long faces, long nose and high cheek bones. As a matter of fact, you can use these characteristics to identify a Chinese of Manchurian descend. One living example is Ms. Lang Ping. She led the national volleyball team of USA during the Olympics. She is a Manchurian and you can see the traits on her face.

As for the dark skin of the Asian-looking alien woman, the skin color is very common among the south-eastern Asians, such as Thai and Burmese.

Interestingly, if you look at the portrait of Semjase (the female Pleiadian Billy Meier claimed to have met), you don't see much Scandinavian characteristics there. She looks quite like northeastern Asian. http://www.steelmarkonline.com/semjase.htm

As I understand, in China, aristocracy perhaps before the cultural revolution treasured the fair complexion as a darker skin tone would suggest that you were a laborer (peasant). This still holds true to some degree if you compare skin tone with those who live in Hong Kong and those who live in rural China.

Yes, I understand that the Manchurians (Northeners) are somewhat different to the southerner generally speaking. Perhaps there is a genetic link somewhere that bridges the Icelandic features as well that has atrophied through natural selection and environmental differences as land masses were at some time split to isolate the peoples.

I don't venture to know where these ETs might come from as I don't think I have ever met any face to face. Although it might just as likely be that they are native to earth (even in another dimension--M-Theory). The other thing is that if telepathy is a reality, which I think is true then there is a possibility that interactions might be tailored to whomever is receiving the message at the time meaning that how they appear might be in a form most conducive to whatever message or outcome "they" desire. This might be like a screen image intended for some particular person like, for the religious, the form of an angel or The Virgin Mary.

Also, in dreams they might assume the form of symbolism according to the dreamers subconscious language so as to impart the message in a way best understood, since communication is the goal. So there is the relative factor involved with the interaction.

As I have it they can read our minds possibly better that we can ourselves, so I would not put it past an intelligence to simply communicate in our voice (internal monologue) with the available data in our own memory (images, sensations).

I'm not a big fan of Billy's mainly due to his later UFO photo's which don't appear to be genuine, however some of his experiences have some truth to them. You're right though, Semjase, does appear asiatic particularly her nose.

Interesting stuff.

Xhaosis

10-26-2008, 09:08 PM

the few experiences I have had with the blonde's is they are very pale, to the point I remember a instance where I could see her veins, and her skin seemed strange... Yet star kingly beautiful. An attraction I cannot really explain... Almost a guilt...

Savoyya

10-26-2008, 10:45 PM

On top of some physical traits, dont forget the blood type. Some think the rhesus negative blood type is coming from extraterrestrial origin. On earth, every primates are rhesus positive, all of them... except about 15% of humans which are rhesus negative. People with rhesus negative blood type act exactly as if they were hybrids: the female will reject her fetus if its rhesus positive. If both partners are rhesus negative, they cant have a baby together. Hybrids are like that.

If you look at the geographical distribution of rhesus negative people, you will find a much larger concentration of them in Europe, and very few in Africa and Asia.

I think its an interesting trail to follow anyways.

Anticomuna

10-27-2008, 12:52 AM

Let me tell-ya, that is one BEATIFULL fascist-oppressor.

Haha! I thought the exact same thing!

Artemis

10-27-2008, 11:17 AM

:naughty:

I just read the pdf file you provided with the link. I paid special attention to the testimony of Peter Khoury on the appearance of the two alien females, one Asian-looking and the other blond in her hair.

Despite the difference in skin color and eye color (the Asian one with dark skin and the blonde one with white skin), the two aliens share many facial characteristics:

They both have VERY long face and VERY high cheek bones. The blonde one was described as having a long nose (following her long face) but not a protruding nose as most Europeans have.

You know which ethnic group have these two facial traits? The Manchurians (or Juchens). Just have a look at the portraits of the Manchurian emperors of Qing Dynasty (google image maybe?). All of them have very long faces, long nose and high cheek bones. As a matter of fact, you can use these characteristics to identify a Chinese of Manchurian descend. One living example is Ms. Lang Ping. She led the national volleyball team of USA during the Olympics. She is a Manchurian and you can see the traits on her face.

As for the dark skin of the Asian-looking alien woman, the skin color is very common among the south-eastern Asians, such as Thai and Burmese.

Interestingly, if you look at the portrait of Semjase (the female Pleiadian Billy Meier claimed to have met), you don't see much Scandinavian characteristics there. She looks quite like northeastern Asian. http://www.steelmarkonline.com/semjase.htm

As a scandinavian myself and has been born here and lived here for 50 years.... excuse me :original:.... but what are you talking about......
as the picture of semjase that you put up the link to..... she is looking typical scandinavian.... it could easily had been a drawing of both of my sisters.....
( twins ) .... it is not uncommon to have high cheekbones or tilted eyes or that kind of nose...... have you ever been here..?? I see those features all over.... she could walk the streets here and everyone should take her for a typical swede....

The one I have met here walking and living in this society was real asian looking, with black hair.... I have a friend that is full contacctee, that has been teached from childhood by them and have had a lot of contact with the ones walking among us.... his contact was this asian woman.... a very happy, friendly person.... living here for a lot of years... she used to come home to him about once a month.... by car.....:roll1: .... and she has shown her self to me as well.... so I do not dubt what he is telling me....

There was a whole bunch of them travelling around here in europe until a couple of years ago... taking studies about our society in diffrent areas... for example the new age movement... they used to sometimes visit my friend for a chat and hold him updated on some things... but all was not looking scandinavian... but all humanlooking and can easily pass as humans....

You never know who you meet in the streets....:roll1:

My friend is holding a low profile because of all the treaths and attempt to take his life and they even holding treaths to his family.... not the pleidians but forces on the earth.... so I do understand him....

hughs.....:original:

Chinderland

10-27-2008, 12:28 PM

The one I have met here walking and living in this society was real asian looking, with black hair.... I have a friend that is full contacctee, that has been teached from childhood by them and have had a lot of contact with the ones walking among us.... his contact was this asian woman.... a very happy, friendly person.... living here for a lot of years... she used to come home to him about once a month.... by car.....:roll1: .... and she has shown her self to me as well.... so I do not dubt what he is telling me....

An Asian-looking Plaiedian woman comes to her human contactee once a month by car? :nono: Hmm ......

I would really like to meet her in person. :lmfao: But how can I know if she is a genuine Plaiedian? :sweatdrop:

Cheers.

munkey

10-27-2008, 12:53 PM

The most amazing part of this entire post is when people claim to have done research.
What research?

I could come up with any fantasy story about extra terrestrial beings and some how slip it into the new age group.
now before long, someone will pick a little part of my story that they like and add it to theirs and then someone else does it as well.
Before you know it, my fantasy story is now hitting more and more new age people and the story is spreading.
Now throw in a so called Channeler who also likes part of the story and now my fantasy is being used as a reference point because so many have now used pieces of my story.

I am not saying that UFO's and ET's don't excist, On the contrary, I believe I witnessed a group of 5 flying craft when I was in my early teens and have had my head craned to the sky ever since.

The only true research anyone can do is if they themselves have contact, because in the middle of all these so called channelings and telepathic comunications, most of them would have to be absolute rubbish.

Just because 1 man tells me that this ET is a good guy, does not mean I should believe them, what if I claimed to be a channeler and had over a thousand people that subscribe to my blog, does that give me any more credability, If I get a book published, does that make me any more credible?

when we start hearing stories about people telling us that we are made up of 22 different alien races, I just sigh, how many different species are apes made up of? or dolphins or even a white mouse?
we may have been a manipulation of genes and created by the one we call God, but that does not mean that all ET's are God.

Just be careful of what and who you believe :wink2:

Greg10036

10-27-2008, 01:05 PM

...have you ever heard of the Irish and schottisch people, they are of celtic descent red-heard and blue ore green eyes, I can tell you one thing they are NOT easily controlled...

You got that right. Not only Celtic but also Pict blood mixed in there and nobody knows where that came from. Possibly a non-cooperation gene was introduced by the Picts. :winksmiley02: Vril women, yes, beautiful and deadly. Beware outward appearances.
g.

Artemis

10-27-2008, 02:06 PM

An Asian-looking Plaiedian woman comes to her human contactee once a month by car? :nono: Hmm ......

I would really like to meet her in person. :lmfao: But how can I know if she is a genuine Plaiedian? :sweatdrop:

Cheers.

It easy.... because his first contacts started when he was around twelve years old.... and then they did not come by car, but by UFO.... it was not by accident as his soul is from pleiades but got stranded here a long time ago, which I can belive then he is one of the deepest seer I have ever met....and I know of a couple of more persons she have contacted as well.... I have known him for about 20 years... and have not find any reason to disbelife him... or his wife who had to get use to, to welcome this persons ringing on the door....

I have see so much through my physical eyes so for me they are not some thoughtform or a belife.... They sure are here..... its less logical to belive that my "hallucinations" can be shared with other persons seeing the same thing.... I do not think my telepatic abilitys are so developed that I can make others see my "hallucinations" , so for me the most logical explanation is, that its a fact, I see what I see.... so... in my reality... they are here.....

hughs :original:

dataeast

10-27-2008, 02:44 PM

The most amazing part of this entire post is when people claim to have done research.
What research?

Moi? I offered some links to some genetic research so take a look at my posts and spend some time to read them before overreacting.:naughty:

Your post is superfluous, we are all adults here. :)

spiritual_wanderer

10-28-2008, 02:31 AM

Vianova

10-29-2008, 06:51 AM

Half this thread is interesting,'
and half is garbage,
like all the blue eyed blonde haired aliens,
and lizard DNA in the moo-foo,....
but before we go all Nazi uber stench-ish

let us go in the way back machine

Monkey See
Monkey Do
Monkey Look a little like
Me and You

ancient genetic engineers indeed

full scene
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/elvis-boletus/P1010016.jpg

close up of Humanzee ?
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/elvis-boletus/P1010016a.jpg

now we can go all Uber stench lich

SS general Hans Kammler
originated the idea of using concentration camp prisoners as slave laborers in the rocket program.

Arthur Rudolph, chief engineer of the V-2 rocket factory at Peenemünde,
endorsed this idea in April 1943 when a labor shortage developed.

http://www.geocities.com/nephilimnot/nazibell.jpg
Witkowski [The Truth about the Wunderwaffe 1]
claims that more than 60 scientists associated with the project were assassinated by the SS
before the Bell was transported.
Cook believes SS general Hans Kammler
made a deal withthe US military ,
in exchange for the technology.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p224_Countess.html
An American in Exile: The Story of Arthur Rudolph

zorgon

10-29-2008, 08:19 AM

But how can I know if she is a genuine Plaiedian?

Simple ask to see her ID... I am sure even the Plaiedians have some form of ID :D

dataeast

10-29-2008, 12:52 PM

...
http://www.geocities.com/nephilimnot/nazibell.jpg
...

IMO, the Bell photo is a composite, there are two different lenses being used, it has been shot with a shorter lens than the background image and should appear more flattened, but instead it's overly distorted due to the shorter focal length.

Vianova

10-30-2008, 08:50 AM

IMO, the Bell photo is a composite, there are two different lenses being used, it has been shot with a shorter lens than the background image and should appear more flattened, but instead it's overly distorted due to the shorter focal length.

First:
I view the Nazi technologies from a standpoint of
scientific review of "Zero Point" energy applications etc,
and the posting of images and content is to question the validity of
blonde haired blue eyed aliens ...but to an extent,
as it really is unimportant other than mild fascination by the readers derived from the sensationalistic title of the thread..

On the image in question,
and your comment:

Agreed, and many of the Nazi era images of Vril spacecraft or suacers are either tampered with, fakes, or artist renditions.
Some of them are real however.

robert dale arndt Jr who did the Vril images posted on page 1, aslo does an artist's rendition of the Bell,
Die Glocke
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/M/MarrsReichBell1.jpg

point being.....
that at least there is some photographic evidence of specific technologies the Nazi's
developed which emanated from Vril and the origins of "Aldebaran contacts",
but "blonde blue eyed aliens" is pure speculation,
and an unfortunate extrapolation of dated Aryan iideologies IMO.

Thus we get these grainy images to view,
then literaturized and conditioned as a belief system that it all ever occurred.

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/M/MarrsNaziHaunebullBellLo.jpg

but it did.... and that is the wild part,
now google hans kammler and george patton

Kammler's name never apppeared in Nuremburg trials, as he completely disappeared after WWII,
but Nazi's Von Braun and Rudolph created the NASA program.

omshanti2

10-30-2008, 10:46 AM

Hello everyone, I know there is a serious side to this topic, but I found myself chuckling at what BeaTnik-BadiT wrote, blond haired and blue eyed people are easier to control, I am ash blond with pure blond streaks throughout all my hair, and Blue eyed and I think my partner would disagree with you, he said he has never met anyone as stubben as me lol.
Great thread Ampgod, and very interesting, thanks BeaTnik-BandiT for making me smile.

dataeast

10-30-2008, 11:40 AM

First:
I view the Nazi technologies from a standpoint of
scientific review of "Zero Point" energy applications etc,
and the posting of images and content is to question the validity of
blonde haired blue eyed aliens ...but to an extent,
as it really is unimportant other than mild fascination by the readers derived from the sensationalistic title of the thread..

On the image in question,
and your comment:

Agreed, and many of the Nazi era images of Vril spacecraft or suacers are either tampered with, fakes, or artist renditions.
Some of them are real however.

robert dale arndt Jr who did the Vril images posted on page 1, aslo does an artist's rendition of the Bell,
Die Glocke
http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/M/MarrsReichBell1.jpg

point being.....
that at least there is some photographic evidence of specific technologies the Nazi's
developed which emanated from Vril and the origins of "Aldebaran contacts",
but "blonde blue eyed aliens" is pure speculation,
and an unfortunate extrapolation of dated Aryan iideologies IMO.

Thus we get these grainy images to view,
then literaturized and conditioned as a belief system that it all ever occurred.

http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/M/MarrsNaziHaunebullBellLo.jpg

but it did.... and that is the wild part,
now google hans kammler and george patton

Kammler's name never apppeared in Nuremburg trials, as he completely disappeared after WWII,
but Nazi's Von Braun and Rudolph created the NASA program.

Yeah, I don't disagree with where you are heading and speculating/investigating. I certainly think there is more than meets the eye, but I would disagree to some extent that every sighting of UFOs in WWII could be attributed soley to the German Discs if this was where you were going (maybe this is for another thread)...

There is also a possiblity that there is at least two discreet technologies being explored here in regard to the UFO phenomena. One of which is a cruder and Earth borne nature and another that has been captured and in another phase of development (currently). This is how I am exploring it, atm.

Yes, not all scientists where found or prosecuted in the Nuremburg "trials."

I tend to think that at the end of WWII there is a highly likely chance that another split of technology occurred unbeknownst to the public. The public face being Von Braun's rocketry.

Anyways, I am really getting off topic now.... :naughty:

Back, to the Blue Eyed Blondes, more pics please...

Cheers

Vianova

10-30-2008, 09:10 PM

Sorry if I can't takle the thread seriously...
for some people...
but ..oh well ... how serious can you get about
blonde blue eyed aliens?

:lmfao:

Granted , the Zeta Ridiculans are just as bogus.
Project Serpo :tongue2:
The J rod and Bullsrisch ... :roll1:

Somewhere in all that is a speck of truth I suppose,
but most of it is hoax and psyop.

I do like approaching alien intervention though.
We see that possibly on Mars as well with Cydonia.

well there were Nazi's and there were AnuNazi's,
and they even had a base on Mars according to Sitchin.:trumpet:

but I don't think the Anunazi's
had blonde hair and blue eyes but then Quetzalcoatl
was supposedly a white man...?
dunno about that either.

Obviously my play on words is:
AnuNazi---- Anunnaki .... they supposedly ruled for
tens of thousands of years ... and more...
....the genetic engineers...

OK , so the SEED BAG is a bag of DNA...
or just seeds?
I will follow up on the seed bags later.

From this historic Sumerian time frame is where all the current Lizard Moo-Foo DNA conspiracists
emanate their claims.

I do not doubt that some people have ancient
DNA...lol ....like everybody...
and that if there was ancient genetic engineering
then everybody got a little Lizard Moo-Foo
in their genetic makeup possibly,
but any Human can transcend that genetic chain of
illusion
and unify with the Infinite,
and the people that claim some exclusivity of genetic breeding and psychic endowment
or whatever attributes that separate them as superior through their Lizard DNA.... are full of Moo-Foo which is B S.

Inana
[not Nancy Leider} --->:lmfao:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w174/elvis-boletus/inana.jpg

http://www.taraka.pl/foto/inana_3.jpg

ya think Hans Kammler had Lizard DNA?... lol
maybe he passed away on Aldebaran...
but more likely Miami Beach or down in Rio or Argentina...
Von Braun? Rudolph, father of the Saturn V?
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/1999/12/nara121499.html

NASA loved their good lizardz.

:lol3:

Xhaosis

10-30-2008, 10:41 PM

Let me gather some strength, I am grateful, for the welcoming and acceptance here. I do not fear what so ever, to express my mind and thoughts. I have been on message boards before where I would awaken in the middle of the night in a panic.. Regretting my posts. Thinking I was being laughed at and ridiculed. In retrospect I was. But that is a tit for a tat.. As far as blonde's, I have experienced their presence in a dream/vision I had just a year ago or so.. She was beautiful not HUMAN for sure, what I meant about being pale was, her skin was not normal.. Yet accepting to human logic but not normal.. What I mean is it did not create stress or trauma trying to understand something out of our physical reality. Yet it was not right. She was associated with one of the darkest yet wisest figures I have ever communed with. Err thee only. What I mean by darkest is every time I try to see the face of this figure I cannot.. Not at all. Never ever ever.. Yet I can always remember hers... I wish I was one with answers on this one.. I just do not think anyone can explain this phenom.

PEACE

PodWORLD

10-30-2008, 11:59 PM

Hi there. I find no credibility in the Nazi/Blonde alien link which I've read connected with Hollow earth stuff too from that Byrd diary.

For those interested in Vril here is a link to the book by Edward Bulmer Lytton - Vril The Power Of The Coming Race. It's one of many books on Earth Mysteries on the site.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/vril/index.htm

There is also a book 'The Comte de Gabalis' which although a cabalistic allegory relates that the world is full of different elemental beings existing at dirrerent frequencies or elements. It can be taken many ways but the descriptions of these beings mirror current archetypes - Nordic, Reptilian etc. Check Discourse 2 for this. Discourse 5 tells of an event where the Sylphs appeared in aerial ships over France and even abducted men to show them their home before returning them. The book is from 1670.

None of it should be taken at face value but it's an interesting book and the notes are full of little nuggets too.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/cdg/index.htm

tom

11-06-2008, 01:52 AM

Doesnt,Jill look like the ruteledge eb.?:mfr_omg:

tom

11-06-2008, 11:23 PM

Maybe those that left the dropa stones had something to do with your race Chindera.

Seva

11-18-2008, 12:31 AM

spiritual_wanderer

11-18-2008, 03:22 AM

taadev

12-04-2008, 10:23 PM

Does that not sound like what the Nazi's wanted to create?
Blonde Hair Blue Eyed race? Why Blonde? Why Blue Eyed?
Didn't the nazi's have the flying saucer technology in the 1930's?
Wouldn't they abduct people to make themselves look like a space race?

Just a thought.

* What would be the reason behind an entire real alien race all being the same colors?

Peace,
Ampgod

This is funny as I too posted something similar on my first very long post. Likely too long for many to read, but it's CRUCIAL info as it's the keys to the Illuminati kingdom.

These features combined with the American power structure and its relationship to the Nazis, made me VERY uncomfortable. However, when one researches and finds Benjamin Freedman, one can understand why the Germans were mad as hell at the Jews.

The question as to why the masses were punished is the big one.. In those days they had no 'brain fingerprint', and you may recall we locked up, stock and barrel the Japanese.

The more things change....

However, it IS possible that a race could have evolved, and nowhere did I read they were all like this. 'Out there' like here, there are many cultures. (Assuming, this stuff on aliens is to be beleived. It, IMHO, is likely, as to me it seems typically arrogant human thinking to believe we're the only race in the universe.)
(When one KNOWS we have the ability to erase and plant thoughts, first rate testimony could have been merely a brainwashing....)