Whistle Blowers and their role

[Kerry Cassidy]

On whistle blowers and their role:

Many people take a very vindictive approach to Dr. Bill Deagle and his information. This is somewhat understandable but unfortunate.

I want to make clear our view on Dr. Deagle as well as others of his kind. The following is a reply I sent to David Wilcock in response to his position regarding Deagle. I felt it was important enough to reprint here:

Whistleblowers are people who have spent all or large parts of their lives working for the negative agenda. Once they become whistle blowers it behooves us to welcome them, with Christ-like forgiveness and acceptance, knowing they are reflections of ourselves, come home.

In Deagle's case, we have been to his home and met his lovely wife and family... Regardless of what you think of his ability to see the future accurately he is speaking the truth as he knows it, has a vast intellect and is acting true to his own inner dictates. In addition, if you take the time to listen to him, you will find much of his material matches your own very closely including his conclusion that we create our reality.

As a medical doctor, Deagle may be giving humanity a somewhat dire prognosis for the future, but he is doing it in the spirit of prophets of all time, so that humanity will wake up and see the error in their ways before they go down a road from which their is no return. As you know, the aim of prophecy is warning not that of passing sentence.

On a side note, he was not "wrong" yet... He never said on October 7th that anything would happen.. other than the downturn of the markets which as we all know happened...

You must walk the walk if you are going to talk the talk. If we turn away whistle blowers because of their pasts where would we all be? Who will cast the first stone?

Deagle is no different in this respect than Daniel or Henry Deacon. He is coming forward talking about the truth as told to him by MANY whistle blowers from black projects who shared their information... and he is coming forward very brave in spirit -- against great criticism and derision -- Yes, he may be verbose and his views may tilt in a direction you do not agree with.. but here is a soul who is doing his best to reveal the dark agenda to the masses and we need to acknowledge him for this.

This dimension is full of both the light and dark and embracing one to the exclusion of the other will only perpetuate the polarization of consciousness and defeat our purpose.

Blessings,

Kerry
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[eaglespirit]

Thank You, Kerry!

[ries]

well said.

Greetings.

[IRKCOD]

Totally agree.

One can only go on the information that is available at the time. If we had complete & accurate information we could make more accurate predictions. Often to get this we need 20-20 hindsight, in other words the event has passed.

We live is a world of incomplete information on which to make our decision and predictions; so at most we can only hope to get into the 'ball park' relative to any forecasted event.


Whistleblowers, and other with predictive gifts, at least give us the opportunity to make decisions or take 'stances on topics' by making their information public. We are all responsible to ourselves as to how we use that information. The purveyor of the information is not forcing you to use or believe it.

[JoinTheFun]

Far more important to get in touch with your own predictions.
And change them if you want to.

[samvado]

Whistleblowers are people who have spent all or large parts of their lives working for the negative agenda. Once they become whistle blowers it behooves us to welcome them, with Christ-like forgiveness and acceptance, knowing they are reflections of ourselves, come home.


agreed, however, like treating misbehaving children we should not then elevatze them to messiah status - they have been utterly wrong for the vaster part of their lives - if they correct their twisted ways that does not all of a sudden convert them into great illumiated beings whos vision we all should listen to. They still have the distorted minds that let them engange with the dark side in the first place. A bit of an insight is a dangerous thing and in the case of Deagle its a very dangerous thing.
Kerry you have a histroy a gullibility and although I can see why for camelot whistleblowers are the lifeblood it would be good to not throw "visionary" garbage onto the equally gullible masses and create histeria in those who take that stuff for anything but what it is: the utterances of a distorted mind.


On a side note, he was not "wrong" yet... He never said on October 7th that anything would happen.. other than the downturn of the markets which as we all know happened...


if there ever was a defintion of "wrong" in any usefulls sense - he was wrong. and while he was wrong he paniced thousands. you helpled him do that with exactly the mindset I mentioned above. IMHO that is tragically irresponsible. to put Deagle up with e.g. Wilcock who again IMO is a visionary and an intelligent human being is like saying a nazi regretting his misdoing at the nuremburg trials has the same standing as martin luther king.


This dimension is full of both the light and dark and embracing one to the exclusion of the other will only perpetuate the polarization of consciousness and defeat our purpose.


well, yes BUT a bit of discernment is also helpful.

with best wishes

sam (from germany - excuse english typoos)

[Paul_Thomas]

Could it be possible that no one is a prophet for others, but is of their own and their life's path?

[THE eXchanger]

Kerry Cassidy, what you said,
shines with brilliance,
and, is both -- well said, and, well done,
at the same time :)

Thank You, for all that you, and bill do,
i think it is making a huge altering, and,
changing in this world

It is nice, when you share your thoughts with us,
you should do that, more frequently :)

brightest blessings of energy, light and love to you
susan - the eXchanger

[Kay Wilkinson]

Thanks Kerry for , as always, keeping it real!!!
You and Bill rock!
:naughty:

[Mikill]

I have to say that DR BILL is right on the money.Especially about the Chinese REd aRMy troops being in the country already.

[petesm22]

On whistle blowers and their role:

Many people take a very vindictive approach to Dr. Bill Deagle and his information. This is somewhat understandable but unfortunate.

I want to make clear our view on Dr. Deagle as well as others of his kind. The following is a reply I sent to David Wilcock in response to his position regarding Deagle. I felt it was important enough to reprint here:

Whistleblowers are people who have spent all or large parts of their lives working for the negative agenda. Once they become whistle blowers it behooves us to welcome them, with Christ-like forgiveness and acceptance, knowing they are reflections of ourselves, come home.

In Deagle's case, we have been to his home and met his lovely wife and family... Regardless of what you think of his ability to see the future accurately he is speaking the truth as he knows it, has a vast intellect and is acting true to his own inner dictates. In addition, if you take the time to listen to him, you will find much of his material matches your own very closely including his conclusion that we create our reality.

As a medical doctor, Deagle may be giving humanity a somewhat dire prognosis for the future, but he is doing it in the spirit of prophets of all time, so that humanity will wake up and see the error in their ways before they go down a road from which their is no return. As you know, the aim of prophecy is warning not that of passing sentence.

On a side note, he was not "wrong" yet... He never said on October 7th that anything would happen.. other than the downturn of the markets which as we all know happened...

You must walk the walk if you are going to talk the talk. If we turn away whistle blowers because of their pasts where would we all be? Who will cast the first stone?

Deagle is no different in this respect than Daniel or Henry Deacon. He is coming forward talking about the truth as told to him by MANY whistle blowers from black projects who shared their information... and he is coming forward very brave in spirit -- against great criticism and derision -- Yes, he may be verbose and his views may tilt in a direction you do not agree with.. but here is a soul who is doing his best to reveal the dark agenda to the masses and we need to acknowledge him for this.

This dimension is full of both the light and dark and embracing one to the exclusion of the other will only perpetuate the polarization of consciousness and defeat our purpose.

Blessings,

Kerry
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i agree with everything you said,i just have a hard time listening to people who say that GOD speaks to me, and GOD put me here to receive this message.besides that his info sounds good.

[saggyash]

I agree. I have to give these people ultimate credit for what they do and for carrying out their role in this lifetime for it is not an easy one.
It is always good to know what might happen so a person is not caught off guard and if any predictions don't fall into place like some people would like it to then I would think of it as all the light workers meditating together for the good of human kind is having a grand effect. Which it does 10 fold.
My heart, love and light goes out to Bill and all the people who bring us information that they feel true to their heart.

[Realview]

I'd also add it's very difficult to even look at this kind of material. It's quite remarkable the growth in "Conspiracy" awareness that has taken place in just the last few years alone. We might now take it for granted, but once upon a time it was shocking and horrific to even consider that this might be true let alone take it seriously. How much more for people who try, from their perspective, to stand up for truth and decency while knowing just how easy it is for a heart attack to be arranged for them. This can cause a lot of internal issues for anyone, let alone "insiders".

[zorgon]

Whistleblowers are people who have spent all or large parts of their lives working for the negative agenda. Once they become whistle blowers it behooves us to welcome them, with Christ-like forgiveness and acceptance, knowing they are reflections of ourselves, come home.

My question is what steps have been taken to prove that any particular whistleblower is in fact the real deal?

What I see a lot of all over the web is that many have no proof to offer other than their word. If they are a good story teller their word is taken as gospel. Almost cult like in some cases

When they are wrong on a prediction, people make excuses for them.

I have seen some that do not use a real name... no one has checked their background... and they can offer no documentation at all...

Even when this documentation exists. Why not present it? Would this not give credibility to your story?

And what do we do when more than one WB has a different story than the other one? Which one do we believe? So far now I wave seen many dates for Nibiru for example... from 2003 from Zeta talk to 2900 from Sitchins book "End of Days" 2007 pages 315 - 317 and every date in between.

I am not saying that they may not be true 'insiders'... I am not saying they may not have info to share... but where is the check and balance that ALL of them are 100% the genuine article?

You would think also that when a WB mentions a topic of 'revelation' in an interview... while most people will say "wow cool" some people will actually follow up on the leads. Seems to me that this would be expected?

That is how I met John Lear in the first place.. I was able to document a lot of what he talked about and as a result we became close friends.

But some people react the opposite... and that quite frankly raises red flags in my book. If you don't want someone to check... why would you mention it? Does not seem logical.

In a recent incidence I had written you and Bill about certain projects (trying hard not to mention names here to keep this a generic question :wink2: ) that I already had documents on BEFORE an interview... actually before Avalon even opened...

There was no reply and Bill said you were busy... fine I understand that... point is it should not have been a surprise.... I gave advance 'notice'

Now over at ATS someone like Cliff Stone gets top billing with his FOIA documents... even gets ad revenues. Yet all those documents are old news easily found on the web... and better copies even without his watermark on them (watermarking a public document? Hmmm ) When you say FOIA in your post his banner appears from the snoop robots.

Yet when you show the real stuff like the 1992 Fusion rocket from Wisconsin U fusion lab, or the nuclear reactor SP-100 on the Moon from NASA, or the electromagnetic shielding for spaceships.. a contractor final report from NASA, GE as the contractor... THOSE things get buried in skunkworks...

Imagine my surprise when 'issues' happened here as well.

Most of the 'good info' comes from real government, NASA, University and .mil sites. In order to prove a document is not phony it is necessary to link to the original source.

For some reason linking to a .mil site here at Avalon scares people... so much so I saw a thread suggesting it be disallowed. It is true that most good .mil sites are not accessible from outside the USA. With good reason... while its free for us to see, do we really want some foreign terrorist to have such easy access to our military? Hmmm

So do people want the truth? Or just a 'good story' that fits their personal belief?

The Blossom Goodchild scenario that flooded all forums (ATS had 80 threads at one point) shows me that the 'good story' rules...

On a closing note...

Bob Lazar thinks John Lear is crazy on most of his theories... :tongue2:

But at a recent party (John's 65th birthday) Bob showed us his NEW Los Alamos ID badge... I will leave it at that

[PeterJay]

Hi to all of you.
It takes courage to become a whistleblower. THere is nothing to judge and we can learn to build up new threads within our brains. I have seen all the interviews and i appreciate that there is no hard evaluation of the things being said neither Kerry nor by Ryan.
I really love Project Camelot and their work!

Maybe this is a chance in a lifetime to start to think in new ways and get your
thinking machine rewired.


Thanks to all of you.

[feeler]

That is how I met John Lear in the first place.. I was able to document a lot of what he talked about and as a result we became close friends.



What's your take on John Lear's story of the "souls collector" located on the moon?



-feeler

[Magii]

Contradictions upon Contradictions, Hoagland says it best - The Lie is different at every level.

:wink2:

[suchanawesomekid]

If we turn away whistle blowers because of their pasts where would we all be? Who will cast the first stone?

That is true Kerry, I don't know why so many people tend to wrongly prioritize, I mean... if a message is so potent it shakes the spirit, if a message sounds clear and rings to be true.... who cares about past circumstances?

I heard David Wilcock saying what he said about Deagle on the phone call, and it was very disappointing indeed.

Anyway, keep doing a great job, you have no clue how much your work has been pivotal in many ways to MY education.


Gregg xx

[grandmakaren]

Kerry,

Thank you for sharing your response to Dr. Deagle's interview. My first obervation was that Bill was the primary interviewer and saw that as a very good move with Dr Deagle. It was very interesting to watch as things unfolded because it was apparent to me that there was a deep well of information there but priming the well to get it out was going to be a challenge. One can always let negative judgements hid the gems hiding in this kind of interview, but if one is patient and open they will shine through. I believe you and Bill knew those gems were there and brought a number of them to the surface.

It is not important that we understand or accept everything he believes, it is important that we accept his currage to speak up. It is not our place to make a judgement, it is our place to love and appreciate how difficult his road has been. As we look for the gems in his message and respond to his brave testimony our frequency is raised and we are drawn closser to assencion.

Thank you for bringing us such wonderfully diverse interviews so that we have a broad array of information to learn from. It is only by learning from this diversity that we can truly choose the path that is right for each of us. Information holds such power as we each take what we learn and create our future.

Love and Blessing, Grandma Karen

[Jacqui D]

Thanks Kerry for speaking up as you have.
We all have a choice what we choose to listen to and believe in.

If the information is hard for you to take in then don't listen it's that easy.
I think most people who read and watch the many interviews on Camelot site have found them very interesting, personally myself, so much that has been said resonates with everything i have thought through my own research.
I try not to ridicule anyones believes be them prophets, whistleblowers we are here on this site to share knowledge and for myself i have learnt so much and one of the greatest things that has come out of all this is that i have met so many like minded people.
So i say make your own mind up.

But without the Camelot site most would still be in the dark on such matters.
And without Avalon how would we keep up with the latest news around the world and getting it straight from the horses mouth, great!!

[mntruthseeker]

I myself thought that Oct 7th was an actual date time for LA's problems. I see that giving dates actually hurt people.............but the vision he seen has been seen by many others.I think the fact that so many people say that are abducted now my question is by WHOM....

Its ok to view your opinion as I'm sure Dr Deagle has voiced his opinion once or twice in his lifetime. I have heard you do so Kerry.

Its natural...


Good or Evil

[becky]

Kerry,
I respect your championing of Dr. Deagle as well as all that you and Bill do. But I still question Dr. Deagles street creds. In his address to the Granada Forum, the man claimed to know almost everything about everything. Clearly he has a very intelligent mind, he talks so fast and very articulately about a wide range of topics. But is there really a whistleblower out there that has worked for just about every black ops organization in every field of expertise?? Dr. Deagle has the inside scoop on the economy, the illuminati, the arms race, bioweapons, political intrigue, aliens, niburu, prophecies, religion, and the list goes on and on. For that matter, between him and George Green, I've never heard either of them say, "Gosh, I don't know."

Let's check our egos at the door, whistleblowers, and soldier forward with absolute truth.

I for one was scared silly by all the run up to October 7th. There will be no more of that nonsense for me.

WIth love and compassion!!!

Becky

[bill7907]

Good work Kerry.
What is your next whistleblower on the list?

[azpiper]

Before the Chinese destroyed all the monasteries in Tibet there was a saying over the doorway to one outstanding Lamasery:

" A THOUSAND MONKS...... A THOUSAND RELIGIONS"

[dataeast]

Sometimes when a person has an "awakening" or a series of "awakenings" it's for a reason. It does not really matter that they might be wrong because the "awakening" can and in a sense needs to be real so that it forces the person to take some action or responsibility with that as fact. The experience can't be "unreal" otherwise there would be no action one might take. So, I suspect that although Bill D. may have been "wrong" it was a necessary wrong in order for him to get to where he is supposed to go. Nonetheless I found his interview quite insightful despite the inaccuracies, thanks for the interviews.

[Bleep!]

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[samncheese]

Well put, come on in everybody let's hug and be like most families and be a little weird at times. I think we all know that something big is comming the question is what and when? It takes integrity to put your name on the line and stand up for what you belive in...

[Bleep!]

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[dataeast]

He spoke as if he had a major personal insight/s which probably lead him to believe a lot more was also true. Being or having connections might have aided him in coming out with what he did. I don't think he intentionally meant to mislead anyone, sometimes I think that reality is quite malleable and whatever "truth" is at one point in time is still subject to the changing moments. Still, there are elements which do ring true if not in an overarching sense.

[zorgon]

[COLOR="DarkOrange"][B]What's your take on John Lear's story of the "souls collector" located on the moon?


That would take a bit of space... so either PM or another thread :wink2:

[angel3553]

Thanks Kerry,
I love the work you and Bill put together and I find the whistleblower's information fascinating. However, I don't but in to any of it unless it sits right with me. I believe that it is important for all of us to use our discernment with any information. We are all free to agree or disagree as we choose. That is why we have free will.

As George Green said, "the lie is different at every level." So I have no doubt Dr Deagle is coming forth with the best of intentions. What is difficult for most, is to control the fear when continually listening to the gloom and doom, which in turn adds to the problem rather than the solution.

It is only a continuum of energy, or polarity, between Love and Fear. If we buy into the fear we create the reality that scares us the most! Again, as George Green said, "what is the worst case scenario?" We know that the death of the body is not the death of us! Listen to Bob Dean.

Therefore, from David's comments I chose not to listen to Dr Deagle's comments, not because I believe him to be wrong, but because I know the power of words. Therefore, I was happy to go along with David's optimism.

The engergies taking us toward 2012 are accelerating, so I want to be free of the fear based emotions as I traverse the next few years.

Keep up the brilliant work Kerry and Bill. I love the smorgasbord of choice!

Love, light and peace of mind to all on Mother Earth at this time.
:harp:

[MacDuck]

Kerry,
I respect your championing of Dr. Deagle as well as all that you and Bill do. But I still question Dr. Deagles street creds. In his address to the Granada Forum, the man claimed to know almost everything about everything. Clearly he has a very intelligent mind, he talks so fast and very articulately about a wide range of topics. But is there really a whistleblower out there that has worked for just about every black ops organization in every field of expertise?? Dr. Deagle has the inside scoop on the economy, the illuminati, the arms race, bioweapons, political intrigue, aliens, niburu, prophecies, religion, and the list goes on and on. For that matter, between him and George Green, I've never heard either of them say, "Gosh, I don't know."

Let's check our egos at the door, whistleblowers, and soldier forward with absolute truth.

I for one was scared silly by all the run up to October 7th. There will be no more of that nonsense for me.

WIth love and compassion!!!

Becky

Very well said becky. I have known about Deagle going back to his days when he was a frequent speaker on The Prophecy Club, hosted by Stan Johnson. TPC is a fundamentalist Christian group that got started in the mid to late 90's. They hosted prophecy seminars that featured a group of speakers who traveled around to different cities. Deagle was one such speaker and he made incredible claims about how God spoke to him all the time and that the angel Gabriel visited him often with messages, etc. At one point Bill claimed that he was one of the 2 witnesses described in the Book of Revelation. These statements made by Deagle can be verified and I heard him make some of them while listening to him in person. Not long after he was discontinued as a speaker and kind of disappeared.

My gut tells me every time I hear him speak that predominantly Bill is an attention seeker and loves hearing the sound of his own voice (didn't Deagle initiate the latest call?). We need to keep in mind that though he is obviously very intelligent a great deal of the information that he rattles off can be attained by scouring the net and simply claiming you're getting it from your "sources", etc. I did listen to his latest revelations via the phone interview w/Kerry re the 10/7 stuff, etc. and not for one instant did I feel any of it would come down like he was proclaiming and even if some of it would have transpired others were out there on the Net making similar claims of impending doom. Original with Bill? Not necessarily.

In the end I enjoy what Bill & Kerry bring to the table via Project Camelot, etc. but in terms of Bill Deagle I would strongly say "cease & desist" with your association.

[seekntruth]

I've listened to Dr. Deagle radio program extensively and he is often rather overbearing in his delivery. He doesn't interview people well at times, because he wants to interject his own perspective onto the discussion. That often results in him taking over the interview himself and he doesn't allow his guest to talk much.

That said, he certainly has revealed some extraordinary information over the years. In fact, I think he has been one of the trendsetters in the alternative news and whistleblower group. He is fearless and "in their face" about what he reveals. His courage to speak about what he knows has definitely given other people courage tell what they know. All in all he is helping us all pry open the lid of silence that has been slammed shut about many "secret" topics.

I was very intrigued when Dr. Deagle discussed his vision of being a part of the 24 humans brought in front of the celestial council (I don't recall the exact name he gave for that council). I've read about that council from other people in the past, and it's interesting that Earth could be the subject of such a hearing before that kind of council. Of course, everyone has to make up their own minds about that subject, but I tend to believe that there are such councils throughout the universe. After all, it makes sense for nations to converse together here on Earth and it would make even more sense that such a group would be formed for planetary societies as well.

Thank you Kerry and Bill! You both are the BEST!

[samvado]

I just listened to the 3 hour Deagle "interview". Can Someone please give me those 3 hours of my lifetime back?

I can put it into one sentence: This guy did not tell me anything I didnt know BUT he shows clear symptoms of SEVERE mental problems. He talks to the (christian it seems although he denies it) god directly, is his prophet and at the very end his "vision" for verybody is: get a lot of food, dig in, get a gun, start practicing to use it (on humans I might add) ....

Kerry and her man have never been the experts on discernment but this is hitting any kind of usage of my higher brain facilities over the head. Call me vindicitive if you have to - this guy is plain NUTS and his message is poisonous and dangerous.

please introduce a warning for all the trash from severely misguided individuals like this Deagle person you plan to publish in the future:
listening may cause headache ...

[migp]

I would like to have the transcript of that interview. He speaks very fast and it was difficult to me to understand it in full.

Thanks,