Australian Ground Crew Members?

[vesta]

Hi all,

just wondering if anyone here is from the great southern land and if so which area are you considering for bunkering down when the **** hits the proverbial?

I have friends in several states each with collection points that are ready to strike out and wait it out when the time rolls around....... just thought I might be able to sign post for anyone looking for areas that have been highlighted as gathering points.

Cheers,

Vesta.

[timelord]

yeah i was wondering the same, im from oz myself and was thinking something near the mountains running water lots of tree cover maybe some caves?

[P4BL0]

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[ForsakenFalcon]

the kimberly's I belive would be a very provideing natureal resourceable spot as long as there wasnt too many people and everything was used properly & You had adiquet shelter for the rainy season's.

[Steve-O]

Hi Guys,
thought id make myself known as the victorian connection...

i was gonna head straight for the snowy mountains, theres plenty of
remote areas to set up shop...
Also the greater alpine areas of Victoria also seem like a good location..:smoke:

Cheers Steve

[atama]

i'm going to stick it out with everybody else in town (small town, not a Capital). I think the dum-dums are going to need somebody sane to tell them what just happened. plus i don't think major catastrophe will hit Australia. Unless Russell Crowe comes home, then I'm going to Ecuador.

[Freedive]

Hi all,
I'm actually an italian GC member right now, but if all goes well should be moving to Oz next summer if not earlier - my wife is Aussie; in light of the possible nuclear scenario her and our 2 boys agree to relocate, just hope the timing is ok.
ciao,

[Lt Ripley]

Hi guys,

I'm from Melbourne, hi to everyone! I was hoping to find more Aussies on the forum, where is everyone? :)

I'm with Steve-O on this one. I'll be heading up to the mountains if indeed the "proverbial" hits the fan.

I'm looking forward to getting in touch with more Aussies, doesn't matter where you are, please make yourself known and make contact.

[Luminari]

i don't think major catastrophe will hit Australia. Unless Russell Crowe comes home, then I'm going to Ecuador.

:mfr_lol:

[Alex - Adelaide]

If anyone from Adelaide comes across this PLEASE get in contact with me as there aren't many "awake" people here. So if your reading this and your from Adelaide PLEASE add me. i have a few friends and my family who are making plans at the moment. So when the time comes we will be ready. and i think to have a small community which is expecting this, would have far greater chance of survival than just a couple of people learning to throw a spear at a kangaroo!

Thanks

:thumb_yello: Alex :thumb_yello:

[Alex - Adelaide]

Sorry for another post but.... Vesta do you know anyone in Adelaide and if so, do you know of any plans they may have in place?


- Alex

[vesta]

Hi A-ADL,

there are a few different groups that I'm aware of in your region. Most are looking at staying locked into the hills since the whole spine from Victor right on thru to the desert is loaded with quartz crystal and a this emits a huge amount of energy. (Also loads of resources and pedestrian paths this way).

I'll be talking to some folk over ur way in the next few wks and will be encouraging them to get onboard this forum so hopefully this will give you all a chance to connect.

Some of these folk are a little shy, others prefer the lone gunman approach. We'll just have to wait this out and see what choices they elect to make at this point.

Have you been for a drive up around the rocking horse of late? I know there's a few groups that meet out that way fairly regularly...

Cheers,

Vesta.

[justbe]

i'm going to stick it out with everybody else in town (small town, not a Capital). I think the dum-dums are going to need somebody sane to tell them what just happened. plus i don't think major catastrophe will hit Australia. Unless Russell Crowe comes home, then I'm going to Ecuador.

:lol3: Yeah I agree. S*$T will hit the fan when Russell gets back. What do you guys think will happen here in Oz?

[justbe]

Hi A-ADL,

there are a few different groups that I'm aware of in your region. Most are looking at staying locked into the hills since the whole spine from Victor right on thru to the desert is loaded with quartz crystal and a this emits a huge amount of energy. (Also loads of resources and pedestrian paths this way).

I'll be talking to some folk over ur way in the next few wks and will be encouraging them to get onboard this forum so hopefully this will give you all a chance to connect.

Some of these folk are a little shy, others prefer the lone gunman approach. We'll just have to wait this out and see what choices they elect to make at this point.

Have you been for a drive up around the rocking horse of late? I know there's a few groups that meet out that way fairly regularly...

Cheers,

Vesta.

Yes, apparently Adelaide was built on top of quartz crystal especially the CBD. Heres some info about the ancient Atlantian city http://thecrystalcity.net/info/info.html .
I have friends in Adelaide and will tell them about this forum. Cheers.

[Life Student, Lovemonger]

im from adelaide, near noarlunga im definitely in!! i can bring a few more enlightened ppl into the fold too. and some not so enlightened butwhom i am slowly bringing around.:smoke:

[vesta]

Bummer that this site wasn't a few wks earlier as I was only over that way a few wks ago and would have loved the opportunity to have met some of you for a brew!

Cheers,

Vesta.

[Global Nomad]

Hi informed people of earth - in Australia.
I live in Thirroul on the east coast 15 mins north of Woolongong.
I get the feeling this isn't the best place to be as
1. We're near the biggest population area of Australia.
2. We live right next to the sea on the eastern seaboard which, if there was to be a tsunami would come (apparently) from off the coast of New Zealand and hit the south east of Australia.
3. There's a giant mountain / cliffs behind us with almost no way of climbing up it ...
But does one change their entire life on a whim of internet catastrophe sites ... ?
I just don't know.
Marshall Masters of YOWUSA.com fame says it's more about the spiritual development side of yourself that matters more than the physical ... Can this be true ?

p.s. how the hell do you add a smiley face to this anyhow ...
:shocked:

Oh that's how !

[Tuza]

I live in Lara which is a semi-rural town between Melbourne and Geelong Victoria. Before I even saw the sites re Camelot and Avalon I myself self published a book on Lulu.com called Afternoon with James the Alien. It has some stuff I pick up (without meditating or anything) I just pick it up without thinking about it on what is going on, especially big things connecting aliens, ets, government cover-ups, secret experiments, that type of thing.

I still get that there is more than one possible time line. I also get that there are many, many realms of existence helping us at this time. Everyone we know that has passed over is watching and trying to help - just those alone who love us deeply - without all the others.

I am pretty calm at the moment. Sometimes very rarely I wake up in the middle of the night with a panic attack and that is a problem for me but that hasnt happened recently thank God. I think we need millions of ordinary people to invoke, meaning just ask for help and it will be there. This is what is happening at the moment I keep asking for help from everyone within light and I know it is done. Please, please all of you do this now, it really, really helps. Just a few words with intent, please.

[Global Nomad]

Tuza, can you directly 'talk' with beings on the other side?
If so, I'm extremely extremely envious !!!

Also how does one 'invoke' ? Should we really be asking for help - or trying to solve this ourselves ... ? Having typed that I realise that any help we could get would be great ... but having typed that - how do we know that the help we seek has no agenda of its' own ... ?

Do you get my meaning by this ?
:groupwave:

[stal]

hey

sign me up. i'm in western nsw, 800ks from sydney, 80ks from the nearest town. should be a safe spot. anything i can do to help, i will certainly try.

[P4BL0]

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[Nyssa]

Hi everyone, hope you're all well!

I think someone asked what would happen to australia, this is what I've heard.

My teacher Ramtha has told us when the poles melt, obviously the sea-level rises with all that displaced water, but also, that water carries a hell of a lot of weight. The earth is balanced on its axis due to weight being balanced. The weight moves, so does the planet shift to find its new centre of gravity. The land masses of the earth sit on like a skin (tectonic plates) which will be moving. Imagine the oceans like a dish filled with water, give the dish a shove...where does the water go? Everywhere! Huge tidal waves. Central Australia is all virtually at sea level, so just because you're inland doesn't mean you'll miss out on all the fun...make sure you have some height on you and possibly a mountian between you and the water.
We're lucky Australia is on one tectonic plate, New Zealand sitting on two will probably be ripped apart, before, I'm told, it crashes into the side of Ausralia. My teacher tells us that Australia will be pushed in a north-westerly direction, to end up an island off Africa. All the ash from volcano's errupting along the 'ring of fire' (Indonesia) will turn our red soil to black...which although infertile at first, becomes great soil to grow in. The ash will bring prehistoric plant life with it.
This is just earth changes (I know there's other things to consider). The earth is a living being and needs to shake off the parisites living on her skin. We're not greater than the earth and we need to be prepared for what's to come. The earth needs to do this.

It's easy to say I don't feel like it will happen, but that's only because it's not in your past as an accepted experience yet. It's completely foreign and frightening and the only real way to productively combat that fear is to be prepared. If you're prepared, who cares if it happens or not?! "Preparation is simple - just very, very inconvenient" - Greg Simmons.

There will be massive winds due to movement of the plates, Ramtha says nothing will survive above ground, so be dug in, and store food and water for up to two years, and when you have that, save more for 7 years. And store as many seeds as you can. I can't stress enough that this is not about fear. It's fear that makes people put their heads in the sand and insist that it won't happen.

Anyway, I'm not here to convince anyone, this was just for those interested in some details of what may happen here in Oz.

PS. If it does go down, you won't survive in the cities, they'll be ruthless, you'll be killed for you food or water. No one needs saving, we're all Gods, if you stay in the city, be clear that it's for your own agenda and not others.

And if you go to the mountians at the last minute, have food and water stored that you take with you, you won't survive long, even in the mountains, without it.

Best Wishes to you all, we're in for the ride of our life, will see you on the other side.

Nyssa.

[manda]

Hi
Ist it great to have a global forum!!!!
Im in Canberra ... again .. I keep returning to help with the shifts.
amanda

[justbe]

Hi everyone, hope you're all well!

I think someone asked what would happen to australia, this is what I've heard.

My teacher Ramtha has told us when the poles melt, obviously the sea-level rises with all that displaced water, but also, that water carries a hell of a lot of weight. The earth is balanced on its axis due to weight being balanced. The weight moves, so does the planet shift to find its new centre of gravity. The land masses of the earth sit on like a skin (tectonic plates) which will be moving. Imagine the oceans like a dish filled with water, give the dish a shove...where does the water go? Everywhere! Huge tidal waves. Central Australia is all virtually at sea level, so just because you're inland doesn't mean you'll miss out on all the fun...make sure you have some height on you and possibly a mountian between you and the water.
We're lucky Australia is on one tectonic plate, New Zealand sitting on two will probably be ripped apart, before, I'm told, it crashes into the side of Ausralia. My teacher tells us that Australia will be pushed in a north-westerly direction, to end up an island off Africa. All the ash from volcano's errupting along the 'ring of fire' (Indonesia) will turn our red soil to black...which although infertile at first, becomes great soil to grow in. The ash will bring prehistoric plant life with it.
This is just earth changes (I know there's other things to consider). The earth is a living being and needs to shake off the parisites living on her skin. We're not greater than the earth and we need to be prepared for what's to come. The earth needs to do this.

It's easy to say I don't feel like it will happen, but that's only because it's not in your past as an accepted experience yet. It's completely foreign and frightening and the only real way to productively combat that fear is to be prepared. If you're prepared, who cares if it happens or not?! "Preparation is simple - just very, very inconvenient" - Greg Simmons.

There will be massive winds due to movement of the plates, Ramtha says nothing will survive above ground, so be dug in, and store food and water for up to two years, and when you have that, save more for 7 years. And store as many seeds as you can. I can't stress enough that this is not about fear. It's fear that makes people put their heads in the sand and insist that it won't happen.

Anyway, I'm not here to convince anyone, this was just for those interested in some details of what may happen here in Oz.

PS. If it does go down, you won't survive in the cities, they'll be ruthless, you'll be killed for you food or water. No one needs saving, we're all Gods, if you stay in the city, be clear that it's for your own agenda and not others.

And if you go to the mountians at the last minute, have food and water stored that you take with you, you won't survive long, even in the mountains, without it.

Best Wishes to you all, we're in for the ride of our life, will see you on the other side.

Nyssa.

Thanks Nyssa for the info. Has Ramtha indicated when this might possiblely happen? I have read much about Ramtha, how have you found her teachings and have you completed her course? Its all sounds like doom and gloom, I suppose its always a matter of perspective.

[Johnno]

Hi all fellow Aussies. :original:
I'm from the Western suburbs of Melbourne which is in no way a safe spot. :sad:
I've just opened a "Melbourne/Victoria" thread for all South Eastern residents. All from this state or even elsewhere are welcome. :winksmiley02:
Lets get cracking on a safe place plan.
Regards,
DarkMatter

[manda]

I live in Lara which is a semi-rural town between Melbourne and Geelong Victoria. Before I even saw the sites re Camelot and Avalon I myself self published a book on Lulu.com called Afternoon with James the Alien. It has some stuff I pick up (without meditating or anything) I just pick it up without thinking about it on what is going on, especially big things connecting aliens, ets, government cover-ups, secret experiments, that type of thing.

I still get that there is more than one possible time line. I also get that there are many, many realms of existence helping us at this time. Everyone we know that has passed over is watching and trying to help - just those alone who love us deeply - without all the others.

I am pretty calm at the moment. Sometimes very rarely I wake up in the middle of the night with a panic attack and that is a problem for me but that hasnt happened recently thank God. I think we need millions of ordinary people to invoke, meaning just ask for help and it will be there. This is what is happening at the moment I keep asking for help from everyone within light and I know it is done. Please, please all of you do this now, it really, really helps. Just a few words with intent, please.

HI Turza
Its Been Calm since 8/8/8 now something has changed since 9/11 perhaps a stir up in the sub consciouss again...
It is so true that we need to gather as group and focus on expanding the Light. invoke or mass consciouness or oversoul.
It Is Time now to focus not on fear but on how we want things to be.
It is our key to freedom
Manda

[atama]

channel ten forum UFO story on some morning show.

https://members.ten.com.au/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=79786

join this forum and get the message across to the mainstream.

[manda]

Thanks Atama
watched the interview..via your link
great that it was allowed to air.

Have you seen much activity?

[paul9551]

Hi all, is there anyone from the goldcoast/ brisbane area, just a thought, but wouldn't it be wise to move away from the south australia to somewhere further north. there are 2 commodities that are on your side. Water and heat. Thats 2 less fundamental survival elements we need 2 worry about. they are in plenty supply up in northen territory and further west. I would rather be to warm and have enough water, (which supresses the appetite may i add) than be to cold and searching for food.

[Global Nomad]

Hey guys,
Agree with this :
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channel ten forum UFO story on some morning show.

https://members.ten.com.au/forums/th...threadID=79786

join this forum and get the message across to the mainstream.
------------------------------------------------------------------

But hate to put a spanner in the works as I would dearly LOVE there to be 'contact' and some Youtube people say it'll happen on the 14th of October apparently, but if any of you guys are into the 'shadow government' side of things ... this could all be a very dodgy manipulation by THEM, to have a fake landing, fake doomsday war or some attack by the supposed aliens, and then form this so called new world order to 'save' us from the alien invasion in the future ... hence the start of a 1984 (the movie) style era ... Does anyone else get this rambling messag or am I just crazy ? There's just a lot of talk of this on web sites such as P Camelot and Red Ice Creations ... Any thoughts ?
:blowup:

[Global Nomad]

Sorry to put another thing in here. Just really liked this link to a talk with David Icke. Thought you guys might be interested if you haven't gotten into the whole new world order thing ...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=david+icke&emb=0&aq=2&oq=david+ik#

[Global Nomad]

Sorry ... last one ...

And this one's really good too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AhbG4hLzto&feature=related

:trumpet:

[Life Student, Lovemonger]

other cool docos i have found are

THEDisclosure Project lead by Dr Steven Greer ( one of my personal heroes LOL)

out of the blue,

what the bleep do we know?,

billy meier the silent revolution of truth and the pleiadian mission, Must See! ( for at least 15 years i thought this was fake, I thought it is just too incredible a story and too much evidence to be true) now i am convinced otherwise.

Zeitgiest (number 1 internet video of all time i think),

David icke Freedom or Facisim ( he has done soooo much homework its not funny and although my verdict is still out on the very hard to get your head around the reptilian thing, the way he pieces together the Illuminati trails through history is damn near epic) well worth the 6 or 7 hour plus footage lol i sad EPIC!

Jaime Maussan and Santiago Garza - 2006 - Phenomenal UFO Activity From Mexico its in google video and has AMAZING footage in it

missing secrets of nikola tesla Must See!

The Illuminati - 1 of 4 - Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason (2005).avi
The Illuminati - 2 of 4 - Bush's Brotherhood of Death (2005).avi
The Illuminati - 3 of 4 - The Illuminati (2005).avi
The Illuminati - 4 of 4 - The Illuminati's Tarnished Crown (2005).avi

The New Atlantis Must See

The secret of the sphinx and edgar cayce

Heavy Watergate ( cold fusion doco) Must See

most of alex jones docos like endgame, and others that slip my mind

it could be said i am a doco junkie :) lol and there just the conspiracy ones :P

[atama]

Thanks Atama
watched the interview..via your link
great that it was allowed to air.

Have you seen much activity?

yeh we're seeing lights, nothing big big yet.

[atama]

DON'T BE SOOOO PARANOID. don't worry about the stupid Illuminati, if you have been learning about them then you know it is YOUR FEAR that feeds them.
if you react to these things out of fear then they already control you.

I dare the Illuminati to come and get me... you watch it won't happen.

[Lindsay]

Hi all, if your interested search youtube for Carlos Diaz ships of light, it has about 10 or so parts, is a bit slow to kick off but IMO is worth the watch.

Cheers, Lindsay.

[Anchor]

Hi, another GC member from NSW, live North Shore, and work in Sydney. Planning to move west next year if I get permenant residence.

A..

--
I am human becoming, help me to become
We are humans becoming, help us to become.
:wub2:

[manda]

Hi All


I Had the pleasure Of meeting one of our ground crew in person today.

I would encourage all of you to take the plunge and meet each other.

Trust does need to be built between us , I know. Sometimes a great risk brings benefit.

To talk freely is refreshing and rewarding.

Anyway today I met Vesta
What a wonderful Human, warm And Wise.
We Shared a bunch of Stories , and many pieces of puzzles clicked together.

So Thanks Project Avalon

[vesta]

Hi Manda,

thanks again for taking the time and trusting in the process to meet with me today.

Can I just say it was such an amazing and rewarding experience that I am sure we will build on it into the future.

Manda you have so many insights, and experience in so many different areas, it was wonderful to spend the time with a fellow ground crew member discussing a variety of subjects face-to-face.

This is how it all begins I guess, tentative steps towards building a wonderful new network. We are not alone and this forum allows us the opportunity to recognise that and work on sustainable relationships.

For everyone, pls do take the obvious precautions in organising any mtg with someone who you have only met online, having said that I also look forward to the opportunities of meeting with more of you in person.

I note many of us will be endeavouring to attend the Nexus Conference next mth.

Blessings to you all,

Vesta.

[Mattriks]

Hello Australien Kin

nice to see you here.

i've enjoyed reading this thread, and hearing our voices.

as i've enjoyed (the bumpy ride) of watching all the Camelot vid's.

i'm acutely conscious of the need to balance a precarious mixture of the survival and the spiritual.

I think they are ok to exist together. It feels true that we need to attend to the realities of our physical existence. this is a necessary step. and we know we don't want to be relying on our governments for this type of thing, or benevolent extra terrestrials. So new structures that can withstand heavy winds, storing food and water, going solar, saving seeds, planting gardens, getting out of the cities and choosing safe places are all high on the agenda.

As well as attending to these survival issues, and for exactly how to attend to these survival issues, we need to listen to the sound of our inner voice, join in group prayer and manifestation (avalon is great for this):original:, and thoroughly attend to our spiritual life and our internal selves. While it doesn't seem right to rely on 'them' to all of a sudden take control of meeting our base chakra needs for food, water and shelter (isn't that the side of things we're supposed to take of?), we are lucky enough to be part of a quickening process that is leading to mainstream awareness of the e.t phenomenon, and a world where real exchanges between us and beings from other worlds and thymes is a daily reality. :welcomeani:And so asking for help from the e.t's is fine by me. I join in the prayer for their help, as i simultaneously plan for my physical survival. i've come to believe it's ok to have a base chakra.:yikes:

Will the human race survive or not? well yeah, Hoagland says we always do, he seems pretty on to it to me. Henry Deacon talks about a few different timeline scenario's, but none of them is total oblivion. So we know that some of us get to carry on in some shape or form. Am I scared? **** yeah. Am I ok with that? yeah pretty much.

I guess my input to this thread is to say that just because someone is organising for their future based on a possible global (on whatever level) catastrophe, and looking to spread this message to help others organise in this same way, it doesn't mean they are acting out of fear. In fact, it might just be the sane thing to do.

I'm talking to me too, as much as you.:winksmiley02:

I live in inner city melbs and i'm trusting that these connections we are forming here and my own guidance will navigate gracefully and awkwardly to higher ground. pro found.:trumpet:

good threads to ya all

Mattriks.

[bowspearer]

I'm Andy and I'm on the Central Coast, up near the Entrance.

I'm not sure how much I'd class myself as spiritual. I was raised Catholic, but ever since abotu a year out from 9/11 I've sensed things slowly changing and getting worse with each passing day- like we were headed for something major. A guy in a chatroom showed me camelot 6 months ago and I've been here ever since, although there'd be alot I haven't read that you guys would have.

I'm not sure how much good I'd be to a community, but if it helps, I've got an Adv. Dip in Electrical Technology and a Dip in Telecomms Technology and I'm currently in the middle of a BA which I'd planned on turnign into teaching qualifications post grad (whether that can still happen though may be a different story). I'd definitely be keen in joining a survival group, provided there's room.

[vesta]

Hi Bow,

there's always room for another crew member!

It's not just about the tertiary qual's, though I'm sure those that you have would be gratefully accepted into any of the boards' communities depending on your choice of destination but the fact is you're here and expressing the desire to join up with other like minded ppl and contribute to a group!!!

That says it all friend,

blessings to you and yours,

Vesta.

[P4BL0]

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[gordon]

West Australia. Australia is already screwed because of our PrimeMinister Kevin07.

[Mattriks]

channel ten forum UFO story on some morning show.

https://members.ten.com.au/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=79786

join this forum and get the message across to the mainstream.

thats brilliant i watched it last night and forwarded it around thanks for linking to this. cracks in the wall u rippa.:naughty:

[manda]

Hey guys,
Agree with this :
-----------------------------------------------------------------
channel ten forum UFO story on some morning show.

https://members.ten.com.au/forums/th...threadID=79786

join this forum and get the message across to the mainstream.
------------------------------------------------------------------

But hate to put a spanner in the works as I would dearly LOVE there to be 'contact' and some Youtube people say it'll happen on the 14th of October apparently, but if any of you guys are into the 'shadow government' side of things ... this could all be a very dodgy manipulation by THEM, to have a fake landing, fake doomsday war or some attack by the supposed aliens, and then form this so called new world order to 'save' us from the alien invasion in the future ... hence the start of a 1984 (the movie) style era ... Does anyone else get this rambling messag or am I just crazy ? There's just a lot of talk of this on web sites such as P Camelot and Red Ice Creations ... Any thoughts ?
:blowup:

Thanks for tht Link Global Nomad:

From what Ive heard
the good contacters are coming in, sheilded from sight into 6 point systems, as their is still hostility around..

I have had 'dreams' of a false invasion .. it created so much confusion...

which altimately put everyone into an altered state
and therefore very Very Open to suggestibility.
NWO Robots instantaneously..

Their is heaps of Fake .. But then is it?

Have you noticed How confusion puts you into a place where you need to choose... but if some one offers you a solution to your problem you can deem them wiser than self... slightly more personal analogy to problem/ solution icke ..

See I can ramble toooo
Icke
Really REally puts it together well

White Divine Blessings Of Light
Manda

[manda]

Hi all, if your interested search youtube for Carlos Diaz ships of light, it has about 10 or so parts, is a bit slow to kick off but IMO is worth the watch.

Cheers, Lindsay.

Havnt Had A chnce to Watch it yet..
There is so much info out there!!!!

Thanks

[Lindsay]

I have noticed some people showing doubt in themselves and their potential for contribution to Ground Crews.

If you have come to this forum you obviously care about what's going on in our world, you have probably also got some concern that it's not looking all that good on several different fronts, you may be seeking confirmation of your feelings, observations and instincts by joining in to the dialog, its all good whatever the reason and whatever your opinion is.

If you have the desire to survive whatever is thrown at us in the future you already have IMO the most valuable skill, from that desire alone (regardless of training etc) will come the most productive outcome for individuals and groups, possably even leadership. Your desire to survive will ensure that you make the necessary descisions and take the risks etc when the chips are really down, don't doubt yourselves guys, everyone is valued.

Cheers Lindsay.

[manda]

Thanks Lindsay

Together We stand

[Tez]

I'm Tez, found the site - joined - and started to post last night just as the site went down, great to find you all here..
Had posted in another area then found this section so sorry for any double post.
Looks like the site is only days old though, and growing rapidly - hense the problem with going down last night. Looks like i have a lot of catching up to do.

I had been on some other sites as a member, but there was too much in-fighting starting to go on and nothing being discussed so decided to look around for a more cohesive and sharing group which i had been into on the last forum.

Am on NSW North Coast and wanting to shift to the NSW Tablelands in the next 6 to 12 months.
Have been collecting a heap of information and preparing over the past few years, and will share what i have when i find out what is already on the forum.

Cheers to all, :thumb_yello:

Tez

[Lt Ripley]

West Australia. Australia is already screwed because of our PrimeMinister Kevin07.

:lmao:

I suppose he's doing best he can under the circumstances. I don't think ANY party would be satisfactory....they all have their agendas and plans which are almost never the subject of elections. I remember the last year's election being all about WorkChoices and nothing about our pensioners benefits, and that has been in the media quite a lot lately.

I guess at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all the same. :sneaky2:

[Lt Ripley]

Hi everyone and welcome to all new Aussies!

I'm from Melb Victoria and I've been trying to find some suitable and possible locations in case anything comes to pass.

So far, I came up with the following options: Mt Baw Baw, Mt Hotham and Mt Bulla.

I'm trying to determine whether there are freshwater sources available at these locations and possible shelter sites. I think I'm going to have to hire a 4WD and actually make my way there for a bit of a recon.

What does everyone else think?

[eddiefibbro]

It is interesting that this thread goes by the tag "Australian Ground Crew". It was six years ago in Uki, N.S.W. I picked up George Green's Handbook for a New Paradigm. It has resided on a bookshelf (after a good read) until last week when I watched all George Green's interviews- Message for the Ground Crew- on Project Camelot. Something clicked. I got up, went to the book shelf and there it was- all ready to be activated by my attention! So now, it appears we are all activated in the opening interlude to the countdown to ascension. And here we all are in OZ ready to rock and roll.

We are in a fortunate location on the planet. It is our task to be certain that each of us- the awake and not-yet-so- have the opportunity to participate in the greatest event of our lifetimes. Lots of talk about "safe places" and community and all of us are feeling urgency in the matter of sorting the "where and with who" program to get through the last phase of tyranny that is on offer as an alternative to personal freedom.

I have been in the Great Brown Land for 26 years and resided throughout much of the Eastern half of the continent. Lots of wonderful places but, in thinking through the issues of sustainable living I have reached some conclusions.

The major CBD metropolises Syd, Melb, Bris, and the entire costal littoral where 80 % of the population live have concentrations of all that we are addicted to as diversion from the mundane pain of life. So, while we come awake in these places, we simultaneously intuit that we are not in a "safe place".

The other alternative, heading for isolation in remote locations carries its own set of problems. The idea of "self sufficiency" on a secluded block is, in my experience, an illusion. Only if we decide that the path to survival is to survive on the bare essentials is it remotely possible, though not probable. Doing without is not the same think as safety or freedom. Such self imposed asceticism is a lonely response to fear.

Experiencing these realization and thinking through the potential shape of a solution to the problem I came to some conclusions. There is a median ground that works for humans. We need critical mass to provide the mix of goods and services that are prerequisite to human comfort and happiness.We do not need that mass to be so massive that there is redundancy and oversupply of these goods and services.

Living in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane offers abundance of opportunity. It also carries the downside that the population density creates a life style that is not very much under our personal control. The potential of complex difficulty in the event that the normal systems of transport, food supply, energy break down, or social upheaval and government/military/police skullduggery occur is ever present.

Reflecting on this dilemma while listening to Bob Dylan one day I heard him say "Wish I was on top of some Australian Mountain Range, Got no reason to be there but I reckon it would be some kind of change". Change was what I was contemplating so, taking his advice, I began to investigate the possibilities.

So, here I am, at 1,980 feet above sea level on the western slopes of the Great Dividing Range. The population is 12,000, large enough to insure that we have that to which we are accustomed but small enough to insure us against the extremes we might imagine when lots of people are suddenly not getting what they need and want. We have less to fall apart here and more natural resources to fall back on should the time come.

So, Ground Crew Of Oz, I wonder if my thought processes approximate your own? Mayan Calendar folks will be across the CREST concept of Intentional Communities. The kind of intentional community available in a location like I describe has people living their life in a normal house on a normal street and in walking distance of every other intentional community member in town. There are, of course, practical issues to be faced, but it is the outline of one kind of solution available to us. What think you?

Check out my website at www.nationalofficeforthenoosphere.org or email me at edward@nationalofficeforthenoosphere.org. Perhaps we can initiate a dialogue that is win-win for planet/people and culture. And, check out our very successful Oz produced e-zine SECOND CREATION available for free download at www.mhmart.org or www.tortuga.com. In lakesh, Edward Planetary Warrior.

[Nyssa]

Thanks Nyssa for the info. Has Ramtha indicated when this might possiblely happen? I have read much about Ramtha, how have you found her teachings and have you completed her course? Its all sounds like doom and gloom, I suppose its always a matter of perspective.

Yeah, there's different dates for different events. He says there will be a world wide wake-up call spring this year 2008 that will effect coast lines around the world. It will get progressively more intense through 2009/11 like sunspots/solar winds and melting ice caps all resulting in a 3 degree shift which is when it will be wise to be underground. The earth has to turn over to heal herself, it's more about cleansing than anything else.

Love Ramtha and his teaching, I've found it the single most transforming teaching of my life. He makes so much sense where everyone else seems to draw blanks. You learn that everyone is God and that your thoughts create reality, that your whole purpose is to make known the unknown. It's all about realising potentials, and as you do, you become more and more aware of your Godhood.

I've been to events last year twice, and once this year so far. It's a school, so you go regularly. I wasn't aware of any immediate earth changes until i went to school (to learn about mastering my self and my reality) and that's when I heard it, July last year. It's not doom and gloom, it's self preservation.

We keep dying and reincarnating, not learning anything, Ramtha wants us to live long enough to integrate his teaching so it becomes our own personal truth/wisdom and not just a philosophy (the only way for it to survive the death/rebirth cycle) so that we actually move on to greater adventures beyond our current emotional addictions.

In the light of all that, it seems wise to be prepared and survive what's to come, which as far as he's concerned, is now a part of all future time-lines. That doesn't mean it's dire, it's just something to be ready for.

If you can't stand in front of a wave and stop it with your positive thoughts, then don't you think it would be wise to prepare?:wink2:

Nyssa.

[Genevieve]

hey all !!!:)

guess since iv e broken my own protocol i better say hello on this thread too

nice to meet such lovely people

such a breath of fresh air

in brief

im here for the long haul

have always known that ...and no im not looking forward to it - but
at the same time part of my spirit cant wait for it!!! i fight the inner turmoil every day

we all will soon
deal with it!!! lol

i have a HUGE empathetic thing to go thru apparently

i want to save everyone but inthe meantime i am struck motionless

i cant leave anyone anything behind - this is my dilemma

anyone else feel like this ?

ie: all my life i believed in vampires
not the draculas
but people who drained me of all of my energy!!!

i'm sure you know what i mean

and now i have talked too much again!!!! lol

its just a relief to ba able to talk about such things to people who MAY understand



good luck and all my love on your journey people

love from the rabbit

xxx

[Lindsay]

Hi Genevieve, yeah you are not alone, there are the vampires that you speak of, they maybe people you work with or they may even be people in your own family, but they can only take your energy if you give it, they can't steal it, it took me a while to get on top of this, now I am much happier, my energy is earned and I'm not giving it away for free, not that I wont help people infact I love to help people, I just don't absorb negativety like I used to, because the trade off is your energy and it can be hard enough keeping your own tank full.

Cheers, Lindsay.

[Avocado]

Hi fellow travelers.
I live in Adelaide (Glenside) I have no answers and no questions at this stage. I just keep my eyes and ears quite open. :wink2:I would like to move to the country sometime in the near future. I just want people know that I agree with the views expressed by Kerry and Bill and that I want to be part of the crew in Australia.:original:

[Lindsay]

Hi everyone, I live about 160km from Adelaide and am on the edge of nowhere, I could literally drive 2kms north and then after that I would not see another soul if I drove a straight line to Darwin. It is a great place but I won't be here if things get untidy, this area has been covered in sea repeatedly over history you can see the levels in the limestone cliffs, my guess would be that in the event of major climate upheavel that this area will go under again, any ground crew based here could get horrably wet:sweatdrop::thumbdown: Still I would love to see what you crew from "town" come up with.

Cheers Lindsay.

[vesta]

Hi everyone,

don't know what things are like in your immediate areas but have noticed around these areas that there is a distinct lack of refill on shelves that are meant to be holding 'basic staples' like rice, flour, sugar, dried milk powder, dried beans & lentils, so I am buying extra each time I'm in the shops and putting it away.

Also plain chocolate, since it is energy dense and easily stored - at least that's what this little chocoholic tells the family!!!:naughty:

Tea and coffee for the moment don't look to be an issue.

Of course all the high sugar, high fat junk foods are stocked to the rafters - I guess the thoughts are to keep us all fat, dumb and compliant.......boy do we have news for them!

My suggestion - stock up on things as you can afford to and build that pantry up folks, stuff that you can easily transport and that has a long shelf life.

Love & light folks,

Vesta.

[P4BL0]

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[master yowe]

Hello fellow Aussies Peter from Perth here, lets all keep being positive and stand in the loving light for we are spiritual beings first and formost and we have infinate power of love. Remember we have the great creator backing us up.
cosmic christ light to you all

[manda]

If you Feel Resonance with the symbolic avatar
and feel the need to assist with raising the frequency or vibration on the planet and beyond,

Send me a pm

I will send you a Free transcript from a contactee whom has been given the directives to assist. contains Meditations or focuses and is self explanitory

An exercise in freewill

[eleveneleven]

I'm currently in the Dandenong Ranges on the outskirts of Melbourne, and I can tell you with certainty, don't head for these hills, people are already rather feral (in the bad non-hippy sense) up here. I'm thinking of moving to the Western side of the Blue Mountains, as I am with all the folk that see mountains as being a prerequisite for survival.

Northern NSW though, is very well equipped for self sufficent living, and there are plenty of National Parks to live near and live off if neccessary, with fresh water a plenty. It is certainly a consideration, but nothing coastal, Kyogle provides some height. I've also heard Drake (further West) is an undiscovered oasis that one could lose themselves in.

Is anyone considering building underground and possibly camouflaged housing? Just curious on people's thoughts.

One thing I always remember though, is a number of years ago an article in Nexus, possibly New Dawn, interviewing American soldiers secretly stationed in Australia. The article had a lot of interesting information including claims by the soldiers that the American's caused the drought in Australia as an experiment, these soldiers claiming to have partaken in this experiment conducted by their airforce. Anyway, when asked where in Australia they would live, due to their inside knowledge, they said Northern Qld was the place to be when the proverbial hits the fan.

[Nyssa]

Hi eleveneleven,

Yes, I'm heading west of the Blue Mountains too. We (my mum and I) drove up around northern NSW, through Drake and back down the New England Hwy from tenterfield to armidale. We think now that anything east of Drake is on the wrong side of the mountain, but who knows, just being cautious I guess.

We're definitely building underground! The winds created from any shift of the axis will be unbearable to live in...everything will probably be flattened for a while!:lmfao:

Are you going to build underground? There's this guy Mark Eagle Eyes whose been building shelters for 40 years. He's a native american that's had prophecies handed down to him about what's to come. Here's a link to his site.

http://www.undergroundshelter.org/

It's a good place to start, even if you decide not to build in wood like he does.

I was just re-listening to one of my Ramtha CD in the changes, and he said that the axis shift would take place in 2010...I better hurry up and get ready!!!:shocked:

I saw a simulation of australia being engulfed in water from all this, and anything above the dividing ranges went under, so based on that I'd rule Queensland out, but again, who knows? We can only do the best we can with the information we've got.

Best of luck, Nyssa.

[sonique a. senshun]

Well hello family!
It's so very cool to see aussies all over the place, as i have been away, but i will be home soon! When i get back i am going to the ranges in nth nsw where we are manifesting a community of new paradigms (among many great communities there). Survival is one thing, but creating positive communities for the future NOW is where it's at, regardless of what many come. Nth nsw is the shiniest place re: positive vibes, freedom fighters, forests, survivalists and spiritual connectivity... to name a few. There are some high high places (ie: not Byron Bay) and amazing switched on beings n powerful mountains. Any one wanna join me? let's surf the endtime adventure in love n light - see u in the fifth dimension! :bleh:

[sonique a. senshun]

PS - i agree with edward.... secluded self sufficiency is very romantic, but having been there, done it, it's a HARD road.... we are social beings and better off in communities where the energy is dynamic and we can manifest positive power collectively.

Hiding out is just as much about raising your vibration beyond that which will attract calamity!

And checkout SECOND CREATION at www.tortuga.com... the next episode theme is PLANETARY ARTS: SURVIVING & THRIVING and it's out soon...

[eleveneleven]

Hi eleveneleven,

Yes, I'm heading west of the Blue Mountains too. We (my mum and I) drove up around northern NSW, through Drake and back down the New England Hwy from tenterfield to armidale. We think now that anything east of Drake is on the wrong side of the mountain, but who knows, just being cautious I guess.

We're definitely building underground! The winds created from any shift of the axis will be unbearable to live in...everything will probably be flattened for a while!:lmfao:

Are you going to build underground? There's this guy Mark Eagle Eyes whose been building shelters for 40 years. He's a native american that's had prophecies handed down to him about what's to come. Here's a link to his site.

http://www.undergroundshelter.org/

It's a good place to start, even if you decide not to build in wood like he does.

I was just re-listening to one of my Ramtha CD in the changes, and he said that the axis shift would take place in 2010...I better hurry up and get ready!!!:shocked:

I saw a simulation of australia being engulfed in water from all this, and anything above the dividing ranges went under, so based on that I'd rule Queensland out, but again, who knows? We can only do the best we can with the information we've got.

Best of luck, Nyssa.



Thanks so much for the link, underground really seems like a good option, and if not completely, at least perhaps built into a hill side if nothing else. I've actually been wondering about adapting one of these domes for undergound use, or partial underground living.
http://www.domaindomes.com.au/

I'd be interested to know where you saw the simulation, was it online?

11:11 :original:

[Tez]

Hi eleveneleven,

Yes, I'm heading west of the Blue Mountains too. We (my mum and I) drove up around northern NSW, through Drake and back down the New England Hwy from tenterfield to armidale. We think now that anything east of Drake is on the wrong side of the mountain, but who knows, just being cautious I guess............ Nyssa.

I lived in the mountains just out of Drake for several years - the altitude at the spot i was being only 300 metres above sea level- off the grid - and there are a lot of rednecks there too. ( i actually think it may be too low an altitude to be in reality.

I am presently in Bonalbo, and that is at 170 metres, too low again, and have been looking at the same areas around the Glen Innes to Armidale region which is about 1350 to 1440 metres - and yes i am being cautious too, maybe over cautious - maybe not.

Tez

[Shikasta]

Hi fellow 'ground crew' members. Graeme in Perth WA here.

I am feeling an inner nudge to come out of my hermit-crab shell and reach out and find kindred spirits who also feel compelled to explore practical planning for the future.

While I feel a tension in my gut about what may be about to unfold I am also aware at a deeper level that these are the times I chose to be a part of when I incarnated this time around.

If YOU are also awakening from a 'comfortably numb' slumber and realising that NOW is the time to get your s**t together then contact me, especially if you're in Perth or rural WA.

I've a sense that as we meet and talk the path will reveal itself. These are times where I feel we need to rise above the fear level of living and make choices together based on service to the Beloved within us all.

And of course, along the way, some laughter wouldn't go astray!!

Look forward to hearing from y'all.

Graeme

[Nyssa]

Hey Tez,

I had the same feeling about Drake but I didn't want to offend anyone, we couldn't wait to get out of there. The pub in the main st. really gave off that redneck vibe.

It's hard to find the right spot, I just keep focusing on how I'd like it to be and hopefully that will lead me to it.

Hi 11:11,

the domes are great in that an arch/sphere provides a lot of strength. You might want to consider things being thrown through the air if you leave your shelter partially unburried, like you see from twisters. Trees etc. Make sure your walls can withstand this, because winds will be hundreds of k's per hour for a while...if not greater. Windows are very risky, but burried, these houses provide a good alternative I think.

I saw the simulation at a Ramtha retreat, but I then saw another one on the news a few days after the retreat (syncronicity!)...maybe Today, Tonight but I'm not sure. You can go to google earth and they have a program you can download to see what rising sea levels will do...I haven't got around to downloading it, but was intending to, would be interesting.

It's nice to meet people who are on the same page, hey. People think your nuts talking about this stuff!:original:

Nyssa.

[AussieG]

Melbourne Discussion Group
Hi my name is Gary I would like to start of be part of an existing Ground crew group if you are interested PM me and I arrange a meeting

[master yowe]

Hello all Aussies, I just started up a new thread for West Aussies ground
crew members so your all welcome.

love and christ light to all

[eleveneleven]

Nyssa, it also occured to me just yesterday, that an easy was to create underground living would be to bury one, or a series of shipping containers with ventalation set up. One could create a number of rooms that way.

[Gifts]

Hi from Qld.

eleveneleven - love the nic - i see 11:11 too, though still havent worked out what it means.

Im thinking of going to the nexus conderence on the sunshine coast - is there one in Brisbane?

[Darcman]

Yo from Byron.

Not sure if anyone has google earthed our Canberra capital and noticed the sign of the Illuminati at capital hill, note the eye of the pyramid seems to be that water feature at parliament... what with our allegiance to the US by going to Iraq. and American air bases out in our deserts, is anywhere safe in Oz??
We have uranium / coal in our soils, a big commoditie for the US, Russia, China etc. What with our government forcing us to disarm ourselves after the Port Arthur massacre, can’t help but feel like a sitting duck here.
Subsequently....
I’m thinking more in lines with Kevin Costner’s movie "Water World" and getting on a boat and riding the tide out to NZ or Tas. prefer to take my chances against mother nature than hanging out in towns where civil unrest could run striffe

Mad keen sailor prefering to get off the main land with open water crewing experiance, would prefer to try my luck on the ocean. any one looking for smart crew and heading to land that sounds more viable hook me up.
Jack off all trades, many years of martial art experiance, a firm believer that we create our own reality.
However still trying to promote a colourful future by projecting positive thoughts, just a little concerned about continuning them here in Oz.

Dont panic
Darcman

[Gifts]

grr to not using spell check - i meant conference.

[eleveneleven]

Hi from Qld.

eleveneleven - love the nic - i see 11:11 too, though still havent worked out what it means.

Im thinking of going to the nexus conderence on the sunshine coast - is there one in Brisbane?


Hey Gifts, if you are interested this is the 11:11 website http://www.nvisible.com/

[Genevieve]

Thanks eleveneleven for the link to that site!!

Whilst I have always been aware that nothing happens by chance - this has been more than a gentle reminder of that.

Ever since digital displays became the norm (in my teens) i have always been struck by 11:11 - it seemed to jump out at me everywhere - and still does to this day. I used to mention it to my parents , then partner etc and ended up telling myself to be reasonable but then i always wondered why 10:10 didnt affect me that way - or 12:12?

I had NO idea there was even ONE other person that felt this phenomenon and once again i thank you for bringing this to my awareness.

So much to learn - so little time - and so many paths to decipher.

This is exactly the reason for this incredible revolutionary (for want of a better word) forum. Letting each of us find our own truth so we can resonate as one.

Words cannot express the admiration, respect and love i feel for the wonderful souls Bill and Kerry for setting up the framework within which this can happen.

[Tez]

Yo from Byron.........................what with our allegiance to the US by going to Iraq. and American air bases out in our deserts, is anywhere safe in Oz??....................... What with our government forcing us to disarm ourselves after the Port Arthur massacre, can’t help but feel like a sitting duck here.
Subsequently..........................
Dont panic
Darcman

Hi Darcman, hadn't read this post prior to having somewhat similar thoughts myself, posted it today, seems like we are a land in Limbo somewhat........ with total silence about how we stand in Oz - maybe it's for the seat of NWO.

Tez

[Nyssa]

Nyssa, it also occured to me just yesterday, that an easy was to create underground living would be to bury one, or a series of shipping containers with ventalation set up. One could create a number of rooms that way.

Mark Eagle Eye's said that it's a bit of a concern as to whether they're strong enough to burry. You have to reinforce them, and even then it's a risk.

Also, due to disturbances with the magnetic field of the earth, metal may become really magnetic and things may fly across the room...I don't know how likely this is, but that's what I was told. I know there are people that have used them though, and we're thinking of using them to burry supplies in, tools and stuff, seperate to our living area. So it's a thought.

Good to keep the ideas flowing though, and like I said, we're probably going to use them, just not to live in.

On a side note, we finally sold our house today!:biggrin2: I'm looking forward being a lot more prepared now that we can buy our land and start getting seriously ready.

The more interviews I read/listen to on Camalot, the more anxious I get about being ready! I just listened to George Green...I hope Australia is less effected than America, I'm not ready yet!!!:original:

Nyssa.

[bowspearer]

Hi Darcman, hadn't read this post prior to having somewhat similar thoughts myself, posted it today, seems like we are a land in Limbo somewhat........ with total silence about how we stand in Oz - maybe it's for the seat of NWO.

Tez

Judging by the latest George Green interview, it's a haven for the inner circle at the very least.

[Global Nomad]

Hey Nyssa, Couldn't you dig a hole for either a ex shipping crate - or the dome idea http://www.domaindomes.com.au/ and if you really want to be overkill (as you say probably quite rightly so that the crate couldn't stand the weight ... Couldn't you simply pour some concrete over it ? Once it's set you'd be right yes ?
It's extreme but maybe that would be the safest way to go ... But what do I know I'm a musician. I sometimes WISH I had experience in house building for this exact reason.
:yikes:

[vesta]

Hi folks,

just a thought but if you are interested in alternate building techniques you can check out the ANZUS home tours for your area.......... most of us that have opened our homes for these tours are looking to build in a more sustainable method and are also aspiring to leaving a far smaller footprint when we do leave this plane.......

I have been invited into some wonderful homes in the past - some of which have been earth-covered homes that are partially/fully dug into hillsides and then back filled after some waterproof membrane has been put into place in order to prevent water seepage into the rooms. I guess it depends how much assistance, time & $$$ you have available to get it all happening NOW!!!

ADL Hills are amazing - you go for a drive and see these little puffs of smoke coming out of the top of hillsides, you guessed it a home in the hill and all you see is a few inches of chimney.....and that's only if it's in use!

NSW, there are plenty of similar homes and that's the entire length of the state. You just need to be aware and start looking for small signs of these amazing abodes.

VIC, there are several significant areas of housing that fit the bill.

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Nyssa]

Hey Nyssa, Couldn't you dig a hole for either a ex shipping crate - or the dome idea http://www.domaindomes.com.au/ and if you really want to be overkill (as you say probably quite rightly so that the crate couldn't stand the weight ... Couldn't you simply pour some concrete over it ? Once it's set you'd be right yes ?
It's extreme but maybe that would be the safest way to go ... But what do I know I'm a musician. I sometimes WISH I had experience in house building for this exact reason.
:yikes:

Yeah, I think that you could. As long as the crate held the weight of the concrete while it set. But, a shipping container is small, hard to live in for a few months - let alone a few years...I don't know how long it will be, depends on where you are.

I have no real building experience, but the more you talk to people who do, the more of a handle you get on it. In the beginning I had no idea, but interest in a subject makes it really easy to learn about it.

I've had over a year to adjust to the idea now, and it doesn't seem freaky or extreme to me now, just outside social acceptance and consciousness. Hey, I'm an artist, so I'm no better off than you! That said, I'm not in a bad position either.

I just watched this documentry called "Garbage Warrior". Great film about completely self sustaining housing, absolutely brillant, whether you want a UG or not, this is worth a watch.

Nyssa.

[vesta]

Hi folks,

Michael Reynolds is an eco warrior of the finest spirit and I have been interested in housing designs for yrs.

That said so many councils have issues approving structures that aren't 'standard' construction it is just too much of a challenge for most of us!

I recommend that movie Nyssa and also there's a movie called 'Peak Oil' that I suggest you watch if you can find it - it's certainly not sold in K-Mart or Big W and u can't rent it from too many video shops but it's worth hunting down - I took the other half and kids along to see it and they walked out pale with all the info contained about what life could become!

Set up your homes for as much self-sufficiency as you'll be able to maintain from the beginning is all I'll say to you all!!!

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Reunite]

Yo from Byron.


. What with our government forcing us to disarm ourselves after the Port Arthur massacre, can’t help but feel like a sitting duck here.




Dont panic
Darcman

For anyone who is interested in how Martin Bryant was framed Nexus published really good articles in three parts on The Port Arthur Massacre. You will need Adobe reader to open the links. I know for some people researching into the NWO is a distraction. We should be def. focusing more of our time on raising our vibrational energies to higher frequencies however these articles are a really good read if you are concerned about our own issues in Australia.

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=29&Itemid=71

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=28&Itemid=71

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=27

[mysticphoebos]

Hi fellow Aussies,

Just throw in my two cents worth, Im from Sydney and in the last few years had a really bad feeling about the place, I had dreams of friggin tidal waves going over the Harbour Bridge etc, anyway Im not nuts but had to follow my intuition, I grabbed the kids and Mrs, threw in a hundred k plus job, sold the house and moved to SA to a remote area in the Flinders Ranges, I don't know what it is but my soul feels better for it, I would not have done it I guess if it was not for my little ones, I just had a voice that kept nagging saying get the hell out. I have told my brother, sisters etc, I told them to get out, they feel ok staying, probably think Im nuts, anyway thats my story.

And by the way the LibLab government are illuminati controlled turds.

Cheers.

[vesta]

Hi MP,

I love the Flinders and if you're at the nthn end think you're very lucky to be enjoying the lifestyle that goes with the area.

We have enjoyed camping throughout Wilpena, Leigh Creek and Arkaroola areas. Have also stayed with friends out at the test range to your west..... again a different lifestyle choice but interesting!

My belief is that we'll each be told were we need to be and get ourselves there as we can best do so. Perhaps your extended family need to be where they are in order to fulfil their life agreement/contract. I'm sure if you feel as positive as you do about your move that it has been the right one for you and yours.

Perhaps you are the lighthousekeeper for that area???

Blessings,

Vesta.

[nOslaves]

Yo from Byron.

Not sure if anyone has google earthed our Canberra capital and noticed the sign of the Illuminati at capital hill, note the eye of the pyramid seems to be that water feature at parliament... what with our allegiance to the US by going to Iraq. and American air bases out in our deserts, is anywhere safe in Oz??
We have uranium / coal in our soils, a big commoditie for the US, Russia, China etc. What with our government forcing us to disarm ourselves after the Port Arthur massacre, can’t help but feel like a sitting duck here.
Subsequently....
I’m thinking more in lines with Kevin Costner’s movie "Water World" and getting on a boat and riding the tide out to NZ or Tas. prefer to take my chances against mother nature than hanging out in towns where civil unrest could run striffe

Mad keen sailor prefering to get off the main land with open water crewing experiance, would prefer to try my luck on the ocean. any one looking for smart crew and heading to land that sounds more viable hook me up.
Jack off all trades, many years of martial art experiance, a firm believer that we create our own reality.
However still trying to promote a colourful future by projecting positive thoughts, just a little concerned about continuning them here in Oz.

Dont panic
Darcman

Hi Darcman, i am am thinking along these lines as well, so much so i sold my house have been building my own sail boat for the last year and a half. Almost ready to launch, maybe a couple of weeks. It's a 31 foot catamaran. Only trouble is i dont know how to sail. Ha ha. Thats not completely true, never sailed of shore. I have google earthed to many hours of east coast Aus, Tas Have a few places in mind. and also have contacts in the New Zealand sailing community. I have sent you a pm give us a call i am just down the road from Byron.

nOslaves

[mysticphoebos]

The NWO population Terrorists are at it again.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23467713-910,00.html

This country has had a gut full of this stupidity, no wonder everyone is talking revolution, a peaceful one I hope.

[vesta]

Hi all,

just thought I'd let you know that the interview by Kerry & Bill R with Bill Deagle this morning underscores the importance for all of us to be ensuring our readiness for the times ahead.

Bill D makes specific mention of Australia a few times throughout the interview and I believe he's letting us know that we not only have a small window of opportunity to change things but to actively participate in bringing about change to this current timeline we are travelling on, this was confirmed by Kerry's statements as well! Though both highlighted the fact that physical as much as spiritual preparation was needed by us all, so pls take the time to listen to the interview, which is a little lengthy but not as much as some others.

Note for K & Bill R, many thanks to you for having gotten this out as quickly as you have done. I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the conference to hear you both speak and share some insights/experiences I have had with you too...... Enjoy the trip to our beautiful country, I'm sure you'll be amazed at what you might discover here!

Blessings to all of you on this journey,

Vesta.

[Tez]

Hi all,

just thought I'd let you know that the interview by Kerry & Bill R with Bill Deagle this morning underscores the importance for all of us to be ensuring our readiness for the times ahead.

Bill D makes specific mention of Australia a few times throughout the interview ..............so pls take the time to listen to the interview, which is a little lengthy but not as much as some others.

Vesta.

Hi Vesta, i downloaded and listened to it, need to relisten a few times to put it all into perspective.
Also have gone through the other posts relating to the call , and need to have some more time listening to the global messages.

Tez

[Anchor]

I would be dissapointed if any of you thought that the interview told us anything which we didn't already know.

I found the whole thing to be put forth in an extremely negative manner.

I do agree with Vesta though, not because of the interview, but just because she is right :)

We do need to have made preparations physically, mentally and spititualy, so that we can help ourselves and eachother through the times ahead.

A..

[vesta]

Hi Tez,

agreed - I think from the gist of the msg we, (AUST & NZ), will be relatively in far better shape than others but still need to undertake preparations for a little further down the track..........

Will look forward to furthering this discussion when we meet.

Blessings,

Vesta.

[vesta]

Thanks Anchor,

it does come down to personal readiness in every conceivable way and with that comes building our networks, knowledge and information - let's work on building a positive connection with each other to prepare the path ahead for us here!

Look forward to seeing you soon too Anchor,

blessings,

Vesta.

[Brinty]

It's interesting to see other folks' views on how best to survive the coming days. Also their areas of choice to flee to. Up to 1994, I had lived my entire life in New Zealand. The first 39 years in Auckland, then two years in Wellsford, north of Auckland. In 1979 we moved down to Tauranga in the Bay of Plenty where we lived at Minden until the area was affected by a landslide after a '100 year event' rainstorm.

In 1986 we moved out to Kati Kati, still in the Bay of Plenty region, where we were happy to stay until the financial situation ending with the stock market crash of '87, meant we had to put our home on the market. We were fortunate enough to find a buyer and soon moved to Murupara, south of Rotorua at the northern end of the Central Plateau, where we were able to freehold a 14 acre hobby farm.

Since moving to the Bay of Plenty area both my wife and I had had vaguely uneasy feelings that we couldn't put our fingers on let alone speak about. We then gradually became aware of some mildly disturbing premonitions. Mt Tarawera was a volcano that burst into life in 1886 causing death and destruction over a wide area when the whole mountain region, which was 17km long, split in two. White Island out in the Bay of Plenty has its active crater vent open on one side with only a few metres of volcanic rock separating its floor from the water in the bay. The floor of this horseshoe-shaped crater is below sea level.

The central area of the North Island of New Zealand, from Lake Taupo (which is the caldera of an ancient massive eruption), north-east through the Bay of Plenty and out to White Island, is an active area where you will find Rotorua's thermal area, Mt Ruapehu (active volcano), Mt Ngauruhoe (active), Mt Tongariro (active),and White Island (active).

All these areas are connected by underground lava beds and it occured to me that if a tsunami were to flood White Islands crater with seawater, the resultant volcanic activity could split the North Island in two. With these thoughts in our minds, my wife and I sold our little farm and moved to Australia in 1994.

Nothing could convince me to move back to that area again. Time will tell if we in fact made a wise choice of where to relocate. And that time may be fast approaching.

[vesta]

Hi Brinty,

welcome to the Aust GC member thread!:original:

It is interesting that you felt that way though not necessarily surprising given the regions dynamic history!:wink2: That entire region is very magnetic for me - I think I have an affinity to the fire elements.........and there's plenty of them there!

I also believe you'd be correct in the influx of seawater into the volcano caldera - a split of the nth island might even produce a tsunami that would have considerable impact on the east coast of this country...

Glad you and your wife have found your patch here in rural Qld.

Look forward to more chats about your plans and the region that you now call home.

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Brinty]

Thankyou Vesta for your kind words. I must confess that I was of two minds whether I should post such a gloomy picture. I must also admit to hoping that if I did, someone would make the connection between the possible fate of NZ's North Island and the effect it would have on Aussie's east coast should such a scenario occur. I feel it is best to be aware of each and any possible event so that we can prepare for them.

I'm reminded of an insurance companie's motto from my New Zealand days . . .

"It's better to have insurance and not need it, than to need it and not have it."

[vesta]

Brinty,

it's actually not such a stretch as there has been some recent research done in the Wollongong region that indicates in the rock strata the evidence for a large tsunami having hit the east coast in the not too distant past. (This was reported earlier this yr if you wish to follow up on your own research). We have located ourselves inland away from the coast but as you said that's our insurance that we hope never has to be used - most of my family have settled in and around NSW coastal areas...... When you start looking at the evidence and consider recent tsunami events overseas it's not too hard to put things together as a plausible geological event.

Let's hope it's the non-event of our lifetimes - :wink2:

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Brinty]

On the subject of tsunamis vesta, there is a book I read back in the 60's that fair gave me the willies. If you can get hold of a copy, it paints a horrifying picture. It's "Earth In Upheaval" by Immanuel Velikovsky. His theories have been rubbished by science in general but they are no worse that what we are coping with at this time.
He actually wrote a series of books but the two most pertinent ones were, "Worlds In Collision" and the one I mentioned above. They actually describe a Nibiru type collision or close encounter. Mind blowing stuff.

Cheers,
Brinty

[vesta]

Brinty,

thanks for the book suggestions, the 'Worlds in Collision' sounds vaguely familiar to me....not sure why though perhaps I've read it many yrs ago as well???

I have an interest in tectonic plates and earth movements, again I think it comes down to the fire elementals that are around with all that friction creating sparks :winksmiley02: The kids and I rode out a biggish 5.? in Te Anau in January, when we were over visiting some rellies and they were greatful to have been on land to feel it rather than on the lake at the time!
We also felt some bump & grind a few yrs back in San Fran and my husband has been in Rabaul for an 8.0 and as a family were in Newcastle for the 5.5 - I guess you could say we like to shake, rattle and roll!!!:wink2:

The GDR is the result of volcanic activity many aeon ago and is dotted with cave systems along it's length. Makes for some interesting camping trips!

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Brinty]

Tectonic plates and pole shift are the topics of Charles Hapgood's "Path of the Pole" one of his many interesting books. You would find it a gripping read vesta. It has a foreword by Albert Einstein who thought Hapgood's theories were "electrifying."

[Buruso]

Hi Brinty, I'm from Tauranga too, I came to Brissy in the early eighties. I always thought that White Island had the chance of blowing up one day, I've been looking for possible causes of disaster sized tsunamis for the west coast of Australia, previously i considered how much affect a California earthquake would have on Brisbane, i think it would have to be massive to generate enough swell to pass both Morton and stradbroke, maybe we would experience a 5 to 10 mtr tidal surge. On the other hand if White island blew up on a smaller scale because it's facing away from us nothing would happen but on a scale large enough to split the north island in 2 the would cause a few problems along the coast, so a plauseable theory is that a California earthquake could cause a wave large enough to put water into the crater of white island which in turn could have the capacity to split the North Island. Does any body know how water in the crater would generate enough energy to split the island in two. (any links to websites would be great)

[Brinty]

It's not so much the height of a tidal surge or tsunami that is the thing that causes the damage, but the wavelength from trough to trough. Imagine a swell that is say, 5 metres high with a distance of 100 metres between troughs. For ease of explanation, and using a mathematical formula, picture this swell as a triangle 100 metres at the base and 5 metres to the top. You would finish up with an amount of water that would be contained in a rectangle 50 meters by 5 metres or, put another way, 250 cubic metres of water for every metre of the wave's width.

A cubic metre of seawater weighs over a tonne so if a wave was of the dimensions mentioned above, there would be the pressure of 250 tonnes pouring onto the east coast for every metre width. Increase the wavelength by tenfold to 1 kilometre and the weight of water would also be multiplied ten times to 2500 tonnes per metre width.

Scary eh? But we've left one other factor out of the scenario - the speed the wave is travelling at. If it were travelling at say, 100 kph, can you imagine the effect it would have? How far inland it would travel? Think on it this way - there is a mass of water weighing 2500 tonnes traveling at 100kph and it is 500 metres long.

If you still have difficulty with that picture, then imagine a runaway train that is 500 metres long consisting of a string of carriages five metres high and filled with water, travelling at 100kph. Now imagine a wall of these runaway trains, side by side for as far as the eye can see.

If it weren't for The Great Dividing Range, I reckon Alice Springs could get a tad damp.

[vesta]

Hi Brinty,

it seems I have several books to add to my ever-expanding library.......what to do??? LOL I share them around with like-minded souls of course! :naughty:

Throwing cold seawater into a pressure cooker like the caldera of White island could theoretically set off a chain reaction in the Nth Islands lava system and is certainly not something I would like to see occur.

I am also keen to see how the volcanic system matches up with the earths ley line grid - just to see if there's any correlation!

Blessings,

Vesta.

[nOslaves]

nOslaves

[nOslaves]

Hi all, just a little intro on this thread
I have sensed a crash coming for about 2 years and sold my house and got out of dept, i thought it was going to be another year before any kind of crash, but here we are its on our door step. I stumbled across Bill and Kerry earlier this year when a back problem laid me up for about 3 months. I basically spent 3 solid months educating myself on the many layers of control we hand our power over to. I mean "we" as a collective. dont take that personally:thumb_yello:
I feel as though i have been through every kind of emotion possible in discovering a bigger picture in how the world is operating. I dont think i need to name them.
Right now i am feeling ok about it all, all though a little anxious.
I have many building, gardening, martial arts, fishing, hunting skills, so maybe these will come in handy.

Peace to all
nOslaves

[firefly]

Hi! nOslaves, Yes I too have been feeling that the crash is coming and have done for some time, can't believe its almost here. I tried to tell my friends 10 years ago about the nwo before I moved to Binna Burra. They thought I was crazy, so I never discussed it with them again and in the meantime so many more people are now aware of it. Of course you know that the illuminati are behind this economic slide into oblivion. They are pure evil and worship lucifer and they think they own this planet. Youtube have a series called 'The Arrivals' although its long about 42 episodes, if you get a chance to watch it, its mindboggling, however, you have to have an open mind.

firefly

[vesta]

Good morning all,

have woken up this morning to see our AUSD has hit 0.66 against the USD overnight.......... as I mentioned to Pabs last night a friend of mine in the banking industry told me yesterday he only crawled out from his foetal position under the desk to attend an emergency mtg late yesterday afternoon. We are about to be hit and hard for our reserve bank sticking it's neck out to offer respite to the Aussie population. Not good folks!

Love, light and blessings to us all,

Vesta.

[Tez]

Good morning all,

have woken up this morning to see our AUSD has hit 0.66 against the USD overnight......... We are about to be hit and hard for our reserve bank sticking it's neck out to offer respite to the Aussie population. Not good folks!

Love, light and blessings to us all,

Vesta.


Yes Vesta, i was listening to the ABC Radio news until late last night, and hearing how the Au$ fell drastically, then climb back a few cents late last night. Just to think a few months ago we had climbed to over 90 cents..............
Not a good time ahead for quite a long time............

Tez

[Brinty]

Reading through this thread, there are a couple of things that caught my eye. The first was a suggestion that 300m altitude might not be high enough. The second was the concept of going underground. It occured to me that burying a shipping container or two isn't a silly idea provided you were above 300m. It further occured to me that getting said containers above that altitude would take a fair amount of tugging and pushing after which you would then have to dig a hole to drop them into. Dunno about anyone else, but I'd be bloody knackered by then! :sweatdrop::sweatdrop::bleh:

[Darcman]

Hi folks
Ive noticed a few of you are appearing from the northern rivers district. you may be interested in this link http://www.coalitionforhumanity.com/index.htm seems to be a Byron crew forming outside of projectAvalon

Firefly did you check my post about google earthing canberrra and look for the eye of the pyramid at capital hill, am curious of your thoughts?

Take care all
Darc
Also i urge those interested in money to see the new Zeitgeist Addendum at http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ very pertinent to the current state of econimic's:lightsabre:

other alternative solutions... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQXGzrmubJg&feature=related

[Tez]

Hi folks
Ive noticed a few of you are appearing from the northern rivers district. you may be interested in this link http://www.coalitionforhumanity.com/index.htm seems to be a Byron crew forming outside of projectAvalon

,,,,,,,,,,

Couldnt access it from that URL, but could from http://coalitionforhumanity.com/, thanks Darcman for the link

Tez

[firefly]

Sorry Darcman, will have to check it out Fri. and let you know. And yes am aware of the Coalition for Humanity, but thank you.


Friendship and Love
firefly

[Tez]

Hi folks
Ive noticed a few of you are appearing from the northern rivers district. ..........
Darc


Yes, i have been having some good email exchanges and a phone exchange with Firefly recently, great to have a relatively close by member to chat to
Tez

[vesta]

Hi all,

glad to see the nthn rivers region is really starting to form up for another GC......do any of you others besides Tez think you might be able to make it to the MB&S meet up on Nov 8 in Sydney?

Blessings to all,

Vesta.

PS My friend has resumed his position beneath his desk decrying this as a groundhog day.........:thumbdown:

[vesta]

Bump,

hope you're all OK out there and staying safe and well into your preparations - which would explain why we're all a bit quite on the threads at the moment.........

Bill & Kerry,

if you're still here in Oz does that mean you'll be around to attend/speak at the Mind, Body & Spirit Festival in Sydney during early Nov???

Blessing to all,

Vesta

[vesta]

Hi again all,

just while I think of it the question was raised during discusion between Manda, Misfit, Pablo and myself last w/e as to the availability of native bushfoods.

I was wondering if perhaps the different regions GC's could look into this and perhaps post what was readily accessed in their area for others that may consider the area for relocation or transition through and be needing to supplement their food sources?

Love and light,

Vesta.

[Tez]

............Bill & Kerry,

if you're still here in Oz does that mean you'll be around to attend/speak at the Mind, Body & Spirit Festival in Sydney during early Nov???

Blessing to all,

Vesta

Now that would be great, wouldn't it. BUT the MBS is still a few weeks away

....I was wondering if perhaps the different regions GC's could look into this and perhaps post what was readily accessed in their area for others that may consider the area for relocation or transition through and be needing to supplement their food sources?

I am trying to get info from the local aboriginal corp as i had heard they previously held bushfood information talks, i had already obtained a booklet they have as a guide for indigenous communities called "Starting a Herb or Bush Tucker Business" which has some interesting information in it.
On the back it states that "This Document is available as a PDF on www.nrrdb.com.au" Click Here (www.nrrdb.com.au)

:original:

[vesta]

Hi Tez,

you're right about the timing but I was hoping that Bill & Kerry might be sniffing around a few good stories on this great sthn land 'cause there's plenty of that here and would give them the opportunity to broaden their reports to increase news of the sthn hemisphere - a girl's gotta dream about something besides shoes right??? :mfr_lol: Seriously though, I believe that there are groups of ppl that have 'retired' to certain areas around this great land who for a few hrs of your time and a few drinks will more than happily share their information and it is just as relevant today and into the future as it was a few yrs ago when they were still working........ our whistle blowers are a bit more laid-back and wait for ppl to ask the questions rather than coming forward saying I need to tell someone!:wink2:

Thanks for the food link, I think it's really important for us all to have that sort of knowledge to hand, because should we need to move from our now current area of residence I am certain the time of yr and food availability will influence our decisions as to how/where we travel........ so this is a call out to other GC's around the country for similar information to share amongst us all.

Blessings to all,

Vesta.

[wags]

Any idea’s of how we can still communicate should this site be closed, or indeed if, the net goes down.
Wags.

[Tez]

Any idea’s of how we can still communicate should this site be closed, or indeed if, the net goes down.
Wags.


My thoughts on this are based on, mainly because Oz, and indeed all of its individual states are so large, that trying to get the word out to many in all areas so that all can have access to a "local" GC area, and each local area can also interact as one if possible due to extremes of distance.

Making contact and exchanges of contact information, as necessary.
Just like the October and November meeting already arranged if possible and to be able to build on community from there.

Biggest problem at this stage is that many are so widely dispersed that regular contact/meeting may be virtually impossible, but at least if we are able to maintain a list of each of out contacts that we are able to establish, if the 'net goes down we may still have phone contact or some other arranged method of keeping that contact..............
As an example, my closest contacts from here, timewise by road, are 2, 3, 3-1/2, and 5 hours away.

Would like to hear a few thoughts on this as well...........

Cheers, Tez

[vesta]

Hi Tez, Wags and all GC's,

I think this is so important and why we all need to be able to make that initial contact with others in our 'immediate vicinities' and also build contact's within other regions as well........... if it all goes down and we have to rely on some really old-fashioned methods of comm's and movement then it would be nice to have an already established network on whom we could :

(a) rely &
(b) have trust in

For myself, I have started by using a map of this country and drawing concentric, radiating rings around my current location. I am then populating information onto this map about which GC member's are in those areas and what food/water/shelter is available. I have also been annotating mileage by road and appx times expected to take to reach said areas under duress - we need to be real about the fact that there may be roads that are blocked, (like when the equine flu outbreak occurred and tptb prevented travel to/from certain parts of the state........). I have made my map purchases those of topographical maps as these also indicate far more accurately the rise and fall of the land, just because on a flat map it looks the shortest route doesn't mean you can use it - unless you've got abseiling equipoment in your backpack.........:naughty:

That is the sort of thing and more that I wish to discuss with you all when we do catch up.

Blessings,

Vesta.

[vesta]

Hi all,

this has been getting advertised on Channel 7 this afternoon and don't know how many of you are aware of this "special programming", here's the link:

Minding Your Money - Seven News Special
(30)6:30pm - 7:00pm


6:30pm - 7:00pm | Seven Business and Finance, Closed Captions
David Koch presents an exclusive Seven News Special on minding your money during this time of economic crisis.
Record to TiVo

http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/?hour=16&min=13&date=12&mon=10&year=2008

Don't know how much detail will be in it or the exact content but should be informative for we Aussies at least on were things are currently at and what will happen in appx 16 hrs time when and if the markets open for trade!

Blessings,

Vesta.

[vesta]

Hi all,

here's another link to a ninemsn article from less than 20 mins ago by our PM stating 'Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced the government would guarantee all deposits being held in Australian financial institutions for the next three years'.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=645728

I guess it's really important for all of us to stay informed about our $$$ and what the fallout will be for all of us 'cause I don't think tomorrow is going to very pretty - kinda like Friday ....

For NSW GC member's here's another link, looks like we're about to start paying our dues, expect the already eroded state services to decline further......

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=645735

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Peace2all]

Hi All, We are also from Vic, North East suburbs. Family with boys, pugs and a few extra teenagers that will probably land here. We too are probably not far out enough so the Vic mountains look promising as back up. Does anyone have any information of caves in Victoria? Also VESTA please explain more on Quartz line in Victoria. We are looking into building a HUGE CLOUD BUSTER for those towers and good vibes... if you haven't yet and have the time...look into ORGONITE. Great to see some fellow Aussies here we were starting too feel like aliens...pardon the pun!!!
Some useful tips.... MMS builds up immunity and cures for avian flu. Its hard to find but finally found www.transformation2012.com.au In Melbourne, with some very useful products.
Also stock up on; Garlic, Vitamin C, Collodial Silver, seeds (EDEN SEEDS for nonhybrid) GET FIT... Pep

[Peace2all]

Hey guys,
Agree with this :
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channel ten forum UFO story on some morning show.

https://members.ten.com.au/forums/th...threadID=79786

join this forum and get the message across to the mainstream.
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But hate to put a spanner in the works as I would dearly LOVE there to be 'contact' and some Youtube people say it'll happen on the 14th of October apparently, but if any of you guys are into the 'shadow government' side of things ... this could all be a very dodgy manipulation by THEM, to have a fake landing, fake doomsday war or some attack by the supposed aliens, and then form this so called new world order to 'save' us from the alien invasion in the future ... hence the start of a 1984 (the movie) style era ... Does anyone else get this rambling messag or am I just crazy ? There's just a lot of talk of this on web sites such as P Camelot and Red Ice Creations ... Any thoughts ?
:blowup:

Your not crazy, we have heard it all over the place regarding 14th october. Reverse speaking say its suss, others though are saying its the "good guys", Galatic Federation arriving.. who knows... wouldnt recommend getting on any craft, no matter what!!!

[Tez]

I came across this post called "Safe Zone tool for the Ground Crew" in the forum at https://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3599 which has a link to a website Safe Places dot Info (http://www.safeplaces.info/) which is an interesting site to visit, and maybe learn a few things that may be hazardous to your location.

I looked at my present location, as well as where i would like to be, and was able to ascertain where the likely hazard areas would be in those locations...........

Tez

[Buruso]

Here's the link to watch the kochi money matters special
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX3da6sqfEk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU2GmCeV0RQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cJtWN-X_o4&feature=related
I think they were worth a look
Cheers

[Anchor]

Collodial Silver

Do you know a good source for this in NSW ?

[Darcman]

Any idea’s of how we can still communicate should this site be closed, or indeed if, the net goes down.
Wags.


Wags I am an IT WAN Consultant. Whose resourcefulness depends on the access of information on the NET, to be cut off from this source hurts.

My efforts in such events would be focussed on setting up an eco friendly wifi access point and encouraging people in line of sight establishment to host beacon/repeater stations where there is a will there is a way. get a wireless router and good qualtiy external Aerial or CB UHF transmitter recievers what ever attached to your laptop

Meanwhile create your own digital survival/time capsule and DOWNLOAD and ARCHIVE. Military survival guides, instructions for simple windmill power conversions of alternators from cars. Water purification. Hydroponics info, ECO building, HAM RADIO, philosophical excerpts...

THEN BURN THEM TO CD, DVD, old hard drives everthing you can muster and seal them away in a big magnetic shielded something buried under the ground (Containers some of you are talking about), ready to broadcast later free to air.
Your stock pile of hope fully useful bits of info can help sculpt a new society where we never have to worry about losing access to a collective conciseness again... dont have faith in telstra and corprate established infrastructure open for censorship like the China olympic firewall debarkle
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/synopsis.htm this stuff must get out!
Creativity and technology is the key. get out there grab it archive it safely ready to broadcast in new hope... ILL BE THERE, making my HOTSPOT!

PS dont forget the books and a scanner LOL

[Darcman]

all these forums should be able to be downloaded daily by a simple click. for the abilty to archive for such an event. for future reference

information is everthing
internet must be built by the people for the people. everyone obtain a wireless router its a start of sorts.

and consider LINUX a free alternative to the corprate Branded MicroSoft where virus's run riot.

[wags]

Darcman I envy your skills, by comparison I’m limited to the power of speech and action.
Thanks for input, we may need to implement action sooner than later.

[vesta]

Morning all,

Don't know if anyone wants to put this to the test and report back on it's validity but if this is for real - what a boon for us all!

My B-I-L has just sent a video were you leave 1/4 inch of mountain dew in a bottle, 3 capfuls of hydrogen peroxide, tiny bit of baking soda and put them all into a screwtop bottle and shake vigorously to mix.

I don't know how long the resultant mix lasts as a day-glow product or how bright it will be but if someone has the time to test this theory and see if

(a) it really works &

(b) how long this product then lasts

then post back on here with results, I'm sure a lot of us will appreciate it.

If This works it could prove a cheap and effective emergency lighting for us all should we need it!!!

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Tez]

Any idea’s of how we can still communicate should this site be closed, or indeed if, the net goes down.
Wags.

Have been looking at this subject as well, and besides each area having a SW communications centre/contact, the only other way of finding out what may be going on outside is to have something like the self-powered AM/FM/SW Radio i have put info at this thread (https://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=50170#post50170)

with one of these:
http://www.clockworkradio.com/images/fr200_angled_red_sml.jpg

That would solve half the problem.
.
.
.Full info here on this page (http://www.clockworkradio.com/category12_1.htm)
.

[vesta]

Hi Tez,

bought myself and family members some of these several yrs back from Dick Smith Electronics - they are brilliant for ppl being away from all other comm's options and even if not able to spk to others at the very least you can hear what is going on in the world.......

Love & light,

Vesta.

[wags]

Need info on chemtrails ?
http://www.carnicom.com/conright.htm

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?z=3&c=4&n=1&m=-1&w=4&x=0&p=14

[Tez]

Hi Tez..........I think it's really important for us all to have that sort of knowledge to hand, because should we need to move from our now current area of residence I am certain the time of yr and food availability will influence our decisions as to how/where we travel........ so this is a call out to other GC's around the country for similar information to share amongst us all.

Blessings to all,

Vesta.


Further to the previous link regarding native foods, i also had this one bookmarked and only just again came across it.

"Our Indigenous Garden - An Internet WebQuest on Aboriginal Use of Native Plants"

Introduction states:
"In this WebQuest you will explore the plants used by the Australian Aborigines for food, shelter, medicine and utensils, and the technology they employed to fully utilise the resources available."

Website address http://science.uniserve.edu.au/school/quests/nativeplants.html


:original:

[wags]

This is interesting.

http://www.s8int.com/machine.html

[Reunite]

In case you guys missed it in the news last week new radio wave frequency body scanners will be in use in 3 major airports around the country. Now airport employee's will be able to watch us so called terrorists naked via x-ray vision as we walk through customs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/16/2392829.htm

I knew I couldn't hide my penile implants for long

[Anchor]

Do you think that if you asked nicely, they would turn the juice up and give you a nice suntan? You know - a nice healthy glow ;)

[Reunite]

The government says its safe so it must be safe... right??

:lol3:

[nOslaves]

I would like to share this with you all.
After countless hours she is floating, mast's go up in a couple of weeks.
Then its of into the deep blue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0RgZnLP8ls

nOslaves

[vesta]

Hi nOSlaves,

she looks amazing!!!

Wishing you fair winds my friend, look forward to mtg you when you sail her further down the coast.

Blessings,

Vesta

[Darcman]

Hey n0slaves

exciting stuff, was in Brunz today, I looked out for you. Good luck.
Im heading down to Tassie for the wooden boat show in Feb. Might see you there?

[nOslaves]

Thanks Vesta and darcman,
It is all very exciting look forward to meeting you both.
Bass Straight:sweatdrop:
Will see how we go

nOslaves

[firefly]

Thanks Vesta and darcman,
It is all very exciting look forward to meeting you both.
Bass Straight:sweatdrop:
Will see how we go

nOslaves

Hi nOslaves, your boat looks great congrats'. Is that Brunswick Hds you launched from?. My other half sails on occassion. He was in the Coffs to Fiji race a few years ago and was away for two months. My brother-in-law has a Sydney 38 and only interested in racing it. I love the sea and wish I could go out sailing but sea sickness binds me to the land.

Good Luck on your adventures.

[vesta]

Hi nOslaves,darcman & firefly,

think we may need to readjust those maps for sailing soon check this link:

Super storms 'will wash away coast'
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24631035-5009760,00.html

Had a sail around Sydney Harbour last Monday with my husband and he's keen to follow your lead but I don't think I can grow my vege patch on a ship... :lol3:

Blessings,

Vesta

[paulie906]

If anyone from Adelaide comes across this PLEASE get in contact with me as there aren't many "awake" people here. So if your reading this and your from Adelaide PLEASE add me. i have a few friends and my family who are making plans at the moment. So when the time comes we will be ready. and i think to have a small community which is expecting this, would have far greater chance of survival than just a couple of people learning to throw a spear at a kangaroo!

Thanks

:thumb_yello: Alex :thumb_yello:
gday alex.im jack from adelaide.and im all to aware of whats coming and why...when nibiru crosses.the only places ifeel that might be safe are the himalayas,andes,and other high mountain ranges here in aussie,,,forget about it...if you feel that im wrong,i would like to here what you have to say ...kind regards jack

[nOslaves]

Hi Vesta, as for storms not much to do except keep a very close eye on the weather and be in a safe place when they hit, as for a vege patch sprouts will have to do, i am also thinking of creating a few "safe places" along the east coast to store food, seeds, matches etc.
Not sailing yet, where on earth i got the crazy idea to build my own boat, heaven knows:wall::original:

Hi nOslaves,darcman & firefly,

think we may need to readjust those maps for sailing soon check this link:

Super storms 'will wash away coast'
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24631035-5009760,00.html

Had a sail around Sydney Harbour last Monday with my husband and he's keen to follow your lead but I don't think I can grow my vege patch on a ship... :lol3:

Blessings,

Vesta

[vesta]

Hi all,

here's a few things for us to read thru during this period:

Anti-terror exercise underway in Sydney
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=671589

Banking glitch strips customers of funds
http://bigpond.com/news/topstories/content/20081125/2428844.asp

A sign of things to come for desperate ppl perhaps?

ATM thieves stole getaway car: police
http://bigpond.com/news/breaking/content/20081125/2429055.asp

This is also how our $$$$ is being devalued by other global curreny makers:

Australian dollar to hit all-time low of US47c, bank says
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,27753,24703862-462,00.html

Just another glorious day downunder folks,

blessings,

Vesta.

[P4BL0]

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[vesta]

Hi all,

this is what I've been trying to warn everyone about and now I have the open-source reference for you published today!!!! :bond:

Quote,"The company was hired to monitor and report on the internet activities of anti-war campaigners, animal rights activists, environmental campaigners, and other protest groups, Fairfax Media reported."




Web spies monitor activists online for police, attorney-general - report
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,24709180-5014239,00.html

Blessings to us all,

Vesta.

[henners]

Thanks Vesta, i thought that sort of thing only happened in the States. We'll have to be careful what we say...............:zip:

[vesta]

This is the reason why I've been pushing to have all the details of meetings PM'ed to the interested ppl - if they really want to snoop make them work harder for it rather than dish it up on a platter to them!

Sending lots of love and blessings to help guide them to recognise where the real threats lie, :wub2:

Vesta.

[P4BL0]

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[vesta]

Hi Pabs,

no need to preach to the choir on this one, I'm already on record as saying the best place to hide things is in the open!!! :wink2:

Some of us have more need of caution than others, particularly when we have families to consider as well.

This is also the reason I always open-source my information that I share with you, it's called self-preservation!

As I said earlier just make it harder for them, let them earn their corrupted blood money rather than offer everything up to them so easily.

If they have to drill down a bit further on things it means they're tied up for longer while we spend our time getting better educated on things coming down the line at us!

Consider this as a timely reminder to us all of what we are up against, especially if they're happy to announce it to us.

Love and light,

Vesta.

[Global Nomad]

I put masking tape over my web cam after our last meeting.
Is that just crazy ... ?
:nono:

[Peace2all]

Hi all fellow Aussies. :original:
I'm from the Western suburbs of Melbourne which is in no way a safe spot. :sad:
I've just opened a "Melbourne/Victoria" thread for all South Eastern residents. All from this state or even elsewhere are welcome. :winksmiley02:
Lets get cracking on a safe place plan.
Regards,
DarkMatter
HI JOHNNO, GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK ON TRACK:trumpet:

Do any of you fellow Aussies know anything on this stuff:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5760
Its a link relating to OUR TRUE RIGHTS!! Australian banking laws, citizens rights, arrests, police procedure, how to stop banks foreclosure on your home, tax, to how to get out of speeding ticket!!! Just found it and am reading the info....There is also other softer topics and cool stuff on site. Feedback welcome as it might be handy to know your rights if the S%^T hits the fan!!!
Peace and be good to YOU.

[Global Nomad]

Peace2all
Can't even find info on your link ...
But if you're interested in such things here's some more stuff about the subject ...
Pretty far out ideas here ... I'm open minded but unless there's a total 1984 orwellian government I don't think I'd ever be into or practice such actions as society would fall apart if we all went down this path.
Still good to know our rights ... if they're right that is !

The Strawman Illusion ...
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-6526777574574871930

Basic Fraud
Click on the videos on the left hand side.
http://www.basicfraud.com/main-0/

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c49q3PGof2w

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LPH5ikNKaVE&feature=related

And I presume you've all seen this ...
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2J2lNusJs
:tongue2:

[Dakini7]

Count me in - 100%. I'd like to put myself forth as a core member of the Ground Crew, and I'm committed to relocating to wherever is the best space for us to collaborate and create our safehaven in this country.

Vesta, I'm inspired by you and the light you shine - and would love to connect.

Blessings to you all, keep spreading the word - education is the most important thing at this time - get your loved ones, family and friends to watch Zeitgeist Addendum as the first step. The more people know about what is going on, the more we can collectively do something about it.

Blessed be.

[vesta]

Welcome to the GC Dakini7,

merry meet.

There are so many ppl on this forum that are beacons of light during this initial phase and so much info that is being made available for us but it's like sorting the wheat from the chaff some days......... hard work to pick out the really important pieces of info from the flotsam and jetsam of general conversation but so worth it if it provides another viable piece of the puzzle! :wink2:

There are a number of good folk in your immediate area, more further afield in rural VIC and then you can start working your way west or north and the connections will be easily made as we're a fairly good and welcoming group of ppl. Some folks have already sorted out their contingency plans and know what and how they will be working towards and achieving their plans for the near future. Others are still coming to terms with the bigger picture and the implications it might have for them and theirs. We are all at various stages of enlightenment and knowledge, walking many different paths and yet such strong connections have been forged between us all.

These good folk here are amazing and true inspirations for me to continue to travel along this path, a big call out to the Aussie GC!!! :wub2: :wub2: :wub2:

Blessings to you and yours for our futures,

May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind always be at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
and rains fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God/dess hold you in the palm of their hand.

Vesta.
30 NOV 08.

[vesta]

Wow,

check out this thread that Tez has created - invaluable information for calculating our needs for food storage and basics that we should be looking at sourcing!!!

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4337

Thanks Tez for the great job!

Blessings,

Vesta.

[vesta]

here's a little light reading for you all:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=676362

QUOTE "Now back on Earth, the "space seeds" will be planted in Sydney's Royal Botanical Gardens, Mount Tomah Botanic Garden in the Blue Mountains, and Mount Annan Botanic Garden near Camden in Sydney's south-west."

Perhaps the SYDNEY GC can keep an eye out for these special irradiated plants in the near future???

Blessings,

Vesta

[vesta]

Further to my above warning from the media, pls read this link:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8485

Blessings to all on this journey of life,

Vesta.

[Aussie Babe]

Further to my above warning from the media, pls read this link:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8485

Blessings to all on this journey of life,

Vesta.

Thank You Vesta I probably would have missed that thread, I will definately be considering becoming a paid subscriber now!

Peace
Aussie Babe

[Markus999]

Hi Guys,
I am new in this Forum and hope to make some new friends.

Are there any ground Grew activity in Singapore?
Would be nice if some one could help me out on that.

Have a great day.:original:

Cheers,
Markus

[BANANNIE]

Hi All, we live in Far North Queensland and we are 800 metres above sea level. There is plenty of water and the area has excellent food producing resources. Quite a few G/Crew folk from south-east Queensland, as well as other areas of Oz, are moving up and away from the more heavily populated areas. So pleasing to see more Aussies thinking about their survival and self-sufficiency plans for the future and sharing with one another. All the best to everyone and stay brave-hearted!!! LOL

[vesta]

Dear all,

a little light reading for all we folk who are up way too late:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=90800#post90800

For those that can do, pls do stay in touch, :wub2:

Blessings to you all, good night and good bye.

Vesta.

[Global Nomad]

A note from Vesta Via Me ...

Hello dearest Sydney GC members,

I must apologise to you all as I will not be making the trip to see you all today.... I have had a bad week of it with these rotten westerly winds and my sinuses are so backed up I can't think straight let alone drive! I am so very disappointed to not be seeing you all before christmas as I was really looking forward to another day of inspiration and exchanges of knowledge and ideas.
Pls do keep me in mind for the next mtg, I intend to make it irrespective of health issues.
Manda and I would also in the early part of the NY would love to see you all considering a mtg down in the ACT. This would give the country/regional ppl in NSW an opportunity to meet their city cousins. :wink2:

On another note for those taking any med's and who are considering stockpiling what they may need for the future pls ensure you are aware of all the side effects that they may cause!!!!! Only yesterday I was informed by an older pharmacist that the drug I have been taking for the last 9-10 wks for my sinus issues has a serotonin inhibitor as a main feature of the drug. I was advised by another pharmacist that this was the replacement for the drug I had previously been using and that I would be fine taking it on daily basis but this chap I spoke with yesterday informed me it was not for long term use as one of the main things it did as a side effect was cause depression! Not that I have been diagnosed as clinically depressed but just feeling flat and listless and not able to put my finger on it but now i know and will be searching for something else without the side effect to treat the symptoms. Be warned that you truly do need to know the implications of anything you are putting into your body or if offering even as little as an aspirin to someone else in the future it might have effects that they should be aware of.........

Take care of yourselves my lovely ones and may 2009 be kind to you all,

blessings and best wishes,

Vesta.

[Zeddo]

- education is the most important thing at this time - get your loved ones, family and friends to watch Zeitgeist Addendum as the first step.

Blessed be.

Thanks for that link. It didn't work but this one does (for now) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912&hl=en

WOW !!! I can only reiterate what you said....get your family, friends, neighbors etc to watch this. It is tremendously important.

By the way, I am down in Mandurah.

Love, peace and light to everyobody. May we all wake up sooner rather than later.

[gretsico]

i'm curious.
what sort of effect will the financial crisis have on australia in the middle to long term?
Are we likely to se the dollar slide even further against the USD? or the opposite?
I appreciate that its a global issue,but does being small and kinda out of the way insulate us at all??

[mulder]

The financial crisis in the mid to long term will be ugly. We will become de-industrialised, as every possible job heads to China, etc. Real Estate will plummet to around prices of 10 years ago. Most banks will need Govt bailouts (really, just look at the USA today & we are around 2 years behind). Our Social Security will be shown up as a ponzi scheme (fraudulent scheme where money paid out is not from profits, but from contributions of new investors). I think things will get ugly very fast if there are more terrorist attacks anywhere in the world.

[Global Nomad]

A not from Vesta Via me ...

Internet filtering plan may extend to peer-to-peer traffic, says Stephen Conroy
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,24833959-5014239,00.html

[Global Nomad]

Hi all,

don't know how many of you have kids but I've just been to the cinema today and seen the shorts for this new movie - are they foreshadowing or just indocrinating our kids?

It's called 'monsters vs aliens' and it's release date is 27 March 2009.

Anyways make of it what you will but here's the link to the official trailer:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=YtdrGikcihA

While it's kind of funny and they do get some laughs at the expense of alphabet agencies I'm wondering what subliminals are potentially locked in and what the underlying current of the entire movie will be like.....

Blessings,

Vesta.

[Global Nomad]

Ezy DVD refusal to honour vouchers
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2008/12/27/Ezy_DVD_refusal_to_honour_vouchers_290179.html

It seems that we are now about to see the same type of economic downturn being applied to our country and I'd hazard that this won't be the last..... what a great way to see in the NY huh???

Blessings,

Vesta.

[henners]

Hello all and Happy New Year. We are planning a Ground Crew Meeting possibly in Canberra at the end of January the 31st. For now we are trying to get numbers who are interested in coming. I have a couple of ideas. Firstly, I will drive down myself and have 4 spare seats to take members to Canberra, or If we have enough numbers, i might be able to dry hire/borrow a vehicle from work to take all of us down there. (If you don't know, i am a coach driver) Please register your interest as soon as possible with me. Either PM me or just add your name on this post. I will also send an email to those on the small data base we have from previous meetings.

We have some new subjects to discuss.

[chantellealyce]

I would just like to say hello to everyone here.
I have just joined this site after weeks of research, and looking for somewhere to talk to people from Australia who have similar beliefs.
I am looking to meet and also to talk to other people to share ideas, talk and help each other.
I am not sure what to write here at the moment but regardless a huge hello to everyone I look forward to having the chance to get to know you all.

Karen
:original:

[henners]

Hey chantellealyce, welcome to the site. Many interesting people here. Some very nice aussies too. If you can make it to a Ground crew meeting, you'll meet some excellent people that think like you (i assume) thats why we are all here.
Henry

http://slua.com/wp-content/uploads/welcome_mat.jpg

[Ngai Te Rangi]

Welcome aboard Chantellealyce. :welcomeani: There's some pretty cool and switched on people here in the Oz forum. As Henner's mentioned, get involved in a state Ground Crew where ever you're from and connect with the likeminded.
I'm yet to meet a weirdo amongst them at this point in time :original:, but true, it's been all good since I first got involved in this forum.
There's some absolute gems of information and wisdom posted by members here.
You cant help but to learn more about yourself and whats 'really going on' in this world ..universe. :trumpet:

[P4BL0]

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[Global Nomad]

Quick link from Vesta :

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jd68_34nsg

[Global Nomad]

... And a little more from Vesta


Spy on your family, friends with new program

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More technology news:

Google claims maps may help track people
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=740844

Bus-sized boa slithers into record book
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=740805

MySpace removes 90,000 sex offenders
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=740218

Satellite spots possible 'sauna planet'
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=740445

Satellite spots smallest 'exoplanet
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=740107

Scientists discover smallest exoplanet
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=740098

'1,000 year-old' choc traces found in US
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=736972

Animal eggs 'don't work for stem cells'
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=736885

Google adds ocean depth to Earth browser
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=736840

Mad cow disease blood test developed
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=736532



Google have unveiled a new feature that allows users to track the location on Google Maps of friends or family using a mobile smartphone.

Google Latitude uses Global Positioning System (GPS) technology to show the "approximate" whereabouts on a Google Map of users who opt into the service and choose to share their location with others.

"You can do things like see if your spouse is stuck in traffic on the way home from work, notice that a buddy is in town for the weekend, or take comfort in knowing that a loved one's flight landed safely, despite bad weather.

"Not only can you see your friends' locations on a map, but you can also be in touch directly via SMS, Google Talk, Gmail, or by updating your status message," Google said in a company blog post announcing the new feature.

The Mountain View, California, Internet giant stressed that the sharing of location data is strictly optional.

"We've built fine-grained privacy controls right into the application," Google said. "Everything about Latitude is opt-in. You not only control exactly who gets to see your location, but you also decide the location that they see.

"For instance, let's say you are in Rome. Instead of having your approximate location detected and shared automatically, you can manually set your location for elsewhere — perhaps a visit to Niagara Falls.

"Latitude (also) lets you change the settings on a friend-by-friend basis," Google said.

Latitude, which can be downloaded at google.com/latitude, is presently available in 27 countries and Google said it hopes to add more soon.

Latitude works on mobile smartphones and as an iGoogle gadget on desktop and laptop computers. Google said Latitude will be available for the Apple iPhone "very soon."

[henners]

To all Aussies- and those who would want to be. At the moment we have a fund raiser on television called "Australia Unites". It is amazing to see the Australian spirit uniting and lending a helping hand to all those people that have lost everything. Nearly 200 people perished. Over 1000 homes lost, plus many more people homeless.

Australians have raised over 50 million dollars, plus corporate donations and whatever we can raise in this television appeal.

This is the real Aussie spirit, when the chips are down, everybody pitches in.

Hopefully this is the start of more unity amongst this great nation.

I am proud to be a spanish Aussie.

Henry

http://aussiecynic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/aussie_20oi_.jpg

[AussieG]

Hi to all ground crew.
The majority of the Melb. crew had an evening with Adam Davis and friends of http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/
There were between 40 and 50 like minded soles there. A great introduction and netwoking oppertunities. there will be monthly meetings from now on. With the first theme being personal health and well being.

For Avalon forum members :mfr_omg:we are very please to announce :trumpet:the attendance in person of Astralwalker of the Nexus thread. Who is in Melb.: :welcomeani: I can vouch that he is real and rididige. :thumb_yello: He only just arrived in Aus. and after a time to settle and adjust we will talk extensively, with an idea of posting a video in the near future, If Kerry and Bill don't beat us to it.

[mulder]

I just finished listening to Lindsey Williams on the Alex Jones show. The topics included:
1. World-wide food riots in 2009. Problem-reaction-solution.
2. Imminent US financial collapse (tax base collapsing as fewer workers paying less tax, petrol taxes collapsing as petrol is cheap now...). New currency on the way.
3. Price of oil at $US38 & will stay here for some time. 4.70,000 factories close in China - imminent riots there of starving workers.
5. Massive inflation around the corner.
6. Soon every bank, most houses & businesses will end up being owned by the elite.
7. US Police state here to control future rioting.

To listen go to youtube & search for thealexjoneschannel or use itunes to down load the podcast for 18/2/09 (use itunes 4.9+ by adding this podcasting feed: http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss)

[Luminari]

Hi to all ground crew.
The majority of the Melb. crew had an evening with Adam Davis and friends of http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/
There were between 40 and 50 like minded soles there. A great introduction and netwoking oppertunities. there will be monthly meetings from now on. With the first theme being personal health and well being.

For Avalon forum members :mfr_omg:we are very please to announce :trumpet:the attendance in person of Astralwalker of the Nexus thread. Who is in Melb.: :welcomeani: I can vouch that he is real and rididige. :thumb_yello: He only just arrived in Aus. and after a time to settle and adjust we will talk extensively, with an idea of posting a video in the near future, If Kerry and Bill don't beat us to it.

:thumb_yello:
That sounds like fun. Cheers Up to the Melbourne crew, I used to live down there and play in a band back in '98 - 00'.
Adam has done well with the David Icke event, still hoping I might be able to come down for it in April.

Say Hi to Astralwalker from me if you see him, I knew he was in the country, would be nice guy to talk with I'm sure.

[Soul Rebel]

Hi All,

This is my first post here. I am Peace2all's other half. I have, by proxy, been following many of the Avalon threads for some by time but still a newling to posting and working this "fandangled" computer:wall:. But enough about me.

I posted some co-ordinates to the Melb. ground crew and thought you all might find these interesting as well. Co-ordinates 21°48'59.69"S, 114° 9'55.36"E for Google earth. Look em' up. WTF?!!::shocked:

G'day Mulder. Your post is I think pretty much on the money. It does however highlight the need for preparations sooner than later. Do you have any time lines for the scenarios you mentioned? Do you think it has to do with August/Sept. timing as mentioned in other threads recently?

Also I would like to extend a big HELLO and G'DAY to Tez who has always sent us(Peace2all) valuable information whenever asked, and PB40 dig your pictures man.......wayyyyyyy cooooooool, awesome, brilliant. Hi to Henners as well, AUSSIE, AUSSIE, AUSSIE, OI, OI, OI! Make sure to say hello to Pep and myself when in Melb. for David Icke. ::thumb_yello:

Chow for now girls and boys.
Arch/Arty/Soul Rebel.

[henners]

Hey Soulrebel, thanks for that. At the moment i am in Queensland on a tour. I leave tomorrow for Byron Bay then Coffs Harbour. I will be back on my computer on Thursday. Hello to all. I look forward to meeting all the Melbourne ground crew soon.
Henry

[P4BL0]

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[sharondon]

Hi fellow Aussies - Currently in Sydney nsw here. Looking to find like-minded people, locate a suitable location for sustainable community and plan for the change.
Nice to meet you all via this forum , and looking forward to meeting you in person

[Peace2all]

Hi fellow Aussies - Currently in Sydney nsw here. Looking to find like-minded people, locate a suitable location for sustainable community and plan for the change.
Nice to meet you all via this forum , and looking forward to meeting you in person

Hi Sharondon and fellow AUSSIES,
There is also another thread on Avalon started by Anchor "GROUP SURVIVAL" which also has lots of information regarding communities. My husband (Soul Rebel) and I are also in the process of selling up everything and starting a community in NSW, just checking out land now. We also know of two groups in Melb and NSW that may be joining up and already purchased land. These communities though are more based on "Ringing Cedar Communities" based in the Anastasia books and are not as survival motivated as us or others. Below is the link if you like to check it out. People are meeting over Easter and we are hoping to get there also. Good luck with your vision and may you find what you are looking for. Pep
ETHERION Intentional Community Initiative based on the Anastasia/Ringing Cedar series of books.
NSW Northern Tablelands on 701 hectares (1734 acres), 1200m elevation.
Fantastic climate, 32C max ever, 900mm rainfall, very high light levels summer & winter.
*** THE MOST ENVIRONMENTAL STEP YOU'LL EVER TAKE FOR THE PLANET!!! ***
Meeting Sunday 8th March 5pm at Magpie House Upwey Victoria, see http://www.magpiehouse.com.au .
Meeting Saturday 11th April 2pm in Guyra township to visit land.
Homestead will overflow, so bring tents.
Also see http://www.magpiehouse.com.au/EcoVillage.htm for eco-village details.
What's different about the Ringing Cedar model? Why in just a few years has it inspired over 300 Kin's Domains in Russia based on this model? Why in 2004, did hand-tendered food gardens produce 51% of Russia's total agricultural output with only 7% of land, whereas mechanised artificially fertilised corporate farms produced only 43% using 83% of agricultural land?
Family domains of at least one hectare preserve individuality, self-sufficiency & personal responsibility & creativity, but retains supportive interdependence of a village. Like Russia, Australia has vast areas of monoculture & damaged cattle country "wastelands" which can be transformed into permanent culture gardens where the food resource requires no transport, there's no mortgages, few utilities, & excess produce provides income. If anyone is concerned about Rising Seas displacement, this is surely the joyful answer. We MUST focus on the POSITIVE aspects of (climate?) change, not the NEGATIVE, it's the collective consciousness which creates our reality. Contact us for books, they have a profound effect on readers & must be read for you to understand. You can start with the article "Eco-Villages & Anastasia's Truth about Rising Seas" on our eco-village website.

[AussieG]

David Ike only 98 tickets to go

http://www.truthmovementaustralia.com.au/

[The voice of One]

Alright....I've got a free ticket to anyone that want's to see David Icke at jeff's shed in Melbourne. No one i know gives a **** about current and not so current events....so, if you can get to Melbourne by the due date of the 11th of April 2009...it's yours! A man's word is his bond! First person to PM me is the person that see's David at my expence! To make it fair the first in is the best dressed! NO JOKE! Sorry to all those that read this last!...I truely am. maybe I can shout you a beer sometime. Cheers...:welcomeani:

[The voice of One]

Alright....I've got a free ticket to anyone that want's to see David Icke at jeff's shed in Melbourne. No one i know gives a **** about current and not so current events....so, if you can get to Melbourne by the due date of the 11th of April 2009...it's yours! A man's word is his bond! First person to PM me is the person that see's David at my expence! To make it fair the first in is the best dressed! NO JOKE! Sorry to all those that read this last!...I truely am. maybe I can shout you a beer sometime. Cheers...:welcomeani:


Sorry people if your reading this in the morning. The ticket I had spare has been snapped up. ya gotta get up early in the morning to beat an Aussie!! I owe the rest of you a beer! True?

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[Relayer]

Anyone Attending The David Icke Seminar In Melbourne: Please Read...

ALL non-attending people are also Welcome!!!

Anyone attending the David icke Seminar in Melbourne on Saturday the 11th of April '09, are invited to attend a get together the day before at my place of residence.
I have organized a small meeting so everyone from around Australia can meet up with some Melbourne and Sydney Ground Crew members.
I deeply apologize for the short notice. :sad:
Meeting is on Good Friday the 10th of April '09, at 1:00pm till late.
Light refreshments will be provided. BYO alcohol.
Please PM me for my address details.
Please take care all and I hope to see you all at my place on the day. :thumb_yello:
Best regards always,
John

Relayer