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droid56

10-28-2008, 05:36 AM

Hypnotize

10-28-2008, 06:15 AM

me and you are in the same boat. except number 5 lol. but yeah i would love ascension or a mass ET visitation but i have no idea if any of that will actualy happen and ive yet to see any undenyable truth.

Brinty

10-28-2008, 07:26 AM

None of us "knows" what the future will be. We have all heard or read what the future "could be", and many of us, (but not all), "believe" what the future will be. I strongly suggest that if we all concentrate on believing in a "positive" outcome for the future, then so it will come to pass. Why? because, by invoking the "100 monkey effect", we will ensure a positive outcome. :original:

Humble Janitor

10-28-2008, 07:44 AM

It's important to balance the positive with the negative. We can make a positive future for ourselves but we must be prepared for anything negative as well. It's important NOT to dwell on the negative stuff or we will end up creating that stuff.

Anchor

10-28-2008, 08:14 AM

These are my answers and my truth at this moment. I can't prove it of course and I might be wrong, but I promise I think its true.

I like your post because I like summaries like this - they are quite fun to do occasionally.

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
Yes - I will stake my life on that one.

2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
They do already, but not on a mass, undeniable, public stage; so I would say: no, not yet - maybe nearer 2012, and after we have done most of the work we need to do

3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
Yes - very freaking profound

4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
Not sure - if it is a reality, then it might be part of the ascension mechanism

5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?
Yes - quite surprised you ask this one.

There are lots more questions you could have asked :)

A..

crazycharlie

10-28-2008, 08:31 AM

Humble Janitor

10-28-2008, 08:50 AM

optimistic

10-28-2008, 09:18 AM

So I have to admit that I don't know what's really happening in regards to these alternative claims.

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

I've been feeling the same way, there are many signs that this stuff is going on - but direct evidence is very hard to find.

My take on it:

1. I'm open to the idea, but I can't say there's any objectionable evidence to support it.
2. According to contactees, not until we change, so this may not happen for a while - but it might happen within our lifetime.
3. I think some major changes will happen around 2012, many ancient cultures seem to hint at this independently.
4. I am not sure whether Planet X/Nibiru is real or disinformation
5. I think this is provable...

crazycharlie

10-28-2008, 09:53 AM

Pomguymguy

10-28-2008, 09:54 AM

well I would agree more or less with Anchors answers but
with #4 too much info about a planet X too not be something...
do not most astronomers say over half of all the stars we can see
and more are of a binary system? good chance planet X is simply
a brown dwarf/dark star...
but really what is it?
and why does the Vatican have so many telescopes?

5) The very wealthy PTB answer to negative
hyperdemensional beings that do NOT have our best interests
in mind... ( Just like we do not give too much room for
our Chickens,Cows,Pigs and Sheep. )

A very good (and short booklet FREE ) on line to check out
is at http://montalk.net
its called " Fringe Knowledge for Beginners"
also The RA material at llresearch.org
all their books are now FREE on-line
and The Wave series at cassiopaea.org

Many thanks for that montalk link buddy, I have several friends who I know will benefit from reading that info -- I totally agree with you - 110% about the way we treat animals... !

Here is the second half of Adrian Cooper's newsletter - He is very much of the same thoughts too !

You are what you eat
---------------------

I have chosen this subject due to the numerous messages I receive
on the subject of diet, as well as ongoing discussions in the Our
Ultimate Reality forums.

Now most people will have heard of the expression "we are what we
eat", but in most cases not fully appreciating the greater
meanings that make this saying true on these three levels.

1. Health

2. Ethical

3. Spiritual

Let us now take a closer look at each of these factors in turn.

1. Health:

First of all I realise that food is a touchy subject with many
people, but I make no apologies for bringing eating habits to your
attention.

If what I am about to present you with conflicts with your desired
lifestyle or comfort zone, perhaps you should consider whether this
and future newsletters are of value to you at this stage of your
evolution.

I am not writing about subjects that I think you want to hear, but
rather that you should hear for your own benefit, happiness and
above all - evolution.

The majority of people eating meat today do so not because they
feel they must eat animal flesh in order to survive and remain
healthy, but rather because eating meat is deeply entrenched in
their psyche, and has been from a very young age.

Babies are not born as avid meat eaters of animal flesh, and
neither do babies or young children require meat and dairy products
in order to survive and prosper.

The only reason that people eat meat is because, as with many other
aspects of society, such as religion, it is a family tradition.

Babies are not born with any pre-conceived ideas, customs or habits
whatsoever. Instead they are learned and conditioned as the child
grows.

A child in the early years, up to between the ages of 5 and 7, is
extremely receptive to everything they are taught by parents,
relatives and schools. This is because the brainwave frequency of
children, even when full awake, is at the Alpha or even borderline
Theta frequencies, which is an expanded stated of consciousness and
therefore of learning. This originates from the fact that
historically a baby and later young child must quickly learn
everything required for survival. This also applies to all animals.

This is also just one reason that very young children have many
inner abilities such as Clairvoyance, Telepathy and Telekinesis.

As the child grows, and becomes more equipped for survival, as he or
she becomes more "tuned" to the physical, material world, brainwave
frequencies increase in frequency to the faster Beta range.

So eating meat is learned - not "normal" or instinctive.

Once learned, I child will grow up believing that eating meat is
"normal" and will continue to eat it out of habit, just as a child
who is born in to a famly of a certain religion, will often devote
themselves to that religion for life, without ever considering the
alternatives.

If this person later becomes awakened, and realises that eating
animal flesh is not the thing to do, it becomes difficult at that
point to adjust to a more appropriate, healthy diet.

Much can be said, and evidence presented as to why eating meat and
dairy products is damaging for your health, but instead I will
recommend a book that everyone in the world should read:

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/the-china-study.html

Suffice it to say that eating meat and dairy products is directly
responsible for a very wide range of diseases, not the least of
which are obesity, diabetes, colon and other digestive tract
cancers, toxic and allergic reactions and premature ageing.

A common argument is that many animals in the wild eat meat so why
should not humans?

The fact is Divine Providence has provided a "food chain" which
every animal on the planet adheres to except for humans.

Humans are "designed" to eat natural whole plant based foods
provided in abundance by Divine Providence. This was even stated in
the Bible book of Genesis thus:

"God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which
is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears
fruit yielding seed. It will be your food". -- Genesis 1:29

Some people believe that plant food is not sufficient to provide
nutrition for full development of the physical body. Well consider
this:

The very largest animals on the planet - both on land and in the
sea - and including the mightiest dinosaurs of yester year - are all
plant eaters. Elephants, Rhino, Giraffe, Basking Shark,
Brontosaurus and all prehistoric sauropods - all herbivores - Vegan.

Others may say - "our ancient ancestors hunted and ate meat". Well
the fact is the our very earliest direct ancestors, which had a
very similar digestive system to ours, were exclusively plant
eaters.

Humans who eat natural, harvested whole foods - Vegans - are not
only much healthier than carnivorous humans, but also live for
between 7 and 15 years longer.

We started out as plant eaters and in order to fulfil this cycle of
evolution we must finish this cycle as plant based food eaters.

2. Ethical:

Animals reared artificially for food are often kept under extremely
adverse, crul and unnatural circumstances designed only for one
thing - the maximum production of meat and milk in order to gratify
the sense of taste of human beings.

Not only are they kept under such awful conditions, they are also
injected with all sorts of chemicals and hormones which are soon
absorbed in to the flesh of the animal or excreted in their milk.

Most people have visions of chickens happily clucking their way
around farmyards, cows peacefully grazing in the fields etc. But
these are the small minority. The reality for the majority of food
animals is completely different.

This video reveals all, but I warn you now it is horrific, even
though it is true:

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/meetyourmeat.html

Anyone eating meat and/or dairy products is always part of this
situation. I realise that to most people that meat is simply chunks
of red stuff on supermarket shelves, or cartons of milk or blocks or
cheese, but these conceal one of the greatest transgressions of
humans who were originally entrusted by God with their well-being.

3. Spiritual:

It could be argued that humans who have not evolved to a certain
level are still ignorant about true nature of animals and their
relationship with humans, or of the consequences of their actions
in eating milk or dairy products. But this does not excuse those
humans who have evolved to the stage where they should know better.

The fact is, animals are not separate to us - they are aspects of
ourselves and, like humans, aspects and part of the Whole. To kill,
harm or mistreat any animal - any animal for any reason - is to
kill, harm or mistreat part of ourselves and all life.

As we evolve and gain more understanding of the true nature of the
Universe, of all Creation, and of all life, we also gain full
realisation of the sanctity of all life, and our individual
responsibilities towards all life and ultimately to and of God.

Unawakened, unaware people can hide behind their material view of
the world, but those who have evolved to the next level have no
excuse - we either respect the equality of all in Creation, or we
regress.

The books of religions teaches this to their congregations thus:

He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man. -- Isaiah 66.3

If one has a strong desire for meat, he may make an animal out of
clarified butter, or one of flour, and eat that. But let him never
seek to destroy a living being. -- Manusmriti 5.37.174

As long as human society continues to allow cows to be regularly
killed in slaughterhouses, there cannot be any question of peace
and prosperity. -- A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by
the way in which its animals are treated. -- Mahatma Gandhi

Whoever is kind to the lesser creatures is kind to himself. --
Prophet Mohamed

There is not an animal on the earth, nor a flying creature flying
on two wings, but they are peoples like unto you. -- Koran, Surah 6,
Verse 38

So in conclusion - indeed you really are what you eat. If you wish
to evolve to the next evolution of human being, you must be the next
evolution of Human Being Now - a Human Being that understands the
Oneness and sanctity of all life, and chooses to live life as such.

Again - I realise that these revelations will not be popular with
some of you who are still eating the diet programmed in to your
Subconscious Mind by parents, teachers and society, and that some
of you enjoy gratifying your senses of smell and taste through
meat, milk and cheese, but I would be failing in my service to you
if I said only those things that you would wish to hear apposed to
those you need to hear and act upon for your own benefit and above
all Spiritual Evolution.

But as always you have the Divine freewill to make your own choices.

As the saying goes: "don't shoot the messenger".

I am here to be of service, and that is what I will continue to do.

Until next newsletter enjoy a wonderful, healthy and abundant week.

In Love, Light and Truth,

Adrian.
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/our-ultimate-reality-the-book.html
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/newsletters-2005-2007.html
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/science-of-being-paperback.html
http://www.scienceofbeing27lessons.com
http://www.ourultimatereality.com
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums

Additional resources:

http://www.mindpowerbooks.com
http://www.charleshaanelbooks.com
http://www.developingpsychicpowers.com
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums
http://www.thewayofthecrystal.com

quest

10-28-2008, 11:46 AM

hi Droid,
to me, your questions, and i think many of us have similar questions, otherwise we wouldn’t be on this forum, are leading towards one conclusion;
finding my own truth is all what matters. what’s meant to be secret will be secret until we will know, until then its just distraction.

Humble Janitor

10-28-2008, 12:31 PM

I forgot for those who feel like your
a "Stranger in a Strange Land"

The book " Wanderers Handbook"
is also FREE on line now at the library section
http://llresearch.org

One should do a poll on this site ?
I wonder how many of us really feel
like we don't belong here & what the HELL is
going on .....

I was thinking out loud to myself this morning and I realized that I no longer feel connected to this world like I once did. A lot of things that I used to enjoy are no longer that enjoyable. I think it's possible that I've matured enough to a point where everything bores me and I want to be challenged by something.

Humble Janitor

10-28-2008, 12:34 PM

Myplanet2

10-28-2008, 01:46 PM

I'll take a crack at it.

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?

Yes. Most definitely. But it's misunderstood more often than not. For example, most ascensions are temporary. Most ascensions occur in relation to one specific aspect of our existence. They are personal spiritual enlightenments. I'm feeling or intuiting that there is something much bigger and more profound than these personal ascensions coming up in the near future, but that it's well within our sphere's of influences and choices to see it through, or to blow it yet again. This isn't something that "happens to us", it's something "we do", and while pushing up hill against opposition. We're in a battle, and recess is over.

2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?

They're here, and for a very long time. Mass landing seems unlikely, as it would interfere with the game going on, which has a very pivotal importance. ET visitors are both corporeal and non-corporeal.

3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?

This seems certain, although not yet set as to which "flavour" of reality will prevail.

4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?

No idea. The likelihood, in my opinion, is that this one is entirely "timeline" related. some potential futures available to us may have this option, and some perhaps not.

5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

Very much yes. But the lie is different at every level, and this applies to them as well. many of these people are under subtle, but powerful control of ET entities, or their minions. They have no idea that they are at much at risk as the rest of us. Big surprise coming for them as things unfold.

These answers are simply my opinions, and notice the frequent use of "likely" and "perhaps".

What is going to happen, is up to us. This is a major obstacle that we face, is waking people up to this fact. It's all up to us, and we have way more than enough power to shift this game in our direction, but only if we step up and make the necessary changes, starting with ourselves, and the realization that "no drop of water thinks it started the tsunami".

We're making progress, but need more intention and responsibility.

nirvanapirate

10-28-2008, 02:50 PM

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

Great questions!

1. This appears to be an actual phenomenon. David Wilcock has shown that with the hyperdimensional quantaum physics model, there can exist a state of vibration that doesn't change despite external changes, and yet when energy is increased, at a threshold, there is symmetry breaking and a new, more complex model is formed. That appears to be the underlying basis of our change, is that we are physically going through this phase change, and then breaking out on the other side with a new body, DNA fully manifested, light body etc...

Will we feel this? Will it be painful? You could ask the same about when you die.. but my guess is, is that this transformation is more natural then I could ever put into words.

2. ET is ready to come here... I think the humans are ready for the ET's. There was the Ruport poll that showed public increased interest in UFO disclosure. The difficult part how to let the people know what the governments and ET's have been working on together for over 50 years, and the IF of will we ever find out.

3. Yes. 2012 represents and major paradigm shift in human consciousness that has not happened in at least 12,000-24,000 years and possibly longer. It means how we view lives, our existance, our purpose will change. We have a lot of problems RIGHT NOW that we need to fix, and I think it is giving us some good incentive to come up with some neat, creative solutions.

4.Planet X has a strong possibility of existing. There was the report in the late 80's of a gaseous object located at the edge of our solar system, and only with infra-red techonlogy development then and after were able to study it. My problem with the idea is that it just happens to be an event at the same time as this celestial crossing... so whether there are two events... crossing and a planet visiting... or just crossing. Remember the Mesopoatamions not too long ago depicted Nibiru in their architecture, and Sky Gods that came to visit.

5. There are wealthy, elite people right now who have power, and are struggling to retain it. Some of the family lines are hundreds of years old and their power came from the original banking insitutions in Europe... Rothschilds and Rockefellers... The problem with their struggle is that there is so much momentum going into the next 8 years... people want transparancy, they want global solutions... the internet is spreading ideas faster and increasing psychadellically... our media HAS changed much from what is has been the last few hundred years. These are just a few problems facing the wealthy elite.

micjer

10-28-2008, 03:37 PM

Emman

10-28-2008, 04:31 PM

I take issue with the idea that humans are not meant to eat meat.

I think that food needs vary from person to person. I personally can't imagine eating only vegetables and nothing else. It just isn't feasible for me because I like the occassional steak or hamburger and I usually prefer leaner meats.

The only way I will ever be able to abandon my own desire to eat meat and dairy products is if I have some help in the transition because I cannot do it on my own.

I can totally relate to what you are saying, End Times. Not too long ago I could not imagine not eating meat. I love a perfectly done tenderloin with a good merlot. I love my favorite BBQ sandwich place called Pecos Pit. I love a juicy burger with a fried egg on top....etc.

However.....I made a shift. I no longer eat meat or eggs. I started out vegan for the first couple months, but I settled into a vegetarian mode as I will still eat a little seafood and cheese occassionally. I shifted to a plant based diet. Believe me when I say this: I am totally blown away that I actually shifted in this lifetime! Like I said, I could not imagine not having all of those meat based foods I listed. But, I did it. It's one of the most proudest things I've done. I'm proud of myself because I felt I could never break away from meat. Here's a brief synopsis of my process.

A few years ago when I was totally getting into the subject matter of everything Camelot and Avalon is about, that brought about an awareness of many things. Of those things I became aware about the treatment of animals for food and what that's all about. You know, each of us is ascending everytime we realize something of truth. That is, at each level we progress we awaken, we ascend. We shift in our consciousness. This awareness brought me to the sacredness of life and our interconnectedness with everything on the planet. Not saying anything new here for you all. My awareness of the unconscionable treatment of animals for our food brought me a desire to one day become a vegetarian. For over a year I would say to people that it would be good to ultimately become a vegetarian. I just didn't think I could do it right away if at all in this life. I really loved to eat all that good stuff that I mentioned!

It was earlier this year when I saw George Green's first interview on PC that I began to really shift gears. I devoured Green's 3 ebooks on his site. I consider myself part of the Ground Crew. I feel as if I went into something of an accelerated mode in shifting for preparation for what we are going through right now and the near times ahead. I also purchased the Rave Diet book from Green's site. This was the nudge that got me to shift. I desired to become a plant eating person because of the evil treatment of our animals, but I shifted when I became aware of the health issues of a meat based diet. My understanding has also been that eating meat brings a heaviness in vibration to one's being. I'm not saying that you can't be spiritual and be a meat eater. But, I feel that getting off of meat definitely lightens the vibes within. I want to raise my vibrations, and being a vegetarian helps bring that about. That's my opinion.

So, pretty much immediately after reading the Rave Diet and watching the very enlightening CD that came with the book called Eating, I switched to a plant based diet literally overnight. I didn't ease into it. I just became a vegan--at first. After a couple months like I said, I settled into a vegetarian diet, which is where I'm at now. It's been 6 months. The thing that friends and associates say to me is how's that diet going? It's not a diet I'm trying to maintain or seeing how long I can do this meatless thing. It's a shift. A total shift. It happened. All those things I used to love to eat are really wonderful memories. It's akin to wonderful memories I had as a child playing children's games, but as much fun as that was I could never revisit that again because I am no longer a child. Pleasant memories though. Such is my case with meat.

I must say that all the reasons for my shift are pretty much exactly what Pomguymguy stated.

It's a timely thing that I shifted because of the way the economy is and where we may be headed. I have become more resourceful in terms of preparing food and keeping my money in my wallet instead of eating fast food. I discovered that I am actually pretty good in the kitchen. I rarely eat out anymore. I lost weight naturally. I feel better knowing what I put in my body will not bring me down. I don't have indigestion anymore (used to go through Tums and Rolaids like candy everyday). Saved money by cooking more and not going out. My family hasn't followed me, but I feel I'm setting a good example for my kids in regards to animal ethics and health. Maybe one day they'll know what I know and shift also.

harmony

10-28-2008, 04:36 PM

Thanks Pomguymguy,
I appreciate what you have written. While I still eat meat, I find my feelings about it are changing. I think what you are saying is making sense. Some of it is gradually sinking in here. I grew up eating meat as many do - without truly thinking about it. But now that I am really thinking about things - I see the connections to the rest of the world. I am not ready to give up my hamburgers....yet. But little by little my diet is changing. I plan on searching what is right for me - but also what is right for all.

I have read so much in the past few years that I feel the need to know MORE! It finally became recognizable. But your points were heard here today.

BTW - I read "Fringe Knowledge for Beginners" the other day, and it really reasonated with me.

I just wish I had others to talk to that don't think I am completely crazy. That is frustruating! But does not move me in the least. When will they figure all this out too?

Swanny

10-28-2008, 04:55 PM

Plants have feeling too :wink2:

I hope you veggies don't eat fish :original:

Carol

10-28-2008, 06:12 PM

I've been reading alternative stuff for two or three years. I feel fairly confident that something special is happening, and I feel confident that main stream media isn't telling the whole truth.

But my understanding of the alternative ideas is very limited. Normally, when you want to evaluate the legitimacy of various claims, you ask for evidence. But evidence isn't, for the most part, available for claims involving the strange ideas of this realm.

So I have to admit that I don't know what's really happening in regards to these alternative claims.

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

I can't feel confident that I can answer any of these questions.

I keep reading, but I'm frustrated that I still don't know what's really happening.

Welcome to the unfurling edge of creation.. with time speeding up it's more difficult to look into the future as it is being created moment by moment with more and more people who are waking up to the reality that their intention can alter future events. Time is now being caught up is the ongoing crashing waves of creative manifestation. The future is now anyones guess.

raoulduke666

10-28-2008, 10:11 PM

IMHO, I'm still perplexed on what (if anything) will happen within the next few years until 2012. The skeptic part of me of course says nothing will happen. Don't get me wrong, I want SOMETHING to happen though! From my research into the paranormal/conspiracy theories over the years, it still hard for me to grasp the concept of something extrodinary happening to change the way we live our lives.

2012 reminds me a little bit of what happened with Y2K. People were going hysterical about it being the coming end of the world but NOTHING happened...well, worth talking about. And I am leaning towards that way with 2012. But as I remember, not too many people worried about Y2K until 1999 but I wasnt into the whole paranormal subject so I didn't do any researching back then. But we still do have 4 years till 2012 so I believe there is alot more focus ion 2012 than Y2K.

The problem being skeptical (with is of course with any conspiracy), is that there is no hardcore scientific proof. Sure there are paranormal websites/books out there that state the opposite but how do WE really know they are telling the truth? Just because they wrote a book, have a video interview on Camelot or sound like they know what they are talking about? Thats what gets me on Camelot interviews, the HARD questions are never asked.

-where is your proof? (Example-Duncan O'finioan interview he said he had wires all along one of his arms to amplify his strength but of course he didn't have an X-Ray to prove it.)
-should we just believe you just because?
-who are you sources? (of course its always confidential no matter who the whistleblower or their source. So how are WE supposed to know?)

I guess with all my ranting the only real way to determine what will happen in the future is going by what you research yourself. Of course ,what I believe is not 100% proof but if anything, I see a possible new world order or something thereof. I DO want some type of ascention to occur but there is no proof of it occuring and it sounds like fairy tale to ME atleast more than anything. I mean who doesn't want something to happen to change how our world works? I would assume everyone that is a member of this forum would want something like that to occur.

Believe what all your research points finally towards, but don't believe what those sources says because who knows what their real intentions are. I wish 2012 would hurry up and get here though so I know for a FACT what will happen! Fingers are crossed for ascention! :trumpet:

Deoxyan

10-28-2008, 10:25 PM

from my experience all this is just an exercise of faith in the full significance of the word.

Jacqui D

10-28-2008, 10:35 PM

I've been reading alternative stuff for two or three years. I feel fairly confident that something special is happening, and I feel confident that main stream media isn't telling the whole truth.

But my understanding of the alternative ideas is very limited. Normally, when you want to evaluate the legitimacy of various claims, you ask for evidence. But evidence isn't, for the most part, available for claims involving the strange ideas of this realm.

So I have to admit that I don't know what's really happening in regards to these alternative claims.

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

I can't feel confident that I can answer any of these questions.

I keep reading, but I'm frustrated that I still don't know what's really happening.

I think number 1 is a possible scenario, i'm counting on this one i can't see any other way that this earth will change other wise.
2. The ET's are already here and part of our make up anyway so yes!
3, Not sure about the 2012 thing change is coming but is 2012 the actual year hmm! can we be sure the years are in sync that's the prob.
4. Planet X urm!!! not sure on that one either we will have to wait and see.
5. Oh definately........ always have been always will unless this acsension takes place.
A mass change is coming we should all feel extremely lucky it has come in our time, we will be the most talked about race in the future i think, for the leap of mankind. :thumb_yello:

Rareheart

10-28-2008, 11:14 PM

All of the questions deal with physical illusion.

Reality only exists WITHIN each of us...so our individual answers can only explain what is inside each of us.

My answers won't work to explain your perceptions.

Anchor

10-29-2008, 03:42 AM

stal

10-29-2008, 04:56 AM

heres my two cents

1 - yeah i think so

2 - imo not enough individuals yet to warrant public contact. when its time it will happen. they've been here for a while now, and dont all want the same thing, and arent all from the same place :wink2:, so it is a bit tricky.

3 - probably. i have no idea what will actualy happen though. either we all die in water and fire, or all ascend to 4D. hmmm, maybe thats how we get there? or nothing much happens and its business as usual. or something in between . i dont know.

4 - i like the other guys answer about timelines.

5 - they already run the planet. have done for a long long time. all thats happening now is a tightening of the reigns. i'll agree with what was said above about the lie being different at every level too. the people who you think run the show arent always the ones who actualy do.

Rocky_Shorz

10-29-2008, 05:22 AM

3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
Yes - very freaking profound

5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?
Yes - quite surprised you ask this one.

A..

Lucky I was only drinking water when I sprayed my keyboard... :winksmiley02:

The interesting part about the wealthy struggle going on is there is a new player that hasn't been around for a few thousand years...

European Bankers have run the show since modern time began, one yank on a string and a Country would crumble...

They lost the control they've always had, a planned lesson turned into disaster for themselves, the power they had, is gone.

The attention right now is on each other, and they don't have time to watch all of us that are hopping off their wheel...

We're fed up with their control, and will stand by with our arms crossed and allow the system to crumble.

This response is a first, they don't know how to control us, they looked at Martial Law and realized that won't work because the military and police are Americans, and will shove a gun up the hole of any banker that tries to turn them against us...

I think they are on the edge of tossing in their hands...

Nov 7th is when their window closes for their plan...

Game over man...:tongue2:

Anchor

10-29-2008, 11:28 AM

I was thinking out loud to myself this morning and I realized that I no longer feel connected to this world like I once did. A lot of things that I used to enjoy are no longer that enjoyable. I think it's possible that I've matured enough to a point where everything bores me and I want to be challenged by something.

Challenge yourself.

dataeast

10-29-2008, 01:06 PM

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
Yeah, if I understand correctly what that means.
2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
They have been already.
3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
For some.
4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
I don't know, they keep finding more planets/planetoids, so maybe one will be X.
5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?
No, they already are in control.

Cheers

Humble Janitor

11-01-2008, 09:37 PM

I can totally relate to what you are saying, End Times. Not too long ago I could not imagine not eating meat. I love a perfectly done tenderloin with a good merlot. I love my favorite BBQ sandwich place called Pecos Pit. I love a juicy burger with a fried egg on top....etc.

However.....I made a shift. I no longer eat meat or eggs. I started out vegan for the first couple months, but I settled into a vegetarian mode as I will still eat a little seafood and cheese occassionally. I shifted to a plant based diet. Believe me when I say this: I am totally blown away that I actually shifted in this lifetime! Like I said, I could not imagine not having all of those meat based foods I listed. But, I did it. It's one of the most proudest things I've done. I'm proud of myself because I felt I could never break away from meat. Here's a brief synopsis of my process.

A few years ago when I was totally getting into the subject matter of everything Camelot and Avalon is about, that brought about an awareness of many things. Of those things I became aware about the treatment of animals for food and what that's all about. You know, each of us is ascending everytime we realize something of truth. That is, at each level we progress we awaken, we ascend. We shift in our consciousness. This awareness brought me to the sacredness of life and our interconnectedness with everything on the planet. Not saying anything new here for you all. My awareness of the unconscionable treatment of animals for our food brought me a desire to one day become a vegetarian. For over a year I would say to people that it would be good to ultimately become a vegetarian. I just didn't think I could do it right away if at all in this life. I really loved to eat all that good stuff that I mentioned!

It was earlier this year when I saw George Green's first interview on PC that I began to really shift gears. I devoured Green's 3 ebooks on his site. I consider myself part of the Ground Crew. I feel as if I went into something of an accelerated mode in shifting for preparation for what we are going through right now and the near times ahead. I also purchased the Rave Diet book from Green's site. This was the nudge that got me to shift. I desired to become a plant eating person because of the evil treatment of our animals, but I shifted when I became aware of the health issues of a meat based diet. My understanding has also been that eating meat brings a heaviness in vibration to one's being. I'm not saying that you can't be spiritual and be a meat eater. But, I feel that getting off of meat definitely lightens the vibes within. I want to raise my vibrations, and being a vegetarian helps bring that about. That's my opinion.

So, pretty much immediately after reading the Rave Diet and watching the very enlightening CD that came with the book called Eating, I switched to a plant based diet literally overnight. I didn't ease into it. I just became a vegan--at first. After a couple months like I said, I settled into a vegetarian diet, which is where I'm at now. It's been 6 months. The thing that friends and associates say to me is how's that diet going? It's not a diet I'm trying to maintain or seeing how long I can do this meatless thing. It's a shift. A total shift. It happened. All those things I used to love to eat are really wonderful memories. It's akin to wonderful memories I had as a child playing children's games, but as much fun as that was I could never revisit that again because I am no longer a child. Pleasant memories though. Such is my case with meat.

I must say that all the reasons for my shift are pretty much exactly what Pomguymguy stated.

It's a timely thing that I shifted because of the way the economy is and where we may be headed. I have become more resourceful in terms of preparing food and keeping my money in my wallet instead of eating fast food. I discovered that I am actually pretty good in the kitchen. I rarely eat out anymore. I lost weight naturally. I feel better knowing what I put in my body will not bring me down. I don't have indigestion anymore (used to go through Tums and Rolaids like candy everyday). Saved money by cooking more and not going out. My family hasn't followed me, but I feel I'm setting a good example for my kids in regards to animal ethics and health. Maybe one day they'll know what I know and shift also.

Good for you. As I said, I am open to making that change in my life but as I get older (I'm still quite young) I realize that some things are not so easy to accomplish on my own and I need more motivation or inspiration for others to help me get where I'm going.

371

11-01-2008, 11:05 PM

Good questions, but IMO these answers don't matter. As Brinty said no one can predict the future.

Time is fluid, it flows in a certain direction but it can easily be diverted into a million different streams.

You can't live for what might happen, after all- if the world comes to an end/we acsend/planet x comes, there're nothing you can do about it. You can be prepared, but stressing about it will just take away from the time remaing if in fact that is the case.

Don't stop searching for answers, just don't let the possibilites get you down. Live for today, make the best out of life.

lightwalker

11-01-2008, 11:43 PM

Just for fun......and do as you will with this transcript....October 2008

BASHAR

SUBJECT: 2012

WE UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PEOPLE ON YOUR PLANET HAVE LOOKED AT THAT TIME FRAME .. AND ..

FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW… WHAT IT BASICALLY REPRESENTS IS.. THE “IDEA” THAT YOUR COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS HAS BEEN BUILDING UP AND BUILDING UP AND BUILDING UP ….TO AN IDEA OF:

SELF EXPRESSION …AWAKENING… AND ENLIGHTENMENT.

THE IDEA THAT YOU CALL 2012 REPRESENTS THE LEADING EDGE OF THAT WAVE ..WHERE WAVE FORMS BUILD UP ON EACH OTHER AND CREATE A WAVE FRONT MOVING ALONG.

2012 REPRESENTS THE TIMING IN YOUR COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS WHERE THE WAVE FRONT CROSSES THE THRESHOLD OF YOUR CRITICAL MASS SO FROM THAT POINT FORWARD YOU WILL HAVE BEGUN TO CREATE MORE POSITIVE ENERGY THAN NEGATIVE.

NOW IT DOESN’T MEAN THE VERY NEXT DAY EVERYTHING WILL BE FLOWERS AND LIGHT.

BUT WHAT IT DOES MEAN THAT THE VERY NEXT DAY

"IT COULD BE” ……

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE POSITIVE ENERGY THAN NEGATIVE

REMEMBER…IT DOESN’T TAKE AS MANY PEOPLE POSITIVELY ORIENTED TO OVER BALANCE AND OUT WEIGH THOUSANDS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.. BECAUSE POSITIVE ENERGY IS COLLECTIVE AND INTEGRATIVE AND NEGATIVE ENERGY IS SEGRAGATIVE.

SO IT ONLY TAKES SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND HUMANS TO COMPLETLEY OUT BALANCE SEVERAL BILLION NEGATIVE ONES…

AND BY 2012, YOU WILL HAVE ENOUGH POSITIVELY ORIENTED HUMANS ON YOUR PLANET SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE TIPPED THE SCALES AND BEGUN TO ALLOW FOR MORE POSITIVE ENERGY ON EARTH THAN NEGATIVE AND THAT WILL BEGIN TO ACCELLERATE FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

NOW… 2012 ALSO REPRESENTS SEVERAL OTHER THINGS AMONG THEM..

WELL…….LET ME BACK UP A MINUTE..AND EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU..

WE UNDERSTAND THAT MANY DIFFERENT FORMS OF MEDIA ON YOUR PLANET .. SUCH AS FILM AND TELEVISION AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CREATE MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF STORIES TO PROJECT THE IDEA OF FUTURE REALITES IN THOSE MEDIA WE BELIEVE YOU CALL IT “SCIENCE FICTION” .

AND MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH A“SCIENCE FICTION” PROGRAM THAT HAS BECOME SYNONOMOUS WITH YOUR CULTURE, WHAT YOU CALL “STAR TREK”… AND IN THAT STAR TREK PROGRAM THERE IS A PARTICULAR PRINCIPLE THAT HAS BEEN CALLED AND INVENTED BY THE WRITERS AS “PRIME DIRECTIVE”.. HANDS OFF THE SOCIETY.. NO INTERVENTION UNTIL

THEY’RE READY.

2012 IS THE END OF THE QUARANTINE OF EARTH.

NOW AGAIN.. IT DOESN’T MEAN THERE WILL BE SHIPS LANDING EVERYWHERE THE NEXT DAY.

SO PLEASE DO NOT GO HOME AND SAY “BASHAR SAID” THERE WILL BE MASS UFO LANDINGS THE NEXT DAY ..
YOU UNDERSTAND ..

THE HANDS OFF POLICY WILL BE ENDED.
WHICH MEANS..
FROM THAT POINT FORWARD OUR ABILITY TO ACCELLERATE CONTACT WITH YOU WILL BE DETERMINED SOLEY BY YOU AND HOW FAST YOU ARE READY. IT IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY OUR AGENDA ABOUT WHEN WE THINK YOU ARE READY.

IT WILL BE TOTALLY IN THE HANDS OF YOUR PEOPLE TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU ARE READY FOR CONTACT.
AND…
BY THE WAY OF COURSE THE WRITERS THAT “INVENTED” THE PRIME DIRECTIVE OF COURSE RECEIVED THAT…AS A “DOWNLOAD”

lightwalker

you can Google Bashar

Xhaosis

11-02-2008, 01:03 AM

The future is not ours... That has ****** us off since well.. the beginning... Its what we do, that shapes our future.. We can WORK, for a better one or stand around and talk about what is happening, its how you see the world, and learn.. As far as knowing whats happening I have control in my life, so I know what is happening..

Keep your wits about you folks.. That is all I can say..

as far as 2012, I like the scriptures as a better alternative... Still much to learn from those old ancient words... Most of my wisdom has been planted by this form of wisdom... trying to understand what the world is doing is not that important, its what you are doing that is... Do your best to do good and do right, and the world will start looking good... I just wish more and more people could understand it is YOu, and me that is the World... It starts with us.. that is your Dang Ascension.. Folks... Lead or be a follower... The future is shaped with what is for right now...

May God's love be with you...

PEACE

Rareheart

11-02-2008, 01:06 AM

BY THE WAY OF COURSE THE WRITERS THAT “INVENTED” THE PRIME DIRECTIVE OF COURSE RECEIVED THAT…AS A “DOWNLOAD”

I like and agree with everything Bashar says, however, I keep seeing instructions to gather all the data available, and hold on to only that which resonates within...I got that down...anyway...the above quote indicates that whomever "downloaded" information into said "Star Trek writer" also violated the "hands off" treaty...the treaty that is supposed to end in 2012...no?
So it's a game of cat and mouse...this truth seeking.
:original:

I totally resonate with all of the other stuff Bashar said...the critical mass concept, and :
POSITIVE ENERGY IS COLLECTIVE AND INTEGRATIVE AND NEGATIVE ENERGY IS SEGRAGATIVE.

I also think that the critical mass will be reached when a large number of people realize that the only real truth comes from within...for now most will continue to seek it from external sources.

All Love.

Merlin

11-02-2008, 01:12 AM

Xhaosis

11-02-2008, 01:17 AM

Ok my go,

1) What do you mean by ascension. I find this word bandied about alot but what do YOU mean when you use the word ascension. If it is to rise in consiousness, yes this happens all the time to millions of people every day, little by little. If you mean all of a sudden your gonna find yourself in another, better dimension, with a light body, then no.

2) I have no idea what the E.T.s are ready for or not, you had better ask them. If you can.

3) Very possibly yes. What that change is, Im still working on that one, Stay positive!

4) Don't discount anything at the moment (except for the GFOL). The Vatican seem to have a healthy interest in the skies. The Vatican, by the way, hold the oldest, most secret knowladge on the planet. Think of that.

5) Nobody has control of the planet, She controls, and can look after herself.

Cheerio!

Merlin.

I agree, but once again these answers are not as important as what we do tomorrow, or right now as you and me... Does that make sense? Its what we do that shape the future Merlin... Its not this cracker jack prize at the bottom of the box bs.. Its not that important, it was not then when we saw the cheap toy, and not now.. Or even the bottum of a cereal box.. Look I am not trying to be a jerk, but knowing these answers to a persons fiction trying to make it non fiction thru faith has already been done thousands of years ago. Not to mention if you look thruout history their has ALWAYS been a doomsday.. the errrr Bible or other wise scriptures are so much better then just beleiving in youtube snake oil salesmen and women.. Such a shame...

PEACE

Xhaosis

11-02-2008, 01:28 AM

I dont wanna high jack this thread to bad, but my advice to those that are scared and what not . First things you need to do..

I. Research alternative energy. (I am in this industry have any questions send me a PM.)

II. Work on your faith, I suggest the BIBLE.. Another good alternative is Budism, have something to live for..

III. Work to make a better world help someone in need, give someone advice in something your good at etc.. Do something for free.. Be nice..

IV. BE BRAVE..

V. Work for your belief, you want a better life, do you best to shape the here and now into that future..

dont worry about always trying to understand it.. There are times we wont. thats when you try to WORK towards understanding it..

PEACE..

Merlin

11-02-2008, 01:30 AM

Xhaosis,

"I agree, but once again these answers are not as important as what we do tomorrow, or right now as you and me... Does that make sense? Its what we do that shape the future Merlin..." Makes perfect sense, I agree fully.

"the errrr Bible or other wise scriptures are so much better then just beleiving in youtube snake oil salesmen and women.." Well, although I am a spiritual being, I've never had any time for religion to be honest.

Merlin

Xhaosis

11-02-2008, 01:35 AM

Xhaosis,

"I agree, but once again these answers are not as important as what we do tomorrow, or right now as you and me... Does that make sense?" Its what we do that shape the future Merlin..." Makes perfect sense, I agree fully.

"the errrr Bible or other wise scriptures are so much better then just beleiving in youtube snake oil salesmen and women.." Well, although I am a spiritual being, I've never had any time for religion to be honest.

Merlin

Aye, its better to digest, this PHILOSOPHY of trying to be good, and do your be st to be good, whether it be for a god or yourself, that is important.. Don't have to make it religious brother.. You could be on the outside looking in.. I myself believe but do not forsake.. In addition to that anything that is wise is rich in wisdom, their other books to read that ancient as well..

PEACE bro..

Xhaosis

11-02-2008, 01:42 AM

Aye, its better to digest, this PHILOSOPHY of trying to be good, and do your be st to be good, whether it be for a god or yourself, that is important.. Don't have to make it religious brother.. You could be on the outside looking in.. I myself believe but do not forsake.. In addition to that anything that is wise is rich in wisdom, their other books to read that ancient as well..

PEACE bro..

the biggest problem with religion is the GOD's.. But why can we not learn from all the God's we are putting up on a pedestals.. What we are talking about now.. Right now, in the internet has already been discussed eons ago.. Same fears same hopes same everything, same unknowns... But if you can be wise enough to read these scrolls without the so called obligations you can be very wise.. Its that stupid stigma, of my god is better, or my belief is better, welcome the the 21st century where as ignorant as it sounds and sounded before man believes he is his own god once again.. By the way I thank which ever god it was for this breath I take right now.. Did you hear that big boom,, wow it put everything perfectly in place... time to wake up folks... We aint that smart... This did not just happen... Its a technology... that was conciously conceived.. To complex to be a simple apple dropping off the tree...

PEACE

Merlin

11-02-2008, 01:48 AM

Xhaosis

11-02-2008, 01:55 AM

sorry, did not like the tone...

Great post droid56!!

Thanks for helping me learn.

PEACE

eagle02

11-02-2008, 03:34 AM

droid56
I like the Post.
There are a lot of questions that revolve around the very subject of Who are we, Where are we, and where are we going?
This is as close as we have ever come as: Man to the begining of what most people think is the end. What I have found is Hope!!!
It is not the end but the Begining of our future. Yes we will all see most of the events unless a house falls on us but, the resource of what I am about to describe can only come from the source. Who is this source of Man?
None other than the God of Abraham.
The Scriptures are very confusing and vague to most and to those who were there in the Desciples company When Christ himself told them why, what and when his return would look like, they knew what he meant due to the society at that time. If we went back and tried to tell someone back there what a telephone looked like, would they understand? I doubt it.
The Hebrew Writing, (pardon my spelling) Torra is where the keys are. God dosen't want us to perish.Many people react and their eyes roll back and shake their heads in disbelief
when ever God is mentioned so those would not be interested in this and thats ok.
So Here We Go!
1)Assention is real and will occur other than what is commonly taught through ET or Christs return by the church.
2) ET is ready but will not happen until after armagedon.
3) 2012 is no more than the passing through the Ecliptic Plain or Aquarious. It is a noted Date also for an estimate of when Nibiru will arrive.
4) Planet X is a common term for a newly discovered planets by astronimers and other scientists which has not yet been named.
6) There have been the crooked who have ruled since the beginning of time unfornutately in our current Time yes they are and believe me not all the wealthy are Evil.
The best I can say is that this will only serve to cause you to seek out and study all the information you can. Don't take my word for it. I can follow up on your Questions in detail with proper enquiry. Drop me a line and I can fill you in.
Here is the first thing that we will see.
The Israeli Government will inflame the Muslim countries causing all the Muslim countries to allign together and attack Israel. The Israeli's will see the hopelessness and will enact their Defense and in one day will win and in succeding prior to Russa and the United States reacting. It will be over and many places will not be inhabited again.
We will see this between 2009 and 2010
Nibiru is only able to destroy one third the population, land, water. This will cause the United States to come under nuclear attack by our Enimies. After Nibiru passes they won't have anything to loose and will be able to gain world power.
These are not visions or folklore but here it is, The Egyptians during and after the Exodus
with Moses described the Perturber.
I Love my country and believe the USA was promised and given to the world by God in order to preserve more than just people as a nation.
The problem is that we are no longer represented with liberty and jusice for all.

God Bless

droid56

11-02-2008, 05:47 AM

I'm going to try to answer the questions I asked in the original post, but I once again want to say I don't know what's really happening. But here are my guesses.

1. While I love the idea that planet Earth, along with this aging body of mine, is ready to graduate to a higher dimension, my intuition says this planet, and my body, is firmly rooted in a physical dimension that permits aging, disease and death for my body, and warfare, starvation, and nuclear war for the planet as a whole. I hope I'm wrong.

I do believe in dimensions higher than the 3rd, but I believe that graduation only potentially occurs between incarnations.

2. ET stepped up their presence after 2 atomic bombs exploded in 1945. They seem to be slowly entering our global consciousness, but do I think they are really planning to make an appearance in the next few years?

My answer is maybe. But if they do, be very skeptical about their true motives. I believe they may have been exploiting our planet for a very long time. Not all ET. Just the grays, and others that are connected to the grays. Consider false flag possibilities.

3. I'm on the fence in regards to 2012. Once again I really hope that 2012 will bring about a transformation on our planet. We need it badly.

If I had to bet the house on 2012 bringing the prophesied changes, I wouldn't do it. The history of prophetic predictions involves way more misses than hits. But I pray to no god that this time prophesy is right.

If it doesn't happen soon, then it will probably be too late.

4. Planet X? (How about Comet X?) The evidence seems to suggest that Planet X is highly unlikely, but I'm going to keep an open mind for the next 2 years. If the destroyer doesn't appear, then I will breathe a sigh of relief.

5. Illuminati? I'm not sure there is a loose organization of rich, powerful people (families) plotting to establish a One-World-Government by creating chaos so that we turn over the reins of power to them.

But of these 5 questions stated above, I think this is the most likely.

And I think some ET factions are playing a role in this evil scenario.

But, once again, I don't really have a clue what's really happening.

Merlin

11-02-2008, 08:34 PM

droid56,

"But, once again, I don't really have a clue what's really happening"

Yep, just like 99.9999999% of us all, I would say.

See Ya,

Merlin.

2infinityandbeyond

11-02-2008, 09:57 PM

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?

From what i am aware, we are currently undergoing a shift in conciosness, a shift in energetic vibrational frequencies.
This has been happening since 1987 and as far as i know the schuman resonance is now nearing 13 hz, whereas up until 1987 it had been a constant 6 or 7 (not too sure)

This means that we are entering into a realm where thoughts become manifestations with relative ease. Ive noticed through my entire life that this phenomina has become easier and easier up unto the point that now i have no problem manifesting anything that i feel is good for me.

2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?

People are not ready for ET's to appear on this world, although some of them are.. the majority most definitly are not. The people are much too fearfull and as you can imagine this would not be very comfortable to beings of a higher vibration.

3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?

In and around i think, noone knows for sure. But most of the evidence does point to this specific date. Time will tell.

4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?

The term 'Planet X' is a crock of manure. It is like saying are gothic people evil.. the term is just so general at this point that it could mean a million things.

5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

They are already in control and have been for many many years.

..what a wonderfull world...

Reunite

11-02-2008, 10:20 PM

In my humble opinion

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
Yes, for those who accept the idealogy. Also per the RA material 51% service to others.

2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
Yes, only to the selected few. Look at 'The disclosure Project' for evidence

3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
Yes, pointing to Terrence Mckenna's novelty theory- fractual waveform know as Timewave zero suggests this. Suppressed technology like 'The Looking Glass' can't see beyond 2012. The Age of Aquarius is one of the twelve astrological ages that starts again on this date as recorded by the masters of time and mathmatics - The Mayans

4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
mmmmm.....Planet X sounds like disinfo to discredit the pole shifts

5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?
A BIG yes. A great read is 'The 13 Illuminati Bloodlines' by Fritz Springmeier

I keep reading, but I'm frustrated that I still don't know what's really happening

Start listening within..your intuition will release your frustrations.

Reunite

11-02-2008, 10:26 PM

There are lots more questions you could have asked :)

A..

Anyone dare to ask more questions while this thread lasts? :original:

Brinty

11-02-2008, 10:43 PM

I used to have difficulty with understanding comments like - "that question is meaningless." As a kid I always used to ask questions because that was how I learned things. As I grew older my questions were more towards clarification of what I understood on a particular topic. From time to time I was told my question had no meaning.

Well hell, I thought it did, otherwise I wouldn't have asked it! :wall::wall: So one day I said to a bloke, "I give up! You explain what a meaningless question is then."

"Okay," he responded, here's a couple, "What colour is a gallon? or, how about the classic one - how long is a piece of string?" :original:

So, the question I'd like to ask is - er, um, it's - oh damn! I've forgotten now. Good grief it was right on the tip of my tongue. I think I'd better go back to bed. :wheelchair:

Visvasa144

11-03-2008, 07:47 AM

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

I can't feel confident that I can answer any of these questions.

I keep reading, but I'm frustrated that I still don't know what's really happening.

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
-We are ascending beings. Their are ascended masters. It's a natural process of human being's spiritual progress though the path is difficult to say the least. It may take many lifetimes if not 1,000's or more to become an ascended master which we all human beings have the potential to become.

Let's just say these these 3 things are givens that are going to happen.
1.Galactic Alignment
2.Nibiru coming into our Solar System, again.:thumb_yello:
3.Age of Aquarius - Procession of equinoxes

So all this is going to happen in the next 4-5 years. It does not mean that you will ascend just because all of these cosmic factors have taken place. if you yourself aren't spiritually prepared then you will be left behind. So if anyone thinks just because all of these 3 things are going to happen and their going to wake up one day with all these spiritual gifts just laid out for them your kidding yourselves.

You reap what you sow.

Let's say your on a basketball team and you've been watching from the bench. You want to play and you think your ready. One day the coach finally calls your number and puts you in the game. Did you do enough to prepare for this important time? Has anyone ever just paid your bills out of the blue. Has anyone just got up and went to work for you? Do you think some being is going to come down from the heavens and save you?

Total Personal Responsibility is paramount in one's own spiritual maturation.

2.Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
-They have been visiting Earth for a long long time. "Appear"? it all depends what perceptional module your using.

3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
-That's what i've been told.

4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
-Nibiru is very real. The Anunnaki exist.

5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?
-Yes

Anchor

11-03-2008, 08:22 AM

Anyone dare to ask more questions while this thread lasts? :original:

Go on try me :)

Merlin

11-04-2008, 08:46 PM

Go on try me :)

Do you think man really landed on the moon?

Reunite

11-04-2008, 09:31 PM

Do you think man really landed on the moon?

Yes but not in 1969 by a space shuttle. Way before via a ufo or jump room.

Reunite

11-04-2008, 09:33 PM

Go on try me :)

Are we living in a simulated reality?

David

11-04-2008, 09:43 PM

I've been reading alternative stuff for two or three years. I feel fairly confident that something special is happening, and I feel confident that main stream media isn't telling the whole truth.

But my understanding of the alternative ideas is very limited. Normally, when you want to evaluate the legitimacy of various claims, you ask for evidence. But evidence isn't, for the most part, available for claims involving the strange ideas of this realm.

So I have to admit that I don't know what's really happening in regards to these alternative claims.

1. Is ascension an actual phenomenon?
2. Are ET ready to appear to the people of this world?
3. Is 2012 the date for a profound change?
4. Is Planet X a crock of manure?
5. Are there a number of very wealthy, powerful people that are working to gain control over our planet?

I can't feel confident that I can answer any of these questions.

I keep reading, but I'm frustrated that I still don't know what's really happening.

Droid, I know exactly where you are coming from. It seems the evidence for all of this is overwhelmingly in favor but on the other hand it does not because of disinformation. I'm green horned noob when it comes our new awakening but one thing I have noticed is that we are not alone. The masses of people on this website is proof to that and I bet there are thousands more who don't even know about this site. We may not all agree on the same ideas and theories but I feel comfortable to say that something big is happening and we are all part of it.

Rareheart

11-04-2008, 11:09 PM

Are we living in a simulated reality?

so to speak...reality is an illusion, of that there is proof.
Neurobiology has proven that every sensation you ever encountered, via "physical" stimulation of neurons, has been a product of electro-chemical reactions in your Mind/Body.
Each of us view the world through individually colored "glasses".
(you don't actually see with your eyes)

:original:

Swanny

11-04-2008, 11:17 PM

Are we living in a simulated reality?

You think that's air your breathing??? :wink2:

Reunite

11-04-2008, 11:25 PM

You think that's air your breathing??? :wink2:

Enriched and garnished with chemtrails....yummy

hold on it's just an illusion..phewww

Rareheart

11-04-2008, 11:42 PM

:original:

Reunite

11-05-2008, 12:01 AM

Alright here is the biggie whoever dares to answer

What is the meaning of life??

2infinityandbeyond

11-05-2008, 12:10 AM

Alright here is the biggie whoever dares to answer

What is the meaning of life??

To exist and eat jaffa cakes

Samarkis

11-05-2008, 01:32 AM

In my Opinion, Our True Purpose in life is to experience ALL. To be an All Knowing God,as an extention of Devine Creator,we must experience every type of experience.This made sense then that there is starvation and war
and all types of negative things as not all souls seem to be as experienced as others(WHY????)Everything seems to be cramming in in these next few years.
(The internet has helped spread knowledge)

It is up to us lightworkers to help lighten the path and to manifest a kinder reality so as to bring as many back to Devine Creator,as gently as possible.

Sometimes, it is better to just wait and watch life unfold,while spreading positive energy into the atmosphere,do your good deeds,spread kindness,spread knowledge. When the time to act is here we will all recognise
what we must do. It is upon us to have patience for the sake of others just beginning to learn these lessons of awakening. Give them the opportunity to learn and make peace with the knowledge. Do what you can with what you have,then intend and manifest and meditate. If you cannot reach thru to someone,just send energy to them that they will gently learn the truths.
Have Patience!!!http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/427503030_d2babd857b.jpg

Reunite

11-05-2008, 02:28 AM

What is the meaning of life??

This is my take on it .

To REMEMBER who we are as a collective consciousness. We came into this life as Gods in amnesia, co-creaters expressing ourselves as interconnected vibrational energy. We came into the game with no memory at all now it's up to us to remember once again the feeling of oneness

Merlin

11-05-2008, 05:23 PM

Alright here is the biggie whoever dares to answer

What is the meaning of life??

Thats easy: 42.

Did'ent you ever watch Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

Ok Ok...

I think Incarnations in this realm are to learn / prepare for a higher state of being.

Merlin.

raulduke

11-05-2008, 05:35 PM

Fantastic Merlin.

I loved that book and the movie too.

DON'T PANIC...and always bring a towel.

I wrote this (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=55021&postcount=17) in a thread awhile ago. Same answer.

So, "what is the meaning of life?" is = "what is 6x7?"

We're getting closer though, I think it has something to do w/ numbers anyway.

BeaTnik-BandiT

11-05-2008, 05:37 PM

the military and police are Americans, and will shove a gun up the hole of any banker that tries to turn them against us...

hehehe :roll1: :roll1::roll1:

tom

11-05-2008, 07:26 PM

Hi Droid56. You seem to be in a bit of a dilemma well maybe i can help but it may only add to your confusion try reading this guy i found him very interesting http://sleeperlou.proboards55 .he also had a thread at ats You can be directed to it via what i have given to you.would be interested to know what you think,be prepared to be blown away.:welcomeani:

tom

11-06-2008, 01:28 AM

Fear is the ultimate weapon,they tell us there is going to be a recession....there is going to be a war ect,ect .and lo and behold it becomes a reality based on our fear.dont you get it we are the creators.AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT!!!!!!?:mfr_omg:

Seva

11-18-2008, 12:02 AM

alright here is the biggie whoever dares to answer

what is the meaning of life??

"42" ;)

Worlds Beyond 2

11-18-2008, 12:40 AM

I had a few personal ideas/theories/beliefs .. but also quite a lot of confusion/missing pieces of puzzle...

but this past few days, I'm personally feeling much clearer ... having been clearly guided by Spirit recent year or two... having also approached/read the Bible (again, guidance from Spirit) ... and also feeling a deep sense of need to give as much unconditional love, light, help, healing and forgiveness as I can to as many people as possible in life ...

and having today listened to Mu2143's audio postings today.. well... it's all starting to make very clear sense now.. to me personally... am feeling very much at peace in myself.. like some straggling pieces of the puzzle finally fit...

peaceful blessings