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[Dantheman62]

I know there are alot of Obama threads but I just recieved this e-mail,...........To Barack Obama,


The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about "race" contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America . While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the greater concern is that you lie d to America on March 14.

In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea without "preparations" at lower levels ... Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin ... while the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered "I would" to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without "any" preconditions. While your judgment about meeting with enemies of the USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America in the debate with McCain.

On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgment about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.

You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately ... not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your judgment about removing our troops unilaterally in 2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.

You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar ... and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the Democrat party and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.

In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a "Captain" of a platoon in Afghanistan "the other day" when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanistan . You lied in that debate.

In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a "professor of Constitutional law" when in fact you have never been a professor of Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you "taught a law class" and never mentioned being a "professor of Constitutional law." You lied last spring.

You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn ... and he was right .... corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel to $6 a bushel for food. You distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe Biden. You lied to America .

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.

You did not take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and Acorn ... who all helped cause the financial problems of today ... and they all made major contributions to your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.

You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and Acorn. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you sponsored as a state senator ... and Acorn has been convicted of voter fraud, real estate sub prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and Acorn and you used Acorn to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your relationships with Rezko and Acorn are of concern, the greater concern is that you omitted important facts about your relationships with them to America .

During your campaign, you said: "typical white person." "They cling to their guns and religion." "They will say that I am black." You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist. You divide America .

You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America , but you forgot to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax reductions. You have requested close to $1 billion in earmarks and several million for Acorn. Your social programs will cost America $1 trillion per year and you claim that a reduction in military spending ($100 billion for Iraq ) can pay for it. While your economic plan of adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of concern, the greater concern is that you are deceiving America .

The drain to America 's economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 billion per year (5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 billion (less than 1% of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last 3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that you have always been for more oil and more nuclear. You are lying to America .

Mr. Obama, you claimed that you "changed" your mind about public financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican PACs in 2004. The truth is that the Democrat PACs in 2004, 2006, and 2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros and MoveOn.org). You are lying to America .

Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers union and college professors in the USA . They eliminated religion from our history. They teach pro gay agendas and discuss sex with students as young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the classrooms. They disparage conservatives. They brainwash our children. They are in it for themselves ..... not America . Are you reluctant to condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute 25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans? You are deceiving America .

Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else.

Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.

1. You lied to America . You lied many times. You distorted facts. You parsed your answers like a lawyer.
2. You distorted the record o f John McCain in your words and in your advertisements.
3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal political gains and then lied about those associations.

4. You divide America about race and about class.
Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and associations to John McCain: War hero. Annapolis graduate with "Country first." Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected presidents of the USA as a Navy officer for 22 years. 26 years in the Senate. Straight talk. Maverick. 54% of the time participated on bills with Democrats. Never asked for an earmark. The only blemish on his record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.

Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School, you learned that the end does not justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty, distortion of truth are never tolerated. Yet, your dishonesty is overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter Libby. You should be ashamed.

Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political issues and vote for America first. It is time for America to vote for honesty.

Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire someone for a job if that someone lied in an interview? Of course not. So why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty? Because some of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their financial security .... and you are preying on their fears with empty promises ... and because some (especially our young people) are consumed by your wonderful style and promises for "change" like the Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in 1932 kept them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you ... your style has camouflaged your dishonesty .... but many of us see you for who you really are ... and we will not stop exposing who you are every day, forever if it is necessary.

Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling dishonesty.
Mr. Obama, America cannot trust that you will put America first in your decisions about the future.
Mr. Obama, you are not the "change" that America deserves. We cannot trust you.
Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander-in-chief.
Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves .... just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon ... Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events ... false witness ... perjury ... your relationships and bad judgments are bad on their own .... but your lies are even worse.

Therefore, by copy of this memo, all who read this memo are asked to send it to everyone else in America before it is too late. We need to do the job that the media will not do. We need to expose your dishonesty so that every person in America understands who you really are before election day.

Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.
Michael Master
McLean, Virginia

[Sarahmay]

Ah, a Robo-email.

Guess you'll be voting for McCain then, Dan?

Peace!

[GoingToFast]

Why is there so many "Obama-Bashing" threads on the Avalon forum. Is this forum filed with Right-wing Neo-Cons, ore what ???!!!!
I have noticed on this forum that when-ever there is a McCain-thread it´s mostly positive and that the Obama-threads are mostly negative.

[Orion Morris]

What is wrong with Bill Ayers?

I am actually more dissapointed in him being associated with Obama than the other way around...

Also it is not that big of a shock to find out a presidential nomanee is lying.

[Asterion]

Ah, a Robo-email.

Guess you'll be voting for McCain then, Dan?

Peace!


Robo-email, right on.

Heheheheheheheh....cannot stop laughing.

You might want to fact check some of them there lies Georgia. Neocons have
spent a TRILLION dollars on this war. Let's see...hmm... what else could we have spent that money on.
Education?....nah who needs that we have TV.
National Health Care?.....no way that's scary Socialism.
I know (raises hand and cries, me, me, me).....how about Green technology and jobs?.....peshaw Global Warming is not man made, that's just a liberal hoax to scare little children.


I wish I could conjure enough energy to counter you point for point in
that abysmal, exaggerated, inflationary letter but it's such a negative black sucking hole, that after reading it I'm gonna need a nap just to regroup.

Peace and Justice for all,

Namaste


You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on
our own point of view. - Obi Wan Kenobi

[Seeker Mom]

Wow, that was quite the e-mail! Bravo for posting that, Dantheman62. :thumb_yello:

I've followed his campaign very closely since the summer of 2007 and still don't know who the man really is. All I know for sure is that he's a liar and very wrong for America. I know that media adores him and covers up any story that would harm him, while endlessly nitpicking every detail concerning McCain and Palin -- along with anyone else who dares to question 'The One.' It's sickening! I plan to vote Republican for the first time in my adult life on Nov. 4th. And I am far from alone.

[GoingToFast]

Wow, that was quite the e-mail! Bravo for posting that, Dantheman62. :thumb_yello:

I've followed his campaign very closely since the summer of 2007 and still don't know who the man really is. All I know for sure is that he's a liar and very wrong for America. I know that media adores him and covers up any story that would harm him, while endlessly nitpicking every detail concerning McCain and Palin -- along with anyone else who dares to question 'The One.' It's sickening! I plan to vote Republican for the first time in my adult life on Nov. 4th. And I am far from alone.


Seeker Mom, why is Obama wrong for America and what really are his lies .

[Sarahmay]

Seeker Mom, why is Obama wrong for America and what really are his lies .

Because she was a Hillary supporter.

[GoingToFast]

because she was a hillary supporter.

bullseye.

[Orion11]

lol

ppl are so blind it makes my stomach hurt.

[WineHippie]

*

[Orion11]

hahaha, thats one reason. ;)

[conjuredUp]

I'll be writing myself in.
I am running on the love ticket.

[Jenny]

Moved thread to Off Topic like all Obama political/election threads.

:original:

[clarkkent]

Why is there so many "Obama-Bashing" threads on the Avalon forum. Is this forum filed with Right-wing Neo-Cons, ore what ???!!!!
I have noticed on this forum that when-ever there is a McCain-thread it´s mostly positive and that the Obama-threads are mostly negative.

agreed , avalon has a whole lot of right wing bible thumping going on.

ive noticed the "fringe" brings together the radical left and the radical right--frankly the religious conservative biblical stuff has really turned me off avalon.
too much "endtimes" and "obama is the devil" feels like im in a narrow minded church in middle america.

many of the sensible people have left this forum and it shows.

ps- i would think people reading this forum would be bright enough to understand that the events set in motion are going to happen no matter who's in the whitehouse--the left right paradigm exists to give us the illusion of choice, when the reality is its the same fascist corporate occulties run the show regardless.

lets see if we can stop making "anti obama" threads and move beyond the paradigm thats enslaved most minds on the planet.

[borrasca2012]

....... ARNOLD for president !!!!!!!!


or PARIS HILTON !!!!!!!!!:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

[Orion11]

agreed , avalon has a whole lot of right wing bible thumping going on.

ive noticed the "fringe" brings together the radical left and the radical right--frankly the religious conservative biblical stuff has really turned me off avalon.
too much "endtimes" and "obama is the devil" feels like im in a narrow minded church in middle america.

many of the sensible people have left this forum and it shows.

ps- i would think people reading this forum would be bright enough to understand that the events set in motion are going to happen no matter who's in the whitehouse--the left right paradigm exists to give us the illusion of choice, when the reality is its the same fascist corporate occulties run the show regardless.

lets see if we can stop making "anti obama" threads and move beyond the paradigm thats enslaved most minds on the planet.

thank you clark. :wub2:

all of this stuff,
it speaks volumes, really.

sad.

[Dantheman62]

Wow dudes and dudettes, what comments!, I just put it up, I didn't create it. I'm not going to vote myself because there's nobody to vote for! IMO, I don't think either one will be able to make a difference!P.S.,Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player, at least it wasn't about the bible or chem trails!

[Frank Samuel]

I'm sure the fine print said please vote for McCain, please !!!
Amheiser Busch , Cindy McCain's inherited business sold for 1billion dollars to Belgium. So much for keeping americans jobs. For most politicians the almighty dollar is the order of the day.So what else is new, irregardless I will be glad to see the most coruptible adminitration in history voted off the white house. Good bye Chenney, good bye Bush, don't let the door slam behind you.It will be an understatement to say that these two jokers made billions at the expense of the lives of so many innocent people. I don't care much for politics but I don't care much for the present administration either.:tongue2::naughty::mfr_lol:

[Myra]

agreed , avalon has a whole lot of right wing bible thumping going on.

ive noticed the "fringe" brings together the radical left and the radical right--frankly the religious conservative biblical stuff has really turned me off avalon.
too much "endtimes" and "obama is the devil" feels like im in a narrow minded church in middle america.

many of the sensible people have left this forum and it shows.

ps- i would think people reading this forum would be bright enough to understand that the events set in motion are going to happen no matter who's in the whitehouse--the left right paradigm exists to give us the illusion of choice, when the reality is its the same fascist corporate occulties run the show regardless.

lets see if we can stop making "anti obama" threads and move beyond the paradigm thats enslaved most minds on the planet.

Right On Clark!:thumb_yello:

[Darkfang34]

Screw em both vote third party don't advocate the lesser evils. Don't support there selection that they handed us. Only 16% of Americans vote because they truly believe in the current runner, that means the rest that vote are just voting on lesser evil or have no idea who the runners are to begin with...

Vote third party!
Vote third party!!
Vote third party!!!

Peace N Love
-Brother Nate (Vote Chuck Baldwin)
myspace.com/satanslibrary

[Humble Janitor]

Dude,

These threads are getting old. Let's talk about something else.

[Dantheman62]

Again!, I just put it up, I didn't create it!, On the other hand if it's true than people need to know! It's better than bible thumping and chem trail ****!

[mntruthseeker]

Obama lies as well as the rest of them. Yes, the talk is getting old, but we NEED to talk about it.

The dude is ok in bringing it up:naughty:

[Humble Janitor]

Again!, I just put it up, I didn't create it!, On the other hand if it's true than people need to know! It's better than bible thumping and chem trail ****!

There are a million threads on Obama already.

The Ayers stuff has been shown constantly to be false. Watching people continue to try and make that connection, DESPITE evidence to the contrary can be conveyed by this emoticon: :wall:

[Humble Janitor]

Obama lies as well as the rest of them. Yes, the talk is getting old, but we NEED to talk about it.

The dude is ok in bringing it up:naughty:

Why aren't you spending an equal amount of time on documenting McCain's background? Are you a McCain supporter? If not, we need to see both sides of the coin here.

[Dantheman62]

I support no one but myself! just passing info along and if I find anything on McCain than I will pass it on!

[Humble Janitor]

I support no one but myself! just passing info along and if I find anything om McCain than I will pass it on!

Then why didn't you just pick an existing Obama thread and put it in there?

[Dantheman62]

Whatever, trust me it'll never happen again. I'm smart and learn from my mistakes! Vote Obama, I don't care.

[Orion11]

LOL,

either way, you rock Dan,

ya always make me chuckle. lol :D

but i agree, lets fling the poo equally.

as both are a joke. lol

i do love your responses tho Dan, haha :)

[Dantheman62]

Thanks O, you're a breath of fresh air in the stagnant fog of life!... I'm gonna vote Homer Simpson!...Doh

[Humble Janitor]

Whatever, trust me it'll never happen again. I'm smart and learn from my mistakes! Vote Obama, I don't care.

It's all good either way.

My view is that when people post or forward emails such as this, they are supporting the spread of disinformation. I refuse to forward emails and I have asked relatives and friends to stop sending me such emails because they insult my intelligence and many of them have already been discussed and either verified or disproved at snopes.

[mntruthseeker]

End of Times...............you can't be serious.....no connection between Bill Ayers and Barack What the hell you smoking?

Yes they are connected. And I too am disapointed that Bill associated himself with Barack

I would gladly have Bill and his wife at my home for dinner.

We need someone like him running for president. I would even vote for the Revern Jeriamiah Wright! Bless his heart.

I know he isn't an illuminati's Jesse Jackson is, an illuminati himself...... Look him up..................13 Bloodlines..... study it

Another thing..............almost all the sons are adopted out so people do not pick up on their cover
McCain has an agenda.................we all know it bush III
Pray for America

[Metaphor]

You can take your candidates and put them where they ******* belong!!!
Why the hell do you even care about your system of chosing one of two illuminati members bashing each other. Do you really think its going to make a difference?

You are not even presented with any real democratic choice in the USA, nor are we in europe or the rest of the world for that matter. Its just one big show, why even bother? To turn your backs on this pathetic charade is the only answer!!!

Its not like you are chosing between a man of the people (that is the illusion sold to some of the Obama fans) or the corporate ******* (or something ). Its NOT going to give you any difference AT ALL.
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO GET?
We are all getting so very screwed so very deeeeep in our very arses that its not of any importance if the warden of our prison is a this or that.

Drop this obama vs. Satan himself thinking. You are just as fooled as the rest of the world. We who have been suffering from American imperialism are just very fed up with this. Or at least I am.
You are really naive if you think that Obama or Mccain is going to make a difference to the starving masses in third world countries.
The Illuminati agenda is beyond that. The train doesn´t care who drives the train when it leaves, it just knows the wheels are turning.

[Humble Janitor]

You can take your candidates and put them where they ******* belong!!!
Why the hell do you even care about your system of chosing one of two illuminati members bashing each other. Do you really think its going to make a difference?

You are not even presented with any real democratic choice in the USA, nor are we in europe or the rest of the world for that matter. Its just one big show, why even bother? To turn your backs on this pathetic charade is the only answer!!!

Its not like you are chosing between a man of the people (that is the illusion sold to some of the Obama fans) or the corporate ******* (or something ). Its NOT going to give you any difference AT ALL.
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO GET?
We are all getting so very screwed so very deeeeep in our very arses that its not of any importance if the warden of our prison is a this or that.

Drop this obama vs. Satan himself thinking. You are just as fooled as the rest of the world. We who have been suffering from American imperialism are just very fed up with this. Or at least I am.
You are really naive if you think that Obama or Mccain is going to make a difference to the starving masses in third world countries.
The Illuminati agenda is beyond that. The train doesn´t care who drives the train when it leaves, it just knows the wheels are turning.

Aren't you equally naive for believing so much in the Illuminati? How do we know that all this information about the Illuminati isn't also disinformation to get us all riled up?

[mntruthseeker]

bill ayers and obama connection is a lie now

OMG end of times, you really are bambozeled

they sat on three boards together. They go back alot further than you know. You need to take the blinders off and stop assuming you know the man.

Like it was written so many times. he is a liar just like McCain, Bush,Cheney and so on

Ayers speaks the truth........too bad that feature didnt rub off on obama.

So what do you think of Larry Sinclair? Is he a liar? NO:sad:

[mntruthseeker]

The Illuminati's go way back in history...and Oh yes, its real for sure. I know that they are pure evil. I know they have my name and I know I Dont care!

Naive is to assume and what I have seen and read on them is not an assumption.

Illuminati-satan. No, its not written just to throw anybody off. It's real and it's pure EVIL


Oh no way would I vote for McCain or Obama.

What makes you think these nominees are any different from the past

Like I wrote before..............the only two presidents that didn't follow the rules were killed.

if you like, I can send you video after video with actual people talking about the new world order.

I am voting for Cynthia McKinney

[Lotus]

I too have noticed a distinct right-wing tinge to topics on Camelot and Avalon. I guess it goes with the end of times, fear-based scenario.

Anyone wishing to learn more about McCain's dubious antics should check out the latest Rolling Stone. A major expose on his ineptitude in the Navy, crashing planes, womanizing, questionable morality, illegal activities, self-serving agenda etc. Quite illuminating.

At least the mud slinging should end by next Wednesday!:wink2:

[Lotus]

For those interested here's the RS McCain link....

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print

[Dantheman62]

Hey Lotus quit hijacking my thread!,HaHa, just kidding, I don't care what anybody does here, I'm easy LOL! Have fun that's my motto!

[Humble Janitor]

bill ayers and obama connection is a lie now

OMG end of times, you really are bambozeled

they sat on three boards together. They go back alot further than you know. You need to take the blinders off and stop assuming you know the man.

Like it was written so many times. he is a liar just like McCain, Bush,Cheney and so on

Ayers speaks the truth........too bad that feature didnt rub off on obama.

So what do you think of Larry Sinclair? Is he a liar? NO:sad:

As you've shown, you won't stop with the squawking about Bill Ayers. This issue is no longer worth discussing if you can't get over the Ayers issue. It's apparent that the media has done its' job when it created the amnesia that magically made people forget about William Ayers up until this point, even as Obama himself disproved the claims of "palling around with a terrorist". Time has forgiven William Ayers and so have I. I wish others had the strength to forgive him too and to move on.

[Humble Janitor]

I too have noticed a distinct right-wing tinge to topics on Camelot and Avalon. I guess it goes with the end of times, fear-based scenario.

Anyone wishing to learn more about McCain's dubious antics should check out the latest Rolling Stone. A major expose on his ineptitude in the Navy, crashing planes, womanizing, questionable morality, illegal activities, self-serving agenda etc. Quite illuminating.

At least the mud slinging should end by next Wednesday!:wink2:

That article is well-written and exposes the maverick myth.

[KathyT]

For 15 years I served on employment oral panel boards and hired people for my department. You learn to judge people on their skills, talents, and ability to do the job.

I would never hire a 72 year old anybody to run a huge organization if I owned that organization. I also wouldn't hire Sarah Palin either.

But I would hire either Barak Obama or Joe Biden.

This won't be the first time that I'm not voting for my party's candidate.

[Dantheman62]

Wow you're tough!, You said you hire people based on their skills, talents, and ability, but you don't think McCain has more skills and talents than Obama? Biden is an a....hole, but I do agree with you on Palin, she's a secretary trying to be more, I mean anybody could be mayor of that podunk town in Alaska. McCain's downfall can be attributed to her for sure! Saying you wouldn't hire a 72 year old is alittle biased though!...P.S. I need a job are you hiring? Ha, not.:mfr_lol:

[Humble Janitor]

Wow you're tough!, You said you hire people based on their skills, talents, and ability, but you don't think McCain has more skills and talents than Obama? Biden is an a....hole, but I do agree with you on Palin, she's a secretary trying to be more, I mean anybody could be mayor of that podunk town in Alaska. McCain's downfall can be attributed to her for sure! Saying you wouldn't hire a 72 year old is alittle biased though!...P.S. I need a job are you hiring? Ha, not.:mfr_lol:

I'll hire you if I ever need to dig up dirt on a candidate. :thumb_yello:

[raulduke]

Why is there so many "Obama-Bashing" threads on the Avalon forum. Is this forum filed with Right-wing Neo-Cons, ore what ???!!!!
I have noticed on this forum that when-ever there is a McCain-thread it´s mostly positive and that the Obama-threads are mostly negative.

I think the reason that there is more "Obama bashing" here is because we understand that the chance of a McCain supporter actually dropping by PA is very slim (other than lurkers maybe).

Watch.

McCain Supporters: Show Yourselves! I command you in the name of Ronald Wilson Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush. Haha.

Allright let's see if that works.

Anyway, I think we realise that Obama appeals much more to our family here at PA, and we are just asking that you scrutinize his "focused grouped" image
just as thoroughly as you did McCain's.

They know what you want to hear, and they have no problem saying it to you w/ a big sh*t eating grin on their face and their long cold fingers crossed behind their back.

Because after all, what do they want from you?

Not your vote, that doesn't matter.

They want your faith.

P.S. left/right wingers please try to get past cable media news/perceptions/pundits, so we can have productive dialogue.

[Humble Janitor]

I'm not an automaton and I am not leaving this site. Nice try.

[raulduke]

For reference to what End_Times has posted I'll post my original P.S. here which read:

P.S. left/right wing automatons please try to get past cable media news/perceptions/pundits, so we can have productive dialogue, or perhaps consider making your egress fom PA.

I am sorry that anyone read this, as it is not really the way I feel. I apologize.
I edited it as soon as I reread it after posting it. I know, I should really wait a bit before posting anything, but I'm a mystery to myself sometimes.
I realise that this forum is great because of all of its members and not despite any of them.
I'm glad there opposing viewpoints here, I just get frustrated debating the same bollocks over and over and getting nowhere, but that's my problem.

In summation, I'm glad that there is an edit option which I will now use again on my last post as I have noticed that I spell as well as I deal w/ frustration.:lol3:

My apologies once again to any Obama or McCain(show yourselves!) supporters.

peace.

[Sarahmay]

Yeah, I'll come out. I'm an Obama supporter. Until the system in this country collapses, and it has not as of this writing, I will participate in a meaningful way. Not by a third party write in vote that means nothing, but in a way that actually will affect the direction of the country. Not the huge changes that some people on this board want, where everything is destroyed then rebuilt in a Utopian way, but in a way of using this developed nation for good instead of warmongering.

Every human has a spark of the divine, McCain and Obama included. For me, Obama's spark is a little brighter. Nothing is perfect in this country or this planet by design--we live in 3rd density polarity. As long as we remain in 3d, will always have disagreements, war, disease, poverty. Free will allows us to choose good or evil, and each of us define what is "good" to us. I respect others' choices that are different, but I will point out lies and disinformation when I see them.

Louise Hay's words always work for me: That may be true for you, but it is not true for me.

[Esther]

Unbelievable the things people say. The New York Times has endorsed Obama for president. I have a relative who went to college with him.

Please try to see beyond the press and guess the potential of what this man could do.

In any case, Universe has plans for us whether we like them or not.

[Jonah]

Im voting for McCain for 2 reasons.

1. His wife is pretty hot for an ancient pliedian!

2. The PTB want Obama to win.

Lets throw in a monkey wrench for crying out loud.

[Sarahmay]

Im voting for McCain for 2 reasons.

1. His wife is pretty hot for an ancient pliedian!

2. The PTB want Obama to win.

Lets throw in a monkey wrench for crying out loud.

Appreciate your honesty! But, since you live in California, no monkey wrench from you. If you lived in Ohio....

[Jonah]

Even if I did live in Ohio....

It wouldn't matter.

But Obama will get the ball rolling (Down the hill of Armageddon) so to speak.

Which is what will help wake up a lot of people.

Would be nice if we could avoid the violence that is sure to come.

[Dantheman62]

I don't think violence is sure to come anywhere!, geez, can you say doom and gloom!

[quest]

haven't red all the articles, but hey, could it be truth?

Attack on Syria by Blackwater because of Secret meeting between Obama and Ahmadinejad

http://www.cherada.com/articulos/attack-on-syria-by-blackwater-because-of-secret-meeting-between-obama-and-ahmadinejad

During visit to Hawaii Obama met with Ahmadinejad

http://www.cherada.com/articulos/during-visit-to-hawaii-obama-met-with-ahmadinejad

Obama Summoned To US Military Stronghold In Hawaii By Top Generals

http://www.trippingelsalvador.com/pages/obama-summoned-to-us-military-stronghold-in-hawaii-by-top-generals

Top US Generals Flee To EU And Russia In Last Attempt To Stop World War

http://www.trippingelsalvador.com/pages/top-us-generals-flee-to-eu-and-russia-in-last-attempt-to-stop-world-war

Israel To Fall As US Says This Will Be Their 'Last President'

http://www.trippingelsalvador.com/pages/israel-to-fall-as-us-says-this-will-be-their-last-president

[mntruthseeker]

http://www.robodoon.com/zbigniew_brzezinski.htm


McCain of course is just another Bush


the worse of the two evils

[Humble Janitor]

I don't think violence is sure to come anywhere!, geez, can you say doom and gloom!

Only if we make it so.

As for the guy who openly admitted voting for McCain, how do you know that the PTB don't also want McCain to win? He's got the temper of a reptilian.

[Humble Janitor]

Unbelievable the things people say. The New York Times has endorsed Obama for president. I have a relative who went to college with him.

Please try to see beyond the press and guess the potential of what this man could do.

In any case, Universe has plans for us whether we like them or not.

He can do no worse than McCain in my opinion. McCain is so hot-tempered, it wouldn't be long before he'd start WWIII just by opening his mouth. Heh.

Regardless, you are correct. The universe has grander plans for us and we are just silly pawns in the universal chess game.

[goody8504]

if so, good for him. i can't help but laugh when people say iran is actually a threat. first of all, if they want to develop nuclear weapons (which i don't believe they have any intentions of doing. that part of history is over) then more power to them. every country has that right.

secondly, even if they do acquire WMDs, it's not as though they will actually use them against the US. any country realizes that this sort of attack against the US is suicide. we would blow them out of the water and completely destroy their entire country. no country is that stupid.

finally, the idea that we shouldn't talk with 'enemies' (again, iran is not our enemy) is living in a fantasy world. does the phrase 'keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer' ring a bell?

[Orion11]

:sleep_1:

[raulduke]

The universe has grander plans for us and we are just silly pawns in the universal chess game.

Chin up brother.

We humans are more capable than I could ever imagine.

We'll figure it out soon enough.

Hopefully just before the shtf.:original:

[Magii]

Is Barack Obama the “promised warrior” coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?

By Amir Taheri

The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a “tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.” Commanding “the strongest army on earth,” the new ruler in the West will carry “a clear sign” from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.”

In a curious coincidence Obama’s first and second names–Barack Hussein–mean “the blessing of Hussein” in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means “he is with us,” the magic formula in Majlisi’s tradition.

Mystical reasons aside, the Khomeinist establishment sees Obama’s rise as another sign of the West’s decline and the triumph of Islam. Obama’s promise to seek unconditional talks with the Islamic Republic is cited as a sign that the U.S. is ready to admit defeat. Obama’s position could mean abandoning three resolutions passed by the United Nations Security Council setting conditions that Iran should meet to avoid sanctions. Seeking unconditional talks with the Khomeinists also means an admission of moral equivalence between the U.S. and the Islamic Republic. It would imply an end to the description by the U.S. of the regime as a “systematic violator of human rights.”

Obama has abandoned claims by all U.S. administrations in the past 30 years that Iran is “a state sponsor of terrorism.” Instead, he uses the term “violent groups” to describe Iran-financed outfits such as Hamas and Hezbollah.

Obama has also promised to attend a summit of the Organization of the Islamic Conference within the first 100 days of his presidency. Such a move would please the mullahs, who have always demanded that Islam be treated differently, and that Muslim nations act as a bloc in dealings with Infidel nations.

Obama’s election would boost President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s chances of winning a second term next June. Ahmadinejad’s entourage claim that his “steadfastness in resisting the American Great Satan” was a factor in helping Obama defeat “hardliners” such as Hillary Clinton and, later, it hopes, John McCain.

“President Ahmadinejad has taught Americans a lesson,” says Hassan Abbasi, a “strategic adviser” to the Iranian president. “This is why they are now choosing someone who understands Iran’s power.” The Iranian leader’s entourage also point out that Obama copied his campaign slogan “Yes, We Can” from Ahmadinejad’s “We Can,” used four years ago.

A number of Khomeinist officials have indicated their preference for Obama over McCain, who is regarded as an “enemy of Islam.” A Foreign Ministry spokesman says Iran does not wish to dictate the choice of the Americans but finds Obama “a better choice for everyone.” Ali Larijani, Speaker of the Islamic Majlis, Iran’s ersatz parliament, has gone further by saying the Islamic Republic “prefers to see Barack Obama in the White House” next year.

Tehran’s penchant for Obama, reflected in the official media, increased when the Illinois senator chose Joseph Biden as his vice-presidential running mate. Biden was an early supporter of the Khomeinist revolution in 1978-1979 and, for the past 30 years, has been a consistent advocate of recognizing the Islamic Republic as a regional power. He has close ties with Khomeinist lobbyists in the U.S. and has always voted against sanctions on Iran.

Ahmadinejad has described the U.S. as a “sunset” (ofuli) power as opposed to Islam, which he says is a “sunrise” (toluee) power. Last summer, he inaugurated an international conference called World Without America–attended by anti-Americans from all over the world, including the U.S.

Seen from Tehran, Obama’s election would demoralize the U.S. armed forces by casting doubt on their victories in Iraq and Afghanistan, if not actually transforming them into defeat. American retreat from the Middle East under Obama would enable the Islamic Republic to pursue hegemony of the region. Tehran is especially interested in dominating Iraq, thus consolidating a new position that extends its power to the Mediterranean through Syria and Lebanon.

During the World Without America conference, several speakers speculated that Obama would show “understanding of Muslim grievances” with regard to Palestine. Ahmadinejad hopes to persuade a future President Obama to adopt the “Iranian solution for Palestine,” which aims at creating a single state in which Jews would quickly become a minority.

Judging by anecdotal evidence and the buzz among Iranian bloggers, while the ruling Khomeinists favor Obama, the mass of Iranians regard (and dislike) the Democrat candidate as an appeaser of the mullahs. Iran, along with Israel, is the only country in the Middle East where the United States remains popular. An Obama presidency, perceived as friendly to the oppressive regime in Tehran, may change that.

(LINK to Forbes.com Amir Taheri is the author of 10 books on Iran, the Middle East and Islam. His new book The Persian Night: Iran Under the Khomeinist Revolution will be published by Encounter Books in November.)


Here u go .. this goes good with that info ..

I ponder how many now are gonna believe it .. !! (me thinks its all disinfo)

[Humble Janitor]

http://www.robodoon.com/zbigniew_brzezinski.htm


McCain of course is just another Bush


the worse of the two evils

Your Obama posts/threads are nothing but a broken record.

[Humble Janitor]

Chin up brother.

We humans are more capable than I could ever imagine.

We'll figure it out soon enough.

Hopefully just before the shtf.:original:

Oh I have enough hope that we can survive. Not to get my hopes up too high but after I read that pole shift document, I think that I'm better off staying here in VT, possibly hiding in a remote location. I can think of quite a few places that would be ideal for that.

[Jonah]

Im sorry if you take my opinion as doom and gloom.

You will surely be fearful in the coming days, if you let a few words affect you so.

There is going to be a period of chaos whether you like it or not. It is something I hope you will come to understand.

It amazes me to see the people participating on this forum that still don't get the message.

[mntruthseeker]

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/nc-election-2008-barack-obama-ineligible-legal-notice-nc-governor-nc-attorney-general-nc-secretary-of-state-nc-board-of-elections-nc-electoral-college-electors-barack-obama-must-be-removed-fro/


me thinks this is really just a dream.........now if they take mccain off also we can all dream

[mntruthseeker]

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/nc-election-2008-barack-obama-ineligible-legal-notice-nc-governor-nc-attorney-general-nc-secretary-of-state-nc-board-of-elections-nc-electoral-college-electors-barack-obama-must-be-removed-fro/

[Hypnotize]

probably just the first step to get hilary back on tha ballot.

[NeoEmc2]

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/nc-election-2008-barack-obama-ineligible-legal-notice-nc-governor-nc-attorney-general-nc-secretary-of-state-nc-board-of-elections-nc-electoral-college-electors-barack-obama-must-be-removed-fro/

Why do people post this ****? It's not even something official.

[sebring1963]

illustrates how deep racist lawyers will go

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk

[Seeker Mom]

Questioning whether or not Obama is eligible to be president does not make someone racist. If McCain had sealed all his college records and his birth certificate people would be screaming from the rafters that he was ineligible.

The hypocrisy of this campaign will haunt the US for many years to come.

It doesn't matter now anyway. He's going to be on the ballot in all 50 states and the voters will soon have their say. Heck, even Mickey Mouse and Spongebob Squarpants had their say in Ohio. :lol3:

[Tara]

If you think it's disinformation, why do you post it?? Amir Taheri has a history of writing false stories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri

[sebring1963]

Since "pedigree" seems to be so important here ya go...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vsiADdmoh3E

[goody8504]

here's the deal. if obama is truly not eligible to be president....WE WOULD NOT STILL BE BRINGING THIS UP LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION

if there was any truth to this, he would have been removed from the race looong ago

[Magii]

If you think it's disinformation, why do you post it?? Amir Taheri has a history of writing false stories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taheri


Why not ? 99.99999% of the posts are Disinfo on here?!

Duh?

Where u been?

[mntruthseeker]

It shows that he really does want peace

I dont see Iran as a threat either. Just because bush says so. I have to :zip:my mouth right now to be nice about how I feel about bush

I want peace and if this is it Thank God

[Tara]

Maybe your post is an attempt at distraction. That is how the PTB play it. Say hi to Rush and Sean for me.:tongue2:

[Shadowstalker]

here's the deal. if obama is truly not eligible to be president....WE WOULD NOT STILL BE BRINGING THIS UP LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION

if there was any truth to this, he would have been removed from the race looong ago
Not necessarily, they can do what they need to do at anytime.

Interesting how things go aint it?

[Magii]

Maybe your post is an attempt at distraction. That is how the PTB play it. Say hi to Rush and Sean for me.:tongue2:

Tara .. u starting to believe what i said in another post now?

or are u gonna follow the group think program!

[Waterman]

This year, Zbig is back, running foreign policy for Hussein. Indeed, remember Mark, son of Zbig? Mark was one of the sons to whom Zbig dedicated his book "Between Two Ages" in 1970. Mark is all grown up now and shaving. Can you imagine? Mark is foreign policy adviser to Senator Hussein. So who is foreign policy adviser to Senator McCain this year? The envelope please! El Senador Juan McCain’s foreign policy adviser this year is Ian Brzezinski, the other Zbigniew son.

Notice that our Communist media say nothing about this. They understand perfectly well that if they sass David Rockefeller they could lose their jobs. So they specialize in arguing about lesser fry. So, sure, vote next week, but do so with the assurance that it makes no difference; that the conspiracy for world government has already chosen our next President. He is Rockefeller prime minister and Marxist Zbigniew Brzezins.

Source: http://www.infowars.com/?p=5643

[Dantheman62]

Oh I get the message loud and clear! but I fear nothing and will fear nothing ever! I stand on my own two feet and follow no one! I am a surviver and will survive and have all capabilities to do so! When you say violence is sure to come, that's a pretty bold statement and I wish I knew as much as you do! Chaos huh, bring it on, violence, bring it on! You have no idea how ready or capable I am or really how much I do understand about things. So don't include me in your amazement of people in this forum.P.S. When people start running scared, my door will be open for all that want to survive. Sorry for my bluntness but I am a very strong willed person and won't bow down to anyone or any condition.

[Tara]

Why not ? 99.99999% of the posts are Disinfo on here?!

Duh?

Where u been?


I don't think it's 99.999999%. There is some good resource/news info on this site. I do think certain people are posting stuff just to get out their agenda, or to distract, or because they are bored and they want to stir stuff up. Why not just state their opinion and get it over with instead of piece mailing us a bunch of disinformation. You know who you are.

Oh yeah. I've been here, weeding thru this stuff trying to find good info. Duh yourself.

[Suriel]

That's odd. Because the Obama Campaign has been calling my house everyday here in North Carolina. :)

[Waterman]

This year, Zbig is back, running foreign policy for Hussein. Indeed, remember Mark, son of Zbig? Mark was one of the sons to whom Zbig dedicated Between Two Ages in 1970. Mark is all grown up now and shaving. Can you imagine? Mark is foreign policy adviser to Senator Hussein. So who is foreign policy adviser to Senator McCain this year? The envelope please! El Senador Juan McCain’s foreign policy adviser this year is Ian Brzezinski, the other Zbigniew son.

Notice that our Communist media say nothing about this. They understand perfectly well that if they sass David Rockefeller they could lose their jobs. So they specialize in arguing about lesser fry. So, sure, vote next week, but do so with the assurance that it makes no difference; that the conspiracy for world government has already chosen our next President. He is Rockefeller prime minister and Marxist Zbigniew Brzezins.

Source: http://www.infowars.com/?p=5643

[GoingToFast]

This is ridiculous, the Democratic-party would newer-ewer nominate Barack Obama if they didn't know with absolute certainty that he was an American citizen, they know EVERYTHING about him and he would not be a nominee if he wasn't an American citizen. All this Obama-threads are hilariously ridiculous, one is crazier then the other.

[Myra]

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/nc-election-2008-barack-obama-ineligible-legal-notice-nc-governor-nc-attorney-general-nc-secretary-of-state-nc-board-of-elections-nc-electoral-college-electors-barack-obama-must-be-removed-fro/


me thinks this is really just a dream.........now if they take mccain off also we can all dream

:nono: No offense to the OP, but this is total BS. They reference the Berg lawsuit which has not yet been determined by any judge. The NC governor cannot arbitrarily remove a candidate just because he or she thinks that an undetermined private lawsuit has merit.

They can try, but it won't fly.

[GoingToFast]

At the wery moment I am writing this there is FOUR Obama-Threads on the New-Post list, and three of them are "Obama-bashing", I´m getting sick and tired of this forum with all it´so called enlightened people, I have newer seen so many DUM-ASSES in one place at the same time.

[Orion11]

joke.

this whole site is becoming one massive joke.

a few see it, thankfully.

Peace!

[Orion11]

:sleep_1::sleep_1::sleep_1:

like i said in another post, many ppl make this site into a joke.

think or something already.

[Elephant Man]

At the wery moment I am writing this there is FOUR Obama-Threads on the New-Post list, and three of them are "Obama-bashing", I´m getting sick and tired of this forum with all it´so called enlightened people, I have newer seen so many DUM-ASSES in one place at the same time.

agree. why not just remove this political nonsense. Avalon was not intended to discuss politics. There are millions of forums out there for that theatrical rubbish.

peace

[Steve_A]

Hi mntruthseeker,

First of all I need to say that I don't really care who will be elected next week, I don't even have the right to manifest my political view on the US as I'm not even American.

However I think at this stage we wil find how dirty politics can get. We see that Obama is ahead in the polls, we see that in terms of policy, McCain is not, or does not appear to be the chosen one (although that will be decided in the election) so secret recordings and texts taken out of context are being presented and even lies being told to try and get the swing voters over to the other side.

I was repulsed by Fox News this morning because they spent most of the morning slagging off Obama. I really don't see the point of Fox doing that as they are seen to be right wing for the popular classes (lower rate of intelect) and on the whole the left wing won't even go near them, so they are trying to sell ice to an Eskimo.

You can be sure, as the time gets nearer, the desperation and inuendos will get worse, even down to a repeat of the 'hanging chads' routine. It seems par for American politics.

that's what makes the US great. :D

Best regards,

Steve




http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/nc-election-2008-barack-obama-ineligible-legal-notice-nc-governor-nc-attorney-general-nc-secretary-of-state-nc-board-of-elections-nc-electoral-college-electors-barack-obama-must-be-removed-fro/


me thinks this is really just a dream.........now if they take mccain off also we can all dream

[mntruthseeker]

http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/so-what-does-the-obama-logo-mean-anyway/


This is so that there is no doubt in anybodys mind of what Obama represents more than anything

[Lotus]

What is happening to this site?

Where are the moderators?

How can this **** be posted?

It's getting to be a joke!

Wake up!!!!

It's turning into the David Icke forum!:mfr_omg:

[Orion11]

wow man, the content of your posts speak volumes.

seriously.

way to go buddy.

nice job in helping to make this site into one of the biggest jokes on the internet.

[Seth Haniel]

looks like the flouride stripes in toothpaste -
subliminal -
all brush your teeth and lose your third eye

[Orion11]

What is happening to this site?

Where are the moderators?

How can this **** be posted?

It's getting to be a joke!

Wake up!!!!

It's turning into the David Icke forum!:mfr_omg:

exactly, thank you.

its gone a bit further than a joke, really..

never thought Id say it, but this place is absolutely pathetic now. :thumbdown:

[GoingToFast]

http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/so-what-does-the-obama-logo-mean-anyway/


This is so that there is no doubt in anybodys mind of what Obama represents more than anything

mntruthseeker are you on a mission ore what, as I see it you are driving a hate campaign against Barack Obama and I don't find it to be in line with the Avalon guidelines, hope you get banned.

[Orion11]

especially not going to run and hide in a hole cuz we read some BS website created by some other "genius" in cyberspace, Please.


think for yourselves or something, its a good thing, try it.

[Suriel]

We are all puppets to some degree. That reminds me... I have to go pay my bills. :)

[Orion11]

got a mirror mnttruthseeker?

should use it, and work on the only puppet you can change.

[GoingToFast]

In the link you have provide there is a comparison between the Obama campaign-logo and some Stewart Swerdlow archetype but there isn´t a picture of the "swerdlow-archetype" only the campaign-logo, that is nothing but lies and slander .

[feeler]

Does anyone here recognize that 9/11 was a false flag operation?

Do you recognize that the anthrax letters were intended to antagonize the Muslim?

The Muslims are not as crazy as our government would lead us to believe.

They understand the consequence of mutually assured destruction. Balance of power is necessary in the Middle East as in anywhere else.

http://www.albionmonitor.com/0208a/anthraxletter.gif

- feeler

[sebring1963]

In the link you have provide there is a comparison between the Obama campaign-logo and some Stewart Swerdlow archetype but there isn´t a picture of the "swerdlow-archetype" only the campaign-logo, that is nothing but lies and slander .

it doesn't matter.... I pointed out the issues when mntruthseeker used Faux News as a compass for his/her truths and 4 more separate threads get generated

[joet1980]

At the wery moment I am writing this there is FOUR Obama-Threads on the New-Post list, and three of them are "Obama-bashing", I´m getting sick and tired of this forum with all it´so called enlightened people, I have newer seen so many DUM-ASSES in one place at the same time.



I KNOW you are not implying people are dumb for not supporting Obama. :mfr_lol:

[joet1980]

Questioning whether or not Obama is eligible to be president does not make someone racist. If McCain had sealed all his college records and his birth certificate people would be screaming from the rafters that he was ineligible.

The hypocrisy of this campaign will haunt the US for many years to come.

It doesn't matter now anyway. He's going to be on the ballot in all 50 states and the voters will soon have their say. Heck, even Mickey Mouse and Spongebob Squarpants had their say in Ohio. :lol3:


Thanks for some truth in this sea of lies that is Obama.

[Steve_A]

Hi GoingToFast,

I too noticed quite a few Obama threads. I merged them all together so that they can all be found in the same place. :)

The next thread to be merged will be this one. :D

Best regards,

Steve


At the wery moment I am writing this there is FOUR Obama-Threads on the New-Post list, and three of them are "Obama-bashing", I´m getting sick and tired of this forum with all it´so called enlightened people, I have newer seen so many DUM-ASSES in one place at the same time.

[Dantheman62]

Please delete my thread on the real obama! I don't want it mixed in with the others!, or better yet delete them all! Thanks, peace,dan

[Orion11]

if i delete my account.. will all my posts leave with me? i hope?

prolly not tho huh? lol

[Topper]

The President To Be claims: [3 days ago] I will cut taxes on all families that make $250,000.
The President To Be claims: [last night] I will cut taxes on all families that make $200,000.
TPTB's vice president to be claims: [this morning] TPTB will cut taxes on all families that make $150,000
By the time January 20th, 2009 arrives, When the President To Be stands on the steps of the Capital he will claim:
Bring me Rev. Wright!
Bring me my Koran!
Quickly! Sware me in!
And now that I am your President I demand:
Bring me my burka!
Bring on those belly dancers!
Bring me the bill for the taxing of your 401K!
Bring me the bill for the taxing of your Social Security 12.5%
Bring me the bill for the taxing of your Medicare 2%
Bring me Pelosi so I can sign the baill that raises the taxes on EVERYONE making $42,000
You can't impeach me, ha! ha! ha! He had sex with Monica in the Oval Office and you couldn't impeach him!
Put up the tent that fill the Oval Office!
Fill the Oval Office with pillows and carpets of animal hides!
Bring me Bill Ayres!
Bring me Louis Farakan!
Bring me out of hiding, Osama!
Bring me the Painters, my new home is too Light!
Ha! Ha! Ha! You can't impeach me! You couldn't impeach him, and he had sex with Monica in the Oval Office!
Bring me Tina Fey, I need another laugh!
Bring me my Bong!
Bring me PLO member khalidi!
Bring home the troops, they're fired!
Bring the camels with them, they can graze on the south lawn.
Bring me the L.A. Times, the N.Y. Times the Chicago Trib!
:roll1::mad3::lmfao:
More too come as soon as I check with Hollywood.
Please stand by.

[Orion11]

sweet!
bring it on. cant wait!!!

lame.

[Dantheman62]

:wall:DELETE,DELETE,DELETE,DELETE:wall:

[Seeker Mom]

Don't delete it. People should know more about Obama than the media is willing to tell them.

Obama supporters seem to think anyone who doesn't agree with them are terribly stupid. Let them think what they will. Who knows, maybe we think the same about them. But then again, maybe not. :wink2:

[Providence]

OBAMA IS IN AND MCCAIN IS OUT.


PLAIN




AND





SIMPLE


:roftl:

[Humble Janitor]

Don't delete it. People should know more about Obama than the media is willing to tell them.

Obama supporters seem to think anyone who doesn't agree with them are terribly stupid. Let them think what they will. Who knows, maybe we think the same about them. But then again, maybe not. :wink2:

Obama bashers will post ANYTHING that supports their argument, no matter how poorly it is supported.

There are plenty of political sites that they can manifest. This site should be free of those shenanigans.

[PodWORLD]

It shouldnt be deleted. I find the political bent of the forum one sided but that's a reflection of the election itself. McCain's campaign message seems to be hate the other guy without telling us why we should love him.

I've got no problem with people questioning candidates. I'm sure if anybody cared to check, McCain has been at dinners in Washington with many unsavoury types. I can't imagine any candidate in the present system not being up to their eyes in something.

[sebring1963]

Don't delete it. People should know more about Obama than the media is willing to tell them.

Obama supporters seem to think anyone who doesn't agree with them are terribly stupid. Let them think what they will. Who knows, maybe we think the same about them. But then again, maybe not. :wink2:

sorry SeekerMom its called "critical thinking skills" and requires taking information presented and dissecting the piece to arrive with a greater understanding of the motives and/or objectives of the author or presenter and while simplistic in its notion, it rarely has anything to do with party affiliation.

[fox222]

I live in Louisiana where Ron Paul is on the ballot :original:, so I didn't have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Personally, I could never vote for a pro-war candidate for president - its a question of conscious. That's what your vote is. I think the Senatorial races and House races are much more important this year. I am endorsing two Senatorial candidates. Barkley in MN and Conley in SC. Also hoping Sheehan kicks Pelosi out of the house in san fran. Can I get some feed back?:lmao:

[goody8504]

Not necessarily, they can do what they need to do at anytime.

Interesting how things go aint it?

if this is true, why isn't hillary on the ticket?

[Anticomuna]

I was repulsed by Fox News this morning because they spent most of the morning slagging off Obama.

Are you joking? Fox News is the only news channel I can watch without feeling sick. Check this out: http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6099188

Obama is a liar and the media hides it, there are many questions unanswered and the media dismisses them (like the birth certificate for example). Now look at what they did to Hillary. Look at what they did to Palin, ridiculed her in every way possible.

The Obama-cultists here just follow the script of hate and intolerance. If you disagree with them then you must be silenced, ridiculed, attacked, bullied, etc.

Don't the people here think that this "Obama-mania" fabricated by the media is all too suspicious? Don't you "sense" anything wrong with it? Aren't you all about intuition?

[sebring1963]

Fox News
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428&ei=Ht4LSY6iNJrUqAOEpIyDDg&q=outfoxed&hl=en

[Humble Janitor]

The Obama-cultists here just follow the script of hate and intolerance. If you disagree with them then you must be silenced, ridiculed, attacked, bullied, etc.

You're in a cult of your own..the cult that wishes to silence Barack Obama and that includes your beloved Fox News. Can't you see that as well? You can keep bringing up the birth certificate (that lawsuit was thrown out) and William Ayers until the cows come home but the bottom line is that 8 years of Republican rule have brainwashed YOU (yes, YOU!) into accepting anything other than the Bush doctrine and what Fox News tells you.

Hate and intolerance? Aren't John McCain and Sarah Palin guilty of stirring that up at their rallies to a point where people yell obscenities and make threats at his opponent?


Don't the people here think that this "Obama-mania" fabricated by the media is all too suspicious? Don't you "sense" anything wrong with it? Aren't you all about intuition?

It's more suspicious to me that there are more threads trashing Barack Obama than threads trashing his opponent, who by the sheer lack of such threads, could be considered to be squeaky-clean (which he is FAR from but no one ever talks about HIS connections, do they?). Why no threads on the Keating Five or threads on how McCain supports terror?

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1238618.html McCain donates to Contras in Nicaragua
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html
http://mccainsource.com/mccain_fact_check?id=0007

Why no threads on "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran"?

[Camdoc]

I think this thread is probably about dead, but I just found this link, and wanted to post it somewhere.
It is an analysis (from a left wing site) about Obama's choices of cabinet secretaries.
If he is about change, then why are all of his Secretaries Neocons or Clintonites?
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/107666/this_is_change_20_hawks%2C_clintonites_and_neocons _to_watch_for_in_obama%27s_white_house/

[Northern Boy]

I think this thread is probably about dead, but I just found this link, and wanted to post it somewhere.
It is an analysis (from a left wing site) about Obama's choices of cabinet secretaries.
If he is about change, then why are all of his Secretaries Neocons or Clintonites?
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/107666/this_is_change_20_hawks%2C_clintonites_and_neocons _to_watch_for_in_obama%27s_white_house/

Bingo you are one of the few that see`s what is going on he is just a new face with an old message . I have no quams about him being Pres but when you surround your self with some of the same people who are members of the Council On Foreign Relations ,and the Trilateral commission all of these created by the shadow Government , then you realize that change is the face only and not the message

[Frank Samuel]

The analogy of change is like changing diapers, no matter how many times you change the diapers you always get the same s--t. Not much to choose from. Send in your resume folks maybe will get a new face, or if you prefer a new diaper. Maybe Ron Paul will join the Obama cabinet, then what.
Time to chnga the diapers !!! SOS....:naughty:

[RSF]

I think this thread is probably about dead, but I just found this link, and wanted to post it somewhere.
It is an analysis (from a left wing site) about Obama's choices of cabinet secretaries.
If he is about change, then why are all of his Secretaries Neocons or Clintonites?
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/107666/this_is_change_20_hawks%2C_clintonites_and_neocons _to_watch_for_in_obama%27s_white_house/

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Pretty obvious to me in that sometimes you gotta run. You can't always walk. I mean Pres Elect Obama's going to to need people in the US financial know at the point he takes the reigns away from what's-his-name.
It's a crisis down there now.

RSF

[taadev]

Yes, I agree! An old friend made such a big issue of Clinton lying about a blow job and mumbles about Bush et. al. lying about Sadam and the reasons for sending our kids to die for Operation Iraqi Liber.. er I mean Freedom. Oh, yes, we must not forget the 'Freedom' moniker.

They IRAQIS have been thrilled to have their families bombed and machine gunned into 'democracy'.

How many know we lose more soldiers here in America by their own hands, than all the fatalities in Iraq.

These are the Proud and the Few why are they so disheartened at what they're ordered to do?

[Barron]

Obama is NOT "squeky clean". If anyone is interested in real in depth investigative journalism they should check out this amazing book just recently published on Amazon called Barack H Obama: The Unauthorised Biography by Webster Griffin Tarpley.

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Written by the author of the legendary 1992 expose of Bush the elder, this book works from a New Deal point of view. Obama is exposed as a foundation operative and agent of Wall Street finance capital, controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Soros, and Goldman Sachs. Obama's mother was an official of the Ford Foundation, the World Bank, and US AID. By all indications, Obama was identified for future political use by Brzezinski at Columbia in 1981-1983, during Obama's secret lost years. Obama has worked for the Gamaliel Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund, and the Annenberg Foundation. A community organizer is a poverty pimp, a cynical opportunist who uses suffering people as a political commodity. The foundation strategy is divide and conquer, pitting blacks and against whites against Hispanics against Asians - to prevent any challenge to Wall Street. Racist provocateurs like Wright and Pfleger, along with Weatherman terrorist bombers Ayers and Dohrn - Obama's best friends - are cast in this mold. Rezko, Auchi, and Al-Sammarae represent the cesspool of Chicago graft and corruption in which Obama cavorts. Schooled in Nietzsche and Fanon, Obama qualifies as a postmodern fascist. An Obama administration would strive for brutal economic sacrifice and austerity to finance Wall Street bailouts, and for imperialist confrontation with Russia and China."